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2006, November Information

Hi!

Here's something else to add about Region 1 Season 7 DVDs. Info on Amazon and DVDEmpire:

We've added a release for "Charmed" to the site. "The Complete Seventh Season" will be released on 2/06/2007. For all the information, you may visit http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/releaseinfo.cfm?ReleaseID=6267

Please help support TVShowsOnDVD.com by ordering the title from the links on our site. It's through people using those links that we are able to pay for the operation of the site.

Buy this title from:

Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000JLTRIG/tvshowsondvdcom Amazon.ca: http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000JU7JBY/tvshowsondvdc-20 DVDEmpire.com: http://www.dvdempire.com/Exec/v4_item.asp?item_id=1244403&partner_id=11367434 DVDPlanet: Not Available Yet

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Thanks, TVShowsOnDVD.com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Robinepowell ( talk • contribs) 20:35, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

(X-Posted) Thanks for that, it allowed me to convert the existing cite to a non-retailer site, which is always preferable. TVShowsOnDVD.com is an excellent resource. -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 02:21, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome, thought I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to do say. Lol! :D —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Robinepowell ( talk • contribs) 15:35, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

(X-Posted) Lol, I meant that I replaced a previously added citation that linked to a retail site with the site you provided. It is always better when possible to use a citation to a neutral website (such as TVShowsOnDVD) so that it does not appear that wikipedia is favouring a particular retailer. Also, remember that when you comment on talk pages you should sign your message with ~~~~ (four tildés) so that your nickname and timestamp will appear, just like this one --> "-- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 01:33, 3 November 2006 (UTC)"

Thanks, I think, I've got a lot to learn about Wikipedia! Robinepowell 22:40, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Where do I put my name? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Robinepowell ( talk • contribs) 15:08, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

(X-Posted) You mean to sign comments on talk pages? Okay, just place the ~~~~ immediately after your comment. Just look at how I sign my comments: not on the next line, but directly after the last word of my comment. The four tildés are important, so that both your name and the timestamp are included. -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 22:16, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

You mean like this? Robinepowell 01:49, 4 November 2006 (UTC)Robin :o)

(X-Posted) Yes, that's perfect! Also, remember you don't have to start a new section for every post you make. You can simply hit "edit this page" at the top and scroll to where the conversation is taking place, or hit "edit" next to the section you want to add something to. This helps keep the conversation flowing. When you do this, use a semi-colon (:) in front of your message to indent it (like this post is); you can use more than one to indent several spaces. Take a look at various talk pages and you'll see what I mean. This is also useful for conversation organization. Cheers! -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 06:48, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Here's their website: http://www.vrak.tv/grille/index.jsp

Since you have a link for TNT's and Showcase Diva's schedule listed for Charmed (with a little number too) thought you could to the same for VrakTV. Robinepowell 11:16, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the update! Robinepowell 04:11, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

If we're gonna keep that image, you'd best argue for its inclusion at

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Images_and_media_for_deletion#Image:Evanescence_1.jpg

and

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_talk:Evanescence_1.jpg

because as it stands right now, it'll be deleted in a week.

Good compromise. Thanks for coming up with it. — Lantoka ^{( talk | contrib)} 23:11, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and in response to this:

"Okay Armando, please calm down and think rationally. I do not understand why you are taking such offense at this."

It's pretty clear he's upset from the double standard in enforcing the Fair Use Criteria. I was none too happy when Roguegeek first stripped our article of good images either. In cases like this when a person is strongly upset by something, they're gonna vent their anger toward somebody, and in this case it was Roguegeek for cracking down on our articles and not others. I must say, I sympathize with him. — Lantoka ^{( talk | contrib)} 23:22, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for creating that, fills an important gap. Rich Farmbrough, 14:13 11 November 2006 (GMT).

DO you feel like doing a raing-3 template? (What's the Story) Morning Glory? looks a bit oddt the moment. Rich Farmbrough, 12:57 12 November 2006 (GMT).

(X-Posted) Hey Rich, I'll be more than happy to take care of that (might make a rating-6 also, as they've been known to exist). I'll get the code set up in a few hours, and create the images when I get home from work. I'll let you know when Rating-3 is complete, and set links on the existing templates. I think we need to find an appropriate place to advertise these, as I've not seen a mention of them anywhere in the Wikiprojects. Not sure where would be most appropriate though. Also been thinking about modifying the existing templates to accept 0.1 incriments of input, while still using the half-star icons, but I'll worry about that later. Thoughts? -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 20:13, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks - yes I've seen the "stars of 6". As for .1 increments, on the talk page of rating-10 I suggested an additional parameter as an alternative "alt" text for just this reason. Rich Farmbrough, 20:20 12 November 2006 (GMT).

(X-Posted) Aye, I saw that comment, which is what got me thinking about allowing actual imput of 6.9 which would render the approximate amount of stars and alt text. It's just a concept idea, and I don't know how difficult it would be to impliment it. -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 20:23, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

(X-Posted) ::Just letting you know that {{Template:Rating-3}} and {{Template:Rating-6}} have now been created. I still need to create the graphics, but I should have that done around 12-14:00 ET Monday. Also, that full decimal system works fine, and I don't see any need for additional graphics outside of the half-star system already in place. Cheers! -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 04:56, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

(X-Posted) Okay, just updating that images are finished and everything is ready to go. I wanted to ask, though, about your Rating-10 template. The resulting image is very wide, and somewhat unwieldy with the current infoboxes. To that end, would you mind if I created some custom, smaller stars for this template, and rework the code? My thought is to reduce the size to about 60 to 70% of current, so it is longer than the other ratings, but not so wide that it doesn't fit well inside the infobox. -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 19:14, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes, make any sane changes you like. Rich Farmbrough, 20:52 13 November 2006 (GMT).

(X-Posted) Alright, changes finally made to {{Template:Rating-10}}. If you don't like it, please revert. -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 10:57, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Looks fine to me, and disposes of the "hack". Rich Farmbrough, 18:05 17 November 2006 (GMT).

I got into a revert contest over the word "payoff" in the SS article. I think it's OK because it's a quote. It keeps getting changed to "settlement". I put it in quotes, but still got changed. I changed it back and stuck it in discussion. Seems like people are really touchy about the word "payoff", and I don't think it is any different than "settelement". Here is my question: Do quotes from cited articles have to be NPOV? Can people change quotes just because they don't like what they say? When you get in a war like this, who makes the final decision? Are there moderators to defer to? Do you have time to go into the article and add your two cents. Thanks. Misstory 00:06, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

(X-Posted) Hey, thanks for bringing this to my attention. While I'm not an admin, I must say that a quote is a quote for a reason, and to change the wording renders it not a quote, and at worst places the quotation in questionable legal status (aka, misrepresenting the newspaper). I'll delve into this and see what I can work out. -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 00:36, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for having a look. Also, I apologize for reverting more than 3 times. I got a little excited. Misstory 00:39, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again. Misstory 16:45, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Words cannot express my frustration at losing our last Evanescence image. And that after such a heated debate and a widely accepted compromise, too! Grrr... — Lantoka ^{( talk | contrib)} 02:07, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello Huntster. I emailed the cover for Fallen to your MSN address, although I probably should have sent it to your wiki mail address. If that causes any problems, just let me know and I'll resend it. // Sasuke -kun 27 14:11, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

(X-Posted) Oh no, I'm sorry but that email address is a black hole. I only use it for instant messaging due to massive spam problems with Microsoft. I was going to email you my address just to be safe, but you've not confirmed an email addy with wikipedia. So, lets try this: huntster74205-wiki *at* yahoo *dot* com. Thanks for your help in this! -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 17:55, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Just to make sure, I'm replacing the *at* and *dot* with @ and . right? Anyway, I have to go to Home Depot right now (why? I have no idea) so I'll resend you the picture in about 15-30 minutes. // Sasuke -kun 27 19:07, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Someone seems to have beaten me to it by scanning their own image. Oh well. If you want me to, I'll try to get the Open Door cover when I get it back from my friend. // Sasuke -kun 27 18:29, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Man, I totally forgot about them! Well, I only have Fallen and Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge by My Chemical Romance (the scan looks like crap, though. There's not much that I can do with it but hopefully you could improve it). I'd gladly send Fallen over to you (and possibly Three Cheers if you want) if you're still interested. // Sasuke -kun 27 01:00, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey!

Not sure what you're trying to say with this: [quote]Hey, saw your edit at Charmed multimedia. I called it different from Region 1, as the original production is based in Region 1, rather than one of the others. Just as if a DVD was produced in Britain, everything would be different from Region 2.[/quote]

But at the top of the page it says "Most regions share the same cover art; only the covers for Seasons 3, 5 and 7 have been changed for their Region 1 releases." Which is why I changed it back to Region 1 from Region 2. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Robinepowell ( talk • contribs) 21:56, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

(X-Posted) And upon re-reading what I originally wrote, it should have been "changed *from* their Region 1 releases". Oi. -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 03:51, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

(X-Posted) You are my hero. Thanks for the quick action regarding The Open Door and Lithium (Evanescence song). -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 03:58, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

No problem. :-) Keep up the good work.-- Hús ö nd 04:01, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

2006, December Information

(X-Posted) Greetings! I noticed you restored the covers on the article Evanescence. This has been some debate lately, and one that needs to be settled. I take it then that scanned (aka "digitally photographed") reproductions are allowed as not falling under fair use? Or are they still fair use (despite not being originally owned by the company) are simply meet FUC? I appreciate all assistance in clearing this issue up, as we do hope to eventually raise this article to FA, or at least GA, status. Cheers! -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 19:25, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

The only relevant copyright is that of the album cover itself, so that's all that the fair use analysis needs to consider. An accurate photograph of a two-dimensional work is not itself independently copyrightable, because it's merely a copy that adds nothing original. This is not controversial, even if it is not widely understood. Postdlf 19:29, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

(X-Posted) Thank you for responding to this, it helps a lot. Thanks also for posting on the article's talk. -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 19:35, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind me borrowing your vandalism counter userbox for my own user page. It's convenient, since I can put it into my sidebox, and it looks a lot better than what I had there before. Thanks! :) Algebra 05:46, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

(X-Posted) No problem, seeing as how I stole it from someone else's page ;) -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 06:26, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I tried to add France since it's not listed and I found on another Charmed site that someone mentioned the release date for Season 8 on Feb. 19/07 http://www.alapage.com/-/Fiche/DVDV...charmed&sv=X_ML

Can you tell me what I did wrong? http://www.alapage.com/-/Fiche/DVDVideo/926692/DVD/?id=34051141895159&donnee_appel=ALAPAGE&fulltext=charmed&sv=X_ML

http://www.theprophecy.net/showthread.php?p=2484448#post2484448

Robinepowell 23:11, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

You recently attempted to delete Category:Fictional heroines on various redirects "per WP:CFD." However, you also deleted all the other categories which still exist and have no WP:CFD template. I've fixed Layla Williams, Kristin Wells, R Dorothy Wayneright, Gwen Stacy (clone), Maggie Reed and Ramika already. If you are doing this with a bot, the bot needs to be fixed. Gimmetrow 14:56, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

(X-Posted) Well, thank you for correcting my obvious error. I had previously understood or been told that cats weren't necessarily appreciated in redirects; thus, the removals. I shall sit in my corner quietly and ponder the err of my ways :) -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 15:07, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

OK, no problem. In the past it was unusual to categorize redirects, but as far as I can tell, the devs said it was OK. Gimmetrow 15:16, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

No, the only difference between the old logo and the new one is that now the first "A" has a longer tail. Though, which one did you think was blurry? The blue-background one? That's just compression artifacting, which I can fix if it's decided to use it. Really though, I don't care which logo is used, I just thought the blue one would blend more nicely with the infobox border...and no, I *seriously* doubt the colours are going to be changing anytime soon, given how much debate and hem-hawing went into deciding the current scheme; Everyone at Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums seems to agree with it. -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 20:50, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

My bad, I forgot what letter had the small change. ;)

The new logo looks good bro. We should go with that one and, if you're willing, you can clean up the bluriness at your convenience. And if we end up keeping the third photo of them, the entire infobox will end up blending quite nicely.

Good job man. =) — Lantoka ^{( talk | contrib)} 23:20, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

As you can see Australia is getting the same cover art as Germany, which leads me to think we're all getting the same for Charmed S8. http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/791159

The Netherlands is also matching with a cover: http://www.dvd.nl/nieuws.php?id=2495

I attempted to change the "cover art" section but once again I goofed. I still need to figure out Wikipedia's "maze" of links. Lol! Robinepowell 16:57, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

(X-Posted) Slight problem here. Just because Australia has the same cover as Germany means nothing...they have always had the same covers. It is the United States which features different covers, so until the US image is released, we won't know if region 1 will look different from regions 2, 4, etc. I'm going to revert the page for this reason. Btw, I'm just about to get to sleep (worked midnight), but I'll be on AIM if you want to chat this evening. Cheers! -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 16:58, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't get your message until now, after I changed it a second time. I doubt we will get a different cover for Season 8 in Canada/USA. Only odd seasons have changed. And isn't just Australia, The Netherlands too now. Retrieved from " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Robinepowell"

Thanks for your support with the other user "Mal". I posted a reply on my page. I just made on small change. Where it says at the top "different covers for different regions" I changed it to "a different cover for Region 1" since everyone in other countries seems to be getting the same cover. Robinepowell 09:42, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

(X-Posted) Hey, just saw your modification to Evanescence. While you've done a good job here, I question the necessity of devoting that much of article space to what amounts to a relatively minor early controversy. There simply does not need to be that many quotes to get across a fairly simple point. I'm going to attempt to pare it down a little, and I encourage you to find ways to do the same. Lets keep this to one large paragraph or two small ones at most, eh? Thanks! -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 10:48, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

The reason I put those in there was simply to restore what was taken out--taken out because the citation to a few claims no longer existed. That it was taken out when no adequate source was then available is understandable, but I don't think it's unreasonable to put it back in. "That" much is only a single paragraph (at least the text I included), and the controversy did get its share of press. Thus, "comprehensive yet concise" seemed to be the way to go.

When I originally saw the section, it left out a number fairly important facts relevant to the controversy to the extent that it made it look as if the belief of Evanescence being a Christian band was based merely on rumors (indeed, I believe that word is still there in the section). The truth is somewhat different, and thus the section as it was struck me as giving a bit of a false impression. To get the full picture one ought to know the actions and words that the group previously made (consider in particular Ben Moody's words before and after, since they seem especially relevant)--and "that" only takes a paragraph. I hope you won't mind its inclusion, though I agree some of the section could be trimmed a little bit. If it were up to me I would’ve made the section shorter. I was worried that tampering with it further might upset some people. (I felt I was pushing my luck as it was, painting the full picture as I did.) -- Wade A. Tisthammer 04:32, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

(X-Posted) Hey, no, you are right, it does paint a clearer picture. I've done some minor work to it...not much shorter, but a bit less choppy. Hope you are okay with it. I still think it could work with fewer quotes, but I'm actually fine with it as-is. Thanks! -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 08:13, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

(X-Posted) Hey Armando, in the future, don't archive *all* of the talk page. There were still discussions that were actively going on, and now many newer people won't be able to find them (and you aren't supposed to comment on archive pages anyway). So discussion has effectively stopped for any outstanding issues. Besides that, the page wasn't very long...look at previous archives which were twice as long as the new one. Just a tip for the future...don't archive until you have a significant number of dead topics. -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 06:37, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

What? It's really very long. I've cerated this archive Talk:Evanescence/Archive_2 and it's 73 kbs long, while the others are 30 kbs... Armando ^{( talk| ImgTalk| contribs)} 15:57, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

(X-Posted) Oh, I know it was long physically, but the number of articles contained was small. I understand why you archived, I'm just suggesting you don't archive everything when doing so. -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 19:50, 17 December 2006 (UTC);

Oh, OK. No problem! Armando ^{( talk| ImgTalk| contribs)} 22:01, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

As you suggested, i started a charmed mythology type article, currently its here User:Malevious/Charmed_creatures until its ready to be put in mainspace. If you have some spare time on your hands I'd love it if you stopped by there and gave me a hand with it. --Malevious Userpage •Talk Page• Contributions 01:20, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

(X-Posted) Hey, that's great to see. I'll try to contribute something, but I'll admit, I'm much more of a copyeditor than an original author :) -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 04:38, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Hiya, just wanted to drop you a courtesy note to let you know about a current ArbCom proceeding where your name is briefly mentioned: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Naming Conventions. No action is needed on your part, though if you would like to participate in the case by offering a statement, evidence, or comments on the workshop page, you are more than welcome. FYI, El on ka 05:46, 22 December 2006 (UTC)