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Comment/question: What is wrong with this stupid bot? what are the mistakes!
RodrigoIPacce ( talk) 16:38, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
|title=
to those references. —
Qwerfjkl
talk
16:44, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
{{bots|optout=cs1-errors}}
He has been a free agent since mid 2022 playing last for [[Eastern Company SC|Eastern Company FC]].<ref>{{Cite web |url=
https://www.365scores.com/football/player/ahmed-magdi-46964 |title= Some title |access-date=2023-04-28 |website=www.365scores.com}}</ref>
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16:49, 28 April 2023 (UTC)Agave:
Diff:
I'm not sure what exactly the bot is indicating.... I think this has to do with a duplicat esource I added by mistake and then took away but not sure
Saussure4661 ( talk) 22:28, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
<ref>{{Cite web |url=https://www.public.asu.edu/~camartin/plants/Plant%20html%20files/agaveangustifolia.html |access-date=2023-04-18 |website=www.public.asu.edu}}</ref>
|title=
. See
WP:BAREURL for why titles should be added. —
Qwerfjkl
talk
09:18, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Sanford_Levinson&diff=prev&oldid=1151551821
Comment/question: Fixed on April 25, 2023 (over a week ago) by replacing publisher= with journal=
Allreet ( talk) 13:58, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
Page: The Demon Headmaster (2019 TV series)
Diff: Diff 1153966401
Comment/question: This wasn't a "false positive" per se. This was an AWB (AutoWikiBrowser) edit, the bulk of which didn't have anything to do with referencing. The part that Qwerfjkl picked up (the referencing error) was actually an automated genfix (general fix) from AWB. It was inserting a missing closing tag for the cite template ("}}"). So Qwerfjkl probably didn't pick this missing title previously because the cite template wasn't actually valid, whereas after my edit the genfix made it a complete cite. So that's the background. Here's my comment: I'm not sure if it's worth pursuing, but since AWB is applying a genfix in these kinds of instances, it might be worth pointing out to the AWB folks to include screening for bare URLs or missing titles in references in that kind of situation. Just throwing that out as an idea. If it's not worth pursuing, just disregard.
ButlerBlog ( talk) 14:07, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion pointed me here for large CfD nominations. I have started preparing a nomination to move all Category:Olympic alpine skiers of Albania to Category:Olympic alpine skiers for Albania for sports×countries following their parents' name format Category:Olympic competitors for Albania. Would you/the bot mentioned be able to tag the categories? What format of input is preferred? Kaffet i halsen ( talk) 16:50, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
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Updated the profile completely, take a review for approval. 106.51.27.133 ( talk) 07:15, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
Hi there, how can I create a new page? -- Shockliesinquiry ( talk) 22:15, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
I have made a number of edits to the Bob CONTI page references and added additional links. Thank you.
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How to add hanuman chalisa text back to hanuman chalisa page -- Bajranbali ( talk) 16:26, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
The entire journal citation can be generated from the PubMed ID alone, or at least all except a page number if specified. 109.87.204.96 ( talk) 19:27, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
Page: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Hermite_transform
Diff: /info/en/?search=Special:Diff/1156721729
Comment/question: I have absolutely no idea how to cite this -- it's not in a journal per se, it appears to be some internal reporting of U Mich Ann Arbor. The page itself doesn't really provide a journal name.
Linkhyrule5 ( talk) 03:07, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
Page: Menominee language
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Comment/question: The comment was that information about reference to a periodical was missing information. However, both references I entered to support the editing I did were to websites, not to periodicals.
Ljdowning ( talk) 12:44, 22 May 2023 (UTC)ljdowning
{{
cite journal}}
which requires |journal=
. If you are not citing an academic or scholarly journal, do not use {{cite journal}}
. If you cannot see the error message, see
Help:CS1 errors § Controlling error message display. A Menominee dictionary project,<ref>{{Cite journal |last=Macaulay |first=Monica |last2=Milligan |first2=Marianne |title=A Menominee-English/English-Menominee Dictionary |url=https://grantome.com/grant/NSF/BCS-0235873 |language=en}}</ref> led by [[Monica Macaulay]], has resulted in the publication of modern dictionaries of the language in support of revitalization efforts.<ref>{{Cite web |title=History: Menominee |url=https://www.teachlangwisconsin.com/menominee |access-date=2023-05-21 |website=Multilingualism and Education in Wisconsin |language=en-US}}</ref>
{{
cite journal}}
(which it apparently prefers) to {{
cite web}}
while you are creating the citation? Does it not give you the opportunity to review what citoid suggests??veaction=edit
, which is helpful in cases like these to see what VE can do.{{
cite web}}
form to auto-populate parameter values from a url; that functionality should be obvious (its obvious and works in RefToolbar so should be just as obvious in ve's form). So, this brief experiment simply confirms for me that ve is far, far from ready for prime time. Done with my rant for now.|journal=
would correspond to the "Journal" field when using the visual editor to edit citations. The issue you seem to be discussing is that the automated citation maker is not always accurate. Qwerfjkl notes that Citoid (the software component that manages our citations) tries to read the page you're citing and try to intuit what citation template to use and what fields to populate, but sometimes this doesn't work because of how the other website is structured. For whatever reason, Citoid thought the URL you used was to a journal article and used that template when it shouldn't have. In the visual editor, you can try switching to the "Manual" tab, and it will show you what template it's using at the top. You can also look and fix whatever fields might be messed up. After-the-fact, you can also try editing the citation as Qwerfjkl shows in the image above. If you click on the reference while editing, you'll see in the top left of the pop-up the kind of template it's using (in the case above, "Journal"). You can edit this, and in the bottom left you'll see a "Change reference type"; choose "manual" on the dialog box that pops up, and choose a more appropriate type (website, probably). Hope this helps! —
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Page: 1972 in the United States
Diff: [14]
Comment/question: I copy/paste that cite from Pettit Marine Paint article.
JoeNMLC ( talk) 20:16, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
Just a friendly heads-up in case you weren't already aware, since it's installed on your common.js: Careless use of ReferenceExpander has caused serious problems. It's currently at MFD, and a large cleanup project is underway to repair the citations damaged by the script. I and several other users have !voted that the script be deleted or disabled, and I wouldn't recommend using it at all unless you thoroughly check every reference it modifies against the previous revision. If you're interested in a more detailed explanation of the script's issues, Folly Mox has provided an excellent summary at the MFD. — SamX [ talk · contribs] 05:13, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
Page: Minecraft modding
Diff: 1157990272
Comment/question: Probably nothing you can do about this, but I'll explain how it happened anyways: User was rapidly vandalising the page and multiple times as I was about to revert it they added another one, in the end I still ended up reverting with one of their edits in between - and that was enough for there to not be any undo tag apparently (not even manual revert).
Personally I haven't had this happen many times with me, even though it's not super uncommon for there to be multiple users vandalising a page, but having multiple vandals or one rapid vandal editing different parts of a page rapidly is pretty rare.
2804:F14:80B6:3101:C9EF:C3EF:8F5D:C2B4 ( talk) 08:29, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
Page: Yasmin Pahlavi
Diff: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasmine_Pahlavi
Comment/question: O had been notified that the link iy used read not valid. However, I had shared a link to a video clip Yasmin Pahlavi's own verified Instagram profile. I'll share the link again. Otherwise it's the newest video which is shared on her page https://www.instagram.com/tv/Csrc8mBP7SH/?igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng==
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which caused a "generic title" error. —
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RodrigoIPacce ( talk) 16:38, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
|title=
to those references. —
Qwerfjkl
talk
16:44, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
{{bots|optout=cs1-errors}}
He has been a free agent since mid 2022 playing last for [[Eastern Company SC|Eastern Company FC]].<ref>{{Cite web |url=
https://www.365scores.com/football/player/ahmed-magdi-46964 |title= Some title |access-date=2023-04-28 |website=www.365scores.com}}</ref>
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talk
16:49, 28 April 2023 (UTC)Agave:
Diff:
I'm not sure what exactly the bot is indicating.... I think this has to do with a duplicat esource I added by mistake and then took away but not sure
Saussure4661 ( talk) 22:28, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
<ref>{{Cite web |url=https://www.public.asu.edu/~camartin/plants/Plant%20html%20files/agaveangustifolia.html |access-date=2023-04-18 |website=www.public.asu.edu}}</ref>
|title=
. See
WP:BAREURL for why titles should be added. —
Qwerfjkl
talk
09:18, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Sanford_Levinson&diff=prev&oldid=1151551821
Comment/question: Fixed on April 25, 2023 (over a week ago) by replacing publisher= with journal=
Allreet ( talk) 13:58, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
Page: The Demon Headmaster (2019 TV series)
Diff: Diff 1153966401
Comment/question: This wasn't a "false positive" per se. This was an AWB (AutoWikiBrowser) edit, the bulk of which didn't have anything to do with referencing. The part that Qwerfjkl picked up (the referencing error) was actually an automated genfix (general fix) from AWB. It was inserting a missing closing tag for the cite template ("}}"). So Qwerfjkl probably didn't pick this missing title previously because the cite template wasn't actually valid, whereas after my edit the genfix made it a complete cite. So that's the background. Here's my comment: I'm not sure if it's worth pursuing, but since AWB is applying a genfix in these kinds of instances, it might be worth pointing out to the AWB folks to include screening for bare URLs or missing titles in references in that kind of situation. Just throwing that out as an idea. If it's not worth pursuing, just disregard.
ButlerBlog ( talk) 14:07, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion pointed me here for large CfD nominations. I have started preparing a nomination to move all Category:Olympic alpine skiers of Albania to Category:Olympic alpine skiers for Albania for sports×countries following their parents' name format Category:Olympic competitors for Albania. Would you/the bot mentioned be able to tag the categories? What format of input is preferred? Kaffet i halsen ( talk) 16:50, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
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MediaWiki message delivery 21:43, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Updated the profile completely, take a review for approval. 106.51.27.133 ( talk) 07:15, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
Hi there, how can I create a new page? -- Shockliesinquiry ( talk) 22:15, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
I have made a number of edits to the Bob CONTI page references and added additional links. Thank you.
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Mgersh ( talk) 00:09, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
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How to add hanuman chalisa text back to hanuman chalisa page -- Bajranbali ( talk) 16:26, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
The entire journal citation can be generated from the PubMed ID alone, or at least all except a page number if specified. 109.87.204.96 ( talk) 19:27, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
Page: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Hermite_transform
Diff: /info/en/?search=Special:Diff/1156721729
Comment/question: I have absolutely no idea how to cite this -- it's not in a journal per se, it appears to be some internal reporting of U Mich Ann Arbor. The page itself doesn't really provide a journal name.
Linkhyrule5 ( talk) 03:07, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
Page: Menominee language
Diff:
Comment/question: The comment was that information about reference to a periodical was missing information. However, both references I entered to support the editing I did were to websites, not to periodicals.
Ljdowning ( talk) 12:44, 22 May 2023 (UTC)ljdowning
{{
cite journal}}
which requires |journal=
. If you are not citing an academic or scholarly journal, do not use {{cite journal}}
. If you cannot see the error message, see
Help:CS1 errors § Controlling error message display. A Menominee dictionary project,<ref>{{Cite journal |last=Macaulay |first=Monica |last2=Milligan |first2=Marianne |title=A Menominee-English/English-Menominee Dictionary |url=https://grantome.com/grant/NSF/BCS-0235873 |language=en}}</ref> led by [[Monica Macaulay]], has resulted in the publication of modern dictionaries of the language in support of revitalization efforts.<ref>{{Cite web |title=History: Menominee |url=https://www.teachlangwisconsin.com/menominee |access-date=2023-05-21 |website=Multilingualism and Education in Wisconsin |language=en-US}}</ref>
{{
cite journal}}
(which it apparently prefers) to {{
cite web}}
while you are creating the citation? Does it not give you the opportunity to review what citoid suggests??veaction=edit
, which is helpful in cases like these to see what VE can do.{{
cite web}}
form to auto-populate parameter values from a url; that functionality should be obvious (its obvious and works in RefToolbar so should be just as obvious in ve's form). So, this brief experiment simply confirms for me that ve is far, far from ready for prime time. Done with my rant for now.|journal=
would correspond to the "Journal" field when using the visual editor to edit citations. The issue you seem to be discussing is that the automated citation maker is not always accurate. Qwerfjkl notes that Citoid (the software component that manages our citations) tries to read the page you're citing and try to intuit what citation template to use and what fields to populate, but sometimes this doesn't work because of how the other website is structured. For whatever reason, Citoid thought the URL you used was to a journal article and used that template when it shouldn't have. In the visual editor, you can try switching to the "Manual" tab, and it will show you what template it's using at the top. You can also look and fix whatever fields might be messed up. After-the-fact, you can also try editing the citation as Qwerfjkl shows in the image above. If you click on the reference while editing, you'll see in the top left of the pop-up the kind of template it's using (in the case above, "Journal"). You can edit this, and in the bottom left you'll see a "Change reference type"; choose "manual" on the dialog box that pops up, and choose a more appropriate type (website, probably). Hope this helps! —
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17:52, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Page:
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Comment/question:
Biologist2023 ( talk) 05:49, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
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Page: 1972 in the United States
Diff: [14]
Comment/question: I copy/paste that cite from Pettit Marine Paint article.
JoeNMLC ( talk) 20:16, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
Just a friendly heads-up in case you weren't already aware, since it's installed on your common.js: Careless use of ReferenceExpander has caused serious problems. It's currently at MFD, and a large cleanup project is underway to repair the citations damaged by the script. I and several other users have !voted that the script be deleted or disabled, and I wouldn't recommend using it at all unless you thoroughly check every reference it modifies against the previous revision. If you're interested in a more detailed explanation of the script's issues, Folly Mox has provided an excellent summary at the MFD. — SamX [ talk · contribs] 05:13, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
Page: Minecraft modding
Diff: 1157990272
Comment/question: Probably nothing you can do about this, but I'll explain how it happened anyways: User was rapidly vandalising the page and multiple times as I was about to revert it they added another one, in the end I still ended up reverting with one of their edits in between - and that was enough for there to not be any undo tag apparently (not even manual revert).
Personally I haven't had this happen many times with me, even though it's not super uncommon for there to be multiple users vandalising a page, but having multiple vandals or one rapid vandal editing different parts of a page rapidly is pretty rare.
2804:F14:80B6:3101:C9EF:C3EF:8F5D:C2B4 ( talk) 08:29, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
Page: Yasmin Pahlavi
Diff: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasmine_Pahlavi
Comment/question: O had been notified that the link iy used read not valid. However, I had shared a link to a video clip Yasmin Pahlavi's own verified Instagram profile. I'll share the link again. Otherwise it's the newest video which is shared on her page https://www.instagram.com/tv/Csrc8mBP7SH/?igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng==
DavidSallam ( talk) 00:24, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
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which caused a "generic title" error. —
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talk
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