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I see you cleaned up the Bernard Lee article a little. The edit removed a number of quotation marks from the titles of news articles. The news article titles include the quote marks. I'm not sure is the MOS has a rule on this, but if the title of an article used is "Blind Man's Buff", shouldn't the Footnotes reflect that - regardless of whether the auto-format adds in a pair or not? The problem is that there are some articles which are referred to in the footnotes as "Blind Man's Buff" and some as ""Murder in Motley": A mystery in which the audience are involved". - SchroCat ( ^ • @) 06:32, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

I don't know the MOS policy on this, and am sorry to say I couldn't find it on a quick glance. But to hazard a guess, the usual US and UK style is to alternate single quotation marks with double quotation marks for a quotation within a quotation. "And then she told me, 'we're eating now.'" Bibliographies that I've done for academic papers have worked the same. Perhaps if you used a similar format here, AWB wouldn't pick it up as an error? If that doesn't seem appropriate to you, however, feel free to simply revert the edit. Cheers, Khazar2 ( talk) 13:30, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

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		Thanks for your recent contributions! 66.87.0.140 ( talk) 22:50, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

The reason the links don't go to the countries involved is that the links go to what they represent during simulation exercises. Tierra Del Diablo is Fort Irwin and Mojavia is the Mojave Desert. The Kingdom of Parumphia is Nevada, the People's Parumphian Army (PPA) is the Nevada National Guard, The People's Parumphian Guerrillas (PPG) and Parumphistan is a disputed territory between Nevada and California. The Republic of Baja is Mexico. The Russians / Krasnovians, Iraqis / Samarians, and North Koreans / Hamguls were simulated by the OPFOR and each distinct army had its own fake nationality, uniform and insignia. It is fascinating how intricate the play acting is. Hotspur23 ( talk) 04:03, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Is it possible this message is intended for someone else? The only edit I can remember making to anything Fort Irwin related is this removal of a space before a comma. [1] Khazar2 ( talk) 06:15, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

You may be interested in this. Not your usual cup of tea, as he's a lawmaker, but seems to be quite active in human rights. Crisco 1492 ( talk) 12:15, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

• Alright, I'm off to bed. Doesn't seem to need much more, just a lede, infobox, and good copyedit (maybe sections). Also, did you notice how someone messed with {{ reflist}} today? I think it looks like a mess. Crisco 1492 ( talk) 15:45, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good--I'll take a look later this afternoon (CST). Hadn't noticed the reflist yet but I'm just signing on for the morning... have to take a look. Khazar2 ( talk) 16:06, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

• Reflist seems to have been fixed. Thanks for looking into the article Crisco 1492 ( talk) 23:11, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

• It's a nice little article. I'll probably be moving it to main space when I get back from work; there seem to be more sources available though ` Crisco 1492 ( talk) 01:38, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

• Yep, I agree. I was glad to take a look, and kudos for getting an article up on yet another significant Indonesian figure... Khazar2 ( talk) 03:53, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

• Just sorry I can't help with people from outside the country (with non-English sources). Malaysia and Singapore, maybe. Timor L'Este, perhaps... but the others? :-( Crisco 1492 ( talk) 04:38, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

• Yeah, working on Wikipedia makes me really wish I'd picked up more Thai during my stays there. It'd be nice to be able to contribute that way--instead I have to keep a mental list of editors I can hit up to check non-English sources on various human rights defenders. Khazar2 ( talk) 04:51, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

• Mhm. A second or third language is almost always a blessing. Speaking of languages and translations, I just realised I've only got three more stories from Un Soir du Paris to go. Did another one yesterday. Crisco 1492 ( talk) 06:06, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

You're a machine! Looking forward to reading-- Khazar2 ( talk) 06:26, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Mhm. You have three in your inbox; I also sent my translation of "Lelaki" to Ucu, but she's busy shooting so she hasn't gotten back to me yet. Crisco 1492 ( talk) 06:33, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Khazar2, I had to smile when I saw your name and realized that it wasn't an old edit. Seems I always cross paths with you! Very good to see you back. And this time you have a 2 in the back of your name just like me (hahaha). Welcome back, Crtew ( talk) 05:06, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh yeah, please don't EVER leave again (hahaha), Crtew ( talk) 05:09, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Sir Tew--it's great to see you too. I continue to admire the great work your students are doing--I run into it everywhere. Please drop a note if there's any way I can ever help out. Khazar2 ( talk) 18:20, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

On 2 May 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Marzuki Darusman, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Indonesian politician Marzuki Darusman was burned in effigy in Sri Lanka for his investigation into that country's civil war? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Marzuki Darusman.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Panyd ^{The muffin is not subtle} 16:03, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

• BTW, if you want me to go diving for highbeam articles I may be able to help... hehe new superhero powers! Crisco 1492 ( talk) 05:47, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for all your work on articles related to human rights! I thought you might be interested in the story of this guy. The User 567 ( talk) 09:02, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

I am indeed--I've added it to my watchlist and may see what I can contribute in the coming days. Always glad to hear from a new user interested in human rights cases... if you ever have any questions on Wikipedia, feel free to drop a note here if they're not answered elsewhere... Khazar2 ( talk) 17:28, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Please read edit comments. Be sure typos really are before changing them. ⇔ ChristTrekker 14:25, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

I appreciate your letting me know of my error, but with respect, your suggestion to go through the edit history of each article before changing a one-letter typo is not realistic. The easiest solution is to tag it with a [ sic] template or a note to other editors in <-- invisible text --> that the unusual spelling is the correct one. Khazar2 ( talk) 17:26, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

It hadn't occurred to me until earlier today that this would be an easy solution to the problem. Done. ⇔ ChristTrekker 19:21, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

On 5 May 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tajul Muluk (religious leader), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Tajul Muluk, whose home and boarding school were burnt down by opponents of his preaching Shia Islam, was arrested for blasphemy? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Tajul Muluk (religious leader).You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Panyd ^{The muffin is not subtle} 00:04, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Hello! Your submission of Mohammed al-Maskati at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! LauraHale ( talk) 03:54, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi there, can you please confirm if Facilities and service planning is still an orphan? by William Emmanual | Send me a Message 05:24, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

 Done Khazar2 ( talk) 09:14, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

http://mobil.aftenposten.no/meninger/kommentarer/Dialog-uten-Store-6822100.html#.T6dj1J9YvMC

http://soundofhope.org/programs/162/216631-1.asp — Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.122.12.146 ( talk) 06:00, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

The first citation is a good start, but the second one may be pushing it for a reliable source; is it possible to find citations in globally recognized media? Khazar2 ( talk) 09:15, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

On 9 May 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Mahdi Abu Deeb, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Mahdi Abu Deeb was arrested, allegedly tortured, and sentenced to 10 years in prison due to his role in the 2011–2012 Bahraini uprising? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mahdi Abu Deeb.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber ( talk · contribs) 00:05, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

It's great to have someone review my edits. Thank you so much.

As for you question "how could funeral already continue for seven days when it's only 13 May now?", it should, in fact, be said that the funeral will be held for seven days. But it's my laziness to edit the sentence in the next seven days, so I wrote it in past tense. Ha ha, but please forgive me.

Once again, thank you and nice to know you :) -- Aristitleism ( talk) 18:45, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Ha, no problem--I'll be glad to reinsert that now! Thanks again for your help Khazar2 ( talk) 18:47, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for starting from zero. I have to say that I directly translated the article from that in Thai language, thinking that the existing English contents will later be added. But again, it's my laziness, for it is now 02:00 hours (2 am) in Thailand, so I think I will do that on the next day (I mean after I go to bed and wake up, ha ha). I once again ask for forgiveness, and would not mind if you make such addition. Good night :) -- Aristitleism ( talk) 18:58, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Yep, doing it now. It's no problem now that I realized what happened. Thanks again for your big expansion. It's a pleasure working with you! Khazar2 ( talk) 19:02, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

One more thing, you might see the contents about the four messages I hid in the 'Prosecution' section. Thai laws do not directly apply to Wikipedia, yet they apply to the persons in Thailand, including me. Even though the dissemination of a judicial decision or part thereof would not constitute an offence, but I wouldn't like to take a risk, especially in case of 'section 112'. I am a mere law student, and I still have nothing to fight against the powerful forces of the authorities. So, I hid the said contents, and if you find appropriate, you may publish them. -- Aristitleism ( talk) 19:14, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Good to know--thanks. I'll review that and see what I can do. Good night, and I'm very glad to meet you! Khazar2 ( talk) 19:16, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

I moved the first coherent request about why we can't link the terms to the top of the page. Let me know if you have a problem with this. Hasteur ( talk) 15:04, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Nope, seems sensible to me. Khazar2 ( talk) 16:01, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

I noted some of your recent comments and wanted to see if you saw this issue eye-to-eye with me. My personal view is that currently ITN is the most subjective and least professional segment of the WP main page, and by far. Sometimes you see blatantly non-notable articles posted, other times you see articles that are barely a skeleton, hastily constructed simply to fulfill the 'update' requirement, and other times yet you see perfectly good, encyclopedic articles rejected on very dubious grounds. There needs to be some sort of streamlining and balancing. DYK has a very good and objective evaluation process. OTD is standard encyclopedic fare. And FA represents the best of the best. What the hell is ITN? Just a sub-standard concoction of mob opinion. As it stands, I believe the ITN section is an embarrassment unbefitting of one of the world's top 10 most visited websites, not to mention it does not do much to advance our encyclopedic mission. Colipon+( Talk) 19:02, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Well, I half-agree with you. The subjective standards for posting seem very problematic to me, and I wish we were inviting new editors into more areas than just politics. I also wish we simply had lower standards for "newsworthiness" while maintaining standards for minimum update quality, just so we could have more turnover.

But while I understand the desire for a fully "polished" main page, I've long argued at DYK and elsewhere that posting less complete content to the main page can be one of the best ways to draw new editors into the encyclopedia. Obviously, this isn't an argument to post orange-tagged articles, BLP violations, etc., and I do bust my butt to see that I contribute as much to these articles as I can before they hit the main page. (Often my DYK noms would be 4 or 5 times the required length, for example).

But to give an example from my most recent ITN nom, terahertz radiation is a so-so article overall that just become the most popular BBC topic of the day when some researchers broke the wifi record. I was able to update the wi-fi reasonably well, but lack the technical ability to do the rest. Already, though, the potential for ITN has brought in two experts from WP:Physics to remove some dubious claims; if the article hits the main page, more experts will see it and improve it still further. The series of ITN posts on the 2012 Malian coup d'etat, for example, brought in several interested editors who appeared to be new to Wikipedia, but still made valuable contributions.

So I like the balance of having the FA as "finished" content, DYK as newer but polished content, and ITN as content that's currently expanding and may be rawer. The ITN articles almost always seem to get a good expansion, check, and revision by being on the main page, even if they're not perfect when they first get there. For me, that invitation to editing is what makes ITN (and to a lesser degree, DYK), so helpful. Khazar2 ( talk) 19:19, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Your idea about ITN attracting editors to improve articles is new and refreshing. I personally like it. In my proposed structure over at the Village pump: if our ITN articles are topic-based, and we get rid of the blurb, we can cover more content, downgrade the "Newsworthiness standard", and have much higher turnover. Under that system, I have no doubt that Terahertz radiation would pass as notable in the "science" topic area. But much more importantly, it will make ITN that much more encyclopedic, and not just a ticker about elections and sports. Perhaps we can work together on that idea?

Part of the trouble with Science articles failing to get posted is, in my view, because it is hard to come up with a sufficient and conclusive blurb. Let's say there is research on diabetes that has negated or validated a vast body of past research, and that it is getting a lot of coverage on Sci-am, Nature, etc. How do we come up with a blurb about it? We can't. The beauty of science is that it is ever evolving, but ITN demands a milestone or a conclusion (this many people died, X team won, this guy is elected). I believe that to become more encyclopedic, the blurb structure has to go. Colipon+( Talk) 02:25, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

It's an interesting point--I do like that idea of drawing in more people with more content. I'm trying to go light on "meta" areas of the wiki these days to focus on pure content creation (today's been an exception, obviously =)), but I am interested in seeing how this develops; feel free to drop me a note as things develop. Khazar2 ( talk) 02:40, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. The goal of this 'meta-discussion' is still obviously to create better avenues for content creation. Colipon+( Talk) 02:43, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I'm not knocking it--I'm grateful to you and others fighting the good fight to improve Wikipedia that way. Just a personal preference. =) Khazar2 ( talk) 02:51, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi. Just to explain; I'm not sure of what the deal is here, but "RookPost" is an anonymous automated news aggregator of some sort that someone has been spamming across Wikipedia. It doesn't contain anything that isn't copied from elsewhere, probably from legitimate news sources. So I've been removing the lot. They've been going for high profile articles with current news stories, often adding cites in the lead paragraph to things that are already more than adequately sourced. -- Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 21:03, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know; I'll keep an eye out. The information appeared to come from the AP obit, so I've replaced it with that. Khazar2 ( talk) 21:07, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Have you considered requesting adding them to the Wikipedia:Spam blacklist? Seems like a good case for it. Khazar2 ( talk) 21:09, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

		The In The News Barnstar
		Your recent article updates have been tremendously valuable. Bzweebl ( talk • contribs) 22:41, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I've had a good time doing them. Khazar2 ( talk) 22:48, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

There is no particular reason why I stopped here tonight. I have admired your Khazar/Khazar2's posted work for a long time, and would like to thank you for it. Thanks! Bigturtle ( talk) 02:55, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Shucks, you'll make me blush. Thanks for the kindness, Khazar2 ( talk) 02:57, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Hey! I removed it based on the documentation for the Cite News Template which states this:

"publisher: The publisher that publishes the news source (not to be used for the name of the news source itself; see the newspaper parameter). This is commonly omitted for major publications. In some instances (e.g. many UK newspapers), the publisher is the company or organization that owns the publication. In all American newspapers, the publisher is an individual person, whose name will be found on the masthead. There is never any need to cite this person in a reference. This parameter should normally be left blank."

If work italicizes it, maybe using newspaper won't? In any case, it does state in no uncertain terms that this parameter should normally be left blank. Why shouldn't BBC News be italicized? Thanks for your diligence though! Jeancey ( talk) 18:41, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know this; I'll raise the issue there. BBC News shouldn't be italicized because it's more a group than a publication--it covers radio, web, TV, etc.; if you do a quick Google search, you'll see that's it's not written with italics, even in the case of places with finicky style guides like The New York Times. So it does fall more under the category of "the company or organization that owns the publication". In any case, though, what 98% of Wikipedia users see is the reference displayed on the page rather than the template code itself. Anyway, I'll mention this on the page and see what reaction I get. Cheers, Khazar2 ( talk) 19:58, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for my barnstar for my work on The Spear (painting)! (My first ever!) It'll be shown proudly on my User page ... —Preceding undated comment added 06:11, 23 May 2012 (UTC).

My pleasure! If you keep developing articles like that one, I'm sure it'll be the first of many. Khazar2 ( talk) 06:35, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Hello General Khazar (which is how I secretly imagine you), I've created a long article about Abdulwahab Hussain one of the leaders of two Bahraini uprising (1990s and current). If you don't mind, could you take a look at the article and perhaps nominate it for DYK? Thanks. Mohamed CJ (talk) 22:39, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Well played, Mr. T, well played. I'll be glad to take a look later today/tomorrow, but am still steering clear of DYK. Don't be shy about nominating your own work over there, though; they're always glad to get more. Khazar2 ( talk) 23:13, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I was focused on other issues for awhile and didn't see your request for help on Mohamed Nasheed on the Human Rights project page until now. It looks like you've done a pretty good job. I read through it and didn't see any major issues, so I wanted to see if there were still areas that you'd like to see improved where I may be able to help. Keep up the good work. —Zujine| talk 18:30, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I think it's mostly up to speed now. Khazar2 ( talk) 18:31, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Hello, Khazar2. You have new messages at Wesley Mouse's talk page.
Message added 19:12, 26 May 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Wesley ☀ Mouse 19:12, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm afraid you happened to remove my previous changes in this edit. I therefore had to revert both your edit and those of another editor who happened to add to you corrupted version. I hope you'll be able to redo your edits without too much trouble. __ meco ( talk) 08:42, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Nope, no trouble. Sorry for the mistake! Khazar2 ( talk) 08:43, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

On 27 May 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ali al-Ghanmi, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that after a police raid, Ali al-Ghanmi, a Bahraini police officer, left his guard post and joined protests because he could no longer support "a killer institution"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ali al-Ghanmi.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Carabinieri ( talk) 16:06, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

On 29 May 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Mohammed al-Maskati, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that due to his role in the national uprising, Bahraini human rights activist Mohammed al-Maskati received a number of death threats? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mohammed al-Maskati.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Carabinieri ( talk) 00:03, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

	A token of gratitude for your work!
	Hey, thank you for your great work on WP! You're one of those usernames I get to see very often in the Recent News articles. I was impressed with your work on the Houla massacre! ComputerJA ( talk) 04:45, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! And thanks for your own contributions there, too. Khazar2 ( talk) 04:45, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

• Like —  Crisco 1492 ( talk) 04:50, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Cheers =) Khazar2 ( talk) 04:54, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

I've removed the recent content you added to the above named article, as there is still an on-going consensus discussion taking place at Talk:Eurovision Song Contest 2012#Criticisms and controversy regarding this matter. Before you continue adding these details, please participate in the consensus exercise. Thank You - Wesley ☀ Mouse 18:25, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Please cease re-adding the content, while there is still discussions taking place regarding this disputed content. Ignoring such requests is very disruptive. If you disagree with this, then please refer to the discussion taking place on the article talk page, and wait for an outcome to be reached. Wesley ☀ Mouse 18:33, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

There is no discussion taking place regarding my content, because you immediately removed it. Out of the three editors discussing, I see one who disagreed with the tone of the previous content, one who argued that human rights content should be included, and you. To say that you have a clear consensus to remove all human rights mentions from the article is absurd. Khazar2 ( talk) 18:35, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

The discussion is still on going - please be patient and allow things to take their course. This is a community project, and adding content that is being discussed about is classified as disruptive editing, and in some circumstance can be seen as an act of vandalism. Wesley ☀ Mouse 18:36, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I would also like to point out that I never said a discussion was taking place regarding your' content - I said a discussion is taking place regarding the main issue of human rights in general. The content you added comes under this same matter at hand. Wesley ☀ Mouse 18:38, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough. Given that the discussion seems to have mostly run aground on baggage related to specific policy violations of the previous content, I've started a new section for discussing the issue as a whole. Khazar2 ( talk) 18:43, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Wanted to commend you both for working through this topic on Eurovision. I had too many outside obligations to work on it (didn't even get to watch at all this year), but it was a very important issue, and I'm grateful to see it represented in the article now. Human rights issues unfortunately ofter garner heated debate, but coming out the other side, I think the article does a good job now of presenting it. Thank you both for your efforts. —Zujine| talk 16:31, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks--I'm glad it came to a consensus version, too. And thanks for your own edits on human rights topics! I've been glad to see your name pop up in several places lately. Khazar2 ( talk) 16:43, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

I can only commend all of you for continuing to work on this perspective. I posted on the talk page but I'm just too fed up with the subject (i.e. the competition) that I could endure seeing it through. __ meco ( talk) 17:15, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

	at my successful RFA
	Thank you, Khazar, for !voting at my successful RFA; I am humbled that you put your trust in me, although in another context I'd be worried about an enthusiastic stalker . I grant you this flower, which, if tended to properly, will grow to be the fruit of Wikipedia's labours. —  Crisco 1492 ( talk) 11:33, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Sounds tasty--I'll look forward to it. And congrats on the RfA. You're going to be great at this. Khazar2 ( talk) 14:28, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

• Hope so. —  Crisco 1492 ( talk) 14:53, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks so much for the beverage! It was one of those things, I was thinking, "Hmm, isn't this a major historical event?" *checks page history, there were no divisive arguments about whether the topic was notable or not, and actually no discussion at all* And then I look at the existing sections on it, and they were already pretty good, so why not split them? Oh, and it's kind of fun to write about such a divisive and mayhem-filled topic. CaseyPenk ( talk) 10:03, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I put in most of the current IPO subsection, but about two days into the story, it was clear that it was going to end up needing its own article. I'm glad you tackled it! Khazar2 ( talk) 10:43, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

On 8 June 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Abdul Samay Hamed, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that satirist Abdul Samay Hamed was attacked by a knife-wielding man, but succeeded in disarming his attacker? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Abdul Samay Hamed. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Graeme Bartlett ( talk) 08:03, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Good to see that, finally! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 08:32, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, it was a long road! And thanks for your help with it. Khazar2 ( talk) 15:17, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

	The Editor's Barnstar
	In thanks for your authorship of Bassem al-Tamimi; it's a fantastic article :). Keep up the good work! Ironholds ( talk) 23:32, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Hey, thanks! It was fun to write. Khazar2 ( talk) 01:38, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

• So yeah, awesome indeed! —  Crisco 1492 ( talk) 01:58, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
• Agreed, well-written article, well-deserved star. No surprise there. — Sctechlaw ( talk) 02:52, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks all! -- Khazar2 ( talk) 02:58, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

We have WP:CONSENSUS! :p. Ironholds ( talk) 06:56, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

On 12 June 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hamid Ghassemi-Shall, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that shoe salesman Hamid Ghassemi-Shall was sentenced to death because of an alleged e-mail? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hamid Ghassemi-Shall. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Yngvadottir ( talk) 16:02, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

This might be a helpful bit of trivia [2]. Homunculus ( duihua) 17:33, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Definitely seems helpful--thanks. You know, when I started reading this, I thought for a minute that it was a joke article. But of course, no satire is ever as bizarre as the grimness of real politics. Khazar2 ( talk) 23:11, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Hope you feel the strength to continue editing soon... always great to read your articles. —  Crisco 1492 ( talk) 01:45, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks man. =) Khazar2 ( talk) 01:47, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Thinking of you, and a date in July, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 07:43, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

• Best wishes for a quick return to good health Khaz. (we have a mutual friend is how I became aware of this). Chedzilla ( talk) 09:57, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

I just wanted to express my concern for you well-being. My best wishes for you! __ meco ( talk) 16:25, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks all! Should be back "full time" in a few days. =) Khazar2 ( talk) 05:18, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

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Graeme Bartlett ( talk) 16:02, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

A 11-year old boy was recently free after spending a month in jail. His case caught international attention. If you're interested, here are some references: [3], [4], [5], [6], [7].

I started a stub at Ali Hassan. Mohamed CJ (talk) 16:55, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Crazy. Thanks for the sources-- I'll try to pitch in soon. Khazar2 ( talk) 23:09, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Nice work on this one! I changed some picky stuff about the prose, but it looks solid. Khazar2 ( talk) 05:47, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

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	Keep up the good effort. And best wishes from Maldives. Ubufili ( talk) 21:34, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Khazar2 ( talk) 03:17, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

I looked into it; the first place I checked was Republika, which is historically based in conservative Islam, but it was a fairly neutral article (only one on the site). Kompas had a bit more, but it looks like a repeat of a source you used. All the sites I rely on are fairly neutral. —  Crisco 1492 ( talk) 12:31, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Cool--thanks for the additions. Khazar2 ( talk) 15:15, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Please add the photos of alex from: http://hariansinggalang.co.id/pelakunya-cpns-di-dharmasraya-ateis-minang-terbongkar/ and http://freethoughtblogs.com/maryamnamazie/2012/04/13/interview-with-alex-aan-indonesian-in-prison-for-insulting-islam/ and http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5rmfmMdrC1qjamtho1_1280.jpg

Alex have allowed it Thanks very much — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kureizhikun ( talk • contribs) 07:07, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Kureizhikun, and welcome to Wikipedia. You can see our image use policy at WP:IUP. Uploading images can be complicated, but if you are the copyright holder, or can demonstrate that you have permission from the copyright holder, the images would be a great addition to the article. Khazar2 ( talk) 19:09, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

How do you like today's good story (hidden message: "open mind"), awesome Wikipedian of 25 January 2012 ;) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 14:55, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

I was just looking over Chen Guangcheng as part of an ongoing interest in disability-releated articles and following this crazy idea. It looks like you've done some excellent work putting the article in great shape over the last few months - how do you feel about putting it forward (or seeing it put forward) as a good article maybe? Fayedizard ( talk) 15:43, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I think it's a fine idea if you're interested, but personally I've become skeptical of those processes; generally the drama quotient appears to me to outweigh the gain. If you want to try to see it through, I'd try to swing by and pitch in where I can, though. The article is surely close to ready in terms of completeness, but as pointed out on its talk page, still needs work to trim and smooth the escape/asylum sections, which accrued day-by-day during the saga and would be better re-written as a coherent overview. Khazar2 ( talk) 14:01, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

I hear that - I occasionally find myself becoming deeply cynical about the pluses and stars, but I'm feeling pleasently optimistic at the moment - I've got some time this weekend so I'll go though deeply and see about a nomination. :) Fayedizard ( talk) 18:27, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Hey - I've done a certain about of editing (trimming mainly - and a certain about of making the text fit the sources) - and I'm planning to put it up as a GA later today (there's a drive on and it would be good to catch the end of that...) let me know if you have any thoughts :) Fayedizard ( talk) 09:14, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Looks good--the trimming worked well. I did some minor copyediting, but there's still a few citation needed tags in the article I can't easily do anything about. Maybe checking old human rights watch or amnesty International docs would turn some information up? I'd suggest trying to tackle those right away or seeing if the information can be removed; it probably can't pass with those there. Khazar2 ( talk) 15:25, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

I just expanded on the sections concerning Chen's early life and activism — please take a look. I feel that those sections were (and probably still are) somewhat underdeveloped relative the rest of the page. I may also try my hand at smoothing out some of the other sections in the next couple days as time allows. Homunculus ( duihua) 02:58, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Looks really good to me--thanks for tackling that! Khazar2 ( talk) 14:43, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Re your recent good faith edit to this list. Did you not see the {{ under construction}} at the top of the list? I'm still working on the expansion of the list and hope to complete it in the next day or so. Once I'd finished the expansion, I'd have done clean-up such as ordering refs so that they appear in numerical order. With the various lists of shipwrecks by year, please do not add a line break between individual dates. These lists work fine with a line break at the end of the month. Lists of shipwrecks by month are broken at each date. Mjroots ( talk) 05:25, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Apologies--as indicated by my edit summary, I was using AWB at the time, which doesn't always display the full article in the upper section, so I didn't see the template. I was mainly going after that typo and felt the reference ordering would be a bonus; if you feel it was disruptive, happily, any damage I did can be undone by reverting with a pair of mouse clicks. Cheers, Khazar2 ( talk) 05:47, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Not disruptive, but more a waste of your time. I don't mind people such as youself correcting typos - I make plenty enough of them myself. No harm done. Mjroots ( talk) 18:36, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Cheers, and thanks for fixing up that article. -- Khazar2 ( talk) 20:51, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

A convert who allegedly is a trained bombmaker for Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula— Abu Abdurrahman - al Faranghi.

Is more info needed? -- Vistamesa ( talk) 12:33, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry to say I'm not sure what you mean--is this in regards to a previous conversation somewhere (and if so, where at?)? Thanks, Khazar2 ( talk) 12:40, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Propped it up by 1k characters, much of the content from his KPK profile. —  Crisco 1492 ( talk) 07:27, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Looks terrific--a much better overview of his life. Thanks as always for the help. Khazar2 ( talk) 16:15, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Incidentally, I started a related article on Bambang's boss Abraham Samad if you're interested in that, too. Cheers, Khazar2 ( talk) 16:53, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

• I'll pop in. I guess Samad hasn't received much international attention (oddly enough). —  Crisco 1492 ( talk) 00:45, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

• I trust this is acceptable. I agree with ICW: sparse. —  Crisco 1492 ( talk) 01:51, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

• Great stuff! Always a pleasure collaborating. Khazar2 ( talk) 04:36, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

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Graeme Bartlett ( talk) 08:03, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

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Orlady ( talk) 00:04, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello. Thank you for fixing my typos in the above mentioned article. It is great to know that someone is paying attention. ( Galaxycat ( talk) 00:04, 10 July 2012 (UTC))

My pleasure! Thank you for working on it. Khazar2 ( talk) 02:06, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi there,

I undid your recent AWB edit to the article mentioned in the title. Your edit summary said you were fixing typos, but you actually removed a large amount of information from references throughout the article. Please double check your AWB settings before you start it up. Regards, MacMed ^talk _stalk 16:20, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

I appreciate your double-checking my work, but in this case all that happened was that the references were tagged as identical; Wikipedia allows references to be named so that instead of listing, say, the New York Times profile on LR five times, it can be listed once with all five occurrences directing to it. You can read more at MOS:REF, Repeated Citations. I've gone ahead and restored the condensed version for now, but if information has really disappeared that I'm not seeing, please do let me know and I'll investigate more closely. Thanks, Khazar2 ( talk) 18:00, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

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Will do, thanks. Khazar2 ( talk) 05:01, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks--looks tasty-- Khazar2 ( talk) 06:59, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

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Graeme Bartlett ( talk) 08:02, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

This is the greatest news around here: new precious life! All the best to the growing family! Kiss your two ladies gently ;) - The 14 July words "Allons enfants" carry a completely new meaning. Is her name Juillet? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 13:32, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Ha! No, but we did get a kick out of the Bastille Day connection. If she had been a boy, I might have made a last minute push for being named for Woody Guthrie (100th anniversary of his birth). Thanks! Khazar2 ( talk) 13:52, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

• Yeah, congratulations Khazar! Definitely time for a well-deserved break! —  Crisco 1492 ( talk) 13:57, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I predict a lot of one-armed editing in my immediate future. Khazar2 ( talk) 14:22, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

• Indeed. Don't forget to start small; she shouldn't learn templating before Wikilinking. —  Crisco 1492 ( talk) 14:32, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

=) We'll probably start out somewhere around WikiProject:Fussing and Lullabies. Khazar2 ( talk)

Congratulations! I don't know what else to say! Mohamed CJ (talk) 14:43, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Khazar2 ( talk) 17:03, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Can you please show me in which of the referenced references in your recent edit on UNRWA the quote by Brown is used? There are three references in the passage. Part of the passage you included - "The new books have removed the anti-Semitism present in the older books while they tell history from a Palestinian point of view."

• http://electronicintifada.net/content/myth-incitement-palestinian-textbooks/5626#.TqMhmLKNOuI - the passage involving Brown uses the word "anti-Semitism" but not the rest of the passage you wrote.
• https://web.archive.org/web/20120415032604/http://www.pcdc.edu.ps/brown_research_summary.htm - again mentions "anti-Semitism" but not with the rest of the passage you wrote.
• https://web.archive.org/web/20050318214051/http://www.edume.org/react/brown1.htm - only 1 match for "anti-Semitism" and not with the rest of the quoted passage.

I also am confused why this long paragraph is given such weight, while the previous paragraph about CMIP doesn't even contain any quotes. Furthermore, how come CMIP's response to this isn't given either ( http://web.archive.org/web/20050318214051/http://www.edume.org/react/brown1.htm)? Thirdly, why are the views of a professor doing a short summary as he writes in the first reference given such heavy weight and such a long paragraph, as though they knock out what CMIP wrote in their report, and as though this is a lengthy and time-consuming research project with a lot of resources invested? Fourthly, why is Electronic Intifada referenced and used as a source of information, when just reading the article they wrote (they are not a media outlet) shows how opinionated and biased they are (which they don't hide either, the site is not founded to be neutral but rather is anti-Israel) and is clearly not an RS, and what they write should not be taken at face value. For these reasons, I would appreciate either an explanation or a revert... -- Activism 1234 00:06, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Please note - it's also possible this is a misunderstanding. In this diff, it seems like you added the paragraph I am talking about. Yet according to this, you removed 105 bytes. But if that whole paragraph was added, it isn't possible that bytes were removed (the only other edits there were minor punctuation)... Please clear this up for me! Thanks. -- Activism 1234 00:41, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi Activism, Yes, this is a case where AWB simply removed a space between paragraphs, causing the second to appear as "new" material. Sorry for any confusion. Cheers, Khazar2 ( talk) 01:14, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Ok sorry if it appeared as though I blamed or accused you, that wasn't my intention. That definitely clears things up. -- Activism 1234 01:39, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Not at all--Wikipedia needs much more double-checking of this kind! Cheers, Khazar2 ( talk) 07:49, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi, thank for the clean up on A Weaver on the Horizon. Can I ask a favor, of can you see if my other article Bu Bu Jing Xin needs some clean up? Thanks.-- NeoBatfreak ( talk) 21:04, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

I put it through AWB and didn't catch anything. Cheers, Khazar2 ( talk) 21:08, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting the misspelling "jewelery" in the Louis Comfort Tiffany, however, probably inadvertantly, you changed it to the British spelling "jewellery" instead of the American spelling "jewelry". Per WP:ENGVAR, as the subject of the article is American, it is written in American English. I've corrected it now. Thanks. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 01:25, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Great--thanks for letting me know, Khazar2 ( talk) 02:44, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Just a heads up that youre article is on ITNC.( Lihaas ( talk) 15:52, 29 June 2012 (UTC)).

Thanks, commented there. Khazar2 ( talk) 18:36, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Just a heads up to User_talk:Remzone#Edit_summaries, the user is edit warring and ignoring idiscussion. Ive warned him, but we should keep an eye out. There is also a contradiction in the casualties now.( Lihaas ( talk) 11:38, 30 June 2012 (UTC)).

Thanks...was so bred today i kept waiting to see what others added and in the process added stuff. Enjoyed the research (a la Guinea Bissau and the early days of Mali).

Sat. night and i ahvent had a drink yet ;(( Lihaas ( talk) 20:19, 30 June 2012 (UTC)).

Even better;)

btw- could you fix the combatants asterisks for the first 2 on the said page?( Lihaas ( talk) 20:32, 30 June 2012 (UTC)).

Maybe--I'll take a look in a few minutes. Got a lot of tabs open at the moment. =) Khazar2 ( talk) 20:33, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Not sure how to solve that, unfortunately. Khazar2 ( talk) 20:56, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Me too, so many tabs open, i dont know what i had to edit ;)

btw- as an aside, just generally felt quite happy.proud of the foresight articles i created like Tawakel Karman (6 months before the nobel) and MOJWA...unfortunately the massive expanstion of STL and Guinea-Bissau dint get the coverage it deserved( Lihaas ( talk) 11:59, 1 July 2012 (UTC)).

Also please see talkpage rename proposal Lihaas ( talk) 14:50, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

We could then also GA hthis when its done Lihaas ( talk) 19:01, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Sure--I think it's surely complete enough. I don't get involved much at GA but I'll try to pitch in if you take it there. Khazar2 ( talk) 20:37, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Along those lines, can you be a second pair of eyes? Just to check for OL , grammar,etc.

After that we could sart a GA?

Per WP:GA? quickfail #5 could be a hindrance BUT theres NO definate endpoint Lihaas ( talk) 12:30, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

The above mentione duser has had more than a fair taling to and continues to ignore on both the battle page and the rebellion page. WHAT recurse do we have? ANI/block? Lihaas ( talk) 23:32, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

I agree that Remzone's been hasty in some moves, but she/he's also new. For now I'd suggest just patience and direct contact; so far she/he seems to be abiding by 3RR, so as long as other editors are still trafficking the page, he/she shouldn't be able to override consensus editing. Khazar2 ( talk) 00:23, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Agree with you, and so far weve been quite patient with the comments on his page. However, Talk:Battle_of_Gao#Because_it_needs_to_be_said is a NPA and more. And it comes after warnings...thats a bit worrying. But so far were holdng on to see what consensus on the move is (making progress, i think). He also dint undersand the sourcing but we worked with him.

btw- i wasnt warring with you...it was ( edit conflict) ;) Lihaas ( talk) 18:42, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

And thanks for communicateing better ;) Lihaas ( talk) 18:52, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Just a heads up that this is repetitiously unsourced and/or unexplained/ poorly explained. However, after several warnings if he refuses to adhere to discussion on either the move or otherwise, i think time has come to let an admin take a look and give him a more stern warning. Lihaas ( talk) 01:12, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Sure, your call. Khazar2 ( talk) 01:16, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Think we should move to Capture of hGao and Timbuktu.

Also Wikipedia:Peer review/Battle of Gao and Timbuktu/archive1, see if you can ge to some. Ill do the rest. Secon dpair of eyes is best Lihaas ( talk) 16:01, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

I think it'd be better to hold off on the move until a wider consensus is found; right now there's two in favor and two against.. I wonder if the solution here might be to rename this article something like "MNLA--Ansar Dine conflict" and allow it to be a catchall for this stage of the conflict, which is basically what it's turned into anyway. Khazar2 ( talk) 09:20, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Could do tat? Whant to suggest it there?

Also  Done the peer review bit. Just one issue left, ou can check it out Lihaas ( talk) 11:13, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

as an aside can you mark Rajesh Khanna at ITN as ready? Lihaas ( talk) 20:08, 20 July 2012 (UTC)