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Hey, it's finally the day...! Some of you have been really anticipating it, and helping Wikipedia by preparing nonsense for the Main Page or doing other silly stuff. It's only 1 day out of 365, so us overstressed wikiholics should use the day to look at things a tad differently. ;) Have fun! Jamie☆ S93 01:57, 1 April 2009 (UTC) |
PeterSymonds + =
Happy April Fools Day :) Steve Crossin : Chat 03:24, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Pulled a section together: User talk:Caspian blue#Prior incidents
That took 20-30 min with the admin page search function, weeding out the cases where he reported someone without making any abusive complaints and the cases which various flamers filed against him friviously and where he didn't overreact. That leaves 13 incidents where he went too far, some of them grievously too far, over 10 months.
I don't think anyone's bothered to put it all together in one place. Now that I did, I'm suprised he hasn't been indef'ed yet...
Georgewilliamherbert ( talk) 07:44, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
As seen here - "The segment was accompanied by pictures of farmers pulling strands of spaghetti from trees -- and prompted hundreds of viewers to call in, wanting to know how they could grow their own spaghetti trees." :) I guess you guys aren't able to understand jokes. :P Ottava Rima ( talk) 16:17, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
More vandalism.... can you please block User:Sshafiee1659??? He is really annoying and is a MAJOR pain. Thanks- TDI19 ( talk) 19:41, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Request for Deity/PeterSymonds. Syn ergy 21:15, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi, since you were so kind to help with deleting Charm School Gives Back, I thought you might help with Charm School: Gives Back, which was recently recreated after deletion. Thanks! Plastikspork ( talk) 00:34, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, File:D and m.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. – Quadell ( talk) 20:00, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for checking into the matter. I am concerned that this person is in no way a new user, they sprung fully-formed into wikipedia with a full-blown knowledge of procedures and policies. I have one other possible suspect, but if that doesn't pan out, then I have no idea what to do. The rodeo articles are an absolute nightmare. Montanabw (talk) 22:19, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Peter, could you please provide some details on the deletion of this article? If there were problems with the sources, perhaps we could resolve them. I am just concerned that we are now missing an article on a very notable figure in this area. Thanks. Rogermx ( talk) 13:09, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
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For dealing with SOUMITRA SEN. That was getting real tiresome.
Im sorry, I thought only album covers were not allowed on my page.But anyway, what can I put on my page,pictures I uploaded myself, for myself? Thanks and Peace Out- PeRmEtHiUs ( talk) 16:14, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Expanding on this question...can I upload one of my own photos to WP if it is also on my Flickr page under a Creative Commons license? - Wysprgr2005 ( talk) 20:28, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Was about to block the IP, but looking at the IP userpages modified allowed me to find the CU.
So since you blocked previously, thought you might like to know, and to ask if you'd like to reinstate the block. - jc37 08:57, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
The sockpuppet ( User:Thomas de Quincey) is only blocked for 24 hours. — Snigbrook 11:36, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Would it be possible to block this range again to stop this user from abusing the other IP pages and to stop personal attacks againest Fisherqueen? Momusufan ( talk) 14:36, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
...serves you right for using automagic tools for blocking ;p – xeno ( talk) 15:49, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Update needed from queue 1. I can do credits and archiving. Shubinator ( talk) 22:56, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Hello. I was hoping you could help me or point me in the right direction with something. I've been having something of an edit war with another editor on the page of musician Alan Dubin. The main point of contention is that the other user is continuing to return pictures of album covers to this biography page, whereas it seems to me that a) the album covers listed on the page in the discography section makes the page cluttered and hard to read and b) album covers don't really belong on a biographical article, but rather in the pages for those albums, or maybe for the pages of the bands that made those albums, whereas this article is about the vocalist for those bands. I attempted to talk to this user on their talk page but they largely ignored me and continue to re-add these pictures to the page. Then I attempted to clean up the article by providing links in the biography to the pages for those albums, where the pictures are already posted, but the other user apparently doesn't like this as he removes those links when he re-adds the pictures. I'm not sure if I can tag these changes the other user is making as vandalism, so now I'm a little lost as to what the next step should be. The pictures were returned to the page earlier today and I'm pretty tired of removing them. Am I totally wrong here for trying to keep these pictures off the biographical page? I really appreciate any help you can give me. Rnb ( talk) 23:25, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
I did it for teh lulz. -- Mixwell ☞TALK☜ STALK!!! 23:27, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Just a fixing :) -- Mixwell ☞TALK☜ STALK!!! 23:33, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Jthuggett ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) seems to be another of his socks. Don't know how to add it to the case in the archive though. DuncanHill ( talk) 08:42, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Carcharoth ( talk · contribs) has posted some questions about the operation of WP:RFP and WP:RFA at Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Aitias/Evidence#Context_of_comments_and_policy_pointers. Based on Wikipedia:LOGACTIONS#User_rights_modifications you are an uninvolved expert in the field. If you could stop by and give your opinion it would be most appreciated. MBisanz talk 07:25, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Your not taking the time to familiarize your self with the material in the article or the issue under discussion but nevertheless admonishing me on my talk page for making an edit that anyone marginally well-versed in the article's subject matter (much less an expert such as myself) would make is not called for and could even be taken as offensive. I request that you remove the comment from my talk page. - Exucmember ( talk) 22:05, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
On behalf of the Kindness campaign, I just wanted to wish my fellow Wikipedians a Happy Easter! Sincerely, -- A Nobody My talk 07:52, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
I am starting this discussion on the talk pages of the three administrators involve with my recent ban: I wante to talk to the three editors/administrators I see as having the most understanding of the dynamics surrounding my recent ban: PeterSymonds, Sandstein, TheRedPenOfDoom. I am not sure the most efficient method of doing this, so I will post it to each of your talk pages, as well as my own talk page. I if this is the incorrect procedure or if this is too long.
I do this as an effort to better understand where the dividing line lies between promotion and inclusion of legitimate inclusion of material, to better understand the dynamics of my recent ban further, and so I don't make a similar mistake in the future. And because I am really confused.
What I am lost with is how can it be considered promotion when including a individual in a wiki page when they actually are notable individuals in relation to those entries? I'll talk about specifics in this case:
Michelle Belanger in relation to the topics of DragonCon_Dark_Fantasy_Track, Urn_(band), Vampire_lifestyle, Vampire_Secrets. Belanger has a notable part in these topics. She has been and continues to be a recurring presenter for the Dragon Con. she did appear in an Urn video with Don Henrie. She was the first third party published author to discuss psychic vampirism and the in a non hostile manner. And she was in fact one of the authors who appeared on the show Vampire Secrets. Additionally, with the exception of the Vampire_lifestyle page, she was listed in conjunction with with other individuals, and Belanger's inclusion in those entires was was done by third parties.
What I might be guilty of in those cases, and I will admit to this, is blindly undoing a series of deletes performed by another editor who might not have been aware of her involvement, when I probably should have more selective in my actions and what I chose to reinstate.
As for the Vampire_lifestyle page, I did seek to include the writers Raven Kaldera, and Lady CG, but since their works were self published, those references were removed. My choice to remove the references Asetian Bible from the Vampire_lifestyle entry came about only after a discussion I participated in on the Ankh page clarified to me that it was considered self published, and therefore did not meet the criteria of a reliable source.
Could I be considered a Belanger fangirl? Likely. But I would would doubt any entry that references notable individuals are free from input from those persons' fans.
But I am also a participant in the vampire community. A community I feel very strongly about, and one that I do want to see properly discussed in the wiki entries, especially with the sort of attention we have been getting because of Twilight, True Blood and all the other vampire related topics out there. And this includes being aware of the activities of one of our more prominent members – one who has even appeared on Fox news on December 8th as "an expert on the vampire community".
And if I were really out to be promotional of Belanger, I would have sough to include her on the Don_Henrie entry (a person she has had repeated contact with) and the Paranormal_State entry (a show where she is a recurring psychic consultant for). Instead, I've chosen to not involve myself in those entires, respecting the fact that if it is considered notable to other editor, she will be added. I've also not attempted to create a page for Belanger. Again, I leave that to come about on it's own from the collaboration of other editors.
What I feel I see happening with here is struggle I suspect occurs with an individual in the process of actually gaining notoriety. It might appear that the inclusion of Belanger on these topics is promotional attempts, but, like it or not, the reality is that she is indeed an author, presenter, singer, and television personality at this point. And the editors adding her to these entries are aware of this.
Now, if it will help, I will dig through and cite every single possible appearance of Michelle Belanger I can find in media that is not from a vanity or self-published source.
Thank you for any clarification you might be able to provide on this matter. And I hope that simply asking for and attempting to give clarification doesn't get me banned again.-- SiIIyLiIIyPiIIy ( talk) 21:41, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Based on the stated closing time of Wikipedia:Date formatting and linking poll (13 April 2009 23:59 UTC), it seems you protected and closed this poll about 22 hours early (i.e. 13 April 2009, 01:58 UTC) Dl2000 ( talk) 02:56, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
well done Peter Victuallers ( talk) 09:53, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
I hope I am wrong: [5] Steve Dufour ( talk) 16:55, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
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Another DYK update is due, from queue 2. I can do credits and archiving as usual. Shubinator ( talk) 23:37, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Peter, I'm not sure about an indefinite block of User:NyteMuse but it's been hanging a few days and should be responded to. At the same time, User:SiIIyLiIIyPiIIy's response clearly indicates meatpuppetry at the very least. Were you just going on the very clear pattern at vampire lifestyle? -- Ricky81682 ( talk) 02:19, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm kind of perturbed that after I reopened giving clear reasons why I was doing so, you came along and closed it again, ignoring what I had said.-- SarekOfVulcan ( talk) 16:27, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
<* cough, cough *>, ahhh .. yea. I think I'm probably the guilty party on this one folks. I ran across the AfD here while checking through the Help Desk. I then mentioned the issue to Peter in IRC. At the time it looked like a clear SNOW issue, and to be even more frank, I also thought it was a forumshopping issue as well (probably an unfair assumption on my part). So ... all cards on the table, I'm most likely the one that everyone should be looking at if there's a finger of blame to be pointed here. I'll just go ahead an pick up my trout on the way out ;) — Ched : ? 05:03, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
for your advice. You see, I can edit again. But when I tried to edit the article, the removed information was already restored with the reference by other user. Best regards. Oda Mari ( talk) 20:30, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Protect Total Drama Action. More assumptions and destruction of the format and content of the article. I have HAD it with the vandals of this article and I was wondering if you could please protect it (autoconfirmed) for about 1 year. Thanks! TDI19 ( talk) 02:19, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi Peter, thanks for repairing User talk:Jeffssister - could you look at the history of User:Jeffssister (currently deleted) to check if there was any valid version? Thanks. DuncanHill ( talk) 07:56, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi Peter. I noticed you recenly blocked 71.193.118.38 ( talk) for 31 hours for "vandalism". This user also left Thrane some pretty nasty messages on his talk page. Would it be appropriate to extend the block? C.U.T.K.D T | C 12:14, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Could you look again at "Nifky?" ? I was just about to decline.... Pedro : Chat 11:10, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
You are quite correct. I was a bit stressed and just clicked rollback, forgetting that rollback functionality isn't the same in IE as it is in Firefox with Twinkle. Twinkle gives you the opportunity to add an edit summary but IE just rolls back. It was one of those "Doh!" moments after I'd done it but it was too late by then. Sorry about that. -- AussieLegend ( talk) 11:12, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
You blocked Sansonic yesterday. Thanks! He's back with another sockpuppet, Lowbiologist, today. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Sansonic. Fences and windows ( talk) 20:08, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi. I recently filed a sockpuppetry investigation on User:I Heart Davie Game. You blocked the suspected sockpuppet, User:Betrayed'ed Game. I didn't notice until afterwards, but those users may have actually been puppets of User:JaimeAnnaMoore. The matter may be worth looking into again. Sorry for not having found this earlier. -- Gardenhoser! ( talk) 22:23, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
What needs to be done to delete all of the pages at Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Bluedogtn? I ask you due to your closing of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Bluedogtn/Archive. -- Pascal 666 00:36, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Please read the discussion post at Talk:Castel Volturno Massacre. Thanks. Joyson Noel ( talk) 20:56, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
I noticed that you protected the Nürburgring lap times article a couple of months ago. While a lot of the content issues have been resolved, recently there have been a lot of anon IPs edits, which are vandalism (ie changing random numbers) than content dispute.
While I prefer talk pages in this situation the talk page isn't going to change a thing, neither is an IP block as the IPs are constantly changing.
Could you semi-protect the page so that non/newly registered editors cannot vandalise it again please?
カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! ( talk) 06:00, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Re WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Antonia1976, I completely agree, there is nothing else needed right now, since the second account is now blocked. (It wasn't when I filed the report.) I looked back through the edit histories of these articles and there seems to be a slow, months-long pattern of similar accounts, each used for a few similar unconstructive edits and then abandoned. This is my first time to file a sockpuppet report, so, may I ask your advice for next time? If and when the pattern repeats, should I: (1) add the new account(s) to this existing page, (2) start a new sockpuppet report page, or (3) just report the unconstructive edits to AIV and not bother with the puppet report? Thanks,-- Arxiloxos ( talk) 18:34, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Cutlerowns19 User:Greenman2020 is exhibiting several of the behaviors associated with the User:Cutlerowns19 bunch. He is welcoming and applying speedy delete tags. See Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive529#User:Rockiesfan19_and_misuse_of_Twinkle] User:Greenman2020 also has the exact same userboxes as Rwiki19 who is a confirmed sockpuppet. The boxes also suggest the same geographic location. Cutlerownsagain and Greenman2020 have also sought adoption by a user, although Greenman has been adopted by User:Zoofari.
I don't know if that is enough for a DUCK, so I thought I would ask you. The similarities just seem to good to be true. :) Sheepeh ( talk) 19:33, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Hello again Peter. I came across a blog post complaining about negative claims in the article Joe Banner which you had protected in this state with the text "As team president, Banner has proven to rather want to make money then win championships, as he is behind the lose of many free agents such as Brian Dawkins, Troy Vincent, Bobby Taylor, Duce Staley, Tra Thomas, Brian Mitchell, Derrick Burgess, and Jeff Garcia." I wonder if it might be wise to be a little more ruthless with regards to unsourced negative claims in WP:BLPs in future, or if you don't want to get involved with the content (perfectly understandable), post a short note at WP:BLPN so a volunteer can take a look. Regards, Skomorokh 05:07, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi Peter. Just checking in with you regarding the matter we discussed via email (see 3/18 and your response on 3/22). Haven't heard from you since you said you'd look into it. Best regards, Xenophrenic ( talk) 19:21, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Sorry for bothering you in the IRC. I won't do it anymore. So will you take me off your ignore list, please? --How may I serve you? (Marshall Williams2) 00:22, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Just saying thank-you for the IP exemption. Wikipedian2 ( talk) 18:01, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
could you please look over this article Hamas. I argue my edit is the more balanced of the two (although I am certainly open to a compromise)- and I think an edit war may begin anew. Thanks Starstylers ( talk) 18:51, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
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Happy April Fools' Day! | ||
Hey, it's finally the day...! Some of you have been really anticipating it, and helping Wikipedia by preparing nonsense for the Main Page or doing other silly stuff. It's only 1 day out of 365, so us overstressed wikiholics should use the day to look at things a tad differently. ;) Have fun! Jamie☆ S93 01:57, 1 April 2009 (UTC) |
PeterSymonds + =
Happy April Fools Day :) Steve Crossin : Chat 03:24, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Pulled a section together: User talk:Caspian blue#Prior incidents
That took 20-30 min with the admin page search function, weeding out the cases where he reported someone without making any abusive complaints and the cases which various flamers filed against him friviously and where he didn't overreact. That leaves 13 incidents where he went too far, some of them grievously too far, over 10 months.
I don't think anyone's bothered to put it all together in one place. Now that I did, I'm suprised he hasn't been indef'ed yet...
Georgewilliamherbert ( talk) 07:44, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
As seen here - "The segment was accompanied by pictures of farmers pulling strands of spaghetti from trees -- and prompted hundreds of viewers to call in, wanting to know how they could grow their own spaghetti trees." :) I guess you guys aren't able to understand jokes. :P Ottava Rima ( talk) 16:17, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
More vandalism.... can you please block User:Sshafiee1659??? He is really annoying and is a MAJOR pain. Thanks- TDI19 ( talk) 19:41, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Request for Deity/PeterSymonds. Syn ergy 21:15, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi, since you were so kind to help with deleting Charm School Gives Back, I thought you might help with Charm School: Gives Back, which was recently recreated after deletion. Thanks! Plastikspork ( talk) 00:34, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, File:D and m.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. – Quadell ( talk) 20:00, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for checking into the matter. I am concerned that this person is in no way a new user, they sprung fully-formed into wikipedia with a full-blown knowledge of procedures and policies. I have one other possible suspect, but if that doesn't pan out, then I have no idea what to do. The rodeo articles are an absolute nightmare. Montanabw (talk) 22:19, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Peter, could you please provide some details on the deletion of this article? If there were problems with the sources, perhaps we could resolve them. I am just concerned that we are now missing an article on a very notable figure in this area. Thanks. Rogermx ( talk) 13:09, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
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For dealing with SOUMITRA SEN. That was getting real tiresome.
Im sorry, I thought only album covers were not allowed on my page.But anyway, what can I put on my page,pictures I uploaded myself, for myself? Thanks and Peace Out- PeRmEtHiUs ( talk) 16:14, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Expanding on this question...can I upload one of my own photos to WP if it is also on my Flickr page under a Creative Commons license? - Wysprgr2005 ( talk) 20:28, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Was about to block the IP, but looking at the IP userpages modified allowed me to find the CU.
So since you blocked previously, thought you might like to know, and to ask if you'd like to reinstate the block. - jc37 08:57, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
The sockpuppet ( User:Thomas de Quincey) is only blocked for 24 hours. — Snigbrook 11:36, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Would it be possible to block this range again to stop this user from abusing the other IP pages and to stop personal attacks againest Fisherqueen? Momusufan ( talk) 14:36, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
...serves you right for using automagic tools for blocking ;p – xeno ( talk) 15:49, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Update needed from queue 1. I can do credits and archiving. Shubinator ( talk) 22:56, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Hello. I was hoping you could help me or point me in the right direction with something. I've been having something of an edit war with another editor on the page of musician Alan Dubin. The main point of contention is that the other user is continuing to return pictures of album covers to this biography page, whereas it seems to me that a) the album covers listed on the page in the discography section makes the page cluttered and hard to read and b) album covers don't really belong on a biographical article, but rather in the pages for those albums, or maybe for the pages of the bands that made those albums, whereas this article is about the vocalist for those bands. I attempted to talk to this user on their talk page but they largely ignored me and continue to re-add these pictures to the page. Then I attempted to clean up the article by providing links in the biography to the pages for those albums, where the pictures are already posted, but the other user apparently doesn't like this as he removes those links when he re-adds the pictures. I'm not sure if I can tag these changes the other user is making as vandalism, so now I'm a little lost as to what the next step should be. The pictures were returned to the page earlier today and I'm pretty tired of removing them. Am I totally wrong here for trying to keep these pictures off the biographical page? I really appreciate any help you can give me. Rnb ( talk) 23:25, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
I did it for teh lulz. -- Mixwell ☞TALK☜ STALK!!! 23:27, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Just a fixing :) -- Mixwell ☞TALK☜ STALK!!! 23:33, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Jthuggett ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) seems to be another of his socks. Don't know how to add it to the case in the archive though. DuncanHill ( talk) 08:42, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Carcharoth ( talk · contribs) has posted some questions about the operation of WP:RFP and WP:RFA at Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Aitias/Evidence#Context_of_comments_and_policy_pointers. Based on Wikipedia:LOGACTIONS#User_rights_modifications you are an uninvolved expert in the field. If you could stop by and give your opinion it would be most appreciated. MBisanz talk 07:25, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Your not taking the time to familiarize your self with the material in the article or the issue under discussion but nevertheless admonishing me on my talk page for making an edit that anyone marginally well-versed in the article's subject matter (much less an expert such as myself) would make is not called for and could even be taken as offensive. I request that you remove the comment from my talk page. - Exucmember ( talk) 22:05, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
On behalf of the Kindness campaign, I just wanted to wish my fellow Wikipedians a Happy Easter! Sincerely, -- A Nobody My talk 07:52, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
I am starting this discussion on the talk pages of the three administrators involve with my recent ban: I wante to talk to the three editors/administrators I see as having the most understanding of the dynamics surrounding my recent ban: PeterSymonds, Sandstein, TheRedPenOfDoom. I am not sure the most efficient method of doing this, so I will post it to each of your talk pages, as well as my own talk page. I if this is the incorrect procedure or if this is too long.
I do this as an effort to better understand where the dividing line lies between promotion and inclusion of legitimate inclusion of material, to better understand the dynamics of my recent ban further, and so I don't make a similar mistake in the future. And because I am really confused.
What I am lost with is how can it be considered promotion when including a individual in a wiki page when they actually are notable individuals in relation to those entries? I'll talk about specifics in this case:
Michelle Belanger in relation to the topics of DragonCon_Dark_Fantasy_Track, Urn_(band), Vampire_lifestyle, Vampire_Secrets. Belanger has a notable part in these topics. She has been and continues to be a recurring presenter for the Dragon Con. she did appear in an Urn video with Don Henrie. She was the first third party published author to discuss psychic vampirism and the in a non hostile manner. And she was in fact one of the authors who appeared on the show Vampire Secrets. Additionally, with the exception of the Vampire_lifestyle page, she was listed in conjunction with with other individuals, and Belanger's inclusion in those entires was was done by third parties.
What I might be guilty of in those cases, and I will admit to this, is blindly undoing a series of deletes performed by another editor who might not have been aware of her involvement, when I probably should have more selective in my actions and what I chose to reinstate.
As for the Vampire_lifestyle page, I did seek to include the writers Raven Kaldera, and Lady CG, but since their works were self published, those references were removed. My choice to remove the references Asetian Bible from the Vampire_lifestyle entry came about only after a discussion I participated in on the Ankh page clarified to me that it was considered self published, and therefore did not meet the criteria of a reliable source.
Could I be considered a Belanger fangirl? Likely. But I would would doubt any entry that references notable individuals are free from input from those persons' fans.
But I am also a participant in the vampire community. A community I feel very strongly about, and one that I do want to see properly discussed in the wiki entries, especially with the sort of attention we have been getting because of Twilight, True Blood and all the other vampire related topics out there. And this includes being aware of the activities of one of our more prominent members – one who has even appeared on Fox news on December 8th as "an expert on the vampire community".
And if I were really out to be promotional of Belanger, I would have sough to include her on the Don_Henrie entry (a person she has had repeated contact with) and the Paranormal_State entry (a show where she is a recurring psychic consultant for). Instead, I've chosen to not involve myself in those entires, respecting the fact that if it is considered notable to other editor, she will be added. I've also not attempted to create a page for Belanger. Again, I leave that to come about on it's own from the collaboration of other editors.
What I feel I see happening with here is struggle I suspect occurs with an individual in the process of actually gaining notoriety. It might appear that the inclusion of Belanger on these topics is promotional attempts, but, like it or not, the reality is that she is indeed an author, presenter, singer, and television personality at this point. And the editors adding her to these entries are aware of this.
Now, if it will help, I will dig through and cite every single possible appearance of Michelle Belanger I can find in media that is not from a vanity or self-published source.
Thank you for any clarification you might be able to provide on this matter. And I hope that simply asking for and attempting to give clarification doesn't get me banned again.-- SiIIyLiIIyPiIIy ( talk) 21:41, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Based on the stated closing time of Wikipedia:Date formatting and linking poll (13 April 2009 23:59 UTC), it seems you protected and closed this poll about 22 hours early (i.e. 13 April 2009, 01:58 UTC) Dl2000 ( talk) 02:56, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
well done Peter Victuallers ( talk) 09:53, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
I hope I am wrong: [5] Steve Dufour ( talk) 16:55, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
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Another DYK update is due, from queue 2. I can do credits and archiving as usual. Shubinator ( talk) 23:37, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Peter, I'm not sure about an indefinite block of User:NyteMuse but it's been hanging a few days and should be responded to. At the same time, User:SiIIyLiIIyPiIIy's response clearly indicates meatpuppetry at the very least. Were you just going on the very clear pattern at vampire lifestyle? -- Ricky81682 ( talk) 02:19, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm kind of perturbed that after I reopened giving clear reasons why I was doing so, you came along and closed it again, ignoring what I had said.-- SarekOfVulcan ( talk) 16:27, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
<* cough, cough *>, ahhh .. yea. I think I'm probably the guilty party on this one folks. I ran across the AfD here while checking through the Help Desk. I then mentioned the issue to Peter in IRC. At the time it looked like a clear SNOW issue, and to be even more frank, I also thought it was a forumshopping issue as well (probably an unfair assumption on my part). So ... all cards on the table, I'm most likely the one that everyone should be looking at if there's a finger of blame to be pointed here. I'll just go ahead an pick up my trout on the way out ;) — Ched : ? 05:03, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
for your advice. You see, I can edit again. But when I tried to edit the article, the removed information was already restored with the reference by other user. Best regards. Oda Mari ( talk) 20:30, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Protect Total Drama Action. More assumptions and destruction of the format and content of the article. I have HAD it with the vandals of this article and I was wondering if you could please protect it (autoconfirmed) for about 1 year. Thanks! TDI19 ( talk) 02:19, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi Peter, thanks for repairing User talk:Jeffssister - could you look at the history of User:Jeffssister (currently deleted) to check if there was any valid version? Thanks. DuncanHill ( talk) 07:56, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi Peter. I noticed you recenly blocked 71.193.118.38 ( talk) for 31 hours for "vandalism". This user also left Thrane some pretty nasty messages on his talk page. Would it be appropriate to extend the block? C.U.T.K.D T | C 12:14, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Could you look again at "Nifky?" ? I was just about to decline.... Pedro : Chat 11:10, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
You are quite correct. I was a bit stressed and just clicked rollback, forgetting that rollback functionality isn't the same in IE as it is in Firefox with Twinkle. Twinkle gives you the opportunity to add an edit summary but IE just rolls back. It was one of those "Doh!" moments after I'd done it but it was too late by then. Sorry about that. -- AussieLegend ( talk) 11:12, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
You blocked Sansonic yesterday. Thanks! He's back with another sockpuppet, Lowbiologist, today. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Sansonic. Fences and windows ( talk) 20:08, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi. I recently filed a sockpuppetry investigation on User:I Heart Davie Game. You blocked the suspected sockpuppet, User:Betrayed'ed Game. I didn't notice until afterwards, but those users may have actually been puppets of User:JaimeAnnaMoore. The matter may be worth looking into again. Sorry for not having found this earlier. -- Gardenhoser! ( talk) 22:23, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
What needs to be done to delete all of the pages at Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Bluedogtn? I ask you due to your closing of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Bluedogtn/Archive. -- Pascal 666 00:36, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Please read the discussion post at Talk:Castel Volturno Massacre. Thanks. Joyson Noel ( talk) 20:56, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
I noticed that you protected the Nürburgring lap times article a couple of months ago. While a lot of the content issues have been resolved, recently there have been a lot of anon IPs edits, which are vandalism (ie changing random numbers) than content dispute.
While I prefer talk pages in this situation the talk page isn't going to change a thing, neither is an IP block as the IPs are constantly changing.
Could you semi-protect the page so that non/newly registered editors cannot vandalise it again please?
カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! ( talk) 06:00, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Re WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Antonia1976, I completely agree, there is nothing else needed right now, since the second account is now blocked. (It wasn't when I filed the report.) I looked back through the edit histories of these articles and there seems to be a slow, months-long pattern of similar accounts, each used for a few similar unconstructive edits and then abandoned. This is my first time to file a sockpuppet report, so, may I ask your advice for next time? If and when the pattern repeats, should I: (1) add the new account(s) to this existing page, (2) start a new sockpuppet report page, or (3) just report the unconstructive edits to AIV and not bother with the puppet report? Thanks,-- Arxiloxos ( talk) 18:34, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Cutlerowns19 User:Greenman2020 is exhibiting several of the behaviors associated with the User:Cutlerowns19 bunch. He is welcoming and applying speedy delete tags. See Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive529#User:Rockiesfan19_and_misuse_of_Twinkle] User:Greenman2020 also has the exact same userboxes as Rwiki19 who is a confirmed sockpuppet. The boxes also suggest the same geographic location. Cutlerownsagain and Greenman2020 have also sought adoption by a user, although Greenman has been adopted by User:Zoofari.
I don't know if that is enough for a DUCK, so I thought I would ask you. The similarities just seem to good to be true. :) Sheepeh ( talk) 19:33, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Hello again Peter. I came across a blog post complaining about negative claims in the article Joe Banner which you had protected in this state with the text "As team president, Banner has proven to rather want to make money then win championships, as he is behind the lose of many free agents such as Brian Dawkins, Troy Vincent, Bobby Taylor, Duce Staley, Tra Thomas, Brian Mitchell, Derrick Burgess, and Jeff Garcia." I wonder if it might be wise to be a little more ruthless with regards to unsourced negative claims in WP:BLPs in future, or if you don't want to get involved with the content (perfectly understandable), post a short note at WP:BLPN so a volunteer can take a look. Regards, Skomorokh 05:07, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi Peter. Just checking in with you regarding the matter we discussed via email (see 3/18 and your response on 3/22). Haven't heard from you since you said you'd look into it. Best regards, Xenophrenic ( talk) 19:21, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Sorry for bothering you in the IRC. I won't do it anymore. So will you take me off your ignore list, please? --How may I serve you? (Marshall Williams2) 00:22, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Just saying thank-you for the IP exemption. Wikipedian2 ( talk) 18:01, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
could you please look over this article Hamas. I argue my edit is the more balanced of the two (although I am certainly open to a compromise)- and I think an edit war may begin anew. Thanks Starstylers ( talk) 18:51, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
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