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Welcome to Wikipedia, Begoon! I am PrincessofLlyr and have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page or by typing {{ helpme}} at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Also, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); that should automatically produce your username and the date after your post. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{ helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome!
PrincessofLlyr royal court 12:09, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
I see you seem to be very concerned that your comments won't be given due consideration. From my experience one key way to add weight to your comments is by developing a good history on mainspace edits. Regards.-- Cube lurker ( talk) 17:23, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm from this school, and I'm trying to help to keep the page clean. I have it on an RSS feed on my computer. I was the one who made the page to look as large as it is, so please don't give me any warnings. I care about my school! Thanks Again. Michael —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.95.228.22 ( talk) 10:32, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Hello, per your request, I've granted you Rollback rights! Just remember:
--I also granted you the reviewer permission for the upcoming flagged revs trial. Take a look at that link to get to know it and let me know if you don't want it (some people are refusing it in protest). Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 06:38, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
({: (mustache) — Tommy 2010 13:49, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
This was such a mess that I looked back through the history and found that nothing constructive, but a great deal unpleasant and unconstructive, had happened since April, and decided the best thing to do was to delete it and restore only the revisions up to that point. I have noted what I have done on the talk page. I have also extended the semi-protection to August, which should take us past the end of the school term, when with luck the vandals will have something else on what passes for their minds. I don't think there's any point adding {{pp-semi-protected}} - anyone who tries to edit will see a notice anyway. ({{pp-protected}} will only display on a fully-protected page). Regards, JohnCD ( talk) 09:35, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Done. Thank you for this svg-"upgrade" (Maybe, we will just delete raster version) -- AS sa 20:40, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I've partially copied your vector.css, but I'm expanding the search suggestions in a different way, with a little hack for IE, because otherwise I was able to click only on the left side of the search box in order to type something. With your solution I have to click in the upper half of the search box, in IE. Can you take a look at User:Virgolette/vector.css please? Any advice will be really helpful. Thanks. -- Virgolette ( talk) 20:42, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
/* ugly IE hack */ #simpleSearch label { display:none !important; }
which is even more of a hack because it hides it completely !!
Apart from that, as I say - your solution is much simpler and elegant than mine anyway.
I also use
// START focus in search bar when ANY page loaded addOnloadHook(function() { document.getElementById("searchInput").focus(); });
in my vector.js to give the search bar focus on each page load, but you may not want/like that. - Begoon ( talk) 01:48, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the answer! Few things:
.page-Special_Search div.suggestions { margin-left: 11em !important; }
That's all for now. Bye and thanks again. -- Virgolette ( talk) 12:58, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
#simpleSearch label { visibility: hidden; }
I get the non-disappearing label bug in both IE and Chrome - that's why I've hidden it. - Begoon ( talk) 13:14, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
ok - I took your entire vector.css and copied it into IE8 to make changes in preview
I made the label colour blue so I could see what was happening, and this makes the label invisible in IE8 for me:
/* Ugly IE8 hack. I need this to make the search box clickable. Probably not working with JS gadgets like 'Focus the cursor in the search bar' */ #simpleSearch input#searchInput { z-index: 99 !important; } #simpleSearch label { letter-spacing: 1.2em; z-index: 0 !important; color: blue !important; filter: alpha(opacity=0) !important ; }
I could control the opacity all the way from 0 to 100 like that
but display:none !important works for me (needs !important to override inline style) in IE8
and visibility:hidden works (with or without !important) for me too in IE8, so who knows what result you'll get...
- Begoon (
talk) 15:03, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
For opacity you need to target all the browsers differently, I think: linky
filter:alpha(opacity=0); -moz-opacity:0; -khtml-opacity: 0; opacity: 0;
- Begoon ( talk) 04:12, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
It was NOT vandalism! I added two to three sentences to the plot line, which was neglected. Please check again before you accuse me of vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.120.25.229 ( talk) 15:18, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Was the next edit after that with "(my apologies - error)" meant for me? If that's the case then my apologies, back to you. Was in a rush to defend myself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.120.25.229 ( talk) 15:20, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Yes it was meant for you. I reverted my edit within 30 seconds and apologised to you in the edit summary both at the page and on your talk page. I'm apologising again, since you may have missed the other two. It was an error on my part, and I hope it hasn't upset you too much. Mistakes happen, but I'm never happy when I make them. As to checking - yes you are correct, I checked too late. You certainly have no need to apologise back. I remove vandalism, and bad edits with a semi-automated tool, and occasionally I make errors. On this occasion, you may laugh, I assumed, without checking properly, that your edit was to a biblical book, rather than the movie. As soon as I realised my stupidity, I corrected my mistake.
I do hope you will continue to contribute to Wikipedia despite my idiotic revert of your edit - and thank you for taking the time to discuss this - Begoon ( talk) 15:30, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
No worries, mistakes happen when we're only human :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.120.25.229 ( talk) 15:36, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Thank you very much for being so understanding. I took the liberty of having a quick glance at your edits, and I certainly would not wish to upset an editor who is making such a positive contribution to the encyclopaedia. If there's ever anything I can assist you with - please let me know here, and I'll be happy to help - Begoon ( talk) 15:44, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
The SVG Barnstar | ||
For speedily replacing my JPG with an SVG, and for all of your other fine work with images. VernoWhitney ( talk) 17:37, 9 June 2010 (UTC) |
Why thank you sir, I'm honoured. Happy I could help. :-) - Begoon ( talk) 17:55, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for catching it on Royal Australian Navy. :) -- saberwyn 22:45, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
I'm responding to your message on my talk page, I understand you have reasons for removing my link, but how was my edit "reverting established editors"? — JonathanDP81 ( Talk | contribs) 11:38, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
hi, i agree with the idea of neutral, that is why i contributed, the negative is all that is represented in these sections (how many times can you use the word abuse and talk of the family without using the word love?). i also understand this is an encyclopedia, however, it is a major resource for people looking to understand and learn, without multiple views it becomes not a good resource. i can participate in the discussion, my concern is that there isn't any.
also, i do have an account but forgot to log in, is there a way to link them after the fact? i know this is a tech question, but thought you might know.
thank you, elisa
article:incest —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.164.82.131 ( talk) 18:16, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Bejinhan
Talk 06:56, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Begoon! I appreciate the question, but could you clarify what you mean by "assess"? I just want to make sure that I answer the question correctly. Cheers. :) Theleftorium (talk) 16:28, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Appreciate the courtesy and agree with your Rolling Stones edit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.224.219.195 ( talk) 08:09, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your contribution to my Rfa. I have made a comment about it at User talk:JamesBWatson#Your Request for Adminship which you are, of course, very welcome to read if you wish to. JamesBWatson ( talk) 14:39, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
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Hi, I added two more links which include articles from people(Mr. Williamson and Mrs. Frohlick) who have very good knowledge about Joan's life. In their article, they prove that she was not raped. One of the reasons is Joan's own sayings and another is mistranslation of Isambart's words mentioned by Pernoud in his book.I am going to a new house, so i wont access to net for some days and i wont be able to take part in the discussion.-- Joan2011 ( talk) 20:45, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Can I add the reasons that prove her virginity without removing that sentence(e.g her words that her body was never corrupted and mistranslation of Isambart's words)?-- Joan2011 ( talk) 06:23, 24 June 2010 (UTC) |
I'm copying this to the article discussion page, because that really is the place to continue it - splitting the discussion between there and here will not help achieve consensus. Please continue the discussion at Talk:Joan_of_Arc#Was_she_raped. Thanks - Begoon ( talk) 09:34, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
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Please stop. If you continue to blank out or delete portions of page content, templates or other materials from Wikipedia, as you did to Plainwell, MI, you may be blocked from editing. You are vandalizing the page by blanking entire sections and violating 3RR —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.120.170.5 ( talk) 14:38, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Re this diff: Glad it made you smile :) That was part of the intent of course, and also to reductio ad absurdum a bit the oppose votes, which I think are ridiculous. People are afraid of him being a temporary admin? That just doesn't make any logical sense. And opposition based on lack of edits to en.wiki? Admin bits are about trust. This guy's an admin on two other projects, and those projects haven't gone to pieces from his presence as an admin there. I also think the oppose based on his unwillingness to use ALL the admin tools is so far out of logic as to be hysterical. -- Hammersoft ( talk) 17:20, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
I've taken the liberty of reconstructing the old conversation (from page history) below.
I'd be grateful if we could discuss this here, since you don't seem to like leaving discussions on your talk page, and I'd like other input too.
I've noticed you're still using {{Div col}} on many articles, despite it not working in IE/Opera.
I think it's important, where we can, that we support all browsers, as best we can, so to that end, I've just altered around a dozen of these which you added recently - there are, I think, more.
I do understand that doing this as you are improves the articles for Mozilla based browsers, and has no detrimental effect on the others - but it just seems such a waste if it could be done cross-browser to start with. The articles look so much better after your edits in Mozilla browsers, that it's a real shame IE/Opera users don't see the improvement.
Here's an idea - if the problem from your point of view is that the cross-browser alternative is unwieldy and awkward - maybe we can come up with a template that makes it easier to implement - just a thought - I'm not sure how practical that is without looking into it. A very quick look shows me that: Template:Multicol might be an easier option, though it still requires manually signalling column ends, like this:
{{Multicol}} This text appears in the first column. {{Multicol-break}} This text appears in the second column. {{Multicol-break}} This text appears in the third column. {{Multicol-end}}
You can have any number of columns. Each column will be the same width, equally dividing the available horizontal space. Each column has a small right margin (20 pixels), creating a "gutter" that prevents text in one column from touching text in the column to its right.
The previous discussion is below - I've invited the other editor to comment - I think it's important to get as broad a view as we can.
thanks - Begoon ( talk) 16:45, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
PREVIOUS DISCUSSION:
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from this diff: [1] Hi I noticed you replaced the{{col-begin}}{{col-break}}structure on Sahara with {{Div col|2}}, because that article is on my watch list. I just thought I'd leave you a quick note - sorry if you already know this. Whilst {{Div col|2}} does produce better columns, it doesn't work on Internet Explorer/Opera browsers, so users of those browsers will see one column on Sahara in "See Also" after your change. The previous {{col-begin}}{{col-break}} structure is clumsy, but it does seem to work on all browsers I tested. See Template:Div col for details. I've changed it back for now to using {{col-begin}}{{col-break}} so that it works cross-browser. thanks - Begoon ( talk) 06:38, 1 June 2010 (UTC) from this diff: [2] Hi! I reverted your recent change to Oman - the change appeared to have little or no visual effect on most browsers, but introduced an incompatibility with a major browser, Internet Explorer. Cheers, TFOWR is this too long? 10:21, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
from this diff: [3] Hi The reason I reverted you was because I had tested it in a variety of browsers - including Internet Explorer (I also tested Firefox and Chrome, on Windows and Linux). Trawling through your talk page history I now realise that you had been warned about this issue immediately prior to my post here, and that you were shown an alternative. Under the circumstances, I'm trying really hard not to view your change as disruptive. I'm also concerned that your level of discussion doesn't seem to extend further than summaries. While edit summaries are good (and preferrable to no edit summaries) they are no substitute for proper discussions on your talk page or on the talk page of the article concerned. Deleting other editors' comments with a vague, ambiguous comment ("All browsers are not compatible") is not a discussion. Cheers, TFOWR is this too long? 10:59, 1 June 2010 (UTC) |
Since the opportunity for discussion was not followed up, I've collapsed the previous discussion section so that it doesn't overwhelm the page. I'm disappointed that the discussion wasn't taken up, but note that at least one edit was subsequently tried in the cross-browser compatible style, which I find encouraging. Hopefully that means there was at least a little point to this effort at communication. - Begoon ( talk) 16:31, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Mr Begoon
There were 30000 seethings of a person similar to diana princess of Wales —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.251.27.110 ( talk) 14:40, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Do you actually believe Charles/Diana had a daughter ? Yes If not, is it just a misunderstanding of the article that's causing you to keep making that change? No it is not a misunderstanding —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.251.27.110 ( talk) 14:56, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
I've been following the World Cup articles and I had a weird thought. You seem to understand a lot about programming, so I'd like your thoughts. Would it be possible to add Scout uniforms to Template:Infobox WorldScouting, like as in Template:Football kit, or are there too many variables (long and short sleeves, shorts and pants, male and female)? I don't want you to actually have to muck with the thing, but is it feasible and do you know anyone who understands the underlying coding? -- Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) ( talk) 09:17, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
{{Football kit |alt = Jersey with blue and white vertical stripes, blue shorts, and blue socks |pattern_la = _white_stripes |pattern_b = _whitestripes |pattern_ra = _white_stripes |pattern_sh = |pattern_so = |leftarm = 1F24B4 |body = 1F24B4 |rightarm = 1F24B4 |shorts = 1F24B4 |socks = 1F24B4 |title = Principal }}
This is an archive of past discussions. Please do not edit this archive page. To start a new discussion or revive an old one, please use the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | → | Archive 5 |
Welcome to Wikipedia, Begoon! I am PrincessofLlyr and have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page or by typing {{ helpme}} at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Also, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); that should automatically produce your username and the date after your post. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{ helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome!
PrincessofLlyr royal court 12:09, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
I see you seem to be very concerned that your comments won't be given due consideration. From my experience one key way to add weight to your comments is by developing a good history on mainspace edits. Regards.-- Cube lurker ( talk) 17:23, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm from this school, and I'm trying to help to keep the page clean. I have it on an RSS feed on my computer. I was the one who made the page to look as large as it is, so please don't give me any warnings. I care about my school! Thanks Again. Michael —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.95.228.22 ( talk) 10:32, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Hello, per your request, I've granted you Rollback rights! Just remember:
--I also granted you the reviewer permission for the upcoming flagged revs trial. Take a look at that link to get to know it and let me know if you don't want it (some people are refusing it in protest). Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 06:38, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
({: (mustache) — Tommy 2010 13:49, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
This was such a mess that I looked back through the history and found that nothing constructive, but a great deal unpleasant and unconstructive, had happened since April, and decided the best thing to do was to delete it and restore only the revisions up to that point. I have noted what I have done on the talk page. I have also extended the semi-protection to August, which should take us past the end of the school term, when with luck the vandals will have something else on what passes for their minds. I don't think there's any point adding {{pp-semi-protected}} - anyone who tries to edit will see a notice anyway. ({{pp-protected}} will only display on a fully-protected page). Regards, JohnCD ( talk) 09:35, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Done. Thank you for this svg-"upgrade" (Maybe, we will just delete raster version) -- AS sa 20:40, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I've partially copied your vector.css, but I'm expanding the search suggestions in a different way, with a little hack for IE, because otherwise I was able to click only on the left side of the search box in order to type something. With your solution I have to click in the upper half of the search box, in IE. Can you take a look at User:Virgolette/vector.css please? Any advice will be really helpful. Thanks. -- Virgolette ( talk) 20:42, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
/* ugly IE hack */ #simpleSearch label { display:none !important; }
which is even more of a hack because it hides it completely !!
Apart from that, as I say - your solution is much simpler and elegant than mine anyway.
I also use
// START focus in search bar when ANY page loaded addOnloadHook(function() { document.getElementById("searchInput").focus(); });
in my vector.js to give the search bar focus on each page load, but you may not want/like that. - Begoon ( talk) 01:48, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the answer! Few things:
.page-Special_Search div.suggestions { margin-left: 11em !important; }
That's all for now. Bye and thanks again. -- Virgolette ( talk) 12:58, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
#simpleSearch label { visibility: hidden; }
I get the non-disappearing label bug in both IE and Chrome - that's why I've hidden it. - Begoon ( talk) 13:14, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
ok - I took your entire vector.css and copied it into IE8 to make changes in preview
I made the label colour blue so I could see what was happening, and this makes the label invisible in IE8 for me:
/* Ugly IE8 hack. I need this to make the search box clickable. Probably not working with JS gadgets like 'Focus the cursor in the search bar' */ #simpleSearch input#searchInput { z-index: 99 !important; } #simpleSearch label { letter-spacing: 1.2em; z-index: 0 !important; color: blue !important; filter: alpha(opacity=0) !important ; }
I could control the opacity all the way from 0 to 100 like that
but display:none !important works for me (needs !important to override inline style) in IE8
and visibility:hidden works (with or without !important) for me too in IE8, so who knows what result you'll get...
- Begoon (
talk) 15:03, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
For opacity you need to target all the browsers differently, I think: linky
filter:alpha(opacity=0); -moz-opacity:0; -khtml-opacity: 0; opacity: 0;
- Begoon ( talk) 04:12, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
It was NOT vandalism! I added two to three sentences to the plot line, which was neglected. Please check again before you accuse me of vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.120.25.229 ( talk) 15:18, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Was the next edit after that with "(my apologies - error)" meant for me? If that's the case then my apologies, back to you. Was in a rush to defend myself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.120.25.229 ( talk) 15:20, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Yes it was meant for you. I reverted my edit within 30 seconds and apologised to you in the edit summary both at the page and on your talk page. I'm apologising again, since you may have missed the other two. It was an error on my part, and I hope it hasn't upset you too much. Mistakes happen, but I'm never happy when I make them. As to checking - yes you are correct, I checked too late. You certainly have no need to apologise back. I remove vandalism, and bad edits with a semi-automated tool, and occasionally I make errors. On this occasion, you may laugh, I assumed, without checking properly, that your edit was to a biblical book, rather than the movie. As soon as I realised my stupidity, I corrected my mistake.
I do hope you will continue to contribute to Wikipedia despite my idiotic revert of your edit - and thank you for taking the time to discuss this - Begoon ( talk) 15:30, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
No worries, mistakes happen when we're only human :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.120.25.229 ( talk) 15:36, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Thank you very much for being so understanding. I took the liberty of having a quick glance at your edits, and I certainly would not wish to upset an editor who is making such a positive contribution to the encyclopaedia. If there's ever anything I can assist you with - please let me know here, and I'll be happy to help - Begoon ( talk) 15:44, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
The SVG Barnstar | ||
For speedily replacing my JPG with an SVG, and for all of your other fine work with images. VernoWhitney ( talk) 17:37, 9 June 2010 (UTC) |
Why thank you sir, I'm honoured. Happy I could help. :-) - Begoon ( talk) 17:55, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for catching it on Royal Australian Navy. :) -- saberwyn 22:45, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
I'm responding to your message on my talk page, I understand you have reasons for removing my link, but how was my edit "reverting established editors"? — JonathanDP81 ( Talk | contribs) 11:38, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
hi, i agree with the idea of neutral, that is why i contributed, the negative is all that is represented in these sections (how many times can you use the word abuse and talk of the family without using the word love?). i also understand this is an encyclopedia, however, it is a major resource for people looking to understand and learn, without multiple views it becomes not a good resource. i can participate in the discussion, my concern is that there isn't any.
also, i do have an account but forgot to log in, is there a way to link them after the fact? i know this is a tech question, but thought you might know.
thank you, elisa
article:incest —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.164.82.131 ( talk) 18:16, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Bejinhan
Talk 06:56, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Begoon! I appreciate the question, but could you clarify what you mean by "assess"? I just want to make sure that I answer the question correctly. Cheers. :) Theleftorium (talk) 16:28, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Appreciate the courtesy and agree with your Rolling Stones edit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.224.219.195 ( talk) 08:09, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your contribution to my Rfa. I have made a comment about it at User talk:JamesBWatson#Your Request for Adminship which you are, of course, very welcome to read if you wish to. JamesBWatson ( talk) 14:39, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Discussion moved to
Talk:Joan_of_Arc#Was_she_raped
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Hi, I added two more links which include articles from people(Mr. Williamson and Mrs. Frohlick) who have very good knowledge about Joan's life. In their article, they prove that she was not raped. One of the reasons is Joan's own sayings and another is mistranslation of Isambart's words mentioned by Pernoud in his book.I am going to a new house, so i wont access to net for some days and i wont be able to take part in the discussion.-- Joan2011 ( talk) 20:45, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Can I add the reasons that prove her virginity without removing that sentence(e.g her words that her body was never corrupted and mistranslation of Isambart's words)?-- Joan2011 ( talk) 06:23, 24 June 2010 (UTC) |
I'm copying this to the article discussion page, because that really is the place to continue it - splitting the discussion between there and here will not help achieve consensus. Please continue the discussion at Talk:Joan_of_Arc#Was_she_raped. Thanks - Begoon ( talk) 09:34, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
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Please stop. If you continue to blank out or delete portions of page content, templates or other materials from Wikipedia, as you did to Plainwell, MI, you may be blocked from editing. You are vandalizing the page by blanking entire sections and violating 3RR —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.120.170.5 ( talk) 14:38, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Re this diff: Glad it made you smile :) That was part of the intent of course, and also to reductio ad absurdum a bit the oppose votes, which I think are ridiculous. People are afraid of him being a temporary admin? That just doesn't make any logical sense. And opposition based on lack of edits to en.wiki? Admin bits are about trust. This guy's an admin on two other projects, and those projects haven't gone to pieces from his presence as an admin there. I also think the oppose based on his unwillingness to use ALL the admin tools is so far out of logic as to be hysterical. -- Hammersoft ( talk) 17:20, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
I've taken the liberty of reconstructing the old conversation (from page history) below.
I'd be grateful if we could discuss this here, since you don't seem to like leaving discussions on your talk page, and I'd like other input too.
I've noticed you're still using {{Div col}} on many articles, despite it not working in IE/Opera.
I think it's important, where we can, that we support all browsers, as best we can, so to that end, I've just altered around a dozen of these which you added recently - there are, I think, more.
I do understand that doing this as you are improves the articles for Mozilla based browsers, and has no detrimental effect on the others - but it just seems such a waste if it could be done cross-browser to start with. The articles look so much better after your edits in Mozilla browsers, that it's a real shame IE/Opera users don't see the improvement.
Here's an idea - if the problem from your point of view is that the cross-browser alternative is unwieldy and awkward - maybe we can come up with a template that makes it easier to implement - just a thought - I'm not sure how practical that is without looking into it. A very quick look shows me that: Template:Multicol might be an easier option, though it still requires manually signalling column ends, like this:
{{Multicol}} This text appears in the first column. {{Multicol-break}} This text appears in the second column. {{Multicol-break}} This text appears in the third column. {{Multicol-end}}
You can have any number of columns. Each column will be the same width, equally dividing the available horizontal space. Each column has a small right margin (20 pixels), creating a "gutter" that prevents text in one column from touching text in the column to its right.
The previous discussion is below - I've invited the other editor to comment - I think it's important to get as broad a view as we can.
thanks - Begoon ( talk) 16:45, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
PREVIOUS DISCUSSION:
|
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from this diff: [1] Hi I noticed you replaced the{{col-begin}}{{col-break}}structure on Sahara with {{Div col|2}}, because that article is on my watch list. I just thought I'd leave you a quick note - sorry if you already know this. Whilst {{Div col|2}} does produce better columns, it doesn't work on Internet Explorer/Opera browsers, so users of those browsers will see one column on Sahara in "See Also" after your change. The previous {{col-begin}}{{col-break}} structure is clumsy, but it does seem to work on all browsers I tested. See Template:Div col for details. I've changed it back for now to using {{col-begin}}{{col-break}} so that it works cross-browser. thanks - Begoon ( talk) 06:38, 1 June 2010 (UTC) from this diff: [2] Hi! I reverted your recent change to Oman - the change appeared to have little or no visual effect on most browsers, but introduced an incompatibility with a major browser, Internet Explorer. Cheers, TFOWR is this too long? 10:21, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
from this diff: [3] Hi The reason I reverted you was because I had tested it in a variety of browsers - including Internet Explorer (I also tested Firefox and Chrome, on Windows and Linux). Trawling through your talk page history I now realise that you had been warned about this issue immediately prior to my post here, and that you were shown an alternative. Under the circumstances, I'm trying really hard not to view your change as disruptive. I'm also concerned that your level of discussion doesn't seem to extend further than summaries. While edit summaries are good (and preferrable to no edit summaries) they are no substitute for proper discussions on your talk page or on the talk page of the article concerned. Deleting other editors' comments with a vague, ambiguous comment ("All browsers are not compatible") is not a discussion. Cheers, TFOWR is this too long? 10:59, 1 June 2010 (UTC) |
Since the opportunity for discussion was not followed up, I've collapsed the previous discussion section so that it doesn't overwhelm the page. I'm disappointed that the discussion wasn't taken up, but note that at least one edit was subsequently tried in the cross-browser compatible style, which I find encouraging. Hopefully that means there was at least a little point to this effort at communication. - Begoon ( talk) 16:31, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Mr Begoon
There were 30000 seethings of a person similar to diana princess of Wales —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.251.27.110 ( talk) 14:40, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Do you actually believe Charles/Diana had a daughter ? Yes If not, is it just a misunderstanding of the article that's causing you to keep making that change? No it is not a misunderstanding —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.251.27.110 ( talk) 14:56, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
I've been following the World Cup articles and I had a weird thought. You seem to understand a lot about programming, so I'd like your thoughts. Would it be possible to add Scout uniforms to Template:Infobox WorldScouting, like as in Template:Football kit, or are there too many variables (long and short sleeves, shorts and pants, male and female)? I don't want you to actually have to muck with the thing, but is it feasible and do you know anyone who understands the underlying coding? -- Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) ( talk) 09:17, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
{{Football kit |alt = Jersey with blue and white vertical stripes, blue shorts, and blue socks |pattern_la = _white_stripes |pattern_b = _whitestripes |pattern_ra = _white_stripes |pattern_sh = |pattern_so = |leftarm = 1F24B4 |body = 1F24B4 |rightarm = 1F24B4 |shorts = 1F24B4 |socks = 1F24B4 |title = Principal }}