Please Note: The charges of "Vandalism" by 'Sparthorse', in the message below, are specious at best. A full discussion of the matter, including a counter-charge that it is 'Sparthorse' who has vandalized my textual revisions to the biography of 'Charles R. Pellegrino', can be found in the 'Talk' section on 'Charles R. Pellegrino page.' ]
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Bori!
00:57, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
Please do not introduce incorrect information into articles, as you did to
Charles R. Pellegrino. Your edits appear to be
vandalism and have been
reverted. If you believe the information you added was correct, please
cite references or sources or discuss the changes on the article's
talk page before making them again. If you would like to experiment, use the
sandbox. Thank you.
Sparthorse (
talk)
07:05, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
You may not have seen this: "Consensus is clear that we cannot claim that Pellegrino has a PhD with the sources we currently have. If Redslider continues to edit against this consensus then a request for comment on user conduct may become necessary. Best regards, Mr. Stradivarius (talk) 7:22 am, Today (UTC+0)" Dougweller ( talk) 14:51, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an
edit war according to the reverts you have made on
Charles R. Pellegrino. Users are expected to
collaborate with others, to avoid editing
disruptively, and to
try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
Please be particularly aware, Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:
If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. SarekOfVulcan (talk) 15:34, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
Malicious use warning - note, consensus does not rule in cases governing malicious attacks on the subject in a BLP. We suggest you carefully read WP:BLP Policy and other WP policy regarding malicious attempts to discredit, defame or impugn the character of a living person. Also note that it appears your comments here are of malicious intent and constitute threats meant to intimidate an editor to abandon pursuing corrective action against editor's who are defaming or otherwise causing harm to the subject of a BLP. This, along with false and unsupportable charges of "vandalism" and other matters may be brought before WP authorities for disciplinary actions against those employing such tactics.
Please Note: If those editors who persist in edit warring by continuously revising or reverting edits made to protect the subject (Charles R. Pellegrino) from malicious and defamatory text, it may be necessary request of WP administration that they be blocked or otherwise barred from editorial access to the BLP of Charles R. Pellegrino. Redslider ( talk) 20:26, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
Where you (and I) should have raised it at the first place. I copied over your post from BLPN to RSN (it's now at both venues) - I don't know why you thought it was deleted. Dougweller ( talk) 06:23, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Doug, I think we've got an 'irreconcilable differences' problem on our hands. Not that I meant it to be so, but expected from the history of the BLP that it would be. In any case, I elected to take the matter to mediation. I have not received a response as yet, but I think that is where a neutral position is to be found, if there is one. I did put your name on the parties list along with the other principles, and I hope you will join in, if and when they elect to take the matter up. That's really all I have to say for now. I'm forgoing further discussion until I hear from them. best to you, red. Redslider ( talk) 06:46, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Please stop adding
unsourced content, as you did to
Charles R. Pellegrino. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on
verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be
blocked from editing Wikipedia.
Nomoskedasticity (
talk)
08:05, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Given the serious doubts that have been raised about the validity of sources and allegations questioning the validity of Dr Pellegrino's degree; and the new evidence and reliable sources that indicate those allegations to be false; and, given the discussions that have been opened in Talk, BLPN, RSN, et. al. and that mediation has been requested, the revisions that were made to normalize his degree status are quite in order. The inclusion of Pellegrino's degree does not require any further sourcing, verifiability or treatment different from the those in numerous other Wikipedia BPLs. I refer you to the BPLs of Isaac Azimov or [en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Sagan Carl Sagan], for example. The editorial note in the history section plainly described the foundation of the revisions made.
NOTE: The messages, here and elsewhere, threatening blocks, charges of "edit war" or "vandalism" and so forth are being saved and may be used as evidence of deliberate attempts by the posters to intimidate an editor from taking proper steps, consistent with WP policy, to prevent injury and prevent harm to the subject of a BPL. If you continue to make such threats, you may face disciplinary actions. It is strongly recommended that you cease such improper and inappropriate threats, or reversions of proper edits immediately. Redslider ( talk) 08:57, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
I suggest you quickly reply to the thread I've started at WP:ANI#Possible legal threat by User:Redslider. Dougweller ( talk) 10:19, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Note that per WP:OWNTALK you may simply remove any comments you wish from your talk page. Nobody Ent 12:39, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanx, Nobody Ent. I thought that might be the case (seemed reasonable) but then somebody else turned my deletion into a strike-out and I didn't want to get into some 'edit war'. Appreciate your advice.
Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Other_threats_from_User:Redslider Nobody Ent 15:26, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Please refrain from using talk pages such as
Talk:Lion-Eating Poet in the Stone Den for general discussion of this or other topics. They are for discussion related to improving the article in specific ways, based on
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not for use as a forum or chat room. If you have specific questions about certain topics, consider visiting
our reference desk and asking them there instead of on article talk pages. See the
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Remsense
诉
09:24, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
Please Note: The charges of "Vandalism" by 'Sparthorse', in the message below, are specious at best. A full discussion of the matter, including a counter-charge that it is 'Sparthorse' who has vandalized my textual revisions to the biography of 'Charles R. Pellegrino', can be found in the 'Talk' section on 'Charles R. Pellegrino page.' ]
Please note that WP:Administrators' noticeboard is for reporting incidents that require the attention of administrators, not for posting politically-motivated statements (see this). Also, when posting on a discussion page or noticeboard, don't forget to sign your post with four tildes (~~~~); that appends your signature and the time and date of posting to the comment, making it easier to keep track of.
Aside from that.... Welcome!
Hello, Redslider, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a
Wikipedian! Please
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tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out
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before the question. Again, welcome! —
Jeremy
v^_^v
Bori!
00:57, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
Please do not introduce incorrect information into articles, as you did to
Charles R. Pellegrino. Your edits appear to be
vandalism and have been
reverted. If you believe the information you added was correct, please
cite references or sources or discuss the changes on the article's
talk page before making them again. If you would like to experiment, use the
sandbox. Thank you.
Sparthorse (
talk)
07:05, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
You may not have seen this: "Consensus is clear that we cannot claim that Pellegrino has a PhD with the sources we currently have. If Redslider continues to edit against this consensus then a request for comment on user conduct may become necessary. Best regards, Mr. Stradivarius (talk) 7:22 am, Today (UTC+0)" Dougweller ( talk) 14:51, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an
edit war according to the reverts you have made on
Charles R. Pellegrino. Users are expected to
collaborate with others, to avoid editing
disruptively, and to
try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
Please be particularly aware, Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:
If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. SarekOfVulcan (talk) 15:34, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
Malicious use warning - note, consensus does not rule in cases governing malicious attacks on the subject in a BLP. We suggest you carefully read WP:BLP Policy and other WP policy regarding malicious attempts to discredit, defame or impugn the character of a living person. Also note that it appears your comments here are of malicious intent and constitute threats meant to intimidate an editor to abandon pursuing corrective action against editor's who are defaming or otherwise causing harm to the subject of a BLP. This, along with false and unsupportable charges of "vandalism" and other matters may be brought before WP authorities for disciplinary actions against those employing such tactics.
Please Note: If those editors who persist in edit warring by continuously revising or reverting edits made to protect the subject (Charles R. Pellegrino) from malicious and defamatory text, it may be necessary request of WP administration that they be blocked or otherwise barred from editorial access to the BLP of Charles R. Pellegrino. Redslider ( talk) 20:26, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
Where you (and I) should have raised it at the first place. I copied over your post from BLPN to RSN (it's now at both venues) - I don't know why you thought it was deleted. Dougweller ( talk) 06:23, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Doug, I think we've got an 'irreconcilable differences' problem on our hands. Not that I meant it to be so, but expected from the history of the BLP that it would be. In any case, I elected to take the matter to mediation. I have not received a response as yet, but I think that is where a neutral position is to be found, if there is one. I did put your name on the parties list along with the other principles, and I hope you will join in, if and when they elect to take the matter up. That's really all I have to say for now. I'm forgoing further discussion until I hear from them. best to you, red. Redslider ( talk) 06:46, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Please stop adding
unsourced content, as you did to
Charles R. Pellegrino. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on
verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be
blocked from editing Wikipedia.
Nomoskedasticity (
talk)
08:05, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Given the serious doubts that have been raised about the validity of sources and allegations questioning the validity of Dr Pellegrino's degree; and the new evidence and reliable sources that indicate those allegations to be false; and, given the discussions that have been opened in Talk, BLPN, RSN, et. al. and that mediation has been requested, the revisions that were made to normalize his degree status are quite in order. The inclusion of Pellegrino's degree does not require any further sourcing, verifiability or treatment different from the those in numerous other Wikipedia BPLs. I refer you to the BPLs of Isaac Azimov or [en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Sagan Carl Sagan], for example. The editorial note in the history section plainly described the foundation of the revisions made.
NOTE: The messages, here and elsewhere, threatening blocks, charges of "edit war" or "vandalism" and so forth are being saved and may be used as evidence of deliberate attempts by the posters to intimidate an editor from taking proper steps, consistent with WP policy, to prevent injury and prevent harm to the subject of a BPL. If you continue to make such threats, you may face disciplinary actions. It is strongly recommended that you cease such improper and inappropriate threats, or reversions of proper edits immediately. Redslider ( talk) 08:57, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
I suggest you quickly reply to the thread I've started at WP:ANI#Possible legal threat by User:Redslider. Dougweller ( talk) 10:19, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Note that per WP:OWNTALK you may simply remove any comments you wish from your talk page. Nobody Ent 12:39, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanx, Nobody Ent. I thought that might be the case (seemed reasonable) but then somebody else turned my deletion into a strike-out and I didn't want to get into some 'edit war'. Appreciate your advice.
Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Other_threats_from_User:Redslider Nobody Ent 15:26, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Please refrain from using talk pages such as
Talk:Lion-Eating Poet in the Stone Den for general discussion of this or other topics. They are for discussion related to improving the article in specific ways, based on
reliable sources and the project
policies and guidelines; they are
not for use as a forum or chat room. If you have specific questions about certain topics, consider visiting
our reference desk and asking them there instead of on article talk pages. See the
talk page guidelines for more information. Thank you.
Remsense
诉
09:24, 21 June 2024 (UTC)