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Chief Vann House

I deleted the picture of Chief Vann House because it had been on Wikipedia:Copyright problems for well over a week with no objections and was apparently copied from the given source, which was a website of the state government of Georgia. I am acting in accordance with Wikipedia policy on copyrights, as I understand them. If you have a picture of the site that you have taken yourself, please upload it and state its origins clearly, and all should be well. -- rbrwr ± 23:13, 8 August 2005 (UTC) reply

Image copyrights

Hello Chris,

If you have pictures that you have taken yourself that would be useful for illustrating Wikipedia articles, then that is good, and you should feel free to upload them. When you upload them, you should say in the summary that you have taken the pictures yourself. This will make it less likely that anyone will put a copyright violation notice on them. You should also put the image description pages on your watchlist so that if any other user does put a copyright violation notice on them, you will know about it and will be able to explain that they are not copyright violations. If you do this, your pictures will almost certainly not be deleted.

However, if a picture that you upload appears on another website (such as the Georgia State Parks website), other users will assume that you just copied it from that website without permission. In this case you must make it clear who owns the copyright to the picture: if you took the picture and they are using it with your permission, say that; if someone else took the picture and you have permission to use it in Wikipedia, explain how you got permission; if it is a public domain picture (for example, if it is an old picture to which the copyright has expired) say that.

You might like to read Wikipedia's Copyright FAQ and Copyrights pages for more information about copyright on Wikipedia. I hope this helps.

-- rbrwr ± 08:28, 9 August 2005 (UTC) reply

User talk:Cculber007/Talk Archive -- 04:53, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. -- 04:53, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Why don't you try looking at the origin of my user name before you start spewing filth? For someone with an education, that shouldn't be too hard. Do it again and kiss yourself bye-bye. - Lucky 6.9 18:03, 27 November 2005 (UTC) reply

Hi. In response the message on your talkpage, I'm sorry, but I don't see how the other wikipedians here are discriminating against you because you are deaf. It seems that the content you contributed to the Adairsville, Georgia article may have violated our copyright policy . Please refrain from making legal threats, as if you do so, it inhibits our ability to help you further. Also, people are willing to help you, but making edits like these [1] [2] [3] are going to make you lose your credibility, and if you continue to make edits such as these, it will most likely result in your blocking. If you have any questions or need further help, feel free to respond on my talk page. -- BMIComp (talk, HOWS MY DRIVING) 20:23, 27 November 2005 (UTC) reply


Please stop making totally baseless threats to sue people for editing articles in ways you don't like. Please also do not call other users gay (even if they are) or dolts, or allege that they support Adolf Hitler. Conduct like this violates Wikipedia's civility policy and also Wikipedia's policy against personal attacks. Your threats to sue are too ridiculous to actually qualify as legal threats, but you might find yourself blocked for it anyway. If you persist in this behavior, you will almost certainly end up blocked. Kelly Martin ( talk) 06:47, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply

Image Tagging Image:Fannin.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Fannin.jpg. I notice the image page currently doesn't specify who created the image, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created the image yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the image on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the image yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the image also doesn't have a copyright tag then you must also add one. If you created/took the picture then you can use {{ GFDL}} to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the image qualifies as fair use, please read fair use, and then use a tag such as {{ Non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other images, please check that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of image pages you have edited by clicking on the " my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. cohesion talk 22:46, 15 January 2006 (UTC) reply

This picture was given by my friend who was caretaker before he died few years ago. He was well known as photographer since 1940 which was Alton Holtman. He was nicest and sweetest man. He was my former scoutmaster and role model, I thought this picture was served as a memorial. I have no problem with making new pictures of Georgia School for the Deaf Fannin building with marker stood and city of Cave Spring on a planned trip to pay my respect for my late murdered friend's grave in Cave Spring. I will make more pictures and articles for Vann House, Calhoun, New Echota, Rydal, and etc. When I repost new picture with my permission, it will solve your problem. Cculber007

Sure, just be sure to check Wikipedia:Image copyright tags and add them when you upload it. I probably won't personally notice when you upload, it's just that when there is no tag it gets flagged as needing attention, and someone else will probably notice :D - cohesion talk 05:55, 3 February 2006 (UTC) reply

Thanks for uploading Image:Barnsley estate sm.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag then you must also add one. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then you can use {{ GFDL}} to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media qualifies as fair use, please read fair use, and then use a tag such as {{ Non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other media, please check that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the " my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Stan 04:11, 4 February 2006 (UTC) reply

Thanks for uploading Image:9674879Calhoun---gordon-county.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag then you must also add one. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then you can use {{ GFDL}} to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media qualifies as fair use, please read fair use, and then use a tag such as {{ Non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other media, please check that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the " my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Longhair 12:35, 4 February 2006 (UTC) reply

Thanks for uploading Image:Andersonville,ga.JPG. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag then you must also add one. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then you can use {{ GFDL-self}} to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media qualifies as fair use, please read fair use, and then use a tag such as {{ Non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other media, please check that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the " my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Stifle 15:42, 17 February 2006 (UTC) reply

Removing comments from talk pages

Please note that it is considered bad form to remove content from your talk page. If it is getting too long, you can move the old comments to an archive but you should never blank them, as it may be construed as trying to hide or avoid criticism. Stifle 15:44, 17 February 2006 (UTC) reply

Image Tagging for Image:Andersonville,ga.JPG

Thanks for uploading Image:Andersonville,ga.JPG. The image has been identified as not specifying the source and creator of the image, which is required by Wikipedia's policy on images. If you don't indicate the source and creator of the image on the image's description page, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided source information for them as well.

This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see User talk:Carnildo/images. 02:15, 17 March 2006 (UTC) reply

Image Tagging for Image:Ne_monument_sm.jpg

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Cover Girl?

Umm, could you be a little more specific in which article I forgot to mention Cover Girl? Thanks. -- Destron Commander 03:04, 5 May 2006 (UTC) reply


from Poland

Thank you for your information on New Echota update and your other plans. It is nice to see your computerized "Polish" translation effort, but you can use English in the future, if you wish. I will watch Cherokee-related and other "Native American" articles on Engish/American Wikipedia as I am interested in the history, culture and contemporary live of native peoples of Americas and work on related Polish entries (in fact, I am also a co-editor of Polish "Tawacin" quaterly magazine on a range of Natve American issues, and an "Indian fan", but I am not a wannabie).

By the way, your computerized "name translation" as "Christopher Przyciska (blokuje) Zespalająersyn (Polish)" unfortunately makes no sense in Polish. It seems most English names and family names are as hard to translate, as Polish (they are not descriptive, as most Native American names are). There are of course Polish versions of Christopher and James, as well as "the son of" sufix, but you would be called simply by your English names in Poland. You can remove this "mistranslation", or write just for fun that if you are Polish, you could be "Krzysztof Jakub Kulberski" (but it's a speculation only).

Greetings from Cień=the Shadow. Cien 09:47, 23 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Image

I realise you think the image help illustrates the article, thus being needed still. However, I am going to shrink the image resolution. Under the Copyright Act of 1976, 17 U.S.C. § 107, I believe that anything higher resolution needed for illustration is a violation of our rights for fair use. Also, I do not think this called for a disruptive, possibly personal attack, edit summary removing the speedy deletion template. Just a friendly reminder that regardless of age, we are all equal Wikipedians. // Ae: æ 14:49, 26 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Civility

Regarding this edit: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. -- InShaneee 22:15, 26 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Additionally: Please do not add commercial links (or links to your own private websites) to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or a mere collection of external links. You are, however, encouraged to add content instead of links to the encyclopedia. If you feel the link should be added to the article please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thanks. -- InShaneee 22:21, 26 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Firstly, removing warnings is considered vandalism and a sign of bad faith. Secondly, saying "X is my enemy is not appropriate anywhere on wikipedia. Consider this your last warning. -- InShaneee 01:17, 27 June 2006 (UTC) reply
Please stop. If you continue to remove warning messages from your talk page, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Thanks, and happy editing!-- Where 02:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC) reply

You have now been blocked indefinatly for making legal threats and claiming falsely that you have some sort of authority from "wikipedia", as you did here. -- InShaneee 17:14, 27 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Welcome back!

Welcome back to Wikipedia! Just remember to comply with WP:NLT, WP:CIVIL, and WP:NPA, and you will do fine. Happy editing! :) -- Where 04:34, 23 July 2006 (UTC) reply

Please note that warnings are sanctioned by WP. Also see WP:NLT. Thanks and happy editing! -- Where 03:03, 27 June 2006 (UTC) reply


Thanks

Thanks for the info regarding Goody's Family Clothing. The Punk 04:56, 11 August 2006 (UTC) reply

License tagging for Image:DowntownRome.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:DowntownRome.jpg. Wikipedia gets thousands of images uploaded every day, and in order to verify that the images can be legally used on Wikipedia, the source and copyright status must be indicated. Images need to have an image tag applied to the image description page indicating the copyright status of the image. This uniform and easy-to-understand method of indicating the license status allows potential re-users of the images to know what they are allowed to do with the images.

For more information on using images, see the following pages:

This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. If you need help on selecting a tag to use, or in adding the tag to the image description, feel free to post a message at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. 04:05, 12 August 2006 (UTC) I forgot to tag this picture as self-photographed so I fixed it. - Cculber007

Samuel Worcester

Hey there! I am Terrill White and I don't mind co-authoring with you on the Samuel Worcester article! I am part Cherokee and live in Tahlequah, OK, the capital of the Cherokee Nation. I have a lot of information regarding the Cherokee that I hope to get up soon! Also, just for your information, most Cherokee's that I have come in contact with, (take it from me, I know a lot of Cherokee's - I work for the tribe) despise the word Native American. They actually prefer to be called Indian. Just wanted to let you know! Nice making your acquaintance! Terrillwhite 06:08, 8 September 2006 (UTC) reply

Fair use rationale for Image:Wickedwanda.jpg

Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:Wickedwanda.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use. Suggestions on how to do so can be found here.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the " my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Bigr Tex 18:41, 2 August 2007 (UTC) reply

Oak Hill Berry Museum (Resolved)

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Oak Hill Berry Museum, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also " What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you endorse deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add {{ db-author}} to the top of the page. DGG ( talk) 03:42, 19 November 2007 (UTC) reply

more in Polish?

Thanx for your reminder on Polish Wikipedia. I will consider writing on Samuel Worcester and other Cherokee or Georgia related entries. It is a question of time, as I am a quite busy member of our Arbitration Committee now. Greetings. Cien ( talk) 09:05, 21 November 2007 (UTC) reply

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Libertyno1.jpg

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If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted within a couple of days according to our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you. BetacommandBot ( talk) 14:56, 2 January 2008 (UTC) reply

Category:Deaf Wikipedians

A tag has been placed on Category:Deaf Wikipedians, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion debate, such as articles for deletion. If you can indicate how Category:Deaf Wikipedians is different from the previously posted material, or if you can indicate why this article should not be deleted, I advise you to place the template {{ hangon}} underneath the other template on the article, and also put a note on [[Talk:Category:Deaf Wikipedians]] saying why this article should stay. An admin should check for such edits before deleting the article. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Please read our criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 4 under General criteria. If you believe the original discussion was unjustified, please feel free to use deletion review, but do not continue to repost the article if it is deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. We welcome your help in trying to improve Wikipedia, and we request you to follow these instructions. Terraxos ( talk) 03:29, 6 January 2008 (UTC) reply

If you're wondering, Category:Deaf Wikipedians (along with other user categories related to physical conditions) was deleted following a past deletion discussion here: Wikipedia:User_categories_for_discussion/Archive/July_2007#Category:Wikipedians by physiological condition and all subcats. Terraxos ( talk) 03:31, 6 January 2008 (UTC) reply

Category:Deaf Wikipedians, Part 2

Actually, I agree with you. I think this category should be allowed to exist, and I'm sorry I got it deleted. But Wikipedia's rules are that if something has been deleted in the past, it can't be created again unless it passes a Deletion Review. I suggest you go there if you want to try to get this decision overturned. Terraxos ( talk) 12:17, 7 January 2008 (UTC) reply

January 2008 (Vampirella/Tenebrae issue)

Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not on User talk:Tenebrae. Thank you. Please be civil in your comments towards other editors, and in edit summaries, per WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA. Edits such as this and this are not acceptable, even if you are correct. Seicer ( talk) ( contribs) 15:07, 12 January 2008 (UTC) + ::please stop satakin og ther usesrs. Smith Jones ( talk) 17:16, 12 January 2008 (UTC) reply

Smith Jones and Mispellings

please types clearlyt when you put stuff on ym talk page i cant understadn what you are writing on my talk page and it is very confusing. thank you for your time.Smith Jones (talk) 22:48, 12 January 2008 (UTC) Smith Jones (talk) 22:48, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

January 2008 (Bad Example of Seicer)

Constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, but a recent edit of yours to the article User talk:Cculber007 has an edit summary that appears to be inaccurate or inappropriate. Please use edit summaries that accurately tell other editors what you did, and feel free to use the sandbox for any tests you may want to do. Thank you. Edit summaries such as this apply bad faith upon other editors, similar to refactoring headers in applying bad faith here and here. Well noted, for which you have been warned and blocked for in the past. Let's not keep making the same mistakes. Seicer ( talk) ( contribs) 23:12, 12 January 2008 (UTC) reply

Additional from Secier

Wow, that's long. Per WP:VANDAL: "If you find that another user has vandalized Wikipedia, you should revert the changes and warn the user (see below for specific instructions). Users who vandalize Wikipedia repeatedly, despite warnings to stop, should be reported to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism, and administrators may block them."
Note that it states that a user, not administrator, may approperiate the warnings. If an administrator agrees with the warning templates, which are required before report to WP:AIV or WP:ANI (and etc.), then you could be blocked. I'm not an administrator, but I can easily report vandals, those involved in an edit war, etc. to the appropriate noticeboard for resolution. Your last sentence pretty much sums up your belief and outlook for WP, which is quite sad and highly undesireable; you should always have good faith no matter what. Seicer ( talk) ( contribs) 22:29, 12 January 2008 (UTC) reply

He made list of AGF issues which are not right and two emails from him -

On Jan 12, 2008 6:20 PM, Seicer wrote: Go right on ahead. I wouldn't have made the Mediation Committee yesterday if it was not for my good faith edits throughout the years.

Please report me to AIV, ANI, etc. if you wish.

Cculber007 wrote: That is not vandalism, that is my complaint. I think I contact Wikipedia about your bad faith. I am not accepting that you think I vandalised your pages but you vandalised my pages. I get news for you, You are not right person for Wikipedia. Remove vandalism words and changing to correct. if not, I will call you as vandalism on my pages.

On Jan 12, 2008 6:26 PM, Seicer wrote: No thank you.
CCulber007@aol.com wrote:

"You start to make a fire, you do not want to finish this fire but you want to bring more fires."

It means you do not want to solve the problem, you want to start flame war against me instead of others. I think you has something against me as a deaf person. This is last time, changing your comments in your pages from vandalism to complaints. If they are spams and vandalism then Wikipedia is deaf discrimination. Do a right things and solve them will give you a chance of Mediation Committee.

He chose to not solve the problem and stand on wrong side. That was not vandalism, it was compalint/comment

Another incorrect threat (Formerly incorrect "Reminder")

- Please do not attack other editors, which you did here: User_talk:Tenebrae. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Regarding your message which refers to a dispute with an image at the Vampirella article, please avoid such language in the future. All the best, Hiding T 21:19, 13 January 2008 (UTC) reply

Request

Hello, User:Cculber007. I have noticed from your talk page that you are a fan of or have an interest in The Smurfs series. There is currently a discussion concerning the merging of all individual articles on Smurf video games into one bigger article. I do not believe that any of the editors involved in the discussion (myself included) know much about the games and I was hoping you could provide us with the benefit of your opinion as an editor knowledgeable about the subject. If you are not interested in helping or if you believe yourself incapable at this time then please disregard this message. The discussion is currently under way here. Thanks for your time. - Thibbs ( talk) 21:06, 9 January 2009 (UTC) reply

Re the fair use rationale and your message on QCoder's talkpage

  1. Heard of assume good faith?
  2. It was a simple mistake - see above
  3. It was an automated message, which is why it got left at the bottom
  4. A talkpage should not have a comments section, because a talkpage is a comments section. If you want somebody to go back to the "school of laws", that should be you. A talkpage is not to be used as a dumping ground for userboxes and galleries.
  5. Read the tag on the image. It's non-free; it should be of as small a resolution as possible. The image you've uploaded is a full-page scan I could use as a wallpaper.

In future, try not to scream about ABUSE OF POWER over mistakes made by the other guy in good faith, and mistakes made by you despite warnings. Ironholds ( talk) 09:27, 6 October 2010 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Welcome!

Hello, Cculber007/Talk Archive, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! By the way, please be sure to sign your name on Talk and vote pages using four tildes (~~~~) to produce your name and the current date, or three tildes (~~~) for just your name. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! -- Wikiacc (talk) 19:53, July 26, 2005 (UTC)

Chief Vann House

I deleted the picture of Chief Vann House because it had been on Wikipedia:Copyright problems for well over a week with no objections and was apparently copied from the given source, which was a website of the state government of Georgia. I am acting in accordance with Wikipedia policy on copyrights, as I understand them. If you have a picture of the site that you have taken yourself, please upload it and state its origins clearly, and all should be well. -- rbrwr ± 23:13, 8 August 2005 (UTC) reply

Image copyrights

Hello Chris,

If you have pictures that you have taken yourself that would be useful for illustrating Wikipedia articles, then that is good, and you should feel free to upload them. When you upload them, you should say in the summary that you have taken the pictures yourself. This will make it less likely that anyone will put a copyright violation notice on them. You should also put the image description pages on your watchlist so that if any other user does put a copyright violation notice on them, you will know about it and will be able to explain that they are not copyright violations. If you do this, your pictures will almost certainly not be deleted.

However, if a picture that you upload appears on another website (such as the Georgia State Parks website), other users will assume that you just copied it from that website without permission. In this case you must make it clear who owns the copyright to the picture: if you took the picture and they are using it with your permission, say that; if someone else took the picture and you have permission to use it in Wikipedia, explain how you got permission; if it is a public domain picture (for example, if it is an old picture to which the copyright has expired) say that.

You might like to read Wikipedia's Copyright FAQ and Copyrights pages for more information about copyright on Wikipedia. I hope this helps.

-- rbrwr ± 08:28, 9 August 2005 (UTC) reply

User talk:Cculber007/Talk Archive -- 04:53, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. -- 04:53, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Why don't you try looking at the origin of my user name before you start spewing filth? For someone with an education, that shouldn't be too hard. Do it again and kiss yourself bye-bye. - Lucky 6.9 18:03, 27 November 2005 (UTC) reply

Hi. In response the message on your talkpage, I'm sorry, but I don't see how the other wikipedians here are discriminating against you because you are deaf. It seems that the content you contributed to the Adairsville, Georgia article may have violated our copyright policy . Please refrain from making legal threats, as if you do so, it inhibits our ability to help you further. Also, people are willing to help you, but making edits like these [1] [2] [3] are going to make you lose your credibility, and if you continue to make edits such as these, it will most likely result in your blocking. If you have any questions or need further help, feel free to respond on my talk page. -- BMIComp (talk, HOWS MY DRIVING) 20:23, 27 November 2005 (UTC) reply


Please stop making totally baseless threats to sue people for editing articles in ways you don't like. Please also do not call other users gay (even if they are) or dolts, or allege that they support Adolf Hitler. Conduct like this violates Wikipedia's civility policy and also Wikipedia's policy against personal attacks. Your threats to sue are too ridiculous to actually qualify as legal threats, but you might find yourself blocked for it anyway. If you persist in this behavior, you will almost certainly end up blocked. Kelly Martin ( talk) 06:47, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply

Image Tagging Image:Fannin.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Fannin.jpg. I notice the image page currently doesn't specify who created the image, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created the image yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the image on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the image yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the image also doesn't have a copyright tag then you must also add one. If you created/took the picture then you can use {{ GFDL}} to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the image qualifies as fair use, please read fair use, and then use a tag such as {{ Non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other images, please check that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of image pages you have edited by clicking on the " my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. cohesion talk 22:46, 15 January 2006 (UTC) reply

This picture was given by my friend who was caretaker before he died few years ago. He was well known as photographer since 1940 which was Alton Holtman. He was nicest and sweetest man. He was my former scoutmaster and role model, I thought this picture was served as a memorial. I have no problem with making new pictures of Georgia School for the Deaf Fannin building with marker stood and city of Cave Spring on a planned trip to pay my respect for my late murdered friend's grave in Cave Spring. I will make more pictures and articles for Vann House, Calhoun, New Echota, Rydal, and etc. When I repost new picture with my permission, it will solve your problem. Cculber007

Sure, just be sure to check Wikipedia:Image copyright tags and add them when you upload it. I probably won't personally notice when you upload, it's just that when there is no tag it gets flagged as needing attention, and someone else will probably notice :D - cohesion talk 05:55, 3 February 2006 (UTC) reply

Thanks for uploading Image:Barnsley estate sm.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.

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Thanks for uploading Image:9674879Calhoun---gordon-county.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.

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If you have uploaded other media, please check that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the " my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Longhair 12:35, 4 February 2006 (UTC) reply

Thanks for uploading Image:Andersonville,ga.JPG. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag then you must also add one. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then you can use {{ GFDL-self}} to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media qualifies as fair use, please read fair use, and then use a tag such as {{ Non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

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Removing comments from talk pages

Please note that it is considered bad form to remove content from your talk page. If it is getting too long, you can move the old comments to an archive but you should never blank them, as it may be construed as trying to hide or avoid criticism. Stifle 15:44, 17 February 2006 (UTC) reply

Image Tagging for Image:Andersonville,ga.JPG

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Image Tagging for Image:Ne_monument_sm.jpg

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Cover Girl?

Umm, could you be a little more specific in which article I forgot to mention Cover Girl? Thanks. -- Destron Commander 03:04, 5 May 2006 (UTC) reply


from Poland

Thank you for your information on New Echota update and your other plans. It is nice to see your computerized "Polish" translation effort, but you can use English in the future, if you wish. I will watch Cherokee-related and other "Native American" articles on Engish/American Wikipedia as I am interested in the history, culture and contemporary live of native peoples of Americas and work on related Polish entries (in fact, I am also a co-editor of Polish "Tawacin" quaterly magazine on a range of Natve American issues, and an "Indian fan", but I am not a wannabie).

By the way, your computerized "name translation" as "Christopher Przyciska (blokuje) Zespalająersyn (Polish)" unfortunately makes no sense in Polish. It seems most English names and family names are as hard to translate, as Polish (they are not descriptive, as most Native American names are). There are of course Polish versions of Christopher and James, as well as "the son of" sufix, but you would be called simply by your English names in Poland. You can remove this "mistranslation", or write just for fun that if you are Polish, you could be "Krzysztof Jakub Kulberski" (but it's a speculation only).

Greetings from Cień=the Shadow. Cien 09:47, 23 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Image

I realise you think the image help illustrates the article, thus being needed still. However, I am going to shrink the image resolution. Under the Copyright Act of 1976, 17 U.S.C. § 107, I believe that anything higher resolution needed for illustration is a violation of our rights for fair use. Also, I do not think this called for a disruptive, possibly personal attack, edit summary removing the speedy deletion template. Just a friendly reminder that regardless of age, we are all equal Wikipedians. // Ae: æ 14:49, 26 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Civility

Regarding this edit: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. -- InShaneee 22:15, 26 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Additionally: Please do not add commercial links (or links to your own private websites) to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or a mere collection of external links. You are, however, encouraged to add content instead of links to the encyclopedia. If you feel the link should be added to the article please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thanks. -- InShaneee 22:21, 26 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Firstly, removing warnings is considered vandalism and a sign of bad faith. Secondly, saying "X is my enemy is not appropriate anywhere on wikipedia. Consider this your last warning. -- InShaneee 01:17, 27 June 2006 (UTC) reply
Please stop. If you continue to remove warning messages from your talk page, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Thanks, and happy editing!-- Where 02:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC) reply

You have now been blocked indefinatly for making legal threats and claiming falsely that you have some sort of authority from "wikipedia", as you did here. -- InShaneee 17:14, 27 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Welcome back!

Welcome back to Wikipedia! Just remember to comply with WP:NLT, WP:CIVIL, and WP:NPA, and you will do fine. Happy editing! :) -- Where 04:34, 23 July 2006 (UTC) reply

Please note that warnings are sanctioned by WP. Also see WP:NLT. Thanks and happy editing! -- Where 03:03, 27 June 2006 (UTC) reply


Thanks

Thanks for the info regarding Goody's Family Clothing. The Punk 04:56, 11 August 2006 (UTC) reply

License tagging for Image:DowntownRome.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:DowntownRome.jpg. Wikipedia gets thousands of images uploaded every day, and in order to verify that the images can be legally used on Wikipedia, the source and copyright status must be indicated. Images need to have an image tag applied to the image description page indicating the copyright status of the image. This uniform and easy-to-understand method of indicating the license status allows potential re-users of the images to know what they are allowed to do with the images.

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This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. If you need help on selecting a tag to use, or in adding the tag to the image description, feel free to post a message at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. 04:05, 12 August 2006 (UTC) I forgot to tag this picture as self-photographed so I fixed it. - Cculber007

Samuel Worcester

Hey there! I am Terrill White and I don't mind co-authoring with you on the Samuel Worcester article! I am part Cherokee and live in Tahlequah, OK, the capital of the Cherokee Nation. I have a lot of information regarding the Cherokee that I hope to get up soon! Also, just for your information, most Cherokee's that I have come in contact with, (take it from me, I know a lot of Cherokee's - I work for the tribe) despise the word Native American. They actually prefer to be called Indian. Just wanted to let you know! Nice making your acquaintance! Terrillwhite 06:08, 8 September 2006 (UTC) reply

Fair use rationale for Image:Wickedwanda.jpg

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Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the " my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Bigr Tex 18:41, 2 August 2007 (UTC) reply

Oak Hill Berry Museum (Resolved)

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Oak Hill Berry Museum, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also " What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you endorse deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add {{ db-author}} to the top of the page. DGG ( talk) 03:42, 19 November 2007 (UTC) reply

more in Polish?

Thanx for your reminder on Polish Wikipedia. I will consider writing on Samuel Worcester and other Cherokee or Georgia related entries. It is a question of time, as I am a quite busy member of our Arbitration Committee now. Greetings. Cien ( talk) 09:05, 21 November 2007 (UTC) reply

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Libertyno1.jpg

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Category:Deaf Wikipedians

A tag has been placed on Category:Deaf Wikipedians, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion debate, such as articles for deletion. If you can indicate how Category:Deaf Wikipedians is different from the previously posted material, or if you can indicate why this article should not be deleted, I advise you to place the template {{ hangon}} underneath the other template on the article, and also put a note on [[Talk:Category:Deaf Wikipedians]] saying why this article should stay. An admin should check for such edits before deleting the article. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Please read our criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 4 under General criteria. If you believe the original discussion was unjustified, please feel free to use deletion review, but do not continue to repost the article if it is deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. We welcome your help in trying to improve Wikipedia, and we request you to follow these instructions. Terraxos ( talk) 03:29, 6 January 2008 (UTC) reply

If you're wondering, Category:Deaf Wikipedians (along with other user categories related to physical conditions) was deleted following a past deletion discussion here: Wikipedia:User_categories_for_discussion/Archive/July_2007#Category:Wikipedians by physiological condition and all subcats. Terraxos ( talk) 03:31, 6 January 2008 (UTC) reply

Category:Deaf Wikipedians, Part 2

Actually, I agree with you. I think this category should be allowed to exist, and I'm sorry I got it deleted. But Wikipedia's rules are that if something has been deleted in the past, it can't be created again unless it passes a Deletion Review. I suggest you go there if you want to try to get this decision overturned. Terraxos ( talk) 12:17, 7 January 2008 (UTC) reply

January 2008 (Vampirella/Tenebrae issue)

Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not on User talk:Tenebrae. Thank you. Please be civil in your comments towards other editors, and in edit summaries, per WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA. Edits such as this and this are not acceptable, even if you are correct. Seicer ( talk) ( contribs) 15:07, 12 January 2008 (UTC) + ::please stop satakin og ther usesrs. Smith Jones ( talk) 17:16, 12 January 2008 (UTC) reply

Smith Jones and Mispellings

please types clearlyt when you put stuff on ym talk page i cant understadn what you are writing on my talk page and it is very confusing. thank you for your time.Smith Jones (talk) 22:48, 12 January 2008 (UTC) Smith Jones (talk) 22:48, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

January 2008 (Bad Example of Seicer)

Constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, but a recent edit of yours to the article User talk:Cculber007 has an edit summary that appears to be inaccurate or inappropriate. Please use edit summaries that accurately tell other editors what you did, and feel free to use the sandbox for any tests you may want to do. Thank you. Edit summaries such as this apply bad faith upon other editors, similar to refactoring headers in applying bad faith here and here. Well noted, for which you have been warned and blocked for in the past. Let's not keep making the same mistakes. Seicer ( talk) ( contribs) 23:12, 12 January 2008 (UTC) reply

Additional from Secier

Wow, that's long. Per WP:VANDAL: "If you find that another user has vandalized Wikipedia, you should revert the changes and warn the user (see below for specific instructions). Users who vandalize Wikipedia repeatedly, despite warnings to stop, should be reported to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism, and administrators may block them."
Note that it states that a user, not administrator, may approperiate the warnings. If an administrator agrees with the warning templates, which are required before report to WP:AIV or WP:ANI (and etc.), then you could be blocked. I'm not an administrator, but I can easily report vandals, those involved in an edit war, etc. to the appropriate noticeboard for resolution. Your last sentence pretty much sums up your belief and outlook for WP, which is quite sad and highly undesireable; you should always have good faith no matter what. Seicer ( talk) ( contribs) 22:29, 12 January 2008 (UTC) reply

He made list of AGF issues which are not right and two emails from him -

On Jan 12, 2008 6:20 PM, Seicer wrote: Go right on ahead. I wouldn't have made the Mediation Committee yesterday if it was not for my good faith edits throughout the years.

Please report me to AIV, ANI, etc. if you wish.

Cculber007 wrote: That is not vandalism, that is my complaint. I think I contact Wikipedia about your bad faith. I am not accepting that you think I vandalised your pages but you vandalised my pages. I get news for you, You are not right person for Wikipedia. Remove vandalism words and changing to correct. if not, I will call you as vandalism on my pages.

On Jan 12, 2008 6:26 PM, Seicer wrote: No thank you.
CCulber007@aol.com wrote:

"You start to make a fire, you do not want to finish this fire but you want to bring more fires."

It means you do not want to solve the problem, you want to start flame war against me instead of others. I think you has something against me as a deaf person. This is last time, changing your comments in your pages from vandalism to complaints. If they are spams and vandalism then Wikipedia is deaf discrimination. Do a right things and solve them will give you a chance of Mediation Committee.

He chose to not solve the problem and stand on wrong side. That was not vandalism, it was compalint/comment

Another incorrect threat (Formerly incorrect "Reminder")

- Please do not attack other editors, which you did here: User_talk:Tenebrae. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Regarding your message which refers to a dispute with an image at the Vampirella article, please avoid such language in the future. All the best, Hiding T 21:19, 13 January 2008 (UTC) reply

Request

Hello, User:Cculber007. I have noticed from your talk page that you are a fan of or have an interest in The Smurfs series. There is currently a discussion concerning the merging of all individual articles on Smurf video games into one bigger article. I do not believe that any of the editors involved in the discussion (myself included) know much about the games and I was hoping you could provide us with the benefit of your opinion as an editor knowledgeable about the subject. If you are not interested in helping or if you believe yourself incapable at this time then please disregard this message. The discussion is currently under way here. Thanks for your time. - Thibbs ( talk) 21:06, 9 January 2009 (UTC) reply

Re the fair use rationale and your message on QCoder's talkpage

  1. Heard of assume good faith?
  2. It was a simple mistake - see above
  3. It was an automated message, which is why it got left at the bottom
  4. A talkpage should not have a comments section, because a talkpage is a comments section. If you want somebody to go back to the "school of laws", that should be you. A talkpage is not to be used as a dumping ground for userboxes and galleries.
  5. Read the tag on the image. It's non-free; it should be of as small a resolution as possible. The image you've uploaded is a full-page scan I could use as a wallpaper.

In future, try not to scream about ABUSE OF POWER over mistakes made by the other guy in good faith, and mistakes made by you despite warnings. Ironholds ( talk) 09:27, 6 October 2010 (UTC) reply


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