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Why did you mark it for Deletion? - the notice has been removed

Contrary to what you said, it does not duplicate some "List of British heritage and private railways", nor the links from the Ffestiniog Railway page itself.

The FR, and associated railways have a number of files on main wiki, and a lot on Wikimedia Commons, and its own seperate wiki. This page is purely to act as an index to the relevant pages. It does not go to individual engines, station or carriages, but due to the complex nature, the 18 files it does link are all directly related.

Some of these files have actuall been updated to use the index instead of multiple entries.

-- Keith 23:53, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Rather than gather and post information as an index or list, I would suggest using the same navbox template scheme already established on the article (assessed as Good since 2005) by the project team, exampled below. Have you discussed your indexing and list with the the project members? If you insist on producing a list, here are guidelines and suggestions. I would also suggest posting a list assessment template on the talk page for others to review. Let me know if you have any questions. Regards.  Geaugagrrl   ☎ 02:46, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Just a question about your reference - does it actually use the term "Desert of Wales"? When I tagged the article I was questioning the widespread use of the term itself, rather than the absence of refs from particular statements. Regards, Ghmyrtle ( talk) 14:54, 9 November 2008 (UTC) Ignore that - I've found enough references elsewhere. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 16:28, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi Ghmyrtle. I have been meaning to add a reference or two, but just now got around to it. First time I read the stub I went looking about to verify authenticity since it seemed to be widely referenced on Wikipedia. Just added a bit more to the article with reference. Thanks for writing & cheers.  Geaugagrrl   ☎ 01:04, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Hey Geaugagrrl! I think it would be better if you didn't chance the references. I did a lot of work finding them, and putting quotes and pagenumbers. It's actually pretty usefull if somebody needs them. I would really like them back. I have seen alot of other articles with similar quotations. It doesn't matter if the ref list gets long.-- MortenKristensen ( talk) 11:50, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi MortenKristensen. Thanks again for all your hard work on the sandbox article. The information you provided was great but could we see about organizing the footnotes(with quotes) and reference section like this article? Do you want me to revert the ref. consolidation edits I made so you can grab copies of the text to be reworked? Notepad works great for saving offline work *grins*  Geaugagrrl   ☎ 17:36, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry if i'm not into all the procedures on the eng wikipedia! I like the way the Joyce article works. You're more into how you do things here, so i'm not sure wat is 'right', but i would (peronally) prefer to do the Mars Hill-article (somehow) with atleast some of the quotes. It's just to prevent anyone to think that i'm making it up. And sorry for my spelling and syntax - english is not my mother tounge... But it's fun to help. I think I will continue working on the article after we move it to the right location. I was wondering if it's possible to find some pictures for the article? I searched Flickr, but I couldn't find anything without copyright, and obviously I can not take any photos my self, because I live in Europe. Cool to colaborate!-- MortenKristensen ( talk) 21:58, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi Morten and thanks for all your great thoughts! I think your idea of including quotes in the footnotes is great, just organize them like how they are "coded" in the Joyce article. See footnote 35 as an example of a quoted text from a book, and see how the book is sourced under reference as: Hopper, Keith, Flann O'Brien: A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Post-Modernist, Cork University Press (May 1995). ISBN  1-85918-042-6.

Before on Mars Hill, the same book was fully cited in each <ref> tag with each quote--too much to look at. It is a much simpler process the way it is done in the Joyce article. Let me know if this makes sense? Quote away, but let's do it in a cleaner fashion. So welcome to en.wikipedia! So what is your mother tongue? Don't worry about spelling errors. There are days when I can barely spell hat even if you gave me the H. I want to move the sandbox article to mainspace once the footnotes and reference section are reworked. We have waited long enough for comment. As far as pictures, we should write to the church for images. I can or do you want to? Let me know. Bye for now.  Geaugagrrl   ☎ 05:33, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I did the notes and moved the page, and just tell me if there is something wrong. I'm not into commons, pictures and copyright, so it would really be a help if you know something about how to do. The church has a press room. I don't know if you can use the pictures on the site, they say you can use them if you credit the church. Maybe it is also possible to include the logo like this.-- MortenKristensen ( talk) 14:24, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

On 12 November, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Banc Ty'nddôl sun-disc, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Congratulations! : )
-- Badgernet ^Talk 17:39, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

A perfectly delightful article, my dear. (What a strange name you have. I shall not even attempt to pronounce it, much like the name of your article. Where did you get your name? Did your father's dentures not fit correctly, perchance, and the vicar mis-hear him at your christening?) I have made an addition and a few small amendments. Your golden trinket is quite lovely. It is most unseemly to brag, but mine is somewhat superior, I venture. Good evening to you, my dear. My man has arrived with my evening corpse reviver and so more pressing matters are at hand.

Princess Venetia di Cannoli ( talk) 17:42, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Principessa, I am so glad you enjoyed the article and many thanks for the contributions. I had no idea the category existed. The cape is truly extraordinary! As to my username, it is a tribute to:

• my four year sentence in Geauga, County, Ohio (near Chagrin Falls to be exact) and is pronounced: gee-aw-ga.
• my work in Web design since 1995-ish when women in technology were rare as hen's teeth and referred to themselves as "grrls," rhythms with: girl. (See Webgrrls)

Your nice note has been a lovely tidbit to add to the combined birthday celebration today for my husband and myself. Champagne, jumbo prawns and dark chocolate await. Do you prefer Boodles? I prefer mine with a breath of Vermouth, up with a twist. Best wishes to you kind lady.  Geaugagrrl   ☎ 01:59, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

A sentence in America? Are you a convicted felon? I am not sure it is seemly to have further intercourse with you, if this is the case, as one of my standing should not disport with criminals (though Reggie did have a rather rough charm). And I see you are one of the poor unfortunates who has to work for a living. Did your Papa not settle a good enough amount on you? And as for my taste in gin, it is strictly Hendrick's; Tanqueray if I absolutely must. I have trained my man to mix the perfect drink: in the words of my darling Mama, "Damn it man, just show it the tonic." I am not sure what is meant by "up with a twist": are you one of our transatlantic cousins, perchance?

My congratulations on your birthday celebrations, though one rather hopes you did not partake of the Champagne, seafood and dark chocolate all at the same time. But one never knows, these days. People eat the dashedest things, it seems.

Princess Venetia di Cannoli ( talk) 09:24, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

No worries Princess, no criminal element association on my part. My sentence refers to the virtually intolerant weather, year round, of the Western Reserve. Shortly after arriving it seemed as though I had landed in weather Hell: hotter than Hell, colder than Hell, snowier than Hell, windier than Hell-you get the idea. I was glad to escape and return to my native habitat. There are a few things I miss about my time in this part of our country, but the weather is not one of them. I am in fact a transatlantic cousin, hence the collision of our colloquialisms. My great grandfather immigrated from Ceredigion, Llanfihangel y Creuddyn parish. A number of my relations were baptized at Saint Michael's Hafod chapel, built by Colonel Thomas Johnes. So there you have it dear Princess, a bit more about me. So where is your humble abode located, where you practice the fine pursuit of leisure, and your man judiciously doles out the corpse reviver? Good evening to you.

 Geaugagrrl   ☎ 03:55, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh...this sounds delightful!

Hendrick’s is an iconoclastically produced small batch gin distilled in Ayrshire, Scotland. Our unusual distillation process combined with our oddly delicious set of infusions yields a one-of-a-kind gin that is passionately loved by a tiny yet growing handful of individuals all over the world. No other gin tastes like it because no other gin is made like it.

Cheers!  Geaugagrrl   ☎ 04:00, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

On 13 November, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Banc Ty'nddôl sun-disc, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass ( talk) 00:59, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I restored the refimprove template, because the article has only one cite note. I don't think that's really adequate for WP:V. If that single book by R.R. Davies is the source of multiple claims, you can cite the same reference a number of times with (ref name="Davies"/) Davies, R. R., The Age of Conquest: Wales 1063-1415 (Oxford 1987, 2000 edition), pp. 271-88.(/ref) in the first citation, then (ref name="Davies"/) for later notes (change the brackets though). Apologies if you already know how to do this - I don't want to be patronising. Pondle ( talk) 10:53, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Just a note in support of Pondle's view. The article needs a lot of work and it's on my "to do" list for some future date, but if we can all work together to make improvements it would be great. Have you seen this book by the way? (and no, I'm not on commission!) Regards, Ghmyrtle ( talk) 11:32, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Greetings to you both and thanks for writing. I completely agree that the article needs work. Would a cite tag be more appropriate?

Ghmyrtle, I have not read this book, but will add it to my should-acquire list. Looks marvelous. Maybe it will arrive in my Christmas stocking. I am currently wading my way through this tome, but the other issue is the price of books from the UK. Mr. Morgan's book alone cost $65USD thanks to the exchange rate and delivery(ouch) so I try to pace my purchases. I did manage to grab a first edition print of "Peacocks in Paradise" (1950) that included two hand-written notes between the original owner and Ms. Inglis-Jones.

So, should the article be left where it lives, or moved to a sandbox location? Best regards.  Geaugagrrl   ☎ 18:31, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Why is this here ... {{citations missing}} ...? But anyway, I think the article as it is is OK for the time being, it just needs more work and more references. I mentioned on the talk page that it might be a good idea to use this article for "the Marches" as a loose general geographical term, and for there to be a separate article on "The March" as a specific political term for the areas governed by the Marcher lords between 1066(ish) and 1535 - but I'm not so sure now, it might be too much information (but on the other hand there is this as an example of what can be done given sufficient time and dedication...) What do you think? Ghmyrtle ( talk) 23:25, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I agree with Ghmyrtle's point. 'Welsh Marches' (relatively modern geographical term) and 'The March' are two different entities (the latter extended from modern Denbighshire along the borders and through south Wales to Pembrokeshire). Perhaps a sub-section in the Welsh Marches article, noting the difference and giving a concise outline (Ye Gods, it's a complicated history!) would be enough for now? Enaidmawr ( talk) 00:06, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

As there are a few references, and only one cite, I was suggesting that the improvement template be switched to "citation improvement". All the suggestions/plans above sound good. Bye for now.  Geaugagrrl   ☎ 00:47, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Hello Geaugagrrll, sut mae? Suffering from a fit of curiosity/boredom, I took a look through the Ceredigion geo stubs category just now and found two near identical articles on Cwm Ystwyth/ Cwmystwyth. Sure it's just an oversight on your behalf, but obviously it needs fixing. As you are the principle author I thought I'd let you decide which one stays and which gets redirected. Cofion/Regards, Enaidmawr ( talk) 01:05, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Aloha Enaidmawr, comment allez-vous? All is grand except my main laptop died, so I am on the hunt for a replacement. I might be slow in the responses until next week. Thanks so much for writing and spotting my difficulty with this article that should be one. This is a prime example of my geographic distance from Cmyru getting the best of moi. I created the article, then moved it thinking it was incorrect, then moved it back. I am nearly dizzy from thinking about it. I will depend on your better judgment on which is correct? And how to fix and thanks? Bye for now.  Geaugagrrl   ☎ 02:38, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

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