Hey there. I thought an admin had better get in and check this article - it's swinging back and forth between the preferred versions of anons. One with a criticism section and another without. I'd say this edit is fairly representative of the warring. GIven that this is a BLP, should it be semi-protected? -- Merbabu ( talk) 14:39, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Is protection warranted? It's annoying reverting so often. Timeshift ( talk) 09:57, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
What is the email address that the image and disclaimer must be sent to? I can have a fair few imported. Watchover ( talk) 04:35, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Haha, I missed that entirely! I'd guess it's some junior high school kid's idea of humour. :| Orderinchaos 04:03, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Orderinchaos, I'm from it:wiki (so, first of all, sorry for my poor english). Great job with the images of the Perth LGAs, now there's just this one to finish the job :)) Apart from this, can I ask a question? This summer I've been in Western Australia and since the articles regarding the australian topics are very few in italian wiki, I've started to write something. Now I've seen that the Shire of Serpentine-Jarrahdale is counted as a Peel region LGA and as a Perth region LGA: is this correct? I know that there's no real boundary, but it's the only western australian LGA with two regions and it sounds a little strange to me. Thanks in advance, you can answer on my it:wiki page because I'm active mainly there. Fabius aka Tirinto 14:44, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello. I just wanted to thank you for your comments both on the deleted dab page and on the administrators' board. I was quite upset about the whole issue, and so was very pleased to see your words. Thanks, Boleyn3 ( talk) 13:47, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Yikes! OK, sorry about that. I obviously didn't comprehend the part of Shire of Dundas article that says "generally along the Eyre Highway". Oh well, you learn something every day. So the city of KB covers a long narrow strip east of Kalgoorlie, right? I was inspired to edit these Nullarbor Plain articles after finding out that the Red Rocks Point weather station is back online, after an absence of nearly four years! Graham 87 09:56, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Now that is what I call good news - thanks for that graham! More power to any improvement of any of the nullarbor arts I say! Satu Suro 10:31, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
⇌ Jake Wartenberg 03:14, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Western_Australian_prohibition_referendum,_1925 - the numbers are not showing in the table Satu Suro 04:52, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
''Horrors - dont tell the australian noticeboard about this lot - we'll never be free of the curse [gmailed a link] maybe its a disease or something :(
Satu
Suro
14:24, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
(talk page item shoiuld have been under separate heading - apologies to bidgee and orderinchaos) 'Horrors - dont tell the australian noticeboard about this lot - we'll never be free of the curse [gmailed a link] maybe its a disease or something' - regarding a totally different topic and subject - space note to self - always keep talk items separate Satu Suro 00:19, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
what a relief to see you editing at reasonable hours :) - at times i worry you might have hit my oldest teenagers lifestyle (sleep all day and computer all night ) Satu Suro 00:39, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
How do you get so much info? Northern Tas suburbs are mostly one liners with the next to no info available, not sure about book but still... Chuq ( talk · contribs) probably expanded some. However, OR wasn't as big a problem back then. Aaroncrick ( talk) Review me! 00:52, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
There are many local history books in lonnie (more than there are for same size areas in wa) - they are not in print though - local libraries have huge amounts of stuff Satu Suro 00:54, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, I didn't mean for you to go into so much trouble. Very insightful nonetheless. Aaroncrick ( talk) Review me! 01:42, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Aaroncrick ( talk) Review me! 11:21, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
You know, I was surprised Perth wasn't a GA or FA with: You, Moondyne, Hesp, SatuSuro and Gnangarra all from there (I think). Poor old Hobart just had Noodles fantastic pictures (some of which I've stole) and unsourced IP additions. Aaroncrick ( talk) Review me! 09:03, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Nah, if you really want to reduce carbon emissions, an ETS isn't the way to go. Think of it, whatever you set the cap at, the government is basically encouraging everyone to emit carbon up to that cap.
For example, if you introduce technology at your power plant that reduces your carbon emissions by 50%, you now have a whole bunch of extra carbon credits you no longer need. Rudd wants you to sell them. Which means, that someone else will now increase their CO2 emissions by the amount of emissions you saved!
Quite apart from that, a cap-and-trade system doesn't really cap emissions. For example, who supplies the carbon credits if there is a really big bushfire? Or an industrial accident? What about all the financial whizkids that short-sell carbon credits and then go broke?
Even within the CO2-is-the-cause-of-all-our-environmental-problems paradigm, it is far better to introduce a straightforward CO2 tax than an ETS.
My own view is that if anything is going to save the environment, it is going to be education and technology, not some over-clever taxation scheme. The ETS has been dreamt up by useless rent-seekers who think they can save the world with excel spreadsheets and mouse clicks, rather than putting their brain power to inventing technology to make people's lives better.
I grew up during the Cold War and the ever-present risk of nuclear armageddon... worrying about too many cow farts seems pretty small beer to me... far better to worry about curbing overpopulation and how we are going to feed everyone. -- Surturz ( talk) 02:55, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
I don't know anything about them off the top of my head. I had a look, and found this singularly unhelpful link, but then struck gold with this. Looks like Arnold Wienholt might get a little expanded as well! Frickeg ( talk) 23:57, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
-- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 00:58, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
Sir, It has come to our attentin you edit patterns reflect a certain, um, lack of the afforementioned - it is in our own experience that lack of the particular item can bring on various patterns that might make your capacity to be a long distance truck driver somewhat more possible than editing political history tables .... Satu Suro 02:17, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello there - what do you make of this? -- Merbabu ( talk) 12:41, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Surturz appears to be up to his old tricks... Timeshift ( talk) 11:01, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
In May 2008, the Asylum Seeker Resource Centre said the Department of Immigration and Citizenship was rejecting asylum seeker applications at a higher rate than under the previous government, saying 41 of 42 applications had been rejected. [1] Evans claimed a denial rate of 77 percent, based on his acknowledgment that of a caseload of 730 appeals, he has intervened in 170. [2]
Um, I was working on expanding some of these articles, slowly - see Port Gawler, South Australia, Price, South Australia and Yeelanna, South Australia (please restore this article). You may want to delete Category:Suburbs of Whyalla given that it is now (virtually) empty.
I understand and sympathise with your actions (as you can tell from my post on AWNB) but don't you think you may have left a message on AWNB given there were plans there to expand these stubs? -- Mattinbgn\ talk 01:28, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Sorry about creating any that were not notable i really did mean well i will be sure that id I create more I will make sure to find more sources. I admit i was rushing through creating a lot without properly looking at the reference. I just have one request is that if you delete anymore just to notify me because it was a surprise going through my list and seeing a lot of red links. I have also left this message on the Australian Wikipedians' notice board. Cheers. Kyle 1278 04:31, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for looking into this. Re this, I guess this was the right thing to do. If not, please revert me. I'm sure it was written some where, that edits of blocked users/socks can be removed. regards -- Merbabu ( talk) 22:57, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
User:Joe Hockey. huh? -- Merbabu ( talk) 02:46, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello. I just wanted to let you know you can unprotect Jimmy Nail if you want to. I didn't know about the e-mail to the legal department. All I saw was someone removing properly referenced material from an article. After seeing your edit summary I'll assume you have more information on this matter than I do and will accept the deletions as being proper. The article no longer needs to be protected. Thank you, and happy editing! 152.16.16.75 ( talk) 00:30, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for remind, so according the WP:LIVING other editors alreadly remove the information-- Mys 721tx ( talk) 18:41, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Please explain why the Wikipedia: Deletion policy (WP:DEL) was not followed, deleting this page on the same day it was listed in Articles for Deletion. "The discussion lasts at least seven full days." Also, the protection of the page from recreation after improvement seems highly excessive. Please explain this as well. Crickmanzz ( talk) 21:08, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Hey there. I thought an admin had better get in and check this article - it's swinging back and forth between the preferred versions of anons. One with a criticism section and another without. I'd say this edit is fairly representative of the warring. GIven that this is a BLP, should it be semi-protected? -- Merbabu ( talk) 14:39, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Is protection warranted? It's annoying reverting so often. Timeshift ( talk) 09:57, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
What is the email address that the image and disclaimer must be sent to? I can have a fair few imported. Watchover ( talk) 04:35, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Haha, I missed that entirely! I'd guess it's some junior high school kid's idea of humour. :| Orderinchaos 04:03, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Orderinchaos, I'm from it:wiki (so, first of all, sorry for my poor english). Great job with the images of the Perth LGAs, now there's just this one to finish the job :)) Apart from this, can I ask a question? This summer I've been in Western Australia and since the articles regarding the australian topics are very few in italian wiki, I've started to write something. Now I've seen that the Shire of Serpentine-Jarrahdale is counted as a Peel region LGA and as a Perth region LGA: is this correct? I know that there's no real boundary, but it's the only western australian LGA with two regions and it sounds a little strange to me. Thanks in advance, you can answer on my it:wiki page because I'm active mainly there. Fabius aka Tirinto 14:44, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello. I just wanted to thank you for your comments both on the deleted dab page and on the administrators' board. I was quite upset about the whole issue, and so was very pleased to see your words. Thanks, Boleyn3 ( talk) 13:47, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Yikes! OK, sorry about that. I obviously didn't comprehend the part of Shire of Dundas article that says "generally along the Eyre Highway". Oh well, you learn something every day. So the city of KB covers a long narrow strip east of Kalgoorlie, right? I was inspired to edit these Nullarbor Plain articles after finding out that the Red Rocks Point weather station is back online, after an absence of nearly four years! Graham 87 09:56, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Now that is what I call good news - thanks for that graham! More power to any improvement of any of the nullarbor arts I say! Satu Suro 10:31, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
⇌ Jake Wartenberg 03:14, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Western_Australian_prohibition_referendum,_1925 - the numbers are not showing in the table Satu Suro 04:52, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
''Horrors - dont tell the australian noticeboard about this lot - we'll never be free of the curse [gmailed a link] maybe its a disease or something :(
Satu
Suro
14:24, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
(talk page item shoiuld have been under separate heading - apologies to bidgee and orderinchaos) 'Horrors - dont tell the australian noticeboard about this lot - we'll never be free of the curse [gmailed a link] maybe its a disease or something' - regarding a totally different topic and subject - space note to self - always keep talk items separate Satu Suro 00:19, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
what a relief to see you editing at reasonable hours :) - at times i worry you might have hit my oldest teenagers lifestyle (sleep all day and computer all night ) Satu Suro 00:39, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
How do you get so much info? Northern Tas suburbs are mostly one liners with the next to no info available, not sure about book but still... Chuq ( talk · contribs) probably expanded some. However, OR wasn't as big a problem back then. Aaroncrick ( talk) Review me! 00:52, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
There are many local history books in lonnie (more than there are for same size areas in wa) - they are not in print though - local libraries have huge amounts of stuff Satu Suro 00:54, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, I didn't mean for you to go into so much trouble. Very insightful nonetheless. Aaroncrick ( talk) Review me! 01:42, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Aaroncrick ( talk) Review me! 11:21, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
You know, I was surprised Perth wasn't a GA or FA with: You, Moondyne, Hesp, SatuSuro and Gnangarra all from there (I think). Poor old Hobart just had Noodles fantastic pictures (some of which I've stole) and unsourced IP additions. Aaroncrick ( talk) Review me! 09:03, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Nah, if you really want to reduce carbon emissions, an ETS isn't the way to go. Think of it, whatever you set the cap at, the government is basically encouraging everyone to emit carbon up to that cap.
For example, if you introduce technology at your power plant that reduces your carbon emissions by 50%, you now have a whole bunch of extra carbon credits you no longer need. Rudd wants you to sell them. Which means, that someone else will now increase their CO2 emissions by the amount of emissions you saved!
Quite apart from that, a cap-and-trade system doesn't really cap emissions. For example, who supplies the carbon credits if there is a really big bushfire? Or an industrial accident? What about all the financial whizkids that short-sell carbon credits and then go broke?
Even within the CO2-is-the-cause-of-all-our-environmental-problems paradigm, it is far better to introduce a straightforward CO2 tax than an ETS.
My own view is that if anything is going to save the environment, it is going to be education and technology, not some over-clever taxation scheme. The ETS has been dreamt up by useless rent-seekers who think they can save the world with excel spreadsheets and mouse clicks, rather than putting their brain power to inventing technology to make people's lives better.
I grew up during the Cold War and the ever-present risk of nuclear armageddon... worrying about too many cow farts seems pretty small beer to me... far better to worry about curbing overpopulation and how we are going to feed everyone. -- Surturz ( talk) 02:55, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
I don't know anything about them off the top of my head. I had a look, and found this singularly unhelpful link, but then struck gold with this. Looks like Arnold Wienholt might get a little expanded as well! Frickeg ( talk) 23:57, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
-- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 00:58, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
Sir, It has come to our attentin you edit patterns reflect a certain, um, lack of the afforementioned - it is in our own experience that lack of the particular item can bring on various patterns that might make your capacity to be a long distance truck driver somewhat more possible than editing political history tables .... Satu Suro 02:17, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello there - what do you make of this? -- Merbabu ( talk) 12:41, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Surturz appears to be up to his old tricks... Timeshift ( talk) 11:01, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
In May 2008, the Asylum Seeker Resource Centre said the Department of Immigration and Citizenship was rejecting asylum seeker applications at a higher rate than under the previous government, saying 41 of 42 applications had been rejected. [1] Evans claimed a denial rate of 77 percent, based on his acknowledgment that of a caseload of 730 appeals, he has intervened in 170. [2]
Um, I was working on expanding some of these articles, slowly - see Port Gawler, South Australia, Price, South Australia and Yeelanna, South Australia (please restore this article). You may want to delete Category:Suburbs of Whyalla given that it is now (virtually) empty.
I understand and sympathise with your actions (as you can tell from my post on AWNB) but don't you think you may have left a message on AWNB given there were plans there to expand these stubs? -- Mattinbgn\ talk 01:28, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Sorry about creating any that were not notable i really did mean well i will be sure that id I create more I will make sure to find more sources. I admit i was rushing through creating a lot without properly looking at the reference. I just have one request is that if you delete anymore just to notify me because it was a surprise going through my list and seeing a lot of red links. I have also left this message on the Australian Wikipedians' notice board. Cheers. Kyle 1278 04:31, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for looking into this. Re this, I guess this was the right thing to do. If not, please revert me. I'm sure it was written some where, that edits of blocked users/socks can be removed. regards -- Merbabu ( talk) 22:57, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
User:Joe Hockey. huh? -- Merbabu ( talk) 02:46, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello. I just wanted to let you know you can unprotect Jimmy Nail if you want to. I didn't know about the e-mail to the legal department. All I saw was someone removing properly referenced material from an article. After seeing your edit summary I'll assume you have more information on this matter than I do and will accept the deletions as being proper. The article no longer needs to be protected. Thank you, and happy editing! 152.16.16.75 ( talk) 00:30, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for remind, so according the WP:LIVING other editors alreadly remove the information-- Mys 721tx ( talk) 18:41, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Please explain why the Wikipedia: Deletion policy (WP:DEL) was not followed, deleting this page on the same day it was listed in Articles for Deletion. "The discussion lasts at least seven full days." Also, the protection of the page from recreation after improvement seems highly excessive. Please explain this as well. Crickmanzz ( talk) 21:08, 30 December 2009 (UTC)