The result of someone going to RFI should not be that they decide to stop editing the article because of disruptive editing. [1] — Centrx→ talk • 17:45, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
No IPs are not blocked indefinitely unless it is an open proxy, and even that is not a permanent case. Most people have connections such that if they disconnect and reconnect they will be assigned a new IP. Even IPs where this not the case are re-assigned from time to time and would generally never warrant blocking for more than a year. Any time you block an IP indefinitely, it means that many people will not be able to edit and that some other admin is going to have to deal with it and unblock it. — Centrx→ talk • 18:28, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
How can I archive some comments on my talk page? Lieutenant Dol Grenn 23:09, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Durova, I have rewritten what I believe is a very neutral, organized and well researched article on the Midnight Syndicate topic, and just a few hours later it was reverted again by the same previous users that had been blocked before. I have given my reasons and all references on the talk page, while the other users have not provided valid reasons for reverting to an inacurate history and self-promotional version of the article. Plus they keep making personal attacks, and though slight digs now, it may escalate as in the past. I really need another unbiased viewpoint on this. Thank you. Oroboros 1 02:42, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello there. You might want to know that I responded to your comment before mine was removed by someone. // Halibu tt 22:40, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Durova, I don't think we've ever meet on en.wiki, but I happen to have Halibutt's talk page in my watchlist. I've read the warning you've just posted there and can't believe my eyes. Are You, an Administrator, threatening a user with a block for discussing with you in your talkpage ?!! I hope I misunderstood the situation. -- Lysy talk 18:23, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Of course you'll have more intimate insight into the situation than I do. I've not traced back all the interaction of you and Halibutt. But the block threat struck me as a strange way to handle the situation. Normally if a user is harassed or simply does not wish to continue the discussion in his talk page, he'd ask the other party to go away from his userspace and that should suffice. No, if this is an administrator, should he support it with block threats ? I appreciate you asking at WP:AN and I'll leave it to be answered there. (I also appreciate your "softie" reputation and hope you'll prefer to keep it that way :-) ) -- Lysy talk 07:18, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't consider the subject very controversial, that's just weird blocking editing of it.-- Mastne 23:49, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
In the John Kerry article re 'botched joke controversy'
[3]. You can vote too :) Zarbat 11:00, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Is there a way to advertize to get outside comments on these polls? Can I do an RFC? Zarbat 08:24, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Tnx for your input - advice taken. It looks as though we may have reached an acceptable compromise (i.e. everyone's unhappy now ;) Tomandlu 14:26, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello ! I guess you'll be busier than ever now that you're (deservedly) an admin. Just a quick note to say that we have a newish editor who changed the first sentence of Joan of Arc to begin Saint Joan of Arc ... . If I remember rightly, you noticed that this seemed to have caused problems (i.e. in the visions section). Anyway, I've put it back the way it was. All the best ! Angus McLellan (Talk) 00:09, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your kind award. It's all the more meaningful coming from you! -- Ghirla -трёп- 10:06, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello Durova.
Following your kindly request I have launched a new iniciative to try to arrive to something in the Madrid Bombings article. I hope that everybody will act also constructively. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:11_March_2004_Madrid_train_bombings#Let.27s_use_an_accepted_model -- Igor21 13:10, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Welcome, Durova, to Esperanza! As you might know, all the Esperanzians share one important goal: the success of this encyclopedia. Within that, we then attempt to strengthen the community bonds, and be the "approachable" side of the project. All of our ideals are held in the Charter, the governing document of the association.
Now that you are a member you should read the guide to what to do now or you may be interested in some of our programs. A quite important program is Stressbusters, which seeks to support editors who have encountered any stress from their Wikipedia events, and are seeking to leave the project. So far, Esperanza can be credited with the support and retention of several users. We will send you newsletters to keep you up to date. Also, we have a calendar of special events, member birthdays, and other holidays that you can add to and follow.
In addition to these projects, several more missions of Esperanza are in development, and are currently being created at Esperanza/Proposals.
If you have any other questions, concerns, comments, or general ideas, Esperanzian or otherwise, know that you can always contact our administrator general Natalya by email or talk page. Consider introducing yourself at the Esperanza talk page! Alternatively, you could communicate with fellow users via our IRC channel, #wikipedia-esperanza (which is also good for a fun chat or two :). If you're new to IRC, you may find help at an IRC tutorial. I thank you for joining Esperanza, and look forward to working with you in making Wikipedia a better place to work!
I've tried to get rid of the worst problems on this page, but having someone with a better eye and more knowledge of Puerto Rican politics would be great.
Thanks,
Ed Unneland
I'm intrigued by your proactive approach to contacting schools; it sounds like a great opportunity to turn a negative into a positive. I'm interested in pursuing it, especially since I tend to have a good rapport with educators, but I'm a little squeamish about the cold-calling aspect of it. I'm just a volunteer here with no status or connection to anything "official". Is it really ok for me to just pick up the phone and say "Hi, I'm Doc T. and I'd like to talk to you about Wikipedia..."? I'm sure I could phrase it so I don't sound like a Bible salesman, but you see my point? BTW - I'm not aware that anyone ever ran my stats before; it's nice to be noticed :) -- Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 09:36, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks to both Durova and FreplySpang I found the button and called off the Snipe hunt. -- Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 21:59, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
This case is now closed and the results have been published at the link above.
The anonymous Gundagai editor is banned from editing Wikipedia for one year. All blocks to be logged at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Gundagai editors#Log_of_blocks_and_bans.
For the Arbitration Committee -- Srik e it ( Talk | Email) 18:08, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Why what way? I've put my cards on the table, full disclosure, WYSIWYG!
I'm just curious to see if people respond to that, or if it really is what I think it is: adminship not as a key to the toolshed, but as something else entirely.
Honestly I'm more invested in the process than I am in the result... I might perform maybe 5 to 10 (ok, maybe 20 to 30) sysop chores a day if I'm "elected", which is of course a drop in the bucket, but I really think adminship should be about adding drops to the bucket, not accepting a huge responsibility. We have 8 (EIGHT!) active admins on wikibooks. We're all so overburdened that we just shrug off the backlogs. I've been actively campaigning to get more admins, because even if they only used the tools once a day, at least it would be one less thing I had to do. The wikipedian community seems to be misinterpreting the whole thing... it's really about giving someone keys to the janitor's closet, not approving a member of the local junta.
I am completely overqualified to be a "newbie" admin. My "sin" on the RfA is full disclosure. If I was more determined, I'd disclose less, but is that really how it should be? -- SB_Johnny| talk| books 21:34, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm trying to get sysopped... just doing it in my own way, as I do most things :). To be honest, I'm not great at straightforward explanations. If you want to support me, interrogate me, because I tend to know better what people want to know when I'm faced with frank, direct questioning. This whole conversation whould probably be there, not here. -- SB_Johnny| talk| books 00:28, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello! I have listen your wise advise and asked an comment for Halibutt`s behavior. Have a good time. M.K. 23:58, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your help. I'm not sure if there is something I should do as part of reconciliation?
Hello. While fixing links to the Soviet Republic disambiguation page, I ran across one in the locked Republic article. Would it be possible for you to go to Republic#Republics reducing state religion impact and change the Soviet Republic link to Soviet Republic? Once the link in Republic is fixed, all of the links to this dab page will have been corrected. Thanks! -- Kralizec! ( talk) 17:45, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
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Hi, an AfD nomination I started ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2006_October_30#Frot) recently ended and I can't find the editor who gave the decision ( User:Maxberners) on the list of administrators, I know non-administrators are allowed to do this in some cases, but I don't really don't think this was an unambiguous "Keep", I didn't want to raise the issue on the admin. board because it wasn't exactly vandalism and I wasn't quite sure if this was the correct procedure or not in this case, then I saw that you were active on the admin board. Could you look into this please? Onhm 02:59, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
To what does this refer? I'm honestly confused.
It really looks like you cross posted to WP:RFI in good faith, so please take this as a friendly tip rather than a warning: it's better to post a page diff from the edit history or introduce a quotation and use italics if you really feel the need to cut and paste. Emulating another editor's signature is bad form, and an administrator's signature is dangerous territory. Another user (who was in a very different position from your own) when from a one week block to a site ban for impersonating an administrator the other day. I don't think anyone will misinterpret the particular cross post you did, but don't make it a habit.
Argyriou (talk) 02:59, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
I was just clicking the Random article link when it took me to this page: Web 3.0. Is it a glitch or is it normal for protected pages to show up via Special:Random? - WarthogDemon 04:48, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
The result of someone going to RFI should not be that they decide to stop editing the article because of disruptive editing. [1] — Centrx→ talk • 17:45, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
No IPs are not blocked indefinitely unless it is an open proxy, and even that is not a permanent case. Most people have connections such that if they disconnect and reconnect they will be assigned a new IP. Even IPs where this not the case are re-assigned from time to time and would generally never warrant blocking for more than a year. Any time you block an IP indefinitely, it means that many people will not be able to edit and that some other admin is going to have to deal with it and unblock it. — Centrx→ talk • 18:28, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
How can I archive some comments on my talk page? Lieutenant Dol Grenn 23:09, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Durova, I have rewritten what I believe is a very neutral, organized and well researched article on the Midnight Syndicate topic, and just a few hours later it was reverted again by the same previous users that had been blocked before. I have given my reasons and all references on the talk page, while the other users have not provided valid reasons for reverting to an inacurate history and self-promotional version of the article. Plus they keep making personal attacks, and though slight digs now, it may escalate as in the past. I really need another unbiased viewpoint on this. Thank you. Oroboros 1 02:42, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello there. You might want to know that I responded to your comment before mine was removed by someone. // Halibu tt 22:40, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Durova, I don't think we've ever meet on en.wiki, but I happen to have Halibutt's talk page in my watchlist. I've read the warning you've just posted there and can't believe my eyes. Are You, an Administrator, threatening a user with a block for discussing with you in your talkpage ?!! I hope I misunderstood the situation. -- Lysy talk 18:23, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Of course you'll have more intimate insight into the situation than I do. I've not traced back all the interaction of you and Halibutt. But the block threat struck me as a strange way to handle the situation. Normally if a user is harassed or simply does not wish to continue the discussion in his talk page, he'd ask the other party to go away from his userspace and that should suffice. No, if this is an administrator, should he support it with block threats ? I appreciate you asking at WP:AN and I'll leave it to be answered there. (I also appreciate your "softie" reputation and hope you'll prefer to keep it that way :-) ) -- Lysy talk 07:18, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't consider the subject very controversial, that's just weird blocking editing of it.-- Mastne 23:49, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
In the John Kerry article re 'botched joke controversy'
[3]. You can vote too :) Zarbat 11:00, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Is there a way to advertize to get outside comments on these polls? Can I do an RFC? Zarbat 08:24, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Tnx for your input - advice taken. It looks as though we may have reached an acceptable compromise (i.e. everyone's unhappy now ;) Tomandlu 14:26, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello ! I guess you'll be busier than ever now that you're (deservedly) an admin. Just a quick note to say that we have a newish editor who changed the first sentence of Joan of Arc to begin Saint Joan of Arc ... . If I remember rightly, you noticed that this seemed to have caused problems (i.e. in the visions section). Anyway, I've put it back the way it was. All the best ! Angus McLellan (Talk) 00:09, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your kind award. It's all the more meaningful coming from you! -- Ghirla -трёп- 10:06, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello Durova.
Following your kindly request I have launched a new iniciative to try to arrive to something in the Madrid Bombings article. I hope that everybody will act also constructively. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:11_March_2004_Madrid_train_bombings#Let.27s_use_an_accepted_model -- Igor21 13:10, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Welcome, Durova, to Esperanza! As you might know, all the Esperanzians share one important goal: the success of this encyclopedia. Within that, we then attempt to strengthen the community bonds, and be the "approachable" side of the project. All of our ideals are held in the Charter, the governing document of the association.
Now that you are a member you should read the guide to what to do now or you may be interested in some of our programs. A quite important program is Stressbusters, which seeks to support editors who have encountered any stress from their Wikipedia events, and are seeking to leave the project. So far, Esperanza can be credited with the support and retention of several users. We will send you newsletters to keep you up to date. Also, we have a calendar of special events, member birthdays, and other holidays that you can add to and follow.
In addition to these projects, several more missions of Esperanza are in development, and are currently being created at Esperanza/Proposals.
If you have any other questions, concerns, comments, or general ideas, Esperanzian or otherwise, know that you can always contact our administrator general Natalya by email or talk page. Consider introducing yourself at the Esperanza talk page! Alternatively, you could communicate with fellow users via our IRC channel, #wikipedia-esperanza (which is also good for a fun chat or two :). If you're new to IRC, you may find help at an IRC tutorial. I thank you for joining Esperanza, and look forward to working with you in making Wikipedia a better place to work!
I've tried to get rid of the worst problems on this page, but having someone with a better eye and more knowledge of Puerto Rican politics would be great.
Thanks,
Ed Unneland
I'm intrigued by your proactive approach to contacting schools; it sounds like a great opportunity to turn a negative into a positive. I'm interested in pursuing it, especially since I tend to have a good rapport with educators, but I'm a little squeamish about the cold-calling aspect of it. I'm just a volunteer here with no status or connection to anything "official". Is it really ok for me to just pick up the phone and say "Hi, I'm Doc T. and I'd like to talk to you about Wikipedia..."? I'm sure I could phrase it so I don't sound like a Bible salesman, but you see my point? BTW - I'm not aware that anyone ever ran my stats before; it's nice to be noticed :) -- Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 09:36, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks to both Durova and FreplySpang I found the button and called off the Snipe hunt. -- Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 21:59, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
This case is now closed and the results have been published at the link above.
The anonymous Gundagai editor is banned from editing Wikipedia for one year. All blocks to be logged at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Gundagai editors#Log_of_blocks_and_bans.
For the Arbitration Committee -- Srik e it ( Talk | Email) 18:08, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Why what way? I've put my cards on the table, full disclosure, WYSIWYG!
I'm just curious to see if people respond to that, or if it really is what I think it is: adminship not as a key to the toolshed, but as something else entirely.
Honestly I'm more invested in the process than I am in the result... I might perform maybe 5 to 10 (ok, maybe 20 to 30) sysop chores a day if I'm "elected", which is of course a drop in the bucket, but I really think adminship should be about adding drops to the bucket, not accepting a huge responsibility. We have 8 (EIGHT!) active admins on wikibooks. We're all so overburdened that we just shrug off the backlogs. I've been actively campaigning to get more admins, because even if they only used the tools once a day, at least it would be one less thing I had to do. The wikipedian community seems to be misinterpreting the whole thing... it's really about giving someone keys to the janitor's closet, not approving a member of the local junta.
I am completely overqualified to be a "newbie" admin. My "sin" on the RfA is full disclosure. If I was more determined, I'd disclose less, but is that really how it should be? -- SB_Johnny| talk| books 21:34, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm trying to get sysopped... just doing it in my own way, as I do most things :). To be honest, I'm not great at straightforward explanations. If you want to support me, interrogate me, because I tend to know better what people want to know when I'm faced with frank, direct questioning. This whole conversation whould probably be there, not here. -- SB_Johnny| talk| books 00:28, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello! I have listen your wise advise and asked an comment for Halibutt`s behavior. Have a good time. M.K. 23:58, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your help. I'm not sure if there is something I should do as part of reconciliation?
Hello. While fixing links to the Soviet Republic disambiguation page, I ran across one in the locked Republic article. Would it be possible for you to go to Republic#Republics reducing state religion impact and change the Soviet Republic link to Soviet Republic? Once the link in Republic is fixed, all of the links to this dab page will have been corrected. Thanks! -- Kralizec! ( talk) 17:45, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
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Hi, an AfD nomination I started ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2006_October_30#Frot) recently ended and I can't find the editor who gave the decision ( User:Maxberners) on the list of administrators, I know non-administrators are allowed to do this in some cases, but I don't really don't think this was an unambiguous "Keep", I didn't want to raise the issue on the admin. board because it wasn't exactly vandalism and I wasn't quite sure if this was the correct procedure or not in this case, then I saw that you were active on the admin board. Could you look into this please? Onhm 02:59, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
To what does this refer? I'm honestly confused.
It really looks like you cross posted to WP:RFI in good faith, so please take this as a friendly tip rather than a warning: it's better to post a page diff from the edit history or introduce a quotation and use italics if you really feel the need to cut and paste. Emulating another editor's signature is bad form, and an administrator's signature is dangerous territory. Another user (who was in a very different position from your own) when from a one week block to a site ban for impersonating an administrator the other day. I don't think anyone will misinterpret the particular cross post you did, but don't make it a habit.
Argyriou (talk) 02:59, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
I was just clicking the Random article link when it took me to this page: Web 3.0. Is it a glitch or is it normal for protected pages to show up via Special:Random? - WarthogDemon 04:48, 6 November 2006 (UTC)