I do not know what you understand under wikihounding but reverting unhelpful edits is certainly not wikihounding. Try to accept criticism from others. The Banner talk 22:05, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
And often what you claim as "overlinking", leaves items with no links at all. Like René Redzepi, where you removed the only link to Denmark. The Banner talk 07:59, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
We are well past the point where either of you is likely to say, "Sorry. My mistake. You were right." or "How can we work this out?" I suppose you just aren't done talking at each other yet. - SummerPhD v2.0 16:34, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
Re this edit, my concern was not whether bold or normal parentheses should be used, it was whether the name "Phil" needed to be mentioned in the opening sentence at all. The article is titled Phil Chess. His full name, which should be spelled out in the first sentence, was Philip Chess. "Phil" is simply a conventional and obvious shortening of Philip, not a nickname. "It is not always necessary to spell out why the article title and lead paragraph give a different name." My understanding was that, in such cases where it is absolutely obvious what his full name was, including any shortened form in the lead was unnecessary. Where is the guidance that supports your position that it is necessary to include it? Ghmyrtle ( talk) 12:28, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
Similar question: Max Reger. Max is not a nickname nor a stagename, but a frequent abbreviation of Maximilian, see Max und Moritz, Max Beckschäfer. Max Ernst. Bavarians often get 2 to 6 given names which nobody will ever use. Going to move the birth name further down, just to explain why. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 13:28, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
I can't believe that once more "Bill" has been added to the article on Clinton. I'm not going to get in a big argument over this, because I've tried before and gotten nowhere. But do you really think this in any way improves the article? Do you really think readers would be left scratching their heads as to why he's called Bill if "Bill" wasn't there in quotes? The worst thing is that you haven't even justified yourself properly, you've just linked a load of pompous claptrap that claims to be policy. Zacwill ( talk) 21:58, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
Is it meant as an ironic form of dark humour? Or is it serious? Most users I have encountered with accidentally problematic or potentially problematic user names ( myself included) have an explanation on their user page so as to avoid misunderstandings, and even in my case it doesn't seem to work -- I've had the note there for less than half a year and already been accused of being a Nazi once, whereas the previous rate was once every year or two. I think unless you actually believe in the good old days some kind of note on yours would be a good idea. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 01:32, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
( talk page stalker) I think my first interaction with WWS was through seeing their helpful edits on my watchlist this summer. I have appreciated their work in areas involving people of color; I first came to know of WWS through their small and helpful edits on the biographies of Asian Americans. I subsequently came to their talk page to both send thanks and encourage more edit summary usage (these summaries need not be long, maybe just a "reduce overlinking" canned summary or something similar). I confess that I was rubbed the wrong way (insert clothes-washing pun here) when I initially read Wash Whites Separately's username. I myself identify as non-white. Given today's dominant discourse, I didn't come to the laundry conclusion until a few weeks after that. That being said, I assumed good faith as well. Now that the name has been taken to issue, I think there are two options:
Other options, at this point, would not adequately address the issue at hand; in fact, they would come off as insensitive. There is legitimate worry that the name could offend, and indeed, it already has (this thread is an example). I think it is misleading, WWS, to say that "it's literally just you [ 2A02:C7F:8E43:2F00:8D0A:29F4:4869:7D8A ( talk · contribs · WHOIS)] who thinks it is racist". Sure, in a world of pure logic where intentions and meaning are explicit and one-dimensional, that would be the case. I think it's safe to assume that humans don't operate in this simple paradigm. Though, I must add, @ 2A02:C7F:8E43:2F00:8D0A:29F4:4869:7D8A:, your usage of "him/her" refuses to acknowledge those who do not fall within the gender binary. Airplaneman ✈ 02:09, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
Since I was asked, I feel that "Wash Whites Separately" carries the implication that white people should be afforded superior showering facilities, while everyone else (myself included) gets the second-rate areas.
"your usage of 'him/her' refuses to acknowledge those who do not fall within the gender binary"
Seriously? Rejection of the "gender binary" is a concept. That people have visibly different skin colours, with many going through hell because they have the "wrong" one, is cold, brutal reality.
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Why are you removing wikilinks from all these pagers. It is not an improvement. Rmhermen ( talk) 03:06, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
Greetings. Per this, I realise it's slightly crude that both terms link to the same article, but they're there for a reason, and I have yet to see a WP guideline stating that pipe links to identical destinations aren't allowed. The English and British titles both come under the British Boxing Board of Control, hence the links to that article. If a reader fails to understand why the destination is the same, then that cannot be helped unless you have a better idea on how to handle it. It certainly cannot be considered overlinking—neither England nor Britain are being linked to in this case. Mac Dreamstate ( talk) 04:28, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
Edit summaries please! If you don't, I will be forced to bomb your userpage with a sea of smileys. Do not go there. Such a vast amount of yellow may damage your corneas! Here's a taste to show you that I'm serious:
Edit summaries please!
Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 00:43, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
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Hi Sleeping, I accept your points at Bob Perelman about birthplace and overlinking. I still question nationality. American is a commonly understood term, but it seems to me that United States of America is more correct. What is Wikipedia's guidance on this? I don't find it in Template:Infobox person. Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 19:00, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
Your edits made the article unreadable. If you want to contest material, do it, but don't turn the article into a sea of ping. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 06:22, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
Congratulations! You just violated 3RR. Please self-revert or I will report you and you may be blocked from editing. — MShabazz Talk/ Stalk 14:46, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
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I do not know what you understand under wikihounding but reverting unhelpful edits is certainly not wikihounding. Try to accept criticism from others. The Banner talk 22:05, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
And often what you claim as "overlinking", leaves items with no links at all. Like René Redzepi, where you removed the only link to Denmark. The Banner talk 07:59, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
We are well past the point where either of you is likely to say, "Sorry. My mistake. You were right." or "How can we work this out?" I suppose you just aren't done talking at each other yet. - SummerPhD v2.0 16:34, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
Re this edit, my concern was not whether bold or normal parentheses should be used, it was whether the name "Phil" needed to be mentioned in the opening sentence at all. The article is titled Phil Chess. His full name, which should be spelled out in the first sentence, was Philip Chess. "Phil" is simply a conventional and obvious shortening of Philip, not a nickname. "It is not always necessary to spell out why the article title and lead paragraph give a different name." My understanding was that, in such cases where it is absolutely obvious what his full name was, including any shortened form in the lead was unnecessary. Where is the guidance that supports your position that it is necessary to include it? Ghmyrtle ( talk) 12:28, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
Similar question: Max Reger. Max is not a nickname nor a stagename, but a frequent abbreviation of Maximilian, see Max und Moritz, Max Beckschäfer. Max Ernst. Bavarians often get 2 to 6 given names which nobody will ever use. Going to move the birth name further down, just to explain why. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 13:28, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
I can't believe that once more "Bill" has been added to the article on Clinton. I'm not going to get in a big argument over this, because I've tried before and gotten nowhere. But do you really think this in any way improves the article? Do you really think readers would be left scratching their heads as to why he's called Bill if "Bill" wasn't there in quotes? The worst thing is that you haven't even justified yourself properly, you've just linked a load of pompous claptrap that claims to be policy. Zacwill ( talk) 21:58, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
Is it meant as an ironic form of dark humour? Or is it serious? Most users I have encountered with accidentally problematic or potentially problematic user names ( myself included) have an explanation on their user page so as to avoid misunderstandings, and even in my case it doesn't seem to work -- I've had the note there for less than half a year and already been accused of being a Nazi once, whereas the previous rate was once every year or two. I think unless you actually believe in the good old days some kind of note on yours would be a good idea. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 01:32, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
( talk page stalker) I think my first interaction with WWS was through seeing their helpful edits on my watchlist this summer. I have appreciated their work in areas involving people of color; I first came to know of WWS through their small and helpful edits on the biographies of Asian Americans. I subsequently came to their talk page to both send thanks and encourage more edit summary usage (these summaries need not be long, maybe just a "reduce overlinking" canned summary or something similar). I confess that I was rubbed the wrong way (insert clothes-washing pun here) when I initially read Wash Whites Separately's username. I myself identify as non-white. Given today's dominant discourse, I didn't come to the laundry conclusion until a few weeks after that. That being said, I assumed good faith as well. Now that the name has been taken to issue, I think there are two options:
Other options, at this point, would not adequately address the issue at hand; in fact, they would come off as insensitive. There is legitimate worry that the name could offend, and indeed, it already has (this thread is an example). I think it is misleading, WWS, to say that "it's literally just you [ 2A02:C7F:8E43:2F00:8D0A:29F4:4869:7D8A ( talk · contribs · WHOIS)] who thinks it is racist". Sure, in a world of pure logic where intentions and meaning are explicit and one-dimensional, that would be the case. I think it's safe to assume that humans don't operate in this simple paradigm. Though, I must add, @ 2A02:C7F:8E43:2F00:8D0A:29F4:4869:7D8A:, your usage of "him/her" refuses to acknowledge those who do not fall within the gender binary. Airplaneman ✈ 02:09, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
Since I was asked, I feel that "Wash Whites Separately" carries the implication that white people should be afforded superior showering facilities, while everyone else (myself included) gets the second-rate areas.
"your usage of 'him/her' refuses to acknowledge those who do not fall within the gender binary"
Seriously? Rejection of the "gender binary" is a concept. That people have visibly different skin colours, with many going through hell because they have the "wrong" one, is cold, brutal reality.
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07:00, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
Why are you removing wikilinks from all these pagers. It is not an improvement. Rmhermen ( talk) 03:06, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
Greetings. Per this, I realise it's slightly crude that both terms link to the same article, but they're there for a reason, and I have yet to see a WP guideline stating that pipe links to identical destinations aren't allowed. The English and British titles both come under the British Boxing Board of Control, hence the links to that article. If a reader fails to understand why the destination is the same, then that cannot be helped unless you have a better idea on how to handle it. It certainly cannot be considered overlinking—neither England nor Britain are being linked to in this case. Mac Dreamstate ( talk) 04:28, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
Edit summaries please! If you don't, I will be forced to bomb your userpage with a sea of smileys. Do not go there. Such a vast amount of yellow may damage your corneas! Here's a taste to show you that I'm serious:
Edit summaries please!
Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 00:43, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
Hello. A renamer or clerk has responded to your username change request, but requires clarification before moving forward. Please follow up at your username change request entry as soon as possible. Thank you. — k6ka 🍁 ( Talk · Contributions) 11:57, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
Hi Sleeping, I accept your points at Bob Perelman about birthplace and overlinking. I still question nationality. American is a commonly understood term, but it seems to me that United States of America is more correct. What is Wikipedia's guidance on this? I don't find it in Template:Infobox person. Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 19:00, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
Your edits made the article unreadable. If you want to contest material, do it, but don't turn the article into a sea of ping. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 06:22, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
Congratulations! You just violated 3RR. Please self-revert or I will report you and you may be blocked from editing. — MShabazz Talk/ Stalk 14:46, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
Your recent editing history at The Birth of a Nation (2016 film) shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. — MShabazz Talk/ Stalk 15:37, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
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