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Thank you much for taking time to review and resolve the issue. :) Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:46, 24 April 2013 (UTC) |
After all that work on Raymond Raikes, you deserve a good cup of tea! Keep up the excellent work! TKK bark ! 13:03, 5 May 2013 (UTC) |
Please accept this article. http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Tambov_State_University&oldid=555222380 Александр Граф ( talk) 12:42, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
As you are probably aware, Gerda has now unilaterally started changing navboxes for Monteverdi and Verdi operas, without consulting on the relevant talk pages. I don't think this was what you had in mind, but maybe it was? Is it in your opinon OK to revert these with a request for discussion on each talk page? Can we advise Gerda to take this no further at present with out requesting disucssions? I don't want to launch a huge mess on ANI, etc.-- Smerus ( talk) 09:13, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi both. I've left a comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Opera#Template:Infobox opera, momentarily breaking my resolution not to get involved ever again with that idiotic (both pro and con) subject. Voceditenore ( talk) 12:41, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
(ec) Gerda is also putting duplicate navboxes on all the Massenet operas. If this isn't a WP:POINT attack then I don't know what is. To VDT, nobody else thinks the infobox issue is idiotic. There is a general recognition on both sides that it will affect the future direction of the encyclopedia. Putting your head in the sand is not constructive. -- Klein zach 12:51, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Nice tone, should I uncorrect the 150+ other mispelt articles while I'm at it? DynamoDegsy ( talk) 12:10, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/RfC Reviewer permission. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 08:20, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Hell Voceditenore, and thank you for your photo and corrections to the Coletti page. If you have any suggestion how this page may be improved I would be very happy indeed. Best regards! Nicoderno1 ( talk) 13:58, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
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Calve wrote in her autobiography:
IT has been my good fortune and my joy to know a man who truly "walked with God," a noble being, a saint, a philosopher, and a true friend. His influence upon my spiritual life was profound. He opened up new horizons before me, enlarging and vivifying my religious ideas and ideals, teaching me a broader understanding of truth. My soul will bear him an eternal gratitude.
Someone tagged this reference as "self-published source", but they did not publish it. At the top of the page it was written "From 'My Life' by Emma Calve. Translated by Rosamond Gilder". That site has lots of more historic documents. Brilliant site, I must say.
BTW, Calve is in my task list. I'll try to expand the article. Right now, I am collecting sources (I have found 2 good books). I am a bit busy with User:Titodutta/Swami Vivekananda's 150th birth anniversary celebration initiatives, but, I'll surely try to expand Calve article. Let me know if you can help. Regards. -- Tito☸ Dutta 15:22, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
a) That site is too good to avoid, click on the years at the right side sidebar
here, all nineteenth century newspaper reports. Amazing. The site is full of such valuable documents. But, yes, I mainly use the site for personal studies. b) yes, we should not write more than 1 section on Vivekananda. And we can add one-two lines in her "middle life" too. I am explaining below.
The role of Vivekananda in Calve's middle life is very important.
From Vivekananda, Swami (1996). My India : the India eternal (1st ed. ed.). Calcutta: Ramakrishna Mission Institute of Culture. pp. 176–177.
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Madame Emma Calve was a celebrated opera singer in France. She enjoyed great popularity in the United States. But, despite her professional success, her personal life was miserable, she was obstinate and quick tampered and had strong likes and dislikes. Naturally she had no peace of mind. To add to her suffering, in March 1894 she lost her only daughter in an accident in Chicago. After this tragedy she nearly lost her mental balance. At this moment, a friend of hers wanted to take her to Swami Vivekananda, but Madame Calve refused, for she thought there was only way left for her to get permanent peace and that was to commit suicide. She tried four times to commit suicide but failed.. At last she decided to go to Swami Vivekananda..."
You can Google to learn about their meeting, but after the meeting Calve's reaction was— "He seemed to have emptied my brain of all its feverish complexities and placed there instead his clear and calming thoughts."
In October 1900, Vivekananda went for a travel. He was a Hindu monk and did not have much money with him (according to Hindu religious tradition, a Sannyasi should not keep money with him). Then few of his admirers and devotees accompanied Vivekananda in that tour. Now, guess who was the main companion and sponsor of this tour? Yes, it was Emma Calve.
Vivekananda, Calve and others started their journey on 24 October 1900 and ended on 25 November 1900. In this one month, they travelled to six countries Germany, Austria, Serbia, Bulgaria, Greece and Egypt.
I have started gathering sources on Calve. I have got so much information on her performance in "Carmen" and America tour that I can write two long articles on . But, the problematic part is I am not getting any source which discusses her first life. Hopefully there will be lots of Good sources in French. I need a native French speaker. Vivekananda wrote few letters to Calve. I have found those letters, Calve also wrote many letters to Vivekananda, I have not found any. I am searching those letters. -- Tito☸ Dutta 17:58, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
and clearly some of the stuff they have written about her is at the very least dubious and anecdotal and at the worst false— is directly insulting an international institution and the person you are talking about is one of the most influential person of a country and his birthday is celebrated as India's National youth Day. Both Advaita Ashrama and the book's writer Swami Nikhilananda are notable and reliable. what you are talking about, is a topic of scholarly studies. If you really can show it, write a paper "Ramakrishna Mission is distorting Emma Calvé"'s biography". Your name will be in newspapers. You can contact them in these email addresses and ask for sources/clarification too—
I started working at the Calve article, but got struck, after finding one more source. There are two differences a) the previous source said it was March 1894, this one is saying "in all probability it was in 1899", b) the last source said, it in one line "her daughter died in an accident, and this source has 2 page details on the event. I am typing what is written in Swami Vivekananda: New Perspectives An Anthology on Swami Vivekananda.
Ramakrishna Mission Institute of Culture. 2013. pp. 396–397.
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In all probability it was in 1899 when Calve was visiting Chicago with the Metropolitan Opera Company that a strange incident brought her to Vivekananda. In her tumultuous life along with fame, wealth, ceaseless work and travel with usual emotional imbalances of an artiste, she had only her daughter, accompanying during her particular tour, who gave her comfort. It has been made known by Mme Paul Verider, a close acquaintance of Emma Calve, that one evening at the opera when she was singing Carmen her voice was never so beautiful, and although she felt nervous going to the theatre, she had after the first act a tremendous success. During the first intermission she suddenly felt terribly depressed and thought she would not continue the second act, but with a great effort she succeeded in getting ready, and although she had the impression she would not be able to sing, she sang magnificently. Right after the second act, coming back to her dressing room she almost collapsed and asked the manager to announce she was ill. She was more depressed than before and had difficulty in breathing. The manager and people around her insisted so, that finally she continued and was almost carried to the stage for the last act. She told me that at that minute she made the greatest effort of her life to finish the performance. She also said that it was the day she sang her best and the public gave her a tremendous ovation. She ran to the dressing room without waiting for the applause, and when she saw several people and the manager waiting for her with sad faces, she knew something tragic had happened. The tragedy was that her daughter, who had been in a house of a friend that evening, was dead, having been burned to death during the performance of Carmen. Calve Collapsed.
As the days went on, Calve become more and more firm in her wish to commit suicide..... Mme Verdier's Notes tells us that— "She told me that her only thought was to commit suicide by throwing herself in the lake....
The same book also mentions, that her daughter's accident was mentioned in details in another notable research work. It quotes Emma Calve's autobiography (quotes are already covered in Reminiscences, link above). It also gives an information, in 1911, she came to Belur Math, India. She wrote in her autobiography (and it is also in the same Reminiscences, I did not notice so far)—
Year later, when I was travelling in India, I wished to visit the convent where the Swami had spent....
I don't know if the Paul Verdier mentioned above is this Paul Verdier. But, if really something happened (i.e. daughter's death, four times attempt to suicide etc), that is a significant event. -- Tito☸ Dutta 19:13, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
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In the process of expanding the article L'arpa festante, I would like to know if there ever will be one on the cantata, - then the derived orchestra should get a qualifier. What do you think? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 22:19, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Greetings: I did some work on Inno delle nazioni the other day and cleaned up a lot of things. However, the original editor used "Marvin" as surname, and I did a check on the title of the Hymns etc. volume on the U of C site (which shows: Inni, ed. Roberta Montemorra Marvin; rental and published scores; vocal score in production) as well as abebooks.com where her name also appears (albeit for a different title) as Roberta Montemorra Marvin.
My refs use:
All the best, Viva-Verdi ( talk) 21:54, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Hello, Voceditenore, many thanks. You were very kind move my draft into article space after doing some basic copy editing and cleanup. I'm only wondering: 1. For what reason spelling from Shuisky Michael was changed into Mikhail Shuisky? May I change it back? 2. For what reason names of all composers was disappeared from Opera roles? Could I write down them back? 3. Could be files into Opera roles smaller? If yes, how can I do it? Thank you so much for your help. 121.98.217.63 ( talk) 22:12, 25 September 2013 (UTC) 121.98.217.63 ( talk) 22:09, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
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Hello, I'd like to show you this press clipping from the newspaper "New Viennese scene".
This article was written by Deutfch 23 September 1912:
“Neue Wiener Buehne” Wohltaetigkeitsvorstellung bekannten Habeck Schueler. "Herr Michael Schuisky vom Linzer Stadttheater bot als Rigoletto ganz Hervorragendes ebenso in Aida, wo er den Amonasro gab, waerend Frau Fuuina Schuisky als Aida gesanglich und als Darstellerin fehr gutes Koennen zeigte."
Professional interpreter translated this citations into modern English:
The newspaper "New Viennese scene", "Sir Michael Shuisky of the Municipal Theatre in Linz as Rigoletto, and in the role of Amonasro in" Aida "as well, and his wife Yanina Shuysky performing as Aida, showed outstanding vocal performance." 23 September 1912.'"
I will be so happy to find out any trace of Habeck Schueler. This only way to discover what was Mrs Shuisky's maden surename. She was a student from 1905 to 1908. She married to Mr Shuisky in 1906 and changed her name.
Would you please tell me how can I discover list of Habeck's students from 1905 to 1908 ?
Many thanks
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Шуйская (
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Thanks for the thanks. I've just been idly toying around with the article. I don't think I've got the energy to do a thorough overall. Any particular things you want me to look at? (No promises that I'll succeed, mind you).-- Folantin ( talk) 10:16, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
I've restored the history; it was created by an IP back in 2005. Good luck if you can find them now! Giant Snowman 17:43, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for your comments. I've included one of the two references you suggested and am looking for ways to improve the article further. I hope the next review takes place soon. Meanwhile, I saw the exchange about Sarva Shiksha Abhiyan, looked up the article, and have (rashly!) taken on the job of rescuing it. Thanks and regards, Amuk ( talk) 13:14, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
I'm baffled by your edit summary at
Template:Rossini operas: "unexpand interferes too much with image layout". The purpose of the parameter |expanded=
is to allow those articles which invoke this template to specify which, if any, of the template's sections are to be shown expanded, in Rossini's case either "Operas" or "Pastiches" or, by default, none. Removing that parameter should have no effect for those articles that don't specify |expanded=
. If an article uses that parameter and it interferes with its layout, the use of that parameter in that article can be changed. I know that, if I'm right, the whole thing is probably of no importance as probably no Rossini article uses that parameter for this template. I'm just surprised by your edit summary because I did not expect the behaviour as you describe it. All the best, --
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|expanded=Pastiches
and that's probably what you saw. The proper way to deal with that is to change that in the article Ivanhoé. --
Michael Bednarek (
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Hi Voce. Long time no speak ;) I'm just letting you know that I have semi'd this article. If you think it should be full protected, let me know. Regards, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 06:49, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi Voce. You created an article the title of which I do not manage to modify. Indeed, a "n" in "Passionnément" is missing. How can it be done? Best, Mikal9 14:20, 7 October 2013 (CEST)
The festive harp played magnificently, - see image on top of my talk. Next capitalisation question: Quattro Pezzi Sacri or Quattro pezzi sacri, as the rest of the world seems to say, for example it and de? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 10:08, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
On 10 October 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Quattro pezzi sacri, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Giuseppe Verdi (pictured) combined in Quattro pezzi sacri four sacred vocal compositions, including an Ave Maria on an enigmatic scale for solo voices and a Te Deum? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Quattro pezzi sacri. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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Please - I didn't, and I don't, 'give up' on Wikipedia. Nor was I half so concerned over infoboxes as I was at the behaviour of some other editors. I withdrew, and may just be biding my time for a return. Keep well. -- Smerus ( talk) 13:38, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
I think in a way the "camel" image is not quite suitable, because a camel's back can break only once (I assume), with no way of recovery. Getting to the point of giving up, however, can be different, perhaps reverted. - When I used the phrase "give up" I borrowed from Wehwalt whose line (the caption for an image he took in memory) I quote on top of my talk today, in memory. I respect any reason to give up. The threshold of what is bearable may vary, between people and even for the same person. (Women seem to be more stable and able to take more.) I know that I was close to giving up four times so far. Once a red link helped (I changed it it since.). - My first barnstar was for resilience ;) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 09:26, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
Ermutigung appeared, and I still love opera ;) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 23:10, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Well his talkpage says he is! Should I be going for impersonation as well? :-}-- Smerus ( talk) 07:43, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
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for the holidays and 2014 from a warmer place than where you probably are ;) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 11:38, 21 December 2013 (UTC) |
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Many thanks for your good wishes, which are warmly reciprocated! Here's a snap I took a few days ago of a pianist playing a merry ditty in Kiev - it's so peaceful back here in London!-- Smerus ( talk) 12:32, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
Christmas greetings for 2013 and best wishes for 2014. Peace on earth and goodwill to all May you take pleasure in all you do and find success and happiness | |
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...from me too. (Sorry, I haven't had time to come up with a swanky greetings card). Seasons greetings. -- Folantin ( talk) 13:22, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, but don't forget it still has to be nominated at T:TDYK with an appropriate hook. Gatoclass ( talk) 11:39, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
Hello, obviously I'm not able to create an article from the technicial side in Wikipedia. First, I want to confirm that's me who created the article on Schliessmann for <artistsinternational>; second, because now I don't have any further idea, perhaps, you asw an objective person could do the article about <Schliessmann> for Wikipedia? Perhaps we both could work on it? Otherwise, if not, I'm sure, the artist himself can live without being represented on Wikipedia ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elvirtuoso ( talk • contribs) 21:31, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Dear Voceditenore,
I just did a hard work with the pianistic style of Burkard Schliessmann. These are my own words, which nowhere are copied; I also included a citation of a review of FANFARE, also with all details of references, edition, pages and so on (I also talked to the editor, that I can do it). But: You deleted all. There is no reason not to describe the style of an artist. Also on the artist's homepage these words can not be found. So, I would be very glad if you could tell me how I could include this essential part. Thank you so much! Hearing soonest, sincerestly, Joanna — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joanna at EVP ( talk • contribs) 20:37, 18 December 2013 (UTC) SORRY, I just forgot to log out without signature. Would be great if we could collaborate! THANKS!-- Joanna at EVP ( talk) 20:50, 18 December 2013 (UTC)-- Joanna at EVP ( talk) 20:54, 18 December 2013 (UTC)-- Joanna at EVP ( talk) 20:55, 18 December 2013 (UTC)-- Joanna at EVP ( talk) 20:56, 18 December 2013 (UTC)-- Joanna at EVP ( talk) 21:32, 18 December 2013 (UTC) Dear Voceditenore, it would really be nice if you could answer and could go in help: My files NEVERWHERE can be found. I just tried to get the article an adequate depth, so it is not just about to delete this files ... There is no copyright-violation, no copying of something else. All has been citated in objectively manner. And NOT from the site of the artist himself. My sincerest greetings and thanks, looking forward your help, Joanna -- Joanna at EVP ( talk) 22:56, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
Dear Voceditenore, I thank for your comment(s). As a music-lover you should know, that there always are different meanings on the ame subject. You mention - for example - the Goldberg-Variations. OK. Then please also check here for the same subject: MusicWeb. Sorry: With the <citations> I didn't know the guidelines. Of course I could make other references. There are a lot. And again: I don't have a conflict of interest, because I don't know the artist personally. I would suggest, to leave the site as it is, nobody needs to take the effort for writing about the artist's style. Can we agree on it? All the best, sincerestly, Joanna-- Joanna at EVP ( talk) 13:23, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
Dear Voceditenore, please allow some thoughts: I regret so much that from the first beginning we both couldn't find a common understanding - despite your big knowledge about music. Repeatedly I had the impression that you are against me and the artist of the article. You have assumed that I'm not objective and have a conflict of interest. This really is not true. In fact, I left the company (for being retired) before the artist had been a client, but not for PR. With your knowledge you should know that envy and jealousy are virtues of our life - and of this business. There are countless reviews and quotes worldwide, which are documenting the outstanding artistry of the mentioned artist - as pianist and organist. And you take out 2 (in words: two!) reviews which - demonstrably - are directed against him for personal reasons - which (the reasons) I do know very well and have their reasons in resentments ... So, in consequence I deleted the complete 'talk' on my page (please understand this). I really did hope that we both could collaborate on the mission I wanted and described. For example, because you cite American Record Guide: The Editor, Don Vroon, mentioned in the march/april-edition 2013 the artist to the 15 most favored pianists worldwide (only living and active pianists). So, frankly, I only can hope that you don't harm this artist - this also would be against the rules of Wiki, which especially you represent so much! This is my wish for Christmas 2013. The article in the running version (on which you also worked on) is excellent and can run for the next time - without change/addition. Wishing you all the best, merry christmas and and a happy New Year, sincerestly, Joanna (an answer is not necessary...)-- Joanna at EVP ( talk) 22:45, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you much for taking time to review and resolve the issue. :) Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:46, 24 April 2013 (UTC) |
After all that work on Raymond Raikes, you deserve a good cup of tea! Keep up the excellent work! TKK bark ! 13:03, 5 May 2013 (UTC) |
Please accept this article. http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Tambov_State_University&oldid=555222380 Александр Граф ( talk) 12:42, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
As you are probably aware, Gerda has now unilaterally started changing navboxes for Monteverdi and Verdi operas, without consulting on the relevant talk pages. I don't think this was what you had in mind, but maybe it was? Is it in your opinon OK to revert these with a request for discussion on each talk page? Can we advise Gerda to take this no further at present with out requesting disucssions? I don't want to launch a huge mess on ANI, etc.-- Smerus ( talk) 09:13, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi both. I've left a comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Opera#Template:Infobox opera, momentarily breaking my resolution not to get involved ever again with that idiotic (both pro and con) subject. Voceditenore ( talk) 12:41, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
(ec) Gerda is also putting duplicate navboxes on all the Massenet operas. If this isn't a WP:POINT attack then I don't know what is. To VDT, nobody else thinks the infobox issue is idiotic. There is a general recognition on both sides that it will affect the future direction of the encyclopedia. Putting your head in the sand is not constructive. -- Klein zach 12:51, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Nice tone, should I uncorrect the 150+ other mispelt articles while I'm at it? DynamoDegsy ( talk) 12:10, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/RfC Reviewer permission. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 08:20, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Hell Voceditenore, and thank you for your photo and corrections to the Coletti page. If you have any suggestion how this page may be improved I would be very happy indeed. Best regards! Nicoderno1 ( talk) 13:58, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
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Calve wrote in her autobiography:
IT has been my good fortune and my joy to know a man who truly "walked with God," a noble being, a saint, a philosopher, and a true friend. His influence upon my spiritual life was profound. He opened up new horizons before me, enlarging and vivifying my religious ideas and ideals, teaching me a broader understanding of truth. My soul will bear him an eternal gratitude.
Someone tagged this reference as "self-published source", but they did not publish it. At the top of the page it was written "From 'My Life' by Emma Calve. Translated by Rosamond Gilder". That site has lots of more historic documents. Brilliant site, I must say.
BTW, Calve is in my task list. I'll try to expand the article. Right now, I am collecting sources (I have found 2 good books). I am a bit busy with User:Titodutta/Swami Vivekananda's 150th birth anniversary celebration initiatives, but, I'll surely try to expand Calve article. Let me know if you can help. Regards. -- Tito☸ Dutta 15:22, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
a) That site is too good to avoid, click on the years at the right side sidebar
here, all nineteenth century newspaper reports. Amazing. The site is full of such valuable documents. But, yes, I mainly use the site for personal studies. b) yes, we should not write more than 1 section on Vivekananda. And we can add one-two lines in her "middle life" too. I am explaining below.
The role of Vivekananda in Calve's middle life is very important.
From Vivekananda, Swami (1996). My India : the India eternal (1st ed. ed.). Calcutta: Ramakrishna Mission Institute of Culture. pp. 176–177.
ISBN
81-85843-51-1. {{
cite book}}
: |edition=
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Madame Emma Calve was a celebrated opera singer in France. She enjoyed great popularity in the United States. But, despite her professional success, her personal life was miserable, she was obstinate and quick tampered and had strong likes and dislikes. Naturally she had no peace of mind. To add to her suffering, in March 1894 she lost her only daughter in an accident in Chicago. After this tragedy she nearly lost her mental balance. At this moment, a friend of hers wanted to take her to Swami Vivekananda, but Madame Calve refused, for she thought there was only way left for her to get permanent peace and that was to commit suicide. She tried four times to commit suicide but failed.. At last she decided to go to Swami Vivekananda..."
You can Google to learn about their meeting, but after the meeting Calve's reaction was— "He seemed to have emptied my brain of all its feverish complexities and placed there instead his clear and calming thoughts."
In October 1900, Vivekananda went for a travel. He was a Hindu monk and did not have much money with him (according to Hindu religious tradition, a Sannyasi should not keep money with him). Then few of his admirers and devotees accompanied Vivekananda in that tour. Now, guess who was the main companion and sponsor of this tour? Yes, it was Emma Calve.
Vivekananda, Calve and others started their journey on 24 October 1900 and ended on 25 November 1900. In this one month, they travelled to six countries Germany, Austria, Serbia, Bulgaria, Greece and Egypt.
I have started gathering sources on Calve. I have got so much information on her performance in "Carmen" and America tour that I can write two long articles on . But, the problematic part is I am not getting any source which discusses her first life. Hopefully there will be lots of Good sources in French. I need a native French speaker. Vivekananda wrote few letters to Calve. I have found those letters, Calve also wrote many letters to Vivekananda, I have not found any. I am searching those letters. -- Tito☸ Dutta 17:58, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
and clearly some of the stuff they have written about her is at the very least dubious and anecdotal and at the worst false— is directly insulting an international institution and the person you are talking about is one of the most influential person of a country and his birthday is celebrated as India's National youth Day. Both Advaita Ashrama and the book's writer Swami Nikhilananda are notable and reliable. what you are talking about, is a topic of scholarly studies. If you really can show it, write a paper "Ramakrishna Mission is distorting Emma Calvé"'s biography". Your name will be in newspapers. You can contact them in these email addresses and ask for sources/clarification too—
I started working at the Calve article, but got struck, after finding one more source. There are two differences a) the previous source said it was March 1894, this one is saying "in all probability it was in 1899", b) the last source said, it in one line "her daughter died in an accident, and this source has 2 page details on the event. I am typing what is written in Swami Vivekananda: New Perspectives An Anthology on Swami Vivekananda.
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In all probability it was in 1899 when Calve was visiting Chicago with the Metropolitan Opera Company that a strange incident brought her to Vivekananda. In her tumultuous life along with fame, wealth, ceaseless work and travel with usual emotional imbalances of an artiste, she had only her daughter, accompanying during her particular tour, who gave her comfort. It has been made known by Mme Paul Verider, a close acquaintance of Emma Calve, that one evening at the opera when she was singing Carmen her voice was never so beautiful, and although she felt nervous going to the theatre, she had after the first act a tremendous success. During the first intermission she suddenly felt terribly depressed and thought she would not continue the second act, but with a great effort she succeeded in getting ready, and although she had the impression she would not be able to sing, she sang magnificently. Right after the second act, coming back to her dressing room she almost collapsed and asked the manager to announce she was ill. She was more depressed than before and had difficulty in breathing. The manager and people around her insisted so, that finally she continued and was almost carried to the stage for the last act. She told me that at that minute she made the greatest effort of her life to finish the performance. She also said that it was the day she sang her best and the public gave her a tremendous ovation. She ran to the dressing room without waiting for the applause, and when she saw several people and the manager waiting for her with sad faces, she knew something tragic had happened. The tragedy was that her daughter, who had been in a house of a friend that evening, was dead, having been burned to death during the performance of Carmen. Calve Collapsed.
As the days went on, Calve become more and more firm in her wish to commit suicide..... Mme Verdier's Notes tells us that— "She told me that her only thought was to commit suicide by throwing herself in the lake....
The same book also mentions, that her daughter's accident was mentioned in details in another notable research work. It quotes Emma Calve's autobiography (quotes are already covered in Reminiscences, link above). It also gives an information, in 1911, she came to Belur Math, India. She wrote in her autobiography (and it is also in the same Reminiscences, I did not notice so far)—
Year later, when I was travelling in India, I wished to visit the convent where the Swami had spent....
I don't know if the Paul Verdier mentioned above is this Paul Verdier. But, if really something happened (i.e. daughter's death, four times attempt to suicide etc), that is a significant event. -- Tito☸ Dutta 19:13, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
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In the process of expanding the article L'arpa festante, I would like to know if there ever will be one on the cantata, - then the derived orchestra should get a qualifier. What do you think? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 22:19, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Greetings: I did some work on Inno delle nazioni the other day and cleaned up a lot of things. However, the original editor used "Marvin" as surname, and I did a check on the title of the Hymns etc. volume on the U of C site (which shows: Inni, ed. Roberta Montemorra Marvin; rental and published scores; vocal score in production) as well as abebooks.com where her name also appears (albeit for a different title) as Roberta Montemorra Marvin.
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All the best, Viva-Verdi ( talk) 21:54, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Hello, Voceditenore, many thanks. You were very kind move my draft into article space after doing some basic copy editing and cleanup. I'm only wondering: 1. For what reason spelling from Shuisky Michael was changed into Mikhail Shuisky? May I change it back? 2. For what reason names of all composers was disappeared from Opera roles? Could I write down them back? 3. Could be files into Opera roles smaller? If yes, how can I do it? Thank you so much for your help. 121.98.217.63 ( talk) 22:12, 25 September 2013 (UTC) 121.98.217.63 ( talk) 22:09, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
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Hello, I'd like to show you this press clipping from the newspaper "New Viennese scene".
This article was written by Deutfch 23 September 1912:
“Neue Wiener Buehne” Wohltaetigkeitsvorstellung bekannten Habeck Schueler. "Herr Michael Schuisky vom Linzer Stadttheater bot als Rigoletto ganz Hervorragendes ebenso in Aida, wo er den Amonasro gab, waerend Frau Fuuina Schuisky als Aida gesanglich und als Darstellerin fehr gutes Koennen zeigte."
Professional interpreter translated this citations into modern English:
The newspaper "New Viennese scene", "Sir Michael Shuisky of the Municipal Theatre in Linz as Rigoletto, and in the role of Amonasro in" Aida "as well, and his wife Yanina Shuysky performing as Aida, showed outstanding vocal performance." 23 September 1912.'"
I will be so happy to find out any trace of Habeck Schueler. This only way to discover what was Mrs Shuisky's maden surename. She was a student from 1905 to 1908. She married to Mr Shuisky in 1906 and changed her name.
Would you please tell me how can I discover list of Habeck's students from 1905 to 1908 ?
Many thanks
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Thanks for the thanks. I've just been idly toying around with the article. I don't think I've got the energy to do a thorough overall. Any particular things you want me to look at? (No promises that I'll succeed, mind you).-- Folantin ( talk) 10:16, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
I've restored the history; it was created by an IP back in 2005. Good luck if you can find them now! Giant Snowman 17:43, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for your comments. I've included one of the two references you suggested and am looking for ways to improve the article further. I hope the next review takes place soon. Meanwhile, I saw the exchange about Sarva Shiksha Abhiyan, looked up the article, and have (rashly!) taken on the job of rescuing it. Thanks and regards, Amuk ( talk) 13:14, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
I'm baffled by your edit summary at
Template:Rossini operas: "unexpand interferes too much with image layout". The purpose of the parameter |expanded=
is to allow those articles which invoke this template to specify which, if any, of the template's sections are to be shown expanded, in Rossini's case either "Operas" or "Pastiches" or, by default, none. Removing that parameter should have no effect for those articles that don't specify |expanded=
. If an article uses that parameter and it interferes with its layout, the use of that parameter in that article can be changed. I know that, if I'm right, the whole thing is probably of no importance as probably no Rossini article uses that parameter for this template. I'm just surprised by your edit summary because I did not expect the behaviour as you describe it. All the best, --
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|expanded=Pastiches
and that's probably what you saw. The proper way to deal with that is to change that in the article Ivanhoé. --
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Hi Voce. Long time no speak ;) I'm just letting you know that I have semi'd this article. If you think it should be full protected, let me know. Regards, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 06:49, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi Voce. You created an article the title of which I do not manage to modify. Indeed, a "n" in "Passionnément" is missing. How can it be done? Best, Mikal9 14:20, 7 October 2013 (CEST)
The festive harp played magnificently, - see image on top of my talk. Next capitalisation question: Quattro Pezzi Sacri or Quattro pezzi sacri, as the rest of the world seems to say, for example it and de? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 10:08, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
On 10 October 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Quattro pezzi sacri, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Giuseppe Verdi (pictured) combined in Quattro pezzi sacri four sacred vocal compositions, including an Ave Maria on an enigmatic scale for solo voices and a Te Deum? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Quattro pezzi sacri. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project ( nominate) 08:38, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Please - I didn't, and I don't, 'give up' on Wikipedia. Nor was I half so concerned over infoboxes as I was at the behaviour of some other editors. I withdrew, and may just be biding my time for a return. Keep well. -- Smerus ( talk) 13:38, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
I think in a way the "camel" image is not quite suitable, because a camel's back can break only once (I assume), with no way of recovery. Getting to the point of giving up, however, can be different, perhaps reverted. - When I used the phrase "give up" I borrowed from Wehwalt whose line (the caption for an image he took in memory) I quote on top of my talk today, in memory. I respect any reason to give up. The threshold of what is bearable may vary, between people and even for the same person. (Women seem to be more stable and able to take more.) I know that I was close to giving up four times so far. Once a red link helped (I changed it it since.). - My first barnstar was for resilience ;) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 09:26, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
Ermutigung appeared, and I still love opera ;) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 23:10, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Well his talkpage says he is! Should I be going for impersonation as well? :-}-- Smerus ( talk) 07:43, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
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for the holidays and 2014 from a warmer place than where you probably are ;) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 11:38, 21 December 2013 (UTC) |
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...from me too. (Sorry, I haven't had time to come up with a swanky greetings card). Seasons greetings. -- Folantin ( talk) 13:22, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, but don't forget it still has to be nominated at T:TDYK with an appropriate hook. Gatoclass ( talk) 11:39, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
Hello, obviously I'm not able to create an article from the technicial side in Wikipedia. First, I want to confirm that's me who created the article on Schliessmann for <artistsinternational>; second, because now I don't have any further idea, perhaps, you asw an objective person could do the article about <Schliessmann> for Wikipedia? Perhaps we both could work on it? Otherwise, if not, I'm sure, the artist himself can live without being represented on Wikipedia ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elvirtuoso ( talk • contribs) 21:31, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Dear Voceditenore,
I just did a hard work with the pianistic style of Burkard Schliessmann. These are my own words, which nowhere are copied; I also included a citation of a review of FANFARE, also with all details of references, edition, pages and so on (I also talked to the editor, that I can do it). But: You deleted all. There is no reason not to describe the style of an artist. Also on the artist's homepage these words can not be found. So, I would be very glad if you could tell me how I could include this essential part. Thank you so much! Hearing soonest, sincerestly, Joanna — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joanna at EVP ( talk • contribs) 20:37, 18 December 2013 (UTC) SORRY, I just forgot to log out without signature. Would be great if we could collaborate! THANKS!-- Joanna at EVP ( talk) 20:50, 18 December 2013 (UTC)-- Joanna at EVP ( talk) 20:54, 18 December 2013 (UTC)-- Joanna at EVP ( talk) 20:55, 18 December 2013 (UTC)-- Joanna at EVP ( talk) 20:56, 18 December 2013 (UTC)-- Joanna at EVP ( talk) 21:32, 18 December 2013 (UTC) Dear Voceditenore, it would really be nice if you could answer and could go in help: My files NEVERWHERE can be found. I just tried to get the article an adequate depth, so it is not just about to delete this files ... There is no copyright-violation, no copying of something else. All has been citated in objectively manner. And NOT from the site of the artist himself. My sincerest greetings and thanks, looking forward your help, Joanna -- Joanna at EVP ( talk) 22:56, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
Dear Voceditenore, I thank for your comment(s). As a music-lover you should know, that there always are different meanings on the ame subject. You mention - for example - the Goldberg-Variations. OK. Then please also check here for the same subject: MusicWeb. Sorry: With the <citations> I didn't know the guidelines. Of course I could make other references. There are a lot. And again: I don't have a conflict of interest, because I don't know the artist personally. I would suggest, to leave the site as it is, nobody needs to take the effort for writing about the artist's style. Can we agree on it? All the best, sincerestly, Joanna-- Joanna at EVP ( talk) 13:23, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
Dear Voceditenore, please allow some thoughts: I regret so much that from the first beginning we both couldn't find a common understanding - despite your big knowledge about music. Repeatedly I had the impression that you are against me and the artist of the article. You have assumed that I'm not objective and have a conflict of interest. This really is not true. In fact, I left the company (for being retired) before the artist had been a client, but not for PR. With your knowledge you should know that envy and jealousy are virtues of our life - and of this business. There are countless reviews and quotes worldwide, which are documenting the outstanding artistry of the mentioned artist - as pianist and organist. And you take out 2 (in words: two!) reviews which - demonstrably - are directed against him for personal reasons - which (the reasons) I do know very well and have their reasons in resentments ... So, in consequence I deleted the complete 'talk' on my page (please understand this). I really did hope that we both could collaborate on the mission I wanted and described. For example, because you cite American Record Guide: The Editor, Don Vroon, mentioned in the march/april-edition 2013 the artist to the 15 most favored pianists worldwide (only living and active pianists). So, frankly, I only can hope that you don't harm this artist - this also would be against the rules of Wiki, which especially you represent so much! This is my wish for Christmas 2013. The article in the running version (on which you also worked on) is excellent and can run for the next time - without change/addition. Wishing you all the best, merry christmas and and a happy New Year, sincerestly, Joanna (an answer is not necessary...)-- Joanna at EVP ( talk) 22:45, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
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