June 2006

Good work on Ted Hayes. - Will Beback 16:22, 2 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Thanks! 8)-- Rockero 22:50, 2 June 2006 (UTC) reply

You might want to consider the deletion vote of Category:Kurdish inhabited regions. -- Cat out 11:49, 3 June 2006 (UTC) reply

hey rockero. we have a problem. Someone has moved the Great American Boycott to " Immigration reform protest". I tried to move it back, but it failed. I'm completely against this new name. Let's try to fix this, ok? dposse 00:24, 5 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Hey Rockero....i keep editing a page because some person or persons keep replacing the info with rumored info that has not been proven..—Preceding unsigned comment added by ChicanoJ ( talk • contribs)

It is the Mr. Capone-e page. i just changed it last night and had to change it again right now.—Preceding unsigned comment added by ChicanoJ ( talk • contribs)

GREAT job on the Capone-E page Rockero.—Preceding unsigned comment added by ChicanoJ ( talk • contribs)

Hi, I noticed that this is on your "to do" list but I think it already exists: Floyd Red Crow Westerman. Badagnani 05:45, 9 June 2006 (UTC) reply

De nada. You deserve it. Feel free to give the award to other editors who you think deserve it. -- JuanMuslim ^1m 02:09, 11 June 2006 (UTC) reply

I was going to add their logo, but they state that its use is prohibeted. The clause for using logos is that they are assumed to be free use, but it does not seem that the Mexica Movement's logo is free use. They state, "THIS IS A NOTICE THAT: No Individual or Organization Is Ever Authorized To Use Our Mexica Movement Flag". -- Dark Tichondrias

Hey Rockero, I noticed that you had re-directed Sisters of Loretto to the Sisters of Loreto page, but indeed, they are two separate and distinct orders, with the Sisters of Loreto being old and old-world, and the Sisters of Loretto being relatively new and arising out of the New World. http://www.lorettocommunity.org/history.html The Sisters of Loretto are totally deserving of their own article, as they were instrumental in early educational efforts in the New Mexico and Arizona territories. Anyway, hope all's well. Murcielago 19:56, 11 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Oh wow, I didn't know that. I'll delete the redirect and add it to my list. Thx, Batman.-- Rockero 19:58, 11 June 2006 (UTC) reply

In the mean time, I'll do a stub on their founder, Charles Nerinckx. He's listed in the Catholic Encyclopaedia, so with a few minutes on it I'll have it up. Murcielago 20:07, 11 June 2006 (UTC) reply

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Are you trying to excuse the Mayor? His actions and his press release concerning the South Central Farm are public, accurate and fact based.

Let me know if you think his actions in this matter should be whitewashed.-- Hank Chapot

I am in no way trying to excuse the mayor. I personally think he could have done much much more for the farm. But his public statements are no reflection of his popularity or reputation. To say that "his reputation took a hit" without providing a source is a POV statement.

If there was some news report or poll that showed that his reputation suffered, then it should go in. I'll see if I can find any criticsm of him for not supporting the farm.

Don't think I'm trying to whitewash the mayor's actions. I have been a contributor to the SCF article (see I am thanked on the talk?) and I have written extensively on Mexican American topics. Have I whitewashed any of their stories?

Please go back and reread Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy. It is one of Wikipedia's fundamental pillars. Better yet, find some published criticism of Villaraigosa, and include it in the mayor's article in the critic's words. That's how it works.

Thanks, Rockero

some one trashed the site, how do u revert a page?-- digital ronin

Why aren't all of the images in my gallery displaying correctly?-- Rockero 22:15, 14 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Hi, I'm not sure what exactly what you mean. They are all displaying correctly for me. -- Pilot| guy 22:22, 14 June 2006 (UTC) reply

You don't see three blank squres?-- Rockero 22:24, 14 June 2006 (UTC) reply

This is probably a sever error, where some images aren't displaying correctly. It is discussed at Village pump tech (in the faq and in questions below). You can purge the images a few times to fix it, or hopefully the problem will resolve itself. Example purge-- Commander Keane 22:24, 14 June 2006 (UTC) reply

CRLA is displaying now. I'm guessing purging the others will cause them to show up, too. Thanks, fellows.-- Rockero 22:26, 14 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Gracias por su bienvenida. De dónde son sus raices? Yo no soy Latino, pero he estudiado el espanol por muchos años. Escobar@gmail.com 20:37, 16 June 2006 (UTC) reply

No problem, I've had many kind folks revert vandalism to my page, so I'm always happy to return the favor. Cheers, OhNo itsJamie ^Talk 20:54, 16 June 2006 (UTC) reply

I was wondering if you were actually part of SCF or have been there recently, since you are in the category of wikipedians from SoCal. If so, you have my support (I actually have a friend down there who I haven't heard from since monday night, so I hope he's ok). I heard all the people who were arrested were released though. The Ungovernable Force 05:45, 17 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Greetings! Thanks for letting me know: actually I hadn't been following. The 24th is out for me unfortunately, though in general I intend to go to an LA meetup as soon as one fits into my schedule. Keep up the good work and happy editing! Antandrus (talk) 15:21, 19 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Fair enough. However, I feel the article should not use the term "undocumented migrant" or similar to refer to illegal immigration. It attempts to give a false impression such as "unwanted resident" for a burglar or similar. I appreciate the greeting message and I read your 'about me' page, you seem like an intelligent guy, although I do not agree people have a right to become a burden on other nations or a people to come to nations they did not create and demand services they are not entitled to. Volksgeist 17:36, 20 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Hi, Thanks for the pointers. I am familiar with the concept of a merge, but in this case I didn't see anything worth keeping. The line about addiction to cannibalism gave me shudders, more for its colonialist obtuseness than any implication of munching on human flesh or the like. Regards, Rodney Boyd 18:30, 20 June 2006 (UTC) reply

I come to you in reply to your beinvenidos statement left for me 23:05, 14 June 2006. I have a question: how do you propose a new project? I have been trying to better unify articles 666 (disambiguation), Number of the Beast, 666 (number), and 666 (year)... The disambiguation culminated with the onslaught of idiots constantly contributing statements such as "The devil is king", and "666 is an horrible unholy number - Osama Bin Laden..." is just too much for the small group of people who are trying to handle it. I know this isn't your forté, but I am a little limited on contacts. Anything would help. Thanks, Somnabot 20:42, 20 June 2006 (UTC) reply

That picture look nothing like a magazine cover, as you pointed out. It also looks faked. The colors are too intense, the images are unblemished, yet there's an odd square of background vegetation that's reproduced over and over. That makes it look like a cut-and-paste job, perhaps using some other photo of a banner as a start. I suggest removing the image from the article, tagging it as {PUI}, and asking the uploader for an explanation. It seems likely that the same person uploaded it to your user page. - Will Beback 18:50, 21 June 2006 (UTC) reply

It's already been deleted. After logging out last night I started thinking it was probably a photoshop job, but I had already turned my computer off. I'm glad someone else figured it out though. The Ungovernable Force 22:03, 21 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Just kidding! Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my userpage and for the subsequent explanation. One less mystery in the universe for me! The Ungovernable Force 22:00, 21 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Gracias por la margarita, but it's a pleasure. And thanks for the image and the reference fix. Someday I'll learn to preview and look at the preview. — JerryFriedman 23:09, 21 June 2006 (UTC) reply

I moved this image to the WP:PUA page. I also made the eagle more visible. -- evrik 16:16, 22 June 2006 (UTC) reply

		An Award
		For all your work on Chicano and Latino pages.

-- evrik 16:28, 22 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Hey Rockero -

If you're going to insist on calling things barnstars, then please go through the porcess of getting them vetted. We added the Hip Hop Star to the PUA page. -- evrik 16:53, 22 June 2006 (UTC) reply

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Hi Rockero.

I noticed that you removed the external links that I added.

I browsed the Wikipedia for over an hour reading articles and I saw a few external links that I would consider a commercial site spam, such as the http://www.santa-barbara-flowers.com/ link on the Santa Barbara page ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Barbara%2C_California).

My external link contributions, on the other hand, are useful for Wikipedia users who want to see more images of the city.

Many other external links that I have seen on Wikipedia contain advertisements and/or are of a commercial nature but they still contribute in some way to the richness of the Wikipedia user experience. Consider the following examples.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle

http://www.motards-online.com/ - advertisements

http://www.motorvike.com/ - commercial business & advertisements

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennis

http://www.tennismates.com/ - advertisements

http://www.tennisthing.com/joining/ - Online tennis coaching commercial membership site

http://www.funlabo.com/tennis/ - "Tennis Games" - advertisements

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari

http://www.forumula1.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=223 - "F1 Discussion Forum" - advertisements

http://www.tuneauto.com/autolinks/Ferrari-ADT456-252.html - "Directory of Ferrari" - advertisements

http://www.allcargarage.com/cars/ferrari/ - "Ferrari Models" - advertisements

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/series/wine/history.html - "A brief history in wine" - advertisements

http://www.winetopix.com/ - "Wine information" - advertisements

http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,1590302,00.html - "End of the vine" advertisements

Please get back to me with your thoughts.

Thank You, Paul

I am not the expert when it comes to dealing with external links. I just try to keep commercial external links off the articles that are on my watchlist. Sometimes it is difficult to know whether a link is beneficial or not. But I find that in general, when in doubt, it is best to remove the links. The best place to find out which links are appropriate is Wikipedia:External links#Links to normally avoid. There are some people who dedicate their wiki-existence to seeking out and removing commercial ELs. You seem pretty good at finding them; maybe you'd like to join that squad? Heaven knows we need it. Thanks for addressing me with your concerns.-- Rockero 18:20, 22 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Just because a site has advertisements, it doesn't mean it should be removed! Most sites make very little money from them, the money which they do make goes straight into hosting. To suggest quality sites like the Guardian or Forumula1.co.uk are spammers is absurd and a loss to the Wiki community.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.145.49.18 ( talk • contribs)

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Hola Rockero -

Many thanks for editing the site I did for La Carpa Garcia. You did a fantastic job!! In fact, I am hoping you will have time to review it again soon because my mom (Amelia Garcia Brooks - daughter of Manolo) suggested I add some of our Gonzalez relatives so they wouldn't feel left out. I don't know everyone so I am glad she noticed this. You will notice our new info in paragraph 1 and I think the last paragraph. Mom said using the word "flashy" in re: to the costumes probably wasn't appropriate so I changed that a bit.

The family does own the rights to the photos so I'll send the two that were deleted by the orphan bot soon. I am hoping my relatives will add more info as they happen upon this. We had our very first family reunion in June so many of us are just getting to know each other! I sent out a notice to the contacts I have from the reunion but my goodness, there were 150 people there so my guess is we'll see more changes as the months progress.

I wish we would have gotten together when my grandfater and others were still living. In any case, we want to continue to honor our family's wonderful contributions to Mexican-Am theater and entertainment by sharing what we know re: the carpas!

Gracias,

Monica Brooks, brooks@marshall.edu

No problem. 8) Please feel free to continue to add information as you come across it. I'll keep my eye on the article to make sure that the formatting, etc. is OK.

I was hoping you owned the copyrights to the images. They all need to have a "tag", or a template that indicates their copyright status. If you are willing to release them under the terms of the GFDL, let me know and I'll tag them as such. That is your best licensing option, since it will allow the use of the images on other-language Wikipedias.

Thanks again for your contributions, and I hope your family history project is successful.-- Rockero 15:20, 23 June 2006 (UTC) reply

We now have somebody who wishes to change the name of The Grito de Lares to Lares Outcry. Please express your opinion here: Talk:Grito de Lares (The Cry of Lares). Thank you. Tony the Marine 00:14, 25 June 2006 (UTC) reply

I've heard on both radio and TV that Joe Arpaio is going after illegal aliens. This is part of a backlash that has been going on since the immigration reform protests had started. The illegals are allegedly placed in his Tent City:The Maricopa County Jail until the Border Patrol arrives to remove them. Currently he is being protested, but has said that he will NOT back down, stating that they're here illegally, which is a criminal matter, and he got into office on a "anti-crime" mandate. He is the guy that says that a jail is NOT a (polite) country club. He declared this on FOX News, Rush Limbaugh's radio show, other shows, now he is going after them. Also by the way, the U.S. govt. initiated a forcible repatriation of illegal aliens, incl. going after them. It is called "Operation Return To Sender", which netted a estimated 21,000 illegal aliens. This is also part of the backlash that has been, still is going on. I heard this one on the news real recently. Can any of this be placed in appropriate articles ? Martial Law 00:52, 25 June 2006 (UTC) reply

The AZ Republic quotes Arpaio as saying, "We might arrest as many as 1,200 in the next year." [1] The figure I heard for ORTS was much more modest, around 2,100. [2] You must have just used one zero too many 8).

If the question of whether or not this activity is part of a backlash from the 2006 United States immigration reform protests weren't one of speculation, I'd encourage you to write an article on it. (However, there is not yet an article on Anti-immigrant sentiment in the United States, if you'd care to write that one, I'm sure the community would appreciate it.) Also, there is nothing about large-scale deportations in the Immigration reduction article, so it can be expanded to include them.

But it looks like the information itself is already on Wikipedia. Arpaio's immigration stance is mentioned actions can go in his article, although it could definitely be improved. The data about Operation Return to Sender is already in that article. Happy wiki-ing ML, -- Rockero 01:31, 25 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Thanks for the star! It made my morning over here, and makes me feel like a full-fledged editor now. As for the Nuevo Mexicano star, it seemed like every NM history article had at least one or two edits from you, not to mention your excellent articles, like Fray Angelico and Reies Tijerina, on the state. If anyone deserved a Nuevo Mexicano's thanks it was you. (p.s. never heard of the "S.A." = "ese" connection, but it makes me smile -- sort of like Russell Means' take on the word "Indio" meaning "of God", which, even if not technically true, spiritually may be). Hasta la victoria siempre, carnal. - Murcielago 18:00, 25 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Rockero, thanks for your comments about this article. I hope you will stick around and contribute more than 2 cents. I made numerous edits to this article in the past week because, prior to my arrival, the article had a heavy U.S. slant, and I think the Mexican side needs to be understood. Griot 21:05, 25 June 2006 (UTC) reply

I'll contribute what I can, but war really isn't my thing. I just try to keep an eye on Mexican-American articles for vandalism, etc., but since I have been editing Wikipedia for a while, I have developed a sense for what is appropriate for articles and what isn't and how to handle NPOV disputes, so I'll help out in that regard. I look forward to a productive collaboration.-- Rockero 21:11, 25 June 2006 (UTC) reply

wouldn't your argument mean you didn't want Coulter being described as a "civil rights advocate"? You voted that she should be described as such. -- kizzle 07:38, 27 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Right! Let this be a warning to you all: see what happens when you drink domestic beer?-- Rockero 07:42, 27 June 2006 (UTC) reply

It's the only way one can stay NPOV on Wikipedia, just be drunk all the time ;) -- kizzle 07:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Ah, that makes sense :) thanks for your input on the matter! -- kizzle 07:41, 27 June 2006 (UTC) reply

... is on my talk page. Kalkin 19:28, 27 June 2006 (UTC) reply

One of the main concerns about the "list" is that it is getting out of control and that many names of people who have only had their "15 minutes of fame" or simply are non-notables are being added. I propose that we set up guidelines as to who should be admitted with a clear definition as to the terms "notable" and "fame". I am calling upon the parties interested to express their opinion and to help develope these guidelines. I believe that after we take a vote and reach a consensus, said guidelines should be followed and posted either on the article or the articles talk page. We need your help. Tony the Marine 20:00, 27 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Please particpate here: [3]

Hola Rockero, It's amazing all the work you have done here...good job!. Right now I am working mainly on the Wiki-Español, and need your help to improve a bio of Mexican-American hero US Marine Sgt.Rafael Peralta. Check it out yourself, all help will be appreciated. Everyone is welcome! and pass it on. Thanks. -- Cefaro 04:58, 29 June 2006 (UTC) reply

On June 29, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Self Help Graphics & Art, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! + + Lar: t/ c 17:26, 29 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Indeed he is performing in the Bay this year; however, this does not change the fact that his performances in the US are rare. A quick Google of the term "manu chao "rare US" concert" yields over one hundred hits, though most are to Lollapalooza press releases. Still, the last US performance I could find mention of was a handful of dates in Los Angeles in 2000 [4], pretty scarce for an artist who tours so extensively. HumbleGod 19:31, 29 June 2006 (UTC) reply

When using template tags on talk pages, don't forget to substitute with text by adding subst: to the template tag. For example, use {{subst:test}} instead of {{test}}. This reduces server load and prevents accidental blanking of the template. - CobaltBlueTony 16:23, 30 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Oh yeah, I forgot. I'll try to remember from now on. 8)-- Rockero 16:26, 30 June 2006 (UTC) reply

That's all they ask. ;-) - CobaltBlueTony 16:29, 30 June 2006 (UTC) reply