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For rewriting John Calvin with excellence in both style and content. -- Flex ( talk/ contribs) 16:39, 14 January 2009 (UTC) |
Over on my talk page, you mentioned "I just wish I can write better the *first* time. I guess I have to keep practising." If you want, I can go through the Calvin article and make a list of problems that recur in your writing. That way, you will know what to watch out for. I know, for example, that I am a verbose writer and I am constantly on guard against that. If you already know your personal writing demons, we can move on to the next step. Awadewit ( talk) 02:40, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your support and help in getting Mozart in Italy to Featured status. I appreciate your help in the effort to expand the encyclopeadia's featured classical music content. My next music project, for later this year, is likely to be List of operas by Richard Wagner, including not only those we know all about, but his many aborted projects, too. Brianboulton ( talk) 11:12, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
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If you would like to see Joseph W. Tkach appear on the main page at WP:TFA, I would head over to WP:TFAR and learn the roles over there. His birthday is a good day to nominate him for.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 05:16, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
I have been dealing with some of the red links in the Calvin article ( Nicolas Cop, Loci Communes, Edict of Coucy, etc.). AFAICT, Philibert Berthelier the younger is not an important historical figure and has near-zero hope of actually getting a WP page. Hence, I propose we unlink his name, move his father's article back to Philibert Berthelier, and make a brief mention of his son in that article. What do you say? -- Flex ( talk/ contribs) 16:46, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Can you do me a major favor and look over Hilary and see what context is missing? He's lining up for his run at FAC and I *think* I caught all the context, but I'm not sure, so need some help spotting things that aren't explained well. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
I've reviewed the article and left notes on the talk page. I've put the nomination on hold for seven days to allow the issues to be addressed. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, here, or on the article talk page with any concerns, and let me know one of those places when the issues have been addressed. If I may suggest that you strike out, check mark, or otherwise mark the items I've detailed, that will make it possible for me to see what's been addressed, and you can keep track of what's been done and what still needs to be worked on. Ealdgyth - Talk 03:30, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your note; I have modified the assessment to "high", which seems fair enough. On fr.wikipedia.org, the assessment is "top"; de.wikipedia.org does not seem to use such a scale on the discussion page, but I doubt anyone can pretend that the subject "fills in more minor details", as indicated by the importance scale of Wikipedia 1.0. Cheers, Schutz ( talk) 09:40, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
I think you know my feeling about the article, which is that it will always be vulnerable to the ocasional earthquake and the consequent damage. I watch the article because Luther is seminal to the historical period I'm interested in, but I actually find Luther a baneful character and become depressed if I spend too much time in his company. I also do not enjoy reading the more theological books about Luther, partly because I haven't the skills to tell what is objective analysis and what is "Lutheran" scholarship. However, I'm probably too timorous; and your track record makes you well qualified to attempt the task, if, as I sense, you'd really like to.
I have some biographies, such as Oberman, Brecht, Bainton, but I must say that I haven't found one that convinced me (they all seem strikingly badly written to me). I'm willing to be a sounding board if you undertake this task. If you do, I'd strongly advise you to get User:Slim Virgin onside in advance. She is an exceptionally good content editor (see Rudolf Vrba, which she wrote with User:Jayjg, in my opinion one of the best articles on Wikipedia). If you explain to her what you propose to do and how, I'm sure we could avoid the opposed camps problem the article sometimes fell into in the past. In other words, if there are to be thrashings out about interpretation and due weight, better they take place in a managed process of overhauling the article rather than randomly. qp10qp ( talk) 16:07, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
I think one reason I didn't, apart from a few comments on the talk page, get into the RCC FACs was because it looked to me like I'd be walking into a swamp. Clearly Nancy was going to demand references from those she disagreed with, and those who complied were suddenly spending hours and days looking things up to justify their points. To ask all commentators to bring references would, in my opinion, probably kill the FAC process. I think the answer is for the nominator to be sprightly. There are ways of accommodating requests and criticisms while retaining the information one wants. Some people, including myself, deprecated certain sources used: these people could have been satisfied by the tactic of re-reffing the same information to sources they recognised.
I do not think the problem is the FAC system but the nature of religious articles. I've been busy today just fighting fires at Martin Luther, which is not even anywhere near being a Good Article. Lutherans come to the article with certain presuppositions, as do Catholics to Catholicism articles, and the result, when they are challenged, can be genuine incomprehension. But what can we do with references to such sources as The Lutheran Witness? It counts as a reliable source, unfortunately, and it is often used for citations, even though for me it is seriously problematic. For example, it was used to cite the idea that Luther had kind words for the Jews at the end of his life; but the Lutheran Witness article took one sentence out of context and did not tell the readers about the vitriol that surrounded it in the original sermon.
Even well-recognised academic sources can often be problematic. Many of them are written by Luther scholars who take certain premises for granted that Wikipedia shouldn't. I was reading a highly respected book on Lutheran theology yesterday, and it routinely included sentences like "when Luther discovered the true meaning of 'the justice of God'": the author clearly took it for granted that Luther had established the truth with his theology, which Lutherans take as canonical, not that his doctrine was yet one more in the long doctrinal history of Christianity. Yet I'd be laughed out of court if I tried to suggest that Luther's Theology of the Cross by Alister McGrath was in any way a doubtful source—on the contrary, it is seminal.
The history of Luther's life is easy to establish, and the article is good on that; the problem comes with the history of his doctrinal breakthroughs, for which one has to move away from history books, and which no one seems to agree on. There the problem begins: how do I know what is objective commentary? The overlap between theology and history faculties is already an area of contention in many universities. Even the Cambridge Companion has a majority of articles by scholars at Lutheran institutions. When one looks into Lutheran Confessions, including very modern restatements of them, one finds it is part of the Lutheran religion (not just a historical curiosity) that the pope is the antichrist. So, do these scholars believe that? As a non Lutheran and non Catholic, I am bewildered by such a term of reference. If a key point of Luther's theology was that the pope is not mentioned in the bible and not empowered by the keys of St Peter, then how could Luther call him the antichrist, by reference to Revelation? Religion is just a tough subject to be factual about or even to establish the reliable sources for, given Wikipedia's policies. qp10qp ( talk) 14:44, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Please see my comment - the unreliable online ref has been mostly retired. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 22:52, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Will look at it this evening. Brianboulton ( talk) 17:04, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
(Later): I have read the first few sections. On my private prose crapometer, which runs from 0 (perfection) to 10 (irredeemable shite), I reckon this article to be around 3.5, which is better than most Wikipedia aricles but a bit too high for FA. Here are just a few examples of things that need attention:-
So although I wouldn't use the same robust terms as your FAC reviewer I'd say yes, the prose could do with a general copyedit. And in answer to your forthcoming question, I'll do it, but it may take a few days as it is quite a long article. Let me know if you want me to go ahead. Brianboulton ( talk) 21:34, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
OK, I have finished my copyediting work. I have several concerns:-
You would be well advised to read through and make certain that I have not changed or corrupted the meanings through over-enthusiastic copyedits. Please feel free to revert anything which you don't like. Brianboulton ( talk) 17:10, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
How is it coming? Do you need someone with reasonably fresh eyes to look it over? I probably will have a few hours later today if you need some help... (have to go get horse food and file some paperwork at the school for the child, but otherwise my early afternoon probably will be free enough) Ealdgyth - Talk 14:17, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
You previously have commented on the RfC at Talk:Joseph_Priestley#RfC on lead image alignment on whether or not the lead image should be left-aligned. A straw poll is under way to determine what, if any consensus have been developed towards resolving the debate. Go to Talk:Joseph_Priestley#Major_options and indicate your relative levels of support for each option. Thank you. Madcoverboy ( talk) 17:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
"Cranmer was tried for treason and heresy when Roman Catholic monarch Mary I came to the throne" is less idiomatic than "Cranmer was tried for treason and heresy when the Roman Catholic Mary I came to the throne". The word "monarch" is of no use when we know that she was a queen. The absence of a definite article is journalese. "Cranmer was tried for treason and heresy when Mary I, a Roman Catholic, came to the throne" would work as well. Don't think the facts are in dispute, or the characterisation, it is only the diction. — Srnec ( talk) 20:40, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
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Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:37, 24 December 2009 (UTC) |
Thank you for catching the blunder in my reference to Thomas Cranmer as a Nicodemite. Here is the reference I meant to supply:
Quoting from p. 207:
“ | Our history has been interlaced with Nicodemite themes and anguished personal dilemmas: Vermigli in Lucca; Ochino on the road to Mantua; Pole at Viterbo; later Russell, Bradford, Castiglione and Cheke imprisoned in Marian London; last, Thomas Cranmer's agonised recantations in Oxford. | ” |
It is not disputed that Cramer was both a humanist and a serial recanter. From the point of view of Anglican martyrology he clearly redeemed himself beyond any taint of hypocrisy by his comportment surrounding his martyrdom. Perhaps, however, from the Catholic point of view, Nicodemite is not too inappropriate an epithet, since it the term can cut both ways.
If such characterization is really out in left field, then his name must be stricken from the "suspected" list in the article Nicodemite as well. Or, I can repair both references. But I am out of my depth to take the matter much further. Perhaps an expert such as yourself should adopt that article.
I noticed you removed my mention of the Luther book article in the beginning of the Zwingli article. The reason I put in the beginning was because the relevant section article lacks discussion of the early part of the controversy. Perhaps you could add it in some way? As for myself, I'm not exactly sure how it fits. The end of the Luther book article summarizes Zwingli's response to Luther in several response writings.-- Epiphyllumlover ( talk) 00:09, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
You commented on the recent sweeping changes to the article. My critique of them and an alternate suggestion is linked at Talk:Catholic_Church#Recent_Major_and_Substantive_Changes_to_this_Article Xan dar 14:03, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
I made several comments regarding the sections on John Calvin and the issues concerning democracy and the American form of government. I am not a registered user, and the page is still protected. I have laid out a detailed case for my reasoning. I would appreciate your thoughts. I don't think the article is balanced when it simply states that John Calvin had a "particular" impact upon the American form of government. There are historians who disagree (which I cite) that I believe are more influential and significant than a modern day Tennessee preacher who may or may not have a political agenda. I think the problem is that people are confusing Calvinist work ethic among the later generations of his followers with John Calvin the man. I don't think its intellectually honest to say John Calvin particularly impacted the American form of government. John Knox had as great, if not greater, impact upon it. The sources indicate that Calvinists went on in a direction that were not necessarily indicative of John Calvin's own teachings. Please look at the Discussion PAge for John Calvin again for much more detail. Please respond on the Discussion page for John Calvin. Thank you Oghmatist ( talk) 03:48, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
You have repeatedly reverted my edits wholesale on the Thomas Cranmer article. They were made according to WP:ATTRIBUTEPOV as explained by me on the article's talk page. You do not contest the factual nature of my edits. You commanded me to "stop this" [2] and not to edit the article without your agreement on the talk page. [3] This is ownership behavior. In my last edit I took into account your complaints about what you call the anachronistic use of the word Anglican into account and used Protestant instead and deleted the reference to the papacy which you contested. Your response was once again to revert my edit wholesale. This is edit warring. You are dangerously close to violating WP:3RR. If this wholesale reversion continues it will be reported to admin. Wrotesolid ( talk) 16:57, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for your recent help with the Lutheranism article.-- Epiphyllumlover ( talk) 14:46, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
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For rewriting John Calvin with excellence in both style and content. -- Flex ( talk/ contribs) 16:39, 14 January 2009 (UTC) |
Over on my talk page, you mentioned "I just wish I can write better the *first* time. I guess I have to keep practising." If you want, I can go through the Calvin article and make a list of problems that recur in your writing. That way, you will know what to watch out for. I know, for example, that I am a verbose writer and I am constantly on guard against that. If you already know your personal writing demons, we can move on to the next step. Awadewit ( talk) 02:40, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your support and help in getting Mozart in Italy to Featured status. I appreciate your help in the effort to expand the encyclopeadia's featured classical music content. My next music project, for later this year, is likely to be List of operas by Richard Wagner, including not only those we know all about, but his many aborted projects, too. Brianboulton ( talk) 11:12, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
Please comment on this debate here. We are attempting establish a consensus on wide, vertical nav boxs. -- Secisek ( talk) 19:34, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
If you would like to see Joseph W. Tkach appear on the main page at WP:TFA, I would head over to WP:TFAR and learn the roles over there. His birthday is a good day to nominate him for.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 05:16, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
I have been dealing with some of the red links in the Calvin article ( Nicolas Cop, Loci Communes, Edict of Coucy, etc.). AFAICT, Philibert Berthelier the younger is not an important historical figure and has near-zero hope of actually getting a WP page. Hence, I propose we unlink his name, move his father's article back to Philibert Berthelier, and make a brief mention of his son in that article. What do you say? -- Flex ( talk/ contribs) 16:46, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Can you do me a major favor and look over Hilary and see what context is missing? He's lining up for his run at FAC and I *think* I caught all the context, but I'm not sure, so need some help spotting things that aren't explained well. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
I've reviewed the article and left notes on the talk page. I've put the nomination on hold for seven days to allow the issues to be addressed. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, here, or on the article talk page with any concerns, and let me know one of those places when the issues have been addressed. If I may suggest that you strike out, check mark, or otherwise mark the items I've detailed, that will make it possible for me to see what's been addressed, and you can keep track of what's been done and what still needs to be worked on. Ealdgyth - Talk 03:30, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your note; I have modified the assessment to "high", which seems fair enough. On fr.wikipedia.org, the assessment is "top"; de.wikipedia.org does not seem to use such a scale on the discussion page, but I doubt anyone can pretend that the subject "fills in more minor details", as indicated by the importance scale of Wikipedia 1.0. Cheers, Schutz ( talk) 09:40, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
I think you know my feeling about the article, which is that it will always be vulnerable to the ocasional earthquake and the consequent damage. I watch the article because Luther is seminal to the historical period I'm interested in, but I actually find Luther a baneful character and become depressed if I spend too much time in his company. I also do not enjoy reading the more theological books about Luther, partly because I haven't the skills to tell what is objective analysis and what is "Lutheran" scholarship. However, I'm probably too timorous; and your track record makes you well qualified to attempt the task, if, as I sense, you'd really like to.
I have some biographies, such as Oberman, Brecht, Bainton, but I must say that I haven't found one that convinced me (they all seem strikingly badly written to me). I'm willing to be a sounding board if you undertake this task. If you do, I'd strongly advise you to get User:Slim Virgin onside in advance. She is an exceptionally good content editor (see Rudolf Vrba, which she wrote with User:Jayjg, in my opinion one of the best articles on Wikipedia). If you explain to her what you propose to do and how, I'm sure we could avoid the opposed camps problem the article sometimes fell into in the past. In other words, if there are to be thrashings out about interpretation and due weight, better they take place in a managed process of overhauling the article rather than randomly. qp10qp ( talk) 16:07, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
I think one reason I didn't, apart from a few comments on the talk page, get into the RCC FACs was because it looked to me like I'd be walking into a swamp. Clearly Nancy was going to demand references from those she disagreed with, and those who complied were suddenly spending hours and days looking things up to justify their points. To ask all commentators to bring references would, in my opinion, probably kill the FAC process. I think the answer is for the nominator to be sprightly. There are ways of accommodating requests and criticisms while retaining the information one wants. Some people, including myself, deprecated certain sources used: these people could have been satisfied by the tactic of re-reffing the same information to sources they recognised.
I do not think the problem is the FAC system but the nature of religious articles. I've been busy today just fighting fires at Martin Luther, which is not even anywhere near being a Good Article. Lutherans come to the article with certain presuppositions, as do Catholics to Catholicism articles, and the result, when they are challenged, can be genuine incomprehension. But what can we do with references to such sources as The Lutheran Witness? It counts as a reliable source, unfortunately, and it is often used for citations, even though for me it is seriously problematic. For example, it was used to cite the idea that Luther had kind words for the Jews at the end of his life; but the Lutheran Witness article took one sentence out of context and did not tell the readers about the vitriol that surrounded it in the original sermon.
Even well-recognised academic sources can often be problematic. Many of them are written by Luther scholars who take certain premises for granted that Wikipedia shouldn't. I was reading a highly respected book on Lutheran theology yesterday, and it routinely included sentences like "when Luther discovered the true meaning of 'the justice of God'": the author clearly took it for granted that Luther had established the truth with his theology, which Lutherans take as canonical, not that his doctrine was yet one more in the long doctrinal history of Christianity. Yet I'd be laughed out of court if I tried to suggest that Luther's Theology of the Cross by Alister McGrath was in any way a doubtful source—on the contrary, it is seminal.
The history of Luther's life is easy to establish, and the article is good on that; the problem comes with the history of his doctrinal breakthroughs, for which one has to move away from history books, and which no one seems to agree on. There the problem begins: how do I know what is objective commentary? The overlap between theology and history faculties is already an area of contention in many universities. Even the Cambridge Companion has a majority of articles by scholars at Lutheran institutions. When one looks into Lutheran Confessions, including very modern restatements of them, one finds it is part of the Lutheran religion (not just a historical curiosity) that the pope is the antichrist. So, do these scholars believe that? As a non Lutheran and non Catholic, I am bewildered by such a term of reference. If a key point of Luther's theology was that the pope is not mentioned in the bible and not empowered by the keys of St Peter, then how could Luther call him the antichrist, by reference to Revelation? Religion is just a tough subject to be factual about or even to establish the reliable sources for, given Wikipedia's policies. qp10qp ( talk) 14:44, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Please see my comment - the unreliable online ref has been mostly retired. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 22:52, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Will look at it this evening. Brianboulton ( talk) 17:04, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
(Later): I have read the first few sections. On my private prose crapometer, which runs from 0 (perfection) to 10 (irredeemable shite), I reckon this article to be around 3.5, which is better than most Wikipedia aricles but a bit too high for FA. Here are just a few examples of things that need attention:-
So although I wouldn't use the same robust terms as your FAC reviewer I'd say yes, the prose could do with a general copyedit. And in answer to your forthcoming question, I'll do it, but it may take a few days as it is quite a long article. Let me know if you want me to go ahead. Brianboulton ( talk) 21:34, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
OK, I have finished my copyediting work. I have several concerns:-
You would be well advised to read through and make certain that I have not changed or corrupted the meanings through over-enthusiastic copyedits. Please feel free to revert anything which you don't like. Brianboulton ( talk) 17:10, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
How is it coming? Do you need someone with reasonably fresh eyes to look it over? I probably will have a few hours later today if you need some help... (have to go get horse food and file some paperwork at the school for the child, but otherwise my early afternoon probably will be free enough) Ealdgyth - Talk 14:17, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
You previously have commented on the RfC at Talk:Joseph_Priestley#RfC on lead image alignment on whether or not the lead image should be left-aligned. A straw poll is under way to determine what, if any consensus have been developed towards resolving the debate. Go to Talk:Joseph_Priestley#Major_options and indicate your relative levels of support for each option. Thank you. Madcoverboy ( talk) 17:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
"Cranmer was tried for treason and heresy when Roman Catholic monarch Mary I came to the throne" is less idiomatic than "Cranmer was tried for treason and heresy when the Roman Catholic Mary I came to the throne". The word "monarch" is of no use when we know that she was a queen. The absence of a definite article is journalese. "Cranmer was tried for treason and heresy when Mary I, a Roman Catholic, came to the throne" would work as well. Don't think the facts are in dispute, or the characterisation, it is only the diction. — Srnec ( talk) 20:40, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
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Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:37, 24 December 2009 (UTC) |
Thank you for catching the blunder in my reference to Thomas Cranmer as a Nicodemite. Here is the reference I meant to supply:
Quoting from p. 207:
“ | Our history has been interlaced with Nicodemite themes and anguished personal dilemmas: Vermigli in Lucca; Ochino on the road to Mantua; Pole at Viterbo; later Russell, Bradford, Castiglione and Cheke imprisoned in Marian London; last, Thomas Cranmer's agonised recantations in Oxford. | ” |
It is not disputed that Cramer was both a humanist and a serial recanter. From the point of view of Anglican martyrology he clearly redeemed himself beyond any taint of hypocrisy by his comportment surrounding his martyrdom. Perhaps, however, from the Catholic point of view, Nicodemite is not too inappropriate an epithet, since it the term can cut both ways.
If such characterization is really out in left field, then his name must be stricken from the "suspected" list in the article Nicodemite as well. Or, I can repair both references. But I am out of my depth to take the matter much further. Perhaps an expert such as yourself should adopt that article.
I noticed you removed my mention of the Luther book article in the beginning of the Zwingli article. The reason I put in the beginning was because the relevant section article lacks discussion of the early part of the controversy. Perhaps you could add it in some way? As for myself, I'm not exactly sure how it fits. The end of the Luther book article summarizes Zwingli's response to Luther in several response writings.-- Epiphyllumlover ( talk) 00:09, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
You commented on the recent sweeping changes to the article. My critique of them and an alternate suggestion is linked at Talk:Catholic_Church#Recent_Major_and_Substantive_Changes_to_this_Article Xan dar 14:03, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
I made several comments regarding the sections on John Calvin and the issues concerning democracy and the American form of government. I am not a registered user, and the page is still protected. I have laid out a detailed case for my reasoning. I would appreciate your thoughts. I don't think the article is balanced when it simply states that John Calvin had a "particular" impact upon the American form of government. There are historians who disagree (which I cite) that I believe are more influential and significant than a modern day Tennessee preacher who may or may not have a political agenda. I think the problem is that people are confusing Calvinist work ethic among the later generations of his followers with John Calvin the man. I don't think its intellectually honest to say John Calvin particularly impacted the American form of government. John Knox had as great, if not greater, impact upon it. The sources indicate that Calvinists went on in a direction that were not necessarily indicative of John Calvin's own teachings. Please look at the Discussion PAge for John Calvin again for much more detail. Please respond on the Discussion page for John Calvin. Thank you Oghmatist ( talk) 03:48, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
You have repeatedly reverted my edits wholesale on the Thomas Cranmer article. They were made according to WP:ATTRIBUTEPOV as explained by me on the article's talk page. You do not contest the factual nature of my edits. You commanded me to "stop this" [2] and not to edit the article without your agreement on the talk page. [3] This is ownership behavior. In my last edit I took into account your complaints about what you call the anachronistic use of the word Anglican into account and used Protestant instead and deleted the reference to the papacy which you contested. Your response was once again to revert my edit wholesale. This is edit warring. You are dangerously close to violating WP:3RR. If this wholesale reversion continues it will be reported to admin. Wrotesolid ( talk) 16:57, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for your recent help with the Lutheranism article.-- Epiphyllumlover ( talk) 14:46, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi RelHistBuff. Are you interested in being granted rollback rights? It makes dealing with vandalism a little easier. If you think it would be useful for you, let me know and I'll grant the permission. Karanacs ( talk) 14:42, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi RelHistBuff, I've given you rollback rights. You'll now see a new link on your watchlist to rollback edits. By pushing that link you will remove all edits by the most recent editor - until you get to an edit by another person. So, for example, if user A makes a vandalism edit, then user B makes a good edit, then user A makes 2 more bad edits, rollback would get rid of User A's last two edits, but not their first one. Only use it for vandalism, and be careful - the link is really easy to push by mistake! Let me know if you have any questions. Karanacs ( talk) 14:05, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
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Joseph W. Tkach (1927–1995) was an American pastor who was the appointed successor of Herbert W. Armstrong, founder of the Worldwide Church of God. Tkach was ordained as a minister in the church in 1957, and became President and Pastor General of the church upon the death of Armstrong in 1986. Tkach spearheaded a major doctrinal transformation of the Worldwide Church of God, abandoning Armstrong's unconventional doctrines and bringing the church into accord with mainstream evangelical Christianity. Changes included encouraging members to seek proper medical treatment while retaining faith in God as a healer, permitting interracial marriage, and allowing work on the Sabbath. The changes that he implemented stirred much controversy among those who continued to follow Armstrong's theology. Dissenters labeled the changes as heresy and many left to form new church organizations. His son, Joseph Tkach Jr., continued his work and in 1997 the Worldwide Church of God became a member of the National Association of Evangelicals. Within the mainstream Christian community, some have hailed Tkach's reforms, which brought a church from the fringe to orthodoxy, as unprecedented. ( Full article...)
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