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I looked at your contributions and I believe that when you have reverted edits, you have done so appropriately. So, I have added rollback rights to your account. Please note that rollback should be used only for blatant vandalism and does not leave a useful edit summary. I hope you find it useful, but if not, just ask and I will remove it. — Remember the dot ( talk) 06:36, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi again. Thanks for alerting me about the archive link and repairing it. I guess I'm surprised Wikipedia's move function doesn't handle these situations, but am grateful to've been made aware. I'll try to remember to look out for this possibility in future. Sardanaphalus ( talk) 02:59, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi again. I'm puzzled as to why you've introduced {{ documentation}} when (1) there's no documentation, and (2) this isn't a protected template. What am I missing? Sardanaphalus ( talk) 17:02, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Excuses to erase the label, you can help please to improve the style of the article?, thank you very much.-- Bostokrev ( talk) 23:33, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Calling Linux an operating system is fascism. If more people would call Adolf Hitler a good guy, would that be right? It's obvoius that you are just an open source guy that wants to destroy for the free software movement. -- 212.247.27.19 ( talk) 15:51, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Hey Chris, I'm pretty sure it's not me you're accusing of short-circuiting the discussion.. can you clarify to whom you were making that comment? I think we virtually e/c'd.... The Rambling Man ( talk) 18:12, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for changing the Obama FAQ to hide/show - was trying to find out how to do that! Tvoz | talk 23:47, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
I couldn't agree more, but as the creator of said section (and several other sections of nonsense that have since been deleted from the page) has accused more than one person of "vandalism" during attempts to remove it, tagging it as garbage is about as much as we've been able to do until we get a neutral party involved Requests#Neutral_part_needed_on_Maemo_page. If you want to nuke it, though, feel free to do so. :) It really is nonsense and attempts to resolve it on the talk page have been less than successful. I just don't want the tags misleading people into thinking the whole article is biased, OR, non-NPOV nonsense when it's only the single section. GeneralAntilles ( talk) 16:38, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads-up. I'll gather some information on the subject, and post it again. Grin.exe ( talk) 20:40, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm about to add one or two new parameter(s) to the Infobox programming language template but I want to hear opinions to be sure I'm not going wrong. I suggest to add :
turing-complete = yes|no
(yes if this language can compute every Turing-computable function, no if not)turing-complete_lacks = xxx
(the reasons this language cannot compute every Turing-computable function; only appears if turing-complete
is present and is equal to "no")example :
| turing-complete = no | turing-complete_lacks = impossible to form loops
result :
Turing-complete no (impossible to form loops)
Ftiercel (
talk) 10:47, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
| turing-complete = Yes
Or
| turing-complete = No (impossible to form loops)
Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 10:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I noticed your edit to the LZMA article removing the section on the Windowsy-history and the two Unix ports. Do you think it would be useful to restore the Unix-part as there are currently two (incompatible) ports available [because of header-differences, the streams produced without extra can not be interchanged]. Needs further checking up to see what the true status-quo is. — Sladen ( talk) 09:21, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi Chris! I've expanded and edited your summary and encouraged others to do the same. You should take a look and make changes to it at Talk:Linux/Referring to this article. Perhaps more importantly, can you look at the area I've put up under proposed solutions. We should start working on that as well and I just summarized what I've seen you arguing and want to make sure I get it right and give you a chance to fix it up. Thanks! — mako ๛ 17:18, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
You say
How exactly do you think that a representative of a company removing referenced material from an article relating to that companies' goods and trademarks is NOT a WP:COI?- ( User) WolfKeeper ( Talk) 07:25, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
I've replied on my talk page. SF007 ( talk) 15:17, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi. You are proposing to delete the article on WTFPL on the grounds that there are only two recorded instances other than the author's own software. I assume this is from looking at the Freshmeat database. However, there are plenty of things using the WTFPL that aren't listed on the Freshmeat gallery, for instance:
In addition, it has ~22,400 results on Google, was voted a clear Keep the last time it was on AfD [2], and has been referenced many times:
Because of this, I am removing your proposed deletion. Feel free to list the article in AfD if you disagree. Zarel ( talk) 00:01, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
I've commented here. · AndonicO Engage. 17:16, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Chris!
I have noticed that you deleted the link I put on the WINE software article about the real possibility of that compatibility layer running Microsoft Windows virii (or viruses). I consider that you should, at least, provide another link discussing upon the same subject and well suited to Wikipedia ways.
But, as you deleted the useful link I written, I admit that you read the entire thread and, as I did, also noticed the problems related by those WINE users and their poor performance complainings (CPU usage, memory usage, slow processing, virus infection of super-user files, and so on) when running some Microsoft Windows virii, even though using just a compatibility layer, as WINE.
Best Regards!
-- Nosophorus ( talk) 18:38, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
No, you're wrong...
I wrote all text on my own. Sources actually are release notes, readme (contains a lot of valuable info), feedback on ngemu.com forums, and last but not least my own PS emu experience and testing of this release. But I repeat: I rewrote, reorganized all content.
1.7.0 is a big step of ePSXe and drastically change its usage (no need of 1.5.2, much less fixes on a per-game basis, internal plugins now even better than third-party plugins), so it is important to mention this in its page. However, a "1.7.0" section is not so good, it is of course better than merge it (at least for some parts) with the main content, as you apparently began to do.
Od1n ( talk) 14:03, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Has the Linux (detergent) page gone, or did it never exist? Paul Beardsell ( talk) 11:57, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
That you hold that "X Windows" is disparaging and is not to be used strikes me as odd. You are so keen that "Linux" be used bareword to mean "Linux operating system" because that is the popular usage. Well, "X Windows" is the popular term. And there is no possible confusion. Surely your primary motivation is not contradiction rather than contribution?
Paul Beardsell ( talk) 13:54, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
It's interesting that there are a number of inaccuracies in the X Windows article reflected, I think, in many places throughout WP in relation to what an operating system is and what a kernel is. The particular example I have in mind is the assertion that X Windows is an application layer on top of the kernel. No! It rests on the operating system, which is the set of services provided by the libraries and utilities married to the kernel. In the Linux world these libraries are the (near-)essential components provided by the GNU project that provide the POSIX layer that makes Linux containing operating systems Unix-like. These issues are not broadly understood and, in my view, contribute to the widespread misunderstanding re the Linux (kernel) vs Linux (operating system) disambiguation issues. And were they understood they might undermine the hostility to the GNU/Linux moniker, as the debt to the GNU project would be apparent. Interestingly, Torvalds first post was that he had got Bash and GCC working. GNU utilities. But first he got GLIBC working. GNU libraries.
Paul Beardsell ( talk) 13:54, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Here you tell me, "I'm terribly sorry for your accidental funding of the re-election of George Bush." Assuming good faith, I presume you accidentally omitted the word "partial" before the word "funding". As written, the apology seems highly sarcastic. And yes, I view Bush in such a light that I would never knowingly wish to contribute to his administration in any way whatsoever. In my personal opinion, history will judge him as the very worst president in U.S. history, in no small measure due to the national debt his misguided policies have foisted upon future generations. There is no way I can avoid doing business with Bush supporters, since everyone is free to keep private their political views. But when someone chooses to rub into my nose the fact that he supports Bush to the tune of a quarter of a million dollars in a single contribution, that's where I take grave offense. I now utterly despise my Inspiron 9100, and I rue the day that I bought it, belittlers notwithstanding. Blame it on my ENFP Myers-Briggs personality type, which many people, especially ISTJ types, find utterly incomprehensible. Thanks for your patience with my priorities. -- Art Smart ( talk) 23:11, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Oh haiIn adding the mentioned tag, you asked others to improve the article by removing poor and/or irrelevant examples. I had a look and did not find the examples to be either, but to give a simple demonstration of the language's structure and its development. Granted, it's longer than it needs to be for that, but as this esoteric programming language's claim to fame is the weirdness of its commands there's value in demonstrating a reasonable amount of them. If you don't object, I'll do away with the tag. --
Kiz
o
r 18:28, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Chris. Please excuse the random message, but I wonder if you might know - what does the term "phx" mean when referring to networking? The only things I can find refer to companies with the names "PHX" or the place Phoenix. Dunno if you can shed any light on it. ~~ [Jam] [talk] 22:21, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Chris, perhaps you might care to assist in " leaving the damn thing alone" by reverting to the steady state / status quo we have been at for some time, a state each of us and others have been refraining from editing. It would send an appropriate message for you to do so from your side of the fence. Paul Beardsell ( talk) 23:57, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Your rollback was crude and lost valuable information, including a picture you didn't bother re-adding. FiveRings ( talk) 02:49, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Sorry; I'll have to disagree with you on the template that I removed, while suggesting in the Edit Summary that the editor make the changes he/she thought necessary or move the discuss to the Talk page. It was the right thing to do.
The "tone" template, like others that deal with subjective style topics or matters that don't matter to readers ("few articles link to this one"), do not belong atop articles - their visual interference with wikipedia as a reader resource far outweighs their usefullness as a note to editors. That's why there are separate Talk pages, so we can discuss editing and content issues without interfering with the article.
Templates are a loud signal to readers and should be reserved for matters of importance to readers - this article may be NPOV, this article lacks citations so we're uncertain about its versimilitude, this article deals with a future or ongoing event, this article is being considered for deletion. Removing unimportant templates improves the article by preventing distractions, and I'm happy to do so. - DavidWBrooks ( talk) 19:17, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 10 | ← | Archive 14 | Archive 15 | Archive 16 | Archive 17 | Archive 18 | → | Archive 20 |
I looked at your contributions and I believe that when you have reverted edits, you have done so appropriately. So, I have added rollback rights to your account. Please note that rollback should be used only for blatant vandalism and does not leave a useful edit summary. I hope you find it useful, but if not, just ask and I will remove it. — Remember the dot ( talk) 06:36, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi again. Thanks for alerting me about the archive link and repairing it. I guess I'm surprised Wikipedia's move function doesn't handle these situations, but am grateful to've been made aware. I'll try to remember to look out for this possibility in future. Sardanaphalus ( talk) 02:59, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi again. I'm puzzled as to why you've introduced {{ documentation}} when (1) there's no documentation, and (2) this isn't a protected template. What am I missing? Sardanaphalus ( talk) 17:02, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Excuses to erase the label, you can help please to improve the style of the article?, thank you very much.-- Bostokrev ( talk) 23:33, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Calling Linux an operating system is fascism. If more people would call Adolf Hitler a good guy, would that be right? It's obvoius that you are just an open source guy that wants to destroy for the free software movement. -- 212.247.27.19 ( talk) 15:51, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Hey Chris, I'm pretty sure it's not me you're accusing of short-circuiting the discussion.. can you clarify to whom you were making that comment? I think we virtually e/c'd.... The Rambling Man ( talk) 18:12, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for changing the Obama FAQ to hide/show - was trying to find out how to do that! Tvoz | talk 23:47, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
I couldn't agree more, but as the creator of said section (and several other sections of nonsense that have since been deleted from the page) has accused more than one person of "vandalism" during attempts to remove it, tagging it as garbage is about as much as we've been able to do until we get a neutral party involved Requests#Neutral_part_needed_on_Maemo_page. If you want to nuke it, though, feel free to do so. :) It really is nonsense and attempts to resolve it on the talk page have been less than successful. I just don't want the tags misleading people into thinking the whole article is biased, OR, non-NPOV nonsense when it's only the single section. GeneralAntilles ( talk) 16:38, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads-up. I'll gather some information on the subject, and post it again. Grin.exe ( talk) 20:40, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm about to add one or two new parameter(s) to the Infobox programming language template but I want to hear opinions to be sure I'm not going wrong. I suggest to add :
turing-complete = yes|no
(yes if this language can compute every Turing-computable function, no if not)turing-complete_lacks = xxx
(the reasons this language cannot compute every Turing-computable function; only appears if turing-complete
is present and is equal to "no")example :
| turing-complete = no | turing-complete_lacks = impossible to form loops
result :
Turing-complete no (impossible to form loops)
Ftiercel (
talk) 10:47, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
| turing-complete = Yes
Or
| turing-complete = No (impossible to form loops)
Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 10:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I noticed your edit to the LZMA article removing the section on the Windowsy-history and the two Unix ports. Do you think it would be useful to restore the Unix-part as there are currently two (incompatible) ports available [because of header-differences, the streams produced without extra can not be interchanged]. Needs further checking up to see what the true status-quo is. — Sladen ( talk) 09:21, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi Chris! I've expanded and edited your summary and encouraged others to do the same. You should take a look and make changes to it at Talk:Linux/Referring to this article. Perhaps more importantly, can you look at the area I've put up under proposed solutions. We should start working on that as well and I just summarized what I've seen you arguing and want to make sure I get it right and give you a chance to fix it up. Thanks! — mako ๛ 17:18, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
You say
How exactly do you think that a representative of a company removing referenced material from an article relating to that companies' goods and trademarks is NOT a WP:COI?- ( User) WolfKeeper ( Talk) 07:25, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
I've replied on my talk page. SF007 ( talk) 15:17, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi. You are proposing to delete the article on WTFPL on the grounds that there are only two recorded instances other than the author's own software. I assume this is from looking at the Freshmeat database. However, there are plenty of things using the WTFPL that aren't listed on the Freshmeat gallery, for instance:
In addition, it has ~22,400 results on Google, was voted a clear Keep the last time it was on AfD [2], and has been referenced many times:
Because of this, I am removing your proposed deletion. Feel free to list the article in AfD if you disagree. Zarel ( talk) 00:01, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
I've commented here. · AndonicO Engage. 17:16, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Chris!
I have noticed that you deleted the link I put on the WINE software article about the real possibility of that compatibility layer running Microsoft Windows virii (or viruses). I consider that you should, at least, provide another link discussing upon the same subject and well suited to Wikipedia ways.
But, as you deleted the useful link I written, I admit that you read the entire thread and, as I did, also noticed the problems related by those WINE users and their poor performance complainings (CPU usage, memory usage, slow processing, virus infection of super-user files, and so on) when running some Microsoft Windows virii, even though using just a compatibility layer, as WINE.
Best Regards!
-- Nosophorus ( talk) 18:38, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
No, you're wrong...
I wrote all text on my own. Sources actually are release notes, readme (contains a lot of valuable info), feedback on ngemu.com forums, and last but not least my own PS emu experience and testing of this release. But I repeat: I rewrote, reorganized all content.
1.7.0 is a big step of ePSXe and drastically change its usage (no need of 1.5.2, much less fixes on a per-game basis, internal plugins now even better than third-party plugins), so it is important to mention this in its page. However, a "1.7.0" section is not so good, it is of course better than merge it (at least for some parts) with the main content, as you apparently began to do.
Od1n ( talk) 14:03, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Has the Linux (detergent) page gone, or did it never exist? Paul Beardsell ( talk) 11:57, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
That you hold that "X Windows" is disparaging and is not to be used strikes me as odd. You are so keen that "Linux" be used bareword to mean "Linux operating system" because that is the popular usage. Well, "X Windows" is the popular term. And there is no possible confusion. Surely your primary motivation is not contradiction rather than contribution?
Paul Beardsell ( talk) 13:54, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
It's interesting that there are a number of inaccuracies in the X Windows article reflected, I think, in many places throughout WP in relation to what an operating system is and what a kernel is. The particular example I have in mind is the assertion that X Windows is an application layer on top of the kernel. No! It rests on the operating system, which is the set of services provided by the libraries and utilities married to the kernel. In the Linux world these libraries are the (near-)essential components provided by the GNU project that provide the POSIX layer that makes Linux containing operating systems Unix-like. These issues are not broadly understood and, in my view, contribute to the widespread misunderstanding re the Linux (kernel) vs Linux (operating system) disambiguation issues. And were they understood they might undermine the hostility to the GNU/Linux moniker, as the debt to the GNU project would be apparent. Interestingly, Torvalds first post was that he had got Bash and GCC working. GNU utilities. But first he got GLIBC working. GNU libraries.
Paul Beardsell ( talk) 13:54, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Here you tell me, "I'm terribly sorry for your accidental funding of the re-election of George Bush." Assuming good faith, I presume you accidentally omitted the word "partial" before the word "funding". As written, the apology seems highly sarcastic. And yes, I view Bush in such a light that I would never knowingly wish to contribute to his administration in any way whatsoever. In my personal opinion, history will judge him as the very worst president in U.S. history, in no small measure due to the national debt his misguided policies have foisted upon future generations. There is no way I can avoid doing business with Bush supporters, since everyone is free to keep private their political views. But when someone chooses to rub into my nose the fact that he supports Bush to the tune of a quarter of a million dollars in a single contribution, that's where I take grave offense. I now utterly despise my Inspiron 9100, and I rue the day that I bought it, belittlers notwithstanding. Blame it on my ENFP Myers-Briggs personality type, which many people, especially ISTJ types, find utterly incomprehensible. Thanks for your patience with my priorities. -- Art Smart ( talk) 23:11, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Oh haiIn adding the mentioned tag, you asked others to improve the article by removing poor and/or irrelevant examples. I had a look and did not find the examples to be either, but to give a simple demonstration of the language's structure and its development. Granted, it's longer than it needs to be for that, but as this esoteric programming language's claim to fame is the weirdness of its commands there's value in demonstrating a reasonable amount of them. If you don't object, I'll do away with the tag. --
Kiz
o
r 18:28, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Chris. Please excuse the random message, but I wonder if you might know - what does the term "phx" mean when referring to networking? The only things I can find refer to companies with the names "PHX" or the place Phoenix. Dunno if you can shed any light on it. ~~ [Jam] [talk] 22:21, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Chris, perhaps you might care to assist in " leaving the damn thing alone" by reverting to the steady state / status quo we have been at for some time, a state each of us and others have been refraining from editing. It would send an appropriate message for you to do so from your side of the fence. Paul Beardsell ( talk) 23:57, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Your rollback was crude and lost valuable information, including a picture you didn't bother re-adding. FiveRings ( talk) 02:49, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Sorry; I'll have to disagree with you on the template that I removed, while suggesting in the Edit Summary that the editor make the changes he/she thought necessary or move the discuss to the Talk page. It was the right thing to do.
The "tone" template, like others that deal with subjective style topics or matters that don't matter to readers ("few articles link to this one"), do not belong atop articles - their visual interference with wikipedia as a reader resource far outweighs their usefullness as a note to editors. That's why there are separate Talk pages, so we can discuss editing and content issues without interfering with the article.
Templates are a loud signal to readers and should be reserved for matters of importance to readers - this article may be NPOV, this article lacks citations so we're uncertain about its versimilitude, this article deals with a future or ongoing event, this article is being considered for deletion. Removing unimportant templates improves the article by preventing distractions, and I'm happy to do so. - DavidWBrooks ( talk) 19:17, 18 June 2008 (UTC)