Please semi-protect Rage Against The Machine (album). The release date for this article has been changed so many times, it has caused guests nothing but confusion. I propose that the release date is kept at November 1992 (no date of November, just the month) and then semi-protected so that only registered users can edit it. -- Sky Attacker ( talk) 10:27, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
About deleting my page...
Please kindly tell me if you have read my last post in Karheim talk page, as i posted it just 10seconds before it has been deleted :( and tell me if your decision based on this or not..
it was about osram sylvania full kit, from its official site, which another user claimed it is illegal..is osram illegal? if i add these infos in osram wikipedia, will this removed?
Thanks in advance..we all thank you about the work you do for us in wikipedia
Psikxas —Preceding unsigned comment added by Psikxas ( talk • contribs) 01:34, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Jayron32 you are very kind to me, a new user, and really appreciate your help. ive read to companies site that managed to produce bulb size for xenon kits other than these of d2s, thats why i though it worths been listed here. Ive also tried to post company slogan, as maybe Mcdonalds slogan appear here, so as, if anyone want to know about the slogan, cant he search in wikipedia for it? Finally, as it was one of my first posts, though other users could complete it if it is mentioned as "advertisment" at first in order to become suitable for posting here.
Is there such and ability, to un-delete my post temporary (and leave as less infos as you think), and leave the community correct or even report the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Psikxas ( talk • contribs) 01:44, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Okay, i must admit in public that Jayron32 is an admin here in order to HELP US! And he is doing it EXCELLENT.
Thanks Jayron!
Psikxas ( talk) 01:56, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
I appreciate the blocks you have handed out in response to vandals personally attacking me. Top-notch work buddy, thanks very much! talk ProSpider 04:18, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I apologize. I asked in the Wikipedia IRC channel if normal users can post warnings regarding other users and they told me to go ahead. The user I "warned" has tried to make articles about himself in the past and I just thought I'd let him know that Wikipedia is not really meant for that, but rather for editing and contributing to Wikipedia. I didn't mean to cause anything disruptive. -- Judgespearmkii ( talk) 05:06, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Greetings, Jayron32. Thank you for speedy deleting Karheim. Please take note that it looks very much as though we are dealing with a puppetmaster and a couple of socks; see SPI. Furthermore, it seems to me this user (under however many names s/he has assumed) may be using this subpage for promotional purposes by means of direct links to it on non-Wikipedia pages. Was userification necessarily warranted here? — Scheinwerfermann T· C06:37, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Really, Scheinwerfermann, have you anything personal with me? 1.You deleted every evidence i provided in your talk page from Osram that pointed you didnt tell the whole truth that HID lamps are illegal from your talk page. Xm... 2.Why other admins here are helpful and kind?? 4.Am i the ONLY user one here who has a personal subpage? 5.To Jayron32: However, if admin Jayron32 thinks im violating any policy by having personal page till i finish it and thinks he made a HUGE mistake as an admin as Scheinwerfermann says, feel free to do anything needed . Admin Jayron32 gained already my repsect!
Psikxas ( talk) 09:37, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Jayron32, i dont know now what to do. Remove the page? Correct it? Please remove any infos you may think from the page, remove the whole page or leave it as it is till SPI finishes. I dont want to cause any trouble to you from a single article here because you restored it... so take any actions you may think! Psikxas ( talk) 01:31, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello Jayron32,
Ive read everything you provided to me and think im back better,i know better wikipedia's policy, really thank you. Now im working on my userpage. Please have a look at it and kindly tell me your opinion, if i am on a good way, if its notable/neutral etc.Really trying hard for it, believe me. I dont want to bother you all the time, so ill do nothing till you have time and i hear from you.
For one more time, i apologize for any troubles i caused to you and all the responses you had to give because of me... Psikxas ( talk) 01:42, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
" Internet homicide" has commenced at Talk:Internet_homicide#Name. ↜Just me, here, now … 20:48, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello, this is concerning my aritcle "10/26/1986" which you deleted a few days ago. I understand that the article is not exactly wikipedia material however it was written as an assignment for college and I need to show what I wrote to my professor. Can I at least have a copy of it please so I can submit it to my professor, I will not attempt to re submit it on wikipedia. Unfortunately I have been givin until today at 5:00pm to submit so a speedy response is extremely appreciated. thank you. Tyler Healy. Uncannyfish. Uncannyfish ( talk) 15:44, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Dear Jayron32,
In various parts of the internet, people are often encouraged to "lurk more" before doing anything, to avoid the annoyance of having to deal with Newbies. I have lurked enough to be familiar with everything, so that I do not inconvenience others. If you have any other questions, please ask. Sincerely, Myownusername ( talk) 01:52, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
I am a fast learner. If you have any other concerns I would be happy to address them Myownusername ( talk) 01:57, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
I would report it to Sockpuppetry peopl but I figure might as well get an opinion first User:Qweqwewert user:59.105.23.90 user:Liu Tao all make the same edits, and therefor looksl ike a sockpuppet case, buit, 1: i don't remember where to report it. It very obviously is the same person, look at History of Kuomintang and Liu Tao's talkpage.-- Jakezing (Your King ( talk) 12:53, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi Jayron,
I have reverted 3 times on
M24 Sniper Weapon System and won't touch it again for a while but there is a Russian bloggist insistent on using his site as a reference. I'm trying to get him to the talk page instead of pushing it in again. I don't want to go too far so this is out of my hands for now. Cheers,
⋙–Berean–Hunter—► (
(⊕)) 04:34, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello, I hope you are doing well. I am sending you this message since you are a member of the GA WikiProject. I would like to invite you to consider helping with the GA sweeps process. Sweeps helps to ensure that the oldest GAs still meet the criteria, and improve the quality of GAs overall. Unfortunately, last month only two articles were reviewed. This is definitely a low point after our peak at the beginning of the process when 163 articles were reviewed in September 2007. After nearly two years, the running total has just passed the 50% mark. In order to expediate the reviewing, several changes have been made to the process. A new worklist has been created, detailing which articles are left to review. All exempt and previously reviewed articles have already been removed from the list. Instead of reviewing by topic, you can consider picking and choosing whichever articles interest you.
We are always looking for new members to assist with the remaining articles, so if you are interested or know of anybody that can assist, please visit the GA sweeps page. In addition, for every member that reviews 100 articles or has a significant impact on the process, s/he will get an award when they reach that threshold. If only 14 editors achieve this feat starting now, we would be done with Sweeps! Of course, having more people reviewing less articles would be better for all involved, so please consider asking others to help out. Feel free to stop by and only review a few articles, something's better than nothing! Take a look at the list, and see what articles interest you. Let's work to complete Sweeps so that efforts can be fully focused on the backlog at GAN. If you have any questions about the process, reviewing, or need help with a particular article, please contact me or OhanaUnited and we'll be happy to help. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 ( talk • contrib) 08:19, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
From time to time, I'm away for a couple of days at a time, after which I try to catch up with my favorite RefDesks on my return. All through that article, I'm thinking to myself ... where's the dead cat ... somebody has to swing a dead cat ... man, where are these people from, anyway (that they don't swing a dead cat).
So, thanks for adding the reference to one of my favorite phrases! (I get some really funny looks when I try to use than in Europe, though.) -- DaHorsesMouth ( talk) 22:21, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
NOMINATE ME FOR ADMIN, COME ON MAN DO IT. This is partially because i wanna try to do it, and i want ot see if it snowballs against me partially, at which point I'll call a lot of people biased and unforgiving.-- Jakezing (Your King ( talk) 05:59, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
clarie the movie
_______________________________________
aparently you don't watch the hallmark channel, cause clarie was on the hallmark channel,the reason it was so short is because i forgot what the
movie was all about, but i remembered bits and pieces of the movie, i am going to write it again and try to remember the rest of the movie, thanks for the help.
Kaybugg1 (
talk) 18:57, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I am having a dispute with an IP editor in the AKM article whi is edit warring, his talk page reveals that he was previously blocked for doing the same, by yourself. I've warned him and the editor continues to disrupt the page, refusing to discuss. Oh, it is User talk:69.141.140.192 Koalorka ( talk) 15:40, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
The article doesn't say.
I'm interested, because I need to explain the benefits in the guideline on outlines I'm writing. (Outlines are a type of tree structure).
I've also asked the question at various reference desks, and these threads may help to jump start your brain on this question. :)
What benefits have you noticed?
How are Wikipedia's outlines useful to you?
I look forward to your answers on my talk page.
The Transhumanist 04:43, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi Jayron You refuse my request for unblock on the above-someone else reverted it. Please, if you have time, read the rant on that talk page at the bottom as it explains what is going on-I really need help No hard feelings Yonteng ( talk) 20:14, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
This project needs another shot in the arm.
So here it goes...
I've contacted all 59 members of the Countries WikiProject to help in designing and conducting contests for the further development of the country outlines.
You are invited too.
The guidelines and outline article still aren't complete.
Which means you will be needed to help explain to the newcomers mentioned above what outlines are and how to develop them.
Please participate in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries#Hosting country coverage contests.
The Transhumanist 22:28, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Greetings, Jayron32. In reference to Psikxas ( talk · contribs) (sockpuppet smackdown [ [1]], MfD here), please take note that his company's logo ( File:Karheim.jpg) was deleted today (copyvio: corporate logo, not text only), and Psikxas immediately re-uploaded the very same image with a new title and replaced it on his user-page-cum-billboard. I am running out of ability to assume this user is acting in good faith, what do you think? Sock puppets, numerous violations of behavioural protocol, putting his commercial pseudo-article on his front userpage, and now these copyvio logo shenanigans just don't add up to anything but a persistent attempt to use Wikipedia for promotional purposes. — Scheinwerfermann T· C05:11, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey Jayron32!
I am new to wikipedia. I've made random edits anonymously, and I have successfully added links and references to a couple articles. I want to learn more about making wikipedia a better place.
I was hoping you could be my mentor, and help me out as I stumble through figuring wikipedia out.
Do you have any suggestions on where I should start honing my skills?
Thank you
StNicksRocks ( talk) 06:34, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Jayron32! I'm starting off with Copy-Editing. This is the article I'm currently working on:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Italy How am I doing so far?
I also want to learn more about patrolling for Vandalism.
Hope you're well,
StNicksRocks ( talk) 05:17, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I saw that you are currently adopting. I hope that is still correct. I am completely lost and feel inundated with info! I am trying to write my first article. I have been and am in the process of reading the instructions. Good GOD there are a lot of instructions! I want to do this, and really want it to be done well! But no matter how hard I try to play around in the sandbox, try understanding the set up of various, well written wiki's to get a clue on how to simply write one, aside from all the rules, tips, links and suggestions, I am overwhelmed and lost. Can you help?
My name is Nicole and user name is NHearn. This is my first wiki experience and I have been just trying to figure out where to even start for 3 weeks. I am not usually a slow learner, so I think maybe I need help... Let me know. Thank you! NHearn ( talk) 19:26, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey there! It's your adoptee :) with questions once again.
Few questions and one fav to ask if you have time to help. I have worked hard to remove peacock language from my wiki in my sandbox: User:NHearn/Sandbox, and try to avoid making it sound like an advertisement.I really am just trying to give kind of a company bio breakdown.I understand the issues and why it is so important to write with an impartial unbiased tone. Plus, I don't want to run into WP delete issues somewhere along the road, especially since I've been working on this for a while now. Can you take a look at my wiki and give me any content and formatting suggestions. I still have a few things to do before I will be ready to post the final content to its own page:
1. Categorize it: I've read...and read....and read........ a. How do I link it to a category? b. How do I choose a category? c. Do I choose all applicable categories (more than one), or just one? 2. I have been given auth. by owner of all copyrighted content to use and let wiki use, with full GFDL, but... a. Who do I direct that authorization to? b. Does it need to be emailed? c. What does the release need to contain, and exactly who is supposed to send it. (Yes, I've read, I'm just a bit lost.....sorry.) d. And do I need to add one of the Copyright images to the page, if so, where? 3. a. How exactly do I add an image to the wiki? I have read all over W.Commons, and signed up, only to find out I can't use it for W.Pedia.... b. If I can, how? 4. When you have time, could you take a look and help me with this?
So..... I feel like a major pain ... but cannot thank you enough for your help. I promise, I have looked for these answers. But there are so many answers and options, that I just become confused even more at times. Thank you again. Have a lovely weekend! NHearn ( talk) 21:48, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, File:Mike Holovak.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. ViperSnake151 Talk 20:39, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading File:Holovak2.jpg. You don't seem to have said where the image came from, who created it, or what the copyright status is. We require this information to verify that the image is legally usable on Wikipedia, and because most image licenses require giving credit to the image's creator.
To add this information, click on this link, then click "Edit this page" and add the information to the image's description. If you need help, post your question on Wikipedia:Media copyright questions.
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Thank you for your cooperation. -- ImageTaggingBot ( talk) 02:06, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
1. How do I reply to your comments/response other than starting an entirely new topic? 2. THANK YOU for your help! It IS greatly appreciated! 3. I thought I was working in the "sandbox" these last few weeks and have been actually writing ACTUAL wikis OOPS! I'm not sure where this sandbox is, but am beginning to feel dummer by the second. 4. The article is on the history of a company in Kansas. I am usually good at writing unbiased, even when familiar w/topic, and can be objective. I have no idea how to edit without screwing it up completely. Which I would not want to be done to my hard work. Since I can't find the instructions or key to all the html or whatever it is that is used to format (aside from the tool bar at the top), I'm not sure what to do. Do I need to learn to write HTML code first?
Thanks and sorry for the extent of issues. Your help is greatly appreciated! NHearn ( talk) 13:53, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello again, I need some help at the List of Days of our Lives cast members page. An IP, starting with 74.216... keeps editing mercessily there, adding unsourced information, and ignoring the hidden warnings. You protected the page from IP editing a few weeks ago, and it doesn't look like there is enough to do it again, but I do need some help in dealing with this individual. The IP changes every time (of course), and he/she removes the hidden tags. Any help you could give would be most appreciated. Rm994 ( talk) 15:57, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
IP's are relentlessly disrupting List of Days of our Lives cast members page. I need your help again. Thank you so much! Rm994 ( talk) 19:09, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi Jayron32. I noticed you're name at WP:PRV. I was wondering whether you could peer review the 1995 Brazilian Grand Prix article for me, leaving you're comments here. If you could make any comments at the PR, that'd be great. Kind regards, D.M.N. ( talk) 17:04, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Maybe...
I was experiencing mental block on the article draft for "outline" and on the outline guideline draft. And this was holding the whole project back. Without these (which are intended to explain the type of lists known as outlines in detail), the danger is higher that a controversy could go the wrong way.
I requested help on them, but there was none forthcoming.
So I went ahead and started us on the next phase of operations without those 2 pages...
Our AWB'ers and I have placed about 1600 notices all over Wikipedia. And the plan is to place several thousand more.
This generated only one complaint, but it was a very vocal one, and attracted a few other detractors who seemed unfamiliar with the concept of hierarchical outlines and their benefits. However, just as many or more editors came to the defense of the OOK, and there was no consensus formed. But, dab is still trying to rally opposition to outlines at the Village Pump. See below...
It appears that the banner placed on the talk page of the Outline of Switzerland caught the attention of an editor named Dbachmann who posted a rather forceful message on my talk page, another on WT:WPOOK, another at WP:VPP, and still another at WP:AN!
He went well out of his way to use negative hype to cause a stir.
It appears that Mr. Bachmann doesn't understand the nature of hierarchical outlines and their applications. And though he implied that he has never seen an OOK outline before, he was involved with a discussion on these when they were called "lists of basic topics".
His primary argument is that outlines are content forks of articles, and violate WP:CFORK.
But "topic lists", of which outlines are a type, have been around for almost as long as Wikipedia, and fall under the WP:LISTS and WP:STAND guidelines. They aren't intended as forks, as they are lists, bringing the benefits of lists to the corresponding subjects, such as grouping and navigation.
Someone suggested an MfD, but lists are articles, and are within the jurisdiction of AfD. Only the portal page, which merely lists the outline articles, falls within the scope of the MfD department.
The administrator's noticeboard was considered the wrong venue for the discussion, and the discussion was closed.
But Dab's discussion at the Village Pump is still active. Hopefully level heads will prevail there too.
Am I disheartened or deterred? Hell no. I say "full steam ahead!"
But we really need to finish the article draft and the guideline. Otherwise there will continue to be confusion.
Over the next week or two, we'll be posting another 1600 or so notices. It's a good thing we didn't send out 10,000 of them all at once. :)
The Transhumanist 23:41, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
P.S.: Another related thread has popped up at WP:VPR#OoK's expediency. --TT 04:34, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Uhh...thanks, I guess. I've never even heard of the Barnstar of Integrity before, let alone gotten one. No, I just have gotten better at seeing what are important and encyclopedic on here. The CBS Mandate isn't one of those items. Hey, we all have to start somewhere. Jgera5 ( talk) 03:23, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi Jayron32.
please kindly tell me if its possible to restore article with latest changes from userspace to mainspace of wikipedia. THANKS for any help provided to me from EARLY beggining, and promise to you ill do my best to make wikipedia better! Psikxas ( talk) 20:16, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. Some personal attacks go too far. APK lives in a very, very Mad World 01:38, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi Jayron32. You always guide me what to do next..so after this experience here from karheim and after another bad one similar to this,
after reviewing shoei, Schuberth, Suomy ... tell me :
1. what makes the above article notable? Why references to official websites ONLY make these articles here "reliable", and whatever i create dont?
Are all these articles based to official articles "reliable" and mine isnt?
2. arent these pages based ONLY on companies' official website for refference ? why, even if they are not as you ask "independent of the company itself", can be on mainspace, but mine cant?
I can put hundrend of articles here, which are based to companies site ONLY...i searched for such articles on wikipedia, and based on these, i tried to create mine. I thought that articles in mainspace follow some rules in order to stay there, but its not enough i suppose...
Cause i made the mistake and argued with an admin,which i even do not know and have nothing personal..i even said thinks for him i dont mean always and im sorry...after all this, i feel "undesirable" here :(((....for real.. Psikxas ( talk) 16:23, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
As you probably can see, ive started another article about lazer helmets...And has been deleted too...Even if i could provide sources from newspapers, from UK government etc based on the experience i gained from you and from karheim...
As you can see, nobody has written about shoei, Schuberth, Suomy,showing that outside of itself and Wikipedia, people have written about it extensively, showing that both above articles and companies are NOT notable, but these articles are here!!! Isnt?
I could add refferences that my lazer_helmet article is about a notable company, many more reference than other helmet manufacturers i mentioned, but article deleted! Isnt it unfair or not?
Or dont you think sharp.gov.uk , goverment UK organization is notable?
Or even Motorcycle_News? As and admin, you can better than me find out how many articles point to this newspaper as a refference! just see this lazer helmets - MCN about lazer helmets
Adding this to what happened to my first article, what i can now understand is that you are 100% right about karheim, i think it is unfair that my other article about lazer deleted , and last that many many many many articles in wikipedia are not notable, are not based on external sources, but they are here cause likely or unlikely another admin didnt acted. I accept that..i have not luck ..xexe...
But you do perfect your job, so, hope future articles will fall under your attention and will not appear such injustice cause other admins didnt do they job. Exactly, to be honest, i was reviewng articles i mentioned to you,thought that if they were here, similar articles should also. Didnt thought that these other articles shouldn be there, but nobody mentioned them. My mistake was that based on these i argued with other admin..anyway... Thanks for any advice Jayron32 :) Psikxas ( talk) 18:46, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
[2] Just leave him be. There's no problem with him blanking, or insulting us while no one is listening, for that matter.-- chaser ( talk) 22:16, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello! Your submission of Bill Szymczyk at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Smallman12q ( talk) 00:00, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
As a contributor to Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content/RFC_on_use_of_sports_team_logos, you have been included in a request for formal mediation regarding the subject at Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Use of Sports Logos. With your input and agreement to work through mediation, it is hoped we can achieve a lasting solution. -- Hammersoft ( talk) 13:39, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
May 27 you were able to comment on Is a Freedom of Information request OR? What was not specifically asked was this
DEC Ministerial correspondence is outgoing and thus to the Friends of Marble Hill President Incorporated under the Friends of Parks Inc thus answerable to we the people via OCBA Office of Consumer and Business Affairs, not an "Email", not "interdepartmental" correspondence. Could specific comment be made on this reference as a reliable source? Mifren ( talk) 01:51, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Dravecky ( talk) 02:21, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Somebody change Grace Mugabe's birthyear from 1964 to 1965, and didn't cite. another guy changed Paul Kagame's birthdate from October 23 to 27 unsource statement. I doubt it is the same guy (happene on 11/08/2008). The guy who mess Grace Mugabe up happen on 2/19/2009 when source said 1965 this guy changed to 1964. 206.255.186.75 have 7 warnings on his talkpage but only white flag warning, not destroying encyclopedia, just adding lies on. That is frustrationg for me to see who did it, I ask this person to stop changing humans birthdates unless you have a very valid source.-- 69.229.240.187 ( talk) 22:57, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi, in the past, a contributor was asked an explanation why he added a {{ primarysources}} tags to various articles. After a summary answer, he dodged any question to respond in depth about this. Only after a thread on ANI, he participated shortly in a discussion (consolidated here), but removed subsequent queries from his talk page [3]. Given the closing comment on the discussion and the subsequent addition of the same tag to further articles [4], what do you suggest? -- User:Docu
Hi Jayron32. I'm assuming you were involved in writing parts of the topic "Gettysburg Cyclorama" a couple years ago? If so, please reply to me as I have found a trove of new data on the unknown Brooklyn Cyclorama. I can provide links that can be used to add new material to that topic. Thanks! Syosset1966 ( talk) 18:47, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm a novice at best on Wiki so, I will post the key links on the topic's talk page and let the other authors do their thing with it. I am researching a conventional book on the neighborhood in Brooklyn where this version of the cyclorama was in 1886 and came across the links. Thanks for the guidance!
Syosset1966 (
talk) 18:58, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
I just added the links there. Good luck!
Syosset1966 ( talk) 20:11, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Why are you so cool? You always have the best answers and can do everything. I hadn't talked to you for a while, but I just wanted to let you know I strive to be like you everyday. Cheers to beers, hmwith τ 20:56, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for dealing with the person vandalizing my talk page, I had no idea the wikipedia community would come to my aid so quickly. Mekeretrig ( talk) 05:25, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
This really isn't a refusal to answer a question. It's archiving a talk page to its history. There are several ways that people choose to archive their user talk pages, and this is one of them. It's not even vanishingly uncommon, and certainly not peculiar to just Docu. Yes, it has its disadvantages (which is why I chose to archive my user talk page in a different way), but it has long been regarded as a valid use of MediaWiki.
Observe that the only substantial difference between Docu making that edit, and your making this edit to your own talk page is that you made a second edit, copying and pasting the content to another page, whereas Docu does not. You both marked the edit as archiving, in the edit summary. You even had some sections in your talk page when you archived it where you hadn't responded, notice. I expect that you thought that they didn't needed responding to, or thought it better not to respond to them, or had already responded to them, or had responded to them elsewhere; just as Docu probably did. ☺ Uncle G ( talk) 19:45, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Are you aware this Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#User:Docu.27s_signature_violates_WP:SIGNATURE is now closed. is anyone else happening, like RfC? LibStar ( talk) 09:26, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
hey, great random stuff you have on your user page. keep it updated! 93.86.201.173 ( talk) 10:20, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi there, I have nominated Scream/Childhood for peer review. I would like to send it to FAC over the summer. Any assistance is appreciated. — R 2 00:07, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your advice. I have decided not to join as I'm a little bit nervous about the whole thing. I know my dad wanted me to but I will maybe join when I am more confident. Thank you. Wee Tuck ( talk) 04:31, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Given this article in a British Sunday newspaper, do you think the David Boothroyd deletion review should be reopened, or restarted, or...? Thanks GTD 12:56, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi! I'm puzzled...
It seems that you deleted the redirect I created on the grounds that it was a copyright infringement. How can it be? It's only a redirect... I created the link after hearing and reading various news reports how Gordon Brown was a laughing stock around the word for having said "Obama Beach" instead of "Omaha Beach" at the D-Day commemoration. It was a redirect to Gordon Brown. I intended to forestall any attempt at deletion by placing the relevant citation on the article, knowing that it was invisible and would not interfere with the redirect. Now it seems that the citation caused its deletion. Boohoohoo! Ohconfucius ( talk) 02:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
You've got mail. JoshuaZ ( talk) 03:23, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Re User talk:85.75.155.167: This is a bit of a problem: this address is being caught in a range block ( [6]) which I've had to keep in force for more or less the last half year, due to an extremely persistent harassment vandal. So, this might well be a legitimate user suffering collateral damage, or the vandal himself trying to take advantage of the fact I'll be without admin bits for the next few months. I'd prefer if we could discuss the rest off-wiki, if you don't mind? Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:11, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi, on the ref desk you and I both mentioned a formula where its possible to show that the chances of flipping coin outcomes can give unexpected results, I was wondering could you name the formula or something. Although I don't understand it, got into a pub argument over it with some engineers. Many thanks MedicRoo ( talk) 09:19, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Was it in regards to this? rootology ( C)( T) 13:54, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi Jayron32. I read carefully everything you tell , so i found references to proove that my second article was notable and other admin restored it. After so many time, i understand i think my mistake to our article here, and i added refference from a university, Aristotle_University www.auth.gr | www.ee.auth.gr and experiments it did with Karheim lambs in PDF. Please can you tell me if now outside of itself and Wikipedia, people have written about Karheim or not? What you think of a university and a thesis posted globally about this? Please find article here [7] and in page 2 of abstract. Thanks a lot! Psikxas ( talk) 00:59, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
The Barnstar of Good Humor | ||
It's nice to find a admin that has the same sense of humor I do, and the same kind of views of what Wikipedia should be as well. Oh FYI one of your user boxen is out of date. Whispe ring 08:10, 13 June 2009 (UTC) |
In regards to this, it's June 13 my time. I decided we've waited enough and began Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:ChildofMidnight/David Boothroyd. rootology ( C)( T) 13:47, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your interest and responses J-ron. I was a little hurt by your comment that you're not a fan of mine (or something like that, I can't recall your exact wording) but time heals all wounds. The throwing out of appropriate procedure, courtesy, and common sense by those on a concerted campaign to delete the article is disturbing. It's especially ironic that they accuse everyone else of bad faith as they trample our policies and guidelines. Oh well. Back to work. :) Have a nice weekend. Thanks again for your courtesy and reasonable approach. ChildofMidnight ( talk) 16:41, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
J, I'm good with the article now. As indicated previously, my preference would be to move it to article space and have it go through an AfD to determine notability. I don't think it's substantially similar to the previous version, so I don't think a DRV is the appropriate route. I think I understand why some might prefer that process. If there are legitimate reasons for doing it that way I'm willing to take those viewpoints into consideration. I prefer AfD because I think that's the normal process in a case like this.
If there is a BLP violation, that particular content can be removed (although I can't really see how anyone can make a good case for one being in the article as it stands). So if someone thinks there is one maybe that issue should go to BLPN now before article creation?
As far as the AfD (or DRV) goes, I'm happy to nom it myself or to work on a neutral nom statement with other concerned editors. I think putting an end to the flame wars would be a good thing and a hyper-partisan nom statement would be inappropriate. But maybe that's out of my control. And I guess I can't stop anyone from editing the article, but presumably it will be watched closely and disruptive edits or edit warring quashed. I don't think any of the citations should be removed as they help establish notability, but I understand some editors disputed the reliability of some of them, so I guess we'll see what happens there too...
I'm looking forward to getting the article out of my userspace and reaching a community consensus on the article's future, but I'm flexible on the timing so let me know if you have any thoughts or concerns in that regard. Cheers. Thanks again for your help. ChildofMidnight ( talk) 04:29, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Jayron32. It appears Psikxas ( talk · contribs) has resorted to plagiarism in his strenuous, ongoing effort to promote a non-notable company. Please see here. Now what? — Scheinwerfermann T· C16:31, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Hello again. I have finally posted my first wiki. My only issues, remaining (that I am aware of presently) are those which I have read and read and read and read about but not found any real answers.
1. Stubs: Do I need stubs? If so, how do I know what stubs I need to use, where can I find a full list of stubs to choose from? And, how do I type the stub into the wiki? ie. format of stub in wiki
2. Categories: I have added two categories but not absolutely sure I have chosen the correct categories. How do I choose categories? Some of the categories I thought it was offering as pre-existing actually did not exist at all.
3. Search keywords: This I am at a complete loss. I realize that one wiki is linked to another and so on, and how to do this [[]]. However, the wiki is named NanoScale Corporation. However, if I simply type NanoScale in the search bar, it redirects me to a wiki about nanotechnology.... Obviously redirects will not fix this issue, how do I fix it, so that the first word of the name when used as a search word, gives the option to view NanoScale Corporation or the nanotechnology wiki, and the same with NanoScale Corp?
Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by NHearn ( talk • contribs) 17:50, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
I just wanted to thank you again. Your input is greatly appreciated and very helpful! This has been a challenging and somewhat intimidating experience, although an exciting one as well. I will keep in mind the tips and information you have provided. But I wanted to thank you so much for making this a bit less scary.
NHearn (
talk) 14:37, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
You are mentioned in a Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User conduct. The Request for Comment page is here. Cirt ( talk) 22:22, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
The Reference Desk Barnstar | ||
Thanks for answering my poker hand question on the Miscellaneous Reference Desk!-- Ye Olde Luke ( talk) 00:04, 18 June 2009 (UTC) |
A RfC has been opened to discuss the issue of alignment of the lead image on the Joseph Priestley article. Because you have previously commented or been involved with this issue at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Joseph Priestley, your input is requested. Please stop by Talk:Joseph Priestley#RfC on lead image alignment and leave any feedback you may have. Thank you. Madcoverboy ( talk) 03:20, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Hello Jayron32. You are one of the admins who looked into this issue. The concern about the Karheim article was recently archived from AN with no action, and User:Scheinwerfermann reposted the question at WP:ANI#Still unresolved. Based on the evidence so far, and the evasive response by User:Psikxas, I would be inclined to issue an indef block of Psikxas. Would you have any comment on this idea? He seems to have no idea that linking from Headlamp and Karheim to a forged reference is a serious matter. Even if he were not the one to create the fake document, his nonchalance seems like a form of willing deception. Thanks, EdJohnston ( talk) 18:26, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
"Well, I have left a stern warning at Radiopathy's talk page. Lets just say that the ball is in his court now. Lets see what he does with it..." He blatantly ignores it and blanks it. What now? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ( Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 04:26, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
I was hoping they'd retract the threat, so I could unblock. However, they seem to have just disappeared, so I'll shorten this a bit. Tim Vickers ( talk) 16:28, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
I was pretty surprised at your nom of this article. Did you bother to do a google news search? The guy has a long career of interesting and notable cases. I hope you'll use more diligence in the future. It's also distressing to me that you appear to have signed on with the POV pushers in hounding and targeting editors with whom they disagree over political issues. That type of censorship and abuse is totally unaccpetable and I was truly very surprised to see you taking part in it. ChildofMidnight ( talk) 23:52, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
I've seen my name thrown out today by CoM as a "POV pusher" at least on 3 different occasions. I'll just point out that I haven't edited any articles in which he's involved in, that I am aware of, in quite some time. I think there was 1 or 2 a month ago but pretty much all has been quiet between us since. I didn't even participate in the Arbcom discussion although I certainly could have with a cache of diffs to prove the pot/kettle similarity of CoM. I'm assuming he now has an issue with me because I supported the topic ban of Grundle at the related AN/I thread. Let it be known that I've never edited an article that Grundle has created. Not even a vandalism revert that I am aware of. Continued slandering of me all over wiki-kingdom by CoM is really getting old while he continues to attack other users and then play his usual "they are picking on me" game. He's obviously further on the attack against me because of the AN/I thread I started today about his personal attacks where, while blocked today, he referred to other editors as "assholes" and "monkeys" on his talk page. Don't be fooled by this charade Jayron. Just follow the diffs trail, the proof is in the pudding so to speak. - ALLST✰R▼ echo wuz here 02:07, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
This removal was not only a revert of a banned user but also, as I made clear at User talk:ChildofMidnight, an arbitration enforcement action. Unilateral reversal is explicitly forbidden. Please revert yourself; if you wish to insert a placeholder to indicate that comments have been removed, that would obviously be a good compromise - I would do so myself but it could be construed as wheel-warring. CIreland ( talk) 13:42, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
The Reference Desk Barnstar | ||
Thank you for answering my Earth as Time Keeper question on the Science Reference Desk! -- Ye Olde Luke ( talk) 03:54, 27 June 2009 (UTC) |
I am currently in "hot water" in Wikipedia. My previous mentor Shell (a highly respected administrator, which is why I chose her) did not want to mentor me anymore and is very put out with me. The history is in our voluminous archived talk pages; the current problems are in my current talk pages, with their links to a proposed "topic ban" and now a proposed "community ban". I was already thinking of asking for a new mentor and someone today suggested (compassionately) that I do that. Would you be willing to take me on (if I am not banned from the community)? I need to spend a lot of time in the near future offline and not able to be very active over the summer and the fall (and therefore would not be "troubling" Wikipedia anyway, but when I am able to check in to Wikipedia, I believe I need further mentoring. Thanks for considering this request (if you do). -- NYScholar ( talk) 18:29, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Despite having been editing here as NYScholar since June 2005, I still (according to several other editors and Shell) have serious problems with interpersonal interactions with these other Wikipedia editors and administrators (including Shell); I am too wordy for any of their tastes, and they interpret what I write differently from what I am intending to say. Please see the suggestions of Abd on my current talk page and the contexts in the current proposed "topic ban" and "community ban" discussions and the historical contexts of what they link to. It's a long ongoing situation. I don't really see any "house style" in WP:MOS via the link to WP:CITE, because there are many different "optional" guidelines given, any of which, MOS states, via WP:CITE, is reasonable as long as it is "consistent". I am afraid that I do not currently have the time to engage in changing the MLA style citations in Harold Pinter; others will have to do that. The information I provide in "full citations" can easily be converted by those with experience in doing whatever it is these editors are wanting to do. The larger problems are in how to interact with any of them in the future (when I may have time to return to editing Wikipedia articles). The amount of time I have had to take to deal with the "topic ban" discussion initiated by two other editors over the past few days is the end of the time that I have to edit Wikipedia in the near future. I've provided 2 new articles (yesterday) and some minor edits, but that's it for now. It would be a longterm mentorship picking up later in the summer or fall, since I have to work outside Wikipedia all summer and some of fall and also will be traveling for work in fall. -- NYScholar ( talk) 19:00, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Those central to wanting to institute a community ban of me as an editor of Wikipedia say that my comments are too long when I respond to others' comments and requests for explanations. Evidence of my thoughts and thought processes is already present throughout my talk pages, if you need examples. I do not expect you or anyone else to be a mind-reader, and so I do explain what I mean extensively and, I think, clearly. But, despite having asked for responses, they just don't want to read such lengthy comments.
My prose in Wikipedia articles is clear, I believe. Any literate person should be able to understand it. But the so-called general reader of Wikipedia, according to these other editors, need simpler sentences. When that is pointed out, I do break up my more complex sentences into shorter simple ones. Nevertheless, conventional documentation is to add a source citation (endnote superscript) at the end of a clause or sentence, to avoid disruption of sentence coherence. That results in the use of more complex sentences using semicolons to separate independent clauses or in the repeating of source citations (endnote superscript numbers). Yet, this solution of using a complex sentence, apparently, is not acceptable to many Wikipedia editors, who state that the "general reader" will not understand, that it is "too complex" for such a reader. I think that many Wikipedia editors underestimate the competence of the "general reader" of English-speaking Wikipedia and do not recognize that the readership is highly diverse, heterogenous, and not homogenous. The result can be an inadvertent "dumbing down" of articles in the humanities (which I do not find in articles in the Sciences and technical subjects in Wikipedia. Literary studies is no less a discipline than the Sciences and other technical subjects, yet Wikipedia editors whom I encounter in these disputes do not seem to recognize that.
Unfamiliar with conventional academic source citations in the field of literature, many of these Wikipedia editors are adamant about using what they call "Wikipedia standard" citations (which you also mentioned). Yet, according to the current version of WP:MOS and WP:CITE, there is no such single "recommended" Wikipedia standard citation style (no such single "recommended" citation "house style"). In other words, the current WP:MOS (a series of often "optional style guidelines") does not support that position. The discrepancy between what one finds in the WP:MOS (currently in places under dispute) and what these editors claim is "Wikipedia standard" is leading to further communication problems among all of us editors.
Moreover, there appears to be some kind of entrenched cultural antipathy to American academic scholars and expert scholarship in Wikipedia, when one is writing about a subject relating to the UK and Australia, particularly. Such obvious antipathy makes it difficult, sometimes impossible, to communicate with them. There is little to no respect for what well-trained American academic teachers and scholars have to offer this project, despite the location of Wikipedia in America and the likelihood that there are more American readers and writers involved in Wikipedia than any other "variety of English"-speaking group. The under-the-radar "politics" of Wikipedia is very difficult to navigate (see Abd's comment on my talk page), and perhaps you can help me with navigating (or steering clear of) it.
The specifics of these situations are currently still located in my own archived talk pages and being referred to, often indirectly, in the current Administrators Noticeboard, where I believe oversimplified restatements of sometimes very complex situations (documented in Wikipedia archives of project pages and talk pages) are being made by former participants in previous disputes and "endorsements" of banning me are accruing, based on previous comments of an endorser, in the manner of the game Telephone (or the film [[Rumor (film)|Rumor).
Although I will not be editing articles in Wikipedia for extended periods of time, I have moved a copy of the current version of Harold Pinter into my own user sandbox as well as printed it out for future reference if it is needed. I will not be working on it further in the near future, and, obviously, if topic-banned or community-banned, not at all. I am not sure at this time whether or not a community ban will be instituted. If it is, there can be no future mentorship of me, so this request would become moot.
While these other editors tend to insist that there is something wrong with me personally and that no one else has any significant role in these communication conflicts (disputes), it appears to me that the Wikipedia "community" is highly dysfunctional when it comes to accepting the work of professional American academic scholars and editors.
I will need additional assistance with determining whether or not and how a professional American academic scholar and editor like me whose fields of expertise include British drama and theater (theatre), particularly Harold Pinter, can function productively in an environment sometimes dominated by mostly amateur editors who are familiar only or mostly with writing in and for Wikipedia and not familiar with the conventional documentation formats and standards set forth in other style guides taught in colleges and universities in the United States and many other English-speaking countries. The so-called general reader educated from high school on in the U.S. is taught these formats and standards and should be able to understand them when they are used in Wikipedia articles. But the claim to the contrary is prevailing in the attempt to "ban" me (from topic and/or from Wikipedia entirely). -- NYScholar ( talk) 01:43, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
I am sorry that is how you see what I wrote. Maybe I should get used to being misconstrued. I do certainly follow WP:MOS. My point above is that there is a serious discrepancy between what WP:MOS/ WP:CITE states—that there is no single recommended citation style in Wikipedia, but rather many possible optional citation styles, one of which is parenthetical referencing (MLA style being one of them), which I used in Harold Pinter, which meets all WP:LOP—and these editors' position that there is such a thing as Wikipedia citation "house style". Please see WP:MOS/ WP:CITE for what I am referring to. I understand that you are "not terribly interested"; that's fine; but please do not believe or state that I "don't feel like [I] need to follow [WP] policies and guidelines." The opposite is actually the case. I follow them precisely. (cont.)
The discrepancy is between what editors are claiming is "standard" citation style and what the WP:MOS/ WP:CITE actually states. I follow the "prevailing citation style" in articles that exist prior to my getting to them if that style is consistent; otherwise, I attempt to use a consistent style, often employing "citation templates" for many kinds of subjects. But for literary subjects, espec. in articles that I have created or that I have been one of the main contributors, or the main contributor, I have followed WP:CITE to the letter and used "full citations" using the very latest edition of MLA style. See e.g, Harold Pinter and politics, which meets WP:V in its use of full citations in use of MLA style parenthetical referencing and endnotes (compatible in MLA style). Or see many of the other articles I've worked on over the years via my user page messages from others, or my contributions link. I am totally in agreement with following WP:V and WP:CITE via "full citations". The style is what people are arguing about; and MLA style is currently permitted via WP:CITE's references to parenthetical referencing as an optional style possibility. (cont.)
I understand that your own position is that you don't want to mentor me, however. Thanks anyway. -- NYScholar ( talk) 02:42, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Don't be a luzr. Bullzeye and the_undertow will be there, too. Also maybe MZMcBride and east718. لenna vecia 16:25, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
For accidentally reverting you on User talk:Gogo Dodo. Cheers, → Dylan 620 (Toolbox Alpha, Beta) 02:13, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for reverting the MascotGuy impostor. There have been a few of them around lately. -- Gogo Dodo ( talk) 06:24, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
I've had a couple skeletons in my closet, not vandalism, just a couple of arguments with other users which went unnoticed (no blocks). I've started this account because after a through review of WP:SOCK I've determined one thing: yes, I can "start over". However, can a fresh start ever become an admin? I have created this account, well I guess, to evade ppl at my AfDs from looking too far in my past ... and according to WP:SOCK that violates policy. ThaMoonwalker ( talk) 06:21, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi - I just wanted to say thanks for nominating my mating moths picture as a featured picture candidate! It's my first one, and it never would have crossed my mind to nominate it, especially because I just took it while running for a bus. I missed the bus, but learnt something about moths, so it worked out alright! Thanks again -- Kateshort forbob 10:42, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
You used a naughty word in your edit summary, so quake in your boots lest you be blocked. As an admin you can't do that, but I'm not an admin so I can swear all I want. So there. The sad thing is that I'm not all that certain whether I'm joking or not. Bleah. This place sucks more every day. Short Brigade Harvester Boris ( talk) 05:54, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi! Thanks for your quick response. You have really saved me a lot of time. Yes, as you told, it would be “Dollo’s law”. There should have been a typo error in the syllabus. Yeswanthrm ( talk) 06:02, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
I could use some help. You seem to be the one with the issue over the National Memorial Ride. How do I format it so that it is not advertising?? Ive tried to answer the basic questions of who, what where and how. I posted references that are third party. When I look at the Canadian Army Veterans (The CAV) wiki article, all its references are to its own web site and those links dont work. It is a FOR PROFIT organization owned by one man, yet its blatant advertisement is allowed to exist. The Ride existed, it took place, and with 328 riders showing up from across Ontario and Quebec, it is notable. That it was the first time Motorcyclist were allowed to ride into a Canadian Cemetery is notable. Yet you seem to have an issue with this, can you please point out how we are advertising, and the The CAV is not??-- GankT19 ( talk) 10:58, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
cheers -- GankT19 ( talk) 13:48, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Love Ride,Chick-fil-A Kyle Petty Charity Ride Across America, Ride for Heart,Freewheelers EVS John Derringer (commentator), 2008 Centurion Boats at the Glen, Riding Into History,Warlock Motorcycles, and Institute of Advanced Motorists. How are we any different??-- GankT19 ( talk) 14:40, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
-- GankT19 ( talk) 18:23, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Jayron. I must explain myself. Actually the block was set to expire yesterday and it did and I was able to edit. But suddenly today the block came back for no reason. I didnot understand what was happening hence I put the templates. --Legolas (talk2me) 04:03, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Just letting you know that despite your flattering assessment of my 'level of knowledge' about the encyclopedia' (in fact derived from 5-10 minutes reading the relevant articles on editing) this is my first and only Wikipedia account. Simeon Stylites ( talk) 12:33, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Please note Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User page indexing has been repurposed from the standard RFC format it was using into a strraw poll format. Please re-visit the RFC to ensure that your previous endorsement(s) are represented in the various proposals and endorse accordingly.
Dear Jayron32,
As you know Pianocrasher page was meant to be moved to Eugenie Absalom page. I sent a request to administration asking for it.
Information in two articles: Acoustic Graffiti and Oleg Lapidus was moved to Wikipedia main page not exactly the way I was planning to do it (as I thought that was being moved to Eugenie Absalom page).
I already added two paragraphs of text to Acoustic Graffiti article and reference list.
It means that two paragraphs can be taken off Oleg Lapidus article - I intended to leave just intro and biography of Oleg Lapidus in it.
Alternatively just one article can be left with the full amount of information in it.
I consider Oleg Lapidus a notable person because he has four music educations as stated in his biography and he combines his professional music skills and creative vision in developing a new art trend - Acoustic Graffiti, which has similar artistic vision as Street piano - one of the Wikipedia entries.
I gave eleven references to support the entry so far I can expand on the reference list. The image supplied with the article is my own and I am planning to upload more images (Acoustic Graffiti).
I wonder if you could possibly give me some time to do so, please?
Yours sincerely,
Eugenie Absalom -- Eugenie Absalom ( talk) 15:12, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
I want an admin who is not busy. -- TheCommunityWave ( talk) 19:36, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Just wanted to ask.. how come you tagged [8] as AfD? Surely it is CSD material if it is a copyvio? — Deon555 talkI'm BACK! 01:52, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
I was indeed affected by this block, as I have an account on this machine and am a contributor to this project. Thank you for reviewing and unblocking this for me, though.
Kitambi ( talk) 04:46, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
I believe Soccermeko to be back. You had a lot of experience with him the last time around, so your review and comments are welcome at WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Soccermeko.— Kww( talk) 02:15, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Maybe a box (similar to an award) thanking those for article writing during the dramaout period. Just a thought. Too early to give it out now because the period hasn't even started. I will plan article writing a few days ahead of time to practice/get used to withdrawal symptoms. In other words, a few days before the dramaout, I may stop editing completely as I suffer withdrawal and also plan what articles to write. Come Sunday or Monday Juy 19th/20th, I'll start with a bang. User F203 ( talk) 16:47, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Oops, I made a comment in ANI. See, even if it doesn't increase drama, it takes away time from editing. This is another reason for me to participate in the article campaign next week. User F203 ( talk) 18:10, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your help and also is the CVU only for admins -- Meteorman7228 ( talk) 22:35, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
with this editor. Possibly trying to frame User:Werdna, another admin.-- The Legendary Sky Attacker 23:47, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Hello Jayron, I came across this user's
contribs and warned him on his talk page but I think more eyes will be necessary. He's been getting away with it for some time. Thank you for looking,
⋙–Berean–Hunter—► (
(⊕)) 01:53, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
I really do not mind you keeping it open. I don't get the email thing. I really think that we should let PD play this out. Law type! snype? 12:10, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Your
Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for
featured picture status,
File:Joined moths.JPG, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at
Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates.
Shoemaker's Holiday (
talk) 20:05, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
|
Thanks! Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 20:05, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Dear Jayron,
Thanks very much for your notes. I will follow the instructions to revise the article I tried to creat. Could you please unlock my PC-id. Now I can't open it. when can I start to creat the page again? Thanks very much for your help Rose718 ( talk) 07:59, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Hello Jayron32, one of the accused sockpuppets of mine Sbharris has responded to Carrt81, here [ [9]], proving I am not a sockpuppet of that name or JohnTex as Carrt81 has announced on the board. For what it is worth.-- Victor9876 ( talk) 19:49, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Oddoflyoko ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is a sockpuppet of MataNui44 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) whom you recently blocked. Thatcher 21:21, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Hey Jayron,
I took off a couple weeks from wikipedia. There is just SOOOO much out there, and so little me. I've stuck to copy-editing articles, and reverting vandalism as a way of helping the community. I've installed Lupin's tools, and I have Twinkle set-up. Can you give me rollback rights to make vandal-fighting easier?
Hope you had a Happy 4th!
StNicksRocks ( talk) 03:31, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Good work taking the dramaout idea. It is a good idea. AN/I is an addictive place for many users and this would be a good time to show everyone that if we didn't keep relying on AN/I all the time to solve every dispute, we'd actually get a lot more work done.-- The Legendary Sky Attacker 01:15, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Per your suggestion, I started an AfD here. -- Blanchardb - Me• MyEars• MyMouth- timed 02:40, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
You may also be interested in my summaries, as an admin who has been involved in SOPHIAN controversies: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:William_M._Connolley&diff=302387535&oldid=302377030 -- Andrew Lancaster ( talk) 09:55, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the message, I have already informed wikipedia of the users actions as I feel he vandalised the page I was editing. My actions were in good faith, not intended to cause any harm and the only reason I violated guide lines was by mistake. The user then insulted me, was rude, abusive and for this reason I took it further and above you. Thanks for your time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danwilson82 ( talk • contribs)
Hello, I was just trying to update the photograph for Stewart Downing but the page will not let me. I read the guide lines and they said I should contact the admin who locked the page and I believe that was you.
This football player moved to my club yesterday and on his page it still shows him in the old teams shirt. I have permission from the Aston Villa F.C website to upload a new picture taken by them yesterday. By the way, I thought I should also inform you that the picture currently on the page is a copyright breach. It featured in an english football magazine and that isn't allowed as far as i'm aware, just thought you may like to speak to the alledged copyright owner.
Regards
Villainnumber1 ( talk) 11:28, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to
attack other editors, as you did on
Medieval. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Thank you.
I was looking at the history of the article over a greater time frame. There are alot of edits related to redirecting etc. Also I don't appreciate being called a "newb".
Patchy1
Talk To Me! 13:51, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
awesome! :) – Juliancolton | Talk 18:24, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Please note that I have found and am in the process of referencing out of universe context per [11], which is only the surface of what I have found on Google Books. Please reconsider. Thanks! Sincerely, -- A Nobody My talk 22:57, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
You got some pretty big support for the greatest Wiki-Holiday ever. Nice work. Law type! snype? 13:09, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Would vandalism patrolling be exempt during this five-day period?-- The Legendary Sky Attacker 04:33, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Just so you know (since you put up the onhold thing), I've declined to unblock Cognition for right now to clear out the backlog some, but have offered him some terms under which he can be unblocked, which include mentorship, civility and BLP probations, and a restriction to a single account. Once he accepts these and finds a mentor, he can probably be unblocked. Please feel free to comment; the terms I offered were mostly based on the AN discussion and may need some modification. Hersfold non-admin( t/ a/ c) 14:54, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the thank you, but I didn't really do anything but stay out of arguments. :) Who then was a gentleman? ( talk) 02:18, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Same for me. Kayau Jane Eyre PRIDE AND PREJUDICE les miserables 02:34, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for organizing the No Drama Days 2009 festival. I got a lot of article work done from my to do list. The spirit of the event was very positive and I think the discussions it sparked were interesting. ChildofMidnight ( talk) 17:08, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Based on a cursory look, the article writing campaign was a qualified success. It was not the solution to end all problems but it looks good. There's a few more measures that I want to gauge before making a final judgement, one of them requiring a post-campaign timepoint in 1 week to see the effects (not fully described because I don't want the test subject (wikipedians) to taint or influence the results.
Is there an interest to do this again in early to mid December 2009 and again 6 months later? I hope so.
There are the perpetual problems that I don't quite know the answer. They include massive incivility (usually quickly blocked), moderate incivility, changing to subject from a discussion to "you're a sock", using stock excuses like "undue weight" when the real reason is one doesn't like something, Israeli articles, Macedonia articles, Obama partisanship, global warming, etc. Do the authors of collaborative textbooks have this problem? I don't think so. I have some ideas but do you? In the mean time, repeating the article writing campaign looks to be a good thing to do twice a year. In real life, once a year is standard but on the internet, attention span is short. User F203 ( talk) 22:05, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
During the dramaout, I saw an article where an administrator did not like a new article so he put an AFD on it (it survived) and immediately blocked the editor with the excuse...you're a sock. Probably too old but I didn't think that was particularly civil or nice. The other sockpuppet master did not edit that article so even if the users were the same, they were not faking a consensus. More likely, the users were different. Do we ignore this or not? I'm leaning towards ignoring it because I don't like drama, just editing. User F203 ( talk) 22:27, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
I propose a semi-protection of this article. I counted about 28 reverted edits in the last 24 hours.-- The Legendary Sky Attacker 22:13, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Never mind. Already done.-- The Legendary Sky Attacker 22:14, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi Jayron,
As you'd know I stuck a warning template on that Anon's page about the incitement to take legal action he made regarding User:Mike R. I was going to report it, but I wasn't sure where one reports legal threats and like issues. Is it WP:ANI or somewhere else? There are so many noticeboards. Cheers, Crafty ( talk) 05:50, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabella_(novel)
Should this article be deleted? What is your opinion? I don't know the guidelines well enough. I do like Finland. That's the F in my user name. The author of the book is Finnish. However, she is not that famous. Very famous authors' books are deemed notable. User F203 ( talk) 17:32, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
The Anti-Drama Barnstar | ||
Thank you for participating in The Great Wikipedia Dramaout 2009, avoiding drama for a full 5 days!-- The Legendary Sky Attacker 04:12, 26 July 2009 (UTC) |
Hi. In light of recent events and community concerns about the way in which content is transferred I have proposed a new wikiproject which would attempt to address any of the concerns and done in an environment where a major group of editors work together to transfer articles from other wikipedias in the most effective way possible without BLP or referencing problems. Please offer your thoughts at the proposal and whether or not you support or oppose the idea of a wikiproject dedicated to organizing a more efficient process of getting articles in different languages translated into English. Dr. Blofeld White cat 12:53, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
I've taken a look at ANI to see if dramaout had an effect.
Last Monday, at 1500 UTC, the dramaout was in full swing. ANI was a mere 282 kb in length. This Monday, at 1500 UTC (a few minutes ago), ANI was 317 kb in length.
Subjectively, ANI looks longer now. During the article writing campaign, ANI did look smaller. ANI did shrink even smaller than 282 kb but I chose a point at random to avoid cherry picking the data.
Although the sample size is small, I think the project was good. User F203 ( talk) 15:20, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
BorgQueen ( talk) 18:08, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
I thought, as a glowing participant, that a shiny new barnstar was coming my way... - 00:15, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
I appreciate your efforts, and know from personal experience it must've taken some time reading through all that lot, but I think the close and move are both premature, as useful discussion is still ongoing and two ideas put forward very recently (date disambiguation and "(Bible foo)" are in the early stages of discussion and look reasonably promising. It would be nice if the consensus that emerged included no opposes and certainly no strong ones, as per the heroine one, which I consider inherent POV and therefore the worst of all of the options discussed!
Cheers -- Dweller ( talk) 12:41, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. -- Dweller ( talk) 10:49, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Mixing it up. Like it. Yay green. hmwith τ 13:48, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Orlady ( talk) 13:28, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
I want to ask your opinion if a potential article is notable. First, some background. I have no hidden political agenda.
In late 2008, with great fanfare, then Senator Obama suspended his campaign and went to Hawaii. His Hawaiian trips have been well covered by reliable sources. His trips have been much more notable than most politicians' trips.
Would a well sourced Barack Obama trips to Hawaii be a potential article to write? One source: http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed2/idUSTRE49K07G20081021 Other sources cover his shave ice trip with his girls.
If Wikipedia is only about articles such as Australia, Charles de Gaulle, World War II, then the Barack Obama Trips to Hawaii would not qualify. However, WP has many minor articles and subarticles User F203 ( talk) 20:50, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up, although my input (considering I only gave a 31 hour standard editwar block back in February) may not be as useful as that from say VSmith. I have given input however. GARDEN 20:53, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Please semi-protect Rage Against The Machine (album). The release date for this article has been changed so many times, it has caused guests nothing but confusion. I propose that the release date is kept at November 1992 (no date of November, just the month) and then semi-protected so that only registered users can edit it. -- Sky Attacker ( talk) 10:27, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
About deleting my page...
Please kindly tell me if you have read my last post in Karheim talk page, as i posted it just 10seconds before it has been deleted :( and tell me if your decision based on this or not..
it was about osram sylvania full kit, from its official site, which another user claimed it is illegal..is osram illegal? if i add these infos in osram wikipedia, will this removed?
Thanks in advance..we all thank you about the work you do for us in wikipedia
Psikxas —Preceding unsigned comment added by Psikxas ( talk • contribs) 01:34, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Jayron32 you are very kind to me, a new user, and really appreciate your help. ive read to companies site that managed to produce bulb size for xenon kits other than these of d2s, thats why i though it worths been listed here. Ive also tried to post company slogan, as maybe Mcdonalds slogan appear here, so as, if anyone want to know about the slogan, cant he search in wikipedia for it? Finally, as it was one of my first posts, though other users could complete it if it is mentioned as "advertisment" at first in order to become suitable for posting here.
Is there such and ability, to un-delete my post temporary (and leave as less infos as you think), and leave the community correct or even report the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Psikxas ( talk • contribs) 01:44, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Okay, i must admit in public that Jayron32 is an admin here in order to HELP US! And he is doing it EXCELLENT.
Thanks Jayron!
Psikxas ( talk) 01:56, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
I appreciate the blocks you have handed out in response to vandals personally attacking me. Top-notch work buddy, thanks very much! talk ProSpider 04:18, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I apologize. I asked in the Wikipedia IRC channel if normal users can post warnings regarding other users and they told me to go ahead. The user I "warned" has tried to make articles about himself in the past and I just thought I'd let him know that Wikipedia is not really meant for that, but rather for editing and contributing to Wikipedia. I didn't mean to cause anything disruptive. -- Judgespearmkii ( talk) 05:06, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Greetings, Jayron32. Thank you for speedy deleting Karheim. Please take note that it looks very much as though we are dealing with a puppetmaster and a couple of socks; see SPI. Furthermore, it seems to me this user (under however many names s/he has assumed) may be using this subpage for promotional purposes by means of direct links to it on non-Wikipedia pages. Was userification necessarily warranted here? — Scheinwerfermann T· C06:37, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Really, Scheinwerfermann, have you anything personal with me? 1.You deleted every evidence i provided in your talk page from Osram that pointed you didnt tell the whole truth that HID lamps are illegal from your talk page. Xm... 2.Why other admins here are helpful and kind?? 4.Am i the ONLY user one here who has a personal subpage? 5.To Jayron32: However, if admin Jayron32 thinks im violating any policy by having personal page till i finish it and thinks he made a HUGE mistake as an admin as Scheinwerfermann says, feel free to do anything needed . Admin Jayron32 gained already my repsect!
Psikxas ( talk) 09:37, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Jayron32, i dont know now what to do. Remove the page? Correct it? Please remove any infos you may think from the page, remove the whole page or leave it as it is till SPI finishes. I dont want to cause any trouble to you from a single article here because you restored it... so take any actions you may think! Psikxas ( talk) 01:31, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello Jayron32,
Ive read everything you provided to me and think im back better,i know better wikipedia's policy, really thank you. Now im working on my userpage. Please have a look at it and kindly tell me your opinion, if i am on a good way, if its notable/neutral etc.Really trying hard for it, believe me. I dont want to bother you all the time, so ill do nothing till you have time and i hear from you.
For one more time, i apologize for any troubles i caused to you and all the responses you had to give because of me... Psikxas ( talk) 01:42, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
" Internet homicide" has commenced at Talk:Internet_homicide#Name. ↜Just me, here, now … 20:48, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello, this is concerning my aritcle "10/26/1986" which you deleted a few days ago. I understand that the article is not exactly wikipedia material however it was written as an assignment for college and I need to show what I wrote to my professor. Can I at least have a copy of it please so I can submit it to my professor, I will not attempt to re submit it on wikipedia. Unfortunately I have been givin until today at 5:00pm to submit so a speedy response is extremely appreciated. thank you. Tyler Healy. Uncannyfish. Uncannyfish ( talk) 15:44, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Dear Jayron32,
In various parts of the internet, people are often encouraged to "lurk more" before doing anything, to avoid the annoyance of having to deal with Newbies. I have lurked enough to be familiar with everything, so that I do not inconvenience others. If you have any other questions, please ask. Sincerely, Myownusername ( talk) 01:52, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
I am a fast learner. If you have any other concerns I would be happy to address them Myownusername ( talk) 01:57, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
I would report it to Sockpuppetry peopl but I figure might as well get an opinion first User:Qweqwewert user:59.105.23.90 user:Liu Tao all make the same edits, and therefor looksl ike a sockpuppet case, buit, 1: i don't remember where to report it. It very obviously is the same person, look at History of Kuomintang and Liu Tao's talkpage.-- Jakezing (Your King ( talk) 12:53, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi Jayron,
I have reverted 3 times on
M24 Sniper Weapon System and won't touch it again for a while but there is a Russian bloggist insistent on using his site as a reference. I'm trying to get him to the talk page instead of pushing it in again. I don't want to go too far so this is out of my hands for now. Cheers,
⋙–Berean–Hunter—► (
(⊕)) 04:34, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello, I hope you are doing well. I am sending you this message since you are a member of the GA WikiProject. I would like to invite you to consider helping with the GA sweeps process. Sweeps helps to ensure that the oldest GAs still meet the criteria, and improve the quality of GAs overall. Unfortunately, last month only two articles were reviewed. This is definitely a low point after our peak at the beginning of the process when 163 articles were reviewed in September 2007. After nearly two years, the running total has just passed the 50% mark. In order to expediate the reviewing, several changes have been made to the process. A new worklist has been created, detailing which articles are left to review. All exempt and previously reviewed articles have already been removed from the list. Instead of reviewing by topic, you can consider picking and choosing whichever articles interest you.
We are always looking for new members to assist with the remaining articles, so if you are interested or know of anybody that can assist, please visit the GA sweeps page. In addition, for every member that reviews 100 articles or has a significant impact on the process, s/he will get an award when they reach that threshold. If only 14 editors achieve this feat starting now, we would be done with Sweeps! Of course, having more people reviewing less articles would be better for all involved, so please consider asking others to help out. Feel free to stop by and only review a few articles, something's better than nothing! Take a look at the list, and see what articles interest you. Let's work to complete Sweeps so that efforts can be fully focused on the backlog at GAN. If you have any questions about the process, reviewing, or need help with a particular article, please contact me or OhanaUnited and we'll be happy to help. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 ( talk • contrib) 08:19, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
From time to time, I'm away for a couple of days at a time, after which I try to catch up with my favorite RefDesks on my return. All through that article, I'm thinking to myself ... where's the dead cat ... somebody has to swing a dead cat ... man, where are these people from, anyway (that they don't swing a dead cat).
So, thanks for adding the reference to one of my favorite phrases! (I get some really funny looks when I try to use than in Europe, though.) -- DaHorsesMouth ( talk) 22:21, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
NOMINATE ME FOR ADMIN, COME ON MAN DO IT. This is partially because i wanna try to do it, and i want ot see if it snowballs against me partially, at which point I'll call a lot of people biased and unforgiving.-- Jakezing (Your King ( talk) 05:59, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
clarie the movie
_______________________________________
aparently you don't watch the hallmark channel, cause clarie was on the hallmark channel,the reason it was so short is because i forgot what the
movie was all about, but i remembered bits and pieces of the movie, i am going to write it again and try to remember the rest of the movie, thanks for the help.
Kaybugg1 (
talk) 18:57, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I am having a dispute with an IP editor in the AKM article whi is edit warring, his talk page reveals that he was previously blocked for doing the same, by yourself. I've warned him and the editor continues to disrupt the page, refusing to discuss. Oh, it is User talk:69.141.140.192 Koalorka ( talk) 15:40, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
The article doesn't say.
I'm interested, because I need to explain the benefits in the guideline on outlines I'm writing. (Outlines are a type of tree structure).
I've also asked the question at various reference desks, and these threads may help to jump start your brain on this question. :)
What benefits have you noticed?
How are Wikipedia's outlines useful to you?
I look forward to your answers on my talk page.
The Transhumanist 04:43, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi Jayron You refuse my request for unblock on the above-someone else reverted it. Please, if you have time, read the rant on that talk page at the bottom as it explains what is going on-I really need help No hard feelings Yonteng ( talk) 20:14, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
This project needs another shot in the arm.
So here it goes...
I've contacted all 59 members of the Countries WikiProject to help in designing and conducting contests for the further development of the country outlines.
You are invited too.
The guidelines and outline article still aren't complete.
Which means you will be needed to help explain to the newcomers mentioned above what outlines are and how to develop them.
Please participate in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries#Hosting country coverage contests.
The Transhumanist 22:28, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Greetings, Jayron32. In reference to Psikxas ( talk · contribs) (sockpuppet smackdown [ [1]], MfD here), please take note that his company's logo ( File:Karheim.jpg) was deleted today (copyvio: corporate logo, not text only), and Psikxas immediately re-uploaded the very same image with a new title and replaced it on his user-page-cum-billboard. I am running out of ability to assume this user is acting in good faith, what do you think? Sock puppets, numerous violations of behavioural protocol, putting his commercial pseudo-article on his front userpage, and now these copyvio logo shenanigans just don't add up to anything but a persistent attempt to use Wikipedia for promotional purposes. — Scheinwerfermann T· C05:11, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey Jayron32!
I am new to wikipedia. I've made random edits anonymously, and I have successfully added links and references to a couple articles. I want to learn more about making wikipedia a better place.
I was hoping you could be my mentor, and help me out as I stumble through figuring wikipedia out.
Do you have any suggestions on where I should start honing my skills?
Thank you
StNicksRocks ( talk) 06:34, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Jayron32! I'm starting off with Copy-Editing. This is the article I'm currently working on:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Italy How am I doing so far?
I also want to learn more about patrolling for Vandalism.
Hope you're well,
StNicksRocks ( talk) 05:17, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I saw that you are currently adopting. I hope that is still correct. I am completely lost and feel inundated with info! I am trying to write my first article. I have been and am in the process of reading the instructions. Good GOD there are a lot of instructions! I want to do this, and really want it to be done well! But no matter how hard I try to play around in the sandbox, try understanding the set up of various, well written wiki's to get a clue on how to simply write one, aside from all the rules, tips, links and suggestions, I am overwhelmed and lost. Can you help?
My name is Nicole and user name is NHearn. This is my first wiki experience and I have been just trying to figure out where to even start for 3 weeks. I am not usually a slow learner, so I think maybe I need help... Let me know. Thank you! NHearn ( talk) 19:26, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey there! It's your adoptee :) with questions once again.
Few questions and one fav to ask if you have time to help. I have worked hard to remove peacock language from my wiki in my sandbox: User:NHearn/Sandbox, and try to avoid making it sound like an advertisement.I really am just trying to give kind of a company bio breakdown.I understand the issues and why it is so important to write with an impartial unbiased tone. Plus, I don't want to run into WP delete issues somewhere along the road, especially since I've been working on this for a while now. Can you take a look at my wiki and give me any content and formatting suggestions. I still have a few things to do before I will be ready to post the final content to its own page:
1. Categorize it: I've read...and read....and read........ a. How do I link it to a category? b. How do I choose a category? c. Do I choose all applicable categories (more than one), or just one? 2. I have been given auth. by owner of all copyrighted content to use and let wiki use, with full GFDL, but... a. Who do I direct that authorization to? b. Does it need to be emailed? c. What does the release need to contain, and exactly who is supposed to send it. (Yes, I've read, I'm just a bit lost.....sorry.) d. And do I need to add one of the Copyright images to the page, if so, where? 3. a. How exactly do I add an image to the wiki? I have read all over W.Commons, and signed up, only to find out I can't use it for W.Pedia.... b. If I can, how? 4. When you have time, could you take a look and help me with this?
So..... I feel like a major pain ... but cannot thank you enough for your help. I promise, I have looked for these answers. But there are so many answers and options, that I just become confused even more at times. Thank you again. Have a lovely weekend! NHearn ( talk) 21:48, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, File:Mike Holovak.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. ViperSnake151 Talk 20:39, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading File:Holovak2.jpg. You don't seem to have said where the image came from, who created it, or what the copyright status is. We require this information to verify that the image is legally usable on Wikipedia, and because most image licenses require giving credit to the image's creator.
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1. How do I reply to your comments/response other than starting an entirely new topic? 2. THANK YOU for your help! It IS greatly appreciated! 3. I thought I was working in the "sandbox" these last few weeks and have been actually writing ACTUAL wikis OOPS! I'm not sure where this sandbox is, but am beginning to feel dummer by the second. 4. The article is on the history of a company in Kansas. I am usually good at writing unbiased, even when familiar w/topic, and can be objective. I have no idea how to edit without screwing it up completely. Which I would not want to be done to my hard work. Since I can't find the instructions or key to all the html or whatever it is that is used to format (aside from the tool bar at the top), I'm not sure what to do. Do I need to learn to write HTML code first?
Thanks and sorry for the extent of issues. Your help is greatly appreciated! NHearn ( talk) 13:53, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello again, I need some help at the List of Days of our Lives cast members page. An IP, starting with 74.216... keeps editing mercessily there, adding unsourced information, and ignoring the hidden warnings. You protected the page from IP editing a few weeks ago, and it doesn't look like there is enough to do it again, but I do need some help in dealing with this individual. The IP changes every time (of course), and he/she removes the hidden tags. Any help you could give would be most appreciated. Rm994 ( talk) 15:57, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
IP's are relentlessly disrupting List of Days of our Lives cast members page. I need your help again. Thank you so much! Rm994 ( talk) 19:09, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi Jayron32. I noticed you're name at WP:PRV. I was wondering whether you could peer review the 1995 Brazilian Grand Prix article for me, leaving you're comments here. If you could make any comments at the PR, that'd be great. Kind regards, D.M.N. ( talk) 17:04, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Maybe...
I was experiencing mental block on the article draft for "outline" and on the outline guideline draft. And this was holding the whole project back. Without these (which are intended to explain the type of lists known as outlines in detail), the danger is higher that a controversy could go the wrong way.
I requested help on them, but there was none forthcoming.
So I went ahead and started us on the next phase of operations without those 2 pages...
Our AWB'ers and I have placed about 1600 notices all over Wikipedia. And the plan is to place several thousand more.
This generated only one complaint, but it was a very vocal one, and attracted a few other detractors who seemed unfamiliar with the concept of hierarchical outlines and their benefits. However, just as many or more editors came to the defense of the OOK, and there was no consensus formed. But, dab is still trying to rally opposition to outlines at the Village Pump. See below...
It appears that the banner placed on the talk page of the Outline of Switzerland caught the attention of an editor named Dbachmann who posted a rather forceful message on my talk page, another on WT:WPOOK, another at WP:VPP, and still another at WP:AN!
He went well out of his way to use negative hype to cause a stir.
It appears that Mr. Bachmann doesn't understand the nature of hierarchical outlines and their applications. And though he implied that he has never seen an OOK outline before, he was involved with a discussion on these when they were called "lists of basic topics".
His primary argument is that outlines are content forks of articles, and violate WP:CFORK.
But "topic lists", of which outlines are a type, have been around for almost as long as Wikipedia, and fall under the WP:LISTS and WP:STAND guidelines. They aren't intended as forks, as they are lists, bringing the benefits of lists to the corresponding subjects, such as grouping and navigation.
Someone suggested an MfD, but lists are articles, and are within the jurisdiction of AfD. Only the portal page, which merely lists the outline articles, falls within the scope of the MfD department.
The administrator's noticeboard was considered the wrong venue for the discussion, and the discussion was closed.
But Dab's discussion at the Village Pump is still active. Hopefully level heads will prevail there too.
Am I disheartened or deterred? Hell no. I say "full steam ahead!"
But we really need to finish the article draft and the guideline. Otherwise there will continue to be confusion.
Over the next week or two, we'll be posting another 1600 or so notices. It's a good thing we didn't send out 10,000 of them all at once. :)
The Transhumanist 23:41, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
P.S.: Another related thread has popped up at WP:VPR#OoK's expediency. --TT 04:34, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Uhh...thanks, I guess. I've never even heard of the Barnstar of Integrity before, let alone gotten one. No, I just have gotten better at seeing what are important and encyclopedic on here. The CBS Mandate isn't one of those items. Hey, we all have to start somewhere. Jgera5 ( talk) 03:23, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi Jayron32.
please kindly tell me if its possible to restore article with latest changes from userspace to mainspace of wikipedia. THANKS for any help provided to me from EARLY beggining, and promise to you ill do my best to make wikipedia better! Psikxas ( talk) 20:16, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. Some personal attacks go too far. APK lives in a very, very Mad World 01:38, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi Jayron32. You always guide me what to do next..so after this experience here from karheim and after another bad one similar to this,
after reviewing shoei, Schuberth, Suomy ... tell me :
1. what makes the above article notable? Why references to official websites ONLY make these articles here "reliable", and whatever i create dont?
Are all these articles based to official articles "reliable" and mine isnt?
2. arent these pages based ONLY on companies' official website for refference ? why, even if they are not as you ask "independent of the company itself", can be on mainspace, but mine cant?
I can put hundrend of articles here, which are based to companies site ONLY...i searched for such articles on wikipedia, and based on these, i tried to create mine. I thought that articles in mainspace follow some rules in order to stay there, but its not enough i suppose...
Cause i made the mistake and argued with an admin,which i even do not know and have nothing personal..i even said thinks for him i dont mean always and im sorry...after all this, i feel "undesirable" here :(((....for real.. Psikxas ( talk) 16:23, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
As you probably can see, ive started another article about lazer helmets...And has been deleted too...Even if i could provide sources from newspapers, from UK government etc based on the experience i gained from you and from karheim...
As you can see, nobody has written about shoei, Schuberth, Suomy,showing that outside of itself and Wikipedia, people have written about it extensively, showing that both above articles and companies are NOT notable, but these articles are here!!! Isnt?
I could add refferences that my lazer_helmet article is about a notable company, many more reference than other helmet manufacturers i mentioned, but article deleted! Isnt it unfair or not?
Or dont you think sharp.gov.uk , goverment UK organization is notable?
Or even Motorcycle_News? As and admin, you can better than me find out how many articles point to this newspaper as a refference! just see this lazer helmets - MCN about lazer helmets
Adding this to what happened to my first article, what i can now understand is that you are 100% right about karheim, i think it is unfair that my other article about lazer deleted , and last that many many many many articles in wikipedia are not notable, are not based on external sources, but they are here cause likely or unlikely another admin didnt acted. I accept that..i have not luck ..xexe...
But you do perfect your job, so, hope future articles will fall under your attention and will not appear such injustice cause other admins didnt do they job. Exactly, to be honest, i was reviewng articles i mentioned to you,thought that if they were here, similar articles should also. Didnt thought that these other articles shouldn be there, but nobody mentioned them. My mistake was that based on these i argued with other admin..anyway... Thanks for any advice Jayron32 :) Psikxas ( talk) 18:46, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
[2] Just leave him be. There's no problem with him blanking, or insulting us while no one is listening, for that matter.-- chaser ( talk) 22:16, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello! Your submission of Bill Szymczyk at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Smallman12q ( talk) 00:00, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
As a contributor to Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content/RFC_on_use_of_sports_team_logos, you have been included in a request for formal mediation regarding the subject at Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Use of Sports Logos. With your input and agreement to work through mediation, it is hoped we can achieve a lasting solution. -- Hammersoft ( talk) 13:39, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
May 27 you were able to comment on Is a Freedom of Information request OR? What was not specifically asked was this
DEC Ministerial correspondence is outgoing and thus to the Friends of Marble Hill President Incorporated under the Friends of Parks Inc thus answerable to we the people via OCBA Office of Consumer and Business Affairs, not an "Email", not "interdepartmental" correspondence. Could specific comment be made on this reference as a reliable source? Mifren ( talk) 01:51, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Dravecky ( talk) 02:21, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Somebody change Grace Mugabe's birthyear from 1964 to 1965, and didn't cite. another guy changed Paul Kagame's birthdate from October 23 to 27 unsource statement. I doubt it is the same guy (happene on 11/08/2008). The guy who mess Grace Mugabe up happen on 2/19/2009 when source said 1965 this guy changed to 1964. 206.255.186.75 have 7 warnings on his talkpage but only white flag warning, not destroying encyclopedia, just adding lies on. That is frustrationg for me to see who did it, I ask this person to stop changing humans birthdates unless you have a very valid source.-- 69.229.240.187 ( talk) 22:57, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi, in the past, a contributor was asked an explanation why he added a {{ primarysources}} tags to various articles. After a summary answer, he dodged any question to respond in depth about this. Only after a thread on ANI, he participated shortly in a discussion (consolidated here), but removed subsequent queries from his talk page [3]. Given the closing comment on the discussion and the subsequent addition of the same tag to further articles [4], what do you suggest? -- User:Docu
Hi Jayron32. I'm assuming you were involved in writing parts of the topic "Gettysburg Cyclorama" a couple years ago? If so, please reply to me as I have found a trove of new data on the unknown Brooklyn Cyclorama. I can provide links that can be used to add new material to that topic. Thanks! Syosset1966 ( talk) 18:47, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm a novice at best on Wiki so, I will post the key links on the topic's talk page and let the other authors do their thing with it. I am researching a conventional book on the neighborhood in Brooklyn where this version of the cyclorama was in 1886 and came across the links. Thanks for the guidance!
Syosset1966 (
talk) 18:58, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
I just added the links there. Good luck!
Syosset1966 ( talk) 20:11, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Why are you so cool? You always have the best answers and can do everything. I hadn't talked to you for a while, but I just wanted to let you know I strive to be like you everyday. Cheers to beers, hmwith τ 20:56, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for dealing with the person vandalizing my talk page, I had no idea the wikipedia community would come to my aid so quickly. Mekeretrig ( talk) 05:25, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
This really isn't a refusal to answer a question. It's archiving a talk page to its history. There are several ways that people choose to archive their user talk pages, and this is one of them. It's not even vanishingly uncommon, and certainly not peculiar to just Docu. Yes, it has its disadvantages (which is why I chose to archive my user talk page in a different way), but it has long been regarded as a valid use of MediaWiki.
Observe that the only substantial difference between Docu making that edit, and your making this edit to your own talk page is that you made a second edit, copying and pasting the content to another page, whereas Docu does not. You both marked the edit as archiving, in the edit summary. You even had some sections in your talk page when you archived it where you hadn't responded, notice. I expect that you thought that they didn't needed responding to, or thought it better not to respond to them, or had already responded to them, or had responded to them elsewhere; just as Docu probably did. ☺ Uncle G ( talk) 19:45, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Are you aware this Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#User:Docu.27s_signature_violates_WP:SIGNATURE is now closed. is anyone else happening, like RfC? LibStar ( talk) 09:26, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
hey, great random stuff you have on your user page. keep it updated! 93.86.201.173 ( talk) 10:20, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi there, I have nominated Scream/Childhood for peer review. I would like to send it to FAC over the summer. Any assistance is appreciated. — R 2 00:07, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your advice. I have decided not to join as I'm a little bit nervous about the whole thing. I know my dad wanted me to but I will maybe join when I am more confident. Thank you. Wee Tuck ( talk) 04:31, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Given this article in a British Sunday newspaper, do you think the David Boothroyd deletion review should be reopened, or restarted, or...? Thanks GTD 12:56, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi! I'm puzzled...
It seems that you deleted the redirect I created on the grounds that it was a copyright infringement. How can it be? It's only a redirect... I created the link after hearing and reading various news reports how Gordon Brown was a laughing stock around the word for having said "Obama Beach" instead of "Omaha Beach" at the D-Day commemoration. It was a redirect to Gordon Brown. I intended to forestall any attempt at deletion by placing the relevant citation on the article, knowing that it was invisible and would not interfere with the redirect. Now it seems that the citation caused its deletion. Boohoohoo! Ohconfucius ( talk) 02:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
You've got mail. JoshuaZ ( talk) 03:23, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Re User talk:85.75.155.167: This is a bit of a problem: this address is being caught in a range block ( [6]) which I've had to keep in force for more or less the last half year, due to an extremely persistent harassment vandal. So, this might well be a legitimate user suffering collateral damage, or the vandal himself trying to take advantage of the fact I'll be without admin bits for the next few months. I'd prefer if we could discuss the rest off-wiki, if you don't mind? Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:11, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi, on the ref desk you and I both mentioned a formula where its possible to show that the chances of flipping coin outcomes can give unexpected results, I was wondering could you name the formula or something. Although I don't understand it, got into a pub argument over it with some engineers. Many thanks MedicRoo ( talk) 09:19, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Was it in regards to this? rootology ( C)( T) 13:54, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi Jayron32. I read carefully everything you tell , so i found references to proove that my second article was notable and other admin restored it. After so many time, i understand i think my mistake to our article here, and i added refference from a university, Aristotle_University www.auth.gr | www.ee.auth.gr and experiments it did with Karheim lambs in PDF. Please can you tell me if now outside of itself and Wikipedia, people have written about Karheim or not? What you think of a university and a thesis posted globally about this? Please find article here [7] and in page 2 of abstract. Thanks a lot! Psikxas ( talk) 00:59, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
The Barnstar of Good Humor | ||
It's nice to find a admin that has the same sense of humor I do, and the same kind of views of what Wikipedia should be as well. Oh FYI one of your user boxen is out of date. Whispe ring 08:10, 13 June 2009 (UTC) |
In regards to this, it's June 13 my time. I decided we've waited enough and began Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:ChildofMidnight/David Boothroyd. rootology ( C)( T) 13:47, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your interest and responses J-ron. I was a little hurt by your comment that you're not a fan of mine (or something like that, I can't recall your exact wording) but time heals all wounds. The throwing out of appropriate procedure, courtesy, and common sense by those on a concerted campaign to delete the article is disturbing. It's especially ironic that they accuse everyone else of bad faith as they trample our policies and guidelines. Oh well. Back to work. :) Have a nice weekend. Thanks again for your courtesy and reasonable approach. ChildofMidnight ( talk) 16:41, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
J, I'm good with the article now. As indicated previously, my preference would be to move it to article space and have it go through an AfD to determine notability. I don't think it's substantially similar to the previous version, so I don't think a DRV is the appropriate route. I think I understand why some might prefer that process. If there are legitimate reasons for doing it that way I'm willing to take those viewpoints into consideration. I prefer AfD because I think that's the normal process in a case like this.
If there is a BLP violation, that particular content can be removed (although I can't really see how anyone can make a good case for one being in the article as it stands). So if someone thinks there is one maybe that issue should go to BLPN now before article creation?
As far as the AfD (or DRV) goes, I'm happy to nom it myself or to work on a neutral nom statement with other concerned editors. I think putting an end to the flame wars would be a good thing and a hyper-partisan nom statement would be inappropriate. But maybe that's out of my control. And I guess I can't stop anyone from editing the article, but presumably it will be watched closely and disruptive edits or edit warring quashed. I don't think any of the citations should be removed as they help establish notability, but I understand some editors disputed the reliability of some of them, so I guess we'll see what happens there too...
I'm looking forward to getting the article out of my userspace and reaching a community consensus on the article's future, but I'm flexible on the timing so let me know if you have any thoughts or concerns in that regard. Cheers. Thanks again for your help. ChildofMidnight ( talk) 04:29, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Jayron32. It appears Psikxas ( talk · contribs) has resorted to plagiarism in his strenuous, ongoing effort to promote a non-notable company. Please see here. Now what? — Scheinwerfermann T· C16:31, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Hello again. I have finally posted my first wiki. My only issues, remaining (that I am aware of presently) are those which I have read and read and read and read about but not found any real answers.
1. Stubs: Do I need stubs? If so, how do I know what stubs I need to use, where can I find a full list of stubs to choose from? And, how do I type the stub into the wiki? ie. format of stub in wiki
2. Categories: I have added two categories but not absolutely sure I have chosen the correct categories. How do I choose categories? Some of the categories I thought it was offering as pre-existing actually did not exist at all.
3. Search keywords: This I am at a complete loss. I realize that one wiki is linked to another and so on, and how to do this [[]]. However, the wiki is named NanoScale Corporation. However, if I simply type NanoScale in the search bar, it redirects me to a wiki about nanotechnology.... Obviously redirects will not fix this issue, how do I fix it, so that the first word of the name when used as a search word, gives the option to view NanoScale Corporation or the nanotechnology wiki, and the same with NanoScale Corp?
Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by NHearn ( talk • contribs) 17:50, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
I just wanted to thank you again. Your input is greatly appreciated and very helpful! This has been a challenging and somewhat intimidating experience, although an exciting one as well. I will keep in mind the tips and information you have provided. But I wanted to thank you so much for making this a bit less scary.
NHearn (
talk) 14:37, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
You are mentioned in a Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User conduct. The Request for Comment page is here. Cirt ( talk) 22:22, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
The Reference Desk Barnstar | ||
Thanks for answering my poker hand question on the Miscellaneous Reference Desk!-- Ye Olde Luke ( talk) 00:04, 18 June 2009 (UTC) |
A RfC has been opened to discuss the issue of alignment of the lead image on the Joseph Priestley article. Because you have previously commented or been involved with this issue at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Joseph Priestley, your input is requested. Please stop by Talk:Joseph Priestley#RfC on lead image alignment and leave any feedback you may have. Thank you. Madcoverboy ( talk) 03:20, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Hello Jayron32. You are one of the admins who looked into this issue. The concern about the Karheim article was recently archived from AN with no action, and User:Scheinwerfermann reposted the question at WP:ANI#Still unresolved. Based on the evidence so far, and the evasive response by User:Psikxas, I would be inclined to issue an indef block of Psikxas. Would you have any comment on this idea? He seems to have no idea that linking from Headlamp and Karheim to a forged reference is a serious matter. Even if he were not the one to create the fake document, his nonchalance seems like a form of willing deception. Thanks, EdJohnston ( talk) 18:26, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
"Well, I have left a stern warning at Radiopathy's talk page. Lets just say that the ball is in his court now. Lets see what he does with it..." He blatantly ignores it and blanks it. What now? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ( Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 04:26, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
I was hoping they'd retract the threat, so I could unblock. However, they seem to have just disappeared, so I'll shorten this a bit. Tim Vickers ( talk) 16:28, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
I was pretty surprised at your nom of this article. Did you bother to do a google news search? The guy has a long career of interesting and notable cases. I hope you'll use more diligence in the future. It's also distressing to me that you appear to have signed on with the POV pushers in hounding and targeting editors with whom they disagree over political issues. That type of censorship and abuse is totally unaccpetable and I was truly very surprised to see you taking part in it. ChildofMidnight ( talk) 23:52, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
I've seen my name thrown out today by CoM as a "POV pusher" at least on 3 different occasions. I'll just point out that I haven't edited any articles in which he's involved in, that I am aware of, in quite some time. I think there was 1 or 2 a month ago but pretty much all has been quiet between us since. I didn't even participate in the Arbcom discussion although I certainly could have with a cache of diffs to prove the pot/kettle similarity of CoM. I'm assuming he now has an issue with me because I supported the topic ban of Grundle at the related AN/I thread. Let it be known that I've never edited an article that Grundle has created. Not even a vandalism revert that I am aware of. Continued slandering of me all over wiki-kingdom by CoM is really getting old while he continues to attack other users and then play his usual "they are picking on me" game. He's obviously further on the attack against me because of the AN/I thread I started today about his personal attacks where, while blocked today, he referred to other editors as "assholes" and "monkeys" on his talk page. Don't be fooled by this charade Jayron. Just follow the diffs trail, the proof is in the pudding so to speak. - ALLST✰R▼ echo wuz here 02:07, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
This removal was not only a revert of a banned user but also, as I made clear at User talk:ChildofMidnight, an arbitration enforcement action. Unilateral reversal is explicitly forbidden. Please revert yourself; if you wish to insert a placeholder to indicate that comments have been removed, that would obviously be a good compromise - I would do so myself but it could be construed as wheel-warring. CIreland ( talk) 13:42, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
The Reference Desk Barnstar | ||
Thank you for answering my Earth as Time Keeper question on the Science Reference Desk! -- Ye Olde Luke ( talk) 03:54, 27 June 2009 (UTC) |
I am currently in "hot water" in Wikipedia. My previous mentor Shell (a highly respected administrator, which is why I chose her) did not want to mentor me anymore and is very put out with me. The history is in our voluminous archived talk pages; the current problems are in my current talk pages, with their links to a proposed "topic ban" and now a proposed "community ban". I was already thinking of asking for a new mentor and someone today suggested (compassionately) that I do that. Would you be willing to take me on (if I am not banned from the community)? I need to spend a lot of time in the near future offline and not able to be very active over the summer and the fall (and therefore would not be "troubling" Wikipedia anyway, but when I am able to check in to Wikipedia, I believe I need further mentoring. Thanks for considering this request (if you do). -- NYScholar ( talk) 18:29, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Despite having been editing here as NYScholar since June 2005, I still (according to several other editors and Shell) have serious problems with interpersonal interactions with these other Wikipedia editors and administrators (including Shell); I am too wordy for any of their tastes, and they interpret what I write differently from what I am intending to say. Please see the suggestions of Abd on my current talk page and the contexts in the current proposed "topic ban" and "community ban" discussions and the historical contexts of what they link to. It's a long ongoing situation. I don't really see any "house style" in WP:MOS via the link to WP:CITE, because there are many different "optional" guidelines given, any of which, MOS states, via WP:CITE, is reasonable as long as it is "consistent". I am afraid that I do not currently have the time to engage in changing the MLA style citations in Harold Pinter; others will have to do that. The information I provide in "full citations" can easily be converted by those with experience in doing whatever it is these editors are wanting to do. The larger problems are in how to interact with any of them in the future (when I may have time to return to editing Wikipedia articles). The amount of time I have had to take to deal with the "topic ban" discussion initiated by two other editors over the past few days is the end of the time that I have to edit Wikipedia in the near future. I've provided 2 new articles (yesterday) and some minor edits, but that's it for now. It would be a longterm mentorship picking up later in the summer or fall, since I have to work outside Wikipedia all summer and some of fall and also will be traveling for work in fall. -- NYScholar ( talk) 19:00, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Those central to wanting to institute a community ban of me as an editor of Wikipedia say that my comments are too long when I respond to others' comments and requests for explanations. Evidence of my thoughts and thought processes is already present throughout my talk pages, if you need examples. I do not expect you or anyone else to be a mind-reader, and so I do explain what I mean extensively and, I think, clearly. But, despite having asked for responses, they just don't want to read such lengthy comments.
My prose in Wikipedia articles is clear, I believe. Any literate person should be able to understand it. But the so-called general reader of Wikipedia, according to these other editors, need simpler sentences. When that is pointed out, I do break up my more complex sentences into shorter simple ones. Nevertheless, conventional documentation is to add a source citation (endnote superscript) at the end of a clause or sentence, to avoid disruption of sentence coherence. That results in the use of more complex sentences using semicolons to separate independent clauses or in the repeating of source citations (endnote superscript numbers). Yet, this solution of using a complex sentence, apparently, is not acceptable to many Wikipedia editors, who state that the "general reader" will not understand, that it is "too complex" for such a reader. I think that many Wikipedia editors underestimate the competence of the "general reader" of English-speaking Wikipedia and do not recognize that the readership is highly diverse, heterogenous, and not homogenous. The result can be an inadvertent "dumbing down" of articles in the humanities (which I do not find in articles in the Sciences and technical subjects in Wikipedia. Literary studies is no less a discipline than the Sciences and other technical subjects, yet Wikipedia editors whom I encounter in these disputes do not seem to recognize that.
Unfamiliar with conventional academic source citations in the field of literature, many of these Wikipedia editors are adamant about using what they call "Wikipedia standard" citations (which you also mentioned). Yet, according to the current version of WP:MOS and WP:CITE, there is no such single "recommended" Wikipedia standard citation style (no such single "recommended" citation "house style"). In other words, the current WP:MOS (a series of often "optional style guidelines") does not support that position. The discrepancy between what one finds in the WP:MOS (currently in places under dispute) and what these editors claim is "Wikipedia standard" is leading to further communication problems among all of us editors.
Moreover, there appears to be some kind of entrenched cultural antipathy to American academic scholars and expert scholarship in Wikipedia, when one is writing about a subject relating to the UK and Australia, particularly. Such obvious antipathy makes it difficult, sometimes impossible, to communicate with them. There is little to no respect for what well-trained American academic teachers and scholars have to offer this project, despite the location of Wikipedia in America and the likelihood that there are more American readers and writers involved in Wikipedia than any other "variety of English"-speaking group. The under-the-radar "politics" of Wikipedia is very difficult to navigate (see Abd's comment on my talk page), and perhaps you can help me with navigating (or steering clear of) it.
The specifics of these situations are currently still located in my own archived talk pages and being referred to, often indirectly, in the current Administrators Noticeboard, where I believe oversimplified restatements of sometimes very complex situations (documented in Wikipedia archives of project pages and talk pages) are being made by former participants in previous disputes and "endorsements" of banning me are accruing, based on previous comments of an endorser, in the manner of the game Telephone (or the film [[Rumor (film)|Rumor).
Although I will not be editing articles in Wikipedia for extended periods of time, I have moved a copy of the current version of Harold Pinter into my own user sandbox as well as printed it out for future reference if it is needed. I will not be working on it further in the near future, and, obviously, if topic-banned or community-banned, not at all. I am not sure at this time whether or not a community ban will be instituted. If it is, there can be no future mentorship of me, so this request would become moot.
While these other editors tend to insist that there is something wrong with me personally and that no one else has any significant role in these communication conflicts (disputes), it appears to me that the Wikipedia "community" is highly dysfunctional when it comes to accepting the work of professional American academic scholars and editors.
I will need additional assistance with determining whether or not and how a professional American academic scholar and editor like me whose fields of expertise include British drama and theater (theatre), particularly Harold Pinter, can function productively in an environment sometimes dominated by mostly amateur editors who are familiar only or mostly with writing in and for Wikipedia and not familiar with the conventional documentation formats and standards set forth in other style guides taught in colleges and universities in the United States and many other English-speaking countries. The so-called general reader educated from high school on in the U.S. is taught these formats and standards and should be able to understand them when they are used in Wikipedia articles. But the claim to the contrary is prevailing in the attempt to "ban" me (from topic and/or from Wikipedia entirely). -- NYScholar ( talk) 01:43, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
I am sorry that is how you see what I wrote. Maybe I should get used to being misconstrued. I do certainly follow WP:MOS. My point above is that there is a serious discrepancy between what WP:MOS/ WP:CITE states—that there is no single recommended citation style in Wikipedia, but rather many possible optional citation styles, one of which is parenthetical referencing (MLA style being one of them), which I used in Harold Pinter, which meets all WP:LOP—and these editors' position that there is such a thing as Wikipedia citation "house style". Please see WP:MOS/ WP:CITE for what I am referring to. I understand that you are "not terribly interested"; that's fine; but please do not believe or state that I "don't feel like [I] need to follow [WP] policies and guidelines." The opposite is actually the case. I follow them precisely. (cont.)
The discrepancy is between what editors are claiming is "standard" citation style and what the WP:MOS/ WP:CITE actually states. I follow the "prevailing citation style" in articles that exist prior to my getting to them if that style is consistent; otherwise, I attempt to use a consistent style, often employing "citation templates" for many kinds of subjects. But for literary subjects, espec. in articles that I have created or that I have been one of the main contributors, or the main contributor, I have followed WP:CITE to the letter and used "full citations" using the very latest edition of MLA style. See e.g, Harold Pinter and politics, which meets WP:V in its use of full citations in use of MLA style parenthetical referencing and endnotes (compatible in MLA style). Or see many of the other articles I've worked on over the years via my user page messages from others, or my contributions link. I am totally in agreement with following WP:V and WP:CITE via "full citations". The style is what people are arguing about; and MLA style is currently permitted via WP:CITE's references to parenthetical referencing as an optional style possibility. (cont.)
I understand that your own position is that you don't want to mentor me, however. Thanks anyway. -- NYScholar ( talk) 02:42, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Don't be a luzr. Bullzeye and the_undertow will be there, too. Also maybe MZMcBride and east718. لenna vecia 16:25, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
For accidentally reverting you on User talk:Gogo Dodo. Cheers, → Dylan 620 (Toolbox Alpha, Beta) 02:13, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for reverting the MascotGuy impostor. There have been a few of them around lately. -- Gogo Dodo ( talk) 06:24, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
I've had a couple skeletons in my closet, not vandalism, just a couple of arguments with other users which went unnoticed (no blocks). I've started this account because after a through review of WP:SOCK I've determined one thing: yes, I can "start over". However, can a fresh start ever become an admin? I have created this account, well I guess, to evade ppl at my AfDs from looking too far in my past ... and according to WP:SOCK that violates policy. ThaMoonwalker ( talk) 06:21, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi - I just wanted to say thanks for nominating my mating moths picture as a featured picture candidate! It's my first one, and it never would have crossed my mind to nominate it, especially because I just took it while running for a bus. I missed the bus, but learnt something about moths, so it worked out alright! Thanks again -- Kateshort forbob 10:42, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
You used a naughty word in your edit summary, so quake in your boots lest you be blocked. As an admin you can't do that, but I'm not an admin so I can swear all I want. So there. The sad thing is that I'm not all that certain whether I'm joking or not. Bleah. This place sucks more every day. Short Brigade Harvester Boris ( talk) 05:54, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi! Thanks for your quick response. You have really saved me a lot of time. Yes, as you told, it would be “Dollo’s law”. There should have been a typo error in the syllabus. Yeswanthrm ( talk) 06:02, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
I could use some help. You seem to be the one with the issue over the National Memorial Ride. How do I format it so that it is not advertising?? Ive tried to answer the basic questions of who, what where and how. I posted references that are third party. When I look at the Canadian Army Veterans (The CAV) wiki article, all its references are to its own web site and those links dont work. It is a FOR PROFIT organization owned by one man, yet its blatant advertisement is allowed to exist. The Ride existed, it took place, and with 328 riders showing up from across Ontario and Quebec, it is notable. That it was the first time Motorcyclist were allowed to ride into a Canadian Cemetery is notable. Yet you seem to have an issue with this, can you please point out how we are advertising, and the The CAV is not??-- GankT19 ( talk) 10:58, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
cheers -- GankT19 ( talk) 13:48, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Love Ride,Chick-fil-A Kyle Petty Charity Ride Across America, Ride for Heart,Freewheelers EVS John Derringer (commentator), 2008 Centurion Boats at the Glen, Riding Into History,Warlock Motorcycles, and Institute of Advanced Motorists. How are we any different??-- GankT19 ( talk) 14:40, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
-- GankT19 ( talk) 18:23, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Jayron. I must explain myself. Actually the block was set to expire yesterday and it did and I was able to edit. But suddenly today the block came back for no reason. I didnot understand what was happening hence I put the templates. --Legolas (talk2me) 04:03, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Just letting you know that despite your flattering assessment of my 'level of knowledge' about the encyclopedia' (in fact derived from 5-10 minutes reading the relevant articles on editing) this is my first and only Wikipedia account. Simeon Stylites ( talk) 12:33, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Please note Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User page indexing has been repurposed from the standard RFC format it was using into a strraw poll format. Please re-visit the RFC to ensure that your previous endorsement(s) are represented in the various proposals and endorse accordingly.
Dear Jayron32,
As you know Pianocrasher page was meant to be moved to Eugenie Absalom page. I sent a request to administration asking for it.
Information in two articles: Acoustic Graffiti and Oleg Lapidus was moved to Wikipedia main page not exactly the way I was planning to do it (as I thought that was being moved to Eugenie Absalom page).
I already added two paragraphs of text to Acoustic Graffiti article and reference list.
It means that two paragraphs can be taken off Oleg Lapidus article - I intended to leave just intro and biography of Oleg Lapidus in it.
Alternatively just one article can be left with the full amount of information in it.
I consider Oleg Lapidus a notable person because he has four music educations as stated in his biography and he combines his professional music skills and creative vision in developing a new art trend - Acoustic Graffiti, which has similar artistic vision as Street piano - one of the Wikipedia entries.
I gave eleven references to support the entry so far I can expand on the reference list. The image supplied with the article is my own and I am planning to upload more images (Acoustic Graffiti).
I wonder if you could possibly give me some time to do so, please?
Yours sincerely,
Eugenie Absalom -- Eugenie Absalom ( talk) 15:12, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
I want an admin who is not busy. -- TheCommunityWave ( talk) 19:36, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Just wanted to ask.. how come you tagged [8] as AfD? Surely it is CSD material if it is a copyvio? — Deon555 talkI'm BACK! 01:52, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
I was indeed affected by this block, as I have an account on this machine and am a contributor to this project. Thank you for reviewing and unblocking this for me, though.
Kitambi ( talk) 04:46, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
I believe Soccermeko to be back. You had a lot of experience with him the last time around, so your review and comments are welcome at WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Soccermeko.— Kww( talk) 02:15, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Maybe a box (similar to an award) thanking those for article writing during the dramaout period. Just a thought. Too early to give it out now because the period hasn't even started. I will plan article writing a few days ahead of time to practice/get used to withdrawal symptoms. In other words, a few days before the dramaout, I may stop editing completely as I suffer withdrawal and also plan what articles to write. Come Sunday or Monday Juy 19th/20th, I'll start with a bang. User F203 ( talk) 16:47, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Oops, I made a comment in ANI. See, even if it doesn't increase drama, it takes away time from editing. This is another reason for me to participate in the article campaign next week. User F203 ( talk) 18:10, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your help and also is the CVU only for admins -- Meteorman7228 ( talk) 22:35, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
with this editor. Possibly trying to frame User:Werdna, another admin.-- The Legendary Sky Attacker 23:47, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Hello Jayron, I came across this user's
contribs and warned him on his talk page but I think more eyes will be necessary. He's been getting away with it for some time. Thank you for looking,
⋙–Berean–Hunter—► (
(⊕)) 01:53, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
I really do not mind you keeping it open. I don't get the email thing. I really think that we should let PD play this out. Law type! snype? 12:10, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
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Thanks! Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 20:05, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Dear Jayron,
Thanks very much for your notes. I will follow the instructions to revise the article I tried to creat. Could you please unlock my PC-id. Now I can't open it. when can I start to creat the page again? Thanks very much for your help Rose718 ( talk) 07:59, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Hello Jayron32, one of the accused sockpuppets of mine Sbharris has responded to Carrt81, here [ [9]], proving I am not a sockpuppet of that name or JohnTex as Carrt81 has announced on the board. For what it is worth.-- Victor9876 ( talk) 19:49, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Oddoflyoko ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is a sockpuppet of MataNui44 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) whom you recently blocked. Thatcher 21:21, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Hey Jayron,
I took off a couple weeks from wikipedia. There is just SOOOO much out there, and so little me. I've stuck to copy-editing articles, and reverting vandalism as a way of helping the community. I've installed Lupin's tools, and I have Twinkle set-up. Can you give me rollback rights to make vandal-fighting easier?
Hope you had a Happy 4th!
StNicksRocks ( talk) 03:31, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Good work taking the dramaout idea. It is a good idea. AN/I is an addictive place for many users and this would be a good time to show everyone that if we didn't keep relying on AN/I all the time to solve every dispute, we'd actually get a lot more work done.-- The Legendary Sky Attacker 01:15, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Per your suggestion, I started an AfD here. -- Blanchardb - Me• MyEars• MyMouth- timed 02:40, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
You may also be interested in my summaries, as an admin who has been involved in SOPHIAN controversies: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:William_M._Connolley&diff=302387535&oldid=302377030 -- Andrew Lancaster ( talk) 09:55, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the message, I have already informed wikipedia of the users actions as I feel he vandalised the page I was editing. My actions were in good faith, not intended to cause any harm and the only reason I violated guide lines was by mistake. The user then insulted me, was rude, abusive and for this reason I took it further and above you. Thanks for your time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danwilson82 ( talk • contribs)
Hello, I was just trying to update the photograph for Stewart Downing but the page will not let me. I read the guide lines and they said I should contact the admin who locked the page and I believe that was you.
This football player moved to my club yesterday and on his page it still shows him in the old teams shirt. I have permission from the Aston Villa F.C website to upload a new picture taken by them yesterday. By the way, I thought I should also inform you that the picture currently on the page is a copyright breach. It featured in an english football magazine and that isn't allowed as far as i'm aware, just thought you may like to speak to the alledged copyright owner.
Regards
Villainnumber1 ( talk) 11:28, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to
attack other editors, as you did on
Medieval. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Thank you.
I was looking at the history of the article over a greater time frame. There are alot of edits related to redirecting etc. Also I don't appreciate being called a "newb".
Patchy1
Talk To Me! 13:51, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
awesome! :) – Juliancolton | Talk 18:24, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Please note that I have found and am in the process of referencing out of universe context per [11], which is only the surface of what I have found on Google Books. Please reconsider. Thanks! Sincerely, -- A Nobody My talk 22:57, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
You got some pretty big support for the greatest Wiki-Holiday ever. Nice work. Law type! snype? 13:09, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Would vandalism patrolling be exempt during this five-day period?-- The Legendary Sky Attacker 04:33, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Just so you know (since you put up the onhold thing), I've declined to unblock Cognition for right now to clear out the backlog some, but have offered him some terms under which he can be unblocked, which include mentorship, civility and BLP probations, and a restriction to a single account. Once he accepts these and finds a mentor, he can probably be unblocked. Please feel free to comment; the terms I offered were mostly based on the AN discussion and may need some modification. Hersfold non-admin( t/ a/ c) 14:54, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the thank you, but I didn't really do anything but stay out of arguments. :) Who then was a gentleman? ( talk) 02:18, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Same for me. Kayau Jane Eyre PRIDE AND PREJUDICE les miserables 02:34, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for organizing the No Drama Days 2009 festival. I got a lot of article work done from my to do list. The spirit of the event was very positive and I think the discussions it sparked were interesting. ChildofMidnight ( talk) 17:08, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Based on a cursory look, the article writing campaign was a qualified success. It was not the solution to end all problems but it looks good. There's a few more measures that I want to gauge before making a final judgement, one of them requiring a post-campaign timepoint in 1 week to see the effects (not fully described because I don't want the test subject (wikipedians) to taint or influence the results.
Is there an interest to do this again in early to mid December 2009 and again 6 months later? I hope so.
There are the perpetual problems that I don't quite know the answer. They include massive incivility (usually quickly blocked), moderate incivility, changing to subject from a discussion to "you're a sock", using stock excuses like "undue weight" when the real reason is one doesn't like something, Israeli articles, Macedonia articles, Obama partisanship, global warming, etc. Do the authors of collaborative textbooks have this problem? I don't think so. I have some ideas but do you? In the mean time, repeating the article writing campaign looks to be a good thing to do twice a year. In real life, once a year is standard but on the internet, attention span is short. User F203 ( talk) 22:05, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
During the dramaout, I saw an article where an administrator did not like a new article so he put an AFD on it (it survived) and immediately blocked the editor with the excuse...you're a sock. Probably too old but I didn't think that was particularly civil or nice. The other sockpuppet master did not edit that article so even if the users were the same, they were not faking a consensus. More likely, the users were different. Do we ignore this or not? I'm leaning towards ignoring it because I don't like drama, just editing. User F203 ( talk) 22:27, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
I propose a semi-protection of this article. I counted about 28 reverted edits in the last 24 hours.-- The Legendary Sky Attacker 22:13, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Never mind. Already done.-- The Legendary Sky Attacker 22:14, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi Jayron,
As you'd know I stuck a warning template on that Anon's page about the incitement to take legal action he made regarding User:Mike R. I was going to report it, but I wasn't sure where one reports legal threats and like issues. Is it WP:ANI or somewhere else? There are so many noticeboards. Cheers, Crafty ( talk) 05:50, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabella_(novel)
Should this article be deleted? What is your opinion? I don't know the guidelines well enough. I do like Finland. That's the F in my user name. The author of the book is Finnish. However, she is not that famous. Very famous authors' books are deemed notable. User F203 ( talk) 17:32, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
The Anti-Drama Barnstar | ||
Thank you for participating in The Great Wikipedia Dramaout 2009, avoiding drama for a full 5 days!-- The Legendary Sky Attacker 04:12, 26 July 2009 (UTC) |
Hi. In light of recent events and community concerns about the way in which content is transferred I have proposed a new wikiproject which would attempt to address any of the concerns and done in an environment where a major group of editors work together to transfer articles from other wikipedias in the most effective way possible without BLP or referencing problems. Please offer your thoughts at the proposal and whether or not you support or oppose the idea of a wikiproject dedicated to organizing a more efficient process of getting articles in different languages translated into English. Dr. Blofeld White cat 12:53, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
I've taken a look at ANI to see if dramaout had an effect.
Last Monday, at 1500 UTC, the dramaout was in full swing. ANI was a mere 282 kb in length. This Monday, at 1500 UTC (a few minutes ago), ANI was 317 kb in length.
Subjectively, ANI looks longer now. During the article writing campaign, ANI did look smaller. ANI did shrink even smaller than 282 kb but I chose a point at random to avoid cherry picking the data.
Although the sample size is small, I think the project was good. User F203 ( talk) 15:20, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
BorgQueen ( talk) 18:08, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
I thought, as a glowing participant, that a shiny new barnstar was coming my way... - 00:15, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
I appreciate your efforts, and know from personal experience it must've taken some time reading through all that lot, but I think the close and move are both premature, as useful discussion is still ongoing and two ideas put forward very recently (date disambiguation and "(Bible foo)" are in the early stages of discussion and look reasonably promising. It would be nice if the consensus that emerged included no opposes and certainly no strong ones, as per the heroine one, which I consider inherent POV and therefore the worst of all of the options discussed!
Cheers -- Dweller ( talk) 12:41, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. -- Dweller ( talk) 10:49, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Mixing it up. Like it. Yay green. hmwith τ 13:48, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Orlady ( talk) 13:28, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
I want to ask your opinion if a potential article is notable. First, some background. I have no hidden political agenda.
In late 2008, with great fanfare, then Senator Obama suspended his campaign and went to Hawaii. His Hawaiian trips have been well covered by reliable sources. His trips have been much more notable than most politicians' trips.
Would a well sourced Barack Obama trips to Hawaii be a potential article to write? One source: http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed2/idUSTRE49K07G20081021 Other sources cover his shave ice trip with his girls.
If Wikipedia is only about articles such as Australia, Charles de Gaulle, World War II, then the Barack Obama Trips to Hawaii would not qualify. However, WP has many minor articles and subarticles User F203 ( talk) 20:50, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up, although my input (considering I only gave a 31 hour standard editwar block back in February) may not be as useful as that from say VSmith. I have given input however. GARDEN 20:53, 31 July 2009 (UTC)