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- The edit is not vandalism. Because the official name of Taiwan is the Republic of China. Therefore, the Chinese nationalist party should be marked as the "Republic of China" and the Taiwanese nationalist party as "Taiwan".-- Storm598 ( talk) 02:50, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
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- It's ridiculous and absurd. The TPP and KMT documents against Taiwan's independence also describe the political infobox as "Politics of the Republic of China," not as "Politics of Taiwan." So, can I change the "Politics of the Republic of China" section of the KMT and TPP documents to "Politics of Taiwan"? I was only trying to unify the standards because the standards themselves were jagged in the first place.-- Storm598 ( talk) 03:23, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I don't know if you checked the talk page but following more research I happen to agree with your assessments, though I think an edit note might go a long way: a lot of people see Taiwan get replaced by something with China and panic (Province of PRC, etc.). Let me know what I can do to help/if you want to discuss further on standardization of Taiwan politics related articles; if we're doing one, we might as well do them all. Halfadaniel ( talk) 05:35, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
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May I ask why you removed all categories from a bunch of political parties and decided to nest those categories inside some... other shell category? This does not seem to be standard practice but maybe I'm wrong. DrIdiot ( talk) 04:59, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
See, for example, the categories for Democratic_Party_(United_States) DrIdiot ( talk) 05:00, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, I moved because I thought the categories were overlapping, was it my fault?--
Storm598 (
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- It's a bit confusing to me too, but I think what has been done is that "DPP article" now has its own category (the "DPP category"), and the DPP category is inside a bunch of other categories. However, this isn't transitive -- i.e. the previous other categories that the DPP article belonged to no longer show up on the article page. I think it's best if those categories remain so readers can click on them directly (and this seems to be the practice elsewhere, e.g. on the Democratic Party of USA page, which is pretty well-trafficked so I'd trust it as a standard). If you agree, would you mind changing back other instances where you've done this? DrIdiot ( talk) 10:10, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
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- I've never done disruptive editing. Please participate in the Talk first and decide.-- Storm598 ( talk) 16:37, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Wikipedia must remain neutral. However, 'Category:Anti-Japanese sentiment' classification in documents related to Korea is being applied to the extent that it is against NPOV. However, in documents related to Japan, 'Category:Anti-Korean Sentiment' applies only to very few documents. If you look at the documents that were previously classified as Category: Anti-Japanese Sentiment, I think they are often from no source or objective.-- Storm598 ( talk) 00:27, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Why are you removing this category from articles for which it is obviously appropriate? I see that many of your edits doing this have been reverted. When you look at your contributions page and see edit after edit has been reverted by other editors, you should be taking in the message that your editing is not improving Wikipedia.
The same goes for your edits to political parties. They are in large part not supported by the articles. ALL CATEGORIES MUST BE SUPPORTED BY INFORMATION IN THE ARTICLE. I will be reverting many of these as well.
Your talk page does not exactly show a lot of productive editing in the 3 months you've been here, exactly the opposite I would suggest that you re-evaluate your editing. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 01:03, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Compared to documents classified as "Category: Anti-Korean Sentiment in Japan", there are many documents that seem to be classified unfairly. And it was classified as "Category:Anti-Korean Sentiment in Japan," which is not one or two documents deleted by Japanese wiki users. However, why is "Category: Anti-Japanese Sentiment in Korea" being overissued only in documents related to Korea? For example, is there any objective reason to call it Anti-Japanese just because Koreans drew a movie that resisted the Japanese Empire during the colonial period?-- Storm598 ( talk) 01:12, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- And the standard of 'productive editing' itself is unclear. I've just focused on correcting misinformation or inappropriate editing within Wikipedia.--
Storm598 (
talk) 01:14, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, a movie which shows Korean struggles to throw off their Japanese rulers is an instance of "Anti-Japanese sentiment in Korea," most definitely.
Beyond My Ken (
talk) 01:18, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- No. That's ridiculous. Mahatma Gandhi resisted the British, so is it Anti-British sentimental in India?--
Storm598 (
talk) 01:23, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yes. You're trying to say that Gandhi's campaign for the liberation of India from British rule was NOT an example of anti-British sentiment? That's an utterly ridiculous position.
Beyond My Ken (
talk) 01:24, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- If you think about it backwards, is it racism that resists imperialism? Typically, the 'anti-○○○ sentimental' category is attached to racists, with racism in the parent category. (Imperialism here refers to imperialism in the classical sense.)--
Storm598 (
talk) 01:29, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- It is both sociological AND political - the category doesn't specify whether "Japanese" in "Anti-Japanese sentiment" is referring to the nation of Japan or the Japanese ethnicity, so we have to take it as being both, which is especially appropriate given the concerns among the Japanese to keep their society as mono-ethnic as possible. In any case your Gandhi comparison falls down, because "British" is not an ethnicity, it's a nationality encompassing English people, Scots people, Welsh people and Irish people, as well as many other ethnicities, so the "Anti-XXXX sentiment" categories are clearly NOT about entnicity alone, as you're claiming. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 01:36, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- If you think about it backwards, is it racism that resists imperialism? Typically, the 'anti-○○○ sentimental' category is attached to racists, with racism in the parent category. (Imperialism here refers to imperialism in the classical sense.)--
Storm598 (
talk) 01:29, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yes. You're trying to say that Gandhi's campaign for the liberation of India from British rule was NOT an example of anti-British sentiment? That's an utterly ridiculous position.
Beyond My Ken (
talk) 01:24, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- No. That's ridiculous. Mahatma Gandhi resisted the British, so is it Anti-British sentimental in India?--
Storm598 (
talk) 01:23, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- "Productive editing" means editing in such a way that Wikipedia is improved. I -- and apparently many other editors -- have not found your edits to have been improvements. I am currently engaged in revertiing those in subject areas I know something about, but there remains many others, and I have it in mind to post on
WP:AN a request for other editors to explore your edits in other areas and revert those which are not improvements.
Beyond My Ken (
talk) 01:18, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Contrary to what you wrote above, the placement of the above category on appropriate articles is not an instance of violating NPOV. It seems, rather, that you are editing from a personal PoV, which explains why a multitude of other editors have reverted so many of your edits. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 01:36, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, a movie which shows Korean struggles to throw off their Japanese rulers is an instance of "Anti-Japanese sentiment in Korea," most definitely.
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- Pleas take note of a comment on that discussion which says that "They [meaning you] aren't under any sanction, but they are under discussion at a admin noticeboard so retiring this account and starting a new one would not be permitted under WP:CLEANSTART." What that means is that you cannot "retire" and open a new account. If you wish to keep editing, you need to use this account. If it is discovered that you went ahead and made a new account anyway, it's likely that you would be blocked from editing. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 01:05, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
...therefore your edits adding the "proto-feminist" category to multiple articles are being rolled back. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 05:29, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
I just wanted to drop you a note to let you know that you are banned from posting comments on my talk page, unless, of course, you are required to by Wikipedia policy. If you are required to post a notice on my talk page, please clearly indicate in the edit summary what policy you are doing so under. Any other posted comments will be deleted without being read.
Please note that this ban also applies to pinging me.
Also, if you email me to get around this ban, I will assume that you are agreeing in advance that the entire contents of the e-mail can be released to anyone I wish to.
Thanks. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 05:19, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
Two weeks after saying you were imposing a 3 month block on yourself, you edited again. Are you incapable of doing what you said you would do? Should I nominate you for a formal three month block? Beyond My Ken ( talk) 00:33, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- You are not editing American political documents. What's the problem? If you're so unhappy, I won't edit it for three months.--
Storm598 (
talk) 04:11, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- That's what you already promised to do. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 13:08, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Your three months is NOT up. In any case I have reverted your changes to Republican Governance Group, as you have -- once again -- shown that you do not understand American politics. By the classical definition, almost ALL American politicians are "liberals", however by the AMERICAN definition, there are NO liberals in the modern Republican party, the range of views runs from moderate to deeply conservative.Please stop tinkering with American political articles as you have repeatedly shown that you do not grasp its fundamental concepts, and the Korean blog you rely on for information is misinforming you. If you continue, I will once again have to bring your behavior up on the noticeboards. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 10:33, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Don't be ridiculous. You're the one who wrote the POV description on the Blue Dog Coalition page, changing what was written as "center left to center right" to "center to center-right with right-wing factions". And that description was returned by others. You are maliciously accusing me. I fully understand American politics. It's you who understand American politics 'biased'.-- Storm598 ( talk) 11:06, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- And you talk about Korean blog, and I have never quoted Korean blog in English Wikipedia. You've been maliciously criticizing me for a long time for referring to Namuwiki as a reference case, not as a source.-- Storm598 ( talk) 11:08, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- A user named Beyond My Ken reiterates the POV view. However, You can threatening to post it on the Administrators' noticeboard, saying that I do not understand American politics. Of course, there may be some parts of the American political document that I do not understand. However, there is no source for the Republican Governance Group to regard as a typical conservative organization.-- Storm598 ( talk) 12:27, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- It is also a very European political standard that there is no liberal in the Republican Party in modern America. Right now, the Democratic Party of Korea's social and cultural policy is much more social conservative than the moderate in the U.S. Republican Party. What is clear is that the Republican Governance Group is clearly referred to as "moderate" or "liberal" in reliable sources. -- Storm598 ( talk) 12:27, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
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Better be careful. If you disagree with Acroterion then Bradv might block you then run away when you ask them to justify it. Just ignore them, it is unproductive to do otherwise. PackMecEng ( talk) 01:01, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Especially culturally, Barack Obama has been active in pro-immigration, pro-LGBT and autistic rights issues.
There is nothing liberal or "left" about a politician that is pro-immigration, pro-LGBT, or pro-autistic rights in the US. This is a common misperception about American politics. While it is true that some of these ideas might have been confined to the left many years ago, it no longer has any bearing on the left-right dynamic. The US is a nation of immigrants based on pioneers who were immigrants themselves. The extreme notion that someone can be against immigration and yet still call themselves an American is a misnomer. Again, you are citing extremist, minority, religious positions as some kind of metric for determining who is left or right. Today in the US, one can be pro-LGBT and still be a right-wing conservative. Same for autistic rights. If a politician declares they are against immigration in the US, then they are anti-American. If they say they are anti-LGBT and anti-autistic rights, then they are against democracy and human rights and equal treatment under the law. None of this has to do with being left or right. Viriditas ( talk) 01:21, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
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Viriditas,
The US is a nation of immigrants based on pioneers who were immigrants themselves. The extreme notion that someone can be against immigration and yet still call themselves an American is a misnomer.
&If a politician declares they are against immigration in the US, then they are anti-American.
You keep talking crazy talk while providing no evidence or sources. Please stop. Please. PackMecEng ( talk) 01:22, 31 May 2021 (UTC)- PackMecEng, could you stop with the personal attacks and keep your extremist, cultist beliefs to yourself? Thank you in advance. My comments are not addressed to you, unless this is your alternate account?
Viriditas (
talk) 01:24, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
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Viriditas, Now I am an extremist and a cultist? Wow and you kiss your mother with that mouth!
PackMecEng (
talk) 01:25, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Last time: unless this is your alternate account, stop following me around and interfering with things you don't have any knowledge about. I'm sure there's a Donald Trump-related article that needs whitewashing.
Viriditas (
talk) 01:28, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Barack Obama is not considered a center-right in the American political context. Moderate social liberals like Obama are considered center-right in very few areas, including northern Europe and France. In South Korea, not only the far right but also the center-right are extremely opposed to homosexuality itself. Donald Trump, on the other hand, is an far-right in the political context of the United States, but has not openly opposed homosexuality.--
Storm598 (
talk) 01:35, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- In the US, opposition to homosexuality arises from the Christian evangelical movement, a religious policy position that the right has adopted for votes, not because they are ideologically aligned with it due to the right side of the spectrum. In fact their political ideology supports limited government intervention and more personal freedom for individuals, indicating support for sexual preference. Do you understand now why this is not a political position? In other words, one can be on the right and support homosexuality. Viriditas ( talk) 01:43, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Viriditas, Bro. Look at the section right above this one. I was here first, wtf are you talking about following you around!? Also quit with the childish personal attacks. I am embarrassed for you at this point. PackMecEng ( talk) 01:32, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Barack Obama is not considered a center-right in the American political context. Moderate social liberals like Obama are considered center-right in very few areas, including northern Europe and France. In South Korea, not only the far right but also the center-right are extremely opposed to homosexuality itself. Donald Trump, on the other hand, is an far-right in the political context of the United States, but has not openly opposed homosexuality.--
Storm598 (
talk) 01:35, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Last time: unless this is your alternate account, stop following me around and interfering with things you don't have any knowledge about. I'm sure there's a Donald Trump-related article that needs whitewashing.
Viriditas (
talk) 01:28, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
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Viriditas, Now I am an extremist and a cultist? Wow and you kiss your mother with that mouth!
PackMecEng (
talk) 01:25, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- PackMecEng, could you stop with the personal attacks and keep your extremist, cultist beliefs to yourself? Thank you in advance. My comments are not addressed to you, unless this is your alternate account?
Viriditas (
talk) 01:24, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
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Viriditas, Barack Obama is more of a New Democrat Coalition. The NDC is a center-left organization. Also, in conservative countries such as East Asia, the rights of immigrants, LGBT, and autistic people are not fully accepted. The Democratic Party of the United States belongs to the left-wing
Progressive Alliance.--
Storm598 (
talk) 01:31, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Which center-left policies did Obama personally succeed in passing during his administration?
Viriditas (
talk) 01:39, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Same-sex marriage was legalized by the Liberal Supreme Court in 2015. On the other hand, Merkel in Germany opposed same-sex marriage. The world is still full of social conservative dung and absurdity. Obama also expanded overtime pay recipients and introduced paid sick leave. Since the 1980s, the company has tried to balance labor-management relations, which have been apparently driven by users. South Korea's anti-U.S. left-wing journalist Hankyoreh also praised Obama's labor reform as a policy for 99 percent, criticizing his South Korea's labor oppression and pro-business-oriented political forces. # -- Storm598 ( talk) 01:49, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Which center-left policies did Obama personally succeed in passing during his administration?
Viriditas (
talk) 01:39, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- I just want to point out that you said above that same-sex marriage was legalized by a "liberal" Supreme Court, when in fact the court was split down the middle at the time, and the majority opinion was authored by Justice Anthony Kennedy, a right-leaning libertarian/conservative. Again, you are repeating this black and white, Fox News-like, religiously-motivated meme that anyone who supports LGBT is somewhow left of center. This isn't true. The left-right political spectrum changes over time, with some issues going from left to right and others going from right to left. The fact that minority groups are given the same rights as majority groups under the law is a principle that both the left and the right uphold when it is convenient for them to do so. Viriditas ( talk) 02:18, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
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- Thank you so much for saying that.-- Storm598 ( talk) 23:32, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Came here to say the same thing. Please take care of yourself. Viriditas ( talk) 19:24, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
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- I'll do that from now on. Thank you for the information.-- Storm598 ( talk) 12:12, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi Storm598, I noticed your comments on my talk page. Please remain civil in content discussions. Also, with regards to the PDP article, I don't think it's proper to remove "center-left"(중도좌파) from the infobox when there are multiple reliable sources calling the party "center-left". [1] [2] [3] There need to be sources that explicitly state that the PDP is not center-left before we can remove it from that article. (Otherwise, claiming that the PDP cannot be center-left because it is socially conservative would constitute WP:SYNTH.) Ezhao02 ( talk) 13:24, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
- Then, we will first recover the phrase "centre-left". However, local media in South Korea have not seen what PDP is described as "centre-left." Also, the PDP is not described as a social liberal party. In addition, Lee Sang-don, who was not a party member but influenced the party, is described as a conservative or conservative liberal in South Korea. I think "center-left" and "conservative liberalism" contradict each other. (In particular, Lee Sang-don is classified as a liberal in South Korea, but "liberalism" in South Korea does not mean it is used in the United States. Lee Sang-don opposes traditional South Korean conservative-corporatist economic policies such as Park Chung-hee and Moon Jae In-style social-liberal economic policies, and is a supporter of American neoconservatism.) -- Storm598 ( talk) 13:57, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
- In addition, no matter how much I look at it, I can't see a policy in which the PDP actually took a centre-left position. Unlike DPK, PDP is much more conservative both fiscially and socially.-- Storm598 ( talk) 13:57, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
- I'm South Korean, but you're American, so I'll use expressions that are easy for you to understand. The description of the Democratic Peace Party as a center-left is similar to the description of the West Virginia Democratic Party or Joseph Manchin III as a center-left. Just as the "South Korean perspective" is not important in dealing with American politics, the "American perspective" is not important at all in dealing with South Korean politics. I have never seen this political party described in Korean as centre-left(중도좌파) in South Korean local media.-- Storm598 ( talk) 14:04, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
References
Hi, which Donald Cameron did you mean on Template:Conservatism in the United Kingdom - or did you mean David Cameron? DuncanHill ( talk) 23:14, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
- I mean David Cameron. I made a typo.--
Storm598 (
talk) 23:16, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
- No problem, thanks. DuncanHill ( talk) 23:17, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
Can you make the Page People Power Party an English Ideology page copied to the Korean Wikipedia page, This will Koreans be trusted on English Page? Maybe? Rodionov Erel ( talk) 18:55, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose - I object to changing it to what is written in the "국민의힘" article on the Korean Wikipedia page. South Koreans actually don't trust Korean Wikipedia more than Namuwiki. In particular, the Korean Wikipedia is not objective because "국민의힘" supporters and "더불어민주당" supporters frequently cause editorial disputes.-- Storm598 ( talk) 23:02, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
- In particular, Namuwiki users tend to trust and refer to English Wikipedia much more than Korean Wikipedia related to South Korean politics. (Namuwiki is the most popular Korean language wiki in South Korea.) The ideology of PPP and DPK articles should be maintained as it is now. Korean Wikipedia does not properly reflect South Korean politics.--
Storm598 (
talk) 23:14, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
- Of course, Namuwiki also has its own "bias", and unlike South Korean politics, articles related to U.S. politics are severely distorted, so they are not as reliable as articles related to South Korean politics in the Korean Wikipedia. Because they are disillusioned with South Korean politics, they tend to glorify American politics as ideal and progressive. (South Korean politics is different from American politics, but at the same time, there are many similarities, so many South Koreans seem to be very interested in American politics.) [1]-- Storm598 ( talk) 23:46, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
- I don't know North American or Chinese politics, but I know South Korean, Japanese, and Western European politics very well because I read a lot of related materials and books. I don't think we should copy the Korean Wikipedia in articles related to South Korean politics. In particular, please note that South Korea is one of the countries with the most political conflicts in the world. [2]-- Storm598 ( talk) 23:35, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
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- ^ In fact, there are tons of articles related to American politics on Namuwiki as if they were their own politics. Example: New Democrats, Moderatism (in the context of American politics), Congressional Progressive Caucus, Second Amendment Caucus, Rockefeller Republicans, Liberalism in the United States, Modern liberalism (in the context of American politics), New Nationalism, Conservative Coalition, Jacksonian democracy, RINO, DINO, Southern Democrats, SJW, Alt-lite, Wingnut, Moonbat, Voter Suppression, etc. These articles are not even found in the Korean Wikipedia.
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"Diversity and Division in Advanced Economies".
Pew Research Centre. 13 October 2021. Retrieved 14 November 2021.
In the U.S. and South Korea, 90% say there are at least strong conflicts between those who support different parties – including around half or more in each country who say these conflicts are very strong.
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about the revert you did on my edit in the page: /info/en/?search=Mohammad_Mosaddegh hi, what is wrong with you? in the same page, whatever evil deed the american and british government had done, against the Iranian's freedom and country, it called it pessimist of Iranians!(line 253) and yet in the same page again, mentioned that the cia later confirmed the us-brit allegation(line 102) on overthrow(you call it over throw and it was a "coup" in fact!) of Mossadegh! what kind of Contradictory is this? yet you revert my edit, because I wrote the truth about americans? you think lying in such a little website will change the truth? oh you people are always talk about your freedom of speech and truth telling yet you accuse a patriot Iranian, of being communism, and no reason you have for it! and even if Mossadegh was commi, still it is far more better than being a american puppet like mohammad reza pahlavi... .--M.Aghshal (talk) 09:04, 16 December 2021 (UTC)-- M.Aghshal ( talk) 09:17, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
- I'm sorry. I didn't read the text properly. Rather, I perceived it the other way around. I thought you did a description disparaging Mossadegh, so I returned it. Mossadegh is a hero of liberalism, and paradoxically, anti-communist liberals in the United States joined hands with Iran's right-wing royalists to completely destroy Iran's self-sustaining liberal forces.-- Storm598 ( talk) 09:21, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
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"Economic liberalism" means laissez-faire, Christian democracy in the United States would be considered "left-wing" because it is "social right": economically, Christian democracy is center-left. In any case, speaking of liberalism, ordoliberalism is a form of social liberalism (it is also included in the article " social liberalism"). Conservative liberalism corresponds more to a position like American conservatism. -- RVD3 ( talk) 02:15, 31 December 2021 (UTC)RVD3
- American politics and European politics are very very different, so you don't have to consider it. Milton Friedman, for example, took a very active stance on LGBT human rights during his lifetime. On the other hand, Ordoliberals are basically moderate social conservatives.-- Storm598 ( talk) 02:21, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- # I fully explained this part in a conservative liberal article. I don't know much about American politics, but I'm an expert on European politics. Ordoliberalism is never social liberalism.-- Storm598 ( talk) 02:38, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- As a minority living in Asia, to be honest, I think North America is more culturally advanced than Europe. Progressive discourses based on American identity politics and social justice are also radically recognized by the European center-left. Asians face more severe racism and social structural violence in Europe than in the United States. So South Koreans perceive the United States as more progressive and left-wing than Europe.-- Storm598 ( talk) 02:40, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
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Above you wrote "I don't know much about American politics, but I'm an expert on European politics.". While I certainly agree with the first statement, I'd like to know what your qualifications are for declaring yourself to be an "expert on European politics". Reading Korean blogs is not a sufficient background to be considered an expert. What degrees do you hold? What is the background and education that qualifies you to be an "expert"? Do you believe that your opinion alone is sufficient to reliably source information?
Please elucidate. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 03:14, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- I think I expressed it wrong. This means that I have been exposed to a lot of books and materials related to European politics, and I know a lot of European politics. -- Storm598 ( talk) 05:13, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
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- The edit is not vandalism. Because the official name of Taiwan is the Republic of China. Therefore, the Chinese nationalist party should be marked as the "Republic of China" and the Taiwanese nationalist party as "Taiwan".-- Storm598 ( talk) 02:50, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
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- It's ridiculous and absurd. The TPP and KMT documents against Taiwan's independence also describe the political infobox as "Politics of the Republic of China," not as "Politics of Taiwan." So, can I change the "Politics of the Republic of China" section of the KMT and TPP documents to "Politics of Taiwan"? I was only trying to unify the standards because the standards themselves were jagged in the first place.-- Storm598 ( talk) 03:23, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I don't know if you checked the talk page but following more research I happen to agree with your assessments, though I think an edit note might go a long way: a lot of people see Taiwan get replaced by something with China and panic (Province of PRC, etc.). Let me know what I can do to help/if you want to discuss further on standardization of Taiwan politics related articles; if we're doing one, we might as well do them all. Halfadaniel ( talk) 05:35, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
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May I ask why you removed all categories from a bunch of political parties and decided to nest those categories inside some... other shell category? This does not seem to be standard practice but maybe I'm wrong. DrIdiot ( talk) 04:59, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
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- Oh, I moved because I thought the categories were overlapping, was it my fault?--
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- It's a bit confusing to me too, but I think what has been done is that "DPP article" now has its own category (the "DPP category"), and the DPP category is inside a bunch of other categories. However, this isn't transitive -- i.e. the previous other categories that the DPP article belonged to no longer show up on the article page. I think it's best if those categories remain so readers can click on them directly (and this seems to be the practice elsewhere, e.g. on the Democratic Party of USA page, which is pretty well-trafficked so I'd trust it as a standard). If you agree, would you mind changing back other instances where you've done this? DrIdiot ( talk) 10:10, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
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- I've never done disruptive editing. Please participate in the Talk first and decide.-- Storm598 ( talk) 16:37, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Wikipedia must remain neutral. However, 'Category:Anti-Japanese sentiment' classification in documents related to Korea is being applied to the extent that it is against NPOV. However, in documents related to Japan, 'Category:Anti-Korean Sentiment' applies only to very few documents. If you look at the documents that were previously classified as Category: Anti-Japanese Sentiment, I think they are often from no source or objective.-- Storm598 ( talk) 00:27, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Why are you removing this category from articles for which it is obviously appropriate? I see that many of your edits doing this have been reverted. When you look at your contributions page and see edit after edit has been reverted by other editors, you should be taking in the message that your editing is not improving Wikipedia.
The same goes for your edits to political parties. They are in large part not supported by the articles. ALL CATEGORIES MUST BE SUPPORTED BY INFORMATION IN THE ARTICLE. I will be reverting many of these as well.
Your talk page does not exactly show a lot of productive editing in the 3 months you've been here, exactly the opposite I would suggest that you re-evaluate your editing. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 01:03, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Compared to documents classified as "Category: Anti-Korean Sentiment in Japan", there are many documents that seem to be classified unfairly. And it was classified as "Category:Anti-Korean Sentiment in Japan," which is not one or two documents deleted by Japanese wiki users. However, why is "Category: Anti-Japanese Sentiment in Korea" being overissued only in documents related to Korea? For example, is there any objective reason to call it Anti-Japanese just because Koreans drew a movie that resisted the Japanese Empire during the colonial period?-- Storm598 ( talk) 01:12, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- And the standard of 'productive editing' itself is unclear. I've just focused on correcting misinformation or inappropriate editing within Wikipedia.--
Storm598 (
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- Yes, a movie which shows Korean struggles to throw off their Japanese rulers is an instance of "Anti-Japanese sentiment in Korea," most definitely.
Beyond My Ken (
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- No. That's ridiculous. Mahatma Gandhi resisted the British, so is it Anti-British sentimental in India?--
Storm598 (
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- Yes. You're trying to say that Gandhi's campaign for the liberation of India from British rule was NOT an example of anti-British sentiment? That's an utterly ridiculous position.
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- If you think about it backwards, is it racism that resists imperialism? Typically, the 'anti-○○○ sentimental' category is attached to racists, with racism in the parent category. (Imperialism here refers to imperialism in the classical sense.)--
Storm598 (
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- It is both sociological AND political - the category doesn't specify whether "Japanese" in "Anti-Japanese sentiment" is referring to the nation of Japan or the Japanese ethnicity, so we have to take it as being both, which is especially appropriate given the concerns among the Japanese to keep their society as mono-ethnic as possible. In any case your Gandhi comparison falls down, because "British" is not an ethnicity, it's a nationality encompassing English people, Scots people, Welsh people and Irish people, as well as many other ethnicities, so the "Anti-XXXX sentiment" categories are clearly NOT about entnicity alone, as you're claiming. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 01:36, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- If you think about it backwards, is it racism that resists imperialism? Typically, the 'anti-○○○ sentimental' category is attached to racists, with racism in the parent category. (Imperialism here refers to imperialism in the classical sense.)--
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- Yes. You're trying to say that Gandhi's campaign for the liberation of India from British rule was NOT an example of anti-British sentiment? That's an utterly ridiculous position.
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- No. That's ridiculous. Mahatma Gandhi resisted the British, so is it Anti-British sentimental in India?--
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- "Productive editing" means editing in such a way that Wikipedia is improved. I -- and apparently many other editors -- have not found your edits to have been improvements. I am currently engaged in revertiing those in subject areas I know something about, but there remains many others, and I have it in mind to post on
WP:AN a request for other editors to explore your edits in other areas and revert those which are not improvements.
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- Contrary to what you wrote above, the placement of the above category on appropriate articles is not an instance of violating NPOV. It seems, rather, that you are editing from a personal PoV, which explains why a multitude of other editors have reverted so many of your edits. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 01:36, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, a movie which shows Korean struggles to throw off their Japanese rulers is an instance of "Anti-Japanese sentiment in Korea," most definitely.
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- Pleas take note of a comment on that discussion which says that "They [meaning you] aren't under any sanction, but they are under discussion at a admin noticeboard so retiring this account and starting a new one would not be permitted under WP:CLEANSTART." What that means is that you cannot "retire" and open a new account. If you wish to keep editing, you need to use this account. If it is discovered that you went ahead and made a new account anyway, it's likely that you would be blocked from editing. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 01:05, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
...therefore your edits adding the "proto-feminist" category to multiple articles are being rolled back. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 05:29, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
I just wanted to drop you a note to let you know that you are banned from posting comments on my talk page, unless, of course, you are required to by Wikipedia policy. If you are required to post a notice on my talk page, please clearly indicate in the edit summary what policy you are doing so under. Any other posted comments will be deleted without being read.
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Two weeks after saying you were imposing a 3 month block on yourself, you edited again. Are you incapable of doing what you said you would do? Should I nominate you for a formal three month block? Beyond My Ken ( talk) 00:33, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- You are not editing American political documents. What's the problem? If you're so unhappy, I won't edit it for three months.--
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- That's what you already promised to do. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 13:08, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Your three months is NOT up. In any case I have reverted your changes to Republican Governance Group, as you have -- once again -- shown that you do not understand American politics. By the classical definition, almost ALL American politicians are "liberals", however by the AMERICAN definition, there are NO liberals in the modern Republican party, the range of views runs from moderate to deeply conservative.Please stop tinkering with American political articles as you have repeatedly shown that you do not grasp its fundamental concepts, and the Korean blog you rely on for information is misinforming you. If you continue, I will once again have to bring your behavior up on the noticeboards. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 10:33, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Don't be ridiculous. You're the one who wrote the POV description on the Blue Dog Coalition page, changing what was written as "center left to center right" to "center to center-right with right-wing factions". And that description was returned by others. You are maliciously accusing me. I fully understand American politics. It's you who understand American politics 'biased'.-- Storm598 ( talk) 11:06, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- And you talk about Korean blog, and I have never quoted Korean blog in English Wikipedia. You've been maliciously criticizing me for a long time for referring to Namuwiki as a reference case, not as a source.-- Storm598 ( talk) 11:08, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- A user named Beyond My Ken reiterates the POV view. However, You can threatening to post it on the Administrators' noticeboard, saying that I do not understand American politics. Of course, there may be some parts of the American political document that I do not understand. However, there is no source for the Republican Governance Group to regard as a typical conservative organization.-- Storm598 ( talk) 12:27, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- It is also a very European political standard that there is no liberal in the Republican Party in modern America. Right now, the Democratic Party of Korea's social and cultural policy is much more social conservative than the moderate in the U.S. Republican Party. What is clear is that the Republican Governance Group is clearly referred to as "moderate" or "liberal" in reliable sources. -- Storm598 ( talk) 12:27, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
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Better be careful. If you disagree with Acroterion then Bradv might block you then run away when you ask them to justify it. Just ignore them, it is unproductive to do otherwise. PackMecEng ( talk) 01:01, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Especially culturally, Barack Obama has been active in pro-immigration, pro-LGBT and autistic rights issues.
There is nothing liberal or "left" about a politician that is pro-immigration, pro-LGBT, or pro-autistic rights in the US. This is a common misperception about American politics. While it is true that some of these ideas might have been confined to the left many years ago, it no longer has any bearing on the left-right dynamic. The US is a nation of immigrants based on pioneers who were immigrants themselves. The extreme notion that someone can be against immigration and yet still call themselves an American is a misnomer. Again, you are citing extremist, minority, religious positions as some kind of metric for determining who is left or right. Today in the US, one can be pro-LGBT and still be a right-wing conservative. Same for autistic rights. If a politician declares they are against immigration in the US, then they are anti-American. If they say they are anti-LGBT and anti-autistic rights, then they are against democracy and human rights and equal treatment under the law. None of this has to do with being left or right. Viriditas ( talk) 01:21, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
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Viriditas,
The US is a nation of immigrants based on pioneers who were immigrants themselves. The extreme notion that someone can be against immigration and yet still call themselves an American is a misnomer.
&If a politician declares they are against immigration in the US, then they are anti-American.
You keep talking crazy talk while providing no evidence or sources. Please stop. Please. PackMecEng ( talk) 01:22, 31 May 2021 (UTC)- PackMecEng, could you stop with the personal attacks and keep your extremist, cultist beliefs to yourself? Thank you in advance. My comments are not addressed to you, unless this is your alternate account?
Viriditas (
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Viriditas, Now I am an extremist and a cultist? Wow and you kiss your mother with that mouth!
PackMecEng (
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- Last time: unless this is your alternate account, stop following me around and interfering with things you don't have any knowledge about. I'm sure there's a Donald Trump-related article that needs whitewashing.
Viriditas (
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- Barack Obama is not considered a center-right in the American political context. Moderate social liberals like Obama are considered center-right in very few areas, including northern Europe and France. In South Korea, not only the far right but also the center-right are extremely opposed to homosexuality itself. Donald Trump, on the other hand, is an far-right in the political context of the United States, but has not openly opposed homosexuality.--
Storm598 (
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- In the US, opposition to homosexuality arises from the Christian evangelical movement, a religious policy position that the right has adopted for votes, not because they are ideologically aligned with it due to the right side of the spectrum. In fact their political ideology supports limited government intervention and more personal freedom for individuals, indicating support for sexual preference. Do you understand now why this is not a political position? In other words, one can be on the right and support homosexuality. Viriditas ( talk) 01:43, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Viriditas, Bro. Look at the section right above this one. I was here first, wtf are you talking about following you around!? Also quit with the childish personal attacks. I am embarrassed for you at this point. PackMecEng ( talk) 01:32, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Barack Obama is not considered a center-right in the American political context. Moderate social liberals like Obama are considered center-right in very few areas, including northern Europe and France. In South Korea, not only the far right but also the center-right are extremely opposed to homosexuality itself. Donald Trump, on the other hand, is an far-right in the political context of the United States, but has not openly opposed homosexuality.--
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- Last time: unless this is your alternate account, stop following me around and interfering with things you don't have any knowledge about. I'm sure there's a Donald Trump-related article that needs whitewashing.
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Viriditas, Now I am an extremist and a cultist? Wow and you kiss your mother with that mouth!
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- PackMecEng, could you stop with the personal attacks and keep your extremist, cultist beliefs to yourself? Thank you in advance. My comments are not addressed to you, unless this is your alternate account?
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Viriditas, Barack Obama is more of a New Democrat Coalition. The NDC is a center-left organization. Also, in conservative countries such as East Asia, the rights of immigrants, LGBT, and autistic people are not fully accepted. The Democratic Party of the United States belongs to the left-wing
Progressive Alliance.--
Storm598 (
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- Which center-left policies did Obama personally succeed in passing during his administration?
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- Same-sex marriage was legalized by the Liberal Supreme Court in 2015. On the other hand, Merkel in Germany opposed same-sex marriage. The world is still full of social conservative dung and absurdity. Obama also expanded overtime pay recipients and introduced paid sick leave. Since the 1980s, the company has tried to balance labor-management relations, which have been apparently driven by users. South Korea's anti-U.S. left-wing journalist Hankyoreh also praised Obama's labor reform as a policy for 99 percent, criticizing his South Korea's labor oppression and pro-business-oriented political forces. # -- Storm598 ( talk) 01:49, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Which center-left policies did Obama personally succeed in passing during his administration?
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- I just want to point out that you said above that same-sex marriage was legalized by a "liberal" Supreme Court, when in fact the court was split down the middle at the time, and the majority opinion was authored by Justice Anthony Kennedy, a right-leaning libertarian/conservative. Again, you are repeating this black and white, Fox News-like, religiously-motivated meme that anyone who supports LGBT is somewhow left of center. This isn't true. The left-right political spectrum changes over time, with some issues going from left to right and others going from right to left. The fact that minority groups are given the same rights as majority groups under the law is a principle that both the left and the right uphold when it is convenient for them to do so. Viriditas ( talk) 02:18, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
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- Thank you so much for saying that.-- Storm598 ( talk) 23:32, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Came here to say the same thing. Please take care of yourself. Viriditas ( talk) 19:24, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
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- I'll do that from now on. Thank you for the information.-- Storm598 ( talk) 12:12, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi Storm598, I noticed your comments on my talk page. Please remain civil in content discussions. Also, with regards to the PDP article, I don't think it's proper to remove "center-left"(중도좌파) from the infobox when there are multiple reliable sources calling the party "center-left". [1] [2] [3] There need to be sources that explicitly state that the PDP is not center-left before we can remove it from that article. (Otherwise, claiming that the PDP cannot be center-left because it is socially conservative would constitute WP:SYNTH.) Ezhao02 ( talk) 13:24, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
- Then, we will first recover the phrase "centre-left". However, local media in South Korea have not seen what PDP is described as "centre-left." Also, the PDP is not described as a social liberal party. In addition, Lee Sang-don, who was not a party member but influenced the party, is described as a conservative or conservative liberal in South Korea. I think "center-left" and "conservative liberalism" contradict each other. (In particular, Lee Sang-don is classified as a liberal in South Korea, but "liberalism" in South Korea does not mean it is used in the United States. Lee Sang-don opposes traditional South Korean conservative-corporatist economic policies such as Park Chung-hee and Moon Jae In-style social-liberal economic policies, and is a supporter of American neoconservatism.) -- Storm598 ( talk) 13:57, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
- In addition, no matter how much I look at it, I can't see a policy in which the PDP actually took a centre-left position. Unlike DPK, PDP is much more conservative both fiscially and socially.-- Storm598 ( talk) 13:57, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
- I'm South Korean, but you're American, so I'll use expressions that are easy for you to understand. The description of the Democratic Peace Party as a center-left is similar to the description of the West Virginia Democratic Party or Joseph Manchin III as a center-left. Just as the "South Korean perspective" is not important in dealing with American politics, the "American perspective" is not important at all in dealing with South Korean politics. I have never seen this political party described in Korean as centre-left(중도좌파) in South Korean local media.-- Storm598 ( talk) 14:04, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
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Hi, which Donald Cameron did you mean on Template:Conservatism in the United Kingdom - or did you mean David Cameron? DuncanHill ( talk) 23:14, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
- I mean David Cameron. I made a typo.--
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- No problem, thanks. DuncanHill ( talk) 23:17, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
Can you make the Page People Power Party an English Ideology page copied to the Korean Wikipedia page, This will Koreans be trusted on English Page? Maybe? Rodionov Erel ( talk) 18:55, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose - I object to changing it to what is written in the "국민의힘" article on the Korean Wikipedia page. South Koreans actually don't trust Korean Wikipedia more than Namuwiki. In particular, the Korean Wikipedia is not objective because "국민의힘" supporters and "더불어민주당" supporters frequently cause editorial disputes.-- Storm598 ( talk) 23:02, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
- In particular, Namuwiki users tend to trust and refer to English Wikipedia much more than Korean Wikipedia related to South Korean politics. (Namuwiki is the most popular Korean language wiki in South Korea.) The ideology of PPP and DPK articles should be maintained as it is now. Korean Wikipedia does not properly reflect South Korean politics.--
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- Of course, Namuwiki also has its own "bias", and unlike South Korean politics, articles related to U.S. politics are severely distorted, so they are not as reliable as articles related to South Korean politics in the Korean Wikipedia. Because they are disillusioned with South Korean politics, they tend to glorify American politics as ideal and progressive. (South Korean politics is different from American politics, but at the same time, there are many similarities, so many South Koreans seem to be very interested in American politics.) [1]-- Storm598 ( talk) 23:46, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
- I don't know North American or Chinese politics, but I know South Korean, Japanese, and Western European politics very well because I read a lot of related materials and books. I don't think we should copy the Korean Wikipedia in articles related to South Korean politics. In particular, please note that South Korea is one of the countries with the most political conflicts in the world. [2]-- Storm598 ( talk) 23:35, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
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- ^ In fact, there are tons of articles related to American politics on Namuwiki as if they were their own politics. Example: New Democrats, Moderatism (in the context of American politics), Congressional Progressive Caucus, Second Amendment Caucus, Rockefeller Republicans, Liberalism in the United States, Modern liberalism (in the context of American politics), New Nationalism, Conservative Coalition, Jacksonian democracy, RINO, DINO, Southern Democrats, SJW, Alt-lite, Wingnut, Moonbat, Voter Suppression, etc. These articles are not even found in the Korean Wikipedia.
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"Diversity and Division in Advanced Economies".
Pew Research Centre. 13 October 2021. Retrieved 14 November 2021.
In the U.S. and South Korea, 90% say there are at least strong conflicts between those who support different parties – including around half or more in each country who say these conflicts are very strong.
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- I'm sorry. I didn't read the text properly. Rather, I perceived it the other way around. I thought you did a description disparaging Mossadegh, so I returned it. Mossadegh is a hero of liberalism, and paradoxically, anti-communist liberals in the United States joined hands with Iran's right-wing royalists to completely destroy Iran's self-sustaining liberal forces.-- Storm598 ( talk) 09:21, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
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- American politics and European politics are very very different, so you don't have to consider it. Milton Friedman, for example, took a very active stance on LGBT human rights during his lifetime. On the other hand, Ordoliberals are basically moderate social conservatives.-- Storm598 ( talk) 02:21, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- # I fully explained this part in a conservative liberal article. I don't know much about American politics, but I'm an expert on European politics. Ordoliberalism is never social liberalism.-- Storm598 ( talk) 02:38, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- As a minority living in Asia, to be honest, I think North America is more culturally advanced than Europe. Progressive discourses based on American identity politics and social justice are also radically recognized by the European center-left. Asians face more severe racism and social structural violence in Europe than in the United States. So South Koreans perceive the United States as more progressive and left-wing than Europe.-- Storm598 ( talk) 02:40, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
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Above you wrote "I don't know much about American politics, but I'm an expert on European politics.". While I certainly agree with the first statement, I'd like to know what your qualifications are for declaring yourself to be an "expert on European politics". Reading Korean blogs is not a sufficient background to be considered an expert. What degrees do you hold? What is the background and education that qualifies you to be an "expert"? Do you believe that your opinion alone is sufficient to reliably source information?
Please elucidate. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 03:14, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- I think I expressed it wrong. This means that I have been exposed to a lot of books and materials related to European politics, and I know a lot of European politics. -- Storm598 ( talk) 05:13, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
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