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Hi Tony could you please help start the article for ACPA (the Aboriginal Centre for the Performing Arts? It is the biggest indiginous arts enterprise in Australia and they do full on Opera, Ballet, Pop etc. It gets about 2M funding a year but needs more exposure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asdak waa ( talk • contribs) 02:11, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
I see a fuss being made about the passage of this bill through the US House of Representatives. I appears to invade online privacy. To what extent should we be concerned about it? Tony (talk) 02:19, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi Tony, just to let you know this edit introduced some errors to the FC Zbrojovka Brno article, particularly the managers section and changing "2007–Nov 08" to "2007 – Nov 8", when the "Nov 08" actually refers to 2008. I don't know if anything can be done about this in terms of the script, but in this instance I have manually corrected the data. Thanks, C 679 09:27, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
Christian75 ( talk) 20:35, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi Tony1 - when you ran the script in this edit, it incorrectly changed an infobox template parameter. Could you please let Ohconfucius know which script you ran so he can fix the script? Thanks! GoingBatty ( talk) 21:38, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi, you had a problem with the epithet? I don't understand. And if it's to be removed (I don't think it should), the "the" has to go with it. Tony (talk) 12:43, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
WP:RY have you even read it before making 100 million changes to the world article???
"& N D A S H ;" is part of the world articles - voted on my numerous admin editors and yet you send out your bot to endlessly destroy the world articles
do you have any idea how much trouble you are causing???-- 68.231.15.56 ( talk) 14:38, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
go here WP:RY#Format
now attempt to edit that section and and in the edit window look at the text for dates
it is all " & N D A S H ; "-- 68.231.15.56 ( talk) 14:50, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
further all the dates are linked because these articles are calanders
they are intrinsically date oriented and exempt from date linking prohabition
yet you remove the date linking from the world articles endlessly
if you have a problem with the agreed upon method then try and gain consensus and change WP:RY - But until you get consensus there you are just an endless vandal-- 68.231.15.56 ( talk) 14:55, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
-- 68.231.15.56 ( talk) 15:14, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
i like how you are dismissive even thou you are flat out wrong i will quote an admin about date linking -
"On the contrary, you are the one violating the guidelines. Although there is an error is
WP:LINKING and
MOS:UNLINKDATES, the RfC changing the guideline specifically exempts "timeline" articles "intrinsically chronological articles", such as this one. It is hence left to the local consensus on this article, which has been against unlinking for some time. If you can establish consensus for unlinking on this article, go ahead and unlink. —
Arthur Rubin
(talk) 06:59, 26 November 2011 (UTC)"
-- 68.231.15.56 ( talk) 15:28, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
If you're talking about the enormous wordcount of my edit to your advice page, then take a deep breath and relax: Your article is still there-- all of its message, all of its ideas, all of its meaning. My edit's wordcount is enormous because I timed out while writing it, and instead of hunting down all my individual edits, I copied everything in the edit box to my clipboard, opened your page, clicked "Edit," selected everything in the edit box, pasted the text that I'd copied from my clipboard over it-- at least, I intended as much. The prose should be 'tighter,' and I hope that you like what I've done. Of course, your article could still be there, and my edits could have been utterly useless. For that misjudgment, I apologize, and humbly ask to know of my errors in greater detail.
-Duxwing — Preceding unsigned comment added by Duxwing ( talk • contribs) 17:56, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
Great! I'll wait for your 'buzz'. Duxwing (talk) 02:43, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for taking an interest. Without coming over all Uriah Heep I am just a humble content guy trying to improve the coverage of my area of interest. I wonder if the policy of not linking obviously understood terms might be vulnerable to cultural bias. Do we assume that everyone using WP is an educated, intelligent anglophone? Maybe. I also wonder about what might be termed "Temporal bias", by which I mean that the things that seem self-evident now might appear less so in the future. You see, I am rather idealistic about this project and expect it to be around, in one form or another, for a long time.
To be more specific, terms like Great Britain and United Kingdom have meant different things at different times. Would a link be acceptable if it helped to differentiate between these? Tigerboy1966 14:39, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Above all, it's suspected by a lot of editors that readers don't really use the internal linking system as much as we think they might; so I like to focus them on fewer rather than more, to use our skills as editors to show them what the most important knowledge-tracks are. Good linking practice, I think, is under-recognised as a new art we hardly knew about 10 years ago. It can make all the difference. I'm still learning more about its potential! Tony (talk) 14:55, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
And I notice you've raised an important dimension in the temporal aspect. Yes, iPad will eventually not be linked much at all; but there was a time when you'd have linked its first occurrence in every article. Like updating events and bios, linking can be tweaked as part of maintenance: items move into and out of appropriate linking over time. So much more interesting than paper publishing. Tony (talk) 15:03, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Now here's an intriguing one, see Paul S. Walsh which is at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Paul S. Walsh/archive1. I am pondering how easy/difficult it is to make/ensure it is neutral and encyclopedic in tone.... Casliber ( talk · contribs) 20:55, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi there TONY, AL from Portugal "here",
thanks for your kind words. Yes i completely understand your approach, but here's my two cents: everybody knows what a cigarette is in English i believe, ages 9-99, but if you wikilink that, people may be "tempted" to read that article and "cultivate" themselves more on that subject, instead of just reading about their footballer (field where i edit 99,99999% of the time) of choice at a given time.
I totally understand the approach of overlinking where you link (example) FC Barcelona once then can't do it again in article, but i am at a total loss with this other overlinking bit.
Keep up the great work, i'll "wiki-see" you around -- AL ( talk) 14:50, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
Did you want to add a closing ' to make "Oppose" bold at Talk:Loomis, Okanogan County, Washington? Apteva ( talk) 02:29, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks very much for your comments about Freedom for the Thought That We Hate at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Freedom for the Thought That We Hate/archive1.
I've done my best to address these comments, and responded at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Freedom for the Thought That We Hate/archive1.
As I stated at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Freedom for the Thought That We Hate/archive1, these were quite helpful comments and I think the article now looks much better after I went ahead and implemented all of them.
Thanks again,
— Cirt ( talk) 15:20, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
I have just partly reverted this edit of yours to Joseph Diaz Gergonne - among other alterations, you had altered a piped link to Nancy, France to an unpiped link to Nancy. Unfortunately, Nancy, France was the correct target and Nancy is a disambiguation page, so I have changed just this back. PWilkinson ( talk) 17:23, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks very much for all of your help with successfully getting Freedom for the Thought That We Hate to Featured Article quality. I really appreciate the assistance in getting this article about freedom of speech to FA. — Cirt ( talk) 23:33, 8 May 2013 (UTC) |
<red face> Thank you, Cirt. I normally try to keep some distance, though, since I made critical comments at the FAC page. I look forward to your continued work on US legal topics—it might be a model for writers in other jurisdictions, which are rather poorly served in some cases. Tony (talk) 04:26, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Hey Tony. I have a quick question regarding something stylistic. When referring to a country's government as an entity mid-sentence, should one write "Government of [country name]" (capitalized G) or "government of [country name]" (lower-case g)? I've seen both used— sometimes interchangeably—though I'm sure one of them is preferred in professional prose. This is in American English, for what it's worth. Thanks in advance! Auree ★ ★ 20:37, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Diptanshu Talk 15:08, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi! Please express your opinion on the meta:Grants:WM UA/Free Vocal Music concert, as the wiki-concert is planned on May, 15, and we need to know the GAC decision at least a day in advance. Thank you! WMUA Executive Director -- Perohanych ( talk) 21:41, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi Tony. I struck the oppose !vote you added on behalf of Noetica, and gave my reasons there. Just wanted to stop by here and make sure you didn't think it was anything against you. Let me know if you think I handled it poorly. Thanks. Dohn joe ( talk) 19:53, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
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That Signpost article on the WMF board was terrific; concise, thorough, and informative. Keep up the good work! Go Phightins ! 02:03, 25 May 2013 (UTC) |
Hi there TONY,
If you must... -- AL ( talk) 15:59, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
I didn't write that section. I have tweaked it a couple of times. I inserted the bit about the time that the police had been called, which was wrongly placed within the section. I have just removed the offending "the" and the extra comma. Would you check it? If you are a stickler for grammar and clear expression, you might find other necessary changes.
In various places I have simplified sentences into the most basic statements possible, eliminating the "When this happened that happened" stuff. It's hard to get people to write simple facts without trying to construct ideas out of them. The avarage Wikipedian would make a very poor witness!. Amandajm ( talk) 13:28, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Amandajm ( talk) 10:22, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
For your email; responded. – SJ + 17:51, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
At the FAC for Harvey Kurtzman's Jungle Book, Eric Corbett believes that the period of one of the captions should be removed. I know that he knows his stuff, but I can't wrap my head around his explanation; it appears to be a grammatically complete sentence to me, and I thought such captions required a period. Mr Corbett has suggested I ask you for a second opinion or explanation. Would you be willing? Curly Turkey ( gobble) 00:09, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi, might you consider revisiting your !vote here as it has been established that it is a Latin ligature rather than a relic of Old Norse.-- Gilderien Chat| List of good deeds 13:36, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi there, Tony1, I hope you're doing well! :)
You previously participated in an FAC for Everything Tastes Better with Bacon.
It's subsequently had additional copy-editing through Guild of Copy Editors and a once-over by FA Writer Tim Riley.
I've nominated it for consideration a 2nd time at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Everything Tastes Better with Bacon/archive2.
Your input would be appreciated, at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Everything Tastes Better with Bacon/archive2.
Thank you for your time, — Cirt ( talk) 19:17, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Hallo Tony, I'm not sure where you have appeared from. In the particular case of changing the dates in the citations to newspapers like The TImes i think the concept is just daft. 'Nuff said? Eddaido ( talk) 14:08, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
Your current round of script-assisted edits, such as [1], are putting a space between a temperature-value and its degrees unit. For example, that edit changed "-78°C" to "−78 °C". MOS is to use a non-breaking space there, "−78 °C", so that the units stay with the value during line-wrapping. DMacks ( talk) 15:14, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
s/(\d)\s*°/\1 °/
[2] converted "oxymercuration-reduction" to "oxymercuration–eduction"--no idea how that happened, and decapitalized the "S" in the book title " Organic Syntheses" (part of a general tendency/overly zealous decapitalizing of "common words" that happen in names and titles [3]?) DMacks ( talk) 12:09, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I asked a question here about most of Meta being in English. What exactly were you counting? Almost all discussions there are in English, but most mainspace pages are in other languages (at least partially). πr2 ( t • c) 02:58, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
This edit changed a hyphen to an endash in a doi=
field. That value is a machine-readable token for a database and has to remain as whatever the
DOI system wants, not something subject to our MOS or other editor-choice stylings.
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talk) 10:16, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
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¡digame!¿que pasa? 11:43, 6 June 2013 (UTC)I have discovered a very successful way of dealing with articles that are causing me to lose sleep: remove them from my watchlist!
Cheers! Amandajm ( talk) 09:54, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi Tony, I left a note for you at the end of this section. If you have time, I'd be quite interested in what you have to say. SlimVirgin (talk) 21:28, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I'm wondering why you deleted the sentence "He is the first child for Angela and partner Simon", from the Angela Pippos article? Not disputing it, just curious. Cheers. Melbourne3163 ( talk) 11:13, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello again, I can see that you are a vastly experienced and professional editor. I try to continually improve my editing knowledge and notice you changed the formatting of "7pm" in the biography section of the Angela Pippos article. Could I ask what the significance is of the revised formatting and is this an automated edit process or a manual one? I would appreciate your comments/advice. Thanks. Melbourne3163 ( talk) 21:25, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
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Do not post on my talk page again.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 01:30, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
Jarry is stepping down from writing the Signpost Tech report. I gave him a Signpost barnstar Will you sign it with me?. Thanks, -- Pine ✉ 06:34, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
About a year ago, you tried to help User:Baboon43 learn the ropes of dealing with editing disputes. One year on, there are still community concerns regarding some incivility and edit warring behavior. There is now a discussion open at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Baboon43 with the goal of helping the user deal with disputes in a new, better way. I'm just informing you in case you would like to observe and comment. MezzoMezzo ( talk) 12:48, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
... reply on my talk, SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 03:22, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
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For your work, and of course, your self help courses in helping me format my sentences in a more encyclopaedic manner. Ugog Nizdast ( talk) 13:47, 29 June 2013 (UTC) |
Hey, sorry I couldn't reply earlier, but I had left the country shortly after your reply [4]. I think this type of communication/public activity is risky currently in my country. Bloggers and Tweeps are targeted by the government, see for instance [5]. For someone writing on political articles, I bet they could sentence me to a year on the vague charge of "misusing the right of free expression". Mohamed CJ (talk) 09:07, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Tony - have you heard of this construction...I often drop "the" in this scenario.... Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 02:29, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
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Hello. Please participate in the current discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Wehwalt ( talk) 09:09, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Per your query "Unsure why this wasn't a legitimate comment in this context." That comment was directed solely about my conduct, and was correctly moved to my user talk page. It has no place whatsoever on the article talk page. See WP:FOC and WP:NPA (both policies). If we remove the parts that are out of place, we have:
Apteva, yes, there are a lot of things you fail to see about wikipedia article naming. Why do you press for such changes, given that your views are so out of step with the how titling work here? How can want to move a title that is just precise enough to say what the article topic is to one that is ridiculously ambiguous? How can you interpret the popularity of this article as an indication that it is named wrong? Your logic makes no sense.
Leaving us with absolutely nothing. We are not to use article talk pages to either berate or praise editors. That is what user talk pages are for. We are not to attack others for their arguments, they are their arguments. We can explain our own arguments, we can disagree with the arguement, but not express it as differing with an individual, and if we have a question about the argument, we ask it of the argument, not the editor, or the group, not the editor. Your use of @Apteva, for example, was completely inappropriate, and never done in a threaded discussion (the only use is for example in WP:AE discussions where threaded discussions are forbidden). Use a diff if you need to to explain what you are referring to, not an editors username, and definitely not the word "you". We need to find a way to get the editor in question to "sit up and act straight", and not be encouraging their personal attacks. It is really not that hard to write sentences that do not include the word "you". Just focus on the topic and not on the editor. Apteva ( talk) 17:15, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
This is not about personal attacks, but is about keeping conversations on topic in order to build consensus. Our advice about using the word you, though, WP:AVOIDYOU, does appear on the NPA page, which points out that "Insulting or disparaging an editor is a personal attack regardless of the manner in which it is done." That boomerang was one of Wikipedia's stupidest ever blocks. Thinking that notifications is a justification for naming an editor is absolutely absurd, and is just plain illogical. No matter how many times someone sees an editor named in a threaded discussion, RfCs, AfDs, they are all totally inappropriate and the practice needs to end. Apteva ( talk) 14:43, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
So the next time anyone gets the urge to thank someone in a threaded discussion, please do it on their talk page instead. The results are infinitely more better. Although I suspect the grammar of that sentence is somewhat lacking. Apteva ( talk) 14:58, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
The trouble is, Apteva, that "keeping conversations on topic to build consensus" seems to mean to build the consensus that you want. This might be why so many editors come away upset after interactions with you (oops, I used the banned word, or is "you" ok on my talk page?). This is especially true of structured environments such as RMs, where you have at times employed fairly aggressive tactics to get your way. "one of Wikipedia's stupidest ever blocks"—in the larger scheme, I'm not sure I agree.
I see that you've again reverted Dicklyon's comment—one that I don't believe is inappropriate. Tony (talk) 15:00, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
Tony, the core issue here seems to be not only a lack of understanding of NPA, but also a faulty AGF-ometer. Like you, I had observed overnight the interaction with Graham87, which concerns me (I had his talk watchlisted after noting the difficulty in reaching him during the arb case I diffed at the ANI, [12] and noting his recurring insistence on unusual sections in medical articles). I will be extremely busy through mid-August, but should things not improve and should an RFC be indicated, please ping me ?? I found some reference somewhere that User:Moonriddengirl had once mentored him, but he removes so many talk page posts that it was difficult to verify that. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 14:56, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your support. Are you able to let me or ANI know what recent other outrages Sandstein has committed? Especially interesting will be examples of his going on the warpath against people who question his judgment as that is the issue I have raised. I know he has a lot of enemies but I haven't been watching his actions closely enough to know which he has made recently and why.-- Peter cohen ( talk) 01:09, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Would you be so kind as to add "as nominator" to your !vote at Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates#RFC on governance of the FA forums? The proponent of anything is assumed to support it without voting separately. Thanks. Apteva ( talk) 03:09, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
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or words to that effect. Apteva ( talk) 03:57, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Let me choose my words carefully. ... No. Tony (talk) 03:59, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi. We're organizing an office hours session with the Teahouse to bring in mentors from across the wiki to try out Snuggle and discuss it's potential to support mentorship broadly. The Snuggle team would appreciate it if you would come and participate in the discussion. We'll be having it in #wikimedia-office connect on Wed. July 17th @ 1600 UTC. See the agenda for more info. -- EpochFail( talk • work), Technical 13 ( talk), TheOriginalSoni ( talk) 19:08, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Isderion is edit warring/ vandalizing my work. Could you help/advise me on this regard? J Kadavoor J e e 06:31, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
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OK, I know that neither your nor The ed17 ( talk · contribs) wrote this, but a) it's not clear who did, perhaps Keilana ( talk · contribs)?; b) it's unfortunate no one copyedited since false impressions were spread simply because of poor writing/grammar; and c) it's typical of what I've come to expect of The Signpost.( see grammar corrections here.) A page which got 1,000 views cast Brianboulton ( talk · contribs) in the role of "quickly devolving into ... " (via an incorrect preposition-- a copyedit matter), and Fuchs and me as edit warriors (via "continued") when neither of us engaged in the edit war that followed our first BRD cycle. Seriously ... 1,000 editors have now read false information about Brian, Fuchs and me ... it is this kind of reporting that has gone on for so long and has put me off of reading The Signpost. If they are going to write something about someone, how about running it by those editors so they can have a chance to see what falsehoods are being spread before they go to print? When I wrote the Dispatches, that's the courtesy I offered. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:11, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
Sandy, I think your comments here are quite disingenuous, and I wish you would drop your inexplicable vendetta against me. I'm sorry my copy wasn't perfect, that's because we were short on time and I chose to take care of a problem at work rather than hunt down a copyeditor to do a rush job. You insinuating that I don't have "basic competency in writing Wikipedia articles" is nasty and unfounded as well, I really don't appreciate your snide comments like that. However, I don't think I misrepresented anything that anyone did, and I certainly didn't do so out of COI or maliciousness. I was obviously not a participant in that discussion and don't have strong feeligs about it. Furthermore, I was unaware that notifications didn't work in Wikipedia space and assumed that people would know I had mentioned them. I would have appreciated a notification of this discussion myself, I just happen to have this page on my watchlist so I could participate. I get that you have concerns, but if you have an issue with something I did, take it to me, don't go to people who weren't involved in writing the piece. Keilana| Parlez ici 15:22, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
( talk page stalker) Notifications work in Wikipedia space. If you're not getting them there must be some other problem — uh, could you have them turned off? Bishonen | talk 09:10, 23 July 2013 (UTC).
Thanks from Myanmar. 203.81.67.123 ( talk) 13:23, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
You deserve more than barns or stars for venturing into indonesian soccer crap, you'll find there is a very large mount of indonesian score board itis idiots who dont have english mucking around in there with over linking, too many flags, and no content - enjoy... sats 08:43, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you, Tony, for the frighteningly large amount of work you do for the Signpost's "News and notes" section. Your efforts are greatly appreciated by both me and the movement as a whole. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 21:46, 23 July 2013 (UTC) |
Hi Tony, Wikivoyage is celebrating its 10th anniversary today by Wikivoyagers all around the world. It would be nice if you mention about it in the next Signpost newsletter.
-- 139.190.159.228 ( talk) 13:44, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi! Whenever you have time, can you please re-visit the FAC for Hyderabad, India? Regards.-- Dwaipayan ( talk) 01:15, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
Sorry to get back to you so late. Thanks for the comments on the FAN page for "X-Cops". I changed what you suggested. How does it look now?-- Gen. Quon (Talk) 00:35, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
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The links are to WMF's own logs. Kiefer .Wolfowitz 13:09, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
OK. Thanks. -- Lemur12 ( talk) 11:06, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
Did you know ... that since you expressed an opinion on the GA/DYK proposal last year, we invite you to contribute to a formal Request for Comment on the matter? Please see the proposal on its subpage here, or on the main DYK talk page. To add the discussion to your watchlist, click this link. Regards, Gilderien Chat| What I've done22:57, 28 July 2013 (UTC) |
Hey Tony, do you know of a script or AWB module that can deal with overlinking? -- John ( talk) 20:31, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello! I don't know if I ever successfully got a hold of you. I was wondering you had seen the changes I'd made to "X-Cops", per your suggestions, and if there was anything else you'd suggest.-- Gen. Quon (Talk) 23:24, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Tony - what was up with this revert? I would have done the same if there were any two-comma-wanting editors who had not re-expressed their opinion in the survey section that was added by dicklyon in the middle of the discussion. How is that not equitable? Dohn joe ( talk) 03:14, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Missing Wikipedians#Noetica (version of
04:22, 6 August 2013) may interest you, and it may interest Noetica, who may be watching this talk page.
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You added Idiom dictionary to Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2013 May 29, but the "source" you listed is a Wikipedia diff. Did you insert the wrong url?-- SPhilbrick (Talk) 19:17, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
As an expert on grammar, do you have any advice for the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (geographic names)/Archives/2013/September#Commas in metro areas? We have kind of an odd situation there, dealing with metropolitan and micropolitan areas in the United States. The census bureau provides data every ten years, and the Office of Management and Budget picks a bunch of areas every so often and defines them either as metropolitan or micropolitan areas, and defines which cities and towns are included in each. For example, Las Vegas has a metropolitan area that they call the Las Vegas-Paradise, NV Metropolitan Statistical Area, and one including Dayton, Ohio, called the Dayton, OH Metropolitan Statistical Area. There are 939 of these, [15] and of these we have a little over 100 articles of the format [[city, state metro/micropolitan area]]. None of these are contained within the named city. Clearly if someone writes the sentence, Dayton, Ohio, is part of a metropolitan area, a comma is needed after the state, but what about the sentence, the Dayton, Ohio Metropolitan Statistical Area includes Dayton, Ohio? Is a comma required between Ohio and Metropolitan? Thanks. Oh, we also have two articles of the format city, state, metro/micropolitan area, but one of those was moved to that title today. Apteva ( talk) 08:20, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi there. I found your userpage by searching through the edit history of the Manual of Style, in the hopes that I could find someone well-versed in journalistic style and naming conventions.
I'm currently involved in a dispute with some other editors over the naming of the " big.LITTLE" article. As far as I can tell, they are all computer-programmer types who know a lot about technical stuff but very little about correct English. The dispute began when in passing, I casually renamed the article from "big.LITTLE" to "Big.little": As it is not an acronym, it seemed like an obvious error. Then a huge debate ensued.
So if you feel like you have the necessary writing education, or whether you know someone who does, I'd be grateful for a professional opinion.
InternetMeme ( talk) 11:47, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi Tony1, much respect for all your work on WP but how about getting rid of your user page on "Monthly updates of styleguide and policy changes"? I typed "WP:Updates" into the search box, a reasonable thing to do I thought that others may well do also, and there it was - not touched since 2008. -- Noyster ( talk) 22:07, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Stalking Gerda Arendt, I noticed your intention to visit Leipzig (which is in Saxony, not Thuringia – where Erfurt, Eisenach, and Weimar are must-see places). I've just been there (during the recent floods) and I stronly recommend you put (at least) 2 days for a visit to Dresden aside – it's much more spectacular than Leipzig (although the 2 Bach churches there & his grave made my hair stand on end). Bon voyage – Gute Reise -- Michael Bednarek ( talk) 14:43, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
Paul MacDermott ( talk) 14:40, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
Since you provided some editing on the article, I was wondering if you might weigh in on the discussion about whether or not to delete it
Doug Turnbull (author} Bides time ( talk) 22:00, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
I noticed that your recent edit was not like your previous ones [16] [17]. Was that from a mouse malfunction? Or perhaps it might be worth testing a concept where certain non-STRONGNAT articles are style-toggled every 3-4 months. Will await your thoughts either way... Dl2000 ( talk) 00:25, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Paul MacDermott ( talk) 14:08, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm curious what consensus you were citing when you made this change. You seemed to think that the example "1492? – 7 April 1556" was inconsistent with the previous wording of the style guide. However, you missed (as I almost did) the hidden-in-plain-sight space after the question mark. Contrarily, the example 1–17 September, would not be possible if your change were made. Marcus Qwertyus ( talk) 07:13, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Worried that I'd have to trout myself, I pulled some old revisions to the article. As it turns out, the Wikipedian who made this edit is the one that invented the word "concertized" :-). My dictionary informs me that it is a real verb, at least in North America, but it means to give a concert. He may have meant "constituted". AGK [•] 13:05, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Tony - I just made a similar post at dicklyon's talkpage (and at the comma debate as well), but I wanted to draw your attention to this authority, too, since I know both of you give great thought to issues of style/grammar. Don't you think that Garner's description/guidance/analysis of using dates as adjectives really hits the mark as to placenames as well? The earlier cites I found were much more oblique. Here, he really comes right out and says that a) most stylists use one comma; b) one comma is grammatically/stylistically more sound (and why); and c) few, if any, guides address the specific issue of date/placename as adjective. Doesn't that cut right to the heart of the debate? Dohn joe ( talk) 21:00, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
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Hey, I went a bunch of times through the article and combed and re-combed it. Sorry for bugging in, but I would really appreciate if you could let me know if you think the article is still below par. Thanks, Nergaal ( talk) 02:32, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
I would of course have to defer to you, the Superior Emperor and Chief Everything Officer of the Galactic Society of Deofbuscation via Reverse Circumlocuation and Antiesquipedalianist Unobscurantism. :-) W Nowicki ( talk) 19:16, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi, Tony. :)
There's a very specific procedure for listing pages at WP:CP, much like at WP:AFD. If you want to list an article for review there, please first tag the article with {{ copyvio}}. It will generate a template for you to place at the copyvio page (and give you a link to show you where to place it) and also give you a template to notify the editor. This notification is really important. Listings at WP:CP are not supposed to be closed until the contributor of the content has had at least a week's notice. If you forget what template to use, all this can be found at Wikipedia:Copyright_problems#Instructions_for_listing_text-based_copyright_concerns. I'm afraid that the instructions at the bottom of the page are messed up because of the backlog. :/
I went ahead and looked at the article you listed, and this one is okay. :) If you look at the link, at the bottom of the article that includes the problematic section, you'll see "Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia © 2001-2006 Wikipedia contributors (Disclaimer) This article is licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License. Last updated on Friday October 10, 2008 at 20:22:45 PDT (GMT -0700) View this article at Wikipedia.org - Edit" Not all content on reference.com is from Wikipedia, but quite a bit of it is.
Thanks for being conscientious about such issues! -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:59, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi, Tony, I was hoping that my efforts to upgrade the Tippett article would inspire your attention. Please keep up the good work as time allows – it will save me a lot of time in the final polishing, when the expansion is complete. I expect the article to keep me busy for several weeks yet. One small point: I see you have added nbsps into the page numbers. I never do this - don't see any point, since the page references don't occur in the text. Please don't feel you need to do this. Regards, Brianboulton ( talk) 10:47, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
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Please consider posting a reply to Dank at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Tony1/Monthly updates of styleguide and policy changes. Thanks! -- Jreferee 06:42, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
What are your thoughts on this closure? GabeMc ( talk| contribs) 20:08, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi Tony, I hope all is well with you.
I wonder if I could ask you about spaced/unspaced en dashes in dates. Is the following correct (all in the same article, in case consistency is an issue)?
That is, no space when two numbers are together; otherwise a space? I feel reasonably sure about 1 and 3, but less sure about 2. SlimVirgin (talk) 16:14, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you so much for the Interference and for trying to settle the issue between users such as between Me and Ohconfucius. Consensus reached in that Article's Talk page Discussion and i'm changing the Date formats to those Indian articles i contribute daily to DMY per Ties, Strong NAT :) Raghusri ( talk) 11:06, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi, Tony, many thanks for your continuing watch and help on Tippett. Just to let you know, I'm more or less done with the biography material, and am working (when I can) on the "music" sections – hard going. Then I'll be doing the lead. Brianboulton ( talk) 09:05, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect 2C-H. Since you had some involvement with the 2C-H redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). —[ AlanM1( talk)]— 21:17, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Please note that this edit broke four interwiki links to Wikisource. Editing within the {{ cite DNB}} template is not appropropriate, and the Wikisource title convention, for the DNB, is hyphen not endash in titles. Charles Matthews ( talk) 09:44, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
Hey, Tony. When you made some script-assisted fixes at Little Nemo today, you changed a bunch of dates in refs from YYYY-MM-DD to MMM D, YYYY, even though WP:DATESNO allows YYYY-MM-DD for refs (in fact, all my FAs passed with YYYY-MM-DD dates in the refs). Also, you changed a "#4" to a "No. 4", even though MOS:POUND makes an exception there for comic books. I assume these are exceptions that aren't written into the script? Curly Turkey ( gobble) 05:11, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
I'm emailng you concerning a WMF issue, because you're in Japan. Tony (talk) 01:38, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi Tony,
I noticed that you have been involved with the John Edward Brownlee articles in the past and I thought that you might be interested in the current featured topic candidacy for these articles. Any constructive comments you would be willing to provide there would be greatly appreciated.
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Tony1, not sure we are simpatico, but would really appreciate if you could peer review/ce Fluorine. It's got a lot of cool layout and content. Your help on the Lead and first major section would help brushup what the reader sees first. Know you can make the words sing. 98.117.75.177 ( talk) 17:41, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello, and thank you for your recent contributions. I appreciate the effort you made for our project, but unfortunately I had to undo your edit(s) because I believe the article was better before you made that change. Feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions. Thank you! Epicgenius( give him tirade • check out damage) 15:55, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello! The reverts I made were for the IPs from Guatemala that was rangeblocked several times for disrupting Wikipedia by linking dates on Latin music albums despite repeated warnings to do so, as well as adding unsourced release dates and singles. It seems I made it seems mistakes with the mass reversion for I apologize for the inconvience. Erick ( talk) 05:52, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
Tony, If you're going to continue to say things like "Toddst1 has a record of bad behaviour not befitting an admin" and "This is certainly not the first time I've seen Toddst1 involved in abusive behaviour" you should be able to show that WP:ADMINABISE has in fact occurred and that your comments are being constructive. If you truly think I'm such a shitty admin, I suggest starting an WP;RFCU/A.
Instead what I see is, whenever my name is mentioned on ANI lately, you come up with these hollow pearls rather than investigating whether I have abused any administrative privileges or what the circumstances in fact are.
In the case with TWC, it is more than clear that while I have been less than diplomatic with this highly and serially confrontational editor, I have not used *any* administrative privileges, which makes it impossible for me to have abused them.
I have made 75,000+ edits on 34,000+ unique pages and made about 24,000 administrative actions. I've made quite a few tough calls and indeed screwed up a few times. Despite a few issues (which everyone has), I have a record of good behavior. If you look at the percentage of my edits with which folks have taken issue, they are infinitesimally small. However small that is, it still leaves room for improvement which I continually aspire to.
However, continuing to make hollow comments like those can be considered personal attacks and with the serial nature over several ANI discussions is starting to look like harassment. Please stop.
Respectfully, Toddst1 ( talk) 14:51, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
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Love your "pet hates" section! I am right there with you. TiMike ( talk) 00:33, 29 October 2013 (UTC) |
That's nice to know!
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I was thinking about the possibility of lending a helping hand with the News and notes section, FYI. Would you have any recommendations about how to start off doing something small? Thanks. Biosthmors ( talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{ U}}) while signing a reply, thx 18:33, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
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The sex tourism article just turned my stomach. But thanks for writing it. Liz Read! Talk! 21:08, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
Hey. I changed the title of your Signpost piece on Wikivoyage because you made an idiom error; however, it was reverted because it's your Signpost piece.
Since you're apparently the only one authorized to make that particular edit, I politely request that you implement it. Thanks. DS ( talk) 12:55, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
I expected screeching and scratching and biting ... it's the cost of doing business if you're going to conduct investigative journalism. The good thing is that people in the Wikimedia movement are taking notice, whatever they think of the story. While you'd hope that the Wikivoyage community itself might take a more constructive view, it appears that the alpha-males are not about to let that happen any time soon.
The thing they really got upset about was my claim that if they continue to sit around doing nothing, the site will fade away given the crowded market for online travel information. I still don't understand why they found that so profoundly unsettling. There's no sense, for example, that someone might go for an IEG grant to perform specific jobs—including programming—that could lead to improvements. I supported the migration, and I still think the site can be made to work well. That they see me as an enemy is their own illusion. Funnily enough, I don't think they realised that I was interacting on the site primarily to cover it for the Signpost. Tony (talk) 10:58, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Given it's been kept at MfD, I've reposted a proposal to tighten it. See header. Cheers, Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 21:47, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
I have opened a new RFC at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style § RFC: Proposed amendment to MOS:COMMA regarding geographical references and dates for further discussion. — sroc 💬 08:24, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
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I'm sure you've much more important concerns, but just so you're aware that the shenanigans continue: https://en.wikivoyage.org/?title=User_talk:Saqib&oldid=2472008#Warning
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"Sir" is gone. - Dank ( push to talk) 02:34, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Tony1, When you revisit Michael Moorcock you need to do so without converting Retrieved date formats to dmy. I covered this two months ago in reply to your inquiry at User talk:P64#Linking, with instructive references. (In the Moorcock edit summary moments ago, I referred by mistake to my User page rather than User talk page.) -- P64 ( talk) 16:33, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
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RE: your statement at the RFAR "There's the potential for editors not to see that alerts are informational, and the fact that an alert will bring one closer to being sanctioned is a risk for misinterpretation."
Yes, indeedy. I was reminded of a statement of Noetica's from over a year ago, commenting on a specific page under article probation, and went back to look it up.
Some of the provisions of one article under sanction: "We actually know when we cross the line; we are all intelligent people" "Don't get worked up when you get subjected to remedies such as a temporary block or ban." "Sanctions imposed may include... any other measures the imposing administrator believes are reasonably necessary to ensure the smooth functioning of the project."
Just peeking at the new draft proposal...while the old procedures have "guidance" sections for both admins and editors, under the new proposal there are "roles" for admins, but "behavioural expectations" for editors. Ah yes, children have behavior, but adults have conduct, which implies a social contract.
Same song, different tune.
And will the new procedures eliminate warnings that identify misconduct, as appears now? If so, what will replace it, secret courts as some have proposed, and lettres de cachet? A previous "speedbanning" proposal has already failed to gain traction. Interesting times. — Neotarf ( talk) 17:36, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (geographic names)#En dash vs. "and" for multi-state metro areas. Herostratus ( talk) 18:21, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
I don't think it's a good idea to de-link infoboxes, or leads for that matter. 1). It's totally against uniformity across music articles 2). Quick reference links for readers is the norm in infoboxes and lead and should remain for readers. Infoboxes and leads can easily be restored after running the script. Mlpearc ( open channel) 13:29, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
Dear Tony,
I checked in Firefox and Chrome in Windows and Linux, I also did not find any thumbnail. The thumbnail of that image
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dadhimadhab_Mandir_-_Amragori_-_Howrah_2013-09-22_2849-2901.TIF was removed by
User:McZusatz. I could not understand why it was done so! What is the benefit to reduce 25 MB space including thumbnail and original color profile and adding again 475 MB space? I did not make it .JPG because almost six times unique color would be lost! The mandir is one of the greatest terracotta architecture in Howrah district, I wanted not to loose any single color from the stitched hi-res photograph. Regards. --
Biswarup Ganguly (
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Apologies, it looks like I accidentally reverted your copyeditting on bruxism? I meant to only take out the recent primary sources from the treatment section, sorry. Lesion ( talk) 14:41, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
Noted this message at the top of your talk page. I understand this sentiment, having seen what kind of admin behavior is permitted on Commons, but I would point out that images which are uploaded to wikipedia and not commons are auto-tagged by a bot for transfer, and then usually get transferred over anyway... I have seen this happen a few times... I didn't think there was any choice but to upload to commons... Lesion ( talk) 14:43, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
Still very much a draft, and I'm aiming for launch after the holidays, in case you want to have a look at the prose:
SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 16:31, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
Happy Holidays | ||
Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and troll-free. Ealdgyth - Talk 23:55, 21 December 2013 (UTC) |
FWiW Bzuk ( talk) 23:36, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Season's greetings from Santa and her little helpers
I wouldn't wanna fuss wif Santa or doze helpers. Tony (talk) 02:46, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
What's a holiday without a funny-tasting chicken? Most flavourful they are soonest after glaring directly into the twinkle of your eye.
Gobble gobble! Curly Turkey ( gobble) 02:41, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Cheers, pina coladas all round! | |
Damn need a few of these after a frenetic year and Xmas. Hope yours is a good one....Cheers, Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 10:03, 25 December 2013 (UTC) |
Thank you Tony for your tips I really appreciate it. Ahmed Mohi El din ( talk) 11:07, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi Tony, just a note to wish you all the best for the New Year. I hope it's a good one for you! Best, SlimVirgin (talk) 16:09, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
I'd like to have more people at FP: That I can do that isn't actually a good thing. If the Signpost wants to take it up, that's great, but I don't want to force it in. Just push others to try harder. Adam Cuerden ( talk) 03:54, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Also, if you do run with it, please, for god's sake, check whether anyone else did similar. Crisco's a possibility. Adam Cuerden ( talk) 03:56, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
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Hi Tony! It's been a long time. I found another word that could be eliminated in one of your redundancy exercises. As always, I would like your opinion. I made the edit already, but please feel free to revert it if you disagree. (The word "should" can be eliminated because it is part of a recommendation, which already implies that something "should" be done). Ke6jjj ( talk) 20:45, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi Tony, and thanks for dropping by on my talk page to give guidance as to what should not be wikilinked. Did you have any particular edit of mine in mind? I seem to spend a lot of my editing time in Category:Dead-end_pages trying to make edits to justify the removal of the "dead end" tag. Most articles present plenty of opportunities for the insertion of really useful wikilinks, but I must admit that there have been a few where I have simply linked a couple of geographical locations in order to justify removing the tag.
I generally try to follow WP:UNDERLINK and WP:OVERLINK. Let me address your bullet points specifically.
I'm sure you've come across frustrating articles which some zealous editor has packed full of totally pointless links to fingers, kilograms, water, moon, child, etc. What it really comes down to is whether my link is going to enrich readers' experience of Wikipedia, save them time, and maybe facilitate a broader exploration of a topic than they might otherwise have undertaken.
Sorry to ramble on so much. It's been fascinating to "meet" you by reading your user page (I share your opinion about Bach, by the way). I'd be interested to know if there was a particular edit of mine that prompted you to visit my talk page. Best regards — Hebrides ( talk) 22:50, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Tony, do you have a list of words that you unlink by script? I'd be interested in a copy so that I can incorporate this step into my routine editing. I currently check automatically the usual internet-published lists of stopwords but would like to do more. Cheers — Hebrides ( talk) 07:31, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
Hello. I have been working on standardizing and providing consistency this page. If you wish to run the script on it that you ran HERE, perhaps you can do so with the date flag OFF as the date format was already correct per MOS's WP:DATE. I have undone your edit to facilitate your re-run. Regards. Mercy11 ( talk) 19:21, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi, and thanks for your notice on my talk page. What did I do wrong? Please leave me a message. Thanks -- Frze > talk 10:04, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi, and thanks for your work on the English Wikipedia. Just a short note to point out that we don’t normally link:
Thanks and my best wishes.
Tony (talk) 08:45, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Tony: Thanks, I guess, but your advice comes as a bit random without a single instance cited, you know what I mean?... Neverthless, noted. -- Aboudaqn ( talk) 16:43, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the note on my talk page! I've only been on Wikipedia since early 2013, so I still have a lot of things to learn. By the way, I was wondering what article I made changes to that prompted your post on my talk page. I have a habit of fixing typos on articles as I read them, meaning that they don't go on my watch list. AmericanLemming ( talk) 20:05, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
(he later corrected this statement to read "paid advocacy editing" rather than editing). - I guess you meant rather than paid editing. Adrian J. Hunter( talk• contribs) 15:53, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Tony1 for the note on my talk page. Can I ask, is your note-leaving on this topic automated? I ask because, as others have said, it would be very helpful if you could list which article(s) I worked on that you thought was/were overlinked. If your messages are sent individually, maybe you could delete those items which don't apply (for example, I never link dates or units of measurement). I also wonder why your list is a bit different from the list in the guideline on overlinking. It's very good to be clear and concise, but your list has at least one different item, which makes it a bit confusing when you look up the topic.
It would be really helpful if in your standard message you could give one or two general examples of country names that should not be linked and the same for those that it is OK to link. I also don't really understand what you mean by "terms you’d look up in a dictionary " so a couple of examples of those that you should and shouldn't link would be extremely usefu in the message l too.
Is there a Wikipedia essay on "smart linking"? if not, would you consider writing one and linking your message to that essay? For some of us long-term editors the idea of smart linking is relatively new, and a good short essay might be be really helpful to us.
Thanks again, Invertzoo ( talk) 16:14, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
I want to thank you for notifying me about overlinking, it made me reconsider what should be wikilinked and see that some links were unnecessary. But I also want to comment on some of your link removals. You have removed several perfectly justifiable wikilinks, such as for (a first occurance of) the word Dutch to the Netherlands which clarifies the word is not referring to Germany (Deutschland in German). Furthermore, linking on Wikipedia is not merely about the definition of words, since it is an encyclopedia and not a dictionary. Of course not every first occurrence of words such as museum or writer needs to be linked, but when someone links the word writer in the opening sentence of an article, he or she is referring the reader to the article with more information about this profession. We don't need to agree on every single link, but I hope you will leave a bit more room for personal preference when it comes to wikilinking. – Editør ( talk) 11:57, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi Tony, I appreciate your effort on the Open access article, but a discussion about hyphenation has happened before (more than once!) and it settled on not using it. See also Talk:Open_access_journal#Hyphen_or_not. - Lawsonstu ( talk) 15:07, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks Tony1 for your comment on my talk page about overlinking on the article (
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Cascavel&diff=next&oldid=586154280). I see what you're saying about overlinking to dates. I had been translating the document from the Brazilian Portuguese version to English and simply copied the original article's linking pattern. It seems they may have different standards on the Portuguese version. So in the future when I translate over a document from PT-->EN, I'll strip out those extraneous links. Cheers!
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Thank you for helping me avoid linking years etc. They often wikilink them on the French Wikipedia and I'm used to it from other wikis too so I've to learn new ways here:) Best regards xx Cogiati ( talk) 08:17, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
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Reading the copy for this week's edition, there was not only no bureaucrats appointed in 2015, it's been 2 years since one was appointed (January 2014). This has been a subject of discussion (whether or not it is a problem) like at Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard/Archive 33#Question about RfBs and new bureaucrats. Nice article this week, by the way. Liz Read! Talk! 17:55, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
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Hi Tony could you please help start the article for ACPA (the Aboriginal Centre for the Performing Arts? It is the biggest indiginous arts enterprise in Australia and they do full on Opera, Ballet, Pop etc. It gets about 2M funding a year but needs more exposure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asdak waa ( talk • contribs) 02:11, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
I see a fuss being made about the passage of this bill through the US House of Representatives. I appears to invade online privacy. To what extent should we be concerned about it? Tony (talk) 02:19, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi Tony, just to let you know this edit introduced some errors to the FC Zbrojovka Brno article, particularly the managers section and changing "2007–Nov 08" to "2007 – Nov 8", when the "Nov 08" actually refers to 2008. I don't know if anything can be done about this in terms of the script, but in this instance I have manually corrected the data. Thanks, C 679 09:27, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
Christian75 ( talk) 20:35, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi Tony1 - when you ran the script in this edit, it incorrectly changed an infobox template parameter. Could you please let Ohconfucius know which script you ran so he can fix the script? Thanks! GoingBatty ( talk) 21:38, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi, you had a problem with the epithet? I don't understand. And if it's to be removed (I don't think it should), the "the" has to go with it. Tony (talk) 12:43, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
WP:RY have you even read it before making 100 million changes to the world article???
"& N D A S H ;" is part of the world articles - voted on my numerous admin editors and yet you send out your bot to endlessly destroy the world articles
do you have any idea how much trouble you are causing???-- 68.231.15.56 ( talk) 14:38, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
go here WP:RY#Format
now attempt to edit that section and and in the edit window look at the text for dates
it is all " & N D A S H ; "-- 68.231.15.56 ( talk) 14:50, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
further all the dates are linked because these articles are calanders
they are intrinsically date oriented and exempt from date linking prohabition
yet you remove the date linking from the world articles endlessly
if you have a problem with the agreed upon method then try and gain consensus and change WP:RY - But until you get consensus there you are just an endless vandal-- 68.231.15.56 ( talk) 14:55, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
-- 68.231.15.56 ( talk) 15:14, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
i like how you are dismissive even thou you are flat out wrong i will quote an admin about date linking -
"On the contrary, you are the one violating the guidelines. Although there is an error is
WP:LINKING and
MOS:UNLINKDATES, the RfC changing the guideline specifically exempts "timeline" articles "intrinsically chronological articles", such as this one. It is hence left to the local consensus on this article, which has been against unlinking for some time. If you can establish consensus for unlinking on this article, go ahead and unlink. —
Arthur Rubin
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-- 68.231.15.56 ( talk) 15:28, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
If you're talking about the enormous wordcount of my edit to your advice page, then take a deep breath and relax: Your article is still there-- all of its message, all of its ideas, all of its meaning. My edit's wordcount is enormous because I timed out while writing it, and instead of hunting down all my individual edits, I copied everything in the edit box to my clipboard, opened your page, clicked "Edit," selected everything in the edit box, pasted the text that I'd copied from my clipboard over it-- at least, I intended as much. The prose should be 'tighter,' and I hope that you like what I've done. Of course, your article could still be there, and my edits could have been utterly useless. For that misjudgment, I apologize, and humbly ask to know of my errors in greater detail.
-Duxwing — Preceding unsigned comment added by Duxwing ( talk • contribs) 17:56, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
Great! I'll wait for your 'buzz'. Duxwing (talk) 02:43, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for taking an interest. Without coming over all Uriah Heep I am just a humble content guy trying to improve the coverage of my area of interest. I wonder if the policy of not linking obviously understood terms might be vulnerable to cultural bias. Do we assume that everyone using WP is an educated, intelligent anglophone? Maybe. I also wonder about what might be termed "Temporal bias", by which I mean that the things that seem self-evident now might appear less so in the future. You see, I am rather idealistic about this project and expect it to be around, in one form or another, for a long time.
To be more specific, terms like Great Britain and United Kingdom have meant different things at different times. Would a link be acceptable if it helped to differentiate between these? Tigerboy1966 14:39, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Above all, it's suspected by a lot of editors that readers don't really use the internal linking system as much as we think they might; so I like to focus them on fewer rather than more, to use our skills as editors to show them what the most important knowledge-tracks are. Good linking practice, I think, is under-recognised as a new art we hardly knew about 10 years ago. It can make all the difference. I'm still learning more about its potential! Tony (talk) 14:55, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
And I notice you've raised an important dimension in the temporal aspect. Yes, iPad will eventually not be linked much at all; but there was a time when you'd have linked its first occurrence in every article. Like updating events and bios, linking can be tweaked as part of maintenance: items move into and out of appropriate linking over time. So much more interesting than paper publishing. Tony (talk) 15:03, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Now here's an intriguing one, see Paul S. Walsh which is at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Paul S. Walsh/archive1. I am pondering how easy/difficult it is to make/ensure it is neutral and encyclopedic in tone.... Casliber ( talk · contribs) 20:55, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi there TONY, AL from Portugal "here",
thanks for your kind words. Yes i completely understand your approach, but here's my two cents: everybody knows what a cigarette is in English i believe, ages 9-99, but if you wikilink that, people may be "tempted" to read that article and "cultivate" themselves more on that subject, instead of just reading about their footballer (field where i edit 99,99999% of the time) of choice at a given time.
I totally understand the approach of overlinking where you link (example) FC Barcelona once then can't do it again in article, but i am at a total loss with this other overlinking bit.
Keep up the great work, i'll "wiki-see" you around -- AL ( talk) 14:50, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
Did you want to add a closing ' to make "Oppose" bold at Talk:Loomis, Okanogan County, Washington? Apteva ( talk) 02:29, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks very much for your comments about Freedom for the Thought That We Hate at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Freedom for the Thought That We Hate/archive1.
I've done my best to address these comments, and responded at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Freedom for the Thought That We Hate/archive1.
As I stated at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Freedom for the Thought That We Hate/archive1, these were quite helpful comments and I think the article now looks much better after I went ahead and implemented all of them.
Thanks again,
— Cirt ( talk) 15:20, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
I have just partly reverted this edit of yours to Joseph Diaz Gergonne - among other alterations, you had altered a piped link to Nancy, France to an unpiped link to Nancy. Unfortunately, Nancy, France was the correct target and Nancy is a disambiguation page, so I have changed just this back. PWilkinson ( talk) 17:23, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks very much for all of your help with successfully getting Freedom for the Thought That We Hate to Featured Article quality. I really appreciate the assistance in getting this article about freedom of speech to FA. — Cirt ( talk) 23:33, 8 May 2013 (UTC) |
<red face> Thank you, Cirt. I normally try to keep some distance, though, since I made critical comments at the FAC page. I look forward to your continued work on US legal topics—it might be a model for writers in other jurisdictions, which are rather poorly served in some cases. Tony (talk) 04:26, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Hey Tony. I have a quick question regarding something stylistic. When referring to a country's government as an entity mid-sentence, should one write "Government of [country name]" (capitalized G) or "government of [country name]" (lower-case g)? I've seen both used— sometimes interchangeably—though I'm sure one of them is preferred in professional prose. This is in American English, for what it's worth. Thanks in advance! Auree ★ ★ 20:37, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
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Hi! Please express your opinion on the meta:Grants:WM UA/Free Vocal Music concert, as the wiki-concert is planned on May, 15, and we need to know the GAC decision at least a day in advance. Thank you! WMUA Executive Director -- Perohanych ( talk) 21:41, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi Tony. I struck the oppose !vote you added on behalf of Noetica, and gave my reasons there. Just wanted to stop by here and make sure you didn't think it was anything against you. Let me know if you think I handled it poorly. Thanks. Dohn joe ( talk) 19:53, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
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That Signpost article on the WMF board was terrific; concise, thorough, and informative. Keep up the good work! Go Phightins ! 02:03, 25 May 2013 (UTC) |
Hi there TONY,
If you must... -- AL ( talk) 15:59, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
I didn't write that section. I have tweaked it a couple of times. I inserted the bit about the time that the police had been called, which was wrongly placed within the section. I have just removed the offending "the" and the extra comma. Would you check it? If you are a stickler for grammar and clear expression, you might find other necessary changes.
In various places I have simplified sentences into the most basic statements possible, eliminating the "When this happened that happened" stuff. It's hard to get people to write simple facts without trying to construct ideas out of them. The avarage Wikipedian would make a very poor witness!. Amandajm ( talk) 13:28, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
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For your email; responded. – SJ + 17:51, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
At the FAC for Harvey Kurtzman's Jungle Book, Eric Corbett believes that the period of one of the captions should be removed. I know that he knows his stuff, but I can't wrap my head around his explanation; it appears to be a grammatically complete sentence to me, and I thought such captions required a period. Mr Corbett has suggested I ask you for a second opinion or explanation. Would you be willing? Curly Turkey ( gobble) 00:09, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi, might you consider revisiting your !vote here as it has been established that it is a Latin ligature rather than a relic of Old Norse.-- Gilderien Chat| List of good deeds 13:36, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi there, Tony1, I hope you're doing well! :)
You previously participated in an FAC for Everything Tastes Better with Bacon.
It's subsequently had additional copy-editing through Guild of Copy Editors and a once-over by FA Writer Tim Riley.
I've nominated it for consideration a 2nd time at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Everything Tastes Better with Bacon/archive2.
Your input would be appreciated, at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Everything Tastes Better with Bacon/archive2.
Thank you for your time, — Cirt ( talk) 19:17, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Hallo Tony, I'm not sure where you have appeared from. In the particular case of changing the dates in the citations to newspapers like The TImes i think the concept is just daft. 'Nuff said? Eddaido ( talk) 14:08, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
Your current round of script-assisted edits, such as [1], are putting a space between a temperature-value and its degrees unit. For example, that edit changed "-78°C" to "−78 °C". MOS is to use a non-breaking space there, "−78 °C", so that the units stay with the value during line-wrapping. DMacks ( talk) 15:14, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
s/(\d)\s*°/\1 °/
[2] converted "oxymercuration-reduction" to "oxymercuration–eduction"--no idea how that happened, and decapitalized the "S" in the book title " Organic Syntheses" (part of a general tendency/overly zealous decapitalizing of "common words" that happen in names and titles [3]?) DMacks ( talk) 12:09, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I asked a question here about most of Meta being in English. What exactly were you counting? Almost all discussions there are in English, but most mainspace pages are in other languages (at least partially). πr2 ( t • c) 02:58, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
This edit changed a hyphen to an endash in a doi=
field. That value is a machine-readable token for a database and has to remain as whatever the
DOI system wants, not something subject to our MOS or other editor-choice stylings.
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¡digame!¿que pasa? 11:43, 6 June 2013 (UTC)I have discovered a very successful way of dealing with articles that are causing me to lose sleep: remove them from my watchlist!
Cheers! Amandajm ( talk) 09:54, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi Tony, I left a note for you at the end of this section. If you have time, I'd be quite interested in what you have to say. SlimVirgin (talk) 21:28, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I'm wondering why you deleted the sentence "He is the first child for Angela and partner Simon", from the Angela Pippos article? Not disputing it, just curious. Cheers. Melbourne3163 ( talk) 11:13, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello again, I can see that you are a vastly experienced and professional editor. I try to continually improve my editing knowledge and notice you changed the formatting of "7pm" in the biography section of the Angela Pippos article. Could I ask what the significance is of the revised formatting and is this an automated edit process or a manual one? I would appreciate your comments/advice. Thanks. Melbourne3163 ( talk) 21:25, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
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Do not post on my talk page again.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 01:30, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
Jarry is stepping down from writing the Signpost Tech report. I gave him a Signpost barnstar Will you sign it with me?. Thanks, -- Pine ✉ 06:34, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
About a year ago, you tried to help User:Baboon43 learn the ropes of dealing with editing disputes. One year on, there are still community concerns regarding some incivility and edit warring behavior. There is now a discussion open at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Baboon43 with the goal of helping the user deal with disputes in a new, better way. I'm just informing you in case you would like to observe and comment. MezzoMezzo ( talk) 12:48, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
... reply on my talk, SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 03:22, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
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For your work, and of course, your self help courses in helping me format my sentences in a more encyclopaedic manner. Ugog Nizdast ( talk) 13:47, 29 June 2013 (UTC) |
Hey, sorry I couldn't reply earlier, but I had left the country shortly after your reply [4]. I think this type of communication/public activity is risky currently in my country. Bloggers and Tweeps are targeted by the government, see for instance [5]. For someone writing on political articles, I bet they could sentence me to a year on the vague charge of "misusing the right of free expression". Mohamed CJ (talk) 09:07, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Tony - have you heard of this construction...I often drop "the" in this scenario.... Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 02:29, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
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Hello. Please participate in the current discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Wehwalt ( talk) 09:09, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Per your query "Unsure why this wasn't a legitimate comment in this context." That comment was directed solely about my conduct, and was correctly moved to my user talk page. It has no place whatsoever on the article talk page. See WP:FOC and WP:NPA (both policies). If we remove the parts that are out of place, we have:
Apteva, yes, there are a lot of things you fail to see about wikipedia article naming. Why do you press for such changes, given that your views are so out of step with the how titling work here? How can want to move a title that is just precise enough to say what the article topic is to one that is ridiculously ambiguous? How can you interpret the popularity of this article as an indication that it is named wrong? Your logic makes no sense.
Leaving us with absolutely nothing. We are not to use article talk pages to either berate or praise editors. That is what user talk pages are for. We are not to attack others for their arguments, they are their arguments. We can explain our own arguments, we can disagree with the arguement, but not express it as differing with an individual, and if we have a question about the argument, we ask it of the argument, not the editor, or the group, not the editor. Your use of @Apteva, for example, was completely inappropriate, and never done in a threaded discussion (the only use is for example in WP:AE discussions where threaded discussions are forbidden). Use a diff if you need to to explain what you are referring to, not an editors username, and definitely not the word "you". We need to find a way to get the editor in question to "sit up and act straight", and not be encouraging their personal attacks. It is really not that hard to write sentences that do not include the word "you". Just focus on the topic and not on the editor. Apteva ( talk) 17:15, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
This is not about personal attacks, but is about keeping conversations on topic in order to build consensus. Our advice about using the word you, though, WP:AVOIDYOU, does appear on the NPA page, which points out that "Insulting or disparaging an editor is a personal attack regardless of the manner in which it is done." That boomerang was one of Wikipedia's stupidest ever blocks. Thinking that notifications is a justification for naming an editor is absolutely absurd, and is just plain illogical. No matter how many times someone sees an editor named in a threaded discussion, RfCs, AfDs, they are all totally inappropriate and the practice needs to end. Apteva ( talk) 14:43, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
So the next time anyone gets the urge to thank someone in a threaded discussion, please do it on their talk page instead. The results are infinitely more better. Although I suspect the grammar of that sentence is somewhat lacking. Apteva ( talk) 14:58, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
The trouble is, Apteva, that "keeping conversations on topic to build consensus" seems to mean to build the consensus that you want. This might be why so many editors come away upset after interactions with you (oops, I used the banned word, or is "you" ok on my talk page?). This is especially true of structured environments such as RMs, where you have at times employed fairly aggressive tactics to get your way. "one of Wikipedia's stupidest ever blocks"—in the larger scheme, I'm not sure I agree.
I see that you've again reverted Dicklyon's comment—one that I don't believe is inappropriate. Tony (talk) 15:00, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
Tony, the core issue here seems to be not only a lack of understanding of NPA, but also a faulty AGF-ometer. Like you, I had observed overnight the interaction with Graham87, which concerns me (I had his talk watchlisted after noting the difficulty in reaching him during the arb case I diffed at the ANI, [12] and noting his recurring insistence on unusual sections in medical articles). I will be extremely busy through mid-August, but should things not improve and should an RFC be indicated, please ping me ?? I found some reference somewhere that User:Moonriddengirl had once mentored him, but he removes so many talk page posts that it was difficult to verify that. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 14:56, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your support. Are you able to let me or ANI know what recent other outrages Sandstein has committed? Especially interesting will be examples of his going on the warpath against people who question his judgment as that is the issue I have raised. I know he has a lot of enemies but I haven't been watching his actions closely enough to know which he has made recently and why.-- Peter cohen ( talk) 01:09, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Would you be so kind as to add "as nominator" to your !vote at Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates#RFC on governance of the FA forums? The proponent of anything is assumed to support it without voting separately. Thanks. Apteva ( talk) 03:09, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
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or words to that effect. Apteva ( talk) 03:57, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Let me choose my words carefully. ... No. Tony (talk) 03:59, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi. We're organizing an office hours session with the Teahouse to bring in mentors from across the wiki to try out Snuggle and discuss it's potential to support mentorship broadly. The Snuggle team would appreciate it if you would come and participate in the discussion. We'll be having it in #wikimedia-office connect on Wed. July 17th @ 1600 UTC. See the agenda for more info. -- EpochFail( talk • work), Technical 13 ( talk), TheOriginalSoni ( talk) 19:08, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Isderion is edit warring/ vandalizing my work. Could you help/advise me on this regard? J Kadavoor J e e 06:31, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
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OK, I know that neither your nor The ed17 ( talk · contribs) wrote this, but a) it's not clear who did, perhaps Keilana ( talk · contribs)?; b) it's unfortunate no one copyedited since false impressions were spread simply because of poor writing/grammar; and c) it's typical of what I've come to expect of The Signpost.( see grammar corrections here.) A page which got 1,000 views cast Brianboulton ( talk · contribs) in the role of "quickly devolving into ... " (via an incorrect preposition-- a copyedit matter), and Fuchs and me as edit warriors (via "continued") when neither of us engaged in the edit war that followed our first BRD cycle. Seriously ... 1,000 editors have now read false information about Brian, Fuchs and me ... it is this kind of reporting that has gone on for so long and has put me off of reading The Signpost. If they are going to write something about someone, how about running it by those editors so they can have a chance to see what falsehoods are being spread before they go to print? When I wrote the Dispatches, that's the courtesy I offered. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:11, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
Sandy, I think your comments here are quite disingenuous, and I wish you would drop your inexplicable vendetta against me. I'm sorry my copy wasn't perfect, that's because we were short on time and I chose to take care of a problem at work rather than hunt down a copyeditor to do a rush job. You insinuating that I don't have "basic competency in writing Wikipedia articles" is nasty and unfounded as well, I really don't appreciate your snide comments like that. However, I don't think I misrepresented anything that anyone did, and I certainly didn't do so out of COI or maliciousness. I was obviously not a participant in that discussion and don't have strong feeligs about it. Furthermore, I was unaware that notifications didn't work in Wikipedia space and assumed that people would know I had mentioned them. I would have appreciated a notification of this discussion myself, I just happen to have this page on my watchlist so I could participate. I get that you have concerns, but if you have an issue with something I did, take it to me, don't go to people who weren't involved in writing the piece. Keilana| Parlez ici 15:22, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
( talk page stalker) Notifications work in Wikipedia space. If you're not getting them there must be some other problem — uh, could you have them turned off? Bishonen | talk 09:10, 23 July 2013 (UTC).
Thanks from Myanmar. 203.81.67.123 ( talk) 13:23, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
You deserve more than barns or stars for venturing into indonesian soccer crap, you'll find there is a very large mount of indonesian score board itis idiots who dont have english mucking around in there with over linking, too many flags, and no content - enjoy... sats 08:43, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you, Tony, for the frighteningly large amount of work you do for the Signpost's "News and notes" section. Your efforts are greatly appreciated by both me and the movement as a whole. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 21:46, 23 July 2013 (UTC) |
Hi Tony, Wikivoyage is celebrating its 10th anniversary today by Wikivoyagers all around the world. It would be nice if you mention about it in the next Signpost newsletter.
-- 139.190.159.228 ( talk) 13:44, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi! Whenever you have time, can you please re-visit the FAC for Hyderabad, India? Regards.-- Dwaipayan ( talk) 01:15, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
Sorry to get back to you so late. Thanks for the comments on the FAN page for "X-Cops". I changed what you suggested. How does it look now?-- Gen. Quon (Talk) 00:35, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
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The links are to WMF's own logs. Kiefer .Wolfowitz 13:09, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
OK. Thanks. -- Lemur12 ( talk) 11:06, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
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Hey Tony, do you know of a script or AWB module that can deal with overlinking? -- John ( talk) 20:31, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello! I don't know if I ever successfully got a hold of you. I was wondering you had seen the changes I'd made to "X-Cops", per your suggestions, and if there was anything else you'd suggest.-- Gen. Quon (Talk) 23:24, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Tony - what was up with this revert? I would have done the same if there were any two-comma-wanting editors who had not re-expressed their opinion in the survey section that was added by dicklyon in the middle of the discussion. How is that not equitable? Dohn joe ( talk) 03:14, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Missing Wikipedians#Noetica (version of
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You added Idiom dictionary to Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2013 May 29, but the "source" you listed is a Wikipedia diff. Did you insert the wrong url?-- SPhilbrick (Talk) 19:17, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
As an expert on grammar, do you have any advice for the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (geographic names)/Archives/2013/September#Commas in metro areas? We have kind of an odd situation there, dealing with metropolitan and micropolitan areas in the United States. The census bureau provides data every ten years, and the Office of Management and Budget picks a bunch of areas every so often and defines them either as metropolitan or micropolitan areas, and defines which cities and towns are included in each. For example, Las Vegas has a metropolitan area that they call the Las Vegas-Paradise, NV Metropolitan Statistical Area, and one including Dayton, Ohio, called the Dayton, OH Metropolitan Statistical Area. There are 939 of these, [15] and of these we have a little over 100 articles of the format [[city, state metro/micropolitan area]]. None of these are contained within the named city. Clearly if someone writes the sentence, Dayton, Ohio, is part of a metropolitan area, a comma is needed after the state, but what about the sentence, the Dayton, Ohio Metropolitan Statistical Area includes Dayton, Ohio? Is a comma required between Ohio and Metropolitan? Thanks. Oh, we also have two articles of the format city, state, metro/micropolitan area, but one of those was moved to that title today. Apteva ( talk) 08:20, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi there. I found your userpage by searching through the edit history of the Manual of Style, in the hopes that I could find someone well-versed in journalistic style and naming conventions.
I'm currently involved in a dispute with some other editors over the naming of the " big.LITTLE" article. As far as I can tell, they are all computer-programmer types who know a lot about technical stuff but very little about correct English. The dispute began when in passing, I casually renamed the article from "big.LITTLE" to "Big.little": As it is not an acronym, it seemed like an obvious error. Then a huge debate ensued.
So if you feel like you have the necessary writing education, or whether you know someone who does, I'd be grateful for a professional opinion.
InternetMeme ( talk) 11:47, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi Tony1, much respect for all your work on WP but how about getting rid of your user page on "Monthly updates of styleguide and policy changes"? I typed "WP:Updates" into the search box, a reasonable thing to do I thought that others may well do also, and there it was - not touched since 2008. -- Noyster ( talk) 22:07, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Stalking Gerda Arendt, I noticed your intention to visit Leipzig (which is in Saxony, not Thuringia – where Erfurt, Eisenach, and Weimar are must-see places). I've just been there (during the recent floods) and I stronly recommend you put (at least) 2 days for a visit to Dresden aside – it's much more spectacular than Leipzig (although the 2 Bach churches there & his grave made my hair stand on end). Bon voyage – Gute Reise -- Michael Bednarek ( talk) 14:43, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
Paul MacDermott ( talk) 14:40, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
Since you provided some editing on the article, I was wondering if you might weigh in on the discussion about whether or not to delete it
Doug Turnbull (author} Bides time ( talk) 22:00, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
I noticed that your recent edit was not like your previous ones [16] [17]. Was that from a mouse malfunction? Or perhaps it might be worth testing a concept where certain non-STRONGNAT articles are style-toggled every 3-4 months. Will await your thoughts either way... Dl2000 ( talk) 00:25, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Paul MacDermott ( talk) 14:08, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm curious what consensus you were citing when you made this change. You seemed to think that the example "1492? – 7 April 1556" was inconsistent with the previous wording of the style guide. However, you missed (as I almost did) the hidden-in-plain-sight space after the question mark. Contrarily, the example 1–17 September, would not be possible if your change were made. Marcus Qwertyus ( talk) 07:13, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Worried that I'd have to trout myself, I pulled some old revisions to the article. As it turns out, the Wikipedian who made this edit is the one that invented the word "concertized" :-). My dictionary informs me that it is a real verb, at least in North America, but it means to give a concert. He may have meant "constituted". AGK [•] 13:05, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Tony - I just made a similar post at dicklyon's talkpage (and at the comma debate as well), but I wanted to draw your attention to this authority, too, since I know both of you give great thought to issues of style/grammar. Don't you think that Garner's description/guidance/analysis of using dates as adjectives really hits the mark as to placenames as well? The earlier cites I found were much more oblique. Here, he really comes right out and says that a) most stylists use one comma; b) one comma is grammatically/stylistically more sound (and why); and c) few, if any, guides address the specific issue of date/placename as adjective. Doesn't that cut right to the heart of the debate? Dohn joe ( talk) 21:00, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
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Hey, I went a bunch of times through the article and combed and re-combed it. Sorry for bugging in, but I would really appreciate if you could let me know if you think the article is still below par. Thanks, Nergaal ( talk) 02:32, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
I would of course have to defer to you, the Superior Emperor and Chief Everything Officer of the Galactic Society of Deofbuscation via Reverse Circumlocuation and Antiesquipedalianist Unobscurantism. :-) W Nowicki ( talk) 19:16, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi, Tony. :)
There's a very specific procedure for listing pages at WP:CP, much like at WP:AFD. If you want to list an article for review there, please first tag the article with {{ copyvio}}. It will generate a template for you to place at the copyvio page (and give you a link to show you where to place it) and also give you a template to notify the editor. This notification is really important. Listings at WP:CP are not supposed to be closed until the contributor of the content has had at least a week's notice. If you forget what template to use, all this can be found at Wikipedia:Copyright_problems#Instructions_for_listing_text-based_copyright_concerns. I'm afraid that the instructions at the bottom of the page are messed up because of the backlog. :/
I went ahead and looked at the article you listed, and this one is okay. :) If you look at the link, at the bottom of the article that includes the problematic section, you'll see "Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia © 2001-2006 Wikipedia contributors (Disclaimer) This article is licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License. Last updated on Friday October 10, 2008 at 20:22:45 PDT (GMT -0700) View this article at Wikipedia.org - Edit" Not all content on reference.com is from Wikipedia, but quite a bit of it is.
Thanks for being conscientious about such issues! -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:59, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi, Tony, I was hoping that my efforts to upgrade the Tippett article would inspire your attention. Please keep up the good work as time allows – it will save me a lot of time in the final polishing, when the expansion is complete. I expect the article to keep me busy for several weeks yet. One small point: I see you have added nbsps into the page numbers. I never do this - don't see any point, since the page references don't occur in the text. Please don't feel you need to do this. Regards, Brianboulton ( talk) 10:47, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
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Please consider posting a reply to Dank at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Tony1/Monthly updates of styleguide and policy changes. Thanks! -- Jreferee 06:42, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
What are your thoughts on this closure? GabeMc ( talk| contribs) 20:08, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi Tony, I hope all is well with you.
I wonder if I could ask you about spaced/unspaced en dashes in dates. Is the following correct (all in the same article, in case consistency is an issue)?
That is, no space when two numbers are together; otherwise a space? I feel reasonably sure about 1 and 3, but less sure about 2. SlimVirgin (talk) 16:14, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you so much for the Interference and for trying to settle the issue between users such as between Me and Ohconfucius. Consensus reached in that Article's Talk page Discussion and i'm changing the Date formats to those Indian articles i contribute daily to DMY per Ties, Strong NAT :) Raghusri ( talk) 11:06, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi, Tony, many thanks for your continuing watch and help on Tippett. Just to let you know, I'm more or less done with the biography material, and am working (when I can) on the "music" sections – hard going. Then I'll be doing the lead. Brianboulton ( talk) 09:05, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect 2C-H. Since you had some involvement with the 2C-H redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). —[ AlanM1( talk)]— 21:17, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Please note that this edit broke four interwiki links to Wikisource. Editing within the {{ cite DNB}} template is not appropropriate, and the Wikisource title convention, for the DNB, is hyphen not endash in titles. Charles Matthews ( talk) 09:44, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
Hey, Tony. When you made some script-assisted fixes at Little Nemo today, you changed a bunch of dates in refs from YYYY-MM-DD to MMM D, YYYY, even though WP:DATESNO allows YYYY-MM-DD for refs (in fact, all my FAs passed with YYYY-MM-DD dates in the refs). Also, you changed a "#4" to a "No. 4", even though MOS:POUND makes an exception there for comic books. I assume these are exceptions that aren't written into the script? Curly Turkey ( gobble) 05:11, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
I'm emailng you concerning a WMF issue, because you're in Japan. Tony (talk) 01:38, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi Tony,
I noticed that you have been involved with the John Edward Brownlee articles in the past and I thought that you might be interested in the current featured topic candidacy for these articles. Any constructive comments you would be willing to provide there would be greatly appreciated.
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Tony1, not sure we are simpatico, but would really appreciate if you could peer review/ce Fluorine. It's got a lot of cool layout and content. Your help on the Lead and first major section would help brushup what the reader sees first. Know you can make the words sing. 98.117.75.177 ( talk) 17:41, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello, and thank you for your recent contributions. I appreciate the effort you made for our project, but unfortunately I had to undo your edit(s) because I believe the article was better before you made that change. Feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions. Thank you! Epicgenius( give him tirade • check out damage) 15:55, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
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Hello! The reverts I made were for the IPs from Guatemala that was rangeblocked several times for disrupting Wikipedia by linking dates on Latin music albums despite repeated warnings to do so, as well as adding unsourced release dates and singles. It seems I made it seems mistakes with the mass reversion for I apologize for the inconvience. Erick ( talk) 05:52, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
Tony, If you're going to continue to say things like "Toddst1 has a record of bad behaviour not befitting an admin" and "This is certainly not the first time I've seen Toddst1 involved in abusive behaviour" you should be able to show that WP:ADMINABISE has in fact occurred and that your comments are being constructive. If you truly think I'm such a shitty admin, I suggest starting an WP;RFCU/A.
Instead what I see is, whenever my name is mentioned on ANI lately, you come up with these hollow pearls rather than investigating whether I have abused any administrative privileges or what the circumstances in fact are.
In the case with TWC, it is more than clear that while I have been less than diplomatic with this highly and serially confrontational editor, I have not used *any* administrative privileges, which makes it impossible for me to have abused them.
I have made 75,000+ edits on 34,000+ unique pages and made about 24,000 administrative actions. I've made quite a few tough calls and indeed screwed up a few times. Despite a few issues (which everyone has), I have a record of good behavior. If you look at the percentage of my edits with which folks have taken issue, they are infinitesimally small. However small that is, it still leaves room for improvement which I continually aspire to.
However, continuing to make hollow comments like those can be considered personal attacks and with the serial nature over several ANI discussions is starting to look like harassment. Please stop.
Respectfully, Toddst1 ( talk) 14:51, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
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I was thinking about the possibility of lending a helping hand with the News and notes section, FYI. Would you have any recommendations about how to start off doing something small? Thanks. Biosthmors ( talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{ U}}) while signing a reply, thx 18:33, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
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The sex tourism article just turned my stomach. But thanks for writing it. Liz Read! Talk! 21:08, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
Hey. I changed the title of your Signpost piece on Wikivoyage because you made an idiom error; however, it was reverted because it's your Signpost piece.
Since you're apparently the only one authorized to make that particular edit, I politely request that you implement it. Thanks. DS ( talk) 12:55, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
I expected screeching and scratching and biting ... it's the cost of doing business if you're going to conduct investigative journalism. The good thing is that people in the Wikimedia movement are taking notice, whatever they think of the story. While you'd hope that the Wikivoyage community itself might take a more constructive view, it appears that the alpha-males are not about to let that happen any time soon.
The thing they really got upset about was my claim that if they continue to sit around doing nothing, the site will fade away given the crowded market for online travel information. I still don't understand why they found that so profoundly unsettling. There's no sense, for example, that someone might go for an IEG grant to perform specific jobs—including programming—that could lead to improvements. I supported the migration, and I still think the site can be made to work well. That they see me as an enemy is their own illusion. Funnily enough, I don't think they realised that I was interacting on the site primarily to cover it for the Signpost. Tony (talk) 10:58, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Given it's been kept at MfD, I've reposted a proposal to tighten it. See header. Cheers, Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 21:47, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
I have opened a new RFC at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style § RFC: Proposed amendment to MOS:COMMA regarding geographical references and dates for further discussion. — sroc 💬 08:24, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
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I'm sure you've much more important concerns, but just so you're aware that the shenanigans continue: https://en.wikivoyage.org/?title=User_talk:Saqib&oldid=2472008#Warning
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"Sir" is gone. - Dank ( push to talk) 02:34, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Tony1, When you revisit Michael Moorcock you need to do so without converting Retrieved date formats to dmy. I covered this two months ago in reply to your inquiry at User talk:P64#Linking, with instructive references. (In the Moorcock edit summary moments ago, I referred by mistake to my User page rather than User talk page.) -- P64 ( talk) 16:33, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
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RE: your statement at the RFAR "There's the potential for editors not to see that alerts are informational, and the fact that an alert will bring one closer to being sanctioned is a risk for misinterpretation."
Yes, indeedy. I was reminded of a statement of Noetica's from over a year ago, commenting on a specific page under article probation, and went back to look it up.
Some of the provisions of one article under sanction: "We actually know when we cross the line; we are all intelligent people" "Don't get worked up when you get subjected to remedies such as a temporary block or ban." "Sanctions imposed may include... any other measures the imposing administrator believes are reasonably necessary to ensure the smooth functioning of the project."
Just peeking at the new draft proposal...while the old procedures have "guidance" sections for both admins and editors, under the new proposal there are "roles" for admins, but "behavioural expectations" for editors. Ah yes, children have behavior, but adults have conduct, which implies a social contract.
Same song, different tune.
And will the new procedures eliminate warnings that identify misconduct, as appears now? If so, what will replace it, secret courts as some have proposed, and lettres de cachet? A previous "speedbanning" proposal has already failed to gain traction. Interesting times. — Neotarf ( talk) 17:36, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (geographic names)#En dash vs. "and" for multi-state metro areas. Herostratus ( talk) 18:21, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
I don't think it's a good idea to de-link infoboxes, or leads for that matter. 1). It's totally against uniformity across music articles 2). Quick reference links for readers is the norm in infoboxes and lead and should remain for readers. Infoboxes and leads can easily be restored after running the script. Mlpearc ( open channel) 13:29, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
Dear Tony,
I checked in Firefox and Chrome in Windows and Linux, I also did not find any thumbnail. The thumbnail of that image
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dadhimadhab_Mandir_-_Amragori_-_Howrah_2013-09-22_2849-2901.TIF was removed by
User:McZusatz. I could not understand why it was done so! What is the benefit to reduce 25 MB space including thumbnail and original color profile and adding again 475 MB space? I did not make it .JPG because almost six times unique color would be lost! The mandir is one of the greatest terracotta architecture in Howrah district, I wanted not to loose any single color from the stitched hi-res photograph. Regards. --
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Apologies, it looks like I accidentally reverted your copyeditting on bruxism? I meant to only take out the recent primary sources from the treatment section, sorry. Lesion ( talk) 14:41, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
Noted this message at the top of your talk page. I understand this sentiment, having seen what kind of admin behavior is permitted on Commons, but I would point out that images which are uploaded to wikipedia and not commons are auto-tagged by a bot for transfer, and then usually get transferred over anyway... I have seen this happen a few times... I didn't think there was any choice but to upload to commons... Lesion ( talk) 14:43, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
Still very much a draft, and I'm aiming for launch after the holidays, in case you want to have a look at the prose:
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Season's greetings from Santa and her little helpers
I wouldn't wanna fuss wif Santa or doze helpers. Tony (talk) 02:46, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
What's a holiday without a funny-tasting chicken? Most flavourful they are soonest after glaring directly into the twinkle of your eye.
Gobble gobble! Curly Turkey ( gobble) 02:41, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
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Damn need a few of these after a frenetic year and Xmas. Hope yours is a good one....Cheers, Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 10:03, 25 December 2013 (UTC) |
Thank you Tony for your tips I really appreciate it. Ahmed Mohi El din ( talk) 11:07, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi Tony, just a note to wish you all the best for the New Year. I hope it's a good one for you! Best, SlimVirgin (talk) 16:09, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
I'd like to have more people at FP: That I can do that isn't actually a good thing. If the Signpost wants to take it up, that's great, but I don't want to force it in. Just push others to try harder. Adam Cuerden ( talk) 03:54, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Also, if you do run with it, please, for god's sake, check whether anyone else did similar. Crisco's a possibility. Adam Cuerden ( talk) 03:56, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
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Hi Tony! It's been a long time. I found another word that could be eliminated in one of your redundancy exercises. As always, I would like your opinion. I made the edit already, but please feel free to revert it if you disagree. (The word "should" can be eliminated because it is part of a recommendation, which already implies that something "should" be done). Ke6jjj ( talk) 20:45, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi Tony, and thanks for dropping by on my talk page to give guidance as to what should not be wikilinked. Did you have any particular edit of mine in mind? I seem to spend a lot of my editing time in Category:Dead-end_pages trying to make edits to justify the removal of the "dead end" tag. Most articles present plenty of opportunities for the insertion of really useful wikilinks, but I must admit that there have been a few where I have simply linked a couple of geographical locations in order to justify removing the tag.
I generally try to follow WP:UNDERLINK and WP:OVERLINK. Let me address your bullet points specifically.
I'm sure you've come across frustrating articles which some zealous editor has packed full of totally pointless links to fingers, kilograms, water, moon, child, etc. What it really comes down to is whether my link is going to enrich readers' experience of Wikipedia, save them time, and maybe facilitate a broader exploration of a topic than they might otherwise have undertaken.
Sorry to ramble on so much. It's been fascinating to "meet" you by reading your user page (I share your opinion about Bach, by the way). I'd be interested to know if there was a particular edit of mine that prompted you to visit my talk page. Best regards — Hebrides ( talk) 22:50, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Tony, do you have a list of words that you unlink by script? I'd be interested in a copy so that I can incorporate this step into my routine editing. I currently check automatically the usual internet-published lists of stopwords but would like to do more. Cheers — Hebrides ( talk) 07:31, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
Hello. I have been working on standardizing and providing consistency this page. If you wish to run the script on it that you ran HERE, perhaps you can do so with the date flag OFF as the date format was already correct per MOS's WP:DATE. I have undone your edit to facilitate your re-run. Regards. Mercy11 ( talk) 19:21, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi, and thanks for your notice on my talk page. What did I do wrong? Please leave me a message. Thanks -- Frze > talk 10:04, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi, and thanks for your work on the English Wikipedia. Just a short note to point out that we don’t normally link:
Thanks and my best wishes.
Tony (talk) 08:45, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Tony: Thanks, I guess, but your advice comes as a bit random without a single instance cited, you know what I mean?... Neverthless, noted. -- Aboudaqn ( talk) 16:43, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the note on my talk page! I've only been on Wikipedia since early 2013, so I still have a lot of things to learn. By the way, I was wondering what article I made changes to that prompted your post on my talk page. I have a habit of fixing typos on articles as I read them, meaning that they don't go on my watch list. AmericanLemming ( talk) 20:05, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
(he later corrected this statement to read "paid advocacy editing" rather than editing). - I guess you meant rather than paid editing. Adrian J. Hunter( talk• contribs) 15:53, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Tony1 for the note on my talk page. Can I ask, is your note-leaving on this topic automated? I ask because, as others have said, it would be very helpful if you could list which article(s) I worked on that you thought was/were overlinked. If your messages are sent individually, maybe you could delete those items which don't apply (for example, I never link dates or units of measurement). I also wonder why your list is a bit different from the list in the guideline on overlinking. It's very good to be clear and concise, but your list has at least one different item, which makes it a bit confusing when you look up the topic.
It would be really helpful if in your standard message you could give one or two general examples of country names that should not be linked and the same for those that it is OK to link. I also don't really understand what you mean by "terms you’d look up in a dictionary " so a couple of examples of those that you should and shouldn't link would be extremely usefu in the message l too.
Is there a Wikipedia essay on "smart linking"? if not, would you consider writing one and linking your message to that essay? For some of us long-term editors the idea of smart linking is relatively new, and a good short essay might be be really helpful to us.
Thanks again, Invertzoo ( talk) 16:14, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
I want to thank you for notifying me about overlinking, it made me reconsider what should be wikilinked and see that some links were unnecessary. But I also want to comment on some of your link removals. You have removed several perfectly justifiable wikilinks, such as for (a first occurance of) the word Dutch to the Netherlands which clarifies the word is not referring to Germany (Deutschland in German). Furthermore, linking on Wikipedia is not merely about the definition of words, since it is an encyclopedia and not a dictionary. Of course not every first occurrence of words such as museum or writer needs to be linked, but when someone links the word writer in the opening sentence of an article, he or she is referring the reader to the article with more information about this profession. We don't need to agree on every single link, but I hope you will leave a bit more room for personal preference when it comes to wikilinking. – Editør ( talk) 11:57, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi Tony, I appreciate your effort on the Open access article, but a discussion about hyphenation has happened before (more than once!) and it settled on not using it. See also Talk:Open_access_journal#Hyphen_or_not. - Lawsonstu ( talk) 15:07, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks Tony1 for your comment on my talk page about overlinking on the article (
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Cascavel&diff=next&oldid=586154280). I see what you're saying about overlinking to dates. I had been translating the document from the Brazilian Portuguese version to English and simply copied the original article's linking pattern. It seems they may have different standards on the Portuguese version. So in the future when I translate over a document from PT-->EN, I'll strip out those extraneous links. Cheers!
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Thank you for helping me avoid linking years etc. They often wikilink them on the French Wikipedia and I'm used to it from other wikis too so I've to learn new ways here:) Best regards xx Cogiati ( talk) 08:17, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
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Reading the copy for this week's edition, there was not only no bureaucrats appointed in 2015, it's been 2 years since one was appointed (January 2014). This has been a subject of discussion (whether or not it is a problem) like at Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard/Archive 33#Question about RfBs and new bureaucrats. Nice article this week, by the way. Liz Read! Talk! 17:55, 24 January 2016 (UTC)