Wikipedia has a new administrator!Oh My God!The judge took Britney's kids away from her! Words fail me (but I will be on all the Britney forums this evening/night, finding the words after all!). Wow! Fed-ex getting custody--what is the world coming to?!? Jeffpw 21:44, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Hot 100 number-one hits of 2007 (USA)Howdy! I noticed you unprotected Hot 100 number-one hits of 2007 (USA).... I'm just letting you know that if I place it back into protected status I'm not attempting to undermine your decision... this particular page comes under a heavy barrage of edits and incorrect info/speculation on a weekly basis (moreso than the lists for other charts or countries or past years), mostly anon IPs, and most of the time before any chart has been confirmed or published (which is why it was protected in the first place).... anyhoo, most of the activity starts on Tues or Wed nights so I'm gonna keep my eye on it :-) See ya later! - eo 01:13, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
AdminsI'm not going to apologize for what I've been doing, however I am going to make sure all my vandalism gets reverted (if someone else hasn't already). Editors have no course of action against admins who quite frankly have no idea how to use their administrative powers properly. I'm a good case study of a good editor who has made significant constructive contributions with my regular username, only to become frustrated by the elitism and poor judgment to the point of defacing the encyclopedia. I know what I do as an anon IP is simple and easy to just click on the undo button; all the damage goes away into a endless archive. However, the newbies and regular editors who put untold hours of volunteer work into creating an encyclopedia can't simply revert their mindset towards the whole unfortunate situation. Thats all I have to say. If you like, I'll provide my own username and you can indef block it, and I'll stay blocked. Sorry for wasting your time. 70.247.252.60 03:51, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Please unprotect Seattle, WashingtonAccording to Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection#Current_requests_for_unprotection, the admin who protected a page should be asked to do the unprotection when it is time to do so. Could you unprotect Seattle, Washington? Thanks. 68.167.255.104 06:53, 2 October 2007 (UTC).
Courtesy blanking of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mzoli's MeatsHi, WJBscribe. I see that you and ^demon ( talk · contribs) blanked Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mzoli's Meats, but I don't quite understand why. The presence of some bad-faith comments on that page doesn't seem a sufficient reason for hiding its contents from casual visitors. Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Courtesy blanking allows for a page to be blanked for reasons such as invasion of privacy, libel and emotional distress — but I don't see any of those reasons applying to the Mzoli's AfD. In general, I don't think it's a good idea to blank Wikipedia process pages, especially when they've gained media attention: to the casual viewer, it will appear as if we're trying to hide dirty laundry. Other folks are also asking about the blanking at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Mzoli's Meats, and you may wish to comment there. If there's something about this that you'd rather not discuss on-wiki, you can email me via the "email this user" link on my user page. However, unless there's more here than meets the eye, it looks to me as if there's not a lot of support for this courtesy blanking, and you might want to reconsider it. Thanks. — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 07:50, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
I take your point about those who comment on the talk page not necessarily being representative of the community as a whole. I'll bring the matter up at AN/I. However, I felt that since ^demon was the admin who had originally blanked the page, and he said he had no objection to the blanking being reverted, the matter would be uncontroversial. Whose privacy are you trying to protect? Jimbo's? As I said on the talk page, I really don't think that's necessary. — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 19:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
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Removal of Foundation copyrighted imagesHi, could you explain this edit? I'm not aware of any consensus that prohibits the use of Foundation copyrighted images in userspace. Any discussions I have seen suggests that they should not be treated the same as other unfree images. I'm not aware there has either been a change in local consensus or any directive from the Foundation prohibiting their use... WjB scribe 04:15, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
You There???Why did you do that??? Connubbialis
CHU/UHey, I redid the requests section, but I don't really volunteer there frequently, what are your thoughts? Regards, Mercury 17:49, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi! I was looking over Portal:LGBT/Quotes and its related template Portal:LGBT/Quotetemp and noticed you created Portal:LGBT/Quotetemp and installed it to Portal:LGBT/Quotes. We've added a great many new quotes to LGBT/Quotes over the last few weeks but they aren't showing up, just showing the older quotes that were there before the addition of new ones. Does this have something to do with the settings in LGBT/Quotetemp? Thanks. -- ALLSTAR ECHO 20:05, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Hope You Don't MindThis edit. It SHOULD be treated with respect after all. :) - Warthog Demon 22:34, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
MC ApplicationI'm likely going to get rejected considering the 10 minutes I speant actually typing, but it's done now. FinalWish 01:56, 5 October 2007 (UTC) I now accept your offerHello, It's been a while, but I've now moved back to the UK and settled into my new hall of residence, with the internet running. I will now accept your offer (dating back to August) to nominate me for RFA. Thanks.-- Alasdair 08:18, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for answering my plaintive cry so quickly. :) Abtract 01:11, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
To Speak, was screen at Montreal Festival amendment. An editor has asked for a deletion review of To Speak. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Jesslynism 07:35, 6 October 2007 (UTC) AfDSigh... okay, then I guess you can reopen it. I just didn't see the point, as you addressed my major consideration about navigability of categories, and all that's left now is people talking about how "gay people need this list to know there are other gay people out there" keep votes. I just don't see how the outcome would change either way. David Fuchs ( talk) 17:41, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Bot flags?It looks like there are several. Am I wrong? -- Cecropia 03:16, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
User:P usurpationI am doing some checking on sockpuppets over at en:Wikiquote by seeing if there are similar names here on Wikipedia. I noticed that you posted a notice on 11 July 2007, currently at User talk:P#Request for Usurpation, for usurpation of a username. I'm not clear on what an usurpation looks like after the fact, so I don't know if "P" is (A) the original username that was not usurped, despite the lack of reply from P on this page; or (B) the end-result of the usurpation, with no mention of the original username. I checked the WP:CHU archives for both "Rejected/Unfulfilled" and "Usurpations" in the 11-18 July timeframe, but saw no mention of "P" or of any requested username change that seemed to suggest "P" might be involved. Could you tell me what happened here, or at least point me to the appropriate records? Thank you for your help. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 11:02, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Bot RFAWJBScribe, I've added a questions at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/RedirectCleanupBot. It may seem obvious, but was a matter of issue with past requests of this sort. Please ping me via talk if you choose to reply. Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 21:50, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
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Can you look at a block?User talk:Haiduc. One week for a snarky edit summary seems a bit extreme. According to established policy, Blocks are used to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, not to punish users. This definitely seems punitive to me. I have no doubt that 1==2 is a well meaning Wikipedian ( :-) ), but I do doubt if blocking an established editor who has never been blocked before for one week is helpful to the editor or the project. Thanks. Jeffpw 08:02, 8 October 2007 (UTC) Quick favour?Hi there, ho ho, I believe we have yet never met, never a better time than the present. G'day to you! Well since you are one of the admins active at the moment, I would like to request a small favour; can you please delete my user page; I will recreate it after you delete it. Thanks a lot! Phgao 10:39, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Admin question...I am a member of WikiProject Professional Wrestling, because the majority of my edits are wrestling related articles. Is it possible to become an administrator for this project, and if so, how would I go about doing that? Hiphopchamp 13:10, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Regarding userpation Niaz <- Niaz_bdToday I applied for a userpation from Niaz_bd to Niaz. I didn't know that user Niaz had some contributions on WP though those edits have been deleted later. Now the scenario is, Niaz does not have any existing edit other then those deleted contributions on WP and even he didn't create his own userpage/usertalk. He doesn't have any email address as well. In such case will it be possible for me get migrated to that username? I'll be extremely grateful if you kindly advise me what to do next. Kind regards, -- Niaz (Talk • Contribs) 18:20, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks manFor cleaning up the comments here. I was half tempted to specially after I saw people who opposed did the exact same thing (ironically that included you). Kwsn (Ni!) 12:31, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Random thing on former adminsHi, I'm on an extended vacation, but I noticed your recent removal of the "controversial circumstances" marker from several folks on the former admin page. While your rationale -- that b'crats have discretion over such matters -- is entirely correct, I disagree with some of the removals. For former admins who have already failed a new RfA, a b'crat has already determined (sometimes, by stipulation of the candidate), that controversial circumstances exist. Ref 2 implies Ref 1, in other words. Jtkiefer is a special case -- he avoided being banned (by b'crat Taxman) only by agreeing to a future RfA and the disclosing of any name changes, even under the right to vanish before being readminned. Essjay is likewise a special case -- given the circumstances of his resignation (forced by Jimbo, basically), I submit that it is right to make him a "controversial candidate" also. I will now make changes to return the list to a clearer state, marking the cases that have already been determined to be controversial by a b'crat or Jimbo. Best wishes, Xoloz 15:59, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Your response to an editor's voteWJBscribe, hello. I noticed you left this response [5] to a RfA vote by Proabivouac. It comes across to me as threatening and harsh. Please explain to me why you see such a response as necessary.-- Fahrenheit451 16:44, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
The response was not in relation to a vote (RfA isn't a vote anyway) it was a comment on his disruptive allegations he made elsewhere on the RfA page which is part of an ongoing pattern of disruption by Proabivouac ever since it was revealed that he had been sanctioned by ArbCom under a previous username and had returned under this one thereby avoiding those ArbCom sanctions. I would advise you to stay clear of the matter if you are not in possession of all the facts. WjB scribe 17:51, 10 October 2007 (UTC) WJBscribe, my purpose for asking you was to clarify your response. I thank you for giving me some of the relevant facts. On the RfAs, one does support, oppose, or take a neutral stance, so there is a vote involved. I see nothing particularly disruptive about his comments on Jehochman's RfA page. He does protest what he perceives as some injustices involving unnamed admins. Perhaps that is not the best page for placing that comment and to that extent, it may be inappropriate.-- Fahrenheit451 17:59, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
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05:42, 11 October 2007 (UTC) PS-please leeve any response on my talk page. Thanks My recent RfAI am sorry you felt it necessary to oppose my recent RfA, which did not succeed. I have seen you around and respect your judgment, and to see you oppose my RfA truly saddens me. Especially your harsh words about me not having experience in any area related to administrator work simply isn't true and astounds me. It is true I haven't participated in XfDs, but, indeed, I have tagged articles as candidates for speedy deletion. I have reported users to WP:AIV, and my bot has reported many, many users to AIV. Is not vandal fighting part of an administrator's job? I have done a fair amount of that, and my bot has done so much more. Furthermore, isn't blocking open proxies the job of an administrator? I am a verified open proxy checker, and participate at WP:OP. You also expressed concerns about my article writing experience, while it is true that I haven't written much, I don't see why article writing is a prerequisite to being an administrator. The administrator tools are more for cleaning up (thus the term "mop") rather than writing other articles. I will attempt to get more experience in the main namespace and the Wikipedia namespace and will try again for RfA in two month's time. I hope I will have satisfied your concerns by then, but if not, please comment as you feel you should. Thanks for participating in my RfA. -- Cobi( t| c| b| cn) 08:20, 11 October 2007 (UTC) RedirectCleanupBot's RFA was successfulCongratulations, RedirectCleanupBot, a bot you will be operating, is now the first fully automated administrator! -- Deskana (talk) 20:55, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Splicing/movingHi WJBscribe. How do I move the contents and history at User:Rcktmanil/Feast of Fools (podcast) (draft) to Feast of Fools (podcast) so as to perserve the history of both User:Rcktmanil/Feast of Fools (podcast) (draft) and Feast of Fools (podcast)? Thanks. -- Jreferee t/ c 01:58, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
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Delivered on 17:31, 11 October 2007 (UTC). Doh!Gah! I completely got my days wrong of what day the bot's RfA ended, lol. I fully intended to add a support opinion, especially after your great answer to my question, but I got distracted, and it completely slipped my mind. Well, not that you needed another support, that was a very impressive turnout. I guess I can just offer my congrats for you to pass along to the bot, lol. Ariel ♥ Gold 12:35, 12 October 2007 (UTC) RFA Thank You Note from Jehochman
Request for UsurpationHi Will, I asked to usurp '9' and I see you processed it and we are now awaiting the magic wand being waved. Only problem is - it hasn't. Seems a bit strange to have this incredibly long, drawn out and self-important process that then isn't followed by the very system it is supposed to assist. I'm not whining, but can you suggest someone I could take this issue to so I/m not waiting for another week? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Darth Doctrinus ( talk • contribs) 00:34, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
U2 album article...Hi WJB. I'm a bit confused about this article. I thought it had been deleted. There is an afd with your name on it saying it had gone. Can you clarify it for me please? cheers. -- Merbabu 08:02, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Thorny redirect problemHi there. I'm currently creating lots of redirects to biographical articles. The story here is that people can be linked in several different ways, with redirects taking people to where the article is (as I'm sure you know). For example: Carl S. Marvel and Carl Shipp Marvel. Such redirects are often needed when people are credited in references to journal articles, or listed in lists of awards copied from a website (in such cases it is sometimes important to retain the exact original phrasing of the name). This creation of redirects should be done by people creating the biographical article, but as you can see from my sweep through Willard Gibbs Award (see [6], [7], [8], [9], [10]), this is often not the case. I did something similar for Royal Medal. The problem I sometimes come across is articles where redlinks exist, but the article hasn't been created yet. I'm then stuck with either creating a stub (which is annoying if I don't have time to do this), or leaving the redirects uncreated. If I created them, of course, your new master would delete them... :-) Here is a concrete example of that: W. Albert Noyes, Jr. ( what links here) and William Albert Noyes, Jr. ( what links here). Both are valid ways to write the name. At the moment I've noted on the awards pages that he is the son of William A. Noyes, but what I wanted to do was create a redirect from W. Albert Noyes, Jr. to William Albert Noyes, Jr.. It seems that I can't do that, and what I will have to do is either create a small stub (ideally the redlink would wait for someone who had time to write a proper article), or redirect both to the father's article (again, that may impede the creation of a proper article). In case you are interested, I tried to create a redirect to a non-yet-written page before. The redirect was Ramsay H. Traquair. If you look at the page history and the page logs, you will see that I created it on 7 February 2007, and it was deleted on 10 February. I failed to notice until 18 July, when I started this discussion (now archived). This probably all shows up a fundamental failing of the current redirect system (a redirect to a page that has mainspace links in the "what links here" list should be treated as a redlink, not a broken redirect), but what happened in that case was that I wrote the stub Ramsay Heatley Traquair and politely requested undeletion of the redirect. The terse response was "it's recreated", and I said I didn't care either way, but I see that someone later undeleted the redirect (all this took place on 18 July). Right. That was a bit long! Hopefully you managed to get to the end of that. My question, in light of the recent RfA for your adminbot to delete broken redirects (congratulations on that), is what is the best way to deal with this sort of thing? Do you think that redirects should wait until there is an article, or not? If I see several different redlinks referring to the same person, can the relationship between these redlinks (a relationship that would normally be noted by creating redirects between them) be noted anywhere for future reference? Carcharoth 14:18, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
OK, let me try and answer some of those points:
As an aside, one of the problems here in the recent aggression in deleting stubs. There should be nothing wrong with a short article on someone obviously notable without needing vast numbers of refs to confirm notability. Full professors, members of national governments, Nobel prozewinners etc. are by definition notable and having one sentence about them is better than nothing.... WjB scribe 16:14, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't think pre-creation discussion is a new idea, but it feels so elegant! See Talk:W. Albert Noyes, Jr. and Talk:William Albert Noyes, Jr.. Now, I'll just have to wait and see if those pages get deleted... Carcharoth 16:47, 12 October 2007 (UTC) AlohaAloha, WJBscribe. Thanks for closing Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Votes for banning. However, I am just wondering why and how you calculated a "delete" outcome, as nothing was stated on the MfD in your closure. It doesn't seem close to a consensus for delete. If it was the fact that it was a redirect to a now historical page, or that you were ignoring rules to better the encyclopedia, or some other explanation, a simple note saying so would be helpful. Mahalo nui loa. -- Ali'i 18:13, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks!Thanks for the protection on my 2 pages... -- Flaaaaaaaaaaaming! 05:31, 13 October 2007 (UTC) Jacques de MolayHi WJBscribe. Please note that User:Elonka started by reverting my edits for a more neutral version, and I think, a more appropriate placement inside the Crusades paragraph. As she reverted it, the image does not illustrate any text in the "Legends" paragraph. Regards. PHG 09:37, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Your recent bot approvals request has been approved. Please see the request page for details. When the bot flag is set it will show up in this log. That is when you are allowed to start your bot editing at the requested rate of 4EPM max. If you have any further questions, don't hesitate to contact me via talk page or IRC (as TheLetterE). — E talk bots 10:49, 13 October 2007 (UTC) Protection QuestionHi WJB, A question for you. Related to a recent point raised at AN/I [11] , there has been a struggle recently over what to do about episodes of a series called Farscape. These do not comply with our notability policy or our episode guideline and, after a lengthy discussion process (back and forth here: [ [12]]) I redirected per WP:EPISODE. This was reverted, etc... you can guess what follows. The question is: is page protection (either to prevent me from further redirecting or to maintain the redirect which I believe is a clear implementation of policy) a proper course of action. Basically, a committed group of fans is acting to stymie site-wide policy. Thanks for any thoughts you may have. Eusebeus 12:37, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm not particularly interested by whether these pages should be articles or redirects but the edit warring is unacceptable. I have fully protected the pages (in the state that I found them) until a consensus is reached as to what to do with them.... WjB scribe 12:48, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Phi Kappa Psi Mediation RequestPlease return to the Phi Kappa Psi mediation request. It was not resolved. 74.77.168.149 17:29, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Such exciting newsDo you think another Royal wedding is in the works? And can you believe they flew commercial (and all economy class, to boot)? And do you think they ate the tunafish or the chicken sandwich? I'm betting they ordered the tuna, just to be polite, but didn't really eat anything. Jeffpw 20:23, 13 October 2007 (UTC) Usurpation Buddha ← IamMcLovinWJBscribe, could you look over the comments I posted on the usurp page and respond them? Thanks, IamMcLovin 04:14, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
RE:My Talk PageThanks for the revert. I have already warned the editor and reported the IP address. Thanks again!
As a very new admin, I blocked for 24 hours as a precaution. Thanks for the follow-up of an indef block. Bearian 00:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Protection QuestionGood day. ^_^ I was wondering if it would at all be possible to make it so a page can only be edited by clicking the top "Edit" button, as opposed to the individual "Edit" tags at each heading. Recently, I, and some others, have experienced some problems with the List of ThunderClan Cats page. There were these "family trees" put onto the official website, but the editor has since stated that they were put up against her wishes, and that they are false. We removed all information from these trees, but many people continue adding the info back in. And it's rather obvious now that barely anyone but dedicated editors check edit summaries, or they would have noticed us saying the trees are false. I may be digressing now, so back to the main point. We put a warning at the top of the page for whenever people would edit it, but, they're using the header edit buttons, and it would be near impossible to put a warning in everywhere. So, if it could be made so they could only edit through that button, that would be great, because then they would see the warning (Well, one would hope. I know barely any people read those at all, but it might improve things). -- ~|ET|~( Talk| Contribs) 01:03, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
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Mediation BuddyHi, I volunteered to mediate the Pro-pedophile activism case two days ago, and several members have stated that they think I would make a good mediator, but have expressed concern about my lack of inexperience. I was wondering if perhaps you might have the time to check in on things every now and then, and comment as need to, or step in if it got over my head, since you listed yourself for the buddy system. I don't think I will have too much trouble, but I feel it might aid the parties involved in coming to a conclusion over whether or not I make a suitable mediator if they have the reassurance of a more experienced mediator if I don't work out. Please note, they haven't even exactly decided amongst themselves whether they want another mediator to aid me, or me as a mediator at all, but I want to have the option of suggesting this if you think you would have the time for it. If not, I'll ask someone else. Thank you for your time. justice 01:57, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
RevertThat is a valid point, and coming from yourself, a point I will consider seriously. I apologise if I have caused disruption by my actions. However, the user has demonstrated the point I wished to make. I wanted to participate in a discussion elsewhere, I was insulted for my wish for a civil discussion. Do you think that his comments were appropriate? eg. [13] I am seriously dismayed at the hostile fashion in which editors are conducting themselves, the language is inappropriate and, as I stated, it does not inspire further discussion. If he is an admin, he should be giving a better example of good conduct in my view. He censored the discussion, and is at liberty to continue this unproductive behaviour. If wish to comment on that, I would interested to hear your view. A mere request, I know you are busy I would be happy to write an essay on my views, I do not expect you to chase through talk page histories. I do think that many would be driven away from community discussion, if not off wikipedia altogether. Little consideration, or indeed motivation, seems to exist with regard to this point. It has become a sort of online combat in places, this can only encourage disruptive users to participate. This is no slur against yourself, the little I know of you is that you are worthy of respect. Sorry for the rambling, but I sign this as ... Yours faithfully, Cygnis insignis 15:31, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
(ec)Sorry, Cygnis insignis came gunning for me out of nowhere and I fell for it. Three years in, I should (and almost always do) know better. The issue is actually an MfD I started today. I don't know what interest the user has in the outcome, but s/he appeared on it commenting that the nomination was disruptive in itself. Ah ha, says I, providing the non-disruptive version as requested. My mistake: the user had an axe to grind, so my joke and my pantless sig (it's true - I'm wearing rather comfortable baggy shorts) plus my general, ahem, flippant tone (I'm so not taking this place 100% seriously post-wikibreak, so it's not wrong :o) was a red rag. Next, I'm getting a formal, final warning for incivility. Then the user noticed I was an admin. Oh, dear Jimbo. I thought s/he was joking, or a mentalist or something, and said the former. Boy, did I get a slapping. Least said, soonest mended, away with the user and their "conduct unbecoming an admin" and "talking like you're in a public bar, not a public forum". In the end, I blanked the discussion, especially as the user said they'd finished and would never visit again. Then I got on with some actual paid work. So, here I am, saying sorry to you for you getting dragged in to something I still don't quite understand. Nevertheless, I remain pantless, flippant and unadminlike. But perhaps older and a bit wiser. Although I'm off to Amsterdam (amongst other places) on Thursday, where I will be pantless, flippant and unadminlike for a whole ten days. But with less evident criticism at the time :o) ➔ REDVEЯS isn't wearing pants 19:34, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Congratulations on your admin botThere is one precaution that would probably be worthwhile: calling for human decision when a broken redirect has a non-empty talk-page. I have occasionally left notes for a future article on the talk-page of a non-existent article, when what I had found would not be an article in itself; these are subject to CSD if anyone wants to; but it should be a human making that decision. (If you're already doing this, so much the better.) Septentrionalis PMAnderson 16:53, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Delete away..What, and destroy the only memory I have remaining of the first time I used the arv button in TW for anything other than reporting vandals?! Nah, just kidding. Delete away. -- Jaysweet 20:53, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
re Kizor's RfAYou recorded yourself as Neutral, pending Kizor's responses to Q's 4 & 6. Just to let you know that the questions have been answered. LessHeard vanU 20:51, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Woolmer HillThanks for putting it out of its misery - my first impulse was correct. After moving it, cleaning it up and so on, there was nothing left and no sources to expand it. I'm not sure why Storm Rider was so attached to it. Acroterion (talk) 00:44, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
CambridgeI see you studied law at Cambridge. I'm applying to study there now and was wondering if you had any tips. It it means anything, I'm applying to King's College as an affliated senior status international student. Cheers. Mbisanz 02:03, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank you...for your help in semi-protecting the American Revolutionary War article and its companions for two weeks. The relief is tangible - the problems just stopped cold two days ago. You have given me (& other editors) a nice respite. You wrote, "Hopefully the kids will have found a new historical interest by then..." May it be so, though I mainly saw newcomers, seldom repeat offenders. For the time being, at least, you have given me back as much as an hour a day better devoted to more constructive purposes, and I appreciate that. All the best, Hertz1888 19:16, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
How to ask for a CU clerk to do something without using IRC?Hi. see User_talk:Lar#HC_and_SPs. That last request of IP42's is particularly poorly formed, and needs a clerk to straighten it out. It's not embedded in the main RFCU page yet (thank goodness). What's the best way to ask for help from some clerk or another without leaving messages on every clerk's page when you can't just dart into IRC ? Thanks! ++ Lar: t/ c 11:51, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
I am sorry.I am sorry, you unprotected Swadhyay Parivar. Swadhyay Parivar has turned to crime. They have killed one old dedicated Swadhyayee - Pankaj Trivedi and took control of wealth by forcefully (use of muscle power) replacing nearly 70 dedicated trustees. Pankaj Trivedi was exposing wrongs and filing civil suits to audit the accounts of Swadhyay Parivar which has funds in millions of $. The money donated to reconstruct houses damaged during massive earthquake in India, were never used. The criminals and/or novice followers of Swadhyay Parivar desire to keep glorifying article on Swadhyay Parivar in the Wikipedia. I was a follower of this organisation and moved in Indian villages for the mission and am also a witness to the rot. I believe, if the article on Swadhyay Parivar has to be on Wikipedia, it has to be with the facts of it's present criminal activities. I hope, you will agree that Wikipedia can not be allowed to be used to glorify criminals or criminal organisations. I have brought back article to earlier protected stage. swadhyayee 19:40, 20 October 2007 (UTC) Bot flaggingNo problem - thanks for the heads-up. Warofdreams talk 00:15, 21 October 2007 (UTC) InvitationYou are cordially invited to attend one of the greatest pop events of 2008 or any other year: Westlife's March 1st concert at the O2 arena in support of their fantastic new album! Dev and I are going to go, and were wondering if you and Raystorm might want to meet up for it, too. Let me know soon, as tickets are sure to sell out in seconds of their release (and I am not kidding--did you hear how fast the Spicegirls tickets sold out??!!?? Headspinning). Jeffpw 21:39, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Dunin 3Fully realizing this case is getting quite long in the tooth, I would nonetheless ask you to please consider the situation of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stanley Dunin 3 in a bit more detail. You may note that in a previous discussion, ( Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stanley Dunin 2) I initially expressed sentiments quite close to those you have expressed in this current discussion. I eventually changed my opinion, though. Whereas it is possible that some primary sources exist that could be used to show this person's notability, it appears it would take a historical researcher to uncover them. And here's the major realization for me: Wikipedia is not the correct place for information about subjects that require additional historical research. It is only the proper place for encyclopedic material about historical research that has already been conducted. We agree "this man is not a figment of someone's imagination." But that he clearly exists is not sufficient for an article about him to exist. You wrote, "The problem is that the sourcing needs to be improved." And frankly, I now disagree: the needed sources don't yet exist. Someone -- a historian -- needs to write about this subject. Then we can properly include this subject in Wikipedia, citing the work of that historian. You also wrote, "The article seems harmless and frankly there are worse ones out there." That WP:OTHERSTUFF exists is not compelling. More to the point, precisely because deletion of this article has received so much attention, it will certainly be a precedent for many other decisions. We need to make it correctly. You are an influential editor, and I am clearly not the only person who truly respects your opinion. So again I invite you to reconsider your comments! Sincerely, ( sdsds - talk) 20:10, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
It appears the discussion is now closed. I was aware that my comments would find themselves in a minority and they were not intended to persuade. I did however wish to note that I felt the subject met our notability standards (academics and engineers seem to face rather a higher hurdle than modern popstars, that is regretable) and that sourcing could establish this. In my opinion, outright deletion in a case such a this should occur where information is unverifiable not merely unverified. The idea that a historian is required to write about a person for them to become notable is aburd - how many modern bios are of people who will be remembered in 10 years time let alone 100. Should material come to light that conferms Dunin's role in the project - i.e. something along the lines of calculating the most fuel efficient way of launching such a satelite, I would likely advocate its recreation. I certainly don't apologise for holding a minority opinion in that discussion. WjB scribe 16:53, 24 October 2007 (UTC) The sockThis is a real sock, not a puppet sock. The sock the paparazzo was wearing when Britney ran over him is now up for auction. Better bid while you can. It's still under US$1500.00 Personally, I wouldn't pay that much for a pap's sock. Now if it were Britney's underpants I might consider it...but only because they're so damned elusive I am beginning to think they don't really exist. Jeffpw 21:31, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Some discussion about a block you have been involved inThere is a discussion going on about a block you have been involved in. You might be aware, but if you are not, the discussion is held here. Martijn Hoekstra 13:56, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Cleaning up redlinks after redirects are deletedIs this the sort of thing the bot will delete? It does need deletion, but it is used on several pages where the links (and maybe even the name) may need to be removed. The article that redirect pointed at recently got deleted at AfD, but there is a long clean-up process in place. See here. My question is whether the bot deleting redirects makes clean-up more difficult? Some editors may be relying on following what links here to find out where links were inserted, so they can then remove them. ie. From the AfD, use "what links here". If the redirect is deleted before its existence is noted, how do you find the links that pointed at the redirect? Carcharoth 20:43, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Question about UsurpationHi WJBscribe, I'm currently awaiting consideration for a usurpation name change, but I'd just like to ask a quick question just to find out if i'm wasting my time. The user in question is Spartan, a sockpuppet of Mjgm84, a user that has been indefinitely blocked or banned. Apparently, either Spartan never made any [ edits] or they have all been switched to Mjgm84. Now, my question is, now that Spartan has no contributions, either way, will they allow me to usurp? If you can get back to me as soon as possible I'd really appreciate it. Thanks, Kevin 00:33, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
About the socks attacking User talk:Misza13Is there anyone around who can do a quick checkuser on them? I'm willing to be that they're all from the 91.108 range, that is the badger vandal/ User:The JPS hater vandal. Is there any way we can block all these sleepers from that range? Gscshoyru 00:13, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Cleaning some old businessHi WJBscribe, I have left several messages to a few editors regarding some old business [14] [15] [16] (mainly apologizing for past actions/situations.) Because that is still editing, I strongly feel it would be inappropriete for my talk and user page to still be protected. Would you mind unprotecting those two pages? It's not that I am coming back, but there were I few things that I wanted to amend to.-- U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. 01:28, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
I've unprotected them - I doubt any harm's been done at al. WjB scribe 10:12, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
{{ LGBT sidebar}}Hi Scibe! There's discussion going on about your recent edit to this template. Well, not about YOUR edit, but about the issue of intersexuality. See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_LGBT_studies#Template:LGBT sidebar. I reverted your edit pending a consensus of the discussion. Thanks. -- ALLSTAR ECHO 16:47, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
A little helpHey Scribe - do you think you could help me with this request: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Changing_username#DavidShankBone_.E2.86.92_David_Shankbone --David Shankbone 03:35, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank youOMG lmao!!! I'm dying laughing at your comment on jeff's talk page... re: you were just asking for reliable sources that said so. That is the funniest thing that I have seen. Thank you for making me laugh. That comment where you made that tiny typo should stay forever in Wikipedia history. At your expense, of course, and for my funny bone. LOL. ~ Jeeny (talk) 07:26, 27 October 2007 (UTC) Semi-protection / other requestHi WJBscribe, I saw you've declined all the semi protections I have requested. I understand your arguments. I've asked for semi-protection on user Stifle's advice, (s)he advised me on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR (see here). When I saw your comment on one of the edit warriors' talk page (Scipo) (You said you have no problem with blocking all of the other warriors IPs) I thought maybe you could help me out. Would you please take a look at the Administrators' noticeboard/3RR page (click)? I've contacted Stifle but (s)he had no time to take a look at my research. I really would appreciate it! Cheers Kameejl ( Talk) 17:47, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Crediting translatorsI am pretty sure (as someone involved in quite a bit of Fr/En translation on Wikipedia) that we do not reference translators in articles. Could you point me to the policy or precedent that we do? WjB scribe 15:36, 27 October 2007 (UTC) The "MLA Handbook", or "A Writer's Reference," Third Edition by Diana Hacker, pg 278. Mindraker 21:07, 27 October 2007 (UTC) I'm perfectly OK with the Polish Biographical Dictionary. I want it there -- it's just I had no way of verifying the material in it -- now, "theoretically", I could download the article and verify the information if I wanted to spend $12. Sorry if I got a little riled up on that one. Mindraker 12:04, 28 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mindraker ( talk • contribs) Page protectionThanks for semi-protecting my user page. -- Jtalledo (talk) 01:38, 28 October 2007 (UTC) Bot flaggingNo problem - I've now flagged them. Feel free to ask any evening when I'm on line. Warofdreams talk 02:51, 28 October 2007 (UTC) WJBscribeHey, You may have noticed me at Wikipedia:Changing username. I just wanted to drop by and say hello, we always used to get along rather well, and hopefully we can put the past behind us, and hopefully be friends, like we used to be. I do hope so :) Cheers, Qst 17:24, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi WJBscribe, do you think it would be a good idea to add this involuntary desysoping to the former administrators list? [17]-- U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. 21:25, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
I guess so. Done. WjB scribe 21:30, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Derren Brown[19] He's not in a cat, nor does his article say anything about his sexuality. Expand, please? -- SatyrTN ( talk | contribs) 22:11, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
AdminshipThanks for the compliment. I will let you know if I ever decide that I'm willing to be put up for adminship. Cheers, Pete.Hurd 22:46, 28 October 2007 (UTC) Successful RfA - Thank you!Thank you for supporting my recent RfA. It was successful, and I was promoted to Administrator today. I appreciate the support! — KieferSkunk ( talk) — 23:10, 28 October 2007 (UTC) This above RfA has been protected(pending on the outcome). But since it's now closed, does it still need protection?-- U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. 00:15, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
My RfAThank you for participating in my RfA. As you are aware, it was closed with "no consensus". Since your vote was one of the reasons why it did not succeed, I would like to personally address your concerns so that I can reapply successfully.
Please let me know if this resolves your concerns. — Remember the dot ( talk) 01:02, 29 October 2007 (UTC) User PageHi WJB, how are you ? I noticed your user page and I am impressed. It looks really awesome. So I was wondering if I can take your template and use it to make my own user page ? I will, of course, give you credit if I am allowed to use it. Thanks and best regards. Watchdogb 02:15, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
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AhemI trust those exacting standards will now be exercised by you on all articles you edit? That anything that a reference does not assert will be deleted wholesale, no questions, no prods, no tags? Benjiboi 14:58, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
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Sorry for the tardiness in sending the Signpost this week. -- Ral315 You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot 15:05, 29 October 2007 (UTC) A humble requestHello WBJS I remember you had meditated a case relating to Sri Lankan Civil War. I am wondering if you can comment on issues relating to these articles. I know most people are reluctant to comment on these issued because they are afraid that they do not know much about the Conflict. However, I am wondering if you can comment on some Rules and claim if citations are RS or not (only based on wikipedia rules). You see, I am asking for help from various people because I have pleaded to stick to wikipedia rules and stop any type of edit warring. It will be a lot of help if you could. Thanks Watchdogb 18:16, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes, certainly a particular source UTHR has been questioned by another user. I will add below what the other say RS say about the citation. It would be helpful if you can comment about it.
This is something another admin has found:
Last, the two people who are running UTHR right now have won the Martin Ennals Award for Human Rights Defenders for 2007. Watchdogb 18:49, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
No, from what I just read from UTHR what happened was that LTTE decided to evacuate the Police from the eastern district of Sri Lanka Trincomalee. This lead to fighting between the Police and the LTTE and the Police decided to surrender to the LTTE. The police were taken to the Jungle and massacred by an LTTE Cadre (name Cashier). UTHR claims that the LTTE leader in that area did not give orders for the massacre but it happened nevertheless. In the later days the LTTE were forced out of the town of Kalmunai by the Sri Lankan Army. When the Sri Lankan Army took control of the town they massacred the civilians there. A local member of Parliment said that over 160 civilians were massacred by the Army but UTHR, which did more research and took information of the missing, claimed that at least 260 people were killed and in all over 1000 civilians (not police) were killed or have been missing. Watchdogb 19:55, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi, an editor commented about this protection at ANI. Since apparently there is some dirt hidden somewhere, could you take a look and decide whether or not the template can now be unprotected? Thanks! -- lucasbfr talk 11:16, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Benjiboi continues with his anti-Catholic agenda in the Sister Roma articleBenjiboi has seen fit to include a picture in the Sister Roma article which depicts an event mocking the Passion of Jesus Christ. The article is not about that event, it is about the drag fag Michael Williams. Whether or not Williams co-hosted that event is irrelevant. Articles about persons -- term used loosely in the case of Williams -- ought to have pictures of that person, not events s/he has hosted. The only reason Benjiboi had for including the picture is to give presence and greater notoriety to an anti-Catholic event. In this way he fulfills his anti-Catholic agenda. 72.68.30.122 15:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
OK, WjBscribe, here ya go. Within this post, Williams = Roma. Starting from the top: Michael Williams may have been born December 22nd, but nobody was born on that day with the name cited in the infobox; "Sister ROMA! There's No Place Like Rome or simply Sister Roma" is not found in the next reference cited, nor is there anything which says "Sister Roma" is a contracted form of the more lengthly name -- so why cite that source?; "best known" and "most visible" is POV; Williams may be the first "Sister" of SPI to be "elevated and veiled," but not the first Sister anywhere to have done so -- I would think the first Sister to do so did so many hundreds of years ago, and in a place very different than SF; the STOP the Violence Campaign was intro'd to combat hate crimes throughout the city, but the reference cited does not say "to combat hate crimes...on college campuses"; the next reference cited does not say Williams has done coverage of the GayVN awards; reference (8) does not say Williams judged a Drag King contest; reference (10) does not say Williams was emcee at "the world's largest BDSM/leather event" -- only "the world's biggest leather fair"; reference (12) does not say the holiday dinners were served at Thanksgiving and Christmas; and there isn't anything at reference (16), as it is linked, that says Williams writes for them. Does this prove my point, that the article is not properly sourced? Why cite a source if the material is not found in the source? -- simply to give the impression of greater notoriety to the subject, Williams. This is the work of Benjiboi. Hence the deletions, because in the absence of proper sourcing, the material is OR. 72.68.30.122 21:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Veropedia article deletionHi, you deleted the Veropedia article, I would like to propose it for AfD, and let the community decide on this important subject. please replay. QuantumShadow 19:01, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Username change requestHey, thanks for formatting this username change request, I was going to do it, but then I thought that they should do it, if we were going to take the time to rename them, then they should file the request properly, maybe I'm just evil, though :) Qst 21:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Off thin ice?So am I off thin ice now? Is is sufficient that I participate on recent changes patrol by reverting vandalism on articles, or is that not enought to satisfy the concerns raised? Veiw my most recent contribs. I just want to know if I'm going on the proper track now, so that I won't receive a huge complaint about this issue in the future, about not contributing to the encyclopedia.-- U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. 22:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
My (KWSN's) RFAThank you for supporting my recent (and successful!) RfA. It passed at at 55/17/6. Kwsn (Ni!) 01:09, 31 October 2007 (UTC) Hi WJBscribe, Please change my username to SouthIndian1964 if the newname Globalwarming2007 is causing problems. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bendakallinaooru ( talk • contribs) 07:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC) Problems with 0845 number... again!Hey, 0845 and 0870 number became unprotected today following your previous protection. I've made a radical overhaul of 0845 number, and it has been commented on that it looks a lot better now. Unfortunately, anonymous users keep reverting the page again! I just wanted your advice on how to proceed with this. I don't really want to have it fully protected again, but I guess that might be the only way. ~~ [Jam] [talk] 00:06, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
CIMI-FM translationHi. I notice you are a proofreader for French-to-English translations, and I was wondering if you could check over my work in translating fr:CIMI-FM to CIMI-FM. After looking at Wikipedia:Translation, I'm not really clear on the best way to request proofreading on a page that wasn't submitted to the translation project to begin with, so if you don't have time, feel free to pass this on to anyone else or to tag it appopriately. DHowell 06:11, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I should have said...Re: Saints Sergius and Bacchus: Actually, she did comment on the talk page this last time. Sorry for not mentioning it. Aleta 21:38, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
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Wikipedia has a new administrator!Oh My God!The judge took Britney's kids away from her! Words fail me (but I will be on all the Britney forums this evening/night, finding the words after all!). Wow! Fed-ex getting custody--what is the world coming to?!? Jeffpw 21:44, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Hot 100 number-one hits of 2007 (USA)Howdy! I noticed you unprotected Hot 100 number-one hits of 2007 (USA).... I'm just letting you know that if I place it back into protected status I'm not attempting to undermine your decision... this particular page comes under a heavy barrage of edits and incorrect info/speculation on a weekly basis (moreso than the lists for other charts or countries or past years), mostly anon IPs, and most of the time before any chart has been confirmed or published (which is why it was protected in the first place).... anyhoo, most of the activity starts on Tues or Wed nights so I'm gonna keep my eye on it :-) See ya later! - eo 01:13, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
AdminsI'm not going to apologize for what I've been doing, however I am going to make sure all my vandalism gets reverted (if someone else hasn't already). Editors have no course of action against admins who quite frankly have no idea how to use their administrative powers properly. I'm a good case study of a good editor who has made significant constructive contributions with my regular username, only to become frustrated by the elitism and poor judgment to the point of defacing the encyclopedia. I know what I do as an anon IP is simple and easy to just click on the undo button; all the damage goes away into a endless archive. However, the newbies and regular editors who put untold hours of volunteer work into creating an encyclopedia can't simply revert their mindset towards the whole unfortunate situation. Thats all I have to say. If you like, I'll provide my own username and you can indef block it, and I'll stay blocked. Sorry for wasting your time. 70.247.252.60 03:51, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Please unprotect Seattle, WashingtonAccording to Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection#Current_requests_for_unprotection, the admin who protected a page should be asked to do the unprotection when it is time to do so. Could you unprotect Seattle, Washington? Thanks. 68.167.255.104 06:53, 2 October 2007 (UTC).
Courtesy blanking of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mzoli's MeatsHi, WJBscribe. I see that you and ^demon ( talk · contribs) blanked Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mzoli's Meats, but I don't quite understand why. The presence of some bad-faith comments on that page doesn't seem a sufficient reason for hiding its contents from casual visitors. Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Courtesy blanking allows for a page to be blanked for reasons such as invasion of privacy, libel and emotional distress — but I don't see any of those reasons applying to the Mzoli's AfD. In general, I don't think it's a good idea to blank Wikipedia process pages, especially when they've gained media attention: to the casual viewer, it will appear as if we're trying to hide dirty laundry. Other folks are also asking about the blanking at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Mzoli's Meats, and you may wish to comment there. If there's something about this that you'd rather not discuss on-wiki, you can email me via the "email this user" link on my user page. However, unless there's more here than meets the eye, it looks to me as if there's not a lot of support for this courtesy blanking, and you might want to reconsider it. Thanks. — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 07:50, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
I take your point about those who comment on the talk page not necessarily being representative of the community as a whole. I'll bring the matter up at AN/I. However, I felt that since ^demon was the admin who had originally blanked the page, and he said he had no objection to the blanking being reverted, the matter would be uncontroversial. Whose privacy are you trying to protect? Jimbo's? As I said on the talk page, I really don't think that's necessary. — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 19:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
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Removal of Foundation copyrighted imagesHi, could you explain this edit? I'm not aware of any consensus that prohibits the use of Foundation copyrighted images in userspace. Any discussions I have seen suggests that they should not be treated the same as other unfree images. I'm not aware there has either been a change in local consensus or any directive from the Foundation prohibiting their use... WjB scribe 04:15, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
You There???Why did you do that??? Connubbialis
CHU/UHey, I redid the requests section, but I don't really volunteer there frequently, what are your thoughts? Regards, Mercury 17:49, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi! I was looking over Portal:LGBT/Quotes and its related template Portal:LGBT/Quotetemp and noticed you created Portal:LGBT/Quotetemp and installed it to Portal:LGBT/Quotes. We've added a great many new quotes to LGBT/Quotes over the last few weeks but they aren't showing up, just showing the older quotes that were there before the addition of new ones. Does this have something to do with the settings in LGBT/Quotetemp? Thanks. -- ALLSTAR ECHO 20:05, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Hope You Don't MindThis edit. It SHOULD be treated with respect after all. :) - Warthog Demon 22:34, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
MC ApplicationI'm likely going to get rejected considering the 10 minutes I speant actually typing, but it's done now. FinalWish 01:56, 5 October 2007 (UTC) I now accept your offerHello, It's been a while, but I've now moved back to the UK and settled into my new hall of residence, with the internet running. I will now accept your offer (dating back to August) to nominate me for RFA. Thanks.-- Alasdair 08:18, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for answering my plaintive cry so quickly. :) Abtract 01:11, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
To Speak, was screen at Montreal Festival amendment. An editor has asked for a deletion review of To Speak. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Jesslynism 07:35, 6 October 2007 (UTC) AfDSigh... okay, then I guess you can reopen it. I just didn't see the point, as you addressed my major consideration about navigability of categories, and all that's left now is people talking about how "gay people need this list to know there are other gay people out there" keep votes. I just don't see how the outcome would change either way. David Fuchs ( talk) 17:41, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Bot flags?It looks like there are several. Am I wrong? -- Cecropia 03:16, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
User:P usurpationI am doing some checking on sockpuppets over at en:Wikiquote by seeing if there are similar names here on Wikipedia. I noticed that you posted a notice on 11 July 2007, currently at User talk:P#Request for Usurpation, for usurpation of a username. I'm not clear on what an usurpation looks like after the fact, so I don't know if "P" is (A) the original username that was not usurped, despite the lack of reply from P on this page; or (B) the end-result of the usurpation, with no mention of the original username. I checked the WP:CHU archives for both "Rejected/Unfulfilled" and "Usurpations" in the 11-18 July timeframe, but saw no mention of "P" or of any requested username change that seemed to suggest "P" might be involved. Could you tell me what happened here, or at least point me to the appropriate records? Thank you for your help. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 11:02, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Bot RFAWJBScribe, I've added a questions at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/RedirectCleanupBot. It may seem obvious, but was a matter of issue with past requests of this sort. Please ping me via talk if you choose to reply. Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 21:50, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Do you find
false accusations not uncivil?
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[2] And from
WP:CIVIL#Examples: "More serious examples include…Calling for bans or blocks."
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Can you look at a block?User talk:Haiduc. One week for a snarky edit summary seems a bit extreme. According to established policy, Blocks are used to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, not to punish users. This definitely seems punitive to me. I have no doubt that 1==2 is a well meaning Wikipedian ( :-) ), but I do doubt if blocking an established editor who has never been blocked before for one week is helpful to the editor or the project. Thanks. Jeffpw 08:02, 8 October 2007 (UTC) Quick favour?Hi there, ho ho, I believe we have yet never met, never a better time than the present. G'day to you! Well since you are one of the admins active at the moment, I would like to request a small favour; can you please delete my user page; I will recreate it after you delete it. Thanks a lot! Phgao 10:39, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Admin question...I am a member of WikiProject Professional Wrestling, because the majority of my edits are wrestling related articles. Is it possible to become an administrator for this project, and if so, how would I go about doing that? Hiphopchamp 13:10, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Regarding userpation Niaz <- Niaz_bdToday I applied for a userpation from Niaz_bd to Niaz. I didn't know that user Niaz had some contributions on WP though those edits have been deleted later. Now the scenario is, Niaz does not have any existing edit other then those deleted contributions on WP and even he didn't create his own userpage/usertalk. He doesn't have any email address as well. In such case will it be possible for me get migrated to that username? I'll be extremely grateful if you kindly advise me what to do next. Kind regards, -- Niaz (Talk • Contribs) 18:20, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks manFor cleaning up the comments here. I was half tempted to specially after I saw people who opposed did the exact same thing (ironically that included you). Kwsn (Ni!) 12:31, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Random thing on former adminsHi, I'm on an extended vacation, but I noticed your recent removal of the "controversial circumstances" marker from several folks on the former admin page. While your rationale -- that b'crats have discretion over such matters -- is entirely correct, I disagree with some of the removals. For former admins who have already failed a new RfA, a b'crat has already determined (sometimes, by stipulation of the candidate), that controversial circumstances exist. Ref 2 implies Ref 1, in other words. Jtkiefer is a special case -- he avoided being banned (by b'crat Taxman) only by agreeing to a future RfA and the disclosing of any name changes, even under the right to vanish before being readminned. Essjay is likewise a special case -- given the circumstances of his resignation (forced by Jimbo, basically), I submit that it is right to make him a "controversial candidate" also. I will now make changes to return the list to a clearer state, marking the cases that have already been determined to be controversial by a b'crat or Jimbo. Best wishes, Xoloz 15:59, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Your response to an editor's voteWJBscribe, hello. I noticed you left this response [5] to a RfA vote by Proabivouac. It comes across to me as threatening and harsh. Please explain to me why you see such a response as necessary.-- Fahrenheit451 16:44, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
The response was not in relation to a vote (RfA isn't a vote anyway) it was a comment on his disruptive allegations he made elsewhere on the RfA page which is part of an ongoing pattern of disruption by Proabivouac ever since it was revealed that he had been sanctioned by ArbCom under a previous username and had returned under this one thereby avoiding those ArbCom sanctions. I would advise you to stay clear of the matter if you are not in possession of all the facts. WjB scribe 17:51, 10 October 2007 (UTC) WJBscribe, my purpose for asking you was to clarify your response. I thank you for giving me some of the relevant facts. On the RfAs, one does support, oppose, or take a neutral stance, so there is a vote involved. I see nothing particularly disruptive about his comments on Jehochman's RfA page. He does protest what he perceives as some injustices involving unnamed admins. Perhaps that is not the best page for placing that comment and to that extent, it may be inappropriate.-- Fahrenheit451 17:59, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
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05:42, 11 October 2007 (UTC) PS-please leeve any response on my talk page. Thanks My recent RfAI am sorry you felt it necessary to oppose my recent RfA, which did not succeed. I have seen you around and respect your judgment, and to see you oppose my RfA truly saddens me. Especially your harsh words about me not having experience in any area related to administrator work simply isn't true and astounds me. It is true I haven't participated in XfDs, but, indeed, I have tagged articles as candidates for speedy deletion. I have reported users to WP:AIV, and my bot has reported many, many users to AIV. Is not vandal fighting part of an administrator's job? I have done a fair amount of that, and my bot has done so much more. Furthermore, isn't blocking open proxies the job of an administrator? I am a verified open proxy checker, and participate at WP:OP. You also expressed concerns about my article writing experience, while it is true that I haven't written much, I don't see why article writing is a prerequisite to being an administrator. The administrator tools are more for cleaning up (thus the term "mop") rather than writing other articles. I will attempt to get more experience in the main namespace and the Wikipedia namespace and will try again for RfA in two month's time. I hope I will have satisfied your concerns by then, but if not, please comment as you feel you should. Thanks for participating in my RfA. -- Cobi( t| c| b| cn) 08:20, 11 October 2007 (UTC) RedirectCleanupBot's RFA was successfulCongratulations, RedirectCleanupBot, a bot you will be operating, is now the first fully automated administrator! -- Deskana (talk) 20:55, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Splicing/movingHi WJBscribe. How do I move the contents and history at User:Rcktmanil/Feast of Fools (podcast) (draft) to Feast of Fools (podcast) so as to perserve the history of both User:Rcktmanil/Feast of Fools (podcast) (draft) and Feast of Fools (podcast)? Thanks. -- Jreferee t/ c 01:58, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
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Delivered on 17:31, 11 October 2007 (UTC). Doh!Gah! I completely got my days wrong of what day the bot's RfA ended, lol. I fully intended to add a support opinion, especially after your great answer to my question, but I got distracted, and it completely slipped my mind. Well, not that you needed another support, that was a very impressive turnout. I guess I can just offer my congrats for you to pass along to the bot, lol. Ariel ♥ Gold 12:35, 12 October 2007 (UTC) RFA Thank You Note from Jehochman
Request for UsurpationHi Will, I asked to usurp '9' and I see you processed it and we are now awaiting the magic wand being waved. Only problem is - it hasn't. Seems a bit strange to have this incredibly long, drawn out and self-important process that then isn't followed by the very system it is supposed to assist. I'm not whining, but can you suggest someone I could take this issue to so I/m not waiting for another week? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Darth Doctrinus ( talk • contribs) 00:34, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
U2 album article...Hi WJB. I'm a bit confused about this article. I thought it had been deleted. There is an afd with your name on it saying it had gone. Can you clarify it for me please? cheers. -- Merbabu 08:02, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Thorny redirect problemHi there. I'm currently creating lots of redirects to biographical articles. The story here is that people can be linked in several different ways, with redirects taking people to where the article is (as I'm sure you know). For example: Carl S. Marvel and Carl Shipp Marvel. Such redirects are often needed when people are credited in references to journal articles, or listed in lists of awards copied from a website (in such cases it is sometimes important to retain the exact original phrasing of the name). This creation of redirects should be done by people creating the biographical article, but as you can see from my sweep through Willard Gibbs Award (see [6], [7], [8], [9], [10]), this is often not the case. I did something similar for Royal Medal. The problem I sometimes come across is articles where redlinks exist, but the article hasn't been created yet. I'm then stuck with either creating a stub (which is annoying if I don't have time to do this), or leaving the redirects uncreated. If I created them, of course, your new master would delete them... :-) Here is a concrete example of that: W. Albert Noyes, Jr. ( what links here) and William Albert Noyes, Jr. ( what links here). Both are valid ways to write the name. At the moment I've noted on the awards pages that he is the son of William A. Noyes, but what I wanted to do was create a redirect from W. Albert Noyes, Jr. to William Albert Noyes, Jr.. It seems that I can't do that, and what I will have to do is either create a small stub (ideally the redlink would wait for someone who had time to write a proper article), or redirect both to the father's article (again, that may impede the creation of a proper article). In case you are interested, I tried to create a redirect to a non-yet-written page before. The redirect was Ramsay H. Traquair. If you look at the page history and the page logs, you will see that I created it on 7 February 2007, and it was deleted on 10 February. I failed to notice until 18 July, when I started this discussion (now archived). This probably all shows up a fundamental failing of the current redirect system (a redirect to a page that has mainspace links in the "what links here" list should be treated as a redlink, not a broken redirect), but what happened in that case was that I wrote the stub Ramsay Heatley Traquair and politely requested undeletion of the redirect. The terse response was "it's recreated", and I said I didn't care either way, but I see that someone later undeleted the redirect (all this took place on 18 July). Right. That was a bit long! Hopefully you managed to get to the end of that. My question, in light of the recent RfA for your adminbot to delete broken redirects (congratulations on that), is what is the best way to deal with this sort of thing? Do you think that redirects should wait until there is an article, or not? If I see several different redlinks referring to the same person, can the relationship between these redlinks (a relationship that would normally be noted by creating redirects between them) be noted anywhere for future reference? Carcharoth 14:18, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
OK, let me try and answer some of those points:
As an aside, one of the problems here in the recent aggression in deleting stubs. There should be nothing wrong with a short article on someone obviously notable without needing vast numbers of refs to confirm notability. Full professors, members of national governments, Nobel prozewinners etc. are by definition notable and having one sentence about them is better than nothing.... WjB scribe 16:14, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't think pre-creation discussion is a new idea, but it feels so elegant! See Talk:W. Albert Noyes, Jr. and Talk:William Albert Noyes, Jr.. Now, I'll just have to wait and see if those pages get deleted... Carcharoth 16:47, 12 October 2007 (UTC) AlohaAloha, WJBscribe. Thanks for closing Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Votes for banning. However, I am just wondering why and how you calculated a "delete" outcome, as nothing was stated on the MfD in your closure. It doesn't seem close to a consensus for delete. If it was the fact that it was a redirect to a now historical page, or that you were ignoring rules to better the encyclopedia, or some other explanation, a simple note saying so would be helpful. Mahalo nui loa. -- Ali'i 18:13, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks!Thanks for the protection on my 2 pages... -- Flaaaaaaaaaaaming! 05:31, 13 October 2007 (UTC) Jacques de MolayHi WJBscribe. Please note that User:Elonka started by reverting my edits for a more neutral version, and I think, a more appropriate placement inside the Crusades paragraph. As she reverted it, the image does not illustrate any text in the "Legends" paragraph. Regards. PHG 09:37, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Your recent bot approvals request has been approved. Please see the request page for details. When the bot flag is set it will show up in this log. That is when you are allowed to start your bot editing at the requested rate of 4EPM max. If you have any further questions, don't hesitate to contact me via talk page or IRC (as TheLetterE). — E talk bots 10:49, 13 October 2007 (UTC) Protection QuestionHi WJB, A question for you. Related to a recent point raised at AN/I [11] , there has been a struggle recently over what to do about episodes of a series called Farscape. These do not comply with our notability policy or our episode guideline and, after a lengthy discussion process (back and forth here: [ [12]]) I redirected per WP:EPISODE. This was reverted, etc... you can guess what follows. The question is: is page protection (either to prevent me from further redirecting or to maintain the redirect which I believe is a clear implementation of policy) a proper course of action. Basically, a committed group of fans is acting to stymie site-wide policy. Thanks for any thoughts you may have. Eusebeus 12:37, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm not particularly interested by whether these pages should be articles or redirects but the edit warring is unacceptable. I have fully protected the pages (in the state that I found them) until a consensus is reached as to what to do with them.... WjB scribe 12:48, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Phi Kappa Psi Mediation RequestPlease return to the Phi Kappa Psi mediation request. It was not resolved. 74.77.168.149 17:29, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Such exciting newsDo you think another Royal wedding is in the works? And can you believe they flew commercial (and all economy class, to boot)? And do you think they ate the tunafish or the chicken sandwich? I'm betting they ordered the tuna, just to be polite, but didn't really eat anything. Jeffpw 20:23, 13 October 2007 (UTC) Usurpation Buddha ← IamMcLovinWJBscribe, could you look over the comments I posted on the usurp page and respond them? Thanks, IamMcLovin 04:14, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
RE:My Talk PageThanks for the revert. I have already warned the editor and reported the IP address. Thanks again!
As a very new admin, I blocked for 24 hours as a precaution. Thanks for the follow-up of an indef block. Bearian 00:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Protection QuestionGood day. ^_^ I was wondering if it would at all be possible to make it so a page can only be edited by clicking the top "Edit" button, as opposed to the individual "Edit" tags at each heading. Recently, I, and some others, have experienced some problems with the List of ThunderClan Cats page. There were these "family trees" put onto the official website, but the editor has since stated that they were put up against her wishes, and that they are false. We removed all information from these trees, but many people continue adding the info back in. And it's rather obvious now that barely anyone but dedicated editors check edit summaries, or they would have noticed us saying the trees are false. I may be digressing now, so back to the main point. We put a warning at the top of the page for whenever people would edit it, but, they're using the header edit buttons, and it would be near impossible to put a warning in everywhere. So, if it could be made so they could only edit through that button, that would be great, because then they would see the warning (Well, one would hope. I know barely any people read those at all, but it might improve things). -- ~|ET|~( Talk| Contribs) 01:03, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
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Mediation BuddyHi, I volunteered to mediate the Pro-pedophile activism case two days ago, and several members have stated that they think I would make a good mediator, but have expressed concern about my lack of inexperience. I was wondering if perhaps you might have the time to check in on things every now and then, and comment as need to, or step in if it got over my head, since you listed yourself for the buddy system. I don't think I will have too much trouble, but I feel it might aid the parties involved in coming to a conclusion over whether or not I make a suitable mediator if they have the reassurance of a more experienced mediator if I don't work out. Please note, they haven't even exactly decided amongst themselves whether they want another mediator to aid me, or me as a mediator at all, but I want to have the option of suggesting this if you think you would have the time for it. If not, I'll ask someone else. Thank you for your time. justice 01:57, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
RevertThat is a valid point, and coming from yourself, a point I will consider seriously. I apologise if I have caused disruption by my actions. However, the user has demonstrated the point I wished to make. I wanted to participate in a discussion elsewhere, I was insulted for my wish for a civil discussion. Do you think that his comments were appropriate? eg. [13] I am seriously dismayed at the hostile fashion in which editors are conducting themselves, the language is inappropriate and, as I stated, it does not inspire further discussion. If he is an admin, he should be giving a better example of good conduct in my view. He censored the discussion, and is at liberty to continue this unproductive behaviour. If wish to comment on that, I would interested to hear your view. A mere request, I know you are busy I would be happy to write an essay on my views, I do not expect you to chase through talk page histories. I do think that many would be driven away from community discussion, if not off wikipedia altogether. Little consideration, or indeed motivation, seems to exist with regard to this point. It has become a sort of online combat in places, this can only encourage disruptive users to participate. This is no slur against yourself, the little I know of you is that you are worthy of respect. Sorry for the rambling, but I sign this as ... Yours faithfully, Cygnis insignis 15:31, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
(ec)Sorry, Cygnis insignis came gunning for me out of nowhere and I fell for it. Three years in, I should (and almost always do) know better. The issue is actually an MfD I started today. I don't know what interest the user has in the outcome, but s/he appeared on it commenting that the nomination was disruptive in itself. Ah ha, says I, providing the non-disruptive version as requested. My mistake: the user had an axe to grind, so my joke and my pantless sig (it's true - I'm wearing rather comfortable baggy shorts) plus my general, ahem, flippant tone (I'm so not taking this place 100% seriously post-wikibreak, so it's not wrong :o) was a red rag. Next, I'm getting a formal, final warning for incivility. Then the user noticed I was an admin. Oh, dear Jimbo. I thought s/he was joking, or a mentalist or something, and said the former. Boy, did I get a slapping. Least said, soonest mended, away with the user and their "conduct unbecoming an admin" and "talking like you're in a public bar, not a public forum". In the end, I blanked the discussion, especially as the user said they'd finished and would never visit again. Then I got on with some actual paid work. So, here I am, saying sorry to you for you getting dragged in to something I still don't quite understand. Nevertheless, I remain pantless, flippant and unadminlike. But perhaps older and a bit wiser. Although I'm off to Amsterdam (amongst other places) on Thursday, where I will be pantless, flippant and unadminlike for a whole ten days. But with less evident criticism at the time :o) ➔ REDVEЯS isn't wearing pants 19:34, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Congratulations on your admin botThere is one precaution that would probably be worthwhile: calling for human decision when a broken redirect has a non-empty talk-page. I have occasionally left notes for a future article on the talk-page of a non-existent article, when what I had found would not be an article in itself; these are subject to CSD if anyone wants to; but it should be a human making that decision. (If you're already doing this, so much the better.) Septentrionalis PMAnderson 16:53, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Delete away..What, and destroy the only memory I have remaining of the first time I used the arv button in TW for anything other than reporting vandals?! Nah, just kidding. Delete away. -- Jaysweet 20:53, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
re Kizor's RfAYou recorded yourself as Neutral, pending Kizor's responses to Q's 4 & 6. Just to let you know that the questions have been answered. LessHeard vanU 20:51, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Woolmer HillThanks for putting it out of its misery - my first impulse was correct. After moving it, cleaning it up and so on, there was nothing left and no sources to expand it. I'm not sure why Storm Rider was so attached to it. Acroterion (talk) 00:44, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
CambridgeI see you studied law at Cambridge. I'm applying to study there now and was wondering if you had any tips. It it means anything, I'm applying to King's College as an affliated senior status international student. Cheers. Mbisanz 02:03, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank you...for your help in semi-protecting the American Revolutionary War article and its companions for two weeks. The relief is tangible - the problems just stopped cold two days ago. You have given me (& other editors) a nice respite. You wrote, "Hopefully the kids will have found a new historical interest by then..." May it be so, though I mainly saw newcomers, seldom repeat offenders. For the time being, at least, you have given me back as much as an hour a day better devoted to more constructive purposes, and I appreciate that. All the best, Hertz1888 19:16, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
How to ask for a CU clerk to do something without using IRC?Hi. see User_talk:Lar#HC_and_SPs. That last request of IP42's is particularly poorly formed, and needs a clerk to straighten it out. It's not embedded in the main RFCU page yet (thank goodness). What's the best way to ask for help from some clerk or another without leaving messages on every clerk's page when you can't just dart into IRC ? Thanks! ++ Lar: t/ c 11:51, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
I am sorry.I am sorry, you unprotected Swadhyay Parivar. Swadhyay Parivar has turned to crime. They have killed one old dedicated Swadhyayee - Pankaj Trivedi and took control of wealth by forcefully (use of muscle power) replacing nearly 70 dedicated trustees. Pankaj Trivedi was exposing wrongs and filing civil suits to audit the accounts of Swadhyay Parivar which has funds in millions of $. The money donated to reconstruct houses damaged during massive earthquake in India, were never used. The criminals and/or novice followers of Swadhyay Parivar desire to keep glorifying article on Swadhyay Parivar in the Wikipedia. I was a follower of this organisation and moved in Indian villages for the mission and am also a witness to the rot. I believe, if the article on Swadhyay Parivar has to be on Wikipedia, it has to be with the facts of it's present criminal activities. I hope, you will agree that Wikipedia can not be allowed to be used to glorify criminals or criminal organisations. I have brought back article to earlier protected stage. swadhyayee 19:40, 20 October 2007 (UTC) Bot flaggingNo problem - thanks for the heads-up. Warofdreams talk 00:15, 21 October 2007 (UTC) InvitationYou are cordially invited to attend one of the greatest pop events of 2008 or any other year: Westlife's March 1st concert at the O2 arena in support of their fantastic new album! Dev and I are going to go, and were wondering if you and Raystorm might want to meet up for it, too. Let me know soon, as tickets are sure to sell out in seconds of their release (and I am not kidding--did you hear how fast the Spicegirls tickets sold out??!!?? Headspinning). Jeffpw 21:39, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Dunin 3Fully realizing this case is getting quite long in the tooth, I would nonetheless ask you to please consider the situation of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stanley Dunin 3 in a bit more detail. You may note that in a previous discussion, ( Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stanley Dunin 2) I initially expressed sentiments quite close to those you have expressed in this current discussion. I eventually changed my opinion, though. Whereas it is possible that some primary sources exist that could be used to show this person's notability, it appears it would take a historical researcher to uncover them. And here's the major realization for me: Wikipedia is not the correct place for information about subjects that require additional historical research. It is only the proper place for encyclopedic material about historical research that has already been conducted. We agree "this man is not a figment of someone's imagination." But that he clearly exists is not sufficient for an article about him to exist. You wrote, "The problem is that the sourcing needs to be improved." And frankly, I now disagree: the needed sources don't yet exist. Someone -- a historian -- needs to write about this subject. Then we can properly include this subject in Wikipedia, citing the work of that historian. You also wrote, "The article seems harmless and frankly there are worse ones out there." That WP:OTHERSTUFF exists is not compelling. More to the point, precisely because deletion of this article has received so much attention, it will certainly be a precedent for many other decisions. We need to make it correctly. You are an influential editor, and I am clearly not the only person who truly respects your opinion. So again I invite you to reconsider your comments! Sincerely, ( sdsds - talk) 20:10, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
It appears the discussion is now closed. I was aware that my comments would find themselves in a minority and they were not intended to persuade. I did however wish to note that I felt the subject met our notability standards (academics and engineers seem to face rather a higher hurdle than modern popstars, that is regretable) and that sourcing could establish this. In my opinion, outright deletion in a case such a this should occur where information is unverifiable not merely unverified. The idea that a historian is required to write about a person for them to become notable is aburd - how many modern bios are of people who will be remembered in 10 years time let alone 100. Should material come to light that conferms Dunin's role in the project - i.e. something along the lines of calculating the most fuel efficient way of launching such a satelite, I would likely advocate its recreation. I certainly don't apologise for holding a minority opinion in that discussion. WjB scribe 16:53, 24 October 2007 (UTC) The sockThis is a real sock, not a puppet sock. The sock the paparazzo was wearing when Britney ran over him is now up for auction. Better bid while you can. It's still under US$1500.00 Personally, I wouldn't pay that much for a pap's sock. Now if it were Britney's underpants I might consider it...but only because they're so damned elusive I am beginning to think they don't really exist. Jeffpw 21:31, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Some discussion about a block you have been involved inThere is a discussion going on about a block you have been involved in. You might be aware, but if you are not, the discussion is held here. Martijn Hoekstra 13:56, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Cleaning up redlinks after redirects are deletedIs this the sort of thing the bot will delete? It does need deletion, but it is used on several pages where the links (and maybe even the name) may need to be removed. The article that redirect pointed at recently got deleted at AfD, but there is a long clean-up process in place. See here. My question is whether the bot deleting redirects makes clean-up more difficult? Some editors may be relying on following what links here to find out where links were inserted, so they can then remove them. ie. From the AfD, use "what links here". If the redirect is deleted before its existence is noted, how do you find the links that pointed at the redirect? Carcharoth 20:43, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Question about UsurpationHi WJBscribe, I'm currently awaiting consideration for a usurpation name change, but I'd just like to ask a quick question just to find out if i'm wasting my time. The user in question is Spartan, a sockpuppet of Mjgm84, a user that has been indefinitely blocked or banned. Apparently, either Spartan never made any [ edits] or they have all been switched to Mjgm84. Now, my question is, now that Spartan has no contributions, either way, will they allow me to usurp? If you can get back to me as soon as possible I'd really appreciate it. Thanks, Kevin 00:33, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
About the socks attacking User talk:Misza13Is there anyone around who can do a quick checkuser on them? I'm willing to be that they're all from the 91.108 range, that is the badger vandal/ User:The JPS hater vandal. Is there any way we can block all these sleepers from that range? Gscshoyru 00:13, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Cleaning some old businessHi WJBscribe, I have left several messages to a few editors regarding some old business [14] [15] [16] (mainly apologizing for past actions/situations.) Because that is still editing, I strongly feel it would be inappropriete for my talk and user page to still be protected. Would you mind unprotecting those two pages? It's not that I am coming back, but there were I few things that I wanted to amend to.-- U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. 01:28, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
I've unprotected them - I doubt any harm's been done at al. WjB scribe 10:12, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
{{ LGBT sidebar}}Hi Scibe! There's discussion going on about your recent edit to this template. Well, not about YOUR edit, but about the issue of intersexuality. See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_LGBT_studies#Template:LGBT sidebar. I reverted your edit pending a consensus of the discussion. Thanks. -- ALLSTAR ECHO 16:47, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
A little helpHey Scribe - do you think you could help me with this request: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Changing_username#DavidShankBone_.E2.86.92_David_Shankbone --David Shankbone 03:35, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank youOMG lmao!!! I'm dying laughing at your comment on jeff's talk page... re: you were just asking for reliable sources that said so. That is the funniest thing that I have seen. Thank you for making me laugh. That comment where you made that tiny typo should stay forever in Wikipedia history. At your expense, of course, and for my funny bone. LOL. ~ Jeeny (talk) 07:26, 27 October 2007 (UTC) Semi-protection / other requestHi WJBscribe, I saw you've declined all the semi protections I have requested. I understand your arguments. I've asked for semi-protection on user Stifle's advice, (s)he advised me on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR (see here). When I saw your comment on one of the edit warriors' talk page (Scipo) (You said you have no problem with blocking all of the other warriors IPs) I thought maybe you could help me out. Would you please take a look at the Administrators' noticeboard/3RR page (click)? I've contacted Stifle but (s)he had no time to take a look at my research. I really would appreciate it! Cheers Kameejl ( Talk) 17:47, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Crediting translatorsI am pretty sure (as someone involved in quite a bit of Fr/En translation on Wikipedia) that we do not reference translators in articles. Could you point me to the policy or precedent that we do? WjB scribe 15:36, 27 October 2007 (UTC) The "MLA Handbook", or "A Writer's Reference," Third Edition by Diana Hacker, pg 278. Mindraker 21:07, 27 October 2007 (UTC) I'm perfectly OK with the Polish Biographical Dictionary. I want it there -- it's just I had no way of verifying the material in it -- now, "theoretically", I could download the article and verify the information if I wanted to spend $12. Sorry if I got a little riled up on that one. Mindraker 12:04, 28 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mindraker ( talk • contribs) Page protectionThanks for semi-protecting my user page. -- Jtalledo (talk) 01:38, 28 October 2007 (UTC) Bot flaggingNo problem - I've now flagged them. Feel free to ask any evening when I'm on line. Warofdreams talk 02:51, 28 October 2007 (UTC) WJBscribeHey, You may have noticed me at Wikipedia:Changing username. I just wanted to drop by and say hello, we always used to get along rather well, and hopefully we can put the past behind us, and hopefully be friends, like we used to be. I do hope so :) Cheers, Qst 17:24, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi WJBscribe, do you think it would be a good idea to add this involuntary desysoping to the former administrators list? [17]-- U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. 21:25, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
I guess so. Done. WjB scribe 21:30, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Derren Brown[19] He's not in a cat, nor does his article say anything about his sexuality. Expand, please? -- SatyrTN ( talk | contribs) 22:11, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
AdminshipThanks for the compliment. I will let you know if I ever decide that I'm willing to be put up for adminship. Cheers, Pete.Hurd 22:46, 28 October 2007 (UTC) Successful RfA - Thank you!Thank you for supporting my recent RfA. It was successful, and I was promoted to Administrator today. I appreciate the support! — KieferSkunk ( talk) — 23:10, 28 October 2007 (UTC) This above RfA has been protected(pending on the outcome). But since it's now closed, does it still need protection?-- U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. 00:15, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
My RfAThank you for participating in my RfA. As you are aware, it was closed with "no consensus". Since your vote was one of the reasons why it did not succeed, I would like to personally address your concerns so that I can reapply successfully.
Please let me know if this resolves your concerns. — Remember the dot ( talk) 01:02, 29 October 2007 (UTC) User PageHi WJB, how are you ? I noticed your user page and I am impressed. It looks really awesome. So I was wondering if I can take your template and use it to make my own user page ? I will, of course, give you credit if I am allowed to use it. Thanks and best regards. Watchdogb 02:15, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
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AhemI trust those exacting standards will now be exercised by you on all articles you edit? That anything that a reference does not assert will be deleted wholesale, no questions, no prods, no tags? Benjiboi 14:58, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Signpost updated for October 22nd, 2007.
Sorry for the tardiness in sending the Signpost this week. -- Ral315 You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot 15:05, 29 October 2007 (UTC) A humble requestHello WBJS I remember you had meditated a case relating to Sri Lankan Civil War. I am wondering if you can comment on issues relating to these articles. I know most people are reluctant to comment on these issued because they are afraid that they do not know much about the Conflict. However, I am wondering if you can comment on some Rules and claim if citations are RS or not (only based on wikipedia rules). You see, I am asking for help from various people because I have pleaded to stick to wikipedia rules and stop any type of edit warring. It will be a lot of help if you could. Thanks Watchdogb 18:16, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes, certainly a particular source UTHR has been questioned by another user. I will add below what the other say RS say about the citation. It would be helpful if you can comment about it.
This is something another admin has found:
Last, the two people who are running UTHR right now have won the Martin Ennals Award for Human Rights Defenders for 2007. Watchdogb 18:49, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
No, from what I just read from UTHR what happened was that LTTE decided to evacuate the Police from the eastern district of Sri Lanka Trincomalee. This lead to fighting between the Police and the LTTE and the Police decided to surrender to the LTTE. The police were taken to the Jungle and massacred by an LTTE Cadre (name Cashier). UTHR claims that the LTTE leader in that area did not give orders for the massacre but it happened nevertheless. In the later days the LTTE were forced out of the town of Kalmunai by the Sri Lankan Army. When the Sri Lankan Army took control of the town they massacred the civilians there. A local member of Parliment said that over 160 civilians were massacred by the Army but UTHR, which did more research and took information of the missing, claimed that at least 260 people were killed and in all over 1000 civilians (not police) were killed or have been missing. Watchdogb 19:55, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi, an editor commented about this protection at ANI. Since apparently there is some dirt hidden somewhere, could you take a look and decide whether or not the template can now be unprotected? Thanks! -- lucasbfr talk 11:16, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Benjiboi continues with his anti-Catholic agenda in the Sister Roma articleBenjiboi has seen fit to include a picture in the Sister Roma article which depicts an event mocking the Passion of Jesus Christ. The article is not about that event, it is about the drag fag Michael Williams. Whether or not Williams co-hosted that event is irrelevant. Articles about persons -- term used loosely in the case of Williams -- ought to have pictures of that person, not events s/he has hosted. The only reason Benjiboi had for including the picture is to give presence and greater notoriety to an anti-Catholic event. In this way he fulfills his anti-Catholic agenda. 72.68.30.122 15:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
OK, WjBscribe, here ya go. Within this post, Williams = Roma. Starting from the top: Michael Williams may have been born December 22nd, but nobody was born on that day with the name cited in the infobox; "Sister ROMA! There's No Place Like Rome or simply Sister Roma" is not found in the next reference cited, nor is there anything which says "Sister Roma" is a contracted form of the more lengthly name -- so why cite that source?; "best known" and "most visible" is POV; Williams may be the first "Sister" of SPI to be "elevated and veiled," but not the first Sister anywhere to have done so -- I would think the first Sister to do so did so many hundreds of years ago, and in a place very different than SF; the STOP the Violence Campaign was intro'd to combat hate crimes throughout the city, but the reference cited does not say "to combat hate crimes...on college campuses"; the next reference cited does not say Williams has done coverage of the GayVN awards; reference (8) does not say Williams judged a Drag King contest; reference (10) does not say Williams was emcee at "the world's largest BDSM/leather event" -- only "the world's biggest leather fair"; reference (12) does not say the holiday dinners were served at Thanksgiving and Christmas; and there isn't anything at reference (16), as it is linked, that says Williams writes for them. Does this prove my point, that the article is not properly sourced? Why cite a source if the material is not found in the source? -- simply to give the impression of greater notoriety to the subject, Williams. This is the work of Benjiboi. Hence the deletions, because in the absence of proper sourcing, the material is OR. 72.68.30.122 21:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Veropedia article deletionHi, you deleted the Veropedia article, I would like to propose it for AfD, and let the community decide on this important subject. please replay. QuantumShadow 19:01, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Username change requestHey, thanks for formatting this username change request, I was going to do it, but then I thought that they should do it, if we were going to take the time to rename them, then they should file the request properly, maybe I'm just evil, though :) Qst 21:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Off thin ice?So am I off thin ice now? Is is sufficient that I participate on recent changes patrol by reverting vandalism on articles, or is that not enought to satisfy the concerns raised? Veiw my most recent contribs. I just want to know if I'm going on the proper track now, so that I won't receive a huge complaint about this issue in the future, about not contributing to the encyclopedia.-- U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. 22:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
My (KWSN's) RFAThank you for supporting my recent (and successful!) RfA. It passed at at 55/17/6. Kwsn (Ni!) 01:09, 31 October 2007 (UTC) Hi WJBscribe, Please change my username to SouthIndian1964 if the newname Globalwarming2007 is causing problems. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bendakallinaooru ( talk • contribs) 07:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC) Problems with 0845 number... again!Hey, 0845 and 0870 number became unprotected today following your previous protection. I've made a radical overhaul of 0845 number, and it has been commented on that it looks a lot better now. Unfortunately, anonymous users keep reverting the page again! I just wanted your advice on how to proceed with this. I don't really want to have it fully protected again, but I guess that might be the only way. ~~ [Jam] [talk] 00:06, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
CIMI-FM translationHi. I notice you are a proofreader for French-to-English translations, and I was wondering if you could check over my work in translating fr:CIMI-FM to CIMI-FM. After looking at Wikipedia:Translation, I'm not really clear on the best way to request proofreading on a page that wasn't submitted to the translation project to begin with, so if you don't have time, feel free to pass this on to anyone else or to tag it appopriately. DHowell 06:11, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I should have said...Re: Saints Sergius and Bacchus: Actually, she did comment on the talk page this last time. Sorry for not mentioning it. Aleta 21:38, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
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