Hi, I don't know if you have your various megafauna subpages pages watchlisted, but if you aren't aware, I'm having a minor edit war there about having categories on them. I'm assuming that the IP with whom I'm having the disagreement is not you, so I'm wondering if you could help me out here, either by talking to the IP or by helping keep the pages free of category tags. The person is using a dynamic IP, so I've left a note on as many pages as possible, but I don't know if s/he will see it. I'm making one last ditch effort to remove the categories, then I'll move on. I only became aware of the categories because the Indonesian IP added Chinook Salmon, which is on my watchlist, to the category Megafauna, and that didn't really seem right to me, so I checked Category:Megafauna and saw the inappropriately placed categories. I don't have much interest in continuing this, but at some point it's likely that other editors will also notice the inappropriately placed category tags and also remove them. Like I told the IP, the lists were userfied for a reason, and I have no opinion on that, but because they are supposed to be in user space, it is inappropriate for them to be listed in mainspace categories. Before I move on, I may try to alert the appropriate WikiProject so that they can give their opinion on the matter. Thanks for your help in this matter and good luck getting the lists back up to standard. Katr67 ( talk) 18:09, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
HI, could I tempt you to work through these? Himalayan 20:27, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
I've run into the same issue, and think your approach is best, that most of the time, it should be lowercase "p" for presidents. Only when talking about a specific president, like "President Roosevelt", then we should capitalize. Good choice.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 02:33, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
All of the uses of "President" in question in Grover Cleveland are a part of a specific title -- that of President of the United States. If Cleveland had traveled to Mexico and met with Porfirio Diaz, I would have described it as a "meeting of presidents," since the word there would have been generic. If he had met with ex-President Hayes, I would have called it a "meeting of Presidents," since both held that specific office. This article made it through a rigorous featured article candidacy without anyone objecting to the capitalization, which suggests to me that those editors, meticulous as they were, agreed with me about the MOS. -- Coemgenus 12:18, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Hold it. This is a very bad idea! — Aldaron • T/ C 05:00, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
density_gcm
), leaving the old parameter intact. Doing that would tip off editors that they should pay attention to the units when they enter values. The errors you cite happen for the simple reason that the parameter doesn't specify units and editors probably just assume some, without double-checking what gets displayed—not because they're thinking in g cm-3. —
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05:17, 25 December 2009 (UTC)I like this dif. Solid collaboration! Hiberniantears ( talk) 04:21, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the corrections at the Noronha skink article. I thought I had struck the redundant "floating over" part, but as it turns out I didn't. I'm planning on getting the article to WP:FAC soon, with only a bit more work needed on the "Description" section; do you have any suggestions on how the article can be further improved? Ucucha 01:35, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
I appreciate your help in working on the Lemur article, but your addition of animals that use self-generated acoustical cues is not supported by the reference I cited. You will either need to find a reference, or the list will have to be deleted. And if you do find a reference, you might want to add the information to the Striped Possum article, where nothing at all is said about this. – VisionHolder « talk » 21:00, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Won't echolocating shrews also fall under that? That would mean there are not "a few" species outside bats and cetaceans either. Ucucha 20:57, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
See Talk:Marsh rice rat#Sigmodontinae. Ucucha 17:30, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
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I like your megafauna lists. Given the vagaries of the definition of the term, though, I think you'll have a hard time convincing the community to keep them in the article space. I wish you luck. Abyssal ( talk) 06:21, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi- I think your regional/continental lists of megafauna are excellent and they deserve to be standalone pages and improved by the Wikipedia community. For example, I think any Wikipedia discussion of eg African ecology should link to a list of megafauna, and I am surprised there isn't one (other biomes have faunal lists, etc.). I think this should include all megafauna from Pleistocene to recent. If you are an editor, perhaps you can get the ball rolling by linking from pages such as African ecology and African fauna. Also, as far as definition of megafauna, this recent review in Science makes a good argument for a consistent definition of megafauna: <10.1126/science.1172393>
In the meantime I will add a few to your African list.. Amdurbin ( talk) 16:41, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Awesome job expanding/updating them! :) - UtherSRG (talk) 01:37, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Firstly I thank you for your diplomacy--you're the only person I've encountered on Wikipedia who hasn't screamed at me for disagreeing with you. I did believe that this was a mistake, as I frequently find animals on the La Brea Tar Pits page that most certainly do not belong there.
I still find myself doubtful as to the species in question however. I find it difficult to believe that the literal domestic horse, Equus ferus caballus was present in South America and not a related species such as Przewalskii's horse--doppelgangers of which are already known from Alaska. Is there an alternate approach to horse nomenclature at play here? 71.43.182.92 ( talk) 16:04, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
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Just to let you know, I started a discussion of your new {{ MSW3 Primates}} template on WT:PRIMATE. I wanted to make people aware that it exists, and it gives people a chance to address any concerns that might be shared by members of the WikiProject. Overall, it looks like a good reference template. Thanks. – VisionHolder « talk » 14:27, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
My thanks for your very helpful edits to the article, and I hope you like the picture of Zhang Qian you inspired me to add. μηδείς ( talk) 23:37, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Oops! I swear I am going blind. I did notice and appreciate your edits as well, and was surprised to see the above comments when I came here to thank you. LOL. I do have to say I was quite surprised this article didn't already exist when I went to look for it. μηδείς ( talk) 00:46, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
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Hi Wolfman! I'm french contributor, I have a question for you. I translated the article Deep-sea gigantism in French and I would to know if you have found these few species, in this diff, in a book or you have found from your knowledge? Because I know a scientist french magazine has copied my article gigantisme abyssal, with the same list of species, in the same order. I would be sure no exists a book with the same list! Thanks! Best regards-- Citron ( talk) 19:21, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
"Trojan" is a proper noun, like "Londoner" or "Parisian". It should be capitalised in any situation. Serendi pod ous 23:49, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi Wolfman. If you can get a hold of this book, which in general is excellent, section 13.2.2 describes the mechanism by which wavy edges and wakes form around the Encke Gap. -- BlueMoonlet ( t/ c) 14:51, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
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Very nice work on HD 10180!! — hike395 ( talk) 03:51, 15 September 2010 (UTC) |
Viriditas ( talk) 01:50, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi Gabriel, you added a statement to the Gliese 581 g article to the effect that there are planets between Gliese 581 g and the parent star that are not tidally locked, and then in support mentioned the eccentricity of Gliese 581 d, which is outward from Gliese 581 g. You also mentioned that eccentricities that could be up to 0.2, which to my way of thinking means that they might not be tidally locked, not that they are not tidally locked. The content of the Tidal locking article doesn't support the claim. I don't see any support for this idea in the other articles on the Gliese 581 system, either. Do you have any reference(s) or arguments to the effect that planets inward of Gliese 581 g are not tidally locked? Thanks, WolfmanSF ( talk) 04:48, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
User:Drbogdan has made an effort to discuss his proposed edits on the talk page. Could you join that discussion? He has been very civil and gracious, and I think we can accommodate his edits without deleting them. Thanks. Viriditas ( talk) 08:55, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Although the lead can be improved, I think the changes by several editors have made it more difficult for our readers. It is very important to remember that we are not writing for astro geeks nor for professionals, but for people we assume know nothing about the topic. For this reason a certain amount of redundancy is not only acceptable but encouraged, as a way to take the reader by the hand and immerse them in the subject while also maintaining their interest. As an example, I will show you the last version prior to your most recent edits:
Studies indicate that the planet is located in the habitable zone of its parent star, where the stability of liquid water is important to sustain life. In an environment where it is neither too hot nor too cold, Gliese 581 g is believed to be the first Goldilocks planet found outside the Solar System, and a candidate for the most Earth-like exoplanet with the greatest potential for harboring life found so far.
As a generalist encyclopedia, we first introduce the reader to several ideas, which while redundant to an expert, are stepping stones for an editor who doesn't know the topic. The introductory sentence is an overview, bringing the reader up to date with the latest findings from a new study. A term, HZ, is also given to the reader, with a concise definition attached. Now that the reader knows what we are talking about, we can explain a bit more in the second sentence, and indicate the importance of the finding. Notice also, the importance of linked items represents takeaway subjects: habitable zone, Goldilocks planet, Solar System, and most importantly, Earth-like exoplanet. So, while an expert like yourself might find this annoying, when we write for a general reader, we add redundancy to increase readability, and we carefully link to key topics that can help the reader understand what it is we are talking about. I feel that your latest revision to the lead did not take any of these things into account, and decreased the level of readability a general reader will require. Viriditas ( talk) 02:51, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I don't know if you have your various megafauna subpages pages watchlisted, but if you aren't aware, I'm having a minor edit war there about having categories on them. I'm assuming that the IP with whom I'm having the disagreement is not you, so I'm wondering if you could help me out here, either by talking to the IP or by helping keep the pages free of category tags. The person is using a dynamic IP, so I've left a note on as many pages as possible, but I don't know if s/he will see it. I'm making one last ditch effort to remove the categories, then I'll move on. I only became aware of the categories because the Indonesian IP added Chinook Salmon, which is on my watchlist, to the category Megafauna, and that didn't really seem right to me, so I checked Category:Megafauna and saw the inappropriately placed categories. I don't have much interest in continuing this, but at some point it's likely that other editors will also notice the inappropriately placed category tags and also remove them. Like I told the IP, the lists were userfied for a reason, and I have no opinion on that, but because they are supposed to be in user space, it is inappropriate for them to be listed in mainspace categories. Before I move on, I may try to alert the appropriate WikiProject so that they can give their opinion on the matter. Thanks for your help in this matter and good luck getting the lists back up to standard. Katr67 ( talk) 18:09, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
HI, could I tempt you to work through these? Himalayan 20:27, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
I've run into the same issue, and think your approach is best, that most of the time, it should be lowercase "p" for presidents. Only when talking about a specific president, like "President Roosevelt", then we should capitalize. Good choice.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 02:33, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
All of the uses of "President" in question in Grover Cleveland are a part of a specific title -- that of President of the United States. If Cleveland had traveled to Mexico and met with Porfirio Diaz, I would have described it as a "meeting of presidents," since the word there would have been generic. If he had met with ex-President Hayes, I would have called it a "meeting of Presidents," since both held that specific office. This article made it through a rigorous featured article candidacy without anyone objecting to the capitalization, which suggests to me that those editors, meticulous as they were, agreed with me about the MOS. -- Coemgenus 12:18, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Hold it. This is a very bad idea! — Aldaron • T/ C 05:00, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
density_gcm
), leaving the old parameter intact. Doing that would tip off editors that they should pay attention to the units when they enter values. The errors you cite happen for the simple reason that the parameter doesn't specify units and editors probably just assume some, without double-checking what gets displayed—not because they're thinking in g cm-3. —
Aldaron •
T/
C
05:17, 25 December 2009 (UTC)I like this dif. Solid collaboration! Hiberniantears ( talk) 04:21, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the corrections at the Noronha skink article. I thought I had struck the redundant "floating over" part, but as it turns out I didn't. I'm planning on getting the article to WP:FAC soon, with only a bit more work needed on the "Description" section; do you have any suggestions on how the article can be further improved? Ucucha 01:35, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
I appreciate your help in working on the Lemur article, but your addition of animals that use self-generated acoustical cues is not supported by the reference I cited. You will either need to find a reference, or the list will have to be deleted. And if you do find a reference, you might want to add the information to the Striped Possum article, where nothing at all is said about this. – VisionHolder « talk » 21:00, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Won't echolocating shrews also fall under that? That would mean there are not "a few" species outside bats and cetaceans either. Ucucha 20:57, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
See Talk:Marsh rice rat#Sigmodontinae. Ucucha 17:30, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
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I like your megafauna lists. Given the vagaries of the definition of the term, though, I think you'll have a hard time convincing the community to keep them in the article space. I wish you luck. Abyssal ( talk) 06:21, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi- I think your regional/continental lists of megafauna are excellent and they deserve to be standalone pages and improved by the Wikipedia community. For example, I think any Wikipedia discussion of eg African ecology should link to a list of megafauna, and I am surprised there isn't one (other biomes have faunal lists, etc.). I think this should include all megafauna from Pleistocene to recent. If you are an editor, perhaps you can get the ball rolling by linking from pages such as African ecology and African fauna. Also, as far as definition of megafauna, this recent review in Science makes a good argument for a consistent definition of megafauna: <10.1126/science.1172393>
In the meantime I will add a few to your African list.. Amdurbin ( talk) 16:41, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Awesome job expanding/updating them! :) - UtherSRG (talk) 01:37, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Firstly I thank you for your diplomacy--you're the only person I've encountered on Wikipedia who hasn't screamed at me for disagreeing with you. I did believe that this was a mistake, as I frequently find animals on the La Brea Tar Pits page that most certainly do not belong there.
I still find myself doubtful as to the species in question however. I find it difficult to believe that the literal domestic horse, Equus ferus caballus was present in South America and not a related species such as Przewalskii's horse--doppelgangers of which are already known from Alaska. Is there an alternate approach to horse nomenclature at play here? 71.43.182.92 ( talk) 16:04, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
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Just to let you know, I started a discussion of your new {{ MSW3 Primates}} template on WT:PRIMATE. I wanted to make people aware that it exists, and it gives people a chance to address any concerns that might be shared by members of the WikiProject. Overall, it looks like a good reference template. Thanks. – VisionHolder « talk » 14:27, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
My thanks for your very helpful edits to the article, and I hope you like the picture of Zhang Qian you inspired me to add. μηδείς ( talk) 23:37, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Oops! I swear I am going blind. I did notice and appreciate your edits as well, and was surprised to see the above comments when I came here to thank you. LOL. I do have to say I was quite surprised this article didn't already exist when I went to look for it. μηδείς ( talk) 00:46, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
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Hi Wolfman! I'm french contributor, I have a question for you. I translated the article Deep-sea gigantism in French and I would to know if you have found these few species, in this diff, in a book or you have found from your knowledge? Because I know a scientist french magazine has copied my article gigantisme abyssal, with the same list of species, in the same order. I would be sure no exists a book with the same list! Thanks! Best regards-- Citron ( talk) 19:21, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
"Trojan" is a proper noun, like "Londoner" or "Parisian". It should be capitalised in any situation. Serendi pod ous 23:49, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi Wolfman. If you can get a hold of this book, which in general is excellent, section 13.2.2 describes the mechanism by which wavy edges and wakes form around the Encke Gap. -- BlueMoonlet ( t/ c) 14:51, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
![]() | On 4 September 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article HD 10180, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
-- Cirt ( talk) 18:03, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
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The Space Barnstar | |
Very nice work on HD 10180!! — hike395 ( talk) 03:51, 15 September 2010 (UTC) |
Viriditas ( talk) 01:50, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi Gabriel, you added a statement to the Gliese 581 g article to the effect that there are planets between Gliese 581 g and the parent star that are not tidally locked, and then in support mentioned the eccentricity of Gliese 581 d, which is outward from Gliese 581 g. You also mentioned that eccentricities that could be up to 0.2, which to my way of thinking means that they might not be tidally locked, not that they are not tidally locked. The content of the Tidal locking article doesn't support the claim. I don't see any support for this idea in the other articles on the Gliese 581 system, either. Do you have any reference(s) or arguments to the effect that planets inward of Gliese 581 g are not tidally locked? Thanks, WolfmanSF ( talk) 04:48, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
User:Drbogdan has made an effort to discuss his proposed edits on the talk page. Could you join that discussion? He has been very civil and gracious, and I think we can accommodate his edits without deleting them. Thanks. Viriditas ( talk) 08:55, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Although the lead can be improved, I think the changes by several editors have made it more difficult for our readers. It is very important to remember that we are not writing for astro geeks nor for professionals, but for people we assume know nothing about the topic. For this reason a certain amount of redundancy is not only acceptable but encouraged, as a way to take the reader by the hand and immerse them in the subject while also maintaining their interest. As an example, I will show you the last version prior to your most recent edits:
Studies indicate that the planet is located in the habitable zone of its parent star, where the stability of liquid water is important to sustain life. In an environment where it is neither too hot nor too cold, Gliese 581 g is believed to be the first Goldilocks planet found outside the Solar System, and a candidate for the most Earth-like exoplanet with the greatest potential for harboring life found so far.
As a generalist encyclopedia, we first introduce the reader to several ideas, which while redundant to an expert, are stepping stones for an editor who doesn't know the topic. The introductory sentence is an overview, bringing the reader up to date with the latest findings from a new study. A term, HZ, is also given to the reader, with a concise definition attached. Now that the reader knows what we are talking about, we can explain a bit more in the second sentence, and indicate the importance of the finding. Notice also, the importance of linked items represents takeaway subjects: habitable zone, Goldilocks planet, Solar System, and most importantly, Earth-like exoplanet. So, while an expert like yourself might find this annoying, when we write for a general reader, we add redundancy to increase readability, and we carefully link to key topics that can help the reader understand what it is we are talking about. I feel that your latest revision to the lead did not take any of these things into account, and decreased the level of readability a general reader will require. Viriditas ( talk) 02:51, 7 October 2010 (UTC)