You write "None of the footnotes provide... an access date for online citations, nor are any of the book or magazine citations presented in a standard format." I can't find anything in the MOS or in the pages for GAs or FAs that asks for access dates for URLS (except for Wayback Machine URLs) or that specifies the acceptable formats for book and magazine citations. Could you please provide wikilinks to those particular resources? ClairSamoht - Help make Wikipedia the most authoritative source of information in the world 21:10, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
for taking the extra time to comment on how to improve the article " Copenhagen Fire of 1728". Those are good ideas. By the way that's an impressive number of good articles you seem to be reviewing. Nice work. Hemmingsen 15:02, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi Durova! You're more than welcome... I loved that essay; nice work!!. Even after more than two years here, I'm glad to see there are still more great pages to find and read. Happy editing! Antandrus (talk) 20:44, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
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Please reconsider your opinion at the proposal to delete this redirect. I am the essay's creator and principal contributor. Its editors all agree that WP:MASTODONS is a better shortcut. This deletion request is not part of any broader effort to delete acronym shortcuts from essays in general: it is a specific request pertaining to one essay only and has full support from the people who are active at the page. Durova 14:21, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
You've got a good point. I didn't create any of the shortcuts. I support the deletion of this one and would probably support deletion of others. WP:MASTODONS best reflects the essay's spirit. Durova 15:04, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
You might check out this arbcom case. -- EngineerScotty 20:35, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Am I off-base on the notion of putting the burden of proof on the tendentious? If not, do we need to rethink the proposal under a different name? Mangoe 18:55, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
It's interesting. Since we're already the number 17 Alexa site our articles usually appear among the top returns at search engines. Has it been hard for your friends to locate our pages? Durova 03:43, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
no theyre not having trouble, i am, because i have to open up my email in another window type in their email adderss cut and paste the text of the url or both and send, its kinda tedious and im spoiled and used to doing it with newsarticles the more synergistic way, i think its a good idea, how can i make this happen? Qrc2006 23:47, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Many thanks for your kind words. On balance, I enjoy being part of the WP community, if I leave, it won't be out pique, just because it's no fun any more. However, it's full of very nice people and I would miss talking to them, so I will probably take a break and see if I want to resume. Gleng 16:40, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Good grief. It's good to laugh. Have to admit that there have been some surreal moments.
Read your essay, and you have my sincere respect; it's beautifully written. Gleng 21:10, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi, thanks a lot for getting involved in the Deucalionite case. It's always good to have more uninvolved people monitoring the situation. You might be interested in a note I left to User talk:JoshuaZ about the issue. As for the victim of the plagiarism, Deucalionite has actually in the meantime apologised to her ( User talk:Nauplion), and I have hopes the whole affair might in the end have one positive outcome in earning us a great new expert contributor. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:55, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure I have more experience than you. But it does seem to me like this is a dispute that will never be settled. Glengordon seems completely unwilling to budge, listen to reason, cooperate, or anything else. I was thinking of opening an RFC myself a few weeks ago, but decided to wait to see if another attempt to resolve the dispute would be made by someone else. Now that it has, I would think an RFC would be the best route to go. (Posted to my talk page as well) ~ ONUnicorn ( Talk / Contribs) 18:21, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Hello, there. Please take the time to vote for the various candidates over at Core_biographies#Voting_booth. If you can, try to read a bit about the candidates you don't know about so you can get a better idea of how to vote. Thanks! ♠ SG →Talk 10:45, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Saw your question at the Village Pump: I'm on IE6, and it looks fine from here. Sandy 02:31, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your help concerning my publishing the first of my books. The hand-written manuscript is completed for the first book in my series, I had not stated that explicitly in my original post.
As a continuation of that post, do you know any good places where I can submit parts of my work to see if it is fit (such as magazines, etc). Any information you may have would be greatly appreciated. Respectfully, Xel Pos'tare 13:24, 18 September 2006 (UTC) CaptainXel
in the discussion concerning Wikipedia:Tendentious editors. Of the 3 proposals pushed so far (the original, User:Mangoe's alternate, and the attempt to reunify them that I put up), I'd be willing to support any of them.
I am concerned, however, that disputes over minutiae might hurt things. Discussion of the differences between the three has stalled (perhaps for the weekend; I'm switching internet services so am currently without Internet access from home--I'm writing this at work)--one of the deficiencies of the Wikipedia policy proposal mechanism is that it's too easy for opponents to a proposal to sandbag it with debates over minutiae and such, keep a consensus from forming, and then slap {{ rejected}} on it claiming "lack of consensus". This proposal isn't old enough yet to do that, and other than User:Electrawn (whose objection seems to be "this won't succeed if put up for a vote", which is a non-objection in my book), there isn't any significant opposition.
I'm not sure why you think you upset someone with your participation--you certainly haven't said anything to upset me.
So... in the interest of keeping things moving:
Please, when you get the chance, answer on Wikipedia talk:Tendentious editors (we've too many talk pages going).
I will post a similar set of questions at User:Mangoe's home page. I'll post my own thoughts at the talk page as indicated above.
Thanks, and I look forward to your continued participation!
-- EngineerScotty 17:14, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Our proposal seems to have been co-opted by, um, well, a clutch of tendentious editors. I'm just about ready to go back and try to get the move undone, but frankly I don't have much hope for it. Mangoe 22:46, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
Template talk:Did you know Read the rules before nominating. Best wishes, Durova 16:00, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
That conflict seems to have died down. At Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Glengordon01, Glengordon01 agreed to stop editing the page. The RFC and the article talk page have been quiet for several days now. Do you think it's time to unprotect the article? Four weeks seems like a long time for page protection. Cordially, Durova 17:16, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
I posted that as a rhetorical device to try and get across DiLorenzo's sloppy and maddening style. I'm inclined to agree with your view on Lincoln. Hope that didn't come off as overly defensive. Stilgar135 16:40, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
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For the tips on Martin Velíšek! If you get a chance, could you tell me how to get the name links to work, so that all versions of the name, with or without discritics, link there? I can't find instructions on how to do it... Cheers, grendelsmother 16:05, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for some very kind responses to my review. I do decide on GA nominees pretty often. Once you think the article is ready to nominate, drop me a line on my talk page. I'll probably recuse myself from actually deciding on the candidacy, but I'd be glad to give it another once-over just prior to a GA try. Best wishes and keep up the good work, Durova 09:58, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Much information responsive to your excellent suggestions has been added to this article. Would it be possible for you to take a peek at it? More refs are on their way. NorCalHistory 02:36, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Thank you again for your warm encouragement which was extraordinarily helpful. I expect that we will proceed with a good article nomination. I'll keep you up to date! NorCalHistory 10:10, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi how are you? Thanks for your reviews on Indonesia article. I was thinking about your words about GA nomination. Do you think, as the issues have been done, could it pass GA nomination? Because I don't think we can stand for another GA failure, T.T Cheers -- I mo eng 12:42, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments, 'fraid I'm gone though. Good luck. See [1] Gleng 14:44, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. I had good luck as well as bad; editors Dematt and Fyslee are both true stars, amongst many, and it was a priviledge to know them. I'll post an essay sometime on sources. Otherwise, I'll watch and see; I really hope this works, am certainly not sour about the project. All the very best. Gleng 10:59, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
I saw your post on the ACLU talk page. Anything you could do to help out, even just watching the page for vandalism, would be great. Thanks for your input and I hope to see you again. Jasper23 08:31, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I swear, you are everywhere I go. I have been dealing with RFCs, and I see your name alot. I agree with what you say. You are a real help to Wikipedia. I just wanted to thank you personally. You do alot for this site. -- Connor K. 20:34, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Davodd 03:01, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
With reference to your comments at Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)#Editors Who Are Vandals, and Thugs and Ferals, I object strongly to being called a vandal, thug and feral. The anon has failed to respond to the RfC raised in July til now in October, despite contributing regularly to wikipedia since then (her contributions since the RfC have been documented at Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/203.54.*.*, the IPs used by her up to the time of the RfC are listed at the RfC. Her suggestion "I have hardly ever been here." is disingenuous. She has consistently abused me since July. For the time being I will continue my wikibreak until somebody removes the personal attacks she has posted, including at Village Pump.
Despite her assertions on User talk:Thatcher131, I most emphatically do not know that she has "the other verifying info re Coolac", why should I - she has never cited anything in support of the alleged massacre.
The accusations of plagiarism were discussed at Talk:Gundagai, New South Wales#Plagiarism of Bruce Elder.
My issue with her latest contribution about Yarri at Gundagai was its lack of balance, even in the context of the cite provided (I have the Butcher book). In the context of the anon's past edits, she uses the wikipedia as a soapbox (when not attacking it or various editors she has tangled with).
Her response to the RfC did not deal with the issues raised there of her breaches of
I am happy to discuss the efforts I made to bring the editor on board. I did try.-- Golden Wattle talk 10:20, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Another uninvolved editor who responded to the Village Pump appeal even complained that posts to their user talk page got deleted. I have look and can't find where the editor responded and complained. Reason why it was reverted was that it was unsigned and the Anon was block. The Anon is calling me by my name (My old user name and the reason I have changed my name is that I don't want people looking up my phone number as well as address) and I can't edit it out or I will get attacked for removing it.
Personal attacks and assumptions of bad faith are taking place on both sides here. I have never made a personal attack but the Anon has made many personal attacks not just against me but to anyone who doesn't agree with her or proves that she is wrong. The Anon has also vandalised the Wagga Wagga article to make a point [35].
I will be also taking a break until the Anon is dealt with. -- Bidgee 03:08, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
The Nadezhda Durova was brought to my attention by another editor. What an interesting subject! A belated thanks for adding to Wikipedia. A WPMILHIST tag has been added. I've also assessed it at B-class, though I think it is a good candidate for GA. — ERcheck ( talk) 15:29, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I saw you created and made List of notable brain tumor patients a featured list. I was hoping you could have a look at List of HIV-positive people and give me some critique. I only was trying to clean up this list but by now perhaps it could (eventually) become a featured list. Garion96 (talk) 21:44, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Do you mean to say FAC and not FLC? You said the same on the AfD on List of.. Hep C. Colin° Talk 17:12, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
Need it badly? Perhaps not. But there's always lots of things to do that need help, so it's certainly useful. I have looked over your contribs; while I don't know you well enough to nominate you, I would be among the first to support you if you were nominated by yourself or someone else. I'd say go for it. >Radiant< 09:02, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
I have filed a formal request for arbitration regarding the anonymous Gundagai editor. Please make any statements you feel are appropriate. Thatcher131 01:32, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
The Gundagai article antics continue. Did some editing there today, some with Wattle. (Asbestos Hill etc, then the Asbestos). Then along came a stirrer reverting. Then the edits got put back. Then gone again. Then put back. In between a stirring visit or two by the toolbags. Then big threat claiming the cache on my computer loaded old page. This is so silly re my computer as its set to empty when browser closed but I then also empty the Internet files, then 7 times out of 10, clean disk and defrag. <<Just a habit I have. So, the claim that I may have had old cache image was nonsense. Also, the history files were different. Its also set to new page each time I move. So, I got banned, and when I came back, my reply noting all this was also missing off the Gundagai discussion page. I then put it on the Rfc thingy then thought I might let you know also. Its not about me. Its about that they can do this to anyone and it is bullying etc.
Have to go finish an essay due Friday so thanks.
I think I sorted it durova. I will just ignore them. I should have done that from the start. I got some stuf fon page tonight and with no one coming it chipping me or messing stuf fup, it was nice and peaceful plus content got posted on wik. Ty for your support. Its probably been tiring for all but it was pretty bizarre also.
Cheers
On your RfA page you stated with reference to the Gundagia anon dispute I'm concerned about selective enforcement: uncivil behavior on the other side of this dispute has not resulted in warnings or anything else. - Can you please name an instance where I have been uncivil or who you see "the other side as" and who on that "other side" has been uncivil? For example, I also do not believe Bidgee has ever been uncivil. Noting that we had both been to AN/I, actively participated in the RfC, the reversion approach had been documented, .... uncivil is hardly to my mind an appropriate descriptor if reversions are what your areferring to. See for example User talk:203.54.174.219 for an example of exchanges between Bidgee and the anon; I can't see anything to criticise about Bidgee's behaviour, once it is taken as a given that uncivil and unsigned edits and edits by blocked users are reverted; the user was blocked for a week [41] from the IP they edited from on 4 October, they were covered by that block at the time of the reversions you have referred to. I don't really wish to wikilawyer but I am still disturbed at the lack of good faith you continue to show and your public assertions showing that lack of good faith.-- Golden Wattle talk 00:49, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Question 4 - the other editor is User:Bidgee Golden Wattle talk 20:11, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
I don't like being called a vandal when I haven't done anything wrong. -- Bidgee 04:03, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
I've decided to take one more day before deciding on a new statement at ArbCom. On the good side, I'm glad that since your latest block you haven't gotten into any tussles on talk pages. I'm also glad to see what looks like productive editing.
Now here's the problem: up until that block your behavior was pointedly disruptive. The only really blatant incivility I'm seeing is yours. You even lashed out at an administrator who had dropped by the Gungadai talk page to leave a polite note. I'm not very pleased about how you've reposted my statements from this page into other places, using out-of-date comments to imply that I support you when really all I've done is extend the benefit of the doubt. Other comments you made at the ArbCom request look downright defiant.
You've stated that no one ever explained why signing posts is a good idea. Mainly it helps to make threads readable. If nobody signed their posts then it would be very hard to follow where one statement ends and another begins or who posted what. Signing also date stamps information, which makes it easier to check the history of a thread later on. Most editors get into the habit of signing posts after their first week or so. I've read your reason for not signing and here's the catch: Wikipedia has to provide some sort of identifier per the terms of the GDFL contract that all users agree to publish under when people enter information here on any page. Wikipedia really doesn't operate according to your interpretation of Australian Internet privacy law. The way to resolve privacy concerns is to create a fictitious username, which also has the benefit of generating a user page and user talk page. You mentioned above that you wished another editor had introduced himself or herself before commenting about you - well the way to make those introductions possible is to register an account.
The way things are taking shape, I'm changing my mind toward agreeing that arbitration is a good idea. If you haven't done so already I suggest you read up on arbitration and I repeat my recommendation a third and final time that you seek a formal mentorship. The improvement to your editing is a step forward - but only one step - and you've also taken several steps backward. Last week I went out on a limb for you and you've mostly demonstrated that your detractors are right. Fair-to-middling editing work isn't enough to make up for the hassles you're creating for other people. The main goal here is to write an encyclopedia, not to engage in backstage dramatics (and that is what this looks like to me). So if you really want to continue improving your favorite pages I suggest you take this arbitration very seriously and become more responsive to feedback. Respectfully, Durova 02:31, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, Durova, for clarifying your opinions and thoughts both here, at RfAr, and on the RfA page. I just wanted to let you know that I have been reading everything and I appreciate the time and effort you've taken in looking at both sides of the issue. Cheers, Sarah Ewart ( Talk) 03:36, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
Merci for the response on the Humanities board. I think you can explain to others just what I am bringing to their attention. I think it is double-standarded. See here for an example of confusion: Talk:Rachel_Bilson#Jewish_American_father_and_Italian_American_mother.3F.21. Harrison Ford is a good example. He's paternally Irish Catholic Christian and maternally Russian Ashkenazi Jewish. I would accept Jewish as shorthand for Israeli. Hasbro 09:11, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
You write "None of the footnotes provide... an access date for online citations, nor are any of the book or magazine citations presented in a standard format." I can't find anything in the MOS or in the pages for GAs or FAs that asks for access dates for URLS (except for Wayback Machine URLs) or that specifies the acceptable formats for book and magazine citations. Could you please provide wikilinks to those particular resources? ClairSamoht - Help make Wikipedia the most authoritative source of information in the world 21:10, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
for taking the extra time to comment on how to improve the article " Copenhagen Fire of 1728". Those are good ideas. By the way that's an impressive number of good articles you seem to be reviewing. Nice work. Hemmingsen 15:02, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi Durova! You're more than welcome... I loved that essay; nice work!!. Even after more than two years here, I'm glad to see there are still more great pages to find and read. Happy editing! Antandrus (talk) 20:44, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
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Please reconsider your opinion at the proposal to delete this redirect. I am the essay's creator and principal contributor. Its editors all agree that WP:MASTODONS is a better shortcut. This deletion request is not part of any broader effort to delete acronym shortcuts from essays in general: it is a specific request pertaining to one essay only and has full support from the people who are active at the page. Durova 14:21, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
You've got a good point. I didn't create any of the shortcuts. I support the deletion of this one and would probably support deletion of others. WP:MASTODONS best reflects the essay's spirit. Durova 15:04, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
You might check out this arbcom case. -- EngineerScotty 20:35, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Am I off-base on the notion of putting the burden of proof on the tendentious? If not, do we need to rethink the proposal under a different name? Mangoe 18:55, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
It's interesting. Since we're already the number 17 Alexa site our articles usually appear among the top returns at search engines. Has it been hard for your friends to locate our pages? Durova 03:43, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
no theyre not having trouble, i am, because i have to open up my email in another window type in their email adderss cut and paste the text of the url or both and send, its kinda tedious and im spoiled and used to doing it with newsarticles the more synergistic way, i think its a good idea, how can i make this happen? Qrc2006 23:47, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Many thanks for your kind words. On balance, I enjoy being part of the WP community, if I leave, it won't be out pique, just because it's no fun any more. However, it's full of very nice people and I would miss talking to them, so I will probably take a break and see if I want to resume. Gleng 16:40, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Good grief. It's good to laugh. Have to admit that there have been some surreal moments.
Read your essay, and you have my sincere respect; it's beautifully written. Gleng 21:10, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi, thanks a lot for getting involved in the Deucalionite case. It's always good to have more uninvolved people monitoring the situation. You might be interested in a note I left to User talk:JoshuaZ about the issue. As for the victim of the plagiarism, Deucalionite has actually in the meantime apologised to her ( User talk:Nauplion), and I have hopes the whole affair might in the end have one positive outcome in earning us a great new expert contributor. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:55, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure I have more experience than you. But it does seem to me like this is a dispute that will never be settled. Glengordon seems completely unwilling to budge, listen to reason, cooperate, or anything else. I was thinking of opening an RFC myself a few weeks ago, but decided to wait to see if another attempt to resolve the dispute would be made by someone else. Now that it has, I would think an RFC would be the best route to go. (Posted to my talk page as well) ~ ONUnicorn ( Talk / Contribs) 18:21, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Hello, there. Please take the time to vote for the various candidates over at Core_biographies#Voting_booth. If you can, try to read a bit about the candidates you don't know about so you can get a better idea of how to vote. Thanks! ♠ SG →Talk 10:45, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Saw your question at the Village Pump: I'm on IE6, and it looks fine from here. Sandy 02:31, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your help concerning my publishing the first of my books. The hand-written manuscript is completed for the first book in my series, I had not stated that explicitly in my original post.
As a continuation of that post, do you know any good places where I can submit parts of my work to see if it is fit (such as magazines, etc). Any information you may have would be greatly appreciated. Respectfully, Xel Pos'tare 13:24, 18 September 2006 (UTC) CaptainXel
in the discussion concerning Wikipedia:Tendentious editors. Of the 3 proposals pushed so far (the original, User:Mangoe's alternate, and the attempt to reunify them that I put up), I'd be willing to support any of them.
I am concerned, however, that disputes over minutiae might hurt things. Discussion of the differences between the three has stalled (perhaps for the weekend; I'm switching internet services so am currently without Internet access from home--I'm writing this at work)--one of the deficiencies of the Wikipedia policy proposal mechanism is that it's too easy for opponents to a proposal to sandbag it with debates over minutiae and such, keep a consensus from forming, and then slap {{ rejected}} on it claiming "lack of consensus". This proposal isn't old enough yet to do that, and other than User:Electrawn (whose objection seems to be "this won't succeed if put up for a vote", which is a non-objection in my book), there isn't any significant opposition.
I'm not sure why you think you upset someone with your participation--you certainly haven't said anything to upset me.
So... in the interest of keeping things moving:
Please, when you get the chance, answer on Wikipedia talk:Tendentious editors (we've too many talk pages going).
I will post a similar set of questions at User:Mangoe's home page. I'll post my own thoughts at the talk page as indicated above.
Thanks, and I look forward to your continued participation!
-- EngineerScotty 17:14, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Our proposal seems to have been co-opted by, um, well, a clutch of tendentious editors. I'm just about ready to go back and try to get the move undone, but frankly I don't have much hope for it. Mangoe 22:46, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
Template talk:Did you know Read the rules before nominating. Best wishes, Durova 16:00, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
That conflict seems to have died down. At Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Glengordon01, Glengordon01 agreed to stop editing the page. The RFC and the article talk page have been quiet for several days now. Do you think it's time to unprotect the article? Four weeks seems like a long time for page protection. Cordially, Durova 17:16, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
I posted that as a rhetorical device to try and get across DiLorenzo's sloppy and maddening style. I'm inclined to agree with your view on Lincoln. Hope that didn't come off as overly defensive. Stilgar135 16:40, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
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For the tips on Martin Velíšek! If you get a chance, could you tell me how to get the name links to work, so that all versions of the name, with or without discritics, link there? I can't find instructions on how to do it... Cheers, grendelsmother 16:05, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for some very kind responses to my review. I do decide on GA nominees pretty often. Once you think the article is ready to nominate, drop me a line on my talk page. I'll probably recuse myself from actually deciding on the candidacy, but I'd be glad to give it another once-over just prior to a GA try. Best wishes and keep up the good work, Durova 09:58, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Much information responsive to your excellent suggestions has been added to this article. Would it be possible for you to take a peek at it? More refs are on their way. NorCalHistory 02:36, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Thank you again for your warm encouragement which was extraordinarily helpful. I expect that we will proceed with a good article nomination. I'll keep you up to date! NorCalHistory 10:10, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi how are you? Thanks for your reviews on Indonesia article. I was thinking about your words about GA nomination. Do you think, as the issues have been done, could it pass GA nomination? Because I don't think we can stand for another GA failure, T.T Cheers -- I mo eng 12:42, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments, 'fraid I'm gone though. Good luck. See [1] Gleng 14:44, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. I had good luck as well as bad; editors Dematt and Fyslee are both true stars, amongst many, and it was a priviledge to know them. I'll post an essay sometime on sources. Otherwise, I'll watch and see; I really hope this works, am certainly not sour about the project. All the very best. Gleng 10:59, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
I saw your post on the ACLU talk page. Anything you could do to help out, even just watching the page for vandalism, would be great. Thanks for your input and I hope to see you again. Jasper23 08:31, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I swear, you are everywhere I go. I have been dealing with RFCs, and I see your name alot. I agree with what you say. You are a real help to Wikipedia. I just wanted to thank you personally. You do alot for this site. -- Connor K. 20:34, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Davodd 03:01, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
With reference to your comments at Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)#Editors Who Are Vandals, and Thugs and Ferals, I object strongly to being called a vandal, thug and feral. The anon has failed to respond to the RfC raised in July til now in October, despite contributing regularly to wikipedia since then (her contributions since the RfC have been documented at Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/203.54.*.*, the IPs used by her up to the time of the RfC are listed at the RfC. Her suggestion "I have hardly ever been here." is disingenuous. She has consistently abused me since July. For the time being I will continue my wikibreak until somebody removes the personal attacks she has posted, including at Village Pump.
Despite her assertions on User talk:Thatcher131, I most emphatically do not know that she has "the other verifying info re Coolac", why should I - she has never cited anything in support of the alleged massacre.
The accusations of plagiarism were discussed at Talk:Gundagai, New South Wales#Plagiarism of Bruce Elder.
My issue with her latest contribution about Yarri at Gundagai was its lack of balance, even in the context of the cite provided (I have the Butcher book). In the context of the anon's past edits, she uses the wikipedia as a soapbox (when not attacking it or various editors she has tangled with).
Her response to the RfC did not deal with the issues raised there of her breaches of
I am happy to discuss the efforts I made to bring the editor on board. I did try.-- Golden Wattle talk 10:20, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Another uninvolved editor who responded to the Village Pump appeal even complained that posts to their user talk page got deleted. I have look and can't find where the editor responded and complained. Reason why it was reverted was that it was unsigned and the Anon was block. The Anon is calling me by my name (My old user name and the reason I have changed my name is that I don't want people looking up my phone number as well as address) and I can't edit it out or I will get attacked for removing it.
Personal attacks and assumptions of bad faith are taking place on both sides here. I have never made a personal attack but the Anon has made many personal attacks not just against me but to anyone who doesn't agree with her or proves that she is wrong. The Anon has also vandalised the Wagga Wagga article to make a point [35].
I will be also taking a break until the Anon is dealt with. -- Bidgee 03:08, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
The Nadezhda Durova was brought to my attention by another editor. What an interesting subject! A belated thanks for adding to Wikipedia. A WPMILHIST tag has been added. I've also assessed it at B-class, though I think it is a good candidate for GA. — ERcheck ( talk) 15:29, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I saw you created and made List of notable brain tumor patients a featured list. I was hoping you could have a look at List of HIV-positive people and give me some critique. I only was trying to clean up this list but by now perhaps it could (eventually) become a featured list. Garion96 (talk) 21:44, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Do you mean to say FAC and not FLC? You said the same on the AfD on List of.. Hep C. Colin° Talk 17:12, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
Need it badly? Perhaps not. But there's always lots of things to do that need help, so it's certainly useful. I have looked over your contribs; while I don't know you well enough to nominate you, I would be among the first to support you if you were nominated by yourself or someone else. I'd say go for it. >Radiant< 09:02, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
I have filed a formal request for arbitration regarding the anonymous Gundagai editor. Please make any statements you feel are appropriate. Thatcher131 01:32, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
The Gundagai article antics continue. Did some editing there today, some with Wattle. (Asbestos Hill etc, then the Asbestos). Then along came a stirrer reverting. Then the edits got put back. Then gone again. Then put back. In between a stirring visit or two by the toolbags. Then big threat claiming the cache on my computer loaded old page. This is so silly re my computer as its set to empty when browser closed but I then also empty the Internet files, then 7 times out of 10, clean disk and defrag. <<Just a habit I have. So, the claim that I may have had old cache image was nonsense. Also, the history files were different. Its also set to new page each time I move. So, I got banned, and when I came back, my reply noting all this was also missing off the Gundagai discussion page. I then put it on the Rfc thingy then thought I might let you know also. Its not about me. Its about that they can do this to anyone and it is bullying etc.
Have to go finish an essay due Friday so thanks.
I think I sorted it durova. I will just ignore them. I should have done that from the start. I got some stuf fon page tonight and with no one coming it chipping me or messing stuf fup, it was nice and peaceful plus content got posted on wik. Ty for your support. Its probably been tiring for all but it was pretty bizarre also.
Cheers
On your RfA page you stated with reference to the Gundagia anon dispute I'm concerned about selective enforcement: uncivil behavior on the other side of this dispute has not resulted in warnings or anything else. - Can you please name an instance where I have been uncivil or who you see "the other side as" and who on that "other side" has been uncivil? For example, I also do not believe Bidgee has ever been uncivil. Noting that we had both been to AN/I, actively participated in the RfC, the reversion approach had been documented, .... uncivil is hardly to my mind an appropriate descriptor if reversions are what your areferring to. See for example User talk:203.54.174.219 for an example of exchanges between Bidgee and the anon; I can't see anything to criticise about Bidgee's behaviour, once it is taken as a given that uncivil and unsigned edits and edits by blocked users are reverted; the user was blocked for a week [41] from the IP they edited from on 4 October, they were covered by that block at the time of the reversions you have referred to. I don't really wish to wikilawyer but I am still disturbed at the lack of good faith you continue to show and your public assertions showing that lack of good faith.-- Golden Wattle talk 00:49, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Question 4 - the other editor is User:Bidgee Golden Wattle talk 20:11, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
I don't like being called a vandal when I haven't done anything wrong. -- Bidgee 04:03, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
I've decided to take one more day before deciding on a new statement at ArbCom. On the good side, I'm glad that since your latest block you haven't gotten into any tussles on talk pages. I'm also glad to see what looks like productive editing.
Now here's the problem: up until that block your behavior was pointedly disruptive. The only really blatant incivility I'm seeing is yours. You even lashed out at an administrator who had dropped by the Gungadai talk page to leave a polite note. I'm not very pleased about how you've reposted my statements from this page into other places, using out-of-date comments to imply that I support you when really all I've done is extend the benefit of the doubt. Other comments you made at the ArbCom request look downright defiant.
You've stated that no one ever explained why signing posts is a good idea. Mainly it helps to make threads readable. If nobody signed their posts then it would be very hard to follow where one statement ends and another begins or who posted what. Signing also date stamps information, which makes it easier to check the history of a thread later on. Most editors get into the habit of signing posts after their first week or so. I've read your reason for not signing and here's the catch: Wikipedia has to provide some sort of identifier per the terms of the GDFL contract that all users agree to publish under when people enter information here on any page. Wikipedia really doesn't operate according to your interpretation of Australian Internet privacy law. The way to resolve privacy concerns is to create a fictitious username, which also has the benefit of generating a user page and user talk page. You mentioned above that you wished another editor had introduced himself or herself before commenting about you - well the way to make those introductions possible is to register an account.
The way things are taking shape, I'm changing my mind toward agreeing that arbitration is a good idea. If you haven't done so already I suggest you read up on arbitration and I repeat my recommendation a third and final time that you seek a formal mentorship. The improvement to your editing is a step forward - but only one step - and you've also taken several steps backward. Last week I went out on a limb for you and you've mostly demonstrated that your detractors are right. Fair-to-middling editing work isn't enough to make up for the hassles you're creating for other people. The main goal here is to write an encyclopedia, not to engage in backstage dramatics (and that is what this looks like to me). So if you really want to continue improving your favorite pages I suggest you take this arbitration very seriously and become more responsive to feedback. Respectfully, Durova 02:31, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, Durova, for clarifying your opinions and thoughts both here, at RfAr, and on the RfA page. I just wanted to let you know that I have been reading everything and I appreciate the time and effort you've taken in looking at both sides of the issue. Cheers, Sarah Ewart ( Talk) 03:36, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
Merci for the response on the Humanities board. I think you can explain to others just what I am bringing to their attention. I think it is double-standarded. See here for an example of confusion: Talk:Rachel_Bilson#Jewish_American_father_and_Italian_American_mother.3F.21. Harrison Ford is a good example. He's paternally Irish Catholic Christian and maternally Russian Ashkenazi Jewish. I would accept Jewish as shorthand for Israeli. Hasbro 09:11, 15 October 2006 (UTC)