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Hello, I'd like to know your position on this article and whether it's notable enough to be put up yet. I have started a discussion on its talk page, but I don't think its creator is interested.
I'm not asking for any action on your part, but I am interested in your opinion. ServiceGhost ( talk) 19:27, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I see your comment at ANI, telling me and Canoe to both "simmer down". My first reaction to reading it was not a good one. There's a reason that administrators are instructed not to issue "cool-down" blocks, and the same idea really applies here. I'm an experienced editor with a good track record, and I don't need to be lectured in that tone.
Now, that said, I really have never been particularly upset in any of this, now or earlier. The primary reason that I kept re-posting what I said about what I believe was needed from administrators, was that administrators were not doing anything. It is, after all, an administrators' noticeboard. It's not unreasonable for editors who come to ANI (and I wasn't the person who started the complaints) to expect a response from administrators. I very much recognized that there were overwhelming problems with TL;DR, so I actually thought that I was being helpful by trying to boil things down to something succinct, even though that ultimately did not prove successful. I wasn't doing any of that in anger. I was trying to help the editors who had come to ANI asking for help. And actually, in earlier parts of the discussion, it appeared to me that you recognized some value in what I said, in relation to what you had previously communicated to Canoe.
Going forward, I hope that you will understand what I am saying about not telling other editors to calm down. I really do mean it constructively. -- Tryptofish ( talk) 21:55, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
I've tried to tell the IP that his behavior is disruptive and childish and he refuses to listen. He's currently edit warring on Karl Riedl. I've basically given a final warning in the summary in the last revert, and he's already reverted it. -- ThomasO1989 ( talk) 17:18, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Reblocked. Thanks. Sergecross73 msg me 21:48, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Bummer. Related to this ANI. Jytdog ( talk) 16:10, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Sorry for snooping your userpage but I started a project to may be interested in. Wikipedia:Cosplay images in articles. We are presently having a discussion at Talk:World_of_Warcraft#Calgary_Expo_pic. I am hoping that these discussions can be avoided and/or shortened by a minor addition to the image guidelines. So far there are only two of us still discussing the proposal on its talk page.-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 19:49, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
You have yet to answer my questions? Why is a health recall in the environmental section when all of the sources say it was a health issue and none state environmental? Why is notable sourced material removed without discussion? Why does an article about controversies contain so much fluff that is not controversial and biased to one side of the controversy? Why don't you answer my questions before I answer anymore of yours?-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 04:23, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
I don't have the time to help with this one at the moment, but here's how I'd start handling things. Both of you should concentrate less on the other, and more on the content. Comment on content, not editors. Beyond that, there's many ways to handle things if discussions keep on deadlocking between the same 2 people. It includes:
You guys have to do something rather than drilling in the same arguments and accusations though, or otherwise things will keep escalating, and one or both of you are likely to get blocked. (That's not a threat, I'm WP:INVOLVED so I'm unlikely to block you guys. I'm just saying you guys keep escalating and surely you're going to either break policy when getting carried away, or upset an Admin with all your arguing.) Sergecross73 msg me 20:55, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello, Sergecross. How's it been going? I wanted to let you know that I'm going to be retiring from editing this website quite soon. I still think Wikipiedia is awesome, but I need to focus on other areas of my life. In the meantime, I'll give you some cookies and a barnstar. I appreciated working with you back in 2012; take it easy.
Here's a plate full of cookies to share! | |
Hi Sergecross73/Archive 13, here are some delicious cookies to help brighten your day! However, there are too many cookies here for one person to eat all at once, so please share these cookies with at least two other editors by copying {{ subst:Sharethecookies}} to their talk pages. Enjoy! Mungo Kitsch ( talk) 00:12, 25 August 2013 (UTC) |
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Thanks for keeping it real around Wikipedia. Mungo Kitsch ( talk) 00:12, 25 August 2013 (UTC) |
Mungo Kitsch ( talk) 00:12, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
70.112.26.202 is this guy-- this edit shows him adding a fake "Winx Infinity: Dance Party 101" article and he keeps adding fake dates to Mario Kart 8. -- ThomasO1989 ( talk) 23:47, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Hate digging this up, but I'm in the middle of a long Wiki break but came back (shouldn't have) and noticed this edit [ [1]]. What has flagged this for me is that User:Abnormally cold and User:Hook free have made identical edits. Hook free has been blocked for being User:The abominable Wiki troll who has a rather long list of confirmed sockpuppets. As I point out in June [2] this user is part of a larger number of identical accounts (he claimeed as "fellow student(s) with similar interests). Clearly this is one person evading a block. I don't want to come back and become embroiled in a WP:SPI, so I'll let you take it from here. Thanks. Yankees76 Talk 14:38, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the page delete. I suspect that you should delete this one too, just as a clean-up. -- Tryptofish ( talk) 20:29, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
If you have the stomach for continuing your mediation of this dispute, could you please look in on the discussion at Talk:Genetically modified food controversies#Editing down GM wheat section, and particularly what I said here: [3]. Thanks. -- Tryptofish ( talk) 20:26, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
The discussion on XBox One obviously isn't going anywhere. Think it's time to consider a Request for Comment? -- ThomasO1989 ( talk) 19:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
McDoob AU93 03:54, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
I formally request you to stop hounding every situation that you come across relating to me. Everything that you have done is based off of isolated events, which is why i'm banned from anime and manga (a wiki project you never go to) and ignored all evidence i provided.
Yes, i do believe it was unjust. should i think otherwise? and is that reason enough to keep hounding me? FOr once, leave me alone. You're not a good admin, you're an abusive one. And i know most of the votes in the previous ANI are mostly based on your and lukeno94 (which i find ridiculous because that editor made it clear how bias he was when he said i "misread" a comment, which only one isolated event occured)
If i do get unbanned. it wouldn't affect you, it wouldn't affect any editors except for the problematic ones. so just stop hounding me. your opinion isn't valuable enough. Even if one would claim i didn't learn a thing from it (which i guarantee you, even after this ban, this had only caused more conflict than solve anything. In fact it seems like this is meant to be a freit train for permanent banning) Lucia Black ( talk) 03:34, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
Look, it's very simple. Im not hounding you, I merely have AN and ANI on my watch list, and make comments on cases I'm knowledgable about. Similar to what Salvidrim said, perhaps if you don't like it, you shouldn't be the subject of AN/ANI reports all the time? Also, as Salvidrim said, it'd help if you didn't always post on my talk page, or as DarkToonLink said, make ridiculous accusations of bad faith on my talk page. (I don't recall asking for your evaluation as an Admin, for example.)
Don't blame me for your problems, it's all on you, and how you interact with others. Don't get mad when everyone calls you on it. Make changes in how you handle yourself. Sergecross73 msg me 10:42, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
And I can easily prove what I brought up aswell. But if the roles were reversed and I (as an admin) sarcastically dismissed your comment (keep in mind, sarcasm is easy to read when using italics. So its not badfaith is that's what you intended), I'm sure you would react negatively. I can most certainly, definitely, and guarantee you that you don't know me. So I ask again, leave me alone in any subject related to ANI. You don't give insight and I have definite proof of that. But whose going to search tthrough the countless archives? I have the proof, but you seen it yourself. All I ask is you leave your opinions out of it. I already tolerate enough from you outside ANI. Lucia Black ( talk) 17:59, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
I think there's a good amount of sources for Mario Clash; I've found seven with more to add. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 09:21, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
Sorry that it's being brought up again but following on our last exchange in the Video Games Project page, the Total War: Rome II seems to be coming under fire again except this time with more than just user scores but also forum posts and heavy POV. While I've removed it and explained why I'm passing this information on just in case as you suggested before. There's always the possibility such edits will be ignored. Thank you again. Stabby Joe ( talk) 18:07, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
I did not insult you; that you took it to mean yourself only proves my point. This is not content, these are typos; it is completely uncontroversial to fix them, and there is absolutely nothing on the talk page about this problem. You have gone too far, Sergecross. Despatche ( talk) 04:02, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
Despatche, you wrote that "anyone who thinks that would have to be retarded", and I had just re-added that information into the article, so all you have to do is add 2 and 2 together to get your not-so-subtle insult. Even if you didn't mean it that way, there's no excuse for using "retarded" in a derogatory manner anyways. Also, it doesn't matter how "uncontroversal" you feel something is, if its challenged, you discuss it on the talk page. Kiefer, thank you for your help. Sergecross73 msg me 10:29, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
See the edit war for yourself. Without getting into the details of the dispute, I'd recommend protecting the page. Sincerely, TheTimesAreAChanging ( talk) 23:19, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi Sergecross. Wanted to ask if you could join in briefly on a discussion I'm having with Red Phoenix regarding the Sega Genesis article? Just want to get your opinion on something. Thanks. :) — KieferSkunk ( talk) — 06:24, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Reviving this just a bit: I never actually saw your reply to me here, but I wanted to let you know that we've achieved Good Article status on the current Genesis article, and there's a stronger contingent now for supporting a proper
WP:RM discussion about moving the article back to "Mega Drive", now that the article as a whole has changed. I've volunteered to start that discussion and to fully explain why I believe the situation is different now - the main reason being that we've addressed most of the issues that were contributing to the factionism we had in the first place (particularly the sales figures and NA-centrism problems). I will, of course, still abide by consensus, but I think we have a better basis for real productive discussion this time than we've had in years, perhaps at any time in the article's history. —
KieferSkunk (
talk) — 03:14, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
I know the current version of the "Sega-Sammy" template was created by me with your support, but I'm starting to think it was a terrible mistake. If I've lost my mind, please straighten me out. Thanks, TheTimesAreAChanging ( talk) 23:08, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 10 | Archive 11 | Archive 12 | Archive 13 | Archive 14 | Archive 15 | → | Archive 20 |
Hello, I'd like to know your position on this article and whether it's notable enough to be put up yet. I have started a discussion on its talk page, but I don't think its creator is interested.
I'm not asking for any action on your part, but I am interested in your opinion. ServiceGhost ( talk) 19:27, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I see your comment at ANI, telling me and Canoe to both "simmer down". My first reaction to reading it was not a good one. There's a reason that administrators are instructed not to issue "cool-down" blocks, and the same idea really applies here. I'm an experienced editor with a good track record, and I don't need to be lectured in that tone.
Now, that said, I really have never been particularly upset in any of this, now or earlier. The primary reason that I kept re-posting what I said about what I believe was needed from administrators, was that administrators were not doing anything. It is, after all, an administrators' noticeboard. It's not unreasonable for editors who come to ANI (and I wasn't the person who started the complaints) to expect a response from administrators. I very much recognized that there were overwhelming problems with TL;DR, so I actually thought that I was being helpful by trying to boil things down to something succinct, even though that ultimately did not prove successful. I wasn't doing any of that in anger. I was trying to help the editors who had come to ANI asking for help. And actually, in earlier parts of the discussion, it appeared to me that you recognized some value in what I said, in relation to what you had previously communicated to Canoe.
Going forward, I hope that you will understand what I am saying about not telling other editors to calm down. I really do mean it constructively. -- Tryptofish ( talk) 21:55, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
I've tried to tell the IP that his behavior is disruptive and childish and he refuses to listen. He's currently edit warring on Karl Riedl. I've basically given a final warning in the summary in the last revert, and he's already reverted it. -- ThomasO1989 ( talk) 17:18, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Reblocked. Thanks. Sergecross73 msg me 21:48, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Bummer. Related to this ANI. Jytdog ( talk) 16:10, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Sorry for snooping your userpage but I started a project to may be interested in. Wikipedia:Cosplay images in articles. We are presently having a discussion at Talk:World_of_Warcraft#Calgary_Expo_pic. I am hoping that these discussions can be avoided and/or shortened by a minor addition to the image guidelines. So far there are only two of us still discussing the proposal on its talk page.-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 19:49, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
You have yet to answer my questions? Why is a health recall in the environmental section when all of the sources say it was a health issue and none state environmental? Why is notable sourced material removed without discussion? Why does an article about controversies contain so much fluff that is not controversial and biased to one side of the controversy? Why don't you answer my questions before I answer anymore of yours?-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 04:23, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
I don't have the time to help with this one at the moment, but here's how I'd start handling things. Both of you should concentrate less on the other, and more on the content. Comment on content, not editors. Beyond that, there's many ways to handle things if discussions keep on deadlocking between the same 2 people. It includes:
You guys have to do something rather than drilling in the same arguments and accusations though, or otherwise things will keep escalating, and one or both of you are likely to get blocked. (That's not a threat, I'm WP:INVOLVED so I'm unlikely to block you guys. I'm just saying you guys keep escalating and surely you're going to either break policy when getting carried away, or upset an Admin with all your arguing.) Sergecross73 msg me 20:55, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello, Sergecross. How's it been going? I wanted to let you know that I'm going to be retiring from editing this website quite soon. I still think Wikipiedia is awesome, but I need to focus on other areas of my life. In the meantime, I'll give you some cookies and a barnstar. I appreciated working with you back in 2012; take it easy.
Here's a plate full of cookies to share! | |
Hi Sergecross73/Archive 13, here are some delicious cookies to help brighten your day! However, there are too many cookies here for one person to eat all at once, so please share these cookies with at least two other editors by copying {{ subst:Sharethecookies}} to their talk pages. Enjoy! Mungo Kitsch ( talk) 00:12, 25 August 2013 (UTC) |
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar | ||
Thanks for keeping it real around Wikipedia. Mungo Kitsch ( talk) 00:12, 25 August 2013 (UTC) |
Mungo Kitsch ( talk) 00:12, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
70.112.26.202 is this guy-- this edit shows him adding a fake "Winx Infinity: Dance Party 101" article and he keeps adding fake dates to Mario Kart 8. -- ThomasO1989 ( talk) 23:47, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Hate digging this up, but I'm in the middle of a long Wiki break but came back (shouldn't have) and noticed this edit [ [1]]. What has flagged this for me is that User:Abnormally cold and User:Hook free have made identical edits. Hook free has been blocked for being User:The abominable Wiki troll who has a rather long list of confirmed sockpuppets. As I point out in June [2] this user is part of a larger number of identical accounts (he claimeed as "fellow student(s) with similar interests). Clearly this is one person evading a block. I don't want to come back and become embroiled in a WP:SPI, so I'll let you take it from here. Thanks. Yankees76 Talk 14:38, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the page delete. I suspect that you should delete this one too, just as a clean-up. -- Tryptofish ( talk) 20:29, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
If you have the stomach for continuing your mediation of this dispute, could you please look in on the discussion at Talk:Genetically modified food controversies#Editing down GM wheat section, and particularly what I said here: [3]. Thanks. -- Tryptofish ( talk) 20:26, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
The discussion on XBox One obviously isn't going anywhere. Think it's time to consider a Request for Comment? -- ThomasO1989 ( talk) 19:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
McDoob AU93 03:54, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
I formally request you to stop hounding every situation that you come across relating to me. Everything that you have done is based off of isolated events, which is why i'm banned from anime and manga (a wiki project you never go to) and ignored all evidence i provided.
Yes, i do believe it was unjust. should i think otherwise? and is that reason enough to keep hounding me? FOr once, leave me alone. You're not a good admin, you're an abusive one. And i know most of the votes in the previous ANI are mostly based on your and lukeno94 (which i find ridiculous because that editor made it clear how bias he was when he said i "misread" a comment, which only one isolated event occured)
If i do get unbanned. it wouldn't affect you, it wouldn't affect any editors except for the problematic ones. so just stop hounding me. your opinion isn't valuable enough. Even if one would claim i didn't learn a thing from it (which i guarantee you, even after this ban, this had only caused more conflict than solve anything. In fact it seems like this is meant to be a freit train for permanent banning) Lucia Black ( talk) 03:34, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
Look, it's very simple. Im not hounding you, I merely have AN and ANI on my watch list, and make comments on cases I'm knowledgable about. Similar to what Salvidrim said, perhaps if you don't like it, you shouldn't be the subject of AN/ANI reports all the time? Also, as Salvidrim said, it'd help if you didn't always post on my talk page, or as DarkToonLink said, make ridiculous accusations of bad faith on my talk page. (I don't recall asking for your evaluation as an Admin, for example.)
Don't blame me for your problems, it's all on you, and how you interact with others. Don't get mad when everyone calls you on it. Make changes in how you handle yourself. Sergecross73 msg me 10:42, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
And I can easily prove what I brought up aswell. But if the roles were reversed and I (as an admin) sarcastically dismissed your comment (keep in mind, sarcasm is easy to read when using italics. So its not badfaith is that's what you intended), I'm sure you would react negatively. I can most certainly, definitely, and guarantee you that you don't know me. So I ask again, leave me alone in any subject related to ANI. You don't give insight and I have definite proof of that. But whose going to search tthrough the countless archives? I have the proof, but you seen it yourself. All I ask is you leave your opinions out of it. I already tolerate enough from you outside ANI. Lucia Black ( talk) 17:59, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
I think there's a good amount of sources for Mario Clash; I've found seven with more to add. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 09:21, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
Sorry that it's being brought up again but following on our last exchange in the Video Games Project page, the Total War: Rome II seems to be coming under fire again except this time with more than just user scores but also forum posts and heavy POV. While I've removed it and explained why I'm passing this information on just in case as you suggested before. There's always the possibility such edits will be ignored. Thank you again. Stabby Joe ( talk) 18:07, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
I did not insult you; that you took it to mean yourself only proves my point. This is not content, these are typos; it is completely uncontroversial to fix them, and there is absolutely nothing on the talk page about this problem. You have gone too far, Sergecross. Despatche ( talk) 04:02, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
Despatche, you wrote that "anyone who thinks that would have to be retarded", and I had just re-added that information into the article, so all you have to do is add 2 and 2 together to get your not-so-subtle insult. Even if you didn't mean it that way, there's no excuse for using "retarded" in a derogatory manner anyways. Also, it doesn't matter how "uncontroversal" you feel something is, if its challenged, you discuss it on the talk page. Kiefer, thank you for your help. Sergecross73 msg me 10:29, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
See the edit war for yourself. Without getting into the details of the dispute, I'd recommend protecting the page. Sincerely, TheTimesAreAChanging ( talk) 23:19, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi Sergecross. Wanted to ask if you could join in briefly on a discussion I'm having with Red Phoenix regarding the Sega Genesis article? Just want to get your opinion on something. Thanks. :) — KieferSkunk ( talk) — 06:24, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Reviving this just a bit: I never actually saw your reply to me here, but I wanted to let you know that we've achieved Good Article status on the current Genesis article, and there's a stronger contingent now for supporting a proper
WP:RM discussion about moving the article back to "Mega Drive", now that the article as a whole has changed. I've volunteered to start that discussion and to fully explain why I believe the situation is different now - the main reason being that we've addressed most of the issues that were contributing to the factionism we had in the first place (particularly the sales figures and NA-centrism problems). I will, of course, still abide by consensus, but I think we have a better basis for real productive discussion this time than we've had in years, perhaps at any time in the article's history. —
KieferSkunk (
talk) — 03:14, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
I know the current version of the "Sega-Sammy" template was created by me with your support, but I'm starting to think it was a terrible mistake. If I've lost my mind, please straighten me out. Thanks, TheTimesAreAChanging ( talk) 23:08, 23 October 2013 (UTC)