If you have any problems, concerns, or just want to comment on my actions and behavior in general, please leave a message here, or if you would like to discuss things, my talk page and email is available for use. A watch page has been created that will list areas that I might have problems with and may need help with. - Ottava Rima
To create: (4-5)
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Tracts to create: (6-11)
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Created/expanded pages needing leads or needing copyedit work: (27 out of 39)
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Will update and expand shortly. Ottava Rima ( talk) 20:55, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
If anyone wants to help, post here. Ottava Rima ( talk) 20:55, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
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Ottava, Marskell left some comments on my talk page regarding RCC. Sandy, Karanacs and Malleus also commented. I responded to them but I was wondering what you thought about all this since you helped so much in the last peer review. Please let me know if you are in agreement with them - I disagreed. See [1] - Sandy's post is just below it. NancyHeise talk 04:04, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Sorry I didn't get back to this, but I had a rather lengthy and involved FAC wrapping up. Interesting journal, although it predates the clarification of the identity of the hallucinogenic fungus as Amanita muscaria. I am reading some stuff and anything else which turns up I am grateful. Mushrooms are elusive to get mateiral on... :) Cheers, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 13:38, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Good... I'm still working on them. In the meantime Johnbod has put up a page on John Baptist Medina, the earliest illustrator of Paradise Lost.. perhaps you could tie that into the hook as well. Litho derm 00:10, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
After starting the entire Milton thing, I feel terrible that I haven't been able to work on it. I have just gotten out of the hospital, though. I won't be able to edit Wikipedia much in the coming weeks. Thanks for your hard work on the Milton articles. I'll try to do some work on them when I can. Awadewit ( talk) 03:28, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Couldn't you add a few words to the unexpanded sections of John Milton's politics and John Milton's religion? I'd be happier about promoting these ones if you did so. As a general rule, I don't promote articles that have unexpanded sections. Gatoclass ( talk) 07:30, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Okay, look, the hook which contains that article will not be featured for at least 24 hours, so I will take another look at it tomorrow to make a definitive decision. Please don't get your hopes up however, because ATM I am not at all inclined to promote it. Gatoclass ( talk) 15:55, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Is this one you're interested in -- John Milton's poetic style? I noticed it's up for speedy deletion and thought you might have had someone create it as a placeholder. Karanacs ( talk) 20:02, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
...and am very sorry for that. I have been ill since about midway through last week, and now there is late work that I must rush to make up before the end of the semester. I swear this isn't merely an excuse or a cop-out.. as I said, I convinced Johnbod to put up John Baptist Medina, so hopefully that will do in its place. My apologies, Litho derm 20:31, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
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This comment is entirely uncalled for, unwarranted as far as I can tell, and beneath anyone who holds this Project in high regard, serving no purpose other than to wound and escalate an unfortunate dispute. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 23:30, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
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Now that the flame war between us has settled, I feel it is safe for me to leave comments on your mentorship guidelines, which I have done. These comments are not intended to criticize you or start a new fight, but just to point out areas for improvement, since it seems that you have ongoing goals you are working towards. If you see the comments as an attempt to look for a fight, please understand that is not what I intended. I am leaving those comments both to give you suggestions (which that page appears to be soliciting) and to document what happened. Unfortunately, because of your previous comments, I feel I will never be able to work with you until I have at least seen you apologize to Suntag and myself, but I have at least tried to leave some neutral remarks. If you disagree, feel free to remove them. — Politizer talk/ contribs 17:59, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
If you have any problems, concerns, or just want to comment on my actions and behavior in general, please leave a message here, or if you would like to discuss things, my talk page and email is available for use. A watch page has been created that will list areas that I might have problems with and may need help with. - Ottava Rima
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Will update and expand shortly. Ottava Rima ( talk) 20:55, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
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User:Awadewit just got out of the hospital - the last thing she needs is to have all these messages between you and User:Politizer on DYK that have nothing to do with her on her talk page. Please move your conversation elsewhere for her sake, thanks, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 18:01, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
As I understand it, you only need one person who feels a hook is DYK worthy. Why don't you move it to the next page? Only the nominator is ineligible to perform such an action.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 20:12, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Ottava, maybe take a break and give others a chance, eh. You are one of the few people getting angry and picking a fight on Cas's talk in a long while. Does that tell you anything. "I've only been gone from DYK for two weeks and it seems like everything went backwards". Do you really expect anybody to take such a statement seriously? Do you really hold everybody else in such low regard. C'mon. Ceoil ( talk) 01:24, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
And Ceoil, I don't have an ego. I don't have pride. If I did, I would have bothered to push harder against you on Lucy. I rather don't care enough about anything to have an ego. I have my work, and I am always moving on to the next area. Also, your comment about AN/I is rather strange. I only started two pages there, and one was a request for oversight. I only mentioned AN, which isn't about banning, blocking, or anything like that. Its an area to request an admin to do what admin can do, i.e. edit on protected pages, work on the main page, other issues, etc. Ottava Rima ( talk) 23:50, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I think you are opposing because you believe that the article still lacks details about the life of Luan, and that is due to its lack of sources (i.e. the current sources do not cover these aspects). To better explain my comments to your view, could you take a look at User talk:Nousernamesleft/archive7#Additional resources for Luan Da, which contains my cursory translations of Zhang and Xuhui for his perusal for the article. Hopefully, that can help make it clearer why I state that other sources have nothing new that Zhang, Xuhui, and Watson (translation of Record of the Grand Historian) could not provide. Furthermore, if you feel that something is substantially lacking from the article on Luan, perhaps these translations can help to pinpoint what they are, so that they can be raised for Nousernames left to act on. Jappalang ( talk) 01:57, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Aahhh... yes, you are correct. Well, it was definitely far too long and jumbled. Now I see why I thought it was a copy-vio, since it was copied-and-pasted from another article. A paring down is in order. Thank you for your message. --- RepublicanJacobite The'FortyFive' 04:05, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
I see what you're saying. I guess my issue is for articles with several templates, navboxes, infoboxes, etc. and a couple sentences, the result will be the article would need a likely 20x+ expansion rather than a 5x - or that the addition of these things can allow for minimal textual expansion. That's what my worry was when reading over that. Wizardman 20:29, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
There was indeed a post at AN/I, and the names were protected by a court order - we were instructed not to post them, and the AN/I thread agreed. I hope this answers your question. You might also want to know that WP:NLT does not mention anything about the matters at hand. Regards, — neuro (talk) 21:36, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, it sucks - I can see both sides. I commiserate as there are stubs I started that I just couldn't get up to critical size. Cheers, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 06:16, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Ottava. Thanks for your question about my grammar correction to the "Middlemarch" page. By the way, yours is the first message I've received from another Wikipedian, so let me know if I'm responding correctly. Yes, the combination of "but which are" is better grammar, in this particular sentence, than just "but are". Without the "which", it's not precisely clear, grammar-wise, what is being referred to, even though the previous part of the sentence contains what's being referred to. I'm not a grammar scholar, but that much I do know. I may be nit-picking, since "but are" more or less still works, but adding "which" is the more common sentence structure I've been reading all my life. JohnSawyer ( talk) 10:00, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the note about blockquotes. I don't have Dr. Pda's script installed so couldn't see what it counted and what it didn't. As indicated on WT:DYK, I would be okay with blockquotes being included, but after some thought I do not feel strongly enough about it to support or oppose, which is why I indented my initial comment. -- JayHenry ( talk) 23:23, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
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Recently the Poetry Project's talk has had a discussion on what criteria should be used to assess poems, poets, and collections, and I would love to hear any insight you might have on the subject, as so much of your work falls into this category. The project's active members is running quite low, so any imput from you might help us come up with a more defined set of rules that would extend beyond simply me and Midnightdreary.
On an unrelated note, I was flipping through Vendler's discussion of Keat's odes to find that she uses Keat's drawing of the urn for her discussion of Ode on Indolence, and I was wondering if you would think it overkill if I were to put the image on the Ode on Indolence article as well. Mrathel ( talk) 13:14, 15 December 2008 (UTC) Thanks again Mrathel ( talk) 13:14, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey Ottava. According to the comments section on the poll, Lar received an off-wiki request to close per WP:SNOW. Lar hasn't and made it clear that it isn't quite ready for closure. I just was wondering if you could chip in with your opinion on how long this should go for. Most of the DYK regulars have voted, but I'm sure there are more editors who have an opinion. Obviously we don't want it going on for a month, I'm thinking before the weekend. What do you think? \ / ( ⁂ | ※) 04:23, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
I saw that you added this term in Urn, and i was just wondering if this information is clearly stated in the Gittings piece, as I can't find an online reference to the term but would love to use the source for the Indolence article. Mrathel ( talk) 13:35, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Hello Ottava Rima, I currently have Over the Edge (1999) at FAC, and I saw your comment on Lockdown (2008)'s FAC that you usually need 4 or 5 copyedits. My question is, do you know of any copyeditors that I may request a copyedit for? Thanks.-- S R X 21:46, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
No problem. I have some backlogged projects to work on, such as User:Lithoderm/Inuit culture and User:Lithoderm/Native American art, and so and don't have my undivided attention to devote to the Blake illustrations- therefore what I think I'll do is split off a section about the "On the Morning of Christ's Nativity" illustrations and nominate them in the special section they have for Christmas themed DYKs.. Litho derm 22:02, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
William Blake's Illustrations of On the Morning of Christ's Nativity is ready. Do you want a co-nom? Litho derm 23:18, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Saw your note to SG. You seem to be presuming that the puff piece was written by the book's author rather than a bookmonger's pimp. Not that I've read the book yet either, but it may be a tad premature to blame the biographer. LeadSongDog ( talk) 16:46, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Ottava, thanks for your note, I was glad to read it. We do disagree every so often, but so it goes. Happy holidays to you too. Ceoil ( talk) 21:31, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
If Seth's RfA passes, do you think we should consider this ;-) --- Balloonman PoppaBalloon 23:32, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi Ottava: thanks so much for leaving a note on my talk page (I think my favorite thing about Wikipedia is getting that little "You have new messages" line). Anyway, I replied to you. I apologize that my reply got a little long winded; but, as you said: it might be a little philopohical! I hope my comments clear about my support of the candidate. Regards, Lazulilasher ( talk) 01:02, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi Ottava - sorry I couldn't get back to you earlier (in re to your note on my talkpage). In response to your first question, yes I agree that markup and the nice formatting is part of what a good-looking online encyclopedia is comprised of. However, the main portion of what outsiders will read, and receive pertinent information from, is the chunk of prose itself. A long while back, consensus formed that the creation of new main prose was the most important part of of a new/newly improved article, relating to the DYK process. Thus there was a requirement set on the main informational prose, rather than including all formatting such as infoboxes and links. I agree with that, because the addition of readable text is the main method of expanding an article's usefulness and broad coverage on a subject. And since that poll at WT:DYK shouldn't be trying to entirely reshape this foundational consensus (that only prose is important), I said that I usually "strongly oppose" file size calculations – counting everything (not just prose) is opposite of former consensus, which would be upsetting the apple cart to try to entirely rewrite the rules at this time. Also, I half-agree with your logic about the markup being expanded fivefold along with prose - even in that event, I'm afraid that it would get complicated and confusing pretty quick if that system were to be implemented. Anyways, I still stand by my comments - that we should stick with the prose-size rules and count only those characters (which isn't that hard if one has a computer application or java script installed that is readily available). An article's main prose is what makes up its broadness of a topic; markup and pretty wikifying should come with the territory, and the increase of markup with a 5x expansion can definitely vary from case to case.
Apologies if I rambled too much, but those are my (pared down) thoughts. ;-) Regards, and happy holidays! Jamie ☆ S93 20:46, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
The above review has been restarted. Since you commented on it before the restart, I thought to inform you.-- Will C 07:47, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the accolades and comments and inputs on my 9-article DYK hook. I believe this is a record now from the previous 8-article hook held by User:Gatoclass for eleven months. -- Doug Coldwell talk 14:58, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
The prophetic books would be fun, but I think we should focus on improving articles related to the Songs of Innocence and Experience first. I seem to be losing the battle at Wikipedia_talk:External_links#http:.2F.2Fwww.shmoop.com.2F- and I keep removing a link to here from The Tyger. If we improve those articles, there's no way that anyone can argue that "Shmoop" has more content than Wikipedia on specific articles... I'm surprised that you never commented in that thread, by the way- I thought that craptacular stuff like this (on London, 1802):
“ | This poem is extra-special-fancy by Wordsworth's standards; we can imagine him sitting down, clearing his throat, cracking his knuckles, and thinking, "What would Milton like?" This is kind of like buckling down to write a fan letter to your favorite celebrity, dead or alive, in which you want to tell them just how totally amazing he/she is, and how much you really, REALLY love him/her. | ” |
...would get you "all riled up". Oh well. Litho derm 16:52, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
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Christmas, and here's also hoping that all your family and friends are well. Lets all hope that the year coming will be a good one! If we've had disputes in the past, I hold no grudges, especially at such a time as this. If you don't know I am, I apologise, feel free to remove this from your page. Come and say hi, I won't bite, I swear! It could even be good for me, you know - I'm feeling a little down at the moment with all of these snowmen giving me the cold shoulder :( — neur ho ho ho (talk) 00:08, 25 December 2008 (UTC) | Ottava Rima, here's hoping you're having a wonderful
Thanks for making 2008 an interesting and enlightening year for me; at some point, our paths have crossed and I've found your comments amusing, helpful or thought-provoking—I'll let you guess which!
Good wiches back at you Ottava, and wish you all the best for the year. This is my tune for you, from 4.29 on in particular. Ceoil ( talk) 04:33, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Merry Christmas everyone. Have a good end of the year.
If you have any problems, concerns, or just want to comment on my actions and behavior in general,
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watch page has been created that will list areas that I might have problems with and may need help with. - Ottava Rima
I used the wrong adjective, and meant meant global pan-religious not unitarian (i.e. uniting church), now for alot of reversions/amendations...Cheers, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 23:32, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
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Christmas, and here's also hoping that all your family and friends are well. Lets all hope that the year coming will be a good one! If we've had disputes in the past, I hold no grudges, especially at such a time as this. If you don't know I am, I apologise, feel free to remove this from your page. Come and say hi, I won't bite, I swear! It could even be good for me, you know - I'm feeling a little down at the moment with all of these snowmen giving me the cold shoulder :( — neur ho ho ho (talk) 00:08, 25 December 2008 (UTC) | Ottava Rima, here's hoping you're having a wonderful
Thanks for making 2008 an interesting and enlightening year for me; at some point, our paths have crossed and I've found your comments amusing, helpful or thought-provoking—I'll let you guess which!
Good wishes back at you Ottava, and wish you all the best for the year. This is my tune for you, from 4.29 on in particular. And I want to thank you again for you work on Lucy. Ceoil ( talk) 04:33, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the greeting! Have had my head down for a bit, pulling things together for Darwin's impending bicentenary. Some of it would perhaps interest you, touching on early 19th century thought, in particular questions of belief. There's also his involvement with the church and with the natural theology of the day. So, hope you enjoy these, and Season's Greetings to all! . . dave souza, talk 10:13, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Thank you very much Ottava, and my best wishes for happy hollidays to you and yours as well! Hopefully our editing paths will cross more in the new year to come. :-) -- Xover ( talk) 14:58, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Thank for the message, happy holidays to you as well. ⇒ SWATJester Son of the Defender 21:00, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
I don't know if people are listening anymore. Sigh. But if you notice, of his two GA's, one sprang into existence fully formed, complete with refs, the second (the diamond one) was nominated by him for GA eleven hours after it was uploaded (I can't say written). Very strange.-- Wehwalt ( talk) 15:23, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
(outdent) "He who did sell the lion's skin, while the beast lived, was killed with hunting't."-- Wehwalt ( talk) 17:55, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
I thought wikipedia is uncensored. are you infringing on my First Amendment right of Free Speech?
I know I don't own the articles but I've spent several hours of work on them and he's trying to destroy that. That's just wrong. Please give him vandalism warnings for doing so. TomCat4680 ( talk) 18:36, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
I didn't see that. I'll keep a weak support, though, as Suntag has firm clue in other areas. -- Dylan 620 Contribs Sign! 20:28, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for reviewing the article I started.-- MONGO 16:03, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Since you've been asking for it on IRC, I'll repost the link you pasted into #wikipedia-en: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Ottava_Rima.2C_et._al._at_WT:DYK. I haven't read it and don't know what its about, but you wanted to be "notified" so here you go! Avruch T 19:29, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi there - happy new year to you, and I hope you had a good Christmas. It happens that I didn't ('flu in the house - wife, daughter, me, in-laws) but with a bit of luck, the new year will be better. I have been too busy with work and domestic arrangements to give any time to WP, but since I'll be unemployed in the new year, I should have a lot more time on my hands. Cheers - Lexo ( talk) 01:27, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Happy late merry Christmas... a bit late, but I close up shop when my library does:) Mrathel ( talk) 16:00, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
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So many! I particularly liked the Samuel Johnson series... and I'm pleased to see Ada is on your to do list. Let your muse always be with you. Happy new year and thanks from me and the wiki. Victuallers ( talk) 16:58, 29 December 2008 (UTC) |
I recently wrote a bit of an article for Ode on Melancholy because it made me sad to see that it redirected to the Keats article. As Keats is more of your field than mine, I was hoping you can breeze through it and see if I have made any blatant factual errors. Thanks. Mrathel ( talk) 04:36, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Just to clarify: you want me to do 3 paragraphs of summary on the page for all the 1819 poems? or do you want me to go through and change the poem summaries on each of the individual pages? If you want it on the page for all the poems, then i am guessing you want it above the link to the poems' main pages? Mrathel ( talk) 00:40, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Just checking in to see if there is anything new with the Keats articles Mrathel ( talk) 17:24, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Ottava Rima, the editor you are, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that you satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space. Your opinions on yourself are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at User:GlassCobra/Editor for deletion#Ottava Rima and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit during the discussion but should not remove the nomination (unless you wish not to participate); such removal will not end the deletion discussion (actually it will). Thank you, and have a good sense of humor :). VX! ~~~ 05:30, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
I won't be able to edit properly until tonight; we can talk then. Ceoil ( talk) 09:23, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Hello,
I saw your comments on the above thread and thought I'd drop a quick note as I've had thoughts along the same line, namely that breaking news stories are not as reliable for sources, having seen the same thing myself on more than a few occasions. As I was using the same reasoning each time this issue came up, I wrote it up to save explaining it repeatedly, which is at WP:DUST. While it's only an essay, I've been happy to see others referring to it while discussing recent news stories, and deciding to wait to see how the "dust settles", so it seems to have helped a little, which is good. Feel free to give it a read, and use any of the reasoning in it for future debates, or to add more to it if you can improve it. Regards, MartinRe ( talk) 18:46, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
And a Happy New Year to you too! -- The Red Pen of Doom 21:44, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
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Hey there, Ottava Rima! Happy new
Gregorian year. All the best for the new year, both towards you and your family and friends too. I know that I am the only person lonely enough to be running this thing as the new year is ushered in, but meh, what are you going to do. I like to keep my templated messages in a satisfactorily melancholy tone. ;)
Congratulations to Coren, Wizardman, Vassyana, Carcharoth, Jayvdb, Casliber, Risker, Roger Davies, Cool Hand Luke and Rlevse, who were all appointed to the Arbitration Committee after the ArbCom elections. I am sure I am but a voice of many when I say I trust the aforementioned users to improve the committee, each in their own way, as listed within their respective election statements. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to update the 2009 article, heh. |
Hello Ottava Rima, just stopping by to wish you a Happy New Year's! Good luck editing in the new year, 2009! (RockManQ) VX! ~~~ 05:29, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Note for self.
Possible DYK: ... that 1819 odes of John Keats (pictured), including Ode on a Grecian Urn, On Indolence, On Melancholy, To a Nightingale, To Psyche, To Autumn, created "a new tone for the English lyric" according to W. J. Bate? (209 characters including "pictured", 198 without)
Finishing To Autumn now, will submit soon. Ottava Rima ( talk) 16:19, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
I want to thank you for any comments you left during Lockdown (2008)'s FAC review. They helped to promote the article.-- Will C 02:34, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, I must be dense... what is the non-reffed part? There was only one PDP-11 machine, which is refed, and millions of Intellivisions, which is refed. Is it one of these, or something else? Maury Markowitz ( talk) 01:25, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your message. I didn't check the history of the article before I expanded it, although I can see from the history that a lot of text was deleted as a copyvio. However, my expansion of the article, although using the same source as the deleted text, was written in my own words. Obviously if one is trying to convey the information there are going to be similarities in the text in places. I have rewritten that sentence. My opinion is that there is no copyright violation of the Franks Hall website as the article stands at the moment and therefore it should be good to go. Mjroots ( talk) 07:11, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I've noticed that you do some work at T:TDYK. I was wondering if you could take a look at my hook for this article. I don't like to be impatient, but it's among the expiring nominations (December 30), and nobody has looked at it yet. My concern is that, if there is a problem, the nomination might be removed before I have a chance to make any necessary fixes. Thanks, GaryColemanFan ( talk) 18:11, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
I added a comment to the disscussion section of my RfA, and I would very much appreciate it if you could comment on it. Thanks and cheers, — Ed 17 (Talk / Contribs) 00:13, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm getting a bit worried about your apparently new-found empathy and reasonableness Ottava. You're not trying to prepare the ground for an assault on RfA in 2019 are you? :lol: -- Malleus Fatuorum 00:49, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi,
I noticed you voted oppose in the flag revs straw pole and would like to ask if you would mind adding User:Promethean/No to your user or talk page to make your position clear to people who visit your page :) - Thanks to Neurolysis for the template «l| Ψrometheăn ™|l» (talk) 07:02, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
-- Dravecky ( talk) 09:05, 8 January 2009 (UTC) Congrats and thanks. Let me know what your plans are for future projects, and I will be happy to lend a hand if my time frees up Mrathel ( talk) 18:26, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
I was very, very, very, very busy around Christmas time. Just now noticed your holiday wishes, when i was archiving. Thanks! Best Holiday Wishes to you, too! Ling.Nut ( talk— WP:3IAR) 13:21, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah I saw. I'm going to start heavy work on this now; you might keep an eye and jump in when necessary. Obviously I would preffer to see you fully focus in on the page, but if not I understand where you are coming from re FAC stress. However, I would prefer if you, not me, made the co-nom when the time comes. Ceoil ( talk) 17:37, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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TomCat4680 ( talk) 14:36, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
The barest glance at the edits by 84.65.143.72 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) confirms that the block by J. delanoy was a well-deserved one. Please don't waste the time of the volunteers at the Administrators' Noticeboard with any more legal wrangling, or spurious accusations of misconduct.
If you're having some sort of personal dispute with J. delanoy, sort it out through proper channels — don't file bogus complaints at WP:AN.
If you pull a stunt like that again, you will find yourself blocked for WP:POINT. TenOfAllTrades( talk) 02:39, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Merry Christmas everyone. Have a good end of the year.
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watch page has been created that will list areas that I might have problems with and may need help with. - Ottava Rima
I'm getting a bit worried about your apparently new-found empathy and reasonableness Ottava. You're not trying to prepare the ground for an assault on RfA in 2019 are you? :lol: -- Malleus Fatuorum 00:49, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah I saw. I'm going to start heavy work on this now; you might keep an eye and jump in when necessary. Obviously I would preffer to see you fully focus in on the page, but if not I understand where you are coming from re FAC stress. However, I would prefer if you, not me, made the co-nom when the time comes. Ceoil ( talk) 17:37, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for raising a question about my statement, I've tried to clarify my perceptions of the issues. [4] Questions of etiquette and civility are clearly important, but in my view our primary aim is building an encyclopedia according to article content policies, and stamping out rudeness is a failure if it impedes our primary aim. Just my tuppenceworth. . . dave souza, talk 11:55, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
I had a hankering to spruce up ghost in the manner of vampire, which occupied me for much of 2007. One thing I would really appreciate is some commentary of the use of ghosts in literature (eg in Shakespeare, Dickens, Wilde, as messengers/ etc.) Would you have anything to add? This is one of my weak points. Casliber ( talk · contribs) 02:07, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Aaargh, I hadn't given much thought to psychological ghosts, and I think touching on them is good. Wuthering Hts is a great example. Dammit, big topic :(
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FA! :) Lexo ( talk) 02:08, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
I don't know why you are asking me this. Surely you know by now that the minimum length of an article for DYK is 1,500 chars, and your two current finished Fielding articles are well over that.
You don't have to do "full" plot summaries but I think for articles about plays there should certainly be a plot summary section giving some idea of what the play is about, even if it's only a paragraph or two. Gatoclass ( talk) 02:22, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
Did you see this in the Times? Awadewit ( talk) 10:50, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
In regards to the USS Connecticut page and copyright problems in regards to this copyrighted book (looking for phrases that include 3 or more consecutive words that are duplicated and thus violate copyright standards):
Addition of "full loads" and a few rearrangements but preservation of many original phrasings.
Three random passages found in addition to the previous problems. Ottava Rima ( talk) 19:19, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up. It doesn't bother me if you cite the Cup for something like this. I agree it is likely the speed thing that gets people. GARDEN 19:56, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
I have been browsing AfD lately to avoid doing anything meaningful, and I came across wp:Articles for deletion/List of street names of drugs (3rd nomination) , which I thought to be a clear case where an article provided nothing but the "slang or idiom guide" discribed in wp:dicdef, but the admin who ruled in the case seemed to disagree. Since you seem to understand these rules better than I, I was wondering if you could lend me your thoughts if you have time. Mrathel ( talk) 23:43, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
I was confused by this for a long time - "to Cole" as some sort of trasnitive verb I had never seen, but then realised it was a capital i not a small l... Casliber ( talk · contribs) 20:52, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
There has been a series of edits to To Autumn which has created a problem with the page, I am not sure if you have the rollback feature, but I don't have the patience to do it manually at the moment:) Mrathel ( talk) 20:50, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
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Was going to make some comments to National Register of Historic Places Registration Form but noticed that section seems to be missing off your Talk Page. I am in direct contact with Patrick A. Schroeder, the Park Historian. If you like I can give you his e-mail address and you can communicate with him directly. He gave me advice on some of the 16 Appomattox articles for additional improvements which I made. He said everything looked good and accurate, as far as he was concerned. He is doing some additional research I requested and should be getting back to me soon (suspect in the next few days). If you would like I can forward his reply to you also.
Either I don't see your Archive Section with your various archives when you removed sections off your Talk Page from time to time -OR- perhaps you accidently forgot to Archive the sections when you removed them from your Talk Page. This should be of benefit: Help:Archiving a talk page. Cheers! -- Doug Coldwell talk 22:06, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
In reference to this edit, I don't see this as a trivia section; it's a list of other art that references the work, which is common in film and literature articles. I won't disagree if you claim this list in particular is haphazard and poorly written, but deleting instead of revising it is information loss. Xsmasher ( talk) 05:46, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure how to explain nonsense if you don't understand. Emoticons have nothing to do with it. If it's uncomprehensible gibberish, it's nonsense. If you understand what they're getting at, it's not. Wily D 20:18, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
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It is awful to go through what you must be going through right now. My deepest sympathies go out to you and your family. NuclearWarfare ( Talk) 04:16, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm away from home at the moment, but can check the bio tomorrow night. Are you happy enough with the page otherwise? Ceoil ( talk) 15:56, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
If you have any problems, concerns, or just want to comment on my actions and behavior in general, please leave a message here, or if you would like to discuss things, my talk page and email is available for use. A watch page has been created that will list areas that I might have problems with and may need help with. - Ottava Rima
To create: (4-5)
Poets to create: (0-4)
Tracts to create: (6-11)
To expand: (2-7)
Created/expanded pages needing leads or needing copyedit work: (27 out of 39)
Possible DYK sets:
Finished DYK sets: (26 pages)
Will update and expand shortly. Ottava Rima ( talk) 20:55, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
If anyone wants to help, post here. Ottava Rima ( talk) 20:55, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
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Ottava, Marskell left some comments on my talk page regarding RCC. Sandy, Karanacs and Malleus also commented. I responded to them but I was wondering what you thought about all this since you helped so much in the last peer review. Please let me know if you are in agreement with them - I disagreed. See [1] - Sandy's post is just below it. NancyHeise talk 04:04, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Sorry I didn't get back to this, but I had a rather lengthy and involved FAC wrapping up. Interesting journal, although it predates the clarification of the identity of the hallucinogenic fungus as Amanita muscaria. I am reading some stuff and anything else which turns up I am grateful. Mushrooms are elusive to get mateiral on... :) Cheers, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 13:38, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Good... I'm still working on them. In the meantime Johnbod has put up a page on John Baptist Medina, the earliest illustrator of Paradise Lost.. perhaps you could tie that into the hook as well. Litho derm 00:10, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
After starting the entire Milton thing, I feel terrible that I haven't been able to work on it. I have just gotten out of the hospital, though. I won't be able to edit Wikipedia much in the coming weeks. Thanks for your hard work on the Milton articles. I'll try to do some work on them when I can. Awadewit ( talk) 03:28, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Couldn't you add a few words to the unexpanded sections of John Milton's politics and John Milton's religion? I'd be happier about promoting these ones if you did so. As a general rule, I don't promote articles that have unexpanded sections. Gatoclass ( talk) 07:30, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Okay, look, the hook which contains that article will not be featured for at least 24 hours, so I will take another look at it tomorrow to make a definitive decision. Please don't get your hopes up however, because ATM I am not at all inclined to promote it. Gatoclass ( talk) 15:55, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Is this one you're interested in -- John Milton's poetic style? I noticed it's up for speedy deletion and thought you might have had someone create it as a placeholder. Karanacs ( talk) 20:02, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
...and am very sorry for that. I have been ill since about midway through last week, and now there is late work that I must rush to make up before the end of the semester. I swear this isn't merely an excuse or a cop-out.. as I said, I convinced Johnbod to put up John Baptist Medina, so hopefully that will do in its place. My apologies, Litho derm 20:31, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
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This comment is entirely uncalled for, unwarranted as far as I can tell, and beneath anyone who holds this Project in high regard, serving no purpose other than to wound and escalate an unfortunate dispute. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 23:30, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
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Now that the flame war between us has settled, I feel it is safe for me to leave comments on your mentorship guidelines, which I have done. These comments are not intended to criticize you or start a new fight, but just to point out areas for improvement, since it seems that you have ongoing goals you are working towards. If you see the comments as an attempt to look for a fight, please understand that is not what I intended. I am leaving those comments both to give you suggestions (which that page appears to be soliciting) and to document what happened. Unfortunately, because of your previous comments, I feel I will never be able to work with you until I have at least seen you apologize to Suntag and myself, but I have at least tried to leave some neutral remarks. If you disagree, feel free to remove them. — Politizer talk/ contribs 17:59, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
If you have any problems, concerns, or just want to comment on my actions and behavior in general, please leave a message here, or if you would like to discuss things, my talk page and email is available for use. A watch page has been created that will list areas that I might have problems with and may need help with. - Ottava Rima
Finished DYK sets: (26 pages)
Will update and expand shortly. Ottava Rima ( talk) 20:55, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
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User:Awadewit just got out of the hospital - the last thing she needs is to have all these messages between you and User:Politizer on DYK that have nothing to do with her on her talk page. Please move your conversation elsewhere for her sake, thanks, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 18:01, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
As I understand it, you only need one person who feels a hook is DYK worthy. Why don't you move it to the next page? Only the nominator is ineligible to perform such an action.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 20:12, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Ottava, maybe take a break and give others a chance, eh. You are one of the few people getting angry and picking a fight on Cas's talk in a long while. Does that tell you anything. "I've only been gone from DYK for two weeks and it seems like everything went backwards". Do you really expect anybody to take such a statement seriously? Do you really hold everybody else in such low regard. C'mon. Ceoil ( talk) 01:24, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
And Ceoil, I don't have an ego. I don't have pride. If I did, I would have bothered to push harder against you on Lucy. I rather don't care enough about anything to have an ego. I have my work, and I am always moving on to the next area. Also, your comment about AN/I is rather strange. I only started two pages there, and one was a request for oversight. I only mentioned AN, which isn't about banning, blocking, or anything like that. Its an area to request an admin to do what admin can do, i.e. edit on protected pages, work on the main page, other issues, etc. Ottava Rima ( talk) 23:50, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I think you are opposing because you believe that the article still lacks details about the life of Luan, and that is due to its lack of sources (i.e. the current sources do not cover these aspects). To better explain my comments to your view, could you take a look at User talk:Nousernamesleft/archive7#Additional resources for Luan Da, which contains my cursory translations of Zhang and Xuhui for his perusal for the article. Hopefully, that can help make it clearer why I state that other sources have nothing new that Zhang, Xuhui, and Watson (translation of Record of the Grand Historian) could not provide. Furthermore, if you feel that something is substantially lacking from the article on Luan, perhaps these translations can help to pinpoint what they are, so that they can be raised for Nousernames left to act on. Jappalang ( talk) 01:57, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Aahhh... yes, you are correct. Well, it was definitely far too long and jumbled. Now I see why I thought it was a copy-vio, since it was copied-and-pasted from another article. A paring down is in order. Thank you for your message. --- RepublicanJacobite The'FortyFive' 04:05, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
I see what you're saying. I guess my issue is for articles with several templates, navboxes, infoboxes, etc. and a couple sentences, the result will be the article would need a likely 20x+ expansion rather than a 5x - or that the addition of these things can allow for minimal textual expansion. That's what my worry was when reading over that. Wizardman 20:29, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
There was indeed a post at AN/I, and the names were protected by a court order - we were instructed not to post them, and the AN/I thread agreed. I hope this answers your question. You might also want to know that WP:NLT does not mention anything about the matters at hand. Regards, — neuro (talk) 21:36, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, it sucks - I can see both sides. I commiserate as there are stubs I started that I just couldn't get up to critical size. Cheers, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 06:16, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Ottava. Thanks for your question about my grammar correction to the "Middlemarch" page. By the way, yours is the first message I've received from another Wikipedian, so let me know if I'm responding correctly. Yes, the combination of "but which are" is better grammar, in this particular sentence, than just "but are". Without the "which", it's not precisely clear, grammar-wise, what is being referred to, even though the previous part of the sentence contains what's being referred to. I'm not a grammar scholar, but that much I do know. I may be nit-picking, since "but are" more or less still works, but adding "which" is the more common sentence structure I've been reading all my life. JohnSawyer ( talk) 10:00, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the note about blockquotes. I don't have Dr. Pda's script installed so couldn't see what it counted and what it didn't. As indicated on WT:DYK, I would be okay with blockquotes being included, but after some thought I do not feel strongly enough about it to support or oppose, which is why I indented my initial comment. -- JayHenry ( talk) 23:23, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
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Recently the Poetry Project's talk has had a discussion on what criteria should be used to assess poems, poets, and collections, and I would love to hear any insight you might have on the subject, as so much of your work falls into this category. The project's active members is running quite low, so any imput from you might help us come up with a more defined set of rules that would extend beyond simply me and Midnightdreary.
On an unrelated note, I was flipping through Vendler's discussion of Keat's odes to find that she uses Keat's drawing of the urn for her discussion of Ode on Indolence, and I was wondering if you would think it overkill if I were to put the image on the Ode on Indolence article as well. Mrathel ( talk) 13:14, 15 December 2008 (UTC) Thanks again Mrathel ( talk) 13:14, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey Ottava. According to the comments section on the poll, Lar received an off-wiki request to close per WP:SNOW. Lar hasn't and made it clear that it isn't quite ready for closure. I just was wondering if you could chip in with your opinion on how long this should go for. Most of the DYK regulars have voted, but I'm sure there are more editors who have an opinion. Obviously we don't want it going on for a month, I'm thinking before the weekend. What do you think? \ / ( ⁂ | ※) 04:23, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
I saw that you added this term in Urn, and i was just wondering if this information is clearly stated in the Gittings piece, as I can't find an online reference to the term but would love to use the source for the Indolence article. Mrathel ( talk) 13:35, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Hello Ottava Rima, I currently have Over the Edge (1999) at FAC, and I saw your comment on Lockdown (2008)'s FAC that you usually need 4 or 5 copyedits. My question is, do you know of any copyeditors that I may request a copyedit for? Thanks.-- S R X 21:46, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
No problem. I have some backlogged projects to work on, such as User:Lithoderm/Inuit culture and User:Lithoderm/Native American art, and so and don't have my undivided attention to devote to the Blake illustrations- therefore what I think I'll do is split off a section about the "On the Morning of Christ's Nativity" illustrations and nominate them in the special section they have for Christmas themed DYKs.. Litho derm 22:02, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
William Blake's Illustrations of On the Morning of Christ's Nativity is ready. Do you want a co-nom? Litho derm 23:18, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Saw your note to SG. You seem to be presuming that the puff piece was written by the book's author rather than a bookmonger's pimp. Not that I've read the book yet either, but it may be a tad premature to blame the biographer. LeadSongDog ( talk) 16:46, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Ottava, thanks for your note, I was glad to read it. We do disagree every so often, but so it goes. Happy holidays to you too. Ceoil ( talk) 21:31, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
If Seth's RfA passes, do you think we should consider this ;-) --- Balloonman PoppaBalloon 23:32, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi Ottava: thanks so much for leaving a note on my talk page (I think my favorite thing about Wikipedia is getting that little "You have new messages" line). Anyway, I replied to you. I apologize that my reply got a little long winded; but, as you said: it might be a little philopohical! I hope my comments clear about my support of the candidate. Regards, Lazulilasher ( talk) 01:02, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi Ottava - sorry I couldn't get back to you earlier (in re to your note on my talkpage). In response to your first question, yes I agree that markup and the nice formatting is part of what a good-looking online encyclopedia is comprised of. However, the main portion of what outsiders will read, and receive pertinent information from, is the chunk of prose itself. A long while back, consensus formed that the creation of new main prose was the most important part of of a new/newly improved article, relating to the DYK process. Thus there was a requirement set on the main informational prose, rather than including all formatting such as infoboxes and links. I agree with that, because the addition of readable text is the main method of expanding an article's usefulness and broad coverage on a subject. And since that poll at WT:DYK shouldn't be trying to entirely reshape this foundational consensus (that only prose is important), I said that I usually "strongly oppose" file size calculations – counting everything (not just prose) is opposite of former consensus, which would be upsetting the apple cart to try to entirely rewrite the rules at this time. Also, I half-agree with your logic about the markup being expanded fivefold along with prose - even in that event, I'm afraid that it would get complicated and confusing pretty quick if that system were to be implemented. Anyways, I still stand by my comments - that we should stick with the prose-size rules and count only those characters (which isn't that hard if one has a computer application or java script installed that is readily available). An article's main prose is what makes up its broadness of a topic; markup and pretty wikifying should come with the territory, and the increase of markup with a 5x expansion can definitely vary from case to case.
Apologies if I rambled too much, but those are my (pared down) thoughts. ;-) Regards, and happy holidays! Jamie ☆ S93 20:46, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
The above review has been restarted. Since you commented on it before the restart, I thought to inform you.-- Will C 07:47, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the accolades and comments and inputs on my 9-article DYK hook. I believe this is a record now from the previous 8-article hook held by User:Gatoclass for eleven months. -- Doug Coldwell talk 14:58, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
The prophetic books would be fun, but I think we should focus on improving articles related to the Songs of Innocence and Experience first. I seem to be losing the battle at Wikipedia_talk:External_links#http:.2F.2Fwww.shmoop.com.2F- and I keep removing a link to here from The Tyger. If we improve those articles, there's no way that anyone can argue that "Shmoop" has more content than Wikipedia on specific articles... I'm surprised that you never commented in that thread, by the way- I thought that craptacular stuff like this (on London, 1802):
“ | This poem is extra-special-fancy by Wordsworth's standards; we can imagine him sitting down, clearing his throat, cracking his knuckles, and thinking, "What would Milton like?" This is kind of like buckling down to write a fan letter to your favorite celebrity, dead or alive, in which you want to tell them just how totally amazing he/she is, and how much you really, REALLY love him/her. | ” |
...would get you "all riled up". Oh well. Litho derm 16:52, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
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I used the wrong adjective, and meant meant global pan-religious not unitarian (i.e. uniting church), now for alot of reversions/amendations...Cheers, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 23:32, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Merry Christmas! | ||
Christmas, and here's also hoping that all your family and friends are well. Lets all hope that the year coming will be a good one! If we've had disputes in the past, I hold no grudges, especially at such a time as this. If you don't know I am, I apologise, feel free to remove this from your page. Come and say hi, I won't bite, I swear! It could even be good for me, you know - I'm feeling a little down at the moment with all of these snowmen giving me the cold shoulder :( — neur ho ho ho (talk) 00:08, 25 December 2008 (UTC) | Ottava Rima, here's hoping you're having a wonderful
Thanks for making 2008 an interesting and enlightening year for me; at some point, our paths have crossed and I've found your comments amusing, helpful or thought-provoking—I'll let you guess which!
Good wiches back at you Ottava, and wish you all the best for the year. This is my tune for you, from 4.29 on in particular. Ceoil ( talk) 04:33, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Merry Christmas everyone. Have a good end of the year.
If you have any problems, concerns, or just want to comment on my actions and behavior in general,
please leave a message here, or if you would like to discuss things, my talk page and email is available for use. A
watch page has been created that will list areas that I might have problems with and may need help with. - Ottava Rima
I used the wrong adjective, and meant meant global pan-religious not unitarian (i.e. uniting church), now for alot of reversions/amendations...Cheers, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 23:32, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Merry Christmas! | ||
Christmas, and here's also hoping that all your family and friends are well. Lets all hope that the year coming will be a good one! If we've had disputes in the past, I hold no grudges, especially at such a time as this. If you don't know I am, I apologise, feel free to remove this from your page. Come and say hi, I won't bite, I swear! It could even be good for me, you know - I'm feeling a little down at the moment with all of these snowmen giving me the cold shoulder :( — neur ho ho ho (talk) 00:08, 25 December 2008 (UTC) | Ottava Rima, here's hoping you're having a wonderful
Thanks for making 2008 an interesting and enlightening year for me; at some point, our paths have crossed and I've found your comments amusing, helpful or thought-provoking—I'll let you guess which!
Good wishes back at you Ottava, and wish you all the best for the year. This is my tune for you, from 4.29 on in particular. And I want to thank you again for you work on Lucy. Ceoil ( talk) 04:33, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the greeting! Have had my head down for a bit, pulling things together for Darwin's impending bicentenary. Some of it would perhaps interest you, touching on early 19th century thought, in particular questions of belief. There's also his involvement with the church and with the natural theology of the day. So, hope you enjoy these, and Season's Greetings to all! . . dave souza, talk 10:13, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Thank you very much Ottava, and my best wishes for happy hollidays to you and yours as well! Hopefully our editing paths will cross more in the new year to come. :-) -- Xover ( talk) 14:58, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Thank for the message, happy holidays to you as well. ⇒ SWATJester Son of the Defender 21:00, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
I don't know if people are listening anymore. Sigh. But if you notice, of his two GA's, one sprang into existence fully formed, complete with refs, the second (the diamond one) was nominated by him for GA eleven hours after it was uploaded (I can't say written). Very strange.-- Wehwalt ( talk) 15:23, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
(outdent) "He who did sell the lion's skin, while the beast lived, was killed with hunting't."-- Wehwalt ( talk) 17:55, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
I thought wikipedia is uncensored. are you infringing on my First Amendment right of Free Speech?
I know I don't own the articles but I've spent several hours of work on them and he's trying to destroy that. That's just wrong. Please give him vandalism warnings for doing so. TomCat4680 ( talk) 18:36, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
I didn't see that. I'll keep a weak support, though, as Suntag has firm clue in other areas. -- Dylan 620 Contribs Sign! 20:28, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for reviewing the article I started.-- MONGO 16:03, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Since you've been asking for it on IRC, I'll repost the link you pasted into #wikipedia-en: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Ottava_Rima.2C_et._al._at_WT:DYK. I haven't read it and don't know what its about, but you wanted to be "notified" so here you go! Avruch T 19:29, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi there - happy new year to you, and I hope you had a good Christmas. It happens that I didn't ('flu in the house - wife, daughter, me, in-laws) but with a bit of luck, the new year will be better. I have been too busy with work and domestic arrangements to give any time to WP, but since I'll be unemployed in the new year, I should have a lot more time on my hands. Cheers - Lexo ( talk) 01:27, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Happy late merry Christmas... a bit late, but I close up shop when my library does:) Mrathel ( talk) 16:00, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
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So many! I particularly liked the Samuel Johnson series... and I'm pleased to see Ada is on your to do list. Let your muse always be with you. Happy new year and thanks from me and the wiki. Victuallers ( talk) 16:58, 29 December 2008 (UTC) |
I recently wrote a bit of an article for Ode on Melancholy because it made me sad to see that it redirected to the Keats article. As Keats is more of your field than mine, I was hoping you can breeze through it and see if I have made any blatant factual errors. Thanks. Mrathel ( talk) 04:36, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Just to clarify: you want me to do 3 paragraphs of summary on the page for all the 1819 poems? or do you want me to go through and change the poem summaries on each of the individual pages? If you want it on the page for all the poems, then i am guessing you want it above the link to the poems' main pages? Mrathel ( talk) 00:40, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Just checking in to see if there is anything new with the Keats articles Mrathel ( talk) 17:24, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Ottava Rima, the editor you are, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that you satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space. Your opinions on yourself are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at User:GlassCobra/Editor for deletion#Ottava Rima and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit during the discussion but should not remove the nomination (unless you wish not to participate); such removal will not end the deletion discussion (actually it will). Thank you, and have a good sense of humor :). VX! ~~~ 05:30, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
I won't be able to edit properly until tonight; we can talk then. Ceoil ( talk) 09:23, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Hello,
I saw your comments on the above thread and thought I'd drop a quick note as I've had thoughts along the same line, namely that breaking news stories are not as reliable for sources, having seen the same thing myself on more than a few occasions. As I was using the same reasoning each time this issue came up, I wrote it up to save explaining it repeatedly, which is at WP:DUST. While it's only an essay, I've been happy to see others referring to it while discussing recent news stories, and deciding to wait to see how the "dust settles", so it seems to have helped a little, which is good. Feel free to give it a read, and use any of the reasoning in it for future debates, or to add more to it if you can improve it. Regards, MartinRe ( talk) 18:46, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
And a Happy New Year to you too! -- The Red Pen of Doom 21:44, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
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Hey there, Ottava Rima! Happy new
Gregorian year. All the best for the new year, both towards you and your family and friends too. I know that I am the only person lonely enough to be running this thing as the new year is ushered in, but meh, what are you going to do. I like to keep my templated messages in a satisfactorily melancholy tone. ;)
Congratulations to Coren, Wizardman, Vassyana, Carcharoth, Jayvdb, Casliber, Risker, Roger Davies, Cool Hand Luke and Rlevse, who were all appointed to the Arbitration Committee after the ArbCom elections. I am sure I am but a voice of many when I say I trust the aforementioned users to improve the committee, each in their own way, as listed within their respective election statements. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to update the 2009 article, heh. |
Hello Ottava Rima, just stopping by to wish you a Happy New Year's! Good luck editing in the new year, 2009! (RockManQ) VX! ~~~ 05:29, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Note for self.
Possible DYK: ... that 1819 odes of John Keats (pictured), including Ode on a Grecian Urn, On Indolence, On Melancholy, To a Nightingale, To Psyche, To Autumn, created "a new tone for the English lyric" according to W. J. Bate? (209 characters including "pictured", 198 without)
Finishing To Autumn now, will submit soon. Ottava Rima ( talk) 16:19, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
I want to thank you for any comments you left during Lockdown (2008)'s FAC review. They helped to promote the article.-- Will C 02:34, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, I must be dense... what is the non-reffed part? There was only one PDP-11 machine, which is refed, and millions of Intellivisions, which is refed. Is it one of these, or something else? Maury Markowitz ( talk) 01:25, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your message. I didn't check the history of the article before I expanded it, although I can see from the history that a lot of text was deleted as a copyvio. However, my expansion of the article, although using the same source as the deleted text, was written in my own words. Obviously if one is trying to convey the information there are going to be similarities in the text in places. I have rewritten that sentence. My opinion is that there is no copyright violation of the Franks Hall website as the article stands at the moment and therefore it should be good to go. Mjroots ( talk) 07:11, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I've noticed that you do some work at T:TDYK. I was wondering if you could take a look at my hook for this article. I don't like to be impatient, but it's among the expiring nominations (December 30), and nobody has looked at it yet. My concern is that, if there is a problem, the nomination might be removed before I have a chance to make any necessary fixes. Thanks, GaryColemanFan ( talk) 18:11, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
I added a comment to the disscussion section of my RfA, and I would very much appreciate it if you could comment on it. Thanks and cheers, — Ed 17 (Talk / Contribs) 00:13, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm getting a bit worried about your apparently new-found empathy and reasonableness Ottava. You're not trying to prepare the ground for an assault on RfA in 2019 are you? :lol: -- Malleus Fatuorum 00:49, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi,
I noticed you voted oppose in the flag revs straw pole and would like to ask if you would mind adding User:Promethean/No to your user or talk page to make your position clear to people who visit your page :) - Thanks to Neurolysis for the template «l| Ψrometheăn ™|l» (talk) 07:02, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
-- Dravecky ( talk) 09:05, 8 January 2009 (UTC) Congrats and thanks. Let me know what your plans are for future projects, and I will be happy to lend a hand if my time frees up Mrathel ( talk) 18:26, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
I was very, very, very, very busy around Christmas time. Just now noticed your holiday wishes, when i was archiving. Thanks! Best Holiday Wishes to you, too! Ling.Nut ( talk— WP:3IAR) 13:21, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah I saw. I'm going to start heavy work on this now; you might keep an eye and jump in when necessary. Obviously I would preffer to see you fully focus in on the page, but if not I understand where you are coming from re FAC stress. However, I would prefer if you, not me, made the co-nom when the time comes. Ceoil ( talk) 17:37, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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The barest glance at the edits by 84.65.143.72 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) confirms that the block by J. delanoy was a well-deserved one. Please don't waste the time of the volunteers at the Administrators' Noticeboard with any more legal wrangling, or spurious accusations of misconduct.
If you're having some sort of personal dispute with J. delanoy, sort it out through proper channels — don't file bogus complaints at WP:AN.
If you pull a stunt like that again, you will find yourself blocked for WP:POINT. TenOfAllTrades( talk) 02:39, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Merry Christmas everyone. Have a good end of the year.
If you have any problems, concerns, or just want to comment on my actions and behavior in general,
please leave a message here, or if you would like to discuss things, my talk page and email is available for use. A
watch page has been created that will list areas that I might have problems with and may need help with. - Ottava Rima
I'm getting a bit worried about your apparently new-found empathy and reasonableness Ottava. You're not trying to prepare the ground for an assault on RfA in 2019 are you? :lol: -- Malleus Fatuorum 00:49, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah I saw. I'm going to start heavy work on this now; you might keep an eye and jump in when necessary. Obviously I would preffer to see you fully focus in on the page, but if not I understand where you are coming from re FAC stress. However, I would prefer if you, not me, made the co-nom when the time comes. Ceoil ( talk) 17:37, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for raising a question about my statement, I've tried to clarify my perceptions of the issues. [4] Questions of etiquette and civility are clearly important, but in my view our primary aim is building an encyclopedia according to article content policies, and stamping out rudeness is a failure if it impedes our primary aim. Just my tuppenceworth. . . dave souza, talk 11:55, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
I had a hankering to spruce up ghost in the manner of vampire, which occupied me for much of 2007. One thing I would really appreciate is some commentary of the use of ghosts in literature (eg in Shakespeare, Dickens, Wilde, as messengers/ etc.) Would you have anything to add? This is one of my weak points. Casliber ( talk · contribs) 02:07, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Aaargh, I hadn't given much thought to psychological ghosts, and I think touching on them is good. Wuthering Hts is a great example. Dammit, big topic :(
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FA! :) Lexo ( talk) 02:08, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
I don't know why you are asking me this. Surely you know by now that the minimum length of an article for DYK is 1,500 chars, and your two current finished Fielding articles are well over that.
You don't have to do "full" plot summaries but I think for articles about plays there should certainly be a plot summary section giving some idea of what the play is about, even if it's only a paragraph or two. Gatoclass ( talk) 02:22, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
Did you see this in the Times? Awadewit ( talk) 10:50, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
In regards to the USS Connecticut page and copyright problems in regards to this copyrighted book (looking for phrases that include 3 or more consecutive words that are duplicated and thus violate copyright standards):
Addition of "full loads" and a few rearrangements but preservation of many original phrasings.
Three random passages found in addition to the previous problems. Ottava Rima ( talk) 19:19, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up. It doesn't bother me if you cite the Cup for something like this. I agree it is likely the speed thing that gets people. GARDEN 19:56, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
I have been browsing AfD lately to avoid doing anything meaningful, and I came across wp:Articles for deletion/List of street names of drugs (3rd nomination) , which I thought to be a clear case where an article provided nothing but the "slang or idiom guide" discribed in wp:dicdef, but the admin who ruled in the case seemed to disagree. Since you seem to understand these rules better than I, I was wondering if you could lend me your thoughts if you have time. Mrathel ( talk) 23:43, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
I was confused by this for a long time - "to Cole" as some sort of trasnitive verb I had never seen, but then realised it was a capital i not a small l... Casliber ( talk · contribs) 20:52, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
There has been a series of edits to To Autumn which has created a problem with the page, I am not sure if you have the rollback feature, but I don't have the patience to do it manually at the moment:) Mrathel ( talk) 20:50, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
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Was going to make some comments to National Register of Historic Places Registration Form but noticed that section seems to be missing off your Talk Page. I am in direct contact with Patrick A. Schroeder, the Park Historian. If you like I can give you his e-mail address and you can communicate with him directly. He gave me advice on some of the 16 Appomattox articles for additional improvements which I made. He said everything looked good and accurate, as far as he was concerned. He is doing some additional research I requested and should be getting back to me soon (suspect in the next few days). If you would like I can forward his reply to you also.
Either I don't see your Archive Section with your various archives when you removed sections off your Talk Page from time to time -OR- perhaps you accidently forgot to Archive the sections when you removed them from your Talk Page. This should be of benefit: Help:Archiving a talk page. Cheers! -- Doug Coldwell talk 22:06, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
In reference to this edit, I don't see this as a trivia section; it's a list of other art that references the work, which is common in film and literature articles. I won't disagree if you claim this list in particular is haphazard and poorly written, but deleting instead of revising it is information loss. Xsmasher ( talk) 05:46, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure how to explain nonsense if you don't understand. Emoticons have nothing to do with it. If it's uncomprehensible gibberish, it's nonsense. If you understand what they're getting at, it's not. Wily D 20:18, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
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It is awful to go through what you must be going through right now. My deepest sympathies go out to you and your family. NuclearWarfare ( Talk) 04:16, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm away from home at the moment, but can check the bio tomorrow night. Are you happy enough with the page otherwise? Ceoil ( talk) 15:56, 22 February 2009 (UTC)