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It's been one high aiming month! The French WikiProject and related pages have been aiming high for Christmas - and have received an equal number of presents in return!
Well, that's this issue. Au revoir et à bientôt till the next time, Chris DHDR (18:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC)).
Actually the first two are already inline references, I just listed them separately because I thought they were interesting reading. The third was an external link to the NYPL, so I included all three as external links in a new section. That's enough work for today. It's good enough to avoid deletion, I hope, and as a stub class article. It's really notable, and there are reliable sources. And it will get better as we all work on it, as it does need work (but don't they/we all). — Becksguy ( talk) 09:07, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Templates, not sure how to answer your question. I have nothing to look at to see what the problem is/was.
Basically templates are ways of coding once and including that code in each article the templates is transcluded. The form being used here makes use of another template to formalise the layout of a navigation table for authors works. But then you probably know all that. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 13:39, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
hi, just a friendly request to make others work easier. Could you please add one or more subject to any {{ reqphoto}} you make. Thanks Traveler100 ( talk) 14:49, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
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She's under the weather - or under something anyway - from what I hear. I think Gopher and Isaac are going to have to step in and put something together. Feel like giving me a hand? -- SatyrTN ( talk / contribs) 17:49, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi Zigzig20s! I added two pictures from a recent trip and deleted your request on the talk page. I may continue adding my own pics to articles, but would welcome some feedback first. Regards, gidonb ( talk) 02:07, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Was I supposed to take a photo of someone for you? -- Moni3 ( talk) 15:33, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
WP:AGF, k?
I'm offended by several of your recent actions. First, on Talk:Mabel Dodge Luhan I described exactly what I was thinking and why I'd removed the information. I also asked, right there, that if I was incorrect to please re-add the information. I do make mistakes, and I don't mind being corrected. Histrionics like "if we decide not to include books, then it will be extremely difficult to reference anything at all" do not help make a better encyclopedia.
Which brings me to your post on WT:LGBT. If you have a problem with a change I've made to an article, the article's talk page is the place to discuss it. If you still think I'm incorrect, feel free to bring it to *my* talk page. Making what borders on WP:ATTACKs on WT:LGBT does not help better any article.
You and I (until now) have had a pretty good working relationship. I would have thought you'd feel comfortable asking me why I did something directly rather than trying to make me feel bad by slamming me on the project board. -- SatyrTN ( talk / contribs) 21:40, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi, you recently created a page at Tommy, the Unsentimental which was a copy of A Night at Greenway Court. Next time, there is no need to copy the article. If you wish, you can redirect to the article by placing the syntax #REDIRECT [[A Night at Greenway Court]] in the article. I have taken the liberty of redirecting the article for you. Cheers! Redfarmer ( talk) 11:26, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
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Agreed. I have removed the tag. But the best form of defense in this cases is to demonstrate or argue notability in the article itself. So if you can find and real world material on reception, awards etc and referencing please do add it. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 09:10, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
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Regarding your question, the text I deleted was: " Mazarine Pingeot, former French President François Mitterrand's illegitimate daughter, is a lecturer at the University of Provence Aix-Marseille I." I have no doubt that Mme Pingeot is a graduate teaching fellow at the university, while she works on her doctorate. However, I am sure there are many distinguished faculty at the university, who are known for their contributions to scholarship and learning. To cite her as one of the principal people worthy of note, and essentially because of the "illegitimacy" of her birth to a former president, is to lose a sense of proportion, relevance, and appropriateness. MyPOV ( talk) 01:00, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I noticed that you have edited Anthony Hope. If you are still interested in that article, please have a look at the recent changes I have made. Any additions or clarifications would be most welcome. Thanks! BrainyBabe ( talk) 18:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
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The March 2008 issue of the Novels WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. This is an automated delivery by KevinalewisBot --18:11, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
An election has been proposed and has been set up for this project. Description of the roles etc., can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Coordinators. If you wish to stand, enter your candidacy before the end of March and ask your questions of anyone already standing at Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Coordinators/May 2008. Voting will start on the 1st April and close at the end of April. The intention is for the appointments to last from May - November 2008. For other details check out the pages or ask. KevinalewisBot ( talk) 14:26, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Hey, Hon! Just FYI - years all by themselves (as in "the movie premiered in 1997") don't get wikilinked, as a general rule. Take a look at MOS:DATE for some info on that. Good to see you around! =D -- SatyrTN ( talk / contribs) 15:05, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
I know you are interested in small towns. I recently went home to Colorado, and was invited to talk to my brother-in-laws high school seniors who he teaches, out in Calhan, Colorado. Some kids are very poor and even hunt for their food and lack running water; other kids are preparing to go to Duke University or the Art Institute of Chicago, if they can find the money. Rob, my sister's husband, is like nobody these kids have met. Handsome, smart, thoughtful, artistic and intellectual, he a true renaissance man: he was the Illinois state champion in football, a typical jock meathead who got a football scholarship for Arizona State University. Then he really got into writing and studying poetry, and worked part time at a gym where he met my sister. When I was at the University of Colorado at Boulder he and my sister both moved to Colorado for post-graduate work; my sister went to law school and he pursued his MFA at the Jack Kerouac School of Disembodied Poetics, a program at the only accredited Buddhist college in the US, Naropa Institute, co-founded by Allen Ginsberg. I met Ginsberg one summer and talked to him about NAMBLA while he peed (he asked me to follow him into the bathroom). I didn't know how important he was then, but I knew he was important enough that it was huge news that he was a proud member, and I asked him about it.
Walking the halls I was struck by how familiar that charged high school air felt. Look at the photo on the secondary education article. I was surprised how comfortable I felt with kids who epitomize God's country (and whose school IP was only used for vandalism, which was funny. Rob, who the kids respect immensely, is openly liberal and defiantly artistic. He told me he once argued passionately with his class after they said the biggest problems facing the country are illegal immigration and gay marriage. He actually told them it's astonishing they focus on what are perhaps the two issues that least affect their well-being. They were super friendly and fascinated at how things work on here. I had no ability to impress them with names: I was unable to conceal my shock that none of them had heard of Martin Scorsese. Rob later told me I was a huge hit, and that some of the kids who talked to me afterwards had been some of his most difficult to reach. Here are some of the pages:
Perhaps more background than you wanted, but I thought you'd like the backstory to the photos; if not, hopefully you skimmed. Write back on MySpace. --David Shankbone 01:49, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
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I changed the link because the article exists as Neighbour Rosicky; nothing exists under the title Neighbor Rosicky. I'm not sure why, but every literature book and anthology in which I have referenced this story has spelled it according to British English. Maybe a move is necessary regarding the article; it's probably a good discussion to be made. Ashleyy osaurus ( talk) 03:32, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
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Although I am not particularly keen on getting involved in an edit war with you, be aware that you haven't justified what you have done with the Bieber article. I am likely to keep on removing that passage at intervals. It would become acceptable only if you were to specify by whom the Bieber study has been disavowed, a fact that readers of that article are entitled to know. Can't you be bothered supplying it? Skoojal ( talk) 06:20, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Tasmania a problem? The Tasmania project is basically on hold with probably a minus amount of editors actually working on the project at any one time - there are many stubs that wouldnt pass general WP V, WPN and WP V standards if some malicious ed turned up, and you do that? wheres your agf? you live in iceland or something? Please do not repeat that unless there is some consistency - I hope you do the same for the african or argentinian projects as well perhaps - maybe the monty python project needs it as well ? Satu Suro 23:58, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
No big deal in the end - my bad - just ignore me - one of the admins on tas project has corrected my response - no big deal - apologies if i seemed a little critical
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Suro
But to do every bloody article - you may realise that some of those arts you have tagged it is literally an impossibility of getting a photo
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Suro 23:55, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
In 80 years some of the islands you have tagged may have had 10 photos take in in 1934 or something with no one else bothering - to do such a blanket tagging of the tasmania project is odd - i repeat my message from yesterday I hope you do the same for patagonia or africa or something otherwise it seems very irregular - we have very few editors even less mobile eds who even have photos - and frankly I thing you have wasted your time on at least half the tags Satu Suro 00:09, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Apologies - I am not saying you did something 'wrong' its just the preponderence of geographically challenged eds do leave one thinking about some materials on wikipedia - however for your effort - thanks for doing it - even despite what I have said - cheers Satu Suro 00:53, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
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you can expand the article using google books preview as seen here: Contemporary Black Men's Fiction and Drama, The Queer Renaissance Critical Essays: Gay and Lesbian Writers of Color and Contemporary African American novelists. just be sure to cite each of the books with {{Cite book | author= | authorlink= | coauthors= | title= | date= | publisher= | location= | isbn= | pages=}} The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 23:40, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi I see you've been adding a 'ProjectFrance' banner to communes in the Pas-de-Calais (and a photo request too) I've been updating P-de-C communes and using the 'ProjectFrenchcommunes' banner :
{{WikiProject French communes|class=NA|importance=NA}}
Would you prefer me to add the communes one or would it be better to leave yours? (or for you to use the other ?) Dickie ( talk) 08:48, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Once again like tasmania - I m going to see my watch list again with your tag splatter through it - some of the articles again are technically unphotographble - expect to get a complain again - are you resident of london or something? it would make sense if a local who knows where the tag is nothing but absurd did it Satu Suro 23:56, 20 June 2008 (UTC) I beg to differ - you were tagging islands that are unreachable in wilderness areas in tasmania - please do not try lakes under any circumstance in western australia most of them are dry - and some supposed hamlets - no such things exist in ausralia you should really leave it to locals work that out Satu Suro 00:03, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
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who requested a photo from Picuris Pueblo. Most of the Pueblos around here require a camera permit of some sort to take pictures on the pueblo and they usually cost about $20. I have a checkered past posting pictures on wikipedia, many dozens of my pictures of sculpture have been declaired copyright violations and have been removed by other editors and myself. However, if you send me $20 I will get some pictures of the Pueblo or return your $$$$$. The "Ask and you shall receive" of the Bible also works as "Give and you shall receive." Einar aka Carptrash ( talk) 23:51, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Most NM pueblos have felt (this is my explaination - others might put it differently) exploited by (mostly Anglo) artists for about 100 years now and the camera permit is one way that they have chosen to deal with it. One picture of mine that has managed to survive here is of the statue of Popé taken at the former San Juan Pueblo, now Okay Owinge (but probably spelled differently). That cost me $20, a $15 camera fee and $5 because they did not have change for my twenty. I not too long ago went to a dance a Picuris, but did not take pictures because i am broke and that was not a priority. Life is supposed to be interesting and pretty much always is. Einar aka Carptrash ( talk) 00:07, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Zigzig20s! I had a look at your contributions and I noticed an awful lot of them are reqphoto tag additions. I wanted to ask why you do this (I'm rather new to wikipedia) and if it wouldn't be more efficient to program a bot for a similar task or propose a general wikipedia directive. Thanks for your help! P.S. Feel free to answer here as I have not yet created a wikipedia account (can't decide on the username :-)). 86.217.166.29 ( talk) 11:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
I've replied to your message on my talk page. Thanks for your concern. Brianreading ( talk) 17:58, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
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Zigzig20s, I have undone your edit to Conversion therapy; nothing is accomplished by adding links to articles that do not exist. Skoojal ( talk) 11:43, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Next month we will begin the coordinator election selection process. We hope to have more involvement and input this time around! More news will be forthcoming. Thanks, everyone! María ( habla con migo) 14:13, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
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Hi, there was nothing in the article that made that clear, it certainly looked a little "bullet pointy". If these are clear sections that should be referenced, then do so. However it might be better to just embolden them rather than use them as "very" short sub-headings. All in all the article is very short and could do with much expansion. Particularly in out of universe content and referencing. Anyway thanks for your contributions. Collaborative editing is always a tricky business. Regards :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 19:52, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Sure...I'll have to do it around 19:00 on Sept 25, cause I'm tipsy and headed to bed...just give me the reason u think it should be deleted...just not notable? I'll take care of it at that time tomorrow :) Ctjf83 Talk 03:36, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
You're welcome. I added the Journal of Bisexuality article, complete with a sample cover, as well. Now if only they were more affordable for those without institutional access (and many libraries and departments don't have them either, actually). Evolauxia ( talk) 04:36, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
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Hi! I note that you have an objection to my proposal to merge the tributaries of this river into one article. I would be interested to hear your reasoning, since I have given you mine Peter Shearan ( talk) 06:02, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the improvements you made to the article on Valérie Lemercier - like yourself, I have been meaning to create the article for a while! I'm going to dig out some references next, I'll see what I can find Thanks for your advice. Tpacw ( talk) 23:20, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
In this edit, you removed any mention of it being illegal to die in Le Lavandou, France. In your edit summary, you called it a "preposterous claim" and the reference "bogus". It is true that the reference submitted did not meet WP:RS; it is also true that the material you removed contained no explanation of how such a "preposterous" situation had come about. But it took me less than a minute with Google to verify that yes, indeed, a 2000 bylaw made it illegal to die in Le Lavandou, and while the law itself was absurd, the reason for passing the law (i.e., to draw attention to a problem with cemetery space) was in fact quite logical.
Please don't be so quick to assume that something which seems "preposterous" to you is untrue. -- 65.78.13.238 ( talk) 16:02, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Hello! While I wasn't signed in (and under the IP 138.16.72.11), I made some additions to this article, which you then moved to the "Literary significance and criticism" section. I believe that my additions belong in the lead of the article, for this reason: they cover several notable aspects of Oates's book, from its real-life inspiration to its critical reception to eventual adaptation into an opera. Aside from its critical reception, none of these facets of the novella belong under the heading "Literary significance and criticism", and none of the facets are detailed enough at this point to merit individual subsections. They're basically a summary of what is notable about Black Water, which (to me) would seem to make the lead an ideal location for them. May I move them back? I'll admit I don't know a lot about wpnovels guidelines; is there something I've missed? - Hobbesy3 ( talk) 23:15, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Black Water is a 1992 novella by Joyce Carol Oates. The novella centers around a car accident involving a young female writer and a United States Senator, a story that has parallels with the 1969 Chappaquiddick incident. Black Water was nominated for several awards and has appeared on lists of Oates's best books. Oates adapted the novella into an opera in 1997.
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Why doesn't "Post-Modernist and a Founding Father of Modern Gay Literature" make sense? I'll have to look up my sources to cite it, but I think I remember that being applied to him, or maybe it was to the whole The Violet Quill club of writers, among others. Post-Stonewall gay literature really was different from before Stonewall. Although Postmodernism, or PoMo, is misapplied overly, and means different things to different people, I think. Regards — Becksguy ( talk) 14:03, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
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It's been one high aiming month! The French WikiProject and related pages have been aiming high for Christmas - and have received an equal number of presents in return!
Well, that's this issue. Au revoir et à bientôt till the next time, Chris DHDR (18:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC)).
Actually the first two are already inline references, I just listed them separately because I thought they were interesting reading. The third was an external link to the NYPL, so I included all three as external links in a new section. That's enough work for today. It's good enough to avoid deletion, I hope, and as a stub class article. It's really notable, and there are reliable sources. And it will get better as we all work on it, as it does need work (but don't they/we all). — Becksguy ( talk) 09:07, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Templates, not sure how to answer your question. I have nothing to look at to see what the problem is/was.
Basically templates are ways of coding once and including that code in each article the templates is transcluded. The form being used here makes use of another template to formalise the layout of a navigation table for authors works. But then you probably know all that. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 13:39, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
hi, just a friendly request to make others work easier. Could you please add one or more subject to any {{ reqphoto}} you make. Thanks Traveler100 ( talk) 14:49, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
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She's under the weather - or under something anyway - from what I hear. I think Gopher and Isaac are going to have to step in and put something together. Feel like giving me a hand? -- SatyrTN ( talk / contribs) 17:49, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi Zigzig20s! I added two pictures from a recent trip and deleted your request on the talk page. I may continue adding my own pics to articles, but would welcome some feedback first. Regards, gidonb ( talk) 02:07, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Was I supposed to take a photo of someone for you? -- Moni3 ( talk) 15:33, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
WP:AGF, k?
I'm offended by several of your recent actions. First, on Talk:Mabel Dodge Luhan I described exactly what I was thinking and why I'd removed the information. I also asked, right there, that if I was incorrect to please re-add the information. I do make mistakes, and I don't mind being corrected. Histrionics like "if we decide not to include books, then it will be extremely difficult to reference anything at all" do not help make a better encyclopedia.
Which brings me to your post on WT:LGBT. If you have a problem with a change I've made to an article, the article's talk page is the place to discuss it. If you still think I'm incorrect, feel free to bring it to *my* talk page. Making what borders on WP:ATTACKs on WT:LGBT does not help better any article.
You and I (until now) have had a pretty good working relationship. I would have thought you'd feel comfortable asking me why I did something directly rather than trying to make me feel bad by slamming me on the project board. -- SatyrTN ( talk / contribs) 21:40, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi, you recently created a page at Tommy, the Unsentimental which was a copy of A Night at Greenway Court. Next time, there is no need to copy the article. If you wish, you can redirect to the article by placing the syntax #REDIRECT [[A Night at Greenway Court]] in the article. I have taken the liberty of redirecting the article for you. Cheers! Redfarmer ( talk) 11:26, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
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Agreed. I have removed the tag. But the best form of defense in this cases is to demonstrate or argue notability in the article itself. So if you can find and real world material on reception, awards etc and referencing please do add it. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 09:10, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
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Regarding your question, the text I deleted was: " Mazarine Pingeot, former French President François Mitterrand's illegitimate daughter, is a lecturer at the University of Provence Aix-Marseille I." I have no doubt that Mme Pingeot is a graduate teaching fellow at the university, while she works on her doctorate. However, I am sure there are many distinguished faculty at the university, who are known for their contributions to scholarship and learning. To cite her as one of the principal people worthy of note, and essentially because of the "illegitimacy" of her birth to a former president, is to lose a sense of proportion, relevance, and appropriateness. MyPOV ( talk) 01:00, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I noticed that you have edited Anthony Hope. If you are still interested in that article, please have a look at the recent changes I have made. Any additions or clarifications would be most welcome. Thanks! BrainyBabe ( talk) 18:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
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An election has been proposed and has been set up for this project. Description of the roles etc., can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Coordinators. If you wish to stand, enter your candidacy before the end of March and ask your questions of anyone already standing at Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Coordinators/May 2008. Voting will start on the 1st April and close at the end of April. The intention is for the appointments to last from May - November 2008. For other details check out the pages or ask. KevinalewisBot ( talk) 14:26, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Hey, Hon! Just FYI - years all by themselves (as in "the movie premiered in 1997") don't get wikilinked, as a general rule. Take a look at MOS:DATE for some info on that. Good to see you around! =D -- SatyrTN ( talk / contribs) 15:05, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
I know you are interested in small towns. I recently went home to Colorado, and was invited to talk to my brother-in-laws high school seniors who he teaches, out in Calhan, Colorado. Some kids are very poor and even hunt for their food and lack running water; other kids are preparing to go to Duke University or the Art Institute of Chicago, if they can find the money. Rob, my sister's husband, is like nobody these kids have met. Handsome, smart, thoughtful, artistic and intellectual, he a true renaissance man: he was the Illinois state champion in football, a typical jock meathead who got a football scholarship for Arizona State University. Then he really got into writing and studying poetry, and worked part time at a gym where he met my sister. When I was at the University of Colorado at Boulder he and my sister both moved to Colorado for post-graduate work; my sister went to law school and he pursued his MFA at the Jack Kerouac School of Disembodied Poetics, a program at the only accredited Buddhist college in the US, Naropa Institute, co-founded by Allen Ginsberg. I met Ginsberg one summer and talked to him about NAMBLA while he peed (he asked me to follow him into the bathroom). I didn't know how important he was then, but I knew he was important enough that it was huge news that he was a proud member, and I asked him about it.
Walking the halls I was struck by how familiar that charged high school air felt. Look at the photo on the secondary education article. I was surprised how comfortable I felt with kids who epitomize God's country (and whose school IP was only used for vandalism, which was funny. Rob, who the kids respect immensely, is openly liberal and defiantly artistic. He told me he once argued passionately with his class after they said the biggest problems facing the country are illegal immigration and gay marriage. He actually told them it's astonishing they focus on what are perhaps the two issues that least affect their well-being. They were super friendly and fascinated at how things work on here. I had no ability to impress them with names: I was unable to conceal my shock that none of them had heard of Martin Scorsese. Rob later told me I was a huge hit, and that some of the kids who talked to me afterwards had been some of his most difficult to reach. Here are some of the pages:
Perhaps more background than you wanted, but I thought you'd like the backstory to the photos; if not, hopefully you skimmed. Write back on MySpace. --David Shankbone 01:49, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
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I changed the link because the article exists as Neighbour Rosicky; nothing exists under the title Neighbor Rosicky. I'm not sure why, but every literature book and anthology in which I have referenced this story has spelled it according to British English. Maybe a move is necessary regarding the article; it's probably a good discussion to be made. Ashleyy osaurus ( talk) 03:32, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
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Although I am not particularly keen on getting involved in an edit war with you, be aware that you haven't justified what you have done with the Bieber article. I am likely to keep on removing that passage at intervals. It would become acceptable only if you were to specify by whom the Bieber study has been disavowed, a fact that readers of that article are entitled to know. Can't you be bothered supplying it? Skoojal ( talk) 06:20, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Tasmania a problem? The Tasmania project is basically on hold with probably a minus amount of editors actually working on the project at any one time - there are many stubs that wouldnt pass general WP V, WPN and WP V standards if some malicious ed turned up, and you do that? wheres your agf? you live in iceland or something? Please do not repeat that unless there is some consistency - I hope you do the same for the african or argentinian projects as well perhaps - maybe the monty python project needs it as well ? Satu Suro 23:58, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
No big deal in the end - my bad - just ignore me - one of the admins on tas project has corrected my response - no big deal - apologies if i seemed a little critical
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But to do every bloody article - you may realise that some of those arts you have tagged it is literally an impossibility of getting a photo
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Suro 23:55, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
In 80 years some of the islands you have tagged may have had 10 photos take in in 1934 or something with no one else bothering - to do such a blanket tagging of the tasmania project is odd - i repeat my message from yesterday I hope you do the same for patagonia or africa or something otherwise it seems very irregular - we have very few editors even less mobile eds who even have photos - and frankly I thing you have wasted your time on at least half the tags Satu Suro 00:09, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Apologies - I am not saying you did something 'wrong' its just the preponderence of geographically challenged eds do leave one thinking about some materials on wikipedia - however for your effort - thanks for doing it - even despite what I have said - cheers Satu Suro 00:53, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
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you can expand the article using google books preview as seen here: Contemporary Black Men's Fiction and Drama, The Queer Renaissance Critical Essays: Gay and Lesbian Writers of Color and Contemporary African American novelists. just be sure to cite each of the books with {{Cite book | author= | authorlink= | coauthors= | title= | date= | publisher= | location= | isbn= | pages=}} The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 23:40, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi I see you've been adding a 'ProjectFrance' banner to communes in the Pas-de-Calais (and a photo request too) I've been updating P-de-C communes and using the 'ProjectFrenchcommunes' banner :
{{WikiProject French communes|class=NA|importance=NA}}
Would you prefer me to add the communes one or would it be better to leave yours? (or for you to use the other ?) Dickie ( talk) 08:48, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Once again like tasmania - I m going to see my watch list again with your tag splatter through it - some of the articles again are technically unphotographble - expect to get a complain again - are you resident of london or something? it would make sense if a local who knows where the tag is nothing but absurd did it Satu Suro 23:56, 20 June 2008 (UTC) I beg to differ - you were tagging islands that are unreachable in wilderness areas in tasmania - please do not try lakes under any circumstance in western australia most of them are dry - and some supposed hamlets - no such things exist in ausralia you should really leave it to locals work that out Satu Suro 00:03, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
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who requested a photo from Picuris Pueblo. Most of the Pueblos around here require a camera permit of some sort to take pictures on the pueblo and they usually cost about $20. I have a checkered past posting pictures on wikipedia, many dozens of my pictures of sculpture have been declaired copyright violations and have been removed by other editors and myself. However, if you send me $20 I will get some pictures of the Pueblo or return your $$$$$. The "Ask and you shall receive" of the Bible also works as "Give and you shall receive." Einar aka Carptrash ( talk) 23:51, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Most NM pueblos have felt (this is my explaination - others might put it differently) exploited by (mostly Anglo) artists for about 100 years now and the camera permit is one way that they have chosen to deal with it. One picture of mine that has managed to survive here is of the statue of Popé taken at the former San Juan Pueblo, now Okay Owinge (but probably spelled differently). That cost me $20, a $15 camera fee and $5 because they did not have change for my twenty. I not too long ago went to a dance a Picuris, but did not take pictures because i am broke and that was not a priority. Life is supposed to be interesting and pretty much always is. Einar aka Carptrash ( talk) 00:07, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Zigzig20s! I had a look at your contributions and I noticed an awful lot of them are reqphoto tag additions. I wanted to ask why you do this (I'm rather new to wikipedia) and if it wouldn't be more efficient to program a bot for a similar task or propose a general wikipedia directive. Thanks for your help! P.S. Feel free to answer here as I have not yet created a wikipedia account (can't decide on the username :-)). 86.217.166.29 ( talk) 11:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
I've replied to your message on my talk page. Thanks for your concern. Brianreading ( talk) 17:58, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
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Zigzig20s, I have undone your edit to Conversion therapy; nothing is accomplished by adding links to articles that do not exist. Skoojal ( talk) 11:43, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Next month we will begin the coordinator election selection process. We hope to have more involvement and input this time around! More news will be forthcoming. Thanks, everyone! María ( habla con migo) 14:13, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
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Hi, there was nothing in the article that made that clear, it certainly looked a little "bullet pointy". If these are clear sections that should be referenced, then do so. However it might be better to just embolden them rather than use them as "very" short sub-headings. All in all the article is very short and could do with much expansion. Particularly in out of universe content and referencing. Anyway thanks for your contributions. Collaborative editing is always a tricky business. Regards :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 19:52, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Sure...I'll have to do it around 19:00 on Sept 25, cause I'm tipsy and headed to bed...just give me the reason u think it should be deleted...just not notable? I'll take care of it at that time tomorrow :) Ctjf83 Talk 03:36, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
You're welcome. I added the Journal of Bisexuality article, complete with a sample cover, as well. Now if only they were more affordable for those without institutional access (and many libraries and departments don't have them either, actually). Evolauxia ( talk) 04:36, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
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Hi! I note that you have an objection to my proposal to merge the tributaries of this river into one article. I would be interested to hear your reasoning, since I have given you mine Peter Shearan ( talk) 06:02, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the improvements you made to the article on Valérie Lemercier - like yourself, I have been meaning to create the article for a while! I'm going to dig out some references next, I'll see what I can find Thanks for your advice. Tpacw ( talk) 23:20, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
In this edit, you removed any mention of it being illegal to die in Le Lavandou, France. In your edit summary, you called it a "preposterous claim" and the reference "bogus". It is true that the reference submitted did not meet WP:RS; it is also true that the material you removed contained no explanation of how such a "preposterous" situation had come about. But it took me less than a minute with Google to verify that yes, indeed, a 2000 bylaw made it illegal to die in Le Lavandou, and while the law itself was absurd, the reason for passing the law (i.e., to draw attention to a problem with cemetery space) was in fact quite logical.
Please don't be so quick to assume that something which seems "preposterous" to you is untrue. -- 65.78.13.238 ( talk) 16:02, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Hello! While I wasn't signed in (and under the IP 138.16.72.11), I made some additions to this article, which you then moved to the "Literary significance and criticism" section. I believe that my additions belong in the lead of the article, for this reason: they cover several notable aspects of Oates's book, from its real-life inspiration to its critical reception to eventual adaptation into an opera. Aside from its critical reception, none of these facets of the novella belong under the heading "Literary significance and criticism", and none of the facets are detailed enough at this point to merit individual subsections. They're basically a summary of what is notable about Black Water, which (to me) would seem to make the lead an ideal location for them. May I move them back? I'll admit I don't know a lot about wpnovels guidelines; is there something I've missed? - Hobbesy3 ( talk) 23:15, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Black Water is a 1992 novella by Joyce Carol Oates. The novella centers around a car accident involving a young female writer and a United States Senator, a story that has parallels with the 1969 Chappaquiddick incident. Black Water was nominated for several awards and has appeared on lists of Oates's best books. Oates adapted the novella into an opera in 1997.
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Why doesn't "Post-Modernist and a Founding Father of Modern Gay Literature" make sense? I'll have to look up my sources to cite it, but I think I remember that being applied to him, or maybe it was to the whole The Violet Quill club of writers, among others. Post-Stonewall gay literature really was different from before Stonewall. Although Postmodernism, or PoMo, is misapplied overly, and means different things to different people, I think. Regards — Becksguy ( talk) 14:03, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
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