You're ready to be an admin. Anyone watching this page, please agree now. Syn ergy 21:48, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Durova never wasn't ready. She made a mistake. Actually a mistake far less serious than mistakes routinely made by many administrators. often with no consequence at all. She resigned rather than allow disruption to be created, something which should be far more common (with, then, less disruptive process to request that she return). My guess is that most of what she wants to do, she does not need an admin bit. Obviously, I would fully support any RfA for her, but my opinion is that she never did deserve removal of the bit, that the community lost by its loss, and, while the bit was removed "under a cloud" and thus not restorable except by ArbComm action upon her request (I'd assume) or by a new RfA, I would not recommend that she apply. If someone else wants to make the request on her behalf, she would then decide whether or not to accept this and allow the discussion to continue, but I'd also recommend to her that she not participate on the RfAr page, beyond minimal response to questions, if even that. (I.e., "want to ask me a question, ask me on my Talk.") She should not have to go through any disruptive or difficult process to get her bit back, if she even would accept it. -- Abd ( talk) 17:56, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Can you upload a PNG of your version of this? I think I might like to work on the uncropped, if you have one saved at that point - no reason not to provide two options, and it's not a significant amount of extra work. I think your choice is an excellent choice for on Wikipedia, but if I'm going to put a lot of time into it, may as well throw in a version that might be prefered in other contexts.
Wish this wasn't black and white, though. For this kind of engraving, colour does make the finer lines look a bit better. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 16:13, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
File:John_Paul_Jones2.png Durova Charge! 16:21, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
132.62.88.94 seems to be vandalizing John Paul Jones on a pretty regular basis, I was wondering if you wouldn't mind getting someone to block him again. DrAlbertOxfordPhD ( talk) 20:42, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
I put the warning up, but it's the fifth one on their talk page. I doubt this is going to get them to stop. DrAlbertOxfordPhD ( talk) 21:33, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
SA seems to be creating disruption deliberately. Please see my comment at Jehochman talk, which is not an invitation to you to respond there! That comment refers to two AE reports that show cooperation between SA and Hipocrite; SA makes a spelling correction to an article covered by the topic ban, Hipocrite -- who considers the ban ridiculous -- reverts it and reports it formally to AE. On Jehochman Talk, I suggest a solution that respects both the WP:IAR stated intention of SA and the needs of Arbitration enforcement. That is, if SA makes a trivial correction to an article, not controversial, he should immediately revert himself, thus leaving behind no net edit, but calling attention to the spelling error, and making it a matter of seconds for anyone else, usually, to fix it, just revert his self-reversion. This is much more efficient than proposing an edit on Talk. And if he once in a while fails to revert himself, nobody is going to block him over a spelling correction; the problem is that if he's making many such corrections, AE becomes much more complicated and this toe over the line could creep. If he reverts himself, no problem at all, no disruption, unless the edits become truly controversial, in which case ordinary AE can deal with it as disruptive.
Note that if SA were blocked, he'd not be able to make these spelling corrections except perhaps as IP. Spelling corrections don't carry a signature of the editor, and even when blocked editors are ID'd as socks, sometimes all their contributions are more or less automatically reverted, including spelling corrections. I have, on occasion, tracked these edits and reverted the block-reversions. Anyone who wants to help both the project and SA could, then, just watch his contributions, taking very little time. But if that was used to circumvent the ban, (i.e., SA makes controversial edit, reverts self, and then supporting editor shows up and without discussion and consensus in Talk, reverts it back in) it would be meat puppetry and itself sanctionable.
I'm hoping that your advice to SA will be more effective than if I were the one to make the suggestion to him. -- Abd ( talk) 17:48, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) This is part of why I was so disappointed in the Arbitration Committee. Before the case opened I began mentoring SA, and still am. There was no quid pro quo implied or intended, and I explicitly told the Committee both before the case opened and when the proposed decision went up that I had no intention of politicizing the mentorship by using it as any sort of leverage in terms of potential sanctions. I declined the offer they were making before it went up, and was surprised to see it both go live and pass under the same name (but a fundamentally different concept) from what I was doing. I was never bound by it. They simply took it into their heads to wish that someone would fill a role they envisioned, and they chose (very foolishly IMO) to call their phantom position by the same name as what I was doing.
The result is that you--a hardworking Wikipedian doing your best to help--are getting the mistaken impression that somehow I haven't done things correctly. Rest assured that I have. If you read over the talk page of the original case request, you'll see my announcement and disclaimer. The talk page of the proposed decision has my reactions (at first stunned, then increasingly incensed), and the archives of the Arbitration Committee announcement board talk page contains my threat to resign from all mentorships in protest against the Committee's action.
For the foreseeable future, if I take on any new mentorships I intend to keep them out of the Committee's eye. This isn't the first time their attempts at interference have wasted my time and undermined my work in this area. Durova Charge! 23:07, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi Durova,
Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Arctic eclipse.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on March 8, 2009. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2009-03-08. howcheng { chat} 18:28, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Your
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Durova, I've closed Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/John Paul Jones as not promoted. Feel free to relist once you have finished. I hope you understand. Thanks, Spencer T♦ C 17:14, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
The nomination for that picture appears to have been transcluded twice. You might want to check WP:FPC. ErikTheBikeMan ( talk) 20:18, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
Useful question/comment for considering, that the orphan tags might be driving users away, rather than bringing them in. Look at this for instance: Praxis porphyretica. The tag overwhelms the article. This was my original concern, that the tag overwhelms the article detracting from its usefulness, plus the temptation to inappropriately deorphan articles by adding spurious links that don't increase the value of the information to the reader. -- KP Botany ( talk) 21:29, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
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Please ask Zahakiel to stop vandalizing my user page. -- e.Shubee ( talk) 05:20, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
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Wait, really? Why on earth would you hand-tint lithographs, a process whose big advantage was its ability to easily do full-colour prints? Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 13:18, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Shubinator ( talk) 20:51, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Durova. I have come to you with a question about an image because I know you have much experience in this area. A new user Jamaldn has uploaded an image, File:Knr-big-mosque-inscription.jpg, that he credits to a "Professor JP Mulliner" while at the same time claiming that he is the copyright holder. Jamaldn is not the professor, who is very likely fictitious (background here and here). The image is interesting, but nobody has any verifiable information about it. How would you resolve the copyright issue? Aramgar ( talk) 02:18, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi Durova. I'm having a "bad day" so to speak, and I wanted to ask some questions to an experienced editor. I'm not sure who the best person is to ask, but I thought you might be willing to drop your 2 cents on me. Here goes: 1) I've mostly worked in my corner of the 'Pedia, but a couple articles I've stumbled on have been disputed. In dealing with the dispute resolution processes I find they assume people are editing with good faith and willing to compromise, but in cases of fanatacism there doesn't seem to be any end or effective solution. So instead it goes to Arbcomm where they "don't deal with content". That's all well and good, but for instance there has been a months long stand-off over whether Ayn Rand is a philosopher. And what's really needed is some resolution. A panel of adults to weigh in and say: these are the sources, these are the arguments, this is how it should be handled.
Okay so here's my issue, instead of that we have a months long (at least it seems that way I don't have the patience to follow the process in all its minutiae) diff mongering hearings that go on incessantly wasting the time of what I must think are otherwise useful editors and the only result is a bunch bans and blocks and editing restrictions. This is a horrendous outcome. All those involved, even the fanatics, are good faith though sometimes opinionated editors. They need guidance and resolution not this endless process that doesn't deal with the content in dispute. And if there a blockable violations why wasn't action taken along the way instead of waiting so darn long?
And I have related frustrations over all the what I would call bureaucracy like this blocking of ScienceApologist over spelling corrections. I notice that pages come in unpatrolled, lots of them, and yet there is this endless drama on ANI and other boards, a constant mopping, much of it necessary no doubt, but in other cases it just seems like mopping for the sake of mopping. And why isn't there somewhere to post general article issues? We have AfD, ANI, AN, all these enforcement places, but heaven forbid you want independent input from a broad range of editors, there's no place to go. (Yes, I know about RfCs and third opinions, but a general board where normal editors can resolve issues would sure be nice.) I just don't understand it all. Oh well. Sorry for the long thread from a disgruntled radical. Maybe some of your fans will comment. I'm just frustrated with it all and I could use some insights. Isn't there a better way? ChildofMidnight ( talk) 03:50, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
The key would be to define its parameters so it doesn't get out of hand, and so that it doesn't overlap with existing processes. Might be a good topic for a centralized discussion on how to implement the idea and make it practical. Durova Charge! 02:13, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Your
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File:Baseball_glass_workers2.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at
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Hey Durova. You added a caption here that says the image was the "Cover art for the original incarnation of Life Magazine". I take this to mean that the first issue of Life magazine had that image on the cover; is my inference correct? If so, do you have a source for it? Thanks! seresin ( ¡? ) 05:55, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Your
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File:Babe Ruth2.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at
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Your
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File:USS Texas2.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at
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Hi, I'm so sorry I haven't been able to catch you around. I looked for you a few times on Skype the other week, but I think we have a big time difference which probably doesn't help. Hope its still ok to get involved with photo rest. I've had a bit of an unexpected wikibreak, but will see if I can spot you later (once I have been thru my much neglected watchlist!) Regards, sassf ( talk) 10:48, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
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Hi. I don't know if you noticed this today or not, but apparently the rangeblock wasn't wide enough to catch all the IPs that go back to that address. [1] Thanks. Wildhartlivie ( talk) 02:16, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Durova. Thanks for your assistance in everything.
I was wondering, since Elizabeth and Alison are off-wiki, if you could help me. I requested assistance at WP:ANI to no avail. I screwed up in my attempt to recreate a disambiguation page after the original was deleted when one of the pages was deleted. The deleted page was restored by User: Eliz81 after I was unbanned.
I thought a disamb. page was needed as there are two subjects with the exact same name ( Duncan Ferguson (political activist), Duncan Ferguson (Scottish football player)), but I now know that a disamb. page is not required for only two names.
Right now, however, the edit history of Duncan Ferguson (Scottish football player) was deleted although it still exists at Duncan Ferguson.
Please help. Thanks, Rms125a@hotmail.com ( talk) 11:56, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Done (I hope correctly :P ). Cirt ( talk) 15:28, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi Durova,
Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:The Anatomy Lesson.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on March 13, 2009. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2009-03-13. howcheng { chat} 16:28, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
I went in and fixed recent edits of yours that deleted too much of what was good in the articles about Albert Herter and Ethel Franklin Betts. You got rid of categories in the latter and beneficial edits which improved the former. Looks like the battle fury was upon you in your fight to rid WP of linkspam! Binksternet ( talk) 18:51, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
My apologies for the controversial or inappropriate edits on the pages for certain American Illustrators I made this morning and yesterday afternoon. The museum links and links for further reading I considered to be appropriate given the subject matter, and while I had the oral consent of the authors of the biographical material I cut and pasted, I was not properly diligent in reading the terms and conditions for wikipedia, particularly with how they pertain to copyright. Rest assured I have better things to do then spending a good sized chunk out of two days "vandalizing" or "spamming" wikipedia. Once again my apologies, and please receive my sincere assurances that these edits and links were not done with any malice or willful disregard for Wikipedia. Wikipedia is the #1 thing I like about the internet, and I would never deliberately interfere or make things difficult with its operation.
That being said, after being notified that these edits I made were inappropriate, I went to change the pages back to how they existed prior to my edits. In every instance, either you Durova, or someone else, has beaten me to it. I just want to say sorry, and thank you. Please do not hesitate to contact me if there are any further matters that need to be discussed with regards to this issue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erikb02809 ( talk • contribs) 19:30, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Ok, should be enabled. -Erikb02809 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erikb02809 ( talk • contribs) 14:50, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Your
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File:Military aviary2.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at
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Your
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File:John Phillip Sousa - De Wolf Hopper - El Capitan1.png, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at
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Copied from my page - you did redo the colours of the version that passed. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 08:37, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Yes, if you can send me the uncompressed tif somehow I'll redo with that and replace my edit with it. How do you want to get it to me - FTP/Yousendit/temp upload to WP? Name your method. Mfield ( talk) 23:58, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Heaven help you there. Btw are you good at command line conversions? I've just about finished a restoration on the Wright brothers' first flight (for delist/replace) and it's one of those once in a blue moon TIFF files that my software doesn't want to convert to JPEG. Not sure why this happens occasionally. Durova Charge! 22:20, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
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Durova. I award you this for helping me find an image that has passed, and a gif that is passing. It was my first featured credit at featured pictures, and I humbly thank you. Syn ergy 01:17, 13 March 2009 (UTC) |
Something along your expertise: Do you think this is eligible for Commons? I want to transfer all FPs to Commons, but of course, must err on the side of copyright safety. Thanks for the help! :-) ~ ωαdεstεr16 ♣T C♣ 02:39, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi Durova,
Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Wrecked ammunition train3.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on March 15, 2009. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2009-03-15. howcheng { chat} 22:03, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Your
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File:Democratic presidential ticket 1864b.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at
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Your
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File:Republican presidential ticket 1864b.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at
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You're invited to sign up as a founding member, at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#WikiProject Historic Sites ! :) doncram ( talk) 05:37, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
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Hi Durova,
Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Sultan Pasha Al-Atrash2.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on March 18, 2009. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2009-03-18. howcheng { chat} 00:15, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi Durova,
Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Napoleon's exile to Elba3.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on May 3, 2009. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2009-05-03. I'm doing this a little early so I don't forget when the time comes. howcheng { chat} 01:56, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Hello. In two articles where I had added a source, you reverted them out as not referenced in the article and as good faith edits which of course they were.
They were in the articles, Quilt and History of quilting. One I added as "Further reading" which exempts it from being referenced in the article proper. So, without discussion they were removed by you. They are interesting and useful perhaps as a further reading. Why did you remove a further reading and also revert out the University of Nebraska external link which is presumably of interest? Please advise. Best wishes. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc ( talk) 17:50, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Hey,
I wanted to give you this heads up behind my thinking. I was never thinking of politics behind what I was saying and I am quite away of how featured images work. However, when I think of adding images to articles, I look at it with an over all perspective, not a featured image perspective. What I mean is this: does the image help augment the article and better explain the section? When a reader looks at the image, can it stand on it's own and explain what is going on without captions? A better example would be this: say we have an article on a rather notable fire at a rather notable historic structure. Not many photos were taking during or after the fire. The article is not a big article, almost a stub, so there really is only room for one or two images. There are three images of the event: one is a low res shot of the building on fire. A second one is also a medium res version of the firefighters fighting the fire. Finally, the third is a very high res version of a man posing with the fire going on in the background, but not the main focus of the shot. Plus the high res version is a featured image. When adding images to the article, I look through the images and select the two most relevant images, irregardless of quality, that better show the event (I.E. the low and medium res images).
Now that image you added needed caption, (well written captions) to explain that he is a senator in that shot and that he was giving a speech. If I removed that caption I could easily add any other caption ranging from him being pissed that he had lost a state election to him looking arrogant. I also know that the image was originally intended to replace the main image and to that end, the uploader had cropped out the majority of the shot to focus on his rather pissed off looking face in hopes of a campaign stunt (This was way back in the primaries.).
Lastly, if you had just reasonably answered my questions the first time I asked them, instead of blowing me off (which what you had written had appeared to me) I most likely have had no problem and left it alone. I am not against using featured images in articles, but I don't subscribe to the notion that if an image is featured it trumps everything else. I tend to look at the over all article and that was what my questions were aimed at, nothing more. Brothejr ( talk) 15:11, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
On behalf of the Wikipedia:Kindness Campaign, we just want to spread Wikipedia:WikiLove by wishing you a Happy Saint Patrick’s Day! Sincerely, -- A Nobody My talk 15:32, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Guessing I should qualify?
Guettarda ( talk) 16:37, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Do you really think that's going to help? I'm confused. — Hex (❝?!❞) 16:51, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi Durova,
Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Light bulb Edison 2.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on March 19, 2009. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2009-03-19. howcheng { chat} 18:12, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Please use {{ LOC-image}} (Commons has this template too) when uploading your LOC P&P images. I can't find File:D-Day.jpg anywhere in P&P or American Memory (use the permalinks for the latter). :( Thanks, howcheng { chat} 19:04, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Could you please look at this nomination, which you voted to delist, I assume per size concerns. I believe that those have been addressed. ErikTheBikeMan ( talk) 22:01, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your advice. Could you have another look? I've made the requested edits. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 22:58, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Can you have a quick skim over my comments about you here, and make sure I've not completely misrepresented your opinions (in the section that begins "Few image concerns…"). Thanks! – iridescent 00:05, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I've had to make some changes, I hope I haven't broken too much:
Please take a more congenial tone. Durova Charge! 01:30, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Most of the issues you raised were addressed by an editor, so, can you please take a look and reconsider your position? Thanks. -- Ragib ( talk) 07:32, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Historic Sites is opened up. I took the liberty of assuming your support for the wikiproject meant you wanted to join as a member, and I copied your signature to the Members list on the main page. Please visit and add to, or remove, your listing there. It would be great to hear about what you're interested in the Wikiproject being, in your member comment and/or at the Talk page, shortcut wt:HSITES. Thanks for your support! doncram ( talk) 17:21, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
http://www.boingboing.net/2009/03/17/massive-archive-of-u.html
http://www.flickr.com/photos/medicalmuseum/
I talked to Roger about it. His position is that the finding doesn't mention this sock in particular, but refers to general sock disruptiveness. I think that's a well-supported position to take. Cool Hand Luke 18:49, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Your
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You're ready to be an admin. Anyone watching this page, please agree now. Syn ergy 21:48, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Durova never wasn't ready. She made a mistake. Actually a mistake far less serious than mistakes routinely made by many administrators. often with no consequence at all. She resigned rather than allow disruption to be created, something which should be far more common (with, then, less disruptive process to request that she return). My guess is that most of what she wants to do, she does not need an admin bit. Obviously, I would fully support any RfA for her, but my opinion is that she never did deserve removal of the bit, that the community lost by its loss, and, while the bit was removed "under a cloud" and thus not restorable except by ArbComm action upon her request (I'd assume) or by a new RfA, I would not recommend that she apply. If someone else wants to make the request on her behalf, she would then decide whether or not to accept this and allow the discussion to continue, but I'd also recommend to her that she not participate on the RfAr page, beyond minimal response to questions, if even that. (I.e., "want to ask me a question, ask me on my Talk.") She should not have to go through any disruptive or difficult process to get her bit back, if she even would accept it. -- Abd ( talk) 17:56, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Can you upload a PNG of your version of this? I think I might like to work on the uncropped, if you have one saved at that point - no reason not to provide two options, and it's not a significant amount of extra work. I think your choice is an excellent choice for on Wikipedia, but if I'm going to put a lot of time into it, may as well throw in a version that might be prefered in other contexts.
Wish this wasn't black and white, though. For this kind of engraving, colour does make the finer lines look a bit better. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 16:13, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
File:John_Paul_Jones2.png Durova Charge! 16:21, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
132.62.88.94 seems to be vandalizing John Paul Jones on a pretty regular basis, I was wondering if you wouldn't mind getting someone to block him again. DrAlbertOxfordPhD ( talk) 20:42, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
I put the warning up, but it's the fifth one on their talk page. I doubt this is going to get them to stop. DrAlbertOxfordPhD ( talk) 21:33, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
SA seems to be creating disruption deliberately. Please see my comment at Jehochman talk, which is not an invitation to you to respond there! That comment refers to two AE reports that show cooperation between SA and Hipocrite; SA makes a spelling correction to an article covered by the topic ban, Hipocrite -- who considers the ban ridiculous -- reverts it and reports it formally to AE. On Jehochman Talk, I suggest a solution that respects both the WP:IAR stated intention of SA and the needs of Arbitration enforcement. That is, if SA makes a trivial correction to an article, not controversial, he should immediately revert himself, thus leaving behind no net edit, but calling attention to the spelling error, and making it a matter of seconds for anyone else, usually, to fix it, just revert his self-reversion. This is much more efficient than proposing an edit on Talk. And if he once in a while fails to revert himself, nobody is going to block him over a spelling correction; the problem is that if he's making many such corrections, AE becomes much more complicated and this toe over the line could creep. If he reverts himself, no problem at all, no disruption, unless the edits become truly controversial, in which case ordinary AE can deal with it as disruptive.
Note that if SA were blocked, he'd not be able to make these spelling corrections except perhaps as IP. Spelling corrections don't carry a signature of the editor, and even when blocked editors are ID'd as socks, sometimes all their contributions are more or less automatically reverted, including spelling corrections. I have, on occasion, tracked these edits and reverted the block-reversions. Anyone who wants to help both the project and SA could, then, just watch his contributions, taking very little time. But if that was used to circumvent the ban, (i.e., SA makes controversial edit, reverts self, and then supporting editor shows up and without discussion and consensus in Talk, reverts it back in) it would be meat puppetry and itself sanctionable.
I'm hoping that your advice to SA will be more effective than if I were the one to make the suggestion to him. -- Abd ( talk) 17:48, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) This is part of why I was so disappointed in the Arbitration Committee. Before the case opened I began mentoring SA, and still am. There was no quid pro quo implied or intended, and I explicitly told the Committee both before the case opened and when the proposed decision went up that I had no intention of politicizing the mentorship by using it as any sort of leverage in terms of potential sanctions. I declined the offer they were making before it went up, and was surprised to see it both go live and pass under the same name (but a fundamentally different concept) from what I was doing. I was never bound by it. They simply took it into their heads to wish that someone would fill a role they envisioned, and they chose (very foolishly IMO) to call their phantom position by the same name as what I was doing.
The result is that you--a hardworking Wikipedian doing your best to help--are getting the mistaken impression that somehow I haven't done things correctly. Rest assured that I have. If you read over the talk page of the original case request, you'll see my announcement and disclaimer. The talk page of the proposed decision has my reactions (at first stunned, then increasingly incensed), and the archives of the Arbitration Committee announcement board talk page contains my threat to resign from all mentorships in protest against the Committee's action.
For the foreseeable future, if I take on any new mentorships I intend to keep them out of the Committee's eye. This isn't the first time their attempts at interference have wasted my time and undermined my work in this area. Durova Charge! 23:07, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi Durova,
Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Arctic eclipse.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on March 8, 2009. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2009-03-08. howcheng { chat} 18:28, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Your
Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for
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File:Aerial house3.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at
Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates.
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Durova, I've closed Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/John Paul Jones as not promoted. Feel free to relist once you have finished. I hope you understand. Thanks, Spencer T♦ C 17:14, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
The nomination for that picture appears to have been transcluded twice. You might want to check WP:FPC. ErikTheBikeMan ( talk) 20:18, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
Useful question/comment for considering, that the orphan tags might be driving users away, rather than bringing them in. Look at this for instance: Praxis porphyretica. The tag overwhelms the article. This was my original concern, that the tag overwhelms the article detracting from its usefulness, plus the temptation to inappropriately deorphan articles by adding spurious links that don't increase the value of the information to the reader. -- KP Botany ( talk) 21:29, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
Durova,
Please ask Zahakiel to stop vandalizing my user page. -- e.Shubee ( talk) 05:20, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
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Wait, really? Why on earth would you hand-tint lithographs, a process whose big advantage was its ability to easily do full-colour prints? Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 13:18, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Shubinator ( talk) 20:51, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Durova. I have come to you with a question about an image because I know you have much experience in this area. A new user Jamaldn has uploaded an image, File:Knr-big-mosque-inscription.jpg, that he credits to a "Professor JP Mulliner" while at the same time claiming that he is the copyright holder. Jamaldn is not the professor, who is very likely fictitious (background here and here). The image is interesting, but nobody has any verifiable information about it. How would you resolve the copyright issue? Aramgar ( talk) 02:18, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi Durova. I'm having a "bad day" so to speak, and I wanted to ask some questions to an experienced editor. I'm not sure who the best person is to ask, but I thought you might be willing to drop your 2 cents on me. Here goes: 1) I've mostly worked in my corner of the 'Pedia, but a couple articles I've stumbled on have been disputed. In dealing with the dispute resolution processes I find they assume people are editing with good faith and willing to compromise, but in cases of fanatacism there doesn't seem to be any end or effective solution. So instead it goes to Arbcomm where they "don't deal with content". That's all well and good, but for instance there has been a months long stand-off over whether Ayn Rand is a philosopher. And what's really needed is some resolution. A panel of adults to weigh in and say: these are the sources, these are the arguments, this is how it should be handled.
Okay so here's my issue, instead of that we have a months long (at least it seems that way I don't have the patience to follow the process in all its minutiae) diff mongering hearings that go on incessantly wasting the time of what I must think are otherwise useful editors and the only result is a bunch bans and blocks and editing restrictions. This is a horrendous outcome. All those involved, even the fanatics, are good faith though sometimes opinionated editors. They need guidance and resolution not this endless process that doesn't deal with the content in dispute. And if there a blockable violations why wasn't action taken along the way instead of waiting so darn long?
And I have related frustrations over all the what I would call bureaucracy like this blocking of ScienceApologist over spelling corrections. I notice that pages come in unpatrolled, lots of them, and yet there is this endless drama on ANI and other boards, a constant mopping, much of it necessary no doubt, but in other cases it just seems like mopping for the sake of mopping. And why isn't there somewhere to post general article issues? We have AfD, ANI, AN, all these enforcement places, but heaven forbid you want independent input from a broad range of editors, there's no place to go. (Yes, I know about RfCs and third opinions, but a general board where normal editors can resolve issues would sure be nice.) I just don't understand it all. Oh well. Sorry for the long thread from a disgruntled radical. Maybe some of your fans will comment. I'm just frustrated with it all and I could use some insights. Isn't there a better way? ChildofMidnight ( talk) 03:50, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
The key would be to define its parameters so it doesn't get out of hand, and so that it doesn't overlap with existing processes. Might be a good topic for a centralized discussion on how to implement the idea and make it practical. Durova Charge! 02:13, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Your
Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for
featured picture status,
File:Baseball_glass_workers2.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at
Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates.
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Hey Durova. You added a caption here that says the image was the "Cover art for the original incarnation of Life Magazine". I take this to mean that the first issue of Life magazine had that image on the cover; is my inference correct? If so, do you have a source for it? Thanks! seresin ( ¡? ) 05:55, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Your
Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for
featured picture status,
File:Babe Ruth2.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at
Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates.
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Your
Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for
featured picture status,
File:USS Texas2.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at
Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates.
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Hi, I'm so sorry I haven't been able to catch you around. I looked for you a few times on Skype the other week, but I think we have a big time difference which probably doesn't help. Hope its still ok to get involved with photo rest. I've had a bit of an unexpected wikibreak, but will see if I can spot you later (once I have been thru my much neglected watchlist!) Regards, sassf ( talk) 10:48, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
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Hi. I don't know if you noticed this today or not, but apparently the rangeblock wasn't wide enough to catch all the IPs that go back to that address. [1] Thanks. Wildhartlivie ( talk) 02:16, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Durova. Thanks for your assistance in everything.
I was wondering, since Elizabeth and Alison are off-wiki, if you could help me. I requested assistance at WP:ANI to no avail. I screwed up in my attempt to recreate a disambiguation page after the original was deleted when one of the pages was deleted. The deleted page was restored by User: Eliz81 after I was unbanned.
I thought a disamb. page was needed as there are two subjects with the exact same name ( Duncan Ferguson (political activist), Duncan Ferguson (Scottish football player)), but I now know that a disamb. page is not required for only two names.
Right now, however, the edit history of Duncan Ferguson (Scottish football player) was deleted although it still exists at Duncan Ferguson.
Please help. Thanks, Rms125a@hotmail.com ( talk) 11:56, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Done (I hope correctly :P ). Cirt ( talk) 15:28, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi Durova,
Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:The Anatomy Lesson.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on March 13, 2009. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2009-03-13. howcheng { chat} 16:28, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
I went in and fixed recent edits of yours that deleted too much of what was good in the articles about Albert Herter and Ethel Franklin Betts. You got rid of categories in the latter and beneficial edits which improved the former. Looks like the battle fury was upon you in your fight to rid WP of linkspam! Binksternet ( talk) 18:51, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
My apologies for the controversial or inappropriate edits on the pages for certain American Illustrators I made this morning and yesterday afternoon. The museum links and links for further reading I considered to be appropriate given the subject matter, and while I had the oral consent of the authors of the biographical material I cut and pasted, I was not properly diligent in reading the terms and conditions for wikipedia, particularly with how they pertain to copyright. Rest assured I have better things to do then spending a good sized chunk out of two days "vandalizing" or "spamming" wikipedia. Once again my apologies, and please receive my sincere assurances that these edits and links were not done with any malice or willful disregard for Wikipedia. Wikipedia is the #1 thing I like about the internet, and I would never deliberately interfere or make things difficult with its operation.
That being said, after being notified that these edits I made were inappropriate, I went to change the pages back to how they existed prior to my edits. In every instance, either you Durova, or someone else, has beaten me to it. I just want to say sorry, and thank you. Please do not hesitate to contact me if there are any further matters that need to be discussed with regards to this issue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erikb02809 ( talk • contribs) 19:30, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Ok, should be enabled. -Erikb02809 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erikb02809 ( talk • contribs) 14:50, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Your
Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for
featured picture status,
File:Military aviary2.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at
Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates.
MER-C 08:21, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
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Your
Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for
featured picture status,
File:John Phillip Sousa - De Wolf Hopper - El Capitan1.png, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at
Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates.
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Copied from my page - you did redo the colours of the version that passed. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 08:37, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Yes, if you can send me the uncompressed tif somehow I'll redo with that and replace my edit with it. How do you want to get it to me - FTP/Yousendit/temp upload to WP? Name your method. Mfield ( talk) 23:58, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Heaven help you there. Btw are you good at command line conversions? I've just about finished a restoration on the Wright brothers' first flight (for delist/replace) and it's one of those once in a blue moon TIFF files that my software doesn't want to convert to JPEG. Not sure why this happens occasionally. Durova Charge! 22:20, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
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Durova. I award you this for helping me find an image that has passed, and a gif that is passing. It was my first featured credit at featured pictures, and I humbly thank you. Syn ergy 01:17, 13 March 2009 (UTC) |
Something along your expertise: Do you think this is eligible for Commons? I want to transfer all FPs to Commons, but of course, must err on the side of copyright safety. Thanks for the help! :-) ~ ωαdεstεr16 ♣T C♣ 02:39, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi Durova,
Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Wrecked ammunition train3.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on March 15, 2009. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2009-03-15. howcheng { chat} 22:03, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Your
Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for
featured picture status,
File:Democratic presidential ticket 1864b.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at
Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates.
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Your
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featured picture status,
File:Republican presidential ticket 1864b.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at
Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates.
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You're invited to sign up as a founding member, at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#WikiProject Historic Sites ! :) doncram ( talk) 05:37, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
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Hi Durova,
Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Sultan Pasha Al-Atrash2.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on March 18, 2009. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2009-03-18. howcheng { chat} 00:15, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi Durova,
Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Napoleon's exile to Elba3.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on May 3, 2009. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2009-05-03. I'm doing this a little early so I don't forget when the time comes. howcheng { chat} 01:56, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Hello. In two articles where I had added a source, you reverted them out as not referenced in the article and as good faith edits which of course they were.
They were in the articles, Quilt and History of quilting. One I added as "Further reading" which exempts it from being referenced in the article proper. So, without discussion they were removed by you. They are interesting and useful perhaps as a further reading. Why did you remove a further reading and also revert out the University of Nebraska external link which is presumably of interest? Please advise. Best wishes. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc ( talk) 17:50, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Hey,
I wanted to give you this heads up behind my thinking. I was never thinking of politics behind what I was saying and I am quite away of how featured images work. However, when I think of adding images to articles, I look at it with an over all perspective, not a featured image perspective. What I mean is this: does the image help augment the article and better explain the section? When a reader looks at the image, can it stand on it's own and explain what is going on without captions? A better example would be this: say we have an article on a rather notable fire at a rather notable historic structure. Not many photos were taking during or after the fire. The article is not a big article, almost a stub, so there really is only room for one or two images. There are three images of the event: one is a low res shot of the building on fire. A second one is also a medium res version of the firefighters fighting the fire. Finally, the third is a very high res version of a man posing with the fire going on in the background, but not the main focus of the shot. Plus the high res version is a featured image. When adding images to the article, I look through the images and select the two most relevant images, irregardless of quality, that better show the event (I.E. the low and medium res images).
Now that image you added needed caption, (well written captions) to explain that he is a senator in that shot and that he was giving a speech. If I removed that caption I could easily add any other caption ranging from him being pissed that he had lost a state election to him looking arrogant. I also know that the image was originally intended to replace the main image and to that end, the uploader had cropped out the majority of the shot to focus on his rather pissed off looking face in hopes of a campaign stunt (This was way back in the primaries.).
Lastly, if you had just reasonably answered my questions the first time I asked them, instead of blowing me off (which what you had written had appeared to me) I most likely have had no problem and left it alone. I am not against using featured images in articles, but I don't subscribe to the notion that if an image is featured it trumps everything else. I tend to look at the over all article and that was what my questions were aimed at, nothing more. Brothejr ( talk) 15:11, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
On behalf of the Wikipedia:Kindness Campaign, we just want to spread Wikipedia:WikiLove by wishing you a Happy Saint Patrick’s Day! Sincerely, -- A Nobody My talk 15:32, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Guessing I should qualify?
Guettarda ( talk) 16:37, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Do you really think that's going to help? I'm confused. — Hex (❝?!❞) 16:51, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi Durova,
Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Light bulb Edison 2.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on March 19, 2009. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2009-03-19. howcheng { chat} 18:12, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Please use {{ LOC-image}} (Commons has this template too) when uploading your LOC P&P images. I can't find File:D-Day.jpg anywhere in P&P or American Memory (use the permalinks for the latter). :( Thanks, howcheng { chat} 19:04, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Could you please look at this nomination, which you voted to delist, I assume per size concerns. I believe that those have been addressed. ErikTheBikeMan ( talk) 22:01, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your advice. Could you have another look? I've made the requested edits. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 22:58, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Can you have a quick skim over my comments about you here, and make sure I've not completely misrepresented your opinions (in the section that begins "Few image concerns…"). Thanks! – iridescent 00:05, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I've had to make some changes, I hope I haven't broken too much:
Please take a more congenial tone. Durova Charge! 01:30, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Most of the issues you raised were addressed by an editor, so, can you please take a look and reconsider your position? Thanks. -- Ragib ( talk) 07:32, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Historic Sites is opened up. I took the liberty of assuming your support for the wikiproject meant you wanted to join as a member, and I copied your signature to the Members list on the main page. Please visit and add to, or remove, your listing there. It would be great to hear about what you're interested in the Wikiproject being, in your member comment and/or at the Talk page, shortcut wt:HSITES. Thanks for your support! doncram ( talk) 17:21, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
http://www.boingboing.net/2009/03/17/massive-archive-of-u.html
http://www.flickr.com/photos/medicalmuseum/
I talked to Roger about it. His position is that the finding doesn't mention this sock in particular, but refers to general sock disruptiveness. I think that's a well-supported position to take. Cool Hand Luke 18:49, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Your
Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for
featured picture status,
File:Randy's donuts1 edit1.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at
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