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Amy Lee Song

Sorry about that. You were right. I had downloaded one version and it was a different person but when I re-checked then you were right. I have to get a hold of that. Thanks for correcting that mistake I made in the page. I thought I had verified it but you were right, thanks again. If you respond here put a talkback on my page. businessman332211 ( talk) 21:23, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

(X-Posted) No problem, I was lucky to find that one website that specifically said it was the Amy Lee from Evanescence. Huntster ( t@c) 21:59, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I apologize

I apologize for posting the "message boards" sites for sources. I'm fairly new to posting sources. What is a good realible source to prove Amy Lee's vocal type? Tribal44 ( talk) 19:16, 8 September 2008 (UTC)Tribal44

(X-Posted) Hey there, no need to apologize, it is I who should be for coming across a bit harsh. It has just been an ongoing situation with that page. The problem, is that there doesn't seem to exist any kind of news article or other valid source that states what her vocal type...just fan sites and the like making such statements. The above messages provide some good information regarding citing sources. Cheers, and good luck. I'd love to see a good source stating her voice type, so we all don't have to keep going through this revert cycle, lol. Huntster ( t@c) 23:23, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Its ok. I do not blame you, lol. I've noticed the aritcle as well, even before I joined Wikipedia. You are right about finding sources on her vocal type. There aren't many of them. I searched on google and came up with nothing accept message boards. I couldn't agree more about finding a true source. She has a lovely mezzo-soprano voice. :} Tribal44 ( talk) 19:56, 9 September 2008 (UTC)Tribal44
I found a good source on her vocals on google search!! [1] Yay :} Tribal44 ( talk) 19:07, 11 September 2008
Note: I had reverted from the main article, and the following was written before I could leave a note on editor's talk page.
Well, never mind on that source, lol. I thought it would be a good one. Tribal44 ( talk) 19:41, 11 September 2008 (UTC)Tribal44
(X-Posted) I'm sorry, but I've reverted your addition again. Helium is another user-generated content website, similar to Wikipedia, with the exception that people can use it to self-publish their own material and others cannot edit it. Anyone can sign up and write an article such as that one. In other words, it is not so different from a blog or fansite...it is just someone's opinion. The site may claim to use "peer-review", but it appears to just be a rating system, no different from rating reviews on Amazon or rating sellers on eBay. If I may suggest, if you can find a website or other source that you think may be good for the article, leave a note with the link on my talk page, and I'll check to see if it is acceptable for use on-Wiki. Huntster ( t@c) 19:43, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Its ok. And, will do!! Tribal44 ( talk) 19:45, 11 September 2008 (UTC)Tribal44
Ok, I've found 1 so far. Is it good for the article??
Source 1: Biographical Information
(X-Posted) This is definitely not a reliable site...just something that was put together for "mystic entertainment". Take a look at the bottom of the link you gave me...some of that biographical material was taken straight from the Wikipedia article! hehe. No telling where the rest was pulled from. Huntster ( t@c) 20:00, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Ohhhh, lol. I didn't see that. I've been searching all over google, and came up with nothing. I wonder why there aren't many sources on her vocal range. Thanks for your help with this :} Tribal44 ( talk) 20:07, 11 September 2008 (UTC)Tribal44

Found another source. Is it good enough? [1] Tribal44 ( talk) 17:14, 20 October 2008 (UTC)Tribal44

Found another [2] Tribal44 ( talk) 23:19, 23 October 2008 (UTC)Tribal44

(X-Posted) Regarding the Amazon listing as a source...there is no mention of her voice type anywhere except the customer review section. This is, again, not considered reliable since it is just a regular person (you or me) stating an opinion as to her voice type. I have again reverted your changes in the article. While I appreciate your efforts and applaud your determination at finding a source (I really do!), as I suggested to another editor on the same quest, you might consider leaving a note with the link on my talk page before making changes to the live article. Just a suggestion though. Huntster ( t@c) 23:48, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Aww poop, lol. I thought it would be realible. I'm trying very hard to find one that is....arrrugh, lol. Thanks very much :} Tribal44 ( talk) 00:23, 24 October 2008 (UTC)Tribal44

Google Books (belated reply)

Just for reference (it is a long time ago, but still): [3] Jayen 466 00:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

(X-Posted) Hmm, very interesting, I've not heard of that before. I'll keep it in mind for next time. Thanks! Huntster ( t@c) 11:48, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
My pleasure. It is disappointing though; it seemed such a good idea for adding value to the cite refs. Cheers, Jayen 466 21:38, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for all the edits you just did to the Questionable Content article--cleaned up a lot of stuff! Just out of curiosity, about the bolding of the "wins" column in the awards received (I don't really mind if they're unbolded, but I'm just wondering), can that be considered a notability issue, rather than NPOV? ie, wins are more notable than nominations and should thus be more prominent? (I suppose one way of answering that would just be to remove all mention of nominations from the article entirely, and only list awards that were won...but then that seems to be basically the same thing, making the wins more prominent than the nominations.)

Thanks, Politizer ( talk) 01:09, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

(X-Posted) Yeah, the bolding issue is something that came up long ago on Wiki, and has stuck around. In a way, it seems pedantic, but then again, it kind of makes sense. In any case, I'd consider nominations equally as notable as wins, because both provide a context into how prominent/influential this strip may be. However, if they are to be in the article, there is no real need to provide unnecessary focus on one thing over another. Huntster ( t@c) 01:28, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
All right, thanks! Politizer ( talk) 01:33, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I've been reading this and laughing my arse off at work (as opposed to actually doing work...) nf utvol ( talk) 18:50, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

ThinkGeek article foul play?

Hey, sorry to bother you again, but I have an admin question for you. I noticed this morning that a user named Geekyguild has been going through Wikipedia deleting all links to and mention of some online retailer called ThinkGeek; I have reverted many of these edits because he was compromising the integrity of the article by deleting URLs without paying attention to the context (breaking {{cite web}} templates, creating nonsense sentences, etc.). I also noticed that the ThinkGeek article has been marked as a candidate for speedy deletion because of (apparently) having been created by members of that retailer's staff to generate traffic for their website.

A few things that seem fishy:

  1. The ThinkGeek article has a decent edit history, having been edited by 79 different users over 5 years (first edit was made in 2003).
  2. Both the user Geekyguild and the user who marked the article for speedy deletion, WIKIGUY_PATROL, are users that only just registered this morning, and haven't made any edits other than these attemps to get rid of everything related to ThinkGeek.

So I was just wondering if you could look into this and see if it's any sort of foul play. (I've also posted this message to User:David Fuchs and User:J Milburn). Thanks! -- Politizer ( talk) 14:25, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I wasn't able to check in on this for a few days, and by then everything appeared to have calmed down. Edits by those two accounts had been reverted and neither have edited since.

Thanks for the help, but I mistyped in my request

Thanks for adding the requested reference ( Talk:Christian_the_lion#Need_to_add_a_reference), but I mistyped. The reference should replace the "citation needed" request at the end of that paragraph. Thanks!

I've also made a request for another reference to be added to that same section of that article. Earthsound ( talk) 05:06, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

In reference to an protected article edit request.

Uluru script edit

Sorry about that. I checked when I ran the script, but was unable to notice anything untoward. I haven't noticed that happen before either. I guess I'll have to pay more attention to my script-assisted edits in future. Thanks for the notification, -- Jor dan Contribs 14:55, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

In reference to a minor automated script error.

Ahem

I have left a note MediaWiki talk:Sp-contributions-search. 211.30.111.105 ( talk) 08:19, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

(X-Posted) Thanks for the heads up...odd behaviour. It has been changed back. Huntster ( t@c) 08:27, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: NSSDC

(X-Posted) Hey, saw your change on Infobox Space station...good thing. However, I'm going to move it to just above Callsign, since the NSSDC is the primary universal identifier for orbital objects. Seems like such an important bit shouldn't be sitting at the bottom of the box. Cheers! Huntster ( t@c) 23:56, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

I wasn't sure where to put it. Thanks for reordering. Wronkiew ( talk) 00:10, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi. You wrote that "High profile templates like this are typically protected as a preventative measure". Yet this template's "twins", {{ African American topics}} and {{ African American topics collapsible sidebar}}, aren't protected and they're rarely vandalized.

{{ Judaism}} and {{ Jews and Judaism sidebar}} are two other "high profile templates" on my watchlist that aren't protected, and they're also rarely vandalized.

I guess I'm writing because I don't understand the rationale behind protecting this one template and not any of the others. Maybe you're not the right person to ask about this. Should I raise this issue at WP:RPP?

Anyway, I hope I'm not being a pest. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz ( talk · contribs) 01:26, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

(X-Posted) Good points. How about I make it semi-protected...it'll keep out most potential vandalism, yet allow for normal editing. Huntster ( t@c) 02:01, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
That sounds good. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz ( talk · contribs) 02:04, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

2008, October Information

Volcanism on Io Peer Review

You recently participated in the peer review of the article, Volcanism on Io. I have made a number of constructive edits to this article as well as several replies to the peer review that I hope address some of the concerns and comments you made in the peer review. I would appreciate it if you could give another once over of the article and the significant edits I have made in the day or so to see if they address some of your concerns. If they have not, can you please provide comments as to how the article can be improved further?

Thanks you, -- Volcanopele ( talk) 01:13, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

And how about it, it became a featured article and was placed on the front page on 10 November 2008.

As noted on my userpage, I was previously User:Orangemonster2k1. I abandoned the name due...let's call it "user difficulties". It isn't a sockpuppet account (no worries there). - NeutralHomerTalkWork • October 3, 2008 @ 22:52 22:52, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

(X-Posted) Gotcha, thanks for the clarification. Huntster ( t@c) 23:22, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
You're Welcome :) - NeutralHomerTalkWork • October 3, 2008 @ 23:36 23:36, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Bug 12796

Hi. Responded on my talk page. -- Boracay Bill ( talk) 12:40, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

William Boyd

William Boyd (musician) was recently moved to Will Boyd. I was a little surprised it was moved after the minimal exchange on the talk page. Do you have any opinion here? Gimmetrow 22:07, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

(X-Posted) I really have no opinion on this...it can be easily argued that he is "commonly" known as Will Boyd, and this name is different enough from the various "William Boyd"s that it shouldn't lead to confusion. I see no conflicts on the disambiguation page. Huntster ( t@c) 22:11, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
Well, William Boyd (writer) is also known as "Will Boyd" [4] I suspect the same could be said for William Boyd (actor), so the (musician) part may be needed. I'm surprised Will Boyd (musician) doesn't exist yet even as a redirect. Gimmetrow 22:22, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
(X-Posted) Well, if you see it as a problem, please do switch it back, using what you just said as a rationale. It is also a perfectly valid, and outweighing, argument. Huntster ( t@c) 22:24, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Deleted redirect

Hi Huntster,

I just wanted to know, why did you delete the redirect H20 just add water? I only ask because I've made quite a few similar redirects to different pages, and didn't know there was any problem with them. I note an editor made that exact error (number zero instead of letter O) in the post above. Adrian J. Hunter( talkcontribs) 07:39, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

(X-Posted) Restored, my mistake. Huntster ( t@c) 08:07, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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2008, September Information

Change to Lightmouse script

Hello, I see you are using User:Lightmouse/monobook.js/script.js developed by Lightmouse ( talk · contribs). This is to let you know that the script commands are now located in the toolbox at bottom left beneath: What links here. If you have any questions or comments please make a note of it at User:Lightmouse/wishlist. Cheers, Cirt ( talk) 07:36, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Amy Lee Song

Sorry about that. You were right. I had downloaded one version and it was a different person but when I re-checked then you were right. I have to get a hold of that. Thanks for correcting that mistake I made in the page. I thought I had verified it but you were right, thanks again. If you respond here put a talkback on my page. businessman332211 ( talk) 21:23, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

(X-Posted) No problem, I was lucky to find that one website that specifically said it was the Amy Lee from Evanescence. Huntster ( t@c) 21:59, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I apologize

I apologize for posting the "message boards" sites for sources. I'm fairly new to posting sources. What is a good realible source to prove Amy Lee's vocal type? Tribal44 ( talk) 19:16, 8 September 2008 (UTC)Tribal44

(X-Posted) Hey there, no need to apologize, it is I who should be for coming across a bit harsh. It has just been an ongoing situation with that page. The problem, is that there doesn't seem to exist any kind of news article or other valid source that states what her vocal type...just fan sites and the like making such statements. The above messages provide some good information regarding citing sources. Cheers, and good luck. I'd love to see a good source stating her voice type, so we all don't have to keep going through this revert cycle, lol. Huntster ( t@c) 23:23, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Its ok. I do not blame you, lol. I've noticed the aritcle as well, even before I joined Wikipedia. You are right about finding sources on her vocal type. There aren't many of them. I searched on google and came up with nothing accept message boards. I couldn't agree more about finding a true source. She has a lovely mezzo-soprano voice. :} Tribal44 ( talk) 19:56, 9 September 2008 (UTC)Tribal44
I found a good source on her vocals on google search!! [1] Yay :} Tribal44 ( talk) 19:07, 11 September 2008
Note: I had reverted from the main article, and the following was written before I could leave a note on editor's talk page.
Well, never mind on that source, lol. I thought it would be a good one. Tribal44 ( talk) 19:41, 11 September 2008 (UTC)Tribal44
(X-Posted) I'm sorry, but I've reverted your addition again. Helium is another user-generated content website, similar to Wikipedia, with the exception that people can use it to self-publish their own material and others cannot edit it. Anyone can sign up and write an article such as that one. In other words, it is not so different from a blog or fansite...it is just someone's opinion. The site may claim to use "peer-review", but it appears to just be a rating system, no different from rating reviews on Amazon or rating sellers on eBay. If I may suggest, if you can find a website or other source that you think may be good for the article, leave a note with the link on my talk page, and I'll check to see if it is acceptable for use on-Wiki. Huntster ( t@c) 19:43, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Its ok. And, will do!! Tribal44 ( talk) 19:45, 11 September 2008 (UTC)Tribal44
Ok, I've found 1 so far. Is it good for the article??
Source 1: Biographical Information
(X-Posted) This is definitely not a reliable site...just something that was put together for "mystic entertainment". Take a look at the bottom of the link you gave me...some of that biographical material was taken straight from the Wikipedia article! hehe. No telling where the rest was pulled from. Huntster ( t@c) 20:00, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Ohhhh, lol. I didn't see that. I've been searching all over google, and came up with nothing. I wonder why there aren't many sources on her vocal range. Thanks for your help with this :} Tribal44 ( talk) 20:07, 11 September 2008 (UTC)Tribal44

Found another source. Is it good enough? [1] Tribal44 ( talk) 17:14, 20 October 2008 (UTC)Tribal44

Found another [2] Tribal44 ( talk) 23:19, 23 October 2008 (UTC)Tribal44

(X-Posted) Regarding the Amazon listing as a source...there is no mention of her voice type anywhere except the customer review section. This is, again, not considered reliable since it is just a regular person (you or me) stating an opinion as to her voice type. I have again reverted your changes in the article. While I appreciate your efforts and applaud your determination at finding a source (I really do!), as I suggested to another editor on the same quest, you might consider leaving a note with the link on my talk page before making changes to the live article. Just a suggestion though. Huntster ( t@c) 23:48, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Aww poop, lol. I thought it would be realible. I'm trying very hard to find one that is....arrrugh, lol. Thanks very much :} Tribal44 ( talk) 00:23, 24 October 2008 (UTC)Tribal44

Google Books (belated reply)

Just for reference (it is a long time ago, but still): [3] Jayen 466 00:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

(X-Posted) Hmm, very interesting, I've not heard of that before. I'll keep it in mind for next time. Thanks! Huntster ( t@c) 11:48, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
My pleasure. It is disappointing though; it seemed such a good idea for adding value to the cite refs. Cheers, Jayen 466 21:38, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for all the edits you just did to the Questionable Content article--cleaned up a lot of stuff! Just out of curiosity, about the bolding of the "wins" column in the awards received (I don't really mind if they're unbolded, but I'm just wondering), can that be considered a notability issue, rather than NPOV? ie, wins are more notable than nominations and should thus be more prominent? (I suppose one way of answering that would just be to remove all mention of nominations from the article entirely, and only list awards that were won...but then that seems to be basically the same thing, making the wins more prominent than the nominations.)

Thanks, Politizer ( talk) 01:09, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

(X-Posted) Yeah, the bolding issue is something that came up long ago on Wiki, and has stuck around. In a way, it seems pedantic, but then again, it kind of makes sense. In any case, I'd consider nominations equally as notable as wins, because both provide a context into how prominent/influential this strip may be. However, if they are to be in the article, there is no real need to provide unnecessary focus on one thing over another. Huntster ( t@c) 01:28, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
All right, thanks! Politizer ( talk) 01:33, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I've been reading this and laughing my arse off at work (as opposed to actually doing work...) nf utvol ( talk) 18:50, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

ThinkGeek article foul play?

Hey, sorry to bother you again, but I have an admin question for you. I noticed this morning that a user named Geekyguild has been going through Wikipedia deleting all links to and mention of some online retailer called ThinkGeek; I have reverted many of these edits because he was compromising the integrity of the article by deleting URLs without paying attention to the context (breaking {{cite web}} templates, creating nonsense sentences, etc.). I also noticed that the ThinkGeek article has been marked as a candidate for speedy deletion because of (apparently) having been created by members of that retailer's staff to generate traffic for their website.

A few things that seem fishy:

  1. The ThinkGeek article has a decent edit history, having been edited by 79 different users over 5 years (first edit was made in 2003).
  2. Both the user Geekyguild and the user who marked the article for speedy deletion, WIKIGUY_PATROL, are users that only just registered this morning, and haven't made any edits other than these attemps to get rid of everything related to ThinkGeek.

So I was just wondering if you could look into this and see if it's any sort of foul play. (I've also posted this message to User:David Fuchs and User:J Milburn). Thanks! -- Politizer ( talk) 14:25, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I wasn't able to check in on this for a few days, and by then everything appeared to have calmed down. Edits by those two accounts had been reverted and neither have edited since.

Thanks for the help, but I mistyped in my request

Thanks for adding the requested reference ( Talk:Christian_the_lion#Need_to_add_a_reference), but I mistyped. The reference should replace the "citation needed" request at the end of that paragraph. Thanks!

I've also made a request for another reference to be added to that same section of that article. Earthsound ( talk) 05:06, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

In reference to an protected article edit request.

Uluru script edit

Sorry about that. I checked when I ran the script, but was unable to notice anything untoward. I haven't noticed that happen before either. I guess I'll have to pay more attention to my script-assisted edits in future. Thanks for the notification, -- Jor dan Contribs 14:55, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

In reference to a minor automated script error.

Ahem

I have left a note MediaWiki talk:Sp-contributions-search. 211.30.111.105 ( talk) 08:19, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

(X-Posted) Thanks for the heads up...odd behaviour. It has been changed back. Huntster ( t@c) 08:27, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: NSSDC

(X-Posted) Hey, saw your change on Infobox Space station...good thing. However, I'm going to move it to just above Callsign, since the NSSDC is the primary universal identifier for orbital objects. Seems like such an important bit shouldn't be sitting at the bottom of the box. Cheers! Huntster ( t@c) 23:56, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

I wasn't sure where to put it. Thanks for reordering. Wronkiew ( talk) 00:10, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi. You wrote that "High profile templates like this are typically protected as a preventative measure". Yet this template's "twins", {{ African American topics}} and {{ African American topics collapsible sidebar}}, aren't protected and they're rarely vandalized.

{{ Judaism}} and {{ Jews and Judaism sidebar}} are two other "high profile templates" on my watchlist that aren't protected, and they're also rarely vandalized.

I guess I'm writing because I don't understand the rationale behind protecting this one template and not any of the others. Maybe you're not the right person to ask about this. Should I raise this issue at WP:RPP?

Anyway, I hope I'm not being a pest. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz ( talk · contribs) 01:26, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

(X-Posted) Good points. How about I make it semi-protected...it'll keep out most potential vandalism, yet allow for normal editing. Huntster ( t@c) 02:01, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
That sounds good. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz ( talk · contribs) 02:04, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

2008, October Information

Volcanism on Io Peer Review

You recently participated in the peer review of the article, Volcanism on Io. I have made a number of constructive edits to this article as well as several replies to the peer review that I hope address some of the concerns and comments you made in the peer review. I would appreciate it if you could give another once over of the article and the significant edits I have made in the day or so to see if they address some of your concerns. If they have not, can you please provide comments as to how the article can be improved further?

Thanks you, -- Volcanopele ( talk) 01:13, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

And how about it, it became a featured article and was placed on the front page on 10 November 2008.

As noted on my userpage, I was previously User:Orangemonster2k1. I abandoned the name due...let's call it "user difficulties". It isn't a sockpuppet account (no worries there). - NeutralHomerTalkWork • October 3, 2008 @ 22:52 22:52, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

(X-Posted) Gotcha, thanks for the clarification. Huntster ( t@c) 23:22, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
You're Welcome :) - NeutralHomerTalkWork • October 3, 2008 @ 23:36 23:36, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Bug 12796

Hi. Responded on my talk page. -- Boracay Bill ( talk) 12:40, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

William Boyd

William Boyd (musician) was recently moved to Will Boyd. I was a little surprised it was moved after the minimal exchange on the talk page. Do you have any opinion here? Gimmetrow 22:07, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

(X-Posted) I really have no opinion on this...it can be easily argued that he is "commonly" known as Will Boyd, and this name is different enough from the various "William Boyd"s that it shouldn't lead to confusion. I see no conflicts on the disambiguation page. Huntster ( t@c) 22:11, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
Well, William Boyd (writer) is also known as "Will Boyd" [4] I suspect the same could be said for William Boyd (actor), so the (musician) part may be needed. I'm surprised Will Boyd (musician) doesn't exist yet even as a redirect. Gimmetrow 22:22, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
(X-Posted) Well, if you see it as a problem, please do switch it back, using what you just said as a rationale. It is also a perfectly valid, and outweighing, argument. Huntster ( t@c) 22:24, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Deleted redirect

Hi Huntster,

I just wanted to know, why did you delete the redirect H20 just add water? I only ask because I've made quite a few similar redirects to different pages, and didn't know there was any problem with them. I note an editor made that exact error (number zero instead of letter O) in the post above. Adrian J. Hunter( talkcontribs) 07:39, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

(X-Posted) Restored, my mistake. Huntster ( t@c) 08:07, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

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