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I've made some revisions and replies in response to your review at the FAC you recently made. Dan56 ( talk) 19:36, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
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Just a word of warning. When we exchanged comments on the talk page of Plagiarism, on one occasion you placed your comments indented within mine. I come from a background of using internet news groups way back when, and that is the usual way such comments are constructed. A lot of editors on Wikipedia have never used news groups and dislike people inserting comments within theirs, so if you do it the muppets may jump up and down and insist that you comments are placed under theirs. -- PBS ( talk) 21:38, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
@ Rationalobserver: Hi, I would appreciate your input on this disputed matter. -- Lpdte77 ( talk) 06:53, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
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Please read the guidance for closing RfCs WP:RFC#Ending RfCs and more specifically the information at the top of the close templates such as {{ archive top}} which says:
Unlike WP:ANI, it is not usual to close discussions on article talk pages. Usually unless, there is a good reason to do so (such as the section is part of a process such as WP:RM or and RfC, or were set up as an informal poll (in which case {{ poll top}} is used)); sections are left open for others to comment if they wish to. This is completely consistent with Good practices for all talk pages used for collaboration which starts "Before starting a new discussion ensure there is not already an existing section on the same topic."
-- PBS ( talk) 07:08, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
Per WP:VALIDALT:
Alternative accounts have legitimate uses. For example, long-term contributors using their real names may wish to use a pseudonymous account for contributions with which they do not want their real name to be associated, or long-term users might create a new account to experience how the community functions for new users. These accounts are not sockpuppets.
A person editing an article which is highly controversial within his/her family, social or professional circle, and whose Wikipedia identity is known within that circle, or traceable to their real-world identity, may wish to use an alternative account to avoid real-world consequences from their editing or other Wikipedia actions in that area.
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Check the logs. I notified ArbCom long ago, and was CheckUser'd. I've also been "outed" and subject to attack pages by a group of cyber attackers, so I've been through Oversight too.
Here's the bottom line: I'm not a sockpuppet.
Do you need any further information? Fearofreprisal ( talk) 19:59, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
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I see nothing to be gained by further discussion of Eric Corbett in any "noisy" forum, either the noticeboards, where he has an entourage, or at Jimbo's talk page, where his entourage is currently supporting him. Since Jimbo no longer uses his reserved power to ban users, and since the "reforms" that have been proposed do not seem feasible, the question is whether to go to the ArbCom. Robert McClenon ( talk) 17:54, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Hello, Rationalobserver, it's difficult to believe you're a new user. For one thing, you have jumped feet first into hotspot areas, where you seem set on being as inflammatory as possible. You have 50% edits to Wikipedia space, 30% to Wikipedia talk, and 3.4% to article space according to this tool. Did you use to edit under another account? Would you mind telling me which? Bishonen | talk 14:28, 15 October 2014 (UTC).
Please
stop attacking other editors, as you did on
WP:ANI. If you continue, you may be
blocked from editing Wikipedia. A civil discussion about our civility policy does not need a posting full of personal attacks ("misogynist"), especially when they are not backed up with any evidence. Please don't do that again.
Black Kite (talk)
20:58, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
@ Iselilja: If you want personal attacks Eric has made plenty towards editors there that do not regularly go on his talkpage. I have diffs if you would like me to provide some. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 22:00, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
You are relativity new and already have had things thrown at you, don't let them get you down there are plenty of areas on wikipedia that are good which makes me stick around here. =)
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Random act of kindness!
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Rationalobserver, Hi, I would appreciate input on a recent poll.-- Lpdte77 ( talk) 10:42, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
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I've amended my statement at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/DangerousPanda-EatsShootsAndLeaves to add additional detail and some links. I'm really under the gun at work and this RfC came up unexpectedly so I'm pressed for time to do proper strikethroughs, etc. Bbb23 had a good suggestion, that I notify anyone who's added an endorsement, so you can decide if you think you need to re-sign or remove your endorsement or make a different response. Msnicki ( talk) 22:43, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
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Re this edit summary; you wrote that "Facts and ideas that are considered common knowledge cannot be protected by copyright", implying that particularly obscure facts or ideas could be. That's not true, and that's what I was objecting to. Ironholds ( talk) 17:38, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
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That's one of those absolute statements.
I'm Australian. An old part of the Australian idiom, rarer now, but still in existence, is for a man to greet an old male friend with "How are ya' ya' silly old cunt". It's a friendly expression, between two mates. It has nothing to do with women. I don't use the it myself. Just highlighting how impossible it is to ever create a list of words that are never acceptable.
Civility is an excellent goal, but lists of words aren't the issue. It's attitudes. I get in the way of POV pushers. They tend to come and annoy me on my Talk page. I first tell them to go away. They keep it up. I revert to stronger language. They report me for swearing. They get banned from my Talk page. Perfect strategy? I don't know. But it works. You see, it's the POV pushing that's really the uncivil behaviour in that story. The stronger language highlights it and tends to reduce it's occurrence. HiLo48 ( talk) 20:33, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
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Please accept this award, on behalf of all the women editors here who are tired of being gaslighted, with our thanks for sticking up for all women editors who can not to come forward to confront the bullies themselves! Djembayz ( talk) 13:56, 18 November 2014 (UTC) |
Hi Rationalobserver, this is just to thank you again for your kind support at the FAC. It was very good of you to take the time to review it; I know it's not an easy read. It meant a lot to me that you were willing to do that. All the best, SlimVirgin (talk) 00:07, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
Time magazine came out with a list of words to ban. Among those words was feminists. The magazine later apologized. GoodDay ( talk) 00:03, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
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Head over there and give your opinion 5.81.225.225 ( talk) 20:43, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
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I opened up an RfC for the U.S. same-sex marriage map due to the complicated situation of Kansas: RfC: How should we color Kansas? Prcc27 ( talk) 10:24, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
Hello Rationalobserver,
I am conducting research about newcomers to Wikipedia and I was hoping to ask you some questions. I’ve noticed you’ve had some good activity recently. Is there any chance you have time in the next month to speak with me? If you are interested or have any questions, please email me at gmugar [at] syr.edu or leave a message on my talk page.
I hope to be in touch soon,
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I thought you were very level-headed and rational. I liked what you were trying to accomplish re Wikipedia's civility problem, and I'll miss you.
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GoodDay, I think it's cruel and unnecessary that you feel the need to tell everyone I am a sock when the jury is still out, but I'm not sure why you felt the need to ping me when I cannot respond. That seems like mean-spirited and uncivil behavior to me. Rationalobserver ( talk) 23:30, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Rationalobserver ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
I changed my mind, since a couple of others weighed-in at the SPI, including Sergecross73, Lightbreather, and Chillum, and they think that a mistake has been made. I am not socking and I've never been blocked before, so I don't know what else to say except that I think another pair of eyes should double-check Mike V's decision. Also, if his thinking is that I am only here to bother Dan56, I would happily agree to an interaction ban between us. Rationalobserver (talk) 16:08, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Accept reason:
After a discussion with Phil, we were able to resolve a concern that I had. Therefore, I'm unblocking the account. However, I would encourage you to abide by the interaction ban to which you have agreed. Mike V • Talk 00:33, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
@ Mike V:- looking at [1] and [2] they're in the same time zone, but their proportions of article edits, and edit summary usage are very different. Are you entirely confident about this? PhilKnight ( talk) 20:03, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Mike, I'm also concerned about this block. I've looked at Rationalobserver's edits and the sockpuppeteer's, and nothing jumps out. If there's an issue between her and Dan56, an IBAN would solve things. SlimVirgin (talk) 20:35, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Generally an unblock request is taken before the community when the reviewing admin wishes to unblock but cannot find agreement with the blocking admin. I would do just that however I commented in the SPI case and as such am involved.
That being said I don't think it is an unreasonable request to have a more open viewing on this matter. Chillum 21:38, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Mike V, for being willing to take another look. Regarding the IB, can I assume that Dan56 is equally banned from interacting with me, because I agreed to a two-way IB, not a one-way, which I think is not right. Rationalobserver ( talk) 00:39, 19 December 2014 (UTC) I'd like to revert this edit. Would that be okay? Rationalobserver ( talk) 00:42, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
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Hi Rationalobserver, you're welcome, and I'm glad to see you're unblocked. The best thing is to stay away from Dan56 and hope that he will respect an IBAN too. But in your shoes I wouldn't wikilawyer it (or revert anything re: your post above). Just observe it yourself, and if the situation continues at least it won't be because of anything you've done. SlimVirgin (talk) 01:04, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Hello. I agree that altering archives to remove your comments was out of line and have reverted it.
The only way an IBAN is going to be enforceable or anything other than two people choosing to ignore each other is through community consensus. Short of a community imposed IBAN there is no way to enforce it and no penalty is likely if it is broken.
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A ban can be proposed there. If you do expect scrutiny that user and yourself. My suggestion is to try to avoid this user and if that user insists on interacting with you then escalate it. Chillum 01:16, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Im happy to see you unblocked =) Glad to have ya here. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 23:29, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
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I've given Dan56 a final warning that even passing mentions about you being a sock are out of line. That being said, please disengage in all of this, so you don't find yourself in more drama. His evidence is terrible, so I don't believe he's going to get anywhere. Its best if you just ignore him and go about your business. Thanks! Sergecross73 msg me 16:05, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi Rationalobserver, I want to add my voice to Serge's advice. It's important that you disengage completely from Dan and not mention his name again. There are lots of eyes on the situation now, and others will deal with it if it continues. There's no need for you to watch Dan's contribs or respond in any way. Every time you mention him, it opens things up again. SlimVirgin (talk) 01:28, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
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Please don't grave dance [5]. It is unbecoming. (Dennis) Farmer Brown 2¢ 17:28, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
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Happy New year! =) Was just wondering about the broken wikibreak link on the top of your page. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 23:00, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
I did that thing. Chillum 03:57, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
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This is me [6] writing five years ago - my opinion hasn't changed. Please click on Footnote 12; you see it takes a long time to bring about change in Wikipedia. Giano (talk) 20:40, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi I've looked at what is going on on Sandstein's talk page and I think it may be best for you to stop your convo with EC. What I would do in your shoes would be to contact ArbCom by e-mail: see Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee for details. There is also Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide_to_arbitration#Residuum_and_enforcement which gives some brief information, as well as at the top of Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement. Of course it is well within your rights to disregard this advice if you feel otherwise. -- Mrjulesd (talk) 21:47, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
And my advice to you Mrjulesd would be to focus more on articles rather than commenting on others! I can't see where you've edited a single article in three months! What do you think we're really here for?♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:45, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
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I've made some revisions and replies in response to your review at the FAC you recently made. Dan56 ( talk) 19:36, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
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Just a word of warning. When we exchanged comments on the talk page of Plagiarism, on one occasion you placed your comments indented within mine. I come from a background of using internet news groups way back when, and that is the usual way such comments are constructed. A lot of editors on Wikipedia have never used news groups and dislike people inserting comments within theirs, so if you do it the muppets may jump up and down and insist that you comments are placed under theirs. -- PBS ( talk) 21:38, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
@ Rationalobserver: Hi, I would appreciate your input on this disputed matter. -- Lpdte77 ( talk) 06:53, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
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Please read the guidance for closing RfCs WP:RFC#Ending RfCs and more specifically the information at the top of the close templates such as {{ archive top}} which says:
Unlike WP:ANI, it is not usual to close discussions on article talk pages. Usually unless, there is a good reason to do so (such as the section is part of a process such as WP:RM or and RfC, or were set up as an informal poll (in which case {{ poll top}} is used)); sections are left open for others to comment if they wish to. This is completely consistent with Good practices for all talk pages used for collaboration which starts "Before starting a new discussion ensure there is not already an existing section on the same topic."
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Per WP:VALIDALT:
Alternative accounts have legitimate uses. For example, long-term contributors using their real names may wish to use a pseudonymous account for contributions with which they do not want their real name to be associated, or long-term users might create a new account to experience how the community functions for new users. These accounts are not sockpuppets.
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Check the logs. I notified ArbCom long ago, and was CheckUser'd. I've also been "outed" and subject to attack pages by a group of cyber attackers, so I've been through Oversight too.
Here's the bottom line: I'm not a sockpuppet.
Do you need any further information? Fearofreprisal ( talk) 19:59, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
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I see nothing to be gained by further discussion of Eric Corbett in any "noisy" forum, either the noticeboards, where he has an entourage, or at Jimbo's talk page, where his entourage is currently supporting him. Since Jimbo no longer uses his reserved power to ban users, and since the "reforms" that have been proposed do not seem feasible, the question is whether to go to the ArbCom. Robert McClenon ( talk) 17:54, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Hello, Rationalobserver, it's difficult to believe you're a new user. For one thing, you have jumped feet first into hotspot areas, where you seem set on being as inflammatory as possible. You have 50% edits to Wikipedia space, 30% to Wikipedia talk, and 3.4% to article space according to this tool. Did you use to edit under another account? Would you mind telling me which? Bishonen | talk 14:28, 15 October 2014 (UTC).
Please
stop attacking other editors, as you did on
WP:ANI. If you continue, you may be
blocked from editing Wikipedia. A civil discussion about our civility policy does not need a posting full of personal attacks ("misogynist"), especially when they are not backed up with any evidence. Please don't do that again.
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20:58, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
@ Iselilja: If you want personal attacks Eric has made plenty towards editors there that do not regularly go on his talkpage. I have diffs if you would like me to provide some. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 22:00, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
You are relativity new and already have had things thrown at you, don't let them get you down there are plenty of areas on wikipedia that are good which makes me stick around here. =)
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Random act of kindness!
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Rationalobserver, Hi, I would appreciate input on a recent poll.-- Lpdte77 ( talk) 10:42, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
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I've amended my statement at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/DangerousPanda-EatsShootsAndLeaves to add additional detail and some links. I'm really under the gun at work and this RfC came up unexpectedly so I'm pressed for time to do proper strikethroughs, etc. Bbb23 had a good suggestion, that I notify anyone who's added an endorsement, so you can decide if you think you need to re-sign or remove your endorsement or make a different response. Msnicki ( talk) 22:43, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
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Re this edit summary; you wrote that "Facts and ideas that are considered common knowledge cannot be protected by copyright", implying that particularly obscure facts or ideas could be. That's not true, and that's what I was objecting to. Ironholds ( talk) 17:38, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
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That's one of those absolute statements.
I'm Australian. An old part of the Australian idiom, rarer now, but still in existence, is for a man to greet an old male friend with "How are ya' ya' silly old cunt". It's a friendly expression, between two mates. It has nothing to do with women. I don't use the it myself. Just highlighting how impossible it is to ever create a list of words that are never acceptable.
Civility is an excellent goal, but lists of words aren't the issue. It's attitudes. I get in the way of POV pushers. They tend to come and annoy me on my Talk page. I first tell them to go away. They keep it up. I revert to stronger language. They report me for swearing. They get banned from my Talk page. Perfect strategy? I don't know. But it works. You see, it's the POV pushing that's really the uncivil behaviour in that story. The stronger language highlights it and tends to reduce it's occurrence. HiLo48 ( talk) 20:33, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
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Hi Rationalobserver, this is just to thank you again for your kind support at the FAC. It was very good of you to take the time to review it; I know it's not an easy read. It meant a lot to me that you were willing to do that. All the best, SlimVirgin (talk) 00:07, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
Time magazine came out with a list of words to ban. Among those words was feminists. The magazine later apologized. GoodDay ( talk) 00:03, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
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Head over there and give your opinion 5.81.225.225 ( talk) 20:43, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
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I opened up an RfC for the U.S. same-sex marriage map due to the complicated situation of Kansas: RfC: How should we color Kansas? Prcc27 ( talk) 10:24, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
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I am conducting research about newcomers to Wikipedia and I was hoping to ask you some questions. I’ve noticed you’ve had some good activity recently. Is there any chance you have time in the next month to speak with me? If you are interested or have any questions, please email me at gmugar [at] syr.edu or leave a message on my talk page.
I hope to be in touch soon,
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I thought you were very level-headed and rational. I liked what you were trying to accomplish re Wikipedia's civility problem, and I'll miss you.
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GoodDay, I think it's cruel and unnecessary that you feel the need to tell everyone I am a sock when the jury is still out, but I'm not sure why you felt the need to ping me when I cannot respond. That seems like mean-spirited and uncivil behavior to me. Rationalobserver ( talk) 23:30, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
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Request reason:
I changed my mind, since a couple of others weighed-in at the SPI, including Sergecross73, Lightbreather, and Chillum, and they think that a mistake has been made. I am not socking and I've never been blocked before, so I don't know what else to say except that I think another pair of eyes should double-check Mike V's decision. Also, if his thinking is that I am only here to bother Dan56, I would happily agree to an interaction ban between us. Rationalobserver (talk) 16:08, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Accept reason:
After a discussion with Phil, we were able to resolve a concern that I had. Therefore, I'm unblocking the account. However, I would encourage you to abide by the interaction ban to which you have agreed. Mike V • Talk 00:33, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
@ Mike V:- looking at [1] and [2] they're in the same time zone, but their proportions of article edits, and edit summary usage are very different. Are you entirely confident about this? PhilKnight ( talk) 20:03, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Mike, I'm also concerned about this block. I've looked at Rationalobserver's edits and the sockpuppeteer's, and nothing jumps out. If there's an issue between her and Dan56, an IBAN would solve things. SlimVirgin (talk) 20:35, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Generally an unblock request is taken before the community when the reviewing admin wishes to unblock but cannot find agreement with the blocking admin. I would do just that however I commented in the SPI case and as such am involved.
That being said I don't think it is an unreasonable request to have a more open viewing on this matter. Chillum 21:38, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Mike V, for being willing to take another look. Regarding the IB, can I assume that Dan56 is equally banned from interacting with me, because I agreed to a two-way IB, not a one-way, which I think is not right. Rationalobserver ( talk) 00:39, 19 December 2014 (UTC) I'd like to revert this edit. Would that be okay? Rationalobserver ( talk) 00:42, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
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Hi Rationalobserver, you're welcome, and I'm glad to see you're unblocked. The best thing is to stay away from Dan56 and hope that he will respect an IBAN too. But in your shoes I wouldn't wikilawyer it (or revert anything re: your post above). Just observe it yourself, and if the situation continues at least it won't be because of anything you've done. SlimVirgin (talk) 01:04, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Hello. I agree that altering archives to remove your comments was out of line and have reverted it.
The only way an IBAN is going to be enforceable or anything other than two people choosing to ignore each other is through community consensus. Short of a community imposed IBAN there is no way to enforce it and no penalty is likely if it is broken.
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A ban can be proposed there. If you do expect scrutiny that user and yourself. My suggestion is to try to avoid this user and if that user insists on interacting with you then escalate it. Chillum 01:16, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Im happy to see you unblocked =) Glad to have ya here. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 23:29, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
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I've given Dan56 a final warning that even passing mentions about you being a sock are out of line. That being said, please disengage in all of this, so you don't find yourself in more drama. His evidence is terrible, so I don't believe he's going to get anywhere. Its best if you just ignore him and go about your business. Thanks! Sergecross73 msg me 16:05, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi Rationalobserver, I want to add my voice to Serge's advice. It's important that you disengage completely from Dan and not mention his name again. There are lots of eyes on the situation now, and others will deal with it if it continues. There's no need for you to watch Dan's contribs or respond in any way. Every time you mention him, it opens things up again. SlimVirgin (talk) 01:28, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
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Please don't grave dance [5]. It is unbecoming. (Dennis) Farmer Brown 2¢ 17:28, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
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Happy New year! =) Was just wondering about the broken wikibreak link on the top of your page. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 23:00, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
I did that thing. Chillum 03:57, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
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This is me [6] writing five years ago - my opinion hasn't changed. Please click on Footnote 12; you see it takes a long time to bring about change in Wikipedia. Giano (talk) 20:40, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi I've looked at what is going on on Sandstein's talk page and I think it may be best for you to stop your convo with EC. What I would do in your shoes would be to contact ArbCom by e-mail: see Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee for details. There is also Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide_to_arbitration#Residuum_and_enforcement which gives some brief information, as well as at the top of Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement. Of course it is well within your rights to disregard this advice if you feel otherwise. -- Mrjulesd (talk) 21:47, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
And my advice to you Mrjulesd would be to focus more on articles rather than commenting on others! I can't see where you've edited a single article in three months! What do you think we're really here for?♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:45, 28 January 2015 (UTC)