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Hey,as we both contributed to the Kingdom of Algiers article and saw that you made significant edits these last days, i would love to discuss with you about how can we improve our article, here is my discord server : https://discord.gg/mXAg3RAD Tayeb188 ( talk) 18:04, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
Hi, in case it helps you get started, you can find some information on the agha's rise to power in Jamil Abun-Nasr's History of the Maghrib, on p.159-169. It may not contain all the information you're looking for, but it's a good, reliable history reference that's mostly visible on Google Books preview, so it's a good choice for Wikipedia. If I think of any other convenient references, I'll let you know here or at Talk:Ottoman Algeria.
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I see you are interested in Algeria, which I have worked on here and there as I speak french and some very fine but poorly worded content was coming to my attention. I have a number of articles which I have improved as much as I can but would benefit from the attention of someone who speaks Arabic, if that is you. Just let me know. I see your English is rough, but mine is not, so I can help with that part if you can help with content. Elinruby ( talk) 09:21, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
PS: I do not know R Prazeres but that editor seems like a good person to listen to, and it is true that you will make life easier for other people if you learn the cite book and cite web templates. 09:27, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for your work, we need the same for the french version of ottoman algeria ... HanKim20 ( talk) 13:30, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
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the text towards the bottom of the article is heavy going. I seem to remember this inversion of subject and object in MT from Arabic before and have *somewhat* more acquaintance with this than the average Wikipedian, but that is a very low bar. If you speak Arabic I would appreciate a review to make sure I am not creating historical nonsense; if you grew up there I assume you got some history in school. Maybe in a day or so when I think I am done. Your English seems fine but if French is easier I speak that also. I am going to try to get through the last few sections at least one more time tonight, and check references the next time I am in. PS I understand that the 1897 blockquote is typical colonial thinking, but something more recent is probably due also. More suggestions later probably.
Note that I have zero knowledge of Arabic Elinruby ( talk) 09:52, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
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I hope it is ok for me to offer some suggestions on this article as I review it for military history. It is a long article and it is taking me some time to read through it, longer than I thought it would. I think it may be better to correspond on your talk page than go back and forth on the article assessment page. First, I suggest that you define "corso" where it first appears or use a different word or phrase. I am not familiar with the word and could not find a satisfactory definition. I assume that in context it means corsair activity or piracy and that it has periods of greater or lesser or even no activity. The paragraph where the word first appears confused me mainly because I did not recognize the word but you might look at whether the entire point of the paragraph is clearly expressed. I think that when you first refer to the Janissary revolt, you might link to the article about it, Odjak of Algiers Revolution, which it appears you have worked on. Finally, for now, the sentence including "Oruç was forced to sit in the council" appears to need the word "building" or some type of further description. I assume that Oruc was sitting, or hiding, in a building where a council meets, not sitting in a council meeting which is what the phrase otherwise might imply. I will get back to you as I progress. Donner60 ( talk) 09:14, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
I have read further into the article and have more suggestions. I think these are small edits and the number may decline as terms reappear later and do not need further definition or as fewer such terms are used. My goal, in line with B class standards, is to allow the average reader to read the article more easily, without having to search for definitions. I am confident that this will qualify for B class. Certainly the number of citations conforms to the guideline and that is a big step toward the assessment. My suggestions or questions this time refer to:
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In response to this: WP:ONUS just means that even if material is supported by reliable sources, there could still be reasons to not include it (e.g. off-topic, adding undue emphasis on a particular point of view, etc). So if other editors disagree with the inclusion, you still need to solicit a consensus. (If the inclusion is not supported by reliable sources, then of course it's easy to reject it anyways.) So no, you generally don't need to solicit consensus before every edit if you don't expect any disagreement. If you do expect a disagreement, then yes it's a good idea to go to the talk page first.
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You're getting pinged on stuff because you are the subject matter expert and probably know the answer, not because people are blaming you for whatever issue they found. Though it was probably good to mention that that section predates you, for the record. But now we are the last people to have touched it and it is better to find and fix any more such problems before a GA fail immortalizes them. That's all. Just saying this because you seem a bit defensive. I know it is stressful to have the article be audited with extreme prejudice like this, but please accept that the fact that we are doing all the work to do so is a measure of how exceptional a piece of work we think it is, and how worthy of the polishing ;) hope you don't mind thesr remark, but I am just saying. It's ok. And also, please do not let us make a mistake in our ignorance, either. And thanks for all the work. You really are increasing knowledge of a little-,known topic Elinruby ( talk) 01:41, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi @ Nourerrahmane: I hope your not sleeping so I don't wake you up. It morning here in sunny Scotland. A wee annoucement. There is start of a new WP:NPP sprint starting in May which I've signed up to, so I'll be here less working on the article during that month. So I'm trying to get as much done during the next two weeks. I'll still popping in, but i'll be doing less work. I just wanted to inform you in case you thought I'd bailed on you. Hopefully in the next two weeks we will get most of it done. scope_creep Talk 11:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
However there are certain things I keep correcting over and over again. Some of these are not really big problems outside of a GA nomination but all of them are to some extent issues that will keep coming up. I am not certain whether you do not notice that I correct them or do not believe that the corrections are warranted. Many of them are things that are not exactly wrong. I hope that the following will come across as the constructive criticism that I intend it to be.
the word "pieds-noirs" would not be capitalized in French.
Not saying these things to be rude, but because they will eventually get you into trouble, which I would hate to see happen. I think that is enough for now. I could go on at some length about the use of the word "the" in English, but it is often omitted, let's just say that. Almost everyone gets it wrong and it is not the most important of my concerns. Also, French is famous for euphemism and in this kind of writing direct and simpple language is best. If you normally read English in bureaucratic or legal contexts it may differ from what I am trying to do here. My own writing has been criticized as too much in the opposite direction, but where, as here, there is a whole lot of material that will be unfamiliar to English speakers, it is best to err on the side of clarity.
Going to do a big push to try to get through this. If you are looking for something to work on may I suggest improving the Agriculture section? It turns out Mathglot had forgotten about it. 04:59, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Sorry for that :) What i dousually is adding the informationwithout caring too much how it's written, as not to forget what i should add next. I'll try to get more prudent in the future and thanks for your suggestions. I worked a bit on Agriculture, Urban population and Social structure sections. Right now i'll focus more on refs per Scope's remarks.
i am sorry but that comes across as rather dismissive. I have spent the last two months of my life correcting these same errors over and over again. But fine. I will let the GA reviewer fail the article for them because really, enough is enough. I wouldn't mind doing the work if it stayed done. Elinruby ( talk) 10:34, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Moving this here from article talk page: ust the ones i pointed out would be a start. Your spellcheck is apparently set to either French or Arabic. It almost certainly can be reset to English temporarily. But seriously, I think I am done. Kind of sad about it, but I can only fix the same mistakes in the same places so many times. Stepping away for my sanity. Maybe temporarily but I think not. I just can't keep doing this over and over and over and over and over. The question is less whether the information is important as why we are getting failed verification problems this far into the process? Sources need to verify what is in the text, not just vaguely similar concepts. If you don't understand that I don't know what to say.
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The function of quote marks is a much bigger systemic problem, since you have quote marks around text that is not in the source. Also, I don't know if you have processed that there are many many many entries on the talk page that require an Arabic speaker. But as you say, good luck to you. Elinruby ( talk) 23:22, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
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I've been asking questions about whether there is a way to prevent that. Getting blank stares. I realized after the fact that he probably wasn't a Pasha and the French article is fr:Baba Abdi Elinruby ( talk) 08:28, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
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Hey,as we both contributed to the Kingdom of Algiers article and saw that you made significant edits these last days, i would love to discuss with you about how can we improve our article, here is my discord server : https://discord.gg/mXAg3RAD Tayeb188 ( talk) 18:04, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
Hi, in case it helps you get started, you can find some information on the agha's rise to power in Jamil Abun-Nasr's History of the Maghrib, on p.159-169. It may not contain all the information you're looking for, but it's a good, reliable history reference that's mostly visible on Google Books preview, so it's a good choice for Wikipedia. If I think of any other convenient references, I'll let you know here or at Talk:Ottoman Algeria.
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I see you are interested in Algeria, which I have worked on here and there as I speak french and some very fine but poorly worded content was coming to my attention. I have a number of articles which I have improved as much as I can but would benefit from the attention of someone who speaks Arabic, if that is you. Just let me know. I see your English is rough, but mine is not, so I can help with that part if you can help with content. Elinruby ( talk) 09:21, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
PS: I do not know R Prazeres but that editor seems like a good person to listen to, and it is true that you will make life easier for other people if you learn the cite book and cite web templates. 09:27, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for your work, we need the same for the french version of ottoman algeria ... HanKim20 ( talk) 13:30, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
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the text towards the bottom of the article is heavy going. I seem to remember this inversion of subject and object in MT from Arabic before and have *somewhat* more acquaintance with this than the average Wikipedian, but that is a very low bar. If you speak Arabic I would appreciate a review to make sure I am not creating historical nonsense; if you grew up there I assume you got some history in school. Maybe in a day or so when I think I am done. Your English seems fine but if French is easier I speak that also. I am going to try to get through the last few sections at least one more time tonight, and check references the next time I am in. PS I understand that the 1897 blockquote is typical colonial thinking, but something more recent is probably due also. More suggestions later probably.
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I hope it is ok for me to offer some suggestions on this article as I review it for military history. It is a long article and it is taking me some time to read through it, longer than I thought it would. I think it may be better to correspond on your talk page than go back and forth on the article assessment page. First, I suggest that you define "corso" where it first appears or use a different word or phrase. I am not familiar with the word and could not find a satisfactory definition. I assume that in context it means corsair activity or piracy and that it has periods of greater or lesser or even no activity. The paragraph where the word first appears confused me mainly because I did not recognize the word but you might look at whether the entire point of the paragraph is clearly expressed. I think that when you first refer to the Janissary revolt, you might link to the article about it, Odjak of Algiers Revolution, which it appears you have worked on. Finally, for now, the sentence including "Oruç was forced to sit in the council" appears to need the word "building" or some type of further description. I assume that Oruc was sitting, or hiding, in a building where a council meets, not sitting in a council meeting which is what the phrase otherwise might imply. I will get back to you as I progress. Donner60 ( talk) 09:14, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
I have read further into the article and have more suggestions. I think these are small edits and the number may decline as terms reappear later and do not need further definition or as fewer such terms are used. My goal, in line with B class standards, is to allow the average reader to read the article more easily, without having to search for definitions. I am confident that this will qualify for B class. Certainly the number of citations conforms to the guideline and that is a big step toward the assessment. My suggestions or questions this time refer to:
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. 808 AD ( talk) 23:52, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
The article Regency of Algiers you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Regency of Algiers for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Aintabli -- Aintabli ( talk) 23:40, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
In response to this: WP:ONUS just means that even if material is supported by reliable sources, there could still be reasons to not include it (e.g. off-topic, adding undue emphasis on a particular point of view, etc). So if other editors disagree with the inclusion, you still need to solicit a consensus. (If the inclusion is not supported by reliable sources, then of course it's easy to reject it anyways.) So no, you generally don't need to solicit consensus before every edit if you don't expect any disagreement. If you do expect a disagreement, then yes it's a good idea to go to the talk page first.
Also, a small heads-up: be careful about accusing other editors of being sockpuppets in regular discussions. It could be considered a violation of WP:AGF and WP:NPA. (This is something that had to be explained to me too.) It's less of a problem in obvious cases of block evasion (e.g. a new account or IP restoring the reverted edit of a blocked account), but if there's merely a suspicion, then we're expected to file a report at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations and provide evidence there instead. In cases of ongoing disruption, you can always report them to WP:ANI too. R Prazeres ( talk) 19:05, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
You're getting pinged on stuff because you are the subject matter expert and probably know the answer, not because people are blaming you for whatever issue they found. Though it was probably good to mention that that section predates you, for the record. But now we are the last people to have touched it and it is better to find and fix any more such problems before a GA fail immortalizes them. That's all. Just saying this because you seem a bit defensive. I know it is stressful to have the article be audited with extreme prejudice like this, but please accept that the fact that we are doing all the work to do so is a measure of how exceptional a piece of work we think it is, and how worthy of the polishing ;) hope you don't mind thesr remark, but I am just saying. It's ok. And also, please do not let us make a mistake in our ignorance, either. And thanks for all the work. You really are increasing knowledge of a little-,known topic Elinruby ( talk) 01:41, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi @ Nourerrahmane: I hope your not sleeping so I don't wake you up. It morning here in sunny Scotland. A wee annoucement. There is start of a new WP:NPP sprint starting in May which I've signed up to, so I'll be here less working on the article during that month. So I'm trying to get as much done during the next two weeks. I'll still popping in, but i'll be doing less work. I just wanted to inform you in case you thought I'd bailed on you. Hopefully in the next two weeks we will get most of it done. scope_creep Talk 11:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
However there are certain things I keep correcting over and over again. Some of these are not really big problems outside of a GA nomination but all of them are to some extent issues that will keep coming up. I am not certain whether you do not notice that I correct them or do not believe that the corrections are warranted. Many of them are things that are not exactly wrong. I hope that the following will come across as the constructive criticism that I intend it to be.
the word "pieds-noirs" would not be capitalized in French.
Not saying these things to be rude, but because they will eventually get you into trouble, which I would hate to see happen. I think that is enough for now. I could go on at some length about the use of the word "the" in English, but it is often omitted, let's just say that. Almost everyone gets it wrong and it is not the most important of my concerns. Also, French is famous for euphemism and in this kind of writing direct and simpple language is best. If you normally read English in bureaucratic or legal contexts it may differ from what I am trying to do here. My own writing has been criticized as too much in the opposite direction, but where, as here, there is a whole lot of material that will be unfamiliar to English speakers, it is best to err on the side of clarity.
Going to do a big push to try to get through this. If you are looking for something to work on may I suggest improving the Agriculture section? It turns out Mathglot had forgotten about it. 04:59, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Sorry for that :) What i dousually is adding the informationwithout caring too much how it's written, as not to forget what i should add next. I'll try to get more prudent in the future and thanks for your suggestions. I worked a bit on Agriculture, Urban population and Social structure sections. Right now i'll focus more on refs per Scope's remarks.
i am sorry but that comes across as rather dismissive. I have spent the last two months of my life correcting these same errors over and over again. But fine. I will let the GA reviewer fail the article for them because really, enough is enough. I wouldn't mind doing the work if it stayed done. Elinruby ( talk) 10:34, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Moving this here from article talk page: ust the ones i pointed out would be a start. Your spellcheck is apparently set to either French or Arabic. It almost certainly can be reset to English temporarily. But seriously, I think I am done. Kind of sad about it, but I can only fix the same mistakes in the same places so many times. Stepping away for my sanity. Maybe temporarily but I think not. I just can't keep doing this over and over and over and over and over. The question is less whether the information is important as why we are getting failed verification problems this far into the process? Sources need to verify what is in the text, not just vaguely similar concepts. If you don't understand that I don't know what to say.
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talk) 19:59, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
The function of quote marks is a much bigger systemic problem, since you have quote marks around text that is not in the source. Also, I don't know if you have processed that there are many many many entries on the talk page that require an Arabic speaker. But as you say, good luck to you. Elinruby ( talk) 23:22, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
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I've been asking questions about whether there is a way to prevent that. Getting blank stares. I realized after the fact that he probably wasn't a Pasha and the French article is fr:Baba Abdi Elinruby ( talk) 08:28, 27 April 2024 (UTC)