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Hello, you mentioned asking for a hatnote-mover bot at this discussion a few weeks ago: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Layout § A bot to move incorrectly placed hatnotes?
Were you still pursuing this idea? If not, where were you going to put in the request? — Goszei ( talk) 03:23, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for your help on Madi; I missed that alternate spelling (obviously). And more importantly, I didn't know that you could ping from an edit summary! That's really useful. Leschnei ( talk) 11:48, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
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I have often (or, uhm, occasionally) consulted the unbarnstarred Uanfala for dab-help, I now do so with even greater awe: do you think this [1] make sense? I am especially unsure about the "one of"-thing. – Austronesier ( talk) 21:24, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
"non-answer"might earn you a Modesty Barnstar ;) – Austronesier ( talk) 10:04, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
Thank you Uanfala for adding information about dosut Arqamkhawaja ( talk) 14:20, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
Three accounts all registered the same day with no contributions other than adding links to Anderson. Still think there's no self-promotion here? Guy ( help! - typo?) 08:11, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
Michi44 ( talk) 19:55, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
Hi. I left a response regarding Bab. at that article's talk page. I'll keep watching there for that discussion.
Did not want to mix up the discussion there, so I come here for this tangentially related item. In the article Talmud, it says that
It looks like someone messed with the Shas (disambiguation) page a few days ago, adding something but dropping a "]". I would fix the bracket, but have no idea if anything else they did is correct. Could you take a look at it? Thanks. Jmg38 ( talk) 20:12, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
In the article for Sanskrit, you removed the (correct) sentence that Sanskrit has influenced non-Indo-European Indian languages like Malayalam, Kannada, Telugu etc.
That statement is true. Much of the vocab of Kannada, Malayalam and Telugu come from Sanskrit, even basic vocabulary like terms for sun, moon, day, night etc. This influence is comparable to influence of Latin on English. The phonology also has been modelled on Sanskrit and even native words are pronounced like that.
It is true that Tamil's phonology is not affected by Sanskrit and that it contains lesser Sanskrit loan words. However there is still influence as many Tamil words come from Sanskrit. There were many more words in the past which were replaced by native Tamil words as a result of linguistic purism.
Please restore that sentence because it is true.
03:13, 31 August 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4042:2EAD:A843:0:0:EAC8:5F02 ( talk)
Here's the one for Sylheti [2], Table 3. I'm too lazy to cite and make the adjustments; I was drawn into the maelstrom of the Brahmaputra, that's tiring, I tell you! ;) – Austronesier ( talk) 11:20, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
Kindly check these changes]. I believe you removed the pie-chart in the past? - Fylindfotberserk ( talk) 10:00, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
Hi there, may I know that why did you remove the part which said that Garhwali is officially considered as a dialect of Hindi. I had clearly provided a link of MHRD's document conveying so. Mind you that MHRD abbreviates to Ministry of Human Resource and Development, India. It is the concerned body which deals with classification of languages and dialects in India. Binsarhills ( talk) 16:40, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification. Binsarhills ( talk) 18:58, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
Hi, may I know how can you source some information on a Wikipedia page based on another Wikipedia page. Binsarhills ( talk) 16:12, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
If this was allowed then wouldn't someone edit some wiki page to use it as a source for another page so as to display what he/she wishes too? Binsarhills ( talk) 16:14, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
This is contradictory to the fact that jaunsari is a western pahari language although, jausar bhawar region lies in uttrakhand Binsarhills ( talk) 16:22, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
Same goes for southeast j&k Binsarhills ( talk) 16:23, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
Dogri was previously considered as a dialect of Punjabi however, now it has been adopted into the group of western pahari languages. You may check this one out: https://linguistlist.org/issues/29/29-1717/ Coming to my second point, you said that:"...any mention of "Jammu and Kashmir" will likely prompt readers to think of the unrelated "Pahari" of western Kashmir...". The whole purpose of a Wikipedia article is to inform it's readers everything about the topic without being concerned about the thoughts that may be induced in their minds. As an example, you might know about the Jat community in North India. Haryana has domination of the Jats all over the State, however, far west UP also shares the same culture. But, as you might know that Central and eastern UP has a contrastingly different culture. However, when distribution of the Jat community is described, the state of UP is also mentioned. If we go by your theory, mentioning of UP should prompt the readers to think that jats are like the people of central and eastern UP. Binsarhills ( talk) 18:56, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
Also, i would like to bring it to your notice that we had disagreements regarding calling Western Pahari languages as Himachali languages to which, you asked me to visit those links. I feel that the situation I described above gives me a perfect opportunity to explain what I am trying to say. Now, the word 'Jat' has something to do with ethinicicity, something which is cultural and has been practiced for centuries however the word 'haryanvi' is political as it associates the culture to a state formed a few decades ago. Now, would you call the people of west UP jats or haryanvi. Clearly both communities are same but they are still jats, aren't they? By acknowledging only the people who live in Haryana as jats, you are excluding the jats of neighbouring states although the kat community has a majority in Haryana state only. Similarly, by calling western pahari language as Himachali language, you are making readers think that only the languages of Himachal Pradesh are classified as western pahari language, which is far from reality. Binsarhills ( talk) 19:10, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
That's great. Cheers. Binsarhills ( talk) 22:19, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
I will do the necessary within the boundaries of our agreement. Binsarhills ( talk) 22:26, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
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Your edit summary gave me a smile. On a day when we are up to Beta in the Hurricane name list and it's not even Autumn yet, I needed something to smile at. Thank you. In any case, the answer to your question is one, but within minutes someone will take out the new bulb and put the old one back. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 21:20, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Hello Uanfala. Recently you made an edit at Hindko, which may indicate you know something about the languages of the subcontinent. I'm trying to mediate a dispute at Swati (Pashtun tribe) (per my talk page) and am wondering if I could address some questions to you when I actually get going on it. One of the puzzles is whether Swatis who speak Hindko should still be thought of as Pashto, or as Pashtunized, or [appropriate word here]. This issue is terribly important to the people who are involved so I shouldn't make light of it. But having reliable sources would be a wonderful thing. Or, if I can get any background information from long-time Wikipedia editors who know something. Thanks, EdJohnston ( talk) 20:36, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
Hi Uanfala, since you have made edits on Uttarakhand before, I am sending you this message to alert you of a discussion on its talk page regarding the replacement of images in the infobox. Your input in this matter would be greatly appreciated. Prolix 💬 17:45, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
Hi Uanfala, there's a discussion here regarding one of the 12 Jyotrlingas, there seems to be some sort of controversy regarding the actual location of a particular Jyotirlinga which I am trying to help solve. I don't know how how much knowledge you have regarding this subject but I hope you can provide some insight. Prolix 💬 19:20, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
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this edit at 04:17, 7 January 2020 (UTC). The page that had been linked,
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22:59, 28 September 2020 (UTC)From WP:Page mover:
any administrator can grant this right to experienced and trusted users who regularly move pages and demonstrate familiarity with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines regarding page moving and naming.
Which is confusing because Wikipedia apparently has no "policies and guidelines regarding page moving" – there is only a Wikipedia:Article titles naming policy.
So:
any administrator can grant this right to experienced and trusted users who regularly move pages and demonstrate familiarity with Wikipedia's policy regarding naming.
I'm annoyed because today I saw a page mover had round-robin moved a page where any cursory review of applicable guidelines – if we had any – would have shown this was "potentially controversial" and should have been rejected as a WP:RM technical request. And then shortly later this move was reverted by another page-mover round-robin... leaving a clusterf*** of a mess of a page history on the title.
And I can't really fault them for not following any guidelines because we don't have any clear guidelines. Your thoughts?
P.S. I just noticed that you don't have page mover rights yourself. You would probably have better judgment in using PM privileges than over half the editors who do have them. – wbm1058 ( talk) 20:30, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
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To reply to your good question: deliberate trolling is what it is. A new way (or one I've never seen before) to try to avoid the deletion of that page as a redirect which already had been initiated. -- SergeWoodzing ( talk) 07:16, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Youy wrote: Staszek Lem, this is handled at Wikidata
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You have been trouted for: YOUR REASON HERE Soumyadeep980 ( talk) 14:59, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
Hello and I like to thank you for your huge explained well-defined contribution but I found it unnecessary, I believe most people like to see a Summarized version of WiKi
Cham in briefly refer to: a member of an indigenous people of Vietnam and Cambodia, who formed an independent kingdom from the 2nd to 17th centuries AD.to the first line of the disambiguation page Cham. It duplicates the very first entry on that page, which is for the Chams (the ethnic group you were describing in your addition). If you believe the existing description for that entry is insufficient, feel free to expand (but briefly) that particular entry. – Uanfala (talk) 17:48, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi Uanfala - I hope you're well - especially during these times.
You're correct. In hindsight, I should've stated my reference but I was actually updating the table, sourced from a recent book called 'A Descriptive Grammar of Hindko, Punjabi, and Saraiki', but wasn't able to update it due to the revert/conflict.
Is it okay if I update the table?
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I need someone to pronounce اوږد in the Quetta and Wardak dialects [with foucs on ʒ and ʝ, respectively] so I can upload it to the dialects page. I would also appreciate anyother dialect speakers to upload there versions. Can you please ask Pashtun wikipedians to upload the file on Wikimedia Commons and post it to my talk page.
PashtoAdder4 ( talk) 11:39, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
I was really surprised to find blatant hoaxes by Zeeshan Mehmood's IPs in core articles such as Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa and Gilgit Baltistan which I had to just remove: [5], [6]. I came across a whole host of hoaxes by his IPs, some of which had been there for years really surprised as to how someone didn't notice them till now. Really egregious are his edits about the "provincial symbols", just FYI no province/territory of Pakistan has official symbols besides Sindh (which are limited to a bird, mammal and tree), and Pakistan's symbols are limited to these. Any other listings of symbols (sports, dances, animals etc.) are blatant hoaxes by him. What makes it more difficult is that he repeats his hoaxes across articles so it becomes difficult to easily identify them.
Please see if you can keep an eye on the provinces of Pakistan ( Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa, Gilgit Baltistan, Punjab, Sindh, Balochistan, Azad Kashmir, ICT)?) for hoaxes/edits by his socks, other articles that need to be under watch are the national symbols ones (i.e., Dish, Epic, Flower, Patron saint, Personification, Animals, Birds, Dances, Fruits, Instruments, Trees). Another problem is that he targets not only Pakistan but other countries as well with his hoaxes. These will be a bit easier to stomp out if we can at least stop his hoaxes on the core articles (provinces/symbol list ones). Gotitbro ( talk) 05:49, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
I'm gonna move onto a different category to clean, but you may want to take a look through Category:Pages using WikiProject Pakistan with unknown parameters to see if there's any other parameters you want to get added to the template before I return. The easiest approach may be to use the navigation at the top to jump to each letter and find them that way. JPG-GR ( talk) 22:16, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
|Literature=
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Mar4d has done a lot of tagging here – Mar4d, are these parameters still likely to be used, or should we let people remove them? I've tweaked the template to allow parameters for Punjab, KP and Kashmir, as these appear useful, but how many of the others are needed? –
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|importance=
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[8]. Your point was for the importance ratings to be displayed, right? I'll have to look how that's done, but if you have any specific edits in mind, let me know. –
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The discussion at Talk:Siding (construction) has died off. I thought it was clear that we should not send 80% of the readers unnecessarily through the dab but, some disagree. So should I open another RM at this point? Newest numbers are still 75/25. MB 23:22, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the note about the comment; I will try to remember that when editing disambiguation pages and probably should have noticed that sooner. I just read the discussion on {{ long comment}} and while disambiguation pages may not appear Special:ShortPages, the final comment confirms that set index articless are still included; you can see that Tropical sage is currently on the list. — Ost ( talk) 04:10, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
I just wanted to say "Thank you!" again for rescuing Belokhvostik and Mikhailovsky Square articles. Your support is very much appreciated! Sincerely, Partizan Kuzya ( talk) 20:44, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Hello, Atropatene is the ancient name of the region of Azerbaijan. This is a historical fact. please dont delete my edits. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohammad785 ( talk • contribs) 15:32, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
Azerbaijan or Azərbaycan may also refer to:Can the word "Azerbaijan" ever refer to the Old Azeri language, or that 17th-century battle? I'd be really surprised if it did. Feel free to explain if you believe the opposite is true, but please don't go on like that. You've been reverted there several times by several people, and if you continue edit warring, the only thing you're likely to achieve is getting yourself blocked. – Uanfala (talk) 16:31, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
Yes, I agree with you, and I may have been wrong about the ancient Azeri and the Safavid-Ottoman war, and that Albania is now in Europe and no longer belongs to the Caucasus, but the real name of Azerbaijan is Aran, and this page is about Azerbaijan. Not about the country of Aran (the fake Republic of Azerbaijan). Before becoming an independent country, Aran was part of Iran along with Azerbaijan, Russia, and Aturpatgan is not only related to Iranian Azerbaijan, it is related to the whole region of Azerbaijan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohammad785 ( talk • contribs) 09:22, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
There are hundreds of surname pages containing two names. If you do not like such pages, please oppose all of them. Xx236 ( talk) 07:16, 16 December 2020 (UTC) Valentiny, Grella
re [10] yes, that was a mistake. My guess is that I accidentally cut rather than copied but it certainly wasn't intentional! Thryduulf ( talk) 10:13, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
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I replaced that source with several reliable sources, including the Census of Pakistan. There should be no issues with the content now. If you have any, you are welcome to discuss them rather than remove them altogether. I hope this helps. With regards, Anupam Talk 00:59, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
By the way, I am extremely upset that you attempted to entirely thwart my efforts to bring the article to DYK status with a subject you only know about peripherally. I would have been happy to find more references and improve the article but you tried to block me from doing so. That was very rude. Anupam Talk 01:05, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
This guy went on a rampage. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 14:35, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
If you get the chance, could you take a look at this? Anything with "undoubtedly" ....!-- RegentsPark ( comment) 16:55, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
You will detect the irony when I suddenly remember this [12], no? ;) – Austronesier ( talk) 20:14, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
Just wondering, how common is this? [13] (No, not tagging by IPs, but the tagged information.) I have found anecdotical evidence here on p. 43, but is its occurrence above the "speech defect threshold"? – Austronesier ( talk) 18:57, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
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Hello, you mentioned asking for a hatnote-mover bot at this discussion a few weeks ago: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Layout § A bot to move incorrectly placed hatnotes?
Were you still pursuing this idea? If not, where were you going to put in the request? — Goszei ( talk) 03:23, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for your help on Madi; I missed that alternate spelling (obviously). And more importantly, I didn't know that you could ping from an edit summary! That's really useful. Leschnei ( talk) 11:48, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
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The Disambiguator's Barnstar is awarded to Wikipedians who are prolific disambiguators. For your long-standing contributions to disambiguation pages and thoughtful participation in disambiguation discussions! JHunterJ ( talk) 20:18, 13 August 2020 (UTC) |
I have often (or, uhm, occasionally) consulted the unbarnstarred Uanfala for dab-help, I now do so with even greater awe: do you think this [1] make sense? I am especially unsure about the "one of"-thing. – Austronesier ( talk) 21:24, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
"non-answer"might earn you a Modesty Barnstar ;) – Austronesier ( talk) 10:04, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
Thank you Uanfala for adding information about dosut Arqamkhawaja ( talk) 14:20, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
Three accounts all registered the same day with no contributions other than adding links to Anderson. Still think there's no self-promotion here? Guy ( help! - typo?) 08:11, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
Michi44 ( talk) 19:55, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
Hi. I left a response regarding Bab. at that article's talk page. I'll keep watching there for that discussion.
Did not want to mix up the discussion there, so I come here for this tangentially related item. In the article Talmud, it says that
It looks like someone messed with the Shas (disambiguation) page a few days ago, adding something but dropping a "]". I would fix the bracket, but have no idea if anything else they did is correct. Could you take a look at it? Thanks. Jmg38 ( talk) 20:12, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
In the article for Sanskrit, you removed the (correct) sentence that Sanskrit has influenced non-Indo-European Indian languages like Malayalam, Kannada, Telugu etc.
That statement is true. Much of the vocab of Kannada, Malayalam and Telugu come from Sanskrit, even basic vocabulary like terms for sun, moon, day, night etc. This influence is comparable to influence of Latin on English. The phonology also has been modelled on Sanskrit and even native words are pronounced like that.
It is true that Tamil's phonology is not affected by Sanskrit and that it contains lesser Sanskrit loan words. However there is still influence as many Tamil words come from Sanskrit. There were many more words in the past which were replaced by native Tamil words as a result of linguistic purism.
Please restore that sentence because it is true.
03:13, 31 August 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4042:2EAD:A843:0:0:EAC8:5F02 ( talk)
Here's the one for Sylheti [2], Table 3. I'm too lazy to cite and make the adjustments; I was drawn into the maelstrom of the Brahmaputra, that's tiring, I tell you! ;) – Austronesier ( talk) 11:20, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
Kindly check these changes]. I believe you removed the pie-chart in the past? - Fylindfotberserk ( talk) 10:00, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
Hi there, may I know that why did you remove the part which said that Garhwali is officially considered as a dialect of Hindi. I had clearly provided a link of MHRD's document conveying so. Mind you that MHRD abbreviates to Ministry of Human Resource and Development, India. It is the concerned body which deals with classification of languages and dialects in India. Binsarhills ( talk) 16:40, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification. Binsarhills ( talk) 18:58, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
Hi, may I know how can you source some information on a Wikipedia page based on another Wikipedia page. Binsarhills ( talk) 16:12, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
If this was allowed then wouldn't someone edit some wiki page to use it as a source for another page so as to display what he/she wishes too? Binsarhills ( talk) 16:14, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
This is contradictory to the fact that jaunsari is a western pahari language although, jausar bhawar region lies in uttrakhand Binsarhills ( talk) 16:22, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
Same goes for southeast j&k Binsarhills ( talk) 16:23, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
Dogri was previously considered as a dialect of Punjabi however, now it has been adopted into the group of western pahari languages. You may check this one out: https://linguistlist.org/issues/29/29-1717/ Coming to my second point, you said that:"...any mention of "Jammu and Kashmir" will likely prompt readers to think of the unrelated "Pahari" of western Kashmir...". The whole purpose of a Wikipedia article is to inform it's readers everything about the topic without being concerned about the thoughts that may be induced in their minds. As an example, you might know about the Jat community in North India. Haryana has domination of the Jats all over the State, however, far west UP also shares the same culture. But, as you might know that Central and eastern UP has a contrastingly different culture. However, when distribution of the Jat community is described, the state of UP is also mentioned. If we go by your theory, mentioning of UP should prompt the readers to think that jats are like the people of central and eastern UP. Binsarhills ( talk) 18:56, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
Also, i would like to bring it to your notice that we had disagreements regarding calling Western Pahari languages as Himachali languages to which, you asked me to visit those links. I feel that the situation I described above gives me a perfect opportunity to explain what I am trying to say. Now, the word 'Jat' has something to do with ethinicicity, something which is cultural and has been practiced for centuries however the word 'haryanvi' is political as it associates the culture to a state formed a few decades ago. Now, would you call the people of west UP jats or haryanvi. Clearly both communities are same but they are still jats, aren't they? By acknowledging only the people who live in Haryana as jats, you are excluding the jats of neighbouring states although the kat community has a majority in Haryana state only. Similarly, by calling western pahari language as Himachali language, you are making readers think that only the languages of Himachal Pradesh are classified as western pahari language, which is far from reality. Binsarhills ( talk) 19:10, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
That's great. Cheers. Binsarhills ( talk) 22:19, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
I will do the necessary within the boundaries of our agreement. Binsarhills ( talk) 22:26, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
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Your edit summary gave me a smile. On a day when we are up to Beta in the Hurricane name list and it's not even Autumn yet, I needed something to smile at. Thank you. In any case, the answer to your question is one, but within minutes someone will take out the new bulb and put the old one back. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 21:20, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Hello Uanfala. Recently you made an edit at Hindko, which may indicate you know something about the languages of the subcontinent. I'm trying to mediate a dispute at Swati (Pashtun tribe) (per my talk page) and am wondering if I could address some questions to you when I actually get going on it. One of the puzzles is whether Swatis who speak Hindko should still be thought of as Pashto, or as Pashtunized, or [appropriate word here]. This issue is terribly important to the people who are involved so I shouldn't make light of it. But having reliable sources would be a wonderful thing. Or, if I can get any background information from long-time Wikipedia editors who know something. Thanks, EdJohnston ( talk) 20:36, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
Hi Uanfala, since you have made edits on Uttarakhand before, I am sending you this message to alert you of a discussion on its talk page regarding the replacement of images in the infobox. Your input in this matter would be greatly appreciated. Prolix 💬 17:45, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
Hi Uanfala, there's a discussion here regarding one of the 12 Jyotrlingas, there seems to be some sort of controversy regarding the actual location of a particular Jyotirlinga which I am trying to help solve. I don't know how how much knowledge you have regarding this subject but I hope you can provide some insight. Prolix 💬 19:20, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
The |Punjab=
parameter was removed from {{
WikiProject Pakistan}}
nearly nine months ago by
UnitedStatesian (
talk ·
contribs) with
this edit at 04:17, 7 January 2020 (UTC). The page that had been linked,
WikiProject Western Punjab, was deleted a week later by
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk ·
contribs) at 09:32, 14 January 2020 (UTC) following
this MfD so there is no longer any reason for the parameter to exist. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
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20:38, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
|Sindh=yes
, such as
Talk:Sindh) or categorise for Punjab. All that happens is that it returns the page to
Category:Pages using WikiProject Pakistan with unknown parameters. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
22:21, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
|Punjab=
parameter depended upon the existence of a task force page, which is now deleted. The WikiProject was informed of that deletion one week before it occurred, see
this alert. There is also a related notice at
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pakistan/Archive 1#Miscellany for deletion/Pakistan-related WikiProjects. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
22:59, 28 September 2020 (UTC)From WP:Page mover:
any administrator can grant this right to experienced and trusted users who regularly move pages and demonstrate familiarity with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines regarding page moving and naming.
Which is confusing because Wikipedia apparently has no "policies and guidelines regarding page moving" – there is only a Wikipedia:Article titles naming policy.
So:
any administrator can grant this right to experienced and trusted users who regularly move pages and demonstrate familiarity with Wikipedia's policy regarding naming.
I'm annoyed because today I saw a page mover had round-robin moved a page where any cursory review of applicable guidelines – if we had any – would have shown this was "potentially controversial" and should have been rejected as a WP:RM technical request. And then shortly later this move was reverted by another page-mover round-robin... leaving a clusterf*** of a mess of a page history on the title.
And I can't really fault them for not following any guidelines because we don't have any clear guidelines. Your thoughts?
P.S. I just noticed that you don't have page mover rights yourself. You would probably have better judgment in using PM privileges than over half the editors who do have them. – wbm1058 ( talk) 20:30, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect
Template:Other uses (disambiguation). The discussion will occur at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 October 4#Template:Other uses (disambiguation) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Seventyfiveyears (
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14:53, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
To reply to your good question: deliberate trolling is what it is. A new way (or one I've never seen before) to try to avoid the deletion of that page as a redirect which already had been initiated. -- SergeWoodzing ( talk) 07:16, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Youy wrote: Staszek Lem, this is handled at Wikidata
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You have been trouted for: YOUR REASON HERE Soumyadeep980 ( talk) 14:59, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
Hello and I like to thank you for your huge explained well-defined contribution but I found it unnecessary, I believe most people like to see a Summarized version of WiKi
Cham in briefly refer to: a member of an indigenous people of Vietnam and Cambodia, who formed an independent kingdom from the 2nd to 17th centuries AD.to the first line of the disambiguation page Cham. It duplicates the very first entry on that page, which is for the Chams (the ethnic group you were describing in your addition). If you believe the existing description for that entry is insufficient, feel free to expand (but briefly) that particular entry. – Uanfala (talk) 17:48, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi Uanfala - I hope you're well - especially during these times.
You're correct. In hindsight, I should've stated my reference but I was actually updating the table, sourced from a recent book called 'A Descriptive Grammar of Hindko, Punjabi, and Saraiki', but wasn't able to update it due to the revert/conflict.
Is it okay if I update the table?
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00:53, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
Have a good day/night :) :
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01:39, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
I need someone to pronounce اوږد in the Quetta and Wardak dialects [with foucs on ʒ and ʝ, respectively] so I can upload it to the dialects page. I would also appreciate anyother dialect speakers to upload there versions. Can you please ask Pashtun wikipedians to upload the file on Wikimedia Commons and post it to my talk page.
PashtoAdder4 ( talk) 11:39, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
I was really surprised to find blatant hoaxes by Zeeshan Mehmood's IPs in core articles such as Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa and Gilgit Baltistan which I had to just remove: [5], [6]. I came across a whole host of hoaxes by his IPs, some of which had been there for years really surprised as to how someone didn't notice them till now. Really egregious are his edits about the "provincial symbols", just FYI no province/territory of Pakistan has official symbols besides Sindh (which are limited to a bird, mammal and tree), and Pakistan's symbols are limited to these. Any other listings of symbols (sports, dances, animals etc.) are blatant hoaxes by him. What makes it more difficult is that he repeats his hoaxes across articles so it becomes difficult to easily identify them.
Please see if you can keep an eye on the provinces of Pakistan ( Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa, Gilgit Baltistan, Punjab, Sindh, Balochistan, Azad Kashmir, ICT)?) for hoaxes/edits by his socks, other articles that need to be under watch are the national symbols ones (i.e., Dish, Epic, Flower, Patron saint, Personification, Animals, Birds, Dances, Fruits, Instruments, Trees). Another problem is that he targets not only Pakistan but other countries as well with his hoaxes. These will be a bit easier to stomp out if we can at least stop his hoaxes on the core articles (provinces/symbol list ones). Gotitbro ( talk) 05:49, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
I'm gonna move onto a different category to clean, but you may want to take a look through Category:Pages using WikiProject Pakistan with unknown parameters to see if there's any other parameters you want to get added to the template before I return. The easiest approach may be to use the navigation at the top to jump to each letter and find them that way. JPG-GR ( talk) 22:16, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
|Literature=
or |Lahore=
. I see that
Mar4d has done a lot of tagging here – Mar4d, are these parameters still likely to be used, or should we let people remove them? I've tweaked the template to allow parameters for Punjab, KP and Kashmir, as these appear useful, but how many of the others are needed? –
Uanfala (talk)
22:27, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
|importance=
parameters to the list of accepted parameters
[8]. Your point was for the importance ratings to be displayed, right? I'll have to look how that's done, but if you have any specific edits in mind, let me know. –
Uanfala (talk)
00:39, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
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The discussion at Talk:Siding (construction) has died off. I thought it was clear that we should not send 80% of the readers unnecessarily through the dab but, some disagree. So should I open another RM at this point? Newest numbers are still 75/25. MB 23:22, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the note about the comment; I will try to remember that when editing disambiguation pages and probably should have noticed that sooner. I just read the discussion on {{ long comment}} and while disambiguation pages may not appear Special:ShortPages, the final comment confirms that set index articless are still included; you can see that Tropical sage is currently on the list. — Ost ( talk) 04:10, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
I just wanted to say "Thank you!" again for rescuing Belokhvostik and Mikhailovsky Square articles. Your support is very much appreciated! Sincerely, Partizan Kuzya ( talk) 20:44, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Hello, Atropatene is the ancient name of the region of Azerbaijan. This is a historical fact. please dont delete my edits. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohammad785 ( talk • contribs) 15:32, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
Azerbaijan or Azərbaycan may also refer to:Can the word "Azerbaijan" ever refer to the Old Azeri language, or that 17th-century battle? I'd be really surprised if it did. Feel free to explain if you believe the opposite is true, but please don't go on like that. You've been reverted there several times by several people, and if you continue edit warring, the only thing you're likely to achieve is getting yourself blocked. – Uanfala (talk) 16:31, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
Yes, I agree with you, and I may have been wrong about the ancient Azeri and the Safavid-Ottoman war, and that Albania is now in Europe and no longer belongs to the Caucasus, but the real name of Azerbaijan is Aran, and this page is about Azerbaijan. Not about the country of Aran (the fake Republic of Azerbaijan). Before becoming an independent country, Aran was part of Iran along with Azerbaijan, Russia, and Aturpatgan is not only related to Iranian Azerbaijan, it is related to the whole region of Azerbaijan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohammad785 ( talk • contribs) 09:22, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
There are hundreds of surname pages containing two names. If you do not like such pages, please oppose all of them. Xx236 ( talk) 07:16, 16 December 2020 (UTC) Valentiny, Grella
re [10] yes, that was a mistake. My guess is that I accidentally cut rather than copied but it certainly wasn't intentional! Thryduulf ( talk) 10:13, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
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I replaced that source with several reliable sources, including the Census of Pakistan. There should be no issues with the content now. If you have any, you are welcome to discuss them rather than remove them altogether. I hope this helps. With regards, Anupam Talk 00:59, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
By the way, I am extremely upset that you attempted to entirely thwart my efforts to bring the article to DYK status with a subject you only know about peripherally. I would have been happy to find more references and improve the article but you tried to block me from doing so. That was very rude. Anupam Talk 01:05, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
This guy went on a rampage. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 14:35, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
If you get the chance, could you take a look at this? Anything with "undoubtedly" ....!-- RegentsPark ( comment) 16:55, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
You will detect the irony when I suddenly remember this [12], no? ;) – Austronesier ( talk) 20:14, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
Just wondering, how common is this? [13] (No, not tagging by IPs, but the tagged information.) I have found anecdotical evidence here on p. 43, but is its occurrence above the "speech defect threshold"? – Austronesier ( talk) 18:57, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
Uanfala,
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