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Lord Sjones23 (
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16:17, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi, Serge. Looks like the indef-blocked user MegaCyanide666 ( talk · contribs) has made what appears to be a disruptive personal attack on Niemti's talk page. I don't want to get involved, but can you please do something about this? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 23:25, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Maybe it should've been an AfD, not a PROD, but it was hardly a "terrible call" - album is unreleased, the majority of the sources appear to be about the band, not the album anyway. Lukeno94 (talk) 12:10, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
You might want to take a look at WP:WRONGVERSION before you make an edit after protecting a page in the future. Just an FYI. -- Izno ( talk) 21:03, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
The point I'm making is that you shouldn't edit something you've just protected (forbidding gross vandalism or BLP issues, naturally), as that can be seen as an abuse of admin powers. In other words, to go along with the essay, you also shouldn't pick the "right version" to protect. If there's a content dispute or edit war, you lock the page down, leave a note on the talk page for people to sort it out, and go along your merry way. And you naturally should avoid taking a side in that same content dispute (if you do decide to stick around).
I'm just trying to make your ride less bumpy for the future, when you end up protecting and then editing through protection on a page where there are people who actually care. :) -- Izno ( talk) 21:28, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi. Can you please take a look at the differences here, here, here and here? I've been trying to minimize contact with Niemti, but apparently he's going around badmouthing me to regular established editors by calling me a "stalker" (I think that its only stalking if the edits are not done in good faith) and accusing me of "lying", which I never have and is considered a blatant personal attack. And that was after I posted on the WP:RSN and supported what Fladrif said. Also, to clarify, since editing on behalf of another editor is called meatpuppetry and can lead to a block, I am trying not to recruit meat puppets nor am I a sockpuppet. What a piece of work... Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 19:07, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi Sergecross. I thought this to be rather extreme; as it isn't that frequently edited and hasn't been vandalized much (if at all; the worst seems to be just edits against consensus). I'm not sure about this (I have no experience with templates generally), but I think generally navboxes aren't fully protected; there are many more navboxes that I would consider to be more "highrisk" than this (examples being here and here) which are not. Thanks. Satellizer el Bridget (Talk) 08:07, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
The user Gaming&Computing has removed a large portion of the ad-drivel, but I still believe GNG is not met. If you still support your initial !vote, please reiterate your support on the Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Oton page. Thanks! - Kai445 ( talk) 22:56, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
FYI, Fladrif has proposed a ban on Niemti at at his RFC. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 00:46, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I have been meaning to clean that article up, although I'm unsure how much time ill have for editing the rest of the weekend. I will help though eventually, when I can. It's a good idea for a new focus though, definitely. Sergecross73 msg me 16:47, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
Hey man. Remember
Ludwig von Decker (
talk ·
contribs) being a sock of
Larry Decker (
talk ·
contribs), who in turn is a sock of
Mason Decker (
talk ·
contribs)? Yeah, looks like
Mason Decker1 (
talk ·
contribs) and
Mason Lee Decker-Brant (
talk ·
contribs) have arrived. Their behavior is pretty much identical to past socks of Mason, and well...
Looks like a duck to me
Zappa
O
Mati
23:06, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
The argument you are making for not removing the 'Hiatus' tag from Breaking Benjamin can be used in the same way against why you are wanting to keep it in the first place. To quote you:
"Please stop doing this unless you've got a reliable source stating they have officially broken up. You can't just deem them broken up because you haven't heard any updates from them in a while, that's called original research."
In this same vein, you can't deem them 'together' when the band is a two-member team and the latest anyone has heard is a heresay interview from an unaccredited 3rd party website. The latest, in fact, is that Ben Burnley has been writing songs for other bands:
https://twitter.com/MikeStreer/status/292073374539186176
The box on Wikipedia clearly says "years active." The years they were active ENDED in 2010. In the same way you can say "unless there's official word they've broken up, they're still together," I can say "Unless there's official word they're together, then they've broken up."
Further evidence:
http://www.ace show biz.com/news/view/00042590.html (sans the spaces)
The title of the article is "BREAKING BENJAMIN SPLITS..." So if "Hard Rock Haven" is considered a reliable source, then this site is as well. The first lines of the article are: "Breaking Benjamin, who are currently in hiatus, have broken up"
Thanks, -- Vemnox ( talk) 20:03, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
I guess you're right, I'm sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kbra ( talk • contribs) 18:14, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Ok, I have a doubt, do you think it would be a good idea to make a separate category for the awards in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kbra ( talk • contribs) 21:42, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Ok thank you then, yeah Xenoblade has got plenty of awards year after year in the places it has been released, so I will add it, thank you, sorry if I have bothered you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kbra ( talk • contribs) 21:59, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
It's a very good thing to let me know that I might have gone a little too far, as Wikipedia is a collaborative encyclopedia. :-) Fortunately, while I can find some sources for Sonic Shuffle including quotes from the game itself, I've asked ThomasO1989 if he has any magazines or articles in mind for this article, Sonic Adventure and Sonic Adventure 2. I was wondering if you have any sources as well. If so, I think we should post these on the talk page. Thoughts? Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 00:41, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
Also, I've posted an announcement on my talk page in case if you or anyone else is willing to read it. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 19:17, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
It would be great if you at least replied once to the discussion per BRD? Lucia Black ( talk) 03:19, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
You've left discussions before and I usually end up empty handed (meaning, my editing philosophy never changes because no one attempts to update it with the current debates im involved in). Hence my progress in wikipedia has been halted. Lucia Black ( talk) 11:08, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
My goal is to get at least 1 GA. Letting go, meant giving up on previous high potential articles.. i think letting go affected me worst to the point where i need a good answer. Not a half baked one. Stick man got offended by my vanilla responces before. It happens, and i did it intentionally to show its not me. It just happens that im the only one adressing it. But beside the point. Ive let go more than you can imagine. Lucia Black ( talk) 13:28, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
I've already posted this on Salvidrim's page, but since there's no response as of yet, I just want to inform you of something that may require your attention as an administrator: 76.120.178.220 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log), whom I suspect to be a sockpuppet of Fragments of Jade ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) (who has been banned by the community for her abusive sock puppetry), is on the loose. Same interests (i.e. Earl Cain, Professor Layton), same addition of speculation, same geographical location (Pennsylvania), same attitude. Isn't it time to give this IP a long block? Also, should we use file an abuse response or use an edit filter if possible? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 23:30, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Hey, would you mind helping out at Talk:Super Mario All-Stars? A user is insisting on including a list of differences between the game and its NES versions, but I don't consider many of the differences to be notable and it goes against WP:TRIVIA, WP:GUIDE, and WP:FANCRUFT. He's not budging on the subject until more people give their opinion and I don't want to get into an Edit War. -- ThomasO1989 ( talk) 14:11, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
I know most of our interactions have been @ 8th gen, I was wondering though if you could help me with a double-move? Rutgers-Newark to Rutgers–Newark (from hyphen to en-dash). There's no opposition on the talkpage to moving it back, and it used to be there (but things got moved during an editor argument, which has since been resolved). It is also consistant (the Camden and New Brunswick articles both are titled in such a way), and correct (Rutgers Style Guide says to do it). Thank you! (Or if not I can put it on RM, I just figured I remembered you were an admin and might be willing to do it). - Kai445 ( talk) 00:51, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
Although I wasn't please with the outcome, I sincerely appreciate your advice on Talk:Super Mario All-Stars. I'm glad I was able to come to a peaceful conclusion as opposed to an "edit war". I love video games, but I hate when people fight over what is posted. glad to move on. NintendoFan ( Talk, Contribs) 07:44, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi Sergecross. Could you please delete the categories created by this user, as editors have already determined the WikiProject to be unnecessary due to the existence of the Grand Theft Auto task force. Thanks! ~ Satellizer el Bridget ~ (Talk) 22:56, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Template talk:Bullying#This reversion.
Lord Sjones23 (
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22:22, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
I listed a source for him to add as I was in a hurry. I kinda just get on sometimes to check my messages then leave. But I provided a source and the info wasnt challenged, he removed it because of no source despite me telling him where I found it many times. He even said himself that it was true so he wasnt challenging anything, just removing it. BlackDragon 00:02, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
Yeah but I gave an address just to show him so he would stop removing it. And you know im not the only one you can provide a link for it. I might some other time but for now its about every post on their page. BlackDragon 18:41, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
Because I didnt have a link at the time besides its home page and didnt have time to find a proper one and I also am not sure how to add a ref without checking out the other refs first to see what to put. So thats why I just gave a link. And again "your source", "you", The main link is directly at the top of the other one and besides im the only editor in like the past week at least on that page. And most people wont bother if they just "see" a ref. So they are still heavily promoting it and its probably on their website so If it wont work in a month then you or someone could also add another ref. BlackDragon 02:11, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
There seems to be concerns about the article's sources. I am using the instruction manual as sources for the gameplay and plot section, as well as the quotes from the game itself. I was wondering if you, Salvidrim or ThomasO1989 have any sources that would be beneficial to the article as a whole? Also, keep in mind I have an exceptionally low tolerance for uncalled for disrespect or venomous comments over trivial matters about me or unfounded allegations of my behavior without clear evidence, as well as contentious disputes that can be easily settled at different talk pages. That's why I ignore detractors and users that are what I believe to be trolling me or who show disrespect over my shortcomings (which are fairly small), as well as those who drag up past problems that have nothing to do with situations at the present as well as contentious confrontations. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 06:50, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi Sergecross73. I've seen that you created a lot of articles, including Device (band). I didn't know that. Can you also create articles for Taketora and Masanori Shinohara ( Akuma's and Kazuya Mishima's voice actors).Articles for them doesn't exist, but it should. I would be very thankful to you if only you could do that ( if that's not problem to you). If you can do that, message me please. Thanks, DisturbedAsylum — Preceding unsigned comment added by Disturbedasylum ( talk • contribs) 07:39, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
When you said that you write articles about video games, does that mean that you also write articles about video game characters? -- DisturbedAsylum ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:08, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
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Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#Possible ban discussion on Niemti?.
Lord Sjones23 (
talk -
contributions)
16:17, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi, Serge. Looks like the indef-blocked user MegaCyanide666 ( talk · contribs) has made what appears to be a disruptive personal attack on Niemti's talk page. I don't want to get involved, but can you please do something about this? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 23:25, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Maybe it should've been an AfD, not a PROD, but it was hardly a "terrible call" - album is unreleased, the majority of the sources appear to be about the band, not the album anyway. Lukeno94 (talk) 12:10, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
You might want to take a look at WP:WRONGVERSION before you make an edit after protecting a page in the future. Just an FYI. -- Izno ( talk) 21:03, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
The point I'm making is that you shouldn't edit something you've just protected (forbidding gross vandalism or BLP issues, naturally), as that can be seen as an abuse of admin powers. In other words, to go along with the essay, you also shouldn't pick the "right version" to protect. If there's a content dispute or edit war, you lock the page down, leave a note on the talk page for people to sort it out, and go along your merry way. And you naturally should avoid taking a side in that same content dispute (if you do decide to stick around).
I'm just trying to make your ride less bumpy for the future, when you end up protecting and then editing through protection on a page where there are people who actually care. :) -- Izno ( talk) 21:28, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi. Can you please take a look at the differences here, here, here and here? I've been trying to minimize contact with Niemti, but apparently he's going around badmouthing me to regular established editors by calling me a "stalker" (I think that its only stalking if the edits are not done in good faith) and accusing me of "lying", which I never have and is considered a blatant personal attack. And that was after I posted on the WP:RSN and supported what Fladrif said. Also, to clarify, since editing on behalf of another editor is called meatpuppetry and can lead to a block, I am trying not to recruit meat puppets nor am I a sockpuppet. What a piece of work... Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 19:07, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi Sergecross. I thought this to be rather extreme; as it isn't that frequently edited and hasn't been vandalized much (if at all; the worst seems to be just edits against consensus). I'm not sure about this (I have no experience with templates generally), but I think generally navboxes aren't fully protected; there are many more navboxes that I would consider to be more "highrisk" than this (examples being here and here) which are not. Thanks. Satellizer el Bridget (Talk) 08:07, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
The user Gaming&Computing has removed a large portion of the ad-drivel, but I still believe GNG is not met. If you still support your initial !vote, please reiterate your support on the Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Oton page. Thanks! - Kai445 ( talk) 22:56, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
FYI, Fladrif has proposed a ban on Niemti at at his RFC. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 00:46, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I have been meaning to clean that article up, although I'm unsure how much time ill have for editing the rest of the weekend. I will help though eventually, when I can. It's a good idea for a new focus though, definitely. Sergecross73 msg me 16:47, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
Hey man. Remember
Ludwig von Decker (
talk ·
contribs) being a sock of
Larry Decker (
talk ·
contribs), who in turn is a sock of
Mason Decker (
talk ·
contribs)? Yeah, looks like
Mason Decker1 (
talk ·
contribs) and
Mason Lee Decker-Brant (
talk ·
contribs) have arrived. Their behavior is pretty much identical to past socks of Mason, and well...
Looks like a duck to me
Zappa
O
Mati
23:06, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
The argument you are making for not removing the 'Hiatus' tag from Breaking Benjamin can be used in the same way against why you are wanting to keep it in the first place. To quote you:
"Please stop doing this unless you've got a reliable source stating they have officially broken up. You can't just deem them broken up because you haven't heard any updates from them in a while, that's called original research."
In this same vein, you can't deem them 'together' when the band is a two-member team and the latest anyone has heard is a heresay interview from an unaccredited 3rd party website. The latest, in fact, is that Ben Burnley has been writing songs for other bands:
https://twitter.com/MikeStreer/status/292073374539186176
The box on Wikipedia clearly says "years active." The years they were active ENDED in 2010. In the same way you can say "unless there's official word they've broken up, they're still together," I can say "Unless there's official word they're together, then they've broken up."
Further evidence:
http://www.ace show biz.com/news/view/00042590.html (sans the spaces)
The title of the article is "BREAKING BENJAMIN SPLITS..." So if "Hard Rock Haven" is considered a reliable source, then this site is as well. The first lines of the article are: "Breaking Benjamin, who are currently in hiatus, have broken up"
Thanks, -- Vemnox ( talk) 20:03, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
I guess you're right, I'm sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kbra ( talk • contribs) 18:14, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Ok, I have a doubt, do you think it would be a good idea to make a separate category for the awards in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kbra ( talk • contribs) 21:42, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Ok thank you then, yeah Xenoblade has got plenty of awards year after year in the places it has been released, so I will add it, thank you, sorry if I have bothered you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kbra ( talk • contribs) 21:59, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
It's a very good thing to let me know that I might have gone a little too far, as Wikipedia is a collaborative encyclopedia. :-) Fortunately, while I can find some sources for Sonic Shuffle including quotes from the game itself, I've asked ThomasO1989 if he has any magazines or articles in mind for this article, Sonic Adventure and Sonic Adventure 2. I was wondering if you have any sources as well. If so, I think we should post these on the talk page. Thoughts? Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 00:41, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
Also, I've posted an announcement on my talk page in case if you or anyone else is willing to read it. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 19:17, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
It would be great if you at least replied once to the discussion per BRD? Lucia Black ( talk) 03:19, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
You've left discussions before and I usually end up empty handed (meaning, my editing philosophy never changes because no one attempts to update it with the current debates im involved in). Hence my progress in wikipedia has been halted. Lucia Black ( talk) 11:08, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
My goal is to get at least 1 GA. Letting go, meant giving up on previous high potential articles.. i think letting go affected me worst to the point where i need a good answer. Not a half baked one. Stick man got offended by my vanilla responces before. It happens, and i did it intentionally to show its not me. It just happens that im the only one adressing it. But beside the point. Ive let go more than you can imagine. Lucia Black ( talk) 13:28, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
I've already posted this on Salvidrim's page, but since there's no response as of yet, I just want to inform you of something that may require your attention as an administrator: 76.120.178.220 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log), whom I suspect to be a sockpuppet of Fragments of Jade ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) (who has been banned by the community for her abusive sock puppetry), is on the loose. Same interests (i.e. Earl Cain, Professor Layton), same addition of speculation, same geographical location (Pennsylvania), same attitude. Isn't it time to give this IP a long block? Also, should we use file an abuse response or use an edit filter if possible? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 23:30, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Hey, would you mind helping out at Talk:Super Mario All-Stars? A user is insisting on including a list of differences between the game and its NES versions, but I don't consider many of the differences to be notable and it goes against WP:TRIVIA, WP:GUIDE, and WP:FANCRUFT. He's not budging on the subject until more people give their opinion and I don't want to get into an Edit War. -- ThomasO1989 ( talk) 14:11, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
I know most of our interactions have been @ 8th gen, I was wondering though if you could help me with a double-move? Rutgers-Newark to Rutgers–Newark (from hyphen to en-dash). There's no opposition on the talkpage to moving it back, and it used to be there (but things got moved during an editor argument, which has since been resolved). It is also consistant (the Camden and New Brunswick articles both are titled in such a way), and correct (Rutgers Style Guide says to do it). Thank you! (Or if not I can put it on RM, I just figured I remembered you were an admin and might be willing to do it). - Kai445 ( talk) 00:51, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
Although I wasn't please with the outcome, I sincerely appreciate your advice on Talk:Super Mario All-Stars. I'm glad I was able to come to a peaceful conclusion as opposed to an "edit war". I love video games, but I hate when people fight over what is posted. glad to move on. NintendoFan ( Talk, Contribs) 07:44, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi Sergecross. Could you please delete the categories created by this user, as editors have already determined the WikiProject to be unnecessary due to the existence of the Grand Theft Auto task force. Thanks! ~ Satellizer el Bridget ~ (Talk) 22:56, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Template talk:Bullying#This reversion.
Lord Sjones23 (
talk -
contributions)
22:22, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
I listed a source for him to add as I was in a hurry. I kinda just get on sometimes to check my messages then leave. But I provided a source and the info wasnt challenged, he removed it because of no source despite me telling him where I found it many times. He even said himself that it was true so he wasnt challenging anything, just removing it. BlackDragon 00:02, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
Yeah but I gave an address just to show him so he would stop removing it. And you know im not the only one you can provide a link for it. I might some other time but for now its about every post on their page. BlackDragon 18:41, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
Because I didnt have a link at the time besides its home page and didnt have time to find a proper one and I also am not sure how to add a ref without checking out the other refs first to see what to put. So thats why I just gave a link. And again "your source", "you", The main link is directly at the top of the other one and besides im the only editor in like the past week at least on that page. And most people wont bother if they just "see" a ref. So they are still heavily promoting it and its probably on their website so If it wont work in a month then you or someone could also add another ref. BlackDragon 02:11, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
There seems to be concerns about the article's sources. I am using the instruction manual as sources for the gameplay and plot section, as well as the quotes from the game itself. I was wondering if you, Salvidrim or ThomasO1989 have any sources that would be beneficial to the article as a whole? Also, keep in mind I have an exceptionally low tolerance for uncalled for disrespect or venomous comments over trivial matters about me or unfounded allegations of my behavior without clear evidence, as well as contentious disputes that can be easily settled at different talk pages. That's why I ignore detractors and users that are what I believe to be trolling me or who show disrespect over my shortcomings (which are fairly small), as well as those who drag up past problems that have nothing to do with situations at the present as well as contentious confrontations. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 06:50, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi Sergecross73. I've seen that you created a lot of articles, including Device (band). I didn't know that. Can you also create articles for Taketora and Masanori Shinohara ( Akuma's and Kazuya Mishima's voice actors).Articles for them doesn't exist, but it should. I would be very thankful to you if only you could do that ( if that's not problem to you). If you can do that, message me please. Thanks, DisturbedAsylum — Preceding unsigned comment added by Disturbedasylum ( talk • contribs) 07:39, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
When you said that you write articles about video games, does that mean that you also write articles about video game characters? -- DisturbedAsylum ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:08, 24 April 2013 (UTC)