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For not losing your nerves when dealing with fanatical and disruptive editors. « Hiram111Δ TalK Δ |
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And thanks for your hard work on Islamic related articles.« Hiram111Δ TalK Δ 10:45, 2 August 2008 (UTC) |
Cunado never contacted us back. I will leave this up to you: User_talk:Enzuru/ConstitutionIslam -- Enzuru 08:07, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I recollect a small touch on the subject of Qur'an recitals with you (female Qurr'a in particular) on some article's talk page (I think t'was Talk:Allah probably...(?)). Was wondering if there's any article here on WP dealing with the the various styles of Qiraat, thought maybe you'd be able to say for sure. 'Abd el 'Azeez ( talk) 07:20, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
I moved the above microrant from your userpage. Aramgar ( talk) 15:33, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
I read your discussion with I forgot his name. But in that conversation you made references to me being a bigot, excuse me? First I'm Jewish and Persian. I don't think I mean to rag on myself, but most Jews are Ashkenazi. Oh and that video I posted is not a White Power video, it is called Ring of Power and it doesn't focus on Jews its focus is on the illuminati and how it started and where it is at now. Ymay have some knowledge on semitics, but your clearly not in tune with Hyksos, and that is fine, because I'm sure you have made some great edits elsewhere, but keep out of something that you don't know, I'm going to find some sources and cram them in there just for you and people like you. Let me give you a piece of advice- you have been taught to get sources from where?? if your smart and I think you are, than you should know that alot of our history books are biased and incorrect and have been adjusted for a "cause" who's sources. If you have ever taken Journalism courses than you should know that its only correct to get sources and opposing views. this type of incorrect logic makes for biased news in favor of "those" who make it, because as a good journalist you need your sources to appease the masses. well let me tell you then that we have brains and we have a right to make a judgement based on facts and the just course of those facts that lead to a just answer. and people like you are only inciting the status quo of an undermining design, conceived before you or me were born, so stop being so closed minded, because you come across as such and that is so not kosher. your brainwashed by someone telling you that what you have accomplished is correct and that is not healthy, you need to leave that behind and help it help you grow. and i love ranting and raving because people can be so close-minded its funny and scary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Binkytheclown2 ( talk • contribs) 14:53, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Pleased to meet you. I agree with you that Din-i-Ilahi is a Persian word not arabic as this Anonmoos has been saying & vandalising the page with. I've added citations and all the citations and britannica says its a Persian word. Please revert any changes made by this Anonmoos or any other vandal on the page and put it in your watchlist and revert if he strikes again. As a last resort, if vandalism continues, get the wiki admins involved. Best regards.-- James smith2 ( talk) 19:02, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Good day Emily, need to know why is my comment being deleted? You claim that I am vandalising the data on this site. Aren't Islamists vandalising the world? Well leave aside the argument. The account of my content is true according to old Hindu scriptures which state and history also agrees that Muhammad destroyed 360 idols that pagans (which is actually Vedic era people worshipped). If he vandalised those people's religion which was, is and will be the truth why is posting truth vandalisation. Need an explanation for this... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Josh7798 ( talk • contribs) 07:51, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
my name is Syed Ansar Ali ,live in Karachi,Pakistan.i have passed B.com exam.,and have handsome knowledge in Arabic language.my idea was{about giving a name}that the names of Allah the God,we know are a few of His uncounted names.first i ask you why we human name a person or thing?.. undoubtly for his quality, characters like..beautiful,ugly,deaf,blind ext. and his actions like speaking,killing,writing,publishing ext.Now we can drive or give names after above mentioned words,{ beautiful:a beautiful boy},{ugly: an ugly dog},{deaf: a deaf man}{blind: a blind woman}all these words beautiful, ugly ,deaf, blind are characters of human being and also are names of human being similarly we can drive from [killing: killer],[speaking:speaker],[writing:writer]and [publishing:publisher] now i think you have an idea about naming a person or you can say to give a name to a person.conclusion is that the same mechanism{of giving names}is applicable for Allah' character and actions{deeds} now i will give an example from Quran.. 'second chapter,verse no.07'from Arab.[ الختّام" ختم "]Eng.[stamping"stamper"]'second chapter,verse no 17 from arb.[التارك "ترك "]Eng.[leaving"leaver" or one who leaves]from above mentioned examples you better understand how we can give a name to a thing, person or Allah the God. Ansarhashmi ( talk) 08:15, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Haha, I remember when that was posted. Good times, but after the fact it just seems blasphemous. Anyway, I am still stirring up controversy, please see this:
They are trying to take my precious redesign away from me, and looks like I am going to lose. Vote to keep it. -- Enzuru 22:44, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
If you have time to listen and help, please listen to me read the Twelve Imams article right here, thank you. My pronunciation needs lots of work, and I'm guessing you are probably alot better off than me when it comes to pronouncing things. -- Enzuru 07:31, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
I've posted a comment on Matulchandra... I don't think it's plausible to post it for translation, but I defer to your more experienced judgment if, given the state of the page in question, it is in fact necessary. I commented under the deletion discussion about this but wanted to just poke you for input. ناهد𒀭(dAnāhita) 𒅴 15:57, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
This may be able to help you. As for this group, I have had difficulty in finding information about specific Kharijite sects, but there is a funny coincidence in history that like the three major branches or something were named after colours. Straight as a rainbow I guess. -- Enzuru 22:01, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I dont know if I should converse in Persian or not.
I'm here to ask you for your help, since I know you know more than I do, about a problem I'm having on the Ahvaz talk page:
User "Zora", has been constantly trying to attach the origins of Ahvaz to Arabs (in support of the recent unrests of Arab separatists in Khuzestan in the news).
She claims Ahvaz is an Arab name, and claims that Elamites have no connections to the Persians, hence invalidating any claims of Iranian-ness of the Khuzestan province, from a historical perspective. She says there are no etymological connections between today's Iran and the pre-Arab one.
She is basically trying to re-write the page.
Az komak e shomaa dar oonjaa nahaayat e sepaas ro daaram.-- Zereshk 04:09, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
If you have time and are so inclined to get involved, I would like to request your continued input in the discussion pages of the Khuzestan and Ahvaz articles, for the same reasons as Zereshk has outlined above. Zora has persisted and has once again declared her intention to rewrite the articles to fit her pan-Arabist agenda (drawn from propaganda websites naturally). Thank you. SouthernComfort 21:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
I wasn't referring to that as speculation (although, if one were to be pedantic, Augustine actually says they call themselves rather than their language Chanani, doesn't he?); I just moved it from the text to the infobox, and didn't think it should be in two places. And incidentally, thanks for your improvements to the article! I love it when an article I've been feeling guilty about not expanding gets expanded by someone else. - Mustafaa 04:04, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I was looking at Uzza and become confused; I found there the same question I was about to ask, without clarification: Talk:Uzza#3?. Can you explain this? Cheers, Hv 20:53, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
In the text of the article Sahaba, you substituted for the letter "s" in "sahaba" a character which doesn't display properly on my screen; it just looks like a square. (See here.) What is that character supposed to be? Is it in Unicode? -- Metropolitan90 02:12, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
You've been making some interesting transliteration changes. For instance you made Shafi'i into Šāfiˤǐ which is a transliteration I have never seen before. Most academic articles I ahve read use something close to Shafi'i. I know linguistically that's correct... but we must refer to it how they would encyclopedically. You've also made many drastic changes without edit summaries or explanation. I don't want to discourage good work but I do want to encourage communication... gren グレン ? 05:45, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
For instance, on this diff why the semi-colon after Turkish (unlinking language) and Azeri? The Azerbaijani language? You also added "Constantly being prosecuted and massacred by the Ottomans on account that they followed Shi'a Islam, the Kızılbaş fled to Iran." which seems like a very strong statement to make. Constantly persecuted? Can you explain this all some. You've been making a lot of substantive changes and they may all be for the better... but it's a good idea to be wary of such changes. gren グレン ? 05:57, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
For Tabriz you changed it to Tæbriz which I have rarely seen used. Täbriz is much moreso used but still we must place some importance on common English renderings. What do you use to decide these renderings? gren グレン ? 06:00, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English). -- Khoikhoi 23:21, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi Emily, no offense intended but I have noticed that you have substituted common name spelling in the Alaouite Dynasty for instance, with what I understand is a phonetic spelling, do you think this is really judicious ? while this may appeal to academic circles, Wikipedia's intended audience is rather the general population ! this might bring some confusion, I am not talking about search engine failing to find those spelling !-- Khalid hassani 13:38, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Is there any specific reason why you insist on phonetic spelling of Arabic terms in Qadi? Based on Talk:Ulema, I thought there was already a consensus on that matter. Pecher Talk 20:59, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for experimenting with the page Plato on Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Scott Grayban 21:05, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
Doroud Nahid jan and thanks for copy editing Simurgh. Best wishes. Amir85 19:06, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
Could you add more edit summaries? with saved fields in the box it won't be too much effort pasting in "change diacritics" or something... but, it could be useful on edits where it's not as clear. Just to differentiate between copyediting and content change or removal would be useful. Thanks. gren グレン 09:21, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
Why have you changed all that spellings?! a quick google search [1] shows no other page on internet with that spelling. Please do not change it back. Thanks, -- - K a s h Talk | email 11:28, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi can you tell me what transliteration system you are using? For example in Ayatollah. Thanks! Cam 17:42, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm trusting that you're right and Chaldean is wrong on the etymology. You want me to back you up with reverts? I've generally stayed out of that article, but I'd like to keep it accurate. Zora 05:54, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
As a userbox fan of FLCL, would you be willing to vote for its nomination at Wikipedia's Article Improvement Drive? If elected, it will be the subject of a week-long overhaul, in an attempt to pass in to Featured Article status! Thanks, Litefantastic 16:13, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi Emily
Perhaps you can help me a bit with a series of articles on Punic Carthage. I'm involved in the milhist project and so my focus is on the Punic Wars and Punic military forces(Carthage had a low level of power centralisation and was more an agglomeration of powerful dynasties. Carthage's nobility could and did have private armies operating on their own. So this was the best name I could think of.) Perhaps you could help me with a bit of background information on the subject. For example the tin supply(the Atlantic route seems to have lost importance with the advent of Celts in Gaul, Hannibal possibly tried/established a traderoute along the Garonne River and Auronne River, leaving only Massilia's Rhone route not under Carthage's control) would be interesting for the Second Punic War. For the First Punic War and Mercenary War the rural economy of Northern Africa would be of interest and perhaps some info on Canaanite tax system, etc. At the moment I have read some books and continue reading some and it clearly shows that more non-milhist background could really help to better understand these subjects. For example I try to find out more about legal forms such as the Berkit which was possibly Hannibal's treaty with Macedon and Hasdrubal the Fair's with Rome. It would have discontinued with the end of the respective strategus office, unless ratified by a supreme state authority(This way Polybius version about the Roman envoys travelling back and forth between Iberia and Carthage would make sense and there is a dispute of historians about this, but I feel not safe enough to throw it into the article without more background checks. The Punic Wars and Carthage's forces seem to attract a special clientel of editors who almost rape the sources to push a POV but they don't dare to touch well sourced material.)
Yes, I know that' lots of detail, so simply if you have any idea how to help me highlight the background of these things or improve information on the Punic culture I would be very grateful. Wandalstouring 15:44, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I was just wondering why you paced a welcome template on User:Jeeny. The user isn't a new user, and is in fact, a user who has been indefinitely blocked. - Rjd0060 ( talk) 23:55, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Hey there! I noticed you've been making good contributions to some Islam related articles. I also noticed your comment regarding the aqidah article regarding the Ismaili movement. Amongst the majority of Muslim scholars, the Ismailis have always been regarded as being a separate religion from Islam - this is actually one of the few things both Sunnis and Shias seem to agree on. I believe though that by the standards of Wikipedia they are generally included in discissions on Muslims. Hope that helps! MezzoMezzo ( talk) 14:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
This is the only warning you will receive for your disruptive edits.
The next time you delete or blank page contents or templates from Wikipedia, as you did to
Druze, you will be
blocked from editing.
well the IP address 63.216.113.124 is getting on my nerves.So while looking at "its" contributions I found out that "it" dropped you a silly vandalism warning, so after looking at his note I wrongfully pasted the vandalism warning addressed to "it" on your talk page but undid it later.
Anyway I would like to take the chance to thank you for your hard work and contributions. And I hope that malicious users like this IP address would get a hobby soon.My best regards for you and all the serious editors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hiram111 ( talk • contribs) 00:18, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I have left a comment for you here [2]. I am not online that much so the discussion may take some time.
Cheers,
-- Be happy!! ( talk) 08:50, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Emilyzilch, I noticed this edit to your user page from an IP. Out of curiosity, is that you, or a vandal? I couldn't tell very easily, hence my question. Thanks. Acalamari 22:24, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
I saw the usage of Allat in a published source with my own eyes for the first time. It is in one of the quotes here [3]. Cheers, -- Be happy!! ( talk) 03:34, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the compliment. I'm pleased you enjoy the article. If you feel it needs improvement, please contribute. -- Fyslee / talk 06:02, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Hey i put my reason up for my views, im 99 percent sure there is no muslim assyrians, the ones that got converted during the invasion of arabia into mesopotamia have no assyrian blood they are arabs and dont consider them selfs assyrian, there is no assyrian muslim group that has its own flag,not enough reliable sources to prove that there is such thing as muslim assyrians —Preceding unsigned comment added by 55yy55hh ( talk • contribs) 17:44, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
Hey there, my sister in humanity.
When I was active I used to do tons of work on heretical groups, and defending them from the mainstream, which is kind of odd since I'm jaw-droppingly orthodox Twelver. I pretty much wrote the Ismaili article, as well as organized the articles on that branch. Anyway, I see you are doing the same. Just some pointers:
If you have anymore questions, feel free to ask sister. And on a personal note, commenting on your userboxes, my two best friends are 'LBGT' themselves. -- Enzuru 03:26, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I just have reverted. In my opinion it is enough to reference onto " Dailam" for further information. This is what the experts at Encyclopaedia Iranica also do. is it ok for you? NPOVfan ( talk) 16:57, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I've had similar issues with the editor on other articles. I filed an incident report on the Administrators' noticeboard, but apparently they were all too busy at the time to go through my diffs and reply. I'll try to get involved on this page and help resolve the disputes. ← George [ talk 23:54, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure what can be done, but I'm assuming the 3-minute window will be ignored due to his consistent (and recent) history of revert-warring. I've linked to one of his 3RR warnings. I'm not an admin, so you'll have to wait until one reviews your request. I'm expecting a block, though.-- Koji Dude (C) 22:53, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
I've noticed your defense of that article against the recent POV it's been slapped with by some anons. You're doing a good job, sometimes it's good to hear that from fellow editors. :) MezzoMezzo ( talk) 04:32, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
What are you talking about? En Ne talk 02:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Left a note on his talk page. Khoi khoi 03:14, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Hello, Ogress. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The discussion is about the topic of you. Thank you. -- lifebaka ( talk - contribs) 04:16, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I'm concerned about your understanding of wikipedia policy, please take a look at my response here WP:BLP/N#Sonja Elen Kisa Nil Einne ( talk) 06:13, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
biruni was a persian man that you must know that persian peoples and even non persian peoples like turks living in iran now and uzbekistan is a modern country that established from 1921 and in 1991 became an independent country. russian created this country after the russian occupiation and tajik populated locations such as bukhara, samarghand , khawrezm and etc forcibly combined to uzbekistan for political reasons that russians dont want an tajiki-persian-iranian power in that region. this location first named bactriana and then became a permanent part of persia until russian conquest. do you know after the islamic conqust of persia(iran) , iran became a part of abbassid khalifate? do you know whole people of that region in that time identified them as iranian? do you know persia is a western word for the region of iran? do you know iranian atleast before the islamic conquest at the time of sassanids called their region iran(eeraan). do you know you could not calling saint persons like imam ali as vampire. you can respect to these persons. even you dont like them you cant affront them. if you are a sunni or christian or jew or zoroastrian,i cant affront to saint people of all religions.i like all of the religions and prophets. specially i like zoroastrians , zoroastrianism originated from iran(persia). at the end thank you for your good message.( Kanowini ( talk) 13:02, 1 September 2008 (UTC))
If I'm reading this correctly, you recently made a request at Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Altai Khan. Any chance you could explain, in brief, why you believe the user you mentioned is a sockpuppet? Or, alternatively, why you asked for a checkuser investigation? – Luna Santin ( talk) 22:06, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
I think we lost that one, I'll just use the template for Islamic Art/in India (or do you have another idea?) Anyway, when you find Yazid to be an upright caliph, how the hell can you expect to get your colours right and arrange furniture? Bad taste is bad taste, no matter what area in life it is. Metrosexual Shi'a FTW. -- Enzuru 03:00, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
To : emily zilch or nahed sarvy, read this lined very good u seem to be very ignorant of irans history
You are not iranian and you dont know the least about the history of iran, the word and the nation of iran has existed since 3000 years ago, thats why in shahnameh, the national epic of iran, which is writen 1100 years ago the name iran is mentioned more than 1500 times, and you say rumi or mowlana predates iran and he livd before iran? rumi lived 800 years ago, iran and the name iran has existed for 3000 years. but the western name of iran until 1935 was persia until western world decided to call the country by its native name WHICH HAS BEEN USED BY IRANIANS FOR 3000 YEARS.Do u understand NOW???????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cilbup ( talk • contribs) 22:25, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Fuck off. WP:MOSISLAM mentions "pbuh" and "as", not titles, you idiot. Are "king", "prince" and "duke" honorifics? Again, fuck off.
RUMI OR MOWLANA WAS IRANIAN AND BELONGS TO IRAN, AND YOU ARE SAYING HE LIVED BEFORE IRAN AND HE WAS NOT IRANIAN, HAHAHA, YOU ARE AN IGNORANT OF THE HISTORY OF IRAN
To : emily zilch or nahed sarvy
Search for shahnameh on the net, shahnameh is the national epic of Iran, it was writen for 1100 years ago, in this epic the word iran is mentioned 1500 times to refer to the country.Why did you say mowlana or rumi was not iranian and why did u say he lived before iran? u should learn more about the history of iran.but Now u know that iran as a name and as a nation has existed for 3000 year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cilbup ( talk • contribs) 22:37, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Help! -- Enzuru 00:19, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
I should've said it earlier, Ramadan mubarak dude. There are some cool duas here you can recite. -- Enzuru 22:38, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
'Aql a real article? That's sweet. And that's a pretty cool add-on, right now I am using Opera for no reason, I should switch back to Firefox. -- Enzuru 04:54, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
To Emilyzilch from Soleado ( talk) 21:13, 13 September 2008 (UTC): I don't understand in what is wrong in having Aqidah spelled as Aqeedah. The reason I moved the page was that the word Aqeedah is not pronounced as Aqidah. As I've read about you on your Wikipedia page, you are a linguistic. I assume you know that Aqidah and Aqeedah are pronounced two different ways if read in Roman-Arabic.
I considered taking out man & woman and making the last line link to homosexuality, but it's yours now. Template:User Whatever -- Enzuru 01:22, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. And as long as I can be a bigot to other denominations of Muslims I can live happily. But, conversely because of the stress of the situation, I refuse to be with anyone orthodox, so I'm going to Turkey or Albania and picking up an Alevi-Bektashi there (all we have in Los Angeles are Armenians and Shah-supporters). And wow, yurts, that's pretty hardcore. -- Enzuru 08:56, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
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Removing racism/religious prejudice from your page. Wikipedia attracts a large Shia community as well and your comments could be of great concern to them (I don't know about Sunnis). There's already enough garbage present around us in this world. So pls don't litter Wikipedia with some! Let it remain that clean as people think of it. Pls help promote a MULTICULTURAL environment on Wikipedia. Read the guidelines section once again to see what Wikipedia expects from the users.
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The man in discussion was not an ordinary person who served his whole life for the preaching's of Islam and made significant impact on the life of Muslims to lead their life for peace and love with the human kind. There are more than 100 books he has written down during his life for the welfare of humanity to learn exactly what islam is. So in no way a page from Wikipedia can be deleted which provides information about a person with such contribution to his religion where millions of people followed his teachings to lead their life according to what exactly islam teaches to its followers. He also started free healthcare camps for eye treatment at his place Darul-Ehsan where thousands of poor people got their eyes treated twice in a year. This year on 16th of Ramadan there was his 11th death anniversary which was attended by around 1 million people.
You are requested to make this page available for people to find firsthand knowledge about this legend of islam. Azam Ishaque 09:31, 30 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Azamishaque ( talk • contribs)
I usually correspond with Klakky via e-mail, I've been trying to make him a respectable member for quite sometime. Despite this, he still calls me an Ismaili. Anyway, we need to get admins on this, or maybe run for adminship or something. -- Enzuru 21:24, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks sis, I just, want to feel right again. The happiness of realization hits first, and then the realization of how awful the situation hits second. -- Enzuru 07:00, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Branch > Denomination! -- Enzuru 17:39, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
They're so communicative! -- Enzuru 23:13, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
This may not have been your intention, but what you recently did at Talk:Geber was de-archiving, not archiving. You essentially moved all the previously archived discussions from the archive page back into the main talk page. You probably just made a mistake, so I've reverted your edits there. - kotra ( talk) 00:56, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- kotra ( talk) 07:28, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know what happened to my talk comment on the Dorset/Sadlermiut question. Seeing you're from RI, I wonder if you are aware that a couple of the more important archaeological collections pertaining to Eskimo prehistory (Cape Krusenstern and Onion Portage)are actually at the Arctic lab at the Haffenreffer Museum in Bristol (now closed pending relocation), though they rarely go on display.
I'd really like to see the whole Dorset article rewritten, but preferably by a Canadian archaeologist since they would most likely be up-to-date on recent unpublished finds.
Surprisingly, while there are entries on, e.g., Independence I and Saqqaq, there is no entry on Pre-Dorset, though it is the earliest culture in most of the Eastern Canadian Arctic and probably ancestral to -- but clearly distinct from -- Dorset. Wonder why?
Cheers, -- Death Bredon ( talk) 11:51, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Could you check what you might have been thinking when you duplicated the {{islam}} template in Hajj? I see you were reverting vandalism just prior, and maybe you thought it had been deleted? Problem is that previously it aligned with the TOC, as seen here, but now after someone deleted "the wrong duplicate" it looks weird, or at least "less good". I think I'm going to reverse back to the way it was. Could you check it out? Shenme ( talk) 04:20, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
O hai! 72.70.84.164 ( talk) 21:46, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
I have nominated Talk:Imamah (Shi'a twelver doctrine) ( | article | history | links | watch | logs) for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. ناهد/(Nåhed) speak! 23:48, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your message [4] on my talk page. I have blocked all of the IPs recently used for vandalism and also temporarily protected both Shia Islam and {{ Shia Islam}}. Please let me know if there is anything else I can do to help. -- Kralizec! ( talk) 01:37, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Here ya go! You can't rotate through code, but you can rotate through Paint or even the image viewer on Windows! -- Enzuru 18:35, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Emily. What's up with that picture of Nosferatu on your userpage. I have noticed that it tends to be a lightning rod for vandals. As one also interested in Shia Islam, especially Alevism, I am having a some trouble understanding the caption. Could you explain it to me. Your colleague from the other side of the Muddy Water, Aramgar ( talk) 18:03, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Malang is a very interesting phrase. You can only find it mentioned by Shi'a, primarily youth I believe, like if you go to any Shi'a forums or things like that. I have never found it in scholarly literature, but it is a term that really needs to be defined. A malang is often confused with an Akhbari (sometimes they call themselves Akhbari to be more legitimate). Basically, a malang is a Shi'a who is Punjabi, Sindhi, or Seraiki (maybe some other ethnic groups of this exist). These ethnic groups for some reason have a form of Shi'a Islam that is more like Alevism than proper Jafari (Usuli, Akhbari, or Shaykhi). They make up I think a majority of Pakistan's Shi'a population, with the proper Shi'a groups generally being muhajir from India. They don't have any formal fiqh or anything that I know of, I believe they were introduced to Shi'a beliefs by Shi'i missionaries (Sufis), but perhaps like the Alevi, did not get the fiqh and other things that generally goes along with orthodox Shi'asm. They have beliefs taken from Hinduism such as a sayeda cannot marry a non-sayed man, but a sayed man can marry a sayeda women. They have hadith (in Urdu from what I've seen, maybe they took it from Arab sources originally) stating that whoever mourns Husayn (AS) during Muharram their sins will be forgiven by Fatimah (AS), and I believe this is sometimes used to justify their lack of prayer and other fiqh laws. Since they do not have formal fiqh they don't have any formal banning of self-hitting, so it is prominent among them, and may tie in with being forgiven for their transgressions. I believe they also share the Ismaili book of hadith that is in the Urdu language, Qalam-e-Mowla.
What is absolutely startling to me is that I have never seen scholarly sources pinpoint that these ethnic groups, which make up a bulk of Pakistan's Shi'a population, have a form of Shi'a Islam that is completely different from orthodox beliefs that can be found among Arabs, Iranians, and Indians. Most Shi'a in the West understand this important difference among South Asian Shi'a. Apparently the name malang, no one even knows why they use it, not even South Asians (my dad I think told me it was an insulting phrase, but I know they themselves use it). Nobody mentions the beliefs of these groups nor the fact they exist. I have no idea why this is to this day, though I've speculated that most scholars just see it as a folk understanding of Shi'a Islam rather than a separate sect (and that might be true). It's almost as if an entire sect of Shi'asm has been lost to scholarly literature. -- Enzuru 21:39, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Hello :) Good to hear from you. The quote that i edited might be considered offensive by some readers, therefore instead of removing the whole quotation, i modified it so that it doesn't sound offensive, as no one will like his/her religion being dubbed as "drama". It actually affected the neutrality of an otherwise very good article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pirateofmars ( talk • contribs) 13:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
I wonder if I might persuade you or someone you know to take a look at a caption which probably needs to be tweaked a bit?
Italian Admiral Ernesto Burzagli was honored with the Order of Ouissam Alaouite; and an image of the paper which accompanied the award of badge and ribbon was posted at Wikicommons. I've posted the image of that certificate/diploma in both articles, but I'm a little uncertain about the caption. I wonder about the word dahir and its somewhat unsatisfactory link to a disambiguation page. This somewhat inadequate wiki-formatting choice was informed by the first paragraph of Berber Dahir.
When I noticed your edit to Alaouite Dynasty, it crossed my mind that you might be willing to help polish the rough edges I'm unable to resolve more elegantly? -- Tenmei ( talk) 14:20, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
Did they think we were gonna fall for a little nick change? -- Enzuru 17:55, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
they show theories which have been blown to pieces by the chinese ditors on that talk page, if you actually read the whole thing which i doubt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.155.151.117 ( talk) 02:57, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
then is deleting blatant misinformation allowed by wiki policy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.155.151.117 ( talk) 03:34, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
one of the sections is clearly blatant misinformation, and can be pointed out easily since the articles creater is a korean. apparenlyl almost one year ago a korean said hed find a source on the talk page. he did not, so im deleting that section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.155.151.117 ( talk) 03:37, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
I made my Chinese friend on it! And it hasn't been deleted as overly racist yet! Go me! I'm Enzutwo on it by the way (in one of the strangest experiences ever, not only was my very rare nick taken for one of the first times in my life, it was taken on the first day the game came out). But, I kinda got out of it after I got to the space stage like most people. I need to justify that fifty dollars, so I'll get back into it. I'm going to try to make a Salafi. -- Enzuru 03:10, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
I made a small update to Template:Ismailism. Perhaps you with your transliteration prowess may want to fix things up, put complex accent marks, and so forth. -- Enzuru 23:37, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
The pre-Islamic link between Kaaba and Hinduism is subject to extensive debate and even Muslims do not deny it. The Pagans referred to as using the Kaaba before Islam are most probably Hindus. Any rudimentary search on google will tell this. Please keep my update and add references as I dont know how to do the same.
Thanks Waseem —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.43.110.59 ( talk) 06:40, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I think we have a mutual problem with the above IP who is aggresively pushing his/her POV, and has broken the 3R rule. Any ideas what to do next?-- Sikh-history ( talk) 08:00, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
I hate historical revisionism, I hate historical revisionism, I hate historical revisionism... -- Enzuru 22:28, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply. Zomputer ( talk) 20:25, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
So, I've been keeping my little eye out on the Wahhabism article, and it's just awful. Why do we have an article for a virtual boogeyman again? This is ridiculous. Anyway, help out here with what sources we should use. -- Enzuru 23:25, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
What do you think on how I've changed the Imam templates around? Start at Hasan ibn Ali and work your way around to see how it is organized. -- Enzuru 02:43, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh, and I thought you'd enjoy this. From Talk:Ruhollah Khomeini.
Smear? I didn't you say anyone in particular was a "deletionist." That's your interpretation I was talking about you. You're engaged in Original Research!!! -- BoogaLouie ( talk) 17:39, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
-- Enzuru 01:16, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Please provide evidence. OhanaUnited Talk page 16:06, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Those two IPs you mentioned on Klakky's page, for now, have been mentioned here. Let's continue our assumption that the IP and Klakky are two different characters for now. They are completely different in their other vandalism not concerning us, it just seems they share a common interest in some points. -- Enzuru 04:33, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
I will revert his actions if you or someone else hasn't already to keep it neutral. You should make it a point in the case that he vandalized the case, that may help speedy up the process. Thanks DJS -- DJS 24 20:13, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Your comment here was appreciated as even I wasn't aware that Muslims can/do eat Kosher. Regards, -- RoadAhead =Discuss= 20:40, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
While I'm all for noting Ibn Sina and Rumi's cultural heritage as Persian, it seems many editors try to hide the fact that they were born (or from) what is today Afghanistan, so they go through great lengths saying, " Persian Empire in what is today Iran even though it was called Persia, Shahu akbar," and so forth. The Afghani editors, the ones that haven't fallen prey to Pan-Iranism yet at least, are generally more correct in calling them Afghani, except that is against scholarly consensus since if we look at the entry on what Persian technically means, the Tajik and other Farsiwan of Afghanistan are included. So... it's a tough issue. Just remember, any edit made in good faith isn't vandalism, or so Elonka told me to keep in mind. So, those people who change the Shi'a article and say we're kaffir, that is being made in good faith, unlike the ones who just delete the article and link to pictures of penises. -- Enzuru 00:25, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Well i am not sure why you placed back in what i had taken out in the first section. there are absolutley no citations with it and the second paragraph of the intro seems to be quite single minded to me with out have supporting material.
I am not sure however why you deleted my infomation about Umm Waraqa? there is nothing really writen on the hadith in this article, they just briefly mention it with out giving any explanation to the possibility...isn't that not giving both sides of the story?
Ktewhitney ( talk) 03:33, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi. You've nominated the same article twice here. I don't know which nomination you'd like to remove, so I'll leave it to you. - Richard Cavell ( talk) 22:30, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
That's too l33t for me. -- Enzuru 18:48, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
User:Redappletree reported you to WP:AIV a few hours ago. I declined the report, as you're obviously not a vandal. I suspected Redappletree is a sock of some kind, but in reviewing his edit to Alevi, it appears you've done something puzzling, and his revert of your last edit there might actually make sense. At first you reverted an IP removing a lot of text, but lately you've been deleting it yourself, reverting back to the IP's version. Is this what you wanted to do? Is it a Twinkle goof? I think re-adding the material was correct. If you delete it again, please explain in the edit summary or on the talk page. Thanks. -- barneca ( talk) 17:32, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
hi. i have edited again the women as imams page and tried to take into consideration my writing style. i found it interseting that you thought i was going against women leading women in prayers because i was trying to look at it objectively, and i don't think i added my own opinion in there becuase your perception does not match up with my opinion. if you could give me anyother suggestions i would really appriciate it! thanks.
( Ktewhitney ( talk) 19:36, 14 December 2008 (UTC))
Please vote on this issue. Thanks! -- Enzuru 03:43, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Just dropping by to say hello. My apologies for being completely green about talkbacks. PinkWorld ( talk) 02:46, 25 December 2008 (UTC)Pink
Sigh, Emsters, do you remember the good old days, when vandals would spell, and think out their vandalism? =( Things ain't like they used to be, hun. In the meantime, I'm thinking about changing my signature to IsmailiVandal. -- Enzuru 10:27, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Happy new Year, May you get many more in the coming Year. GOD Bless You, Wishing All your Dream Comes True Azam Ishaque 09:17, 2 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Azamishaque ( talk • contribs)
Hi there, Ogress. Regarding the Druze Islam category issue, what I meant was that the Islam category page has a tag at the top of the page saying that articles should be moved into subcategories as appropriate. Reason: Everyone dumps any article whatsoever to do with Islam in the main category page. This results in too many articles on the main category page (not to mention the problem of which articles deserve more preference than others). Only the most important articles such as, Allah, Muhammad, Sunnah etc. should be place in the main category page. I have been battling with this ongoing problem for a few years and, as the tag rightly says, the page needs constant maintenance. I hope this clarifies the issue. Thanks. :) MP ( talk• contribs) 18:41, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for deleting the vandalism on that one page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PinkWorld ( talk • contribs) 08:44, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
I've been fighting this battle. He's agreed to rewrite, do you mind creating the sandbox along with a short (sourced!) blurb? I don't want do it lest I cause controversy. -- ♥ pashtun ismailiyya 08:51, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
salam How on earth did you come to be so good at spelling? Mashallah! Btw, should the ya at the end of Tabataba'i have the double dot below? PinkWorld ( talk) 02:32, 18 January 2009 (UTC)Pink
Thanks to sister PinkWorld, we have this lovely text file: WikiShiaIslamSrcTxt.txt, this could really help renovate that article completely. -- ♥ pashtun ismailiyya 22:44, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
assalamu `alaykum
*major-league huge blush* It has a gazillion typos. By the time that my ancient browser loaded this page with my ancient computer on the ancient modem, I forgot what I was actually going to say.
PinkWorld (
talk)
14:34, 22 January 2009 (UTC)Pink
I just wanted to let yo know that the information on Salman Fars is Fradulent on wikipedia. I have original proof written in Farsi/Tajiki about his biography. I had already edited the page, but yout took off my edit. I really do not think its fair. The book i have is not in english but is very old. I demand that the correct information about him being processed. See my firend, Salman was a zorastrian, he scaped from his temple in balkh. Then he went to Saudi Arabia, He knew Arabic, So he became a translator there. Think about it. Who better than him to translate a religion to persian, where the persians trusted him so much. I want youto think about it, Mohammed was smart, now if you were mohammed and you wanted to promote your religion, wouldnt you need a translator and a translator with a previous knowledge of a background religion (zorast) with lots of scientific support from it. yeah you would. now what hurts is that all of us got killed, tortured, and mass murdered by islam, and now we can even face the truth. Salman knew the weakpoints of zorasts, think about it, deeply. Peace was our weakpoint, peace. ask anyone who is 50 years of age or older from afghanistan of iran, they know, cause they read the correct history backhome. the problem is that these books were burnt, all our books so that the truth doesnt come out. Thank yo very much for yout consideration —Preceding unsigned comment added by Motlagh ( talk • contribs) 14:08, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, there is something i need to know. Regarding the article Muhammad's wives, its more appropriate when one includes Prophet before his name because thats how his name is to be pronounced. Please look forward to the issue —Preceding unsigned comment added by Syedatif ( talk • contribs) 17:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Where are all these pretentious editors coming from? -- ♥ pashtun ismailiyya 10:17, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
assalamu `alaykum wa rahmatullah What is macron? Is it that phonics spelling that appears as little boxes on my old computer? PinkWorld ( talk) 05:46, 9 February 2009 (UTC)Pink
I wonder why you edited entry on Yezidi and their Indian origin including the similarity of Murugan's vehicle and the Peacock King.
Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 15:57, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Hey I do not know how long this game of switching lights on and off will go on. There is not a line of originality in my edit. A link to the site from which the information is taken is given as a reference.
Please read carefully before jumping to conclusions. I wonder what the smash! is for, I did not know that Wikipedia had a queen bee that refered to herself in plural. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 19:57, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
I am not an expert on language nor on theology or Indology or for that matter any logy.
There is not a word which I have invented and I am not referring to dasni but the similarity with Murugan, I have not put one and one together as you allege. To make it easier for you here is the link which is from a Yezidi site which compares the Peacock king with Murugan or his vehicle.
The link:
http://www.yeziditruth.org/the_peacock_angel
Unless you have a reference with better authority kindly restore the article as it was edited by me.
It is 2.00 am local time (almost) and I need to go. In the switch on and off game, the score is one - love in your favour. I need to go
Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 20:24, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
My edit seems to be left as I had done it. I just was peeved by the "we cannot allow editors part..."
The above link is referred as number 7 in my edit.
Do we always need to be very formal? I am sorry for hurting you.
I am a dummy as far as Wikipedia goes, how do you give an indent on the talk page? Sorry for using a line as a seperater.
Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 20:35, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 21:15, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 14:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
assalamu `alaykum wa rahmatullah, sister
Some guy thinks that he is going to take over the restructuring of the article. Can you have a look, please?
PinkWorld (
talk)
05:08, 12 February 2009 (UTC)Pink
Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 04:53, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Synthesis is putting two or more things together to make a new product or a new idea, if I write that the Yezidis have castes and the Indians too have them so the Yezidi are originally Indian or vice verse or that they have common roots that would be synthesis.
Yogesh Khandke (
talk)
05:33, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Any way bye and Happy valentine day!
Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 05:34, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
http://northerniraq.info/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2369&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=30
Any Indian who reads about the Yezidi's or sees photographs of their temples is bound to be struck with their similarity with India. Then he would get interested and do further reading. This is what I have done. The more I read the more sources I find which point to the Indianness of the Yezidi faith and the people.
About Adi Shaikh, here is what a Rev. Badger has to say
Since you are there we can talk. Shoot! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yogesh Khandke ( talk • contribs) 07:08, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your report on Yogesh Khandke ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). I have however declined the block for the following reason:
This noticeboard is for
obvious vandals and spammers only. Consider taking this report to
Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. It would need further investigation and diffs, that doesn't look like a clear cut case that could be dealt with on the fly.
If you have further questions, please don't hesitate to ask me on my talk page. Cheers! -- lucasbfr talk 07:28, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Yogesh Khandke is my real name, and I am not using an alias I do not want to take the advantage of anonymity. Apart from all this please see the latest edit. It is you who is indulging in vandalism. I am not indulging in reverts. I did not know about the AIV report, I will try to file one against you unless you desist from frequent revert. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 07:07, 14 February 2009 (UTC) Since you are there we can correspond face to face, shoot! Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 07:09, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Pl. check the Yezidi discussion page Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 05:33, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 07:07, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
My policy on the matter is stated on the discussion page: The edit protection will expire soon however I will not resume the game of editing. This section will be included only when there is a guarantee that it will be safe from vandalism.
The wikipedia policy is verifiability and not truth. I have given sources, the argument is whether the sources qualify as the verifiability standard. I have written to a Yezidi acquaintance of mine who lives in one of the Arab states, (the vagueness is to protect his privacy, if you are interested I will email my correspondence with him, we started on the wrong foot, it doesnot mean we can never be friends. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 07:34, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Not a single letter has been changed, you can check the history what is a boilerplate warning Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 07:43, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
boilerplate is some kind of template, a group of text that can be repeatedly used?? What is a boiler plate warning. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 07:49, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
I am sorry about your illness, please get well soon. I am not reading books as I do not have access to a library. I am corresponding with Yezidis. I hope something comes out of it. I hope one day you understand that the moment I read about the Yezidis I could identify with the practices. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 15:43, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
I too was tempted to write that given a choice I would rather not be in the shoes of the girl who was bludgeoned to death, to put it most mildly. I did not do so as I did not wish to make more antagonists and that was besides the point. Another thing you should mark is the kind of background a person must come from to be able to sympathise with a perpetrator of such a gruesome act. Mankind is a funny species. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 15:50, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Please see My reply to your arguments Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 17:15, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Is your flu worse!!!!!!! Hope it isn't. Yogesh Khandke
If you have time, take care of the anonymous IPs (seems to be the same guy who called me the "Ismaili vandal") that are reverting me on Abdallah ibn Saba. Thanks. -- ♥ pashtun ismailiyya 23:04, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your reverts on Prohibitions in Sikhism. There appears to be consistent POV and propogation of extremist views by this editor. A few years ago we had a similar situation where an editor from banned Sikh Terrorist groups like the Babbar Khalsa were pushing a POV on many articles on Sikhism. Thanks for being so vigialant and your input is always welcome. -- Sikh-history ( talk) 09:19, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
I have again deleted this as Unintentional nonsense, This sentence does not make sense in English; According to a famous controversy,thus virtually introduced pseudo-Geber has been considered as the unknown author of several books in Alchemy. I will try to assume good faith. If you can make the point in English please do so and add a citation. J8079s ( talk) 17:56, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Ok. I didn't know titles couldn't be added. Makes sense from an encyclopedia perspective though. So won't do that. However the names need to be fixed. My citation is that I'm a nephew of Fatehali Huseinuddin Palejwala, so that's family. Following list of people who's names I had fixed inorder to keep the information factual was:
Fatehali Huseinuddin Palejwala, internal link Badruddin Tyabji, internal link Azim Tyabji, internal link M. F. Husain, internal link Dr. Salim Ali, internal link Idris Hasan Latif, internal link
Links have been added since their pages are currently present on wikipedia. I'm a distant relative of most of the above mentioned, and work as a community geneaologist and researcher.
Regards,
Mahir F. Palejwala —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahirzz ( talk • contribs) 22:58, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
I'll have an administrator move it to Ali al-Sistani, and then make every possible other variation a redirect. This means that it can't be easily moved without an administrator doing so, and the administrator will duly note that people are trying to move it to a name with a title. Similiarly, I have yet to move the Aga Khans to names, so far their articles are still Aga Khan IV, Aga Khan III, and so forth. -- ♥ pashtun ismailiyya 04:26, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
So! Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 04:23, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
In my opinion the whole page should be rewritten, you are right, we should keep the emotional baggage off our backs, let us start one by one, the articles describe the Yezidis as a devil worshiping cult, it has over 12 instances of devil worshipping, you may say that most of the time it is written that they are wrongly called devil worshippers, do we need 12 instances of occurrence then. What if some body writes that xxxx prophet and founder of a particular religion has been wrongly accused to have sex with minor children or xxxx holy book has been wrongly accused to have condoned crimes on prisoners of war including rape of captured women after murder of their prisoner husbands in front of them, and have it repeated over and over on the page?
We need to have a reduction in the wrongly devil worshipper attribution part, as you say to start with? Are you ready to do that?
Don't you think that it is necessary to de-sensationalise the whole article to start with?
Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 04:50, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Even the Iranian encyclopaedia quoted by the article [1] contradicts itself and writes about the pre-Zoroastrian legacy of the Yezidis. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 05:35, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for telling me about the username thing, how upsetting. The link should state Nizari Ismailis are the only Ismailis that don't believe in the Occultation, which is how it was originally written. Mustaali believe it for al-Qasim, and the Druze for al-Hakim. The reason I originally wrote it was to initially distinguish between the "Seveners" and the Ismaili (which is often a confusion, even in Sistani's fatwa!), as well as putting it in there because the Seveners were a historically significant religious community. I believe it should stay in there, because obviously when you click on the Seveners it clearly states that they are most likely extinct. To say he simply died is flying in the face of a very prominent historical religious opinion, I think. -- ♥ pashtun ismailiyya 02:50, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Please comment on the points discussed on the talk:Yazidi page Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 03:46, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
So, let's play guess the Ginan. -- ♥ pashtun ismailiyya 04:37, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Following quotaion is being removed continously by few users(especially one):
“ | One morning Muhammad went out wearing a striped cloak of the black camel's hair that there came Hasan b. 'Ali. He wrapped him under it, then came Husain and he wrapped him under it along with the other one (Hasan). Then came Fatima and he took her under it, then came 'Ali and he also took him under it and then said: Allah only desires to take away any uncleanliness from you, O people of the household, and purify you (thorough purifying). | ” |
— Sahih Muslim, Book 031, Number 5955 |
All editors are envited to have discussion on this issue.
Thanx
-- Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider Rizvi ( talk) 14:36, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Aga Khan IV and Inaara Aga Khan, this person keeps deleting my sources and reverting me! *cries* Help me out! -- ♥ pashtun ismailiyya 22:55, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Dear editor,
Few of us have concluded that this article needs severe cleanup and revamp. Intial steps of this have been started and as of now are underway one task.
You are invited for this activity.
Talk:Ali#Article_cleanup_and_revamp
-- Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider Rizvi ( talk) 09:53, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
I probably misunderstood, revert and replenish. -- ♥ pashtun ismailiyya 03:17, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Dear editor
As I am new to this kind of work I apologize for making such changes without consulting. Some of the comments where irrelevant to the purpose of the post, and some where taken from mis-translated sources that draw incorect conclusions. As I had a previouse contribusion to this page, it was removed completly without previouse alert. I thank you for your time, and humbly request to be guided through this procedure of editing this page without breaking any rules or offending any one. -- A.H.Gaylani ( talk)-- A.H.Gaylani ( talk) 13:32, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
thanks for your welcome, I'm only reverting the edits from XPTO due the vandalism. (take a look at his contribuitions)
peace Sifilis122 ( talk) 13:05, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Just to point out the obvious concidence... ;) The Ogre ( talk) 16:25, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Why did you revert my edits? The introduction to the article was poorly written. Shia disputes with Umar should be put in a single paragraph for the sake of coherence. And for God's sake, it needs to be mentioned that he oversaw the conquest of Persia, Syria, Palestine and Egypt. That's what's most important by far! -- Aghniyya ( talk) 09:45, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm not a Muslim and have no stake in Umar as a figure. I'm an atheist. But he's extremely significant... And, in terms of writing, "however" always needs to have a comma next to it when it interrupts the flow of a sentence. Plus, the introduction to the article includes details that better fit the body. For example, the incident with Fatima could be alluded to in the introduction, but it should not be fully explained. Likewise, his conquests should be alluded to as a reason for his importance, but then explained in the body. Right now, this article seems to be more about religious conflict than history and scholarship. -- Aghniyya ( talk) 09:45, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
And yes Virginia, most the important early Islamic conquests happened under Umar: Jerusalem (638), Ctesiphon the Persian capital (637), Egypt (640), the last great battle with the Persians at Nahavand (642). It would be misleading not to mention these events. Plus, something else in the introduction should allude to his political policies (eg, taxation). Religious controversy is not all that matters here. -- Aghniyya ( talk) 10:07, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
I now included a scholarly source about Umar in the introduction. I moved the detailed episode about Fatima to a section called "Shia views of Umar". You can alter that any way you like, or include it in a different section of the body. It's just too specific for the introduction. -- Aghniyya ( talk) 10:22, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Check Yezidis.
To save you the trouble it reads:
Vogels make up an important Iraqi minority community. Estimates of the size of the Iraqi communities vary significantly, between 70,000 and 500,000. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 06:44, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
I wish you read and comment on the following article about peer review.
Malhotra, Rajeev (2006,02-12),
The Peer-Review Cartel, retrieved 2009-04-10 {{
citation}}
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Which is why it is always easy to find wp:rs for popular western myths and sheer nonsense but very difficult to find them for anything that disputes them. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 07:01, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
The implication here is that those who are not licensed by their academic system should not be allowed to argue with their positions, and certainly not as equal partners in dialog. This attitude is, in my view, part of a larger problem in academic discourse, especially in anthropology, sociology and the study of religion, where it is assumed that (i) the non-academician can only be positioned as a native informant, and (ii) the native informant should not talk back.
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Indian writers and journalists, being mostly from English Honors, are awed by those who have mastered this use of "theory." Many Indians’ menu of theories includes what I called The Anti-India Grand Narrative in an earlier article.
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(Imagine, by way of analogy, a Chinese anthropologist who learnt only one year of English in his life, and is sent to America to gather data in a bar, at a football game and at a barbeque, and upon his return to China, becomes promoted as the expert on American culture in their higher education system!)
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They have been reluctant to raise certain human rights problems that are being caused by Western culture around the world. For instance, while a serious set of allegations have been made against Henry Kissinger for atrocities in Latin America and other places, this kind of topic is often kept off-limits to the human rights scholarship sponsored by the Ford Foundations, churches and Ivy leagues. The Western origin of many human rights problems is a major area of silence.
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One of my pet ideas was (and still is) the dis-intermediation of publishing (such as Sulekha is attempting) and of certain academic fields such as anthropology. My collision with Prof. Ann Gold in the 1990s (whom Vijay cites as a glorious example of anthropology) was essentially over my public challenge to experiment with dis-intermediation in her work. I proposed that (i) a neutral team should summarize her 20 years of study of Ghatyali village women (in Rajasthan), and present to the villagers in their own language what she had published about them in USA; (ii) the villagers would then have feedback sessions led by their own community leaders to evaluate how authentic Ann’s depictions of them had been, and also to do reverse-anthropology on Ann and her culture; and (iii) the feedback would be videotaped and presented at subsequent AAR conferences as an evaluation of Ann’s work by the very people she was studying. This would be a review by the peer culture. I also offered that The Infinity Foundation would pay the expenses incurred, and that we would then try to use video-conferencing to bring people in India and American students into direct dialogs as peers (with simultaneous language translation). All this, I proposed, could be an exciting experiment to firstly validate Ann’s work, and to secondly advance the field to a new plane of equal interactions between cultures. At a later stage, we would also bring Indic representation systems as lenses into discussions with Western theories.
Unlike Sokal’s Hoax, my proposal was entirely above-board, and I honestly feel that it would have served the field of anthropology had Ann not felt so threatened by the novelty of my proposal. I wanted to test a new kind of anthropology as a dialog of cultures rather than as universalizing the West’s theories. Because I was unwilling to accept Ann Gold’s conclusions about Ghatyali women as being the final word, and because I insisted that the real peers must be the women of Ghatyali (regardless of the fact that Ann has a thousand times more money and power), I was hounded for "attacking" her. This is not the place to describe the furor that resulted, other than mentioning that there were some intimidating moments from some of her aggressive friends who closed ranks against me to defend the fortress
Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 14:11, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
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Ali al-Hadi. Happy editing!! - Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider Rizvi talk! 09:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC) |
I think "claimed" should be reinserted, just as we would say, "Muhammad claimed to start receiving revelations from the angel Gabriel." Saying "claimed" doesn't imply it is truthful nor that it is incorrect. The Aga Khan's lineage is of some academic scrutiny as well, I think Farhad Daftary denied its validity in fact for sometime. -- Afghana [talk] 22:48, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi Ogress, I saw your recent reversion in the article Sufism. Maybe you might have a look at my comment on the talk page and add to it? See Talk:Sufism#Sufism_and_Islam_(20_June_2009_edit) Thanks, Esowteric | Talk 10:41, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
salaams~
I haven't really been paying attention, but I'm guessing Enzuru is now Afghana? in any case its good to see that you guys are always here.. I was actually hoping you could help do something about this guy.. he's been wreaking havoc and I get the feeling that this is an alternative account. ~ Toushiro 「 話 」 05:01, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Many thanx~ and I have to say your lexicon is quite remarkable.. o_O ~ Toushiro 「 話 」 20:22, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
I think you're the coolest. :) Just saying hi. Johanna-Hypatia ( talk) 12:11, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
I am back, thought it fair to let you know. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 05:05, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Salaams~ been a while, hoping things are ok with you.. just checking back here and already found trouble - any chance of helping me out here.. he keeps reverting to a page that is inaccurate and is missing half of the relevant content.~ Toushiro 「 話 」 02:11, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
I would like you to read my edit reasoning and why I reverted Ogress which you falsely branded as Vandalism. Otherwise I will try to get third opinions involved and try to gain a consensus. Someone65 ( talk) 11:27, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed you posted a comment on the talk age of the following article. I started a new discussion in that issue. You can attend if you want to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Musa_al-Kadhim Kazemita1 ( talk) 20:07, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
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Cunado never contacted us back. I will leave this up to you: User_talk:Enzuru/ConstitutionIslam -- Enzuru 08:07, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I recollect a small touch on the subject of Qur'an recitals with you (female Qurr'a in particular) on some article's talk page (I think t'was Talk:Allah probably...(?)). Was wondering if there's any article here on WP dealing with the the various styles of Qiraat, thought maybe you'd be able to say for sure. 'Abd el 'Azeez ( talk) 07:20, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
I moved the above microrant from your userpage. Aramgar ( talk) 15:33, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
I read your discussion with I forgot his name. But in that conversation you made references to me being a bigot, excuse me? First I'm Jewish and Persian. I don't think I mean to rag on myself, but most Jews are Ashkenazi. Oh and that video I posted is not a White Power video, it is called Ring of Power and it doesn't focus on Jews its focus is on the illuminati and how it started and where it is at now. Ymay have some knowledge on semitics, but your clearly not in tune with Hyksos, and that is fine, because I'm sure you have made some great edits elsewhere, but keep out of something that you don't know, I'm going to find some sources and cram them in there just for you and people like you. Let me give you a piece of advice- you have been taught to get sources from where?? if your smart and I think you are, than you should know that alot of our history books are biased and incorrect and have been adjusted for a "cause" who's sources. If you have ever taken Journalism courses than you should know that its only correct to get sources and opposing views. this type of incorrect logic makes for biased news in favor of "those" who make it, because as a good journalist you need your sources to appease the masses. well let me tell you then that we have brains and we have a right to make a judgement based on facts and the just course of those facts that lead to a just answer. and people like you are only inciting the status quo of an undermining design, conceived before you or me were born, so stop being so closed minded, because you come across as such and that is so not kosher. your brainwashed by someone telling you that what you have accomplished is correct and that is not healthy, you need to leave that behind and help it help you grow. and i love ranting and raving because people can be so close-minded its funny and scary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Binkytheclown2 ( talk • contribs) 14:53, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Pleased to meet you. I agree with you that Din-i-Ilahi is a Persian word not arabic as this Anonmoos has been saying & vandalising the page with. I've added citations and all the citations and britannica says its a Persian word. Please revert any changes made by this Anonmoos or any other vandal on the page and put it in your watchlist and revert if he strikes again. As a last resort, if vandalism continues, get the wiki admins involved. Best regards.-- James smith2 ( talk) 19:02, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Good day Emily, need to know why is my comment being deleted? You claim that I am vandalising the data on this site. Aren't Islamists vandalising the world? Well leave aside the argument. The account of my content is true according to old Hindu scriptures which state and history also agrees that Muhammad destroyed 360 idols that pagans (which is actually Vedic era people worshipped). If he vandalised those people's religion which was, is and will be the truth why is posting truth vandalisation. Need an explanation for this... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Josh7798 ( talk • contribs) 07:51, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
my name is Syed Ansar Ali ,live in Karachi,Pakistan.i have passed B.com exam.,and have handsome knowledge in Arabic language.my idea was{about giving a name}that the names of Allah the God,we know are a few of His uncounted names.first i ask you why we human name a person or thing?.. undoubtly for his quality, characters like..beautiful,ugly,deaf,blind ext. and his actions like speaking,killing,writing,publishing ext.Now we can drive or give names after above mentioned words,{ beautiful:a beautiful boy},{ugly: an ugly dog},{deaf: a deaf man}{blind: a blind woman}all these words beautiful, ugly ,deaf, blind are characters of human being and also are names of human being similarly we can drive from [killing: killer],[speaking:speaker],[writing:writer]and [publishing:publisher] now i think you have an idea about naming a person or you can say to give a name to a person.conclusion is that the same mechanism{of giving names}is applicable for Allah' character and actions{deeds} now i will give an example from Quran.. 'second chapter,verse no.07'from Arab.[ الختّام" ختم "]Eng.[stamping"stamper"]'second chapter,verse no 17 from arb.[التارك "ترك "]Eng.[leaving"leaver" or one who leaves]from above mentioned examples you better understand how we can give a name to a thing, person or Allah the God. Ansarhashmi ( talk) 08:15, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Haha, I remember when that was posted. Good times, but after the fact it just seems blasphemous. Anyway, I am still stirring up controversy, please see this:
They are trying to take my precious redesign away from me, and looks like I am going to lose. Vote to keep it. -- Enzuru 22:44, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
If you have time to listen and help, please listen to me read the Twelve Imams article right here, thank you. My pronunciation needs lots of work, and I'm guessing you are probably alot better off than me when it comes to pronouncing things. -- Enzuru 07:31, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
I've posted a comment on Matulchandra... I don't think it's plausible to post it for translation, but I defer to your more experienced judgment if, given the state of the page in question, it is in fact necessary. I commented under the deletion discussion about this but wanted to just poke you for input. ناهد𒀭(dAnāhita) 𒅴 15:57, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
This may be able to help you. As for this group, I have had difficulty in finding information about specific Kharijite sects, but there is a funny coincidence in history that like the three major branches or something were named after colours. Straight as a rainbow I guess. -- Enzuru 22:01, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I dont know if I should converse in Persian or not.
I'm here to ask you for your help, since I know you know more than I do, about a problem I'm having on the Ahvaz talk page:
User "Zora", has been constantly trying to attach the origins of Ahvaz to Arabs (in support of the recent unrests of Arab separatists in Khuzestan in the news).
She claims Ahvaz is an Arab name, and claims that Elamites have no connections to the Persians, hence invalidating any claims of Iranian-ness of the Khuzestan province, from a historical perspective. She says there are no etymological connections between today's Iran and the pre-Arab one.
She is basically trying to re-write the page.
Az komak e shomaa dar oonjaa nahaayat e sepaas ro daaram.-- Zereshk 04:09, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
If you have time and are so inclined to get involved, I would like to request your continued input in the discussion pages of the Khuzestan and Ahvaz articles, for the same reasons as Zereshk has outlined above. Zora has persisted and has once again declared her intention to rewrite the articles to fit her pan-Arabist agenda (drawn from propaganda websites naturally). Thank you. SouthernComfort 21:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
I wasn't referring to that as speculation (although, if one were to be pedantic, Augustine actually says they call themselves rather than their language Chanani, doesn't he?); I just moved it from the text to the infobox, and didn't think it should be in two places. And incidentally, thanks for your improvements to the article! I love it when an article I've been feeling guilty about not expanding gets expanded by someone else. - Mustafaa 04:04, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I was looking at Uzza and become confused; I found there the same question I was about to ask, without clarification: Talk:Uzza#3?. Can you explain this? Cheers, Hv 20:53, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
In the text of the article Sahaba, you substituted for the letter "s" in "sahaba" a character which doesn't display properly on my screen; it just looks like a square. (See here.) What is that character supposed to be? Is it in Unicode? -- Metropolitan90 02:12, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
You've been making some interesting transliteration changes. For instance you made Shafi'i into Šāfiˤǐ which is a transliteration I have never seen before. Most academic articles I ahve read use something close to Shafi'i. I know linguistically that's correct... but we must refer to it how they would encyclopedically. You've also made many drastic changes without edit summaries or explanation. I don't want to discourage good work but I do want to encourage communication... gren グレン ? 05:45, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
For instance, on this diff why the semi-colon after Turkish (unlinking language) and Azeri? The Azerbaijani language? You also added "Constantly being prosecuted and massacred by the Ottomans on account that they followed Shi'a Islam, the Kızılbaş fled to Iran." which seems like a very strong statement to make. Constantly persecuted? Can you explain this all some. You've been making a lot of substantive changes and they may all be for the better... but it's a good idea to be wary of such changes. gren グレン ? 05:57, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
For Tabriz you changed it to Tæbriz which I have rarely seen used. Täbriz is much moreso used but still we must place some importance on common English renderings. What do you use to decide these renderings? gren グレン ? 06:00, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English). -- Khoikhoi 23:21, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi Emily, no offense intended but I have noticed that you have substituted common name spelling in the Alaouite Dynasty for instance, with what I understand is a phonetic spelling, do you think this is really judicious ? while this may appeal to academic circles, Wikipedia's intended audience is rather the general population ! this might bring some confusion, I am not talking about search engine failing to find those spelling !-- Khalid hassani 13:38, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Is there any specific reason why you insist on phonetic spelling of Arabic terms in Qadi? Based on Talk:Ulema, I thought there was already a consensus on that matter. Pecher Talk 20:59, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for experimenting with the page Plato on Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Scott Grayban 21:05, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
Doroud Nahid jan and thanks for copy editing Simurgh. Best wishes. Amir85 19:06, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
Could you add more edit summaries? with saved fields in the box it won't be too much effort pasting in "change diacritics" or something... but, it could be useful on edits where it's not as clear. Just to differentiate between copyediting and content change or removal would be useful. Thanks. gren グレン 09:21, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
Why have you changed all that spellings?! a quick google search [1] shows no other page on internet with that spelling. Please do not change it back. Thanks, -- - K a s h Talk | email 11:28, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi can you tell me what transliteration system you are using? For example in Ayatollah. Thanks! Cam 17:42, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm trusting that you're right and Chaldean is wrong on the etymology. You want me to back you up with reverts? I've generally stayed out of that article, but I'd like to keep it accurate. Zora 05:54, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
As a userbox fan of FLCL, would you be willing to vote for its nomination at Wikipedia's Article Improvement Drive? If elected, it will be the subject of a week-long overhaul, in an attempt to pass in to Featured Article status! Thanks, Litefantastic 16:13, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi Emily
Perhaps you can help me a bit with a series of articles on Punic Carthage. I'm involved in the milhist project and so my focus is on the Punic Wars and Punic military forces(Carthage had a low level of power centralisation and was more an agglomeration of powerful dynasties. Carthage's nobility could and did have private armies operating on their own. So this was the best name I could think of.) Perhaps you could help me with a bit of background information on the subject. For example the tin supply(the Atlantic route seems to have lost importance with the advent of Celts in Gaul, Hannibal possibly tried/established a traderoute along the Garonne River and Auronne River, leaving only Massilia's Rhone route not under Carthage's control) would be interesting for the Second Punic War. For the First Punic War and Mercenary War the rural economy of Northern Africa would be of interest and perhaps some info on Canaanite tax system, etc. At the moment I have read some books and continue reading some and it clearly shows that more non-milhist background could really help to better understand these subjects. For example I try to find out more about legal forms such as the Berkit which was possibly Hannibal's treaty with Macedon and Hasdrubal the Fair's with Rome. It would have discontinued with the end of the respective strategus office, unless ratified by a supreme state authority(This way Polybius version about the Roman envoys travelling back and forth between Iberia and Carthage would make sense and there is a dispute of historians about this, but I feel not safe enough to throw it into the article without more background checks. The Punic Wars and Carthage's forces seem to attract a special clientel of editors who almost rape the sources to push a POV but they don't dare to touch well sourced material.)
Yes, I know that' lots of detail, so simply if you have any idea how to help me highlight the background of these things or improve information on the Punic culture I would be very grateful. Wandalstouring 15:44, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I was just wondering why you paced a welcome template on User:Jeeny. The user isn't a new user, and is in fact, a user who has been indefinitely blocked. - Rjd0060 ( talk) 23:55, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Hey there! I noticed you've been making good contributions to some Islam related articles. I also noticed your comment regarding the aqidah article regarding the Ismaili movement. Amongst the majority of Muslim scholars, the Ismailis have always been regarded as being a separate religion from Islam - this is actually one of the few things both Sunnis and Shias seem to agree on. I believe though that by the standards of Wikipedia they are generally included in discissions on Muslims. Hope that helps! MezzoMezzo ( talk) 14:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
This is the only warning you will receive for your disruptive edits.
The next time you delete or blank page contents or templates from Wikipedia, as you did to
Druze, you will be
blocked from editing.
well the IP address 63.216.113.124 is getting on my nerves.So while looking at "its" contributions I found out that "it" dropped you a silly vandalism warning, so after looking at his note I wrongfully pasted the vandalism warning addressed to "it" on your talk page but undid it later.
Anyway I would like to take the chance to thank you for your hard work and contributions. And I hope that malicious users like this IP address would get a hobby soon.My best regards for you and all the serious editors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hiram111 ( talk • contribs) 00:18, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I have left a comment for you here [2]. I am not online that much so the discussion may take some time.
Cheers,
-- Be happy!! ( talk) 08:50, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Emilyzilch, I noticed this edit to your user page from an IP. Out of curiosity, is that you, or a vandal? I couldn't tell very easily, hence my question. Thanks. Acalamari 22:24, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
I saw the usage of Allat in a published source with my own eyes for the first time. It is in one of the quotes here [3]. Cheers, -- Be happy!! ( talk) 03:34, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the compliment. I'm pleased you enjoy the article. If you feel it needs improvement, please contribute. -- Fyslee / talk 06:02, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Hey i put my reason up for my views, im 99 percent sure there is no muslim assyrians, the ones that got converted during the invasion of arabia into mesopotamia have no assyrian blood they are arabs and dont consider them selfs assyrian, there is no assyrian muslim group that has its own flag,not enough reliable sources to prove that there is such thing as muslim assyrians —Preceding unsigned comment added by 55yy55hh ( talk • contribs) 17:44, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
Hey there, my sister in humanity.
When I was active I used to do tons of work on heretical groups, and defending them from the mainstream, which is kind of odd since I'm jaw-droppingly orthodox Twelver. I pretty much wrote the Ismaili article, as well as organized the articles on that branch. Anyway, I see you are doing the same. Just some pointers:
If you have anymore questions, feel free to ask sister. And on a personal note, commenting on your userboxes, my two best friends are 'LBGT' themselves. -- Enzuru 03:26, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I just have reverted. In my opinion it is enough to reference onto " Dailam" for further information. This is what the experts at Encyclopaedia Iranica also do. is it ok for you? NPOVfan ( talk) 16:57, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I've had similar issues with the editor on other articles. I filed an incident report on the Administrators' noticeboard, but apparently they were all too busy at the time to go through my diffs and reply. I'll try to get involved on this page and help resolve the disputes. ← George [ talk 23:54, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure what can be done, but I'm assuming the 3-minute window will be ignored due to his consistent (and recent) history of revert-warring. I've linked to one of his 3RR warnings. I'm not an admin, so you'll have to wait until one reviews your request. I'm expecting a block, though.-- Koji Dude (C) 22:53, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
I've noticed your defense of that article against the recent POV it's been slapped with by some anons. You're doing a good job, sometimes it's good to hear that from fellow editors. :) MezzoMezzo ( talk) 04:32, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
What are you talking about? En Ne talk 02:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Left a note on his talk page. Khoi khoi 03:14, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Hello, Ogress. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The discussion is about the topic of you. Thank you. -- lifebaka ( talk - contribs) 04:16, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I'm concerned about your understanding of wikipedia policy, please take a look at my response here WP:BLP/N#Sonja Elen Kisa Nil Einne ( talk) 06:13, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
biruni was a persian man that you must know that persian peoples and even non persian peoples like turks living in iran now and uzbekistan is a modern country that established from 1921 and in 1991 became an independent country. russian created this country after the russian occupiation and tajik populated locations such as bukhara, samarghand , khawrezm and etc forcibly combined to uzbekistan for political reasons that russians dont want an tajiki-persian-iranian power in that region. this location first named bactriana and then became a permanent part of persia until russian conquest. do you know after the islamic conqust of persia(iran) , iran became a part of abbassid khalifate? do you know whole people of that region in that time identified them as iranian? do you know persia is a western word for the region of iran? do you know iranian atleast before the islamic conquest at the time of sassanids called their region iran(eeraan). do you know you could not calling saint persons like imam ali as vampire. you can respect to these persons. even you dont like them you cant affront them. if you are a sunni or christian or jew or zoroastrian,i cant affront to saint people of all religions.i like all of the religions and prophets. specially i like zoroastrians , zoroastrianism originated from iran(persia). at the end thank you for your good message.( Kanowini ( talk) 13:02, 1 September 2008 (UTC))
If I'm reading this correctly, you recently made a request at Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Altai Khan. Any chance you could explain, in brief, why you believe the user you mentioned is a sockpuppet? Or, alternatively, why you asked for a checkuser investigation? – Luna Santin ( talk) 22:06, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
I think we lost that one, I'll just use the template for Islamic Art/in India (or do you have another idea?) Anyway, when you find Yazid to be an upright caliph, how the hell can you expect to get your colours right and arrange furniture? Bad taste is bad taste, no matter what area in life it is. Metrosexual Shi'a FTW. -- Enzuru 03:00, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
To : emily zilch or nahed sarvy, read this lined very good u seem to be very ignorant of irans history
You are not iranian and you dont know the least about the history of iran, the word and the nation of iran has existed since 3000 years ago, thats why in shahnameh, the national epic of iran, which is writen 1100 years ago the name iran is mentioned more than 1500 times, and you say rumi or mowlana predates iran and he livd before iran? rumi lived 800 years ago, iran and the name iran has existed for 3000 years. but the western name of iran until 1935 was persia until western world decided to call the country by its native name WHICH HAS BEEN USED BY IRANIANS FOR 3000 YEARS.Do u understand NOW???????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cilbup ( talk • contribs) 22:25, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Fuck off. WP:MOSISLAM mentions "pbuh" and "as", not titles, you idiot. Are "king", "prince" and "duke" honorifics? Again, fuck off.
RUMI OR MOWLANA WAS IRANIAN AND BELONGS TO IRAN, AND YOU ARE SAYING HE LIVED BEFORE IRAN AND HE WAS NOT IRANIAN, HAHAHA, YOU ARE AN IGNORANT OF THE HISTORY OF IRAN
To : emily zilch or nahed sarvy
Search for shahnameh on the net, shahnameh is the national epic of Iran, it was writen for 1100 years ago, in this epic the word iran is mentioned 1500 times to refer to the country.Why did you say mowlana or rumi was not iranian and why did u say he lived before iran? u should learn more about the history of iran.but Now u know that iran as a name and as a nation has existed for 3000 year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cilbup ( talk • contribs) 22:37, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Help! -- Enzuru 00:19, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
I should've said it earlier, Ramadan mubarak dude. There are some cool duas here you can recite. -- Enzuru 22:38, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
'Aql a real article? That's sweet. And that's a pretty cool add-on, right now I am using Opera for no reason, I should switch back to Firefox. -- Enzuru 04:54, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
To Emilyzilch from Soleado ( talk) 21:13, 13 September 2008 (UTC): I don't understand in what is wrong in having Aqidah spelled as Aqeedah. The reason I moved the page was that the word Aqeedah is not pronounced as Aqidah. As I've read about you on your Wikipedia page, you are a linguistic. I assume you know that Aqidah and Aqeedah are pronounced two different ways if read in Roman-Arabic.
I considered taking out man & woman and making the last line link to homosexuality, but it's yours now. Template:User Whatever -- Enzuru 01:22, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. And as long as I can be a bigot to other denominations of Muslims I can live happily. But, conversely because of the stress of the situation, I refuse to be with anyone orthodox, so I'm going to Turkey or Albania and picking up an Alevi-Bektashi there (all we have in Los Angeles are Armenians and Shah-supporters). And wow, yurts, that's pretty hardcore. -- Enzuru 08:56, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
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Removing racism/religious prejudice from your page. Wikipedia attracts a large Shia community as well and your comments could be of great concern to them (I don't know about Sunnis). There's already enough garbage present around us in this world. So pls don't litter Wikipedia with some! Let it remain that clean as people think of it. Pls help promote a MULTICULTURAL environment on Wikipedia. Read the guidelines section once again to see what Wikipedia expects from the users.
Prince Phoenician ( talk) 07:48, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
The man in discussion was not an ordinary person who served his whole life for the preaching's of Islam and made significant impact on the life of Muslims to lead their life for peace and love with the human kind. There are more than 100 books he has written down during his life for the welfare of humanity to learn exactly what islam is. So in no way a page from Wikipedia can be deleted which provides information about a person with such contribution to his religion where millions of people followed his teachings to lead their life according to what exactly islam teaches to its followers. He also started free healthcare camps for eye treatment at his place Darul-Ehsan where thousands of poor people got their eyes treated twice in a year. This year on 16th of Ramadan there was his 11th death anniversary which was attended by around 1 million people.
You are requested to make this page available for people to find firsthand knowledge about this legend of islam. Azam Ishaque 09:31, 30 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Azamishaque ( talk • contribs)
I usually correspond with Klakky via e-mail, I've been trying to make him a respectable member for quite sometime. Despite this, he still calls me an Ismaili. Anyway, we need to get admins on this, or maybe run for adminship or something. -- Enzuru 21:24, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks sis, I just, want to feel right again. The happiness of realization hits first, and then the realization of how awful the situation hits second. -- Enzuru 07:00, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Branch > Denomination! -- Enzuru 17:39, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
They're so communicative! -- Enzuru 23:13, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
This may not have been your intention, but what you recently did at Talk:Geber was de-archiving, not archiving. You essentially moved all the previously archived discussions from the archive page back into the main talk page. You probably just made a mistake, so I've reverted your edits there. - kotra ( talk) 00:56, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- kotra ( talk) 07:28, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know what happened to my talk comment on the Dorset/Sadlermiut question. Seeing you're from RI, I wonder if you are aware that a couple of the more important archaeological collections pertaining to Eskimo prehistory (Cape Krusenstern and Onion Portage)are actually at the Arctic lab at the Haffenreffer Museum in Bristol (now closed pending relocation), though they rarely go on display.
I'd really like to see the whole Dorset article rewritten, but preferably by a Canadian archaeologist since they would most likely be up-to-date on recent unpublished finds.
Surprisingly, while there are entries on, e.g., Independence I and Saqqaq, there is no entry on Pre-Dorset, though it is the earliest culture in most of the Eastern Canadian Arctic and probably ancestral to -- but clearly distinct from -- Dorset. Wonder why?
Cheers, -- Death Bredon ( talk) 11:51, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Could you check what you might have been thinking when you duplicated the {{islam}} template in Hajj? I see you were reverting vandalism just prior, and maybe you thought it had been deleted? Problem is that previously it aligned with the TOC, as seen here, but now after someone deleted "the wrong duplicate" it looks weird, or at least "less good". I think I'm going to reverse back to the way it was. Could you check it out? Shenme ( talk) 04:20, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
O hai! 72.70.84.164 ( talk) 21:46, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
I have nominated Talk:Imamah (Shi'a twelver doctrine) ( | article | history | links | watch | logs) for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. ناهد/(Nåhed) speak! 23:48, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your message [4] on my talk page. I have blocked all of the IPs recently used for vandalism and also temporarily protected both Shia Islam and {{ Shia Islam}}. Please let me know if there is anything else I can do to help. -- Kralizec! ( talk) 01:37, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Here ya go! You can't rotate through code, but you can rotate through Paint or even the image viewer on Windows! -- Enzuru 18:35, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Emily. What's up with that picture of Nosferatu on your userpage. I have noticed that it tends to be a lightning rod for vandals. As one also interested in Shia Islam, especially Alevism, I am having a some trouble understanding the caption. Could you explain it to me. Your colleague from the other side of the Muddy Water, Aramgar ( talk) 18:03, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Malang is a very interesting phrase. You can only find it mentioned by Shi'a, primarily youth I believe, like if you go to any Shi'a forums or things like that. I have never found it in scholarly literature, but it is a term that really needs to be defined. A malang is often confused with an Akhbari (sometimes they call themselves Akhbari to be more legitimate). Basically, a malang is a Shi'a who is Punjabi, Sindhi, or Seraiki (maybe some other ethnic groups of this exist). These ethnic groups for some reason have a form of Shi'a Islam that is more like Alevism than proper Jafari (Usuli, Akhbari, or Shaykhi). They make up I think a majority of Pakistan's Shi'a population, with the proper Shi'a groups generally being muhajir from India. They don't have any formal fiqh or anything that I know of, I believe they were introduced to Shi'a beliefs by Shi'i missionaries (Sufis), but perhaps like the Alevi, did not get the fiqh and other things that generally goes along with orthodox Shi'asm. They have beliefs taken from Hinduism such as a sayeda cannot marry a non-sayed man, but a sayed man can marry a sayeda women. They have hadith (in Urdu from what I've seen, maybe they took it from Arab sources originally) stating that whoever mourns Husayn (AS) during Muharram their sins will be forgiven by Fatimah (AS), and I believe this is sometimes used to justify their lack of prayer and other fiqh laws. Since they do not have formal fiqh they don't have any formal banning of self-hitting, so it is prominent among them, and may tie in with being forgiven for their transgressions. I believe they also share the Ismaili book of hadith that is in the Urdu language, Qalam-e-Mowla.
What is absolutely startling to me is that I have never seen scholarly sources pinpoint that these ethnic groups, which make up a bulk of Pakistan's Shi'a population, have a form of Shi'a Islam that is completely different from orthodox beliefs that can be found among Arabs, Iranians, and Indians. Most Shi'a in the West understand this important difference among South Asian Shi'a. Apparently the name malang, no one even knows why they use it, not even South Asians (my dad I think told me it was an insulting phrase, but I know they themselves use it). Nobody mentions the beliefs of these groups nor the fact they exist. I have no idea why this is to this day, though I've speculated that most scholars just see it as a folk understanding of Shi'a Islam rather than a separate sect (and that might be true). It's almost as if an entire sect of Shi'asm has been lost to scholarly literature. -- Enzuru 21:39, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Hello :) Good to hear from you. The quote that i edited might be considered offensive by some readers, therefore instead of removing the whole quotation, i modified it so that it doesn't sound offensive, as no one will like his/her religion being dubbed as "drama". It actually affected the neutrality of an otherwise very good article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pirateofmars ( talk • contribs) 13:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
I wonder if I might persuade you or someone you know to take a look at a caption which probably needs to be tweaked a bit?
Italian Admiral Ernesto Burzagli was honored with the Order of Ouissam Alaouite; and an image of the paper which accompanied the award of badge and ribbon was posted at Wikicommons. I've posted the image of that certificate/diploma in both articles, but I'm a little uncertain about the caption. I wonder about the word dahir and its somewhat unsatisfactory link to a disambiguation page. This somewhat inadequate wiki-formatting choice was informed by the first paragraph of Berber Dahir.
When I noticed your edit to Alaouite Dynasty, it crossed my mind that you might be willing to help polish the rough edges I'm unable to resolve more elegantly? -- Tenmei ( talk) 14:20, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
Did they think we were gonna fall for a little nick change? -- Enzuru 17:55, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
they show theories which have been blown to pieces by the chinese ditors on that talk page, if you actually read the whole thing which i doubt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.155.151.117 ( talk) 02:57, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
then is deleting blatant misinformation allowed by wiki policy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.155.151.117 ( talk) 03:34, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
one of the sections is clearly blatant misinformation, and can be pointed out easily since the articles creater is a korean. apparenlyl almost one year ago a korean said hed find a source on the talk page. he did not, so im deleting that section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.155.151.117 ( talk) 03:37, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
I made my Chinese friend on it! And it hasn't been deleted as overly racist yet! Go me! I'm Enzutwo on it by the way (in one of the strangest experiences ever, not only was my very rare nick taken for one of the first times in my life, it was taken on the first day the game came out). But, I kinda got out of it after I got to the space stage like most people. I need to justify that fifty dollars, so I'll get back into it. I'm going to try to make a Salafi. -- Enzuru 03:10, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
I made a small update to Template:Ismailism. Perhaps you with your transliteration prowess may want to fix things up, put complex accent marks, and so forth. -- Enzuru 23:37, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
The pre-Islamic link between Kaaba and Hinduism is subject to extensive debate and even Muslims do not deny it. The Pagans referred to as using the Kaaba before Islam are most probably Hindus. Any rudimentary search on google will tell this. Please keep my update and add references as I dont know how to do the same.
Thanks Waseem —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.43.110.59 ( talk) 06:40, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I think we have a mutual problem with the above IP who is aggresively pushing his/her POV, and has broken the 3R rule. Any ideas what to do next?-- Sikh-history ( talk) 08:00, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
I hate historical revisionism, I hate historical revisionism, I hate historical revisionism... -- Enzuru 22:28, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply. Zomputer ( talk) 20:25, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
So, I've been keeping my little eye out on the Wahhabism article, and it's just awful. Why do we have an article for a virtual boogeyman again? This is ridiculous. Anyway, help out here with what sources we should use. -- Enzuru 23:25, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
What do you think on how I've changed the Imam templates around? Start at Hasan ibn Ali and work your way around to see how it is organized. -- Enzuru 02:43, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh, and I thought you'd enjoy this. From Talk:Ruhollah Khomeini.
Smear? I didn't you say anyone in particular was a "deletionist." That's your interpretation I was talking about you. You're engaged in Original Research!!! -- BoogaLouie ( talk) 17:39, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
-- Enzuru 01:16, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Please provide evidence. OhanaUnited Talk page 16:06, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Those two IPs you mentioned on Klakky's page, for now, have been mentioned here. Let's continue our assumption that the IP and Klakky are two different characters for now. They are completely different in their other vandalism not concerning us, it just seems they share a common interest in some points. -- Enzuru 04:33, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
I will revert his actions if you or someone else hasn't already to keep it neutral. You should make it a point in the case that he vandalized the case, that may help speedy up the process. Thanks DJS -- DJS 24 20:13, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Your comment here was appreciated as even I wasn't aware that Muslims can/do eat Kosher. Regards, -- RoadAhead =Discuss= 20:40, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
While I'm all for noting Ibn Sina and Rumi's cultural heritage as Persian, it seems many editors try to hide the fact that they were born (or from) what is today Afghanistan, so they go through great lengths saying, " Persian Empire in what is today Iran even though it was called Persia, Shahu akbar," and so forth. The Afghani editors, the ones that haven't fallen prey to Pan-Iranism yet at least, are generally more correct in calling them Afghani, except that is against scholarly consensus since if we look at the entry on what Persian technically means, the Tajik and other Farsiwan of Afghanistan are included. So... it's a tough issue. Just remember, any edit made in good faith isn't vandalism, or so Elonka told me to keep in mind. So, those people who change the Shi'a article and say we're kaffir, that is being made in good faith, unlike the ones who just delete the article and link to pictures of penises. -- Enzuru 00:25, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Well i am not sure why you placed back in what i had taken out in the first section. there are absolutley no citations with it and the second paragraph of the intro seems to be quite single minded to me with out have supporting material.
I am not sure however why you deleted my infomation about Umm Waraqa? there is nothing really writen on the hadith in this article, they just briefly mention it with out giving any explanation to the possibility...isn't that not giving both sides of the story?
Ktewhitney ( talk) 03:33, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi. You've nominated the same article twice here. I don't know which nomination you'd like to remove, so I'll leave it to you. - Richard Cavell ( talk) 22:30, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
That's too l33t for me. -- Enzuru 18:48, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
User:Redappletree reported you to WP:AIV a few hours ago. I declined the report, as you're obviously not a vandal. I suspected Redappletree is a sock of some kind, but in reviewing his edit to Alevi, it appears you've done something puzzling, and his revert of your last edit there might actually make sense. At first you reverted an IP removing a lot of text, but lately you've been deleting it yourself, reverting back to the IP's version. Is this what you wanted to do? Is it a Twinkle goof? I think re-adding the material was correct. If you delete it again, please explain in the edit summary or on the talk page. Thanks. -- barneca ( talk) 17:32, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
hi. i have edited again the women as imams page and tried to take into consideration my writing style. i found it interseting that you thought i was going against women leading women in prayers because i was trying to look at it objectively, and i don't think i added my own opinion in there becuase your perception does not match up with my opinion. if you could give me anyother suggestions i would really appriciate it! thanks.
( Ktewhitney ( talk) 19:36, 14 December 2008 (UTC))
Please vote on this issue. Thanks! -- Enzuru 03:43, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Just dropping by to say hello. My apologies for being completely green about talkbacks. PinkWorld ( talk) 02:46, 25 December 2008 (UTC)Pink
Sigh, Emsters, do you remember the good old days, when vandals would spell, and think out their vandalism? =( Things ain't like they used to be, hun. In the meantime, I'm thinking about changing my signature to IsmailiVandal. -- Enzuru 10:27, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Happy new Year, May you get many more in the coming Year. GOD Bless You, Wishing All your Dream Comes True Azam Ishaque 09:17, 2 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Azamishaque ( talk • contribs)
Hi there, Ogress. Regarding the Druze Islam category issue, what I meant was that the Islam category page has a tag at the top of the page saying that articles should be moved into subcategories as appropriate. Reason: Everyone dumps any article whatsoever to do with Islam in the main category page. This results in too many articles on the main category page (not to mention the problem of which articles deserve more preference than others). Only the most important articles such as, Allah, Muhammad, Sunnah etc. should be place in the main category page. I have been battling with this ongoing problem for a few years and, as the tag rightly says, the page needs constant maintenance. I hope this clarifies the issue. Thanks. :) MP ( talk• contribs) 18:41, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for deleting the vandalism on that one page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PinkWorld ( talk • contribs) 08:44, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
I've been fighting this battle. He's agreed to rewrite, do you mind creating the sandbox along with a short (sourced!) blurb? I don't want do it lest I cause controversy. -- ♥ pashtun ismailiyya 08:51, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
salam How on earth did you come to be so good at spelling? Mashallah! Btw, should the ya at the end of Tabataba'i have the double dot below? PinkWorld ( talk) 02:32, 18 January 2009 (UTC)Pink
Thanks to sister PinkWorld, we have this lovely text file: WikiShiaIslamSrcTxt.txt, this could really help renovate that article completely. -- ♥ pashtun ismailiyya 22:44, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
assalamu `alaykum
*major-league huge blush* It has a gazillion typos. By the time that my ancient browser loaded this page with my ancient computer on the ancient modem, I forgot what I was actually going to say.
PinkWorld (
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14:34, 22 January 2009 (UTC)Pink
I just wanted to let yo know that the information on Salman Fars is Fradulent on wikipedia. I have original proof written in Farsi/Tajiki about his biography. I had already edited the page, but yout took off my edit. I really do not think its fair. The book i have is not in english but is very old. I demand that the correct information about him being processed. See my firend, Salman was a zorastrian, he scaped from his temple in balkh. Then he went to Saudi Arabia, He knew Arabic, So he became a translator there. Think about it. Who better than him to translate a religion to persian, where the persians trusted him so much. I want youto think about it, Mohammed was smart, now if you were mohammed and you wanted to promote your religion, wouldnt you need a translator and a translator with a previous knowledge of a background religion (zorast) with lots of scientific support from it. yeah you would. now what hurts is that all of us got killed, tortured, and mass murdered by islam, and now we can even face the truth. Salman knew the weakpoints of zorasts, think about it, deeply. Peace was our weakpoint, peace. ask anyone who is 50 years of age or older from afghanistan of iran, they know, cause they read the correct history backhome. the problem is that these books were burnt, all our books so that the truth doesnt come out. Thank yo very much for yout consideration —Preceding unsigned comment added by Motlagh ( talk • contribs) 14:08, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, there is something i need to know. Regarding the article Muhammad's wives, its more appropriate when one includes Prophet before his name because thats how his name is to be pronounced. Please look forward to the issue —Preceding unsigned comment added by Syedatif ( talk • contribs) 17:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Where are all these pretentious editors coming from? -- ♥ pashtun ismailiyya 10:17, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
assalamu `alaykum wa rahmatullah What is macron? Is it that phonics spelling that appears as little boxes on my old computer? PinkWorld ( talk) 05:46, 9 February 2009 (UTC)Pink
I wonder why you edited entry on Yezidi and their Indian origin including the similarity of Murugan's vehicle and the Peacock King.
Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 15:57, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Hey I do not know how long this game of switching lights on and off will go on. There is not a line of originality in my edit. A link to the site from which the information is taken is given as a reference.
Please read carefully before jumping to conclusions. I wonder what the smash! is for, I did not know that Wikipedia had a queen bee that refered to herself in plural. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 19:57, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
I am not an expert on language nor on theology or Indology or for that matter any logy.
There is not a word which I have invented and I am not referring to dasni but the similarity with Murugan, I have not put one and one together as you allege. To make it easier for you here is the link which is from a Yezidi site which compares the Peacock king with Murugan or his vehicle.
The link:
http://www.yeziditruth.org/the_peacock_angel
Unless you have a reference with better authority kindly restore the article as it was edited by me.
It is 2.00 am local time (almost) and I need to go. In the switch on and off game, the score is one - love in your favour. I need to go
Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 20:24, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
My edit seems to be left as I had done it. I just was peeved by the "we cannot allow editors part..."
The above link is referred as number 7 in my edit.
Do we always need to be very formal? I am sorry for hurting you.
I am a dummy as far as Wikipedia goes, how do you give an indent on the talk page? Sorry for using a line as a seperater.
Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 20:35, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 21:15, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 14:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
assalamu `alaykum wa rahmatullah, sister
Some guy thinks that he is going to take over the restructuring of the article. Can you have a look, please?
PinkWorld (
talk)
05:08, 12 February 2009 (UTC)Pink
Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 04:53, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Synthesis is putting two or more things together to make a new product or a new idea, if I write that the Yezidis have castes and the Indians too have them so the Yezidi are originally Indian or vice verse or that they have common roots that would be synthesis.
Yogesh Khandke (
talk)
05:33, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Any way bye and Happy valentine day!
Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 05:34, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
http://northerniraq.info/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2369&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=30
Any Indian who reads about the Yezidi's or sees photographs of their temples is bound to be struck with their similarity with India. Then he would get interested and do further reading. This is what I have done. The more I read the more sources I find which point to the Indianness of the Yezidi faith and the people.
About Adi Shaikh, here is what a Rev. Badger has to say
Since you are there we can talk. Shoot! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yogesh Khandke ( talk • contribs) 07:08, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your report on Yogesh Khandke ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). I have however declined the block for the following reason:
This noticeboard is for
obvious vandals and spammers only. Consider taking this report to
Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. It would need further investigation and diffs, that doesn't look like a clear cut case that could be dealt with on the fly.
If you have further questions, please don't hesitate to ask me on my talk page. Cheers! -- lucasbfr talk 07:28, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Yogesh Khandke is my real name, and I am not using an alias I do not want to take the advantage of anonymity. Apart from all this please see the latest edit. It is you who is indulging in vandalism. I am not indulging in reverts. I did not know about the AIV report, I will try to file one against you unless you desist from frequent revert. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 07:07, 14 February 2009 (UTC) Since you are there we can correspond face to face, shoot! Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 07:09, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Pl. check the Yezidi discussion page Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 05:33, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 07:07, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
My policy on the matter is stated on the discussion page: The edit protection will expire soon however I will not resume the game of editing. This section will be included only when there is a guarantee that it will be safe from vandalism.
The wikipedia policy is verifiability and not truth. I have given sources, the argument is whether the sources qualify as the verifiability standard. I have written to a Yezidi acquaintance of mine who lives in one of the Arab states, (the vagueness is to protect his privacy, if you are interested I will email my correspondence with him, we started on the wrong foot, it doesnot mean we can never be friends. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 07:34, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Not a single letter has been changed, you can check the history what is a boilerplate warning Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 07:43, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
boilerplate is some kind of template, a group of text that can be repeatedly used?? What is a boiler plate warning. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 07:49, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
I am sorry about your illness, please get well soon. I am not reading books as I do not have access to a library. I am corresponding with Yezidis. I hope something comes out of it. I hope one day you understand that the moment I read about the Yezidis I could identify with the practices. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 15:43, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
I too was tempted to write that given a choice I would rather not be in the shoes of the girl who was bludgeoned to death, to put it most mildly. I did not do so as I did not wish to make more antagonists and that was besides the point. Another thing you should mark is the kind of background a person must come from to be able to sympathise with a perpetrator of such a gruesome act. Mankind is a funny species. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 15:50, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Please see My reply to your arguments Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 17:15, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Is your flu worse!!!!!!! Hope it isn't. Yogesh Khandke
If you have time, take care of the anonymous IPs (seems to be the same guy who called me the "Ismaili vandal") that are reverting me on Abdallah ibn Saba. Thanks. -- ♥ pashtun ismailiyya 23:04, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your reverts on Prohibitions in Sikhism. There appears to be consistent POV and propogation of extremist views by this editor. A few years ago we had a similar situation where an editor from banned Sikh Terrorist groups like the Babbar Khalsa were pushing a POV on many articles on Sikhism. Thanks for being so vigialant and your input is always welcome. -- Sikh-history ( talk) 09:19, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
I have again deleted this as Unintentional nonsense, This sentence does not make sense in English; According to a famous controversy,thus virtually introduced pseudo-Geber has been considered as the unknown author of several books in Alchemy. I will try to assume good faith. If you can make the point in English please do so and add a citation. J8079s ( talk) 17:56, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Ok. I didn't know titles couldn't be added. Makes sense from an encyclopedia perspective though. So won't do that. However the names need to be fixed. My citation is that I'm a nephew of Fatehali Huseinuddin Palejwala, so that's family. Following list of people who's names I had fixed inorder to keep the information factual was:
Fatehali Huseinuddin Palejwala, internal link Badruddin Tyabji, internal link Azim Tyabji, internal link M. F. Husain, internal link Dr. Salim Ali, internal link Idris Hasan Latif, internal link
Links have been added since their pages are currently present on wikipedia. I'm a distant relative of most of the above mentioned, and work as a community geneaologist and researcher.
Regards,
Mahir F. Palejwala —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahirzz ( talk • contribs) 22:58, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
I'll have an administrator move it to Ali al-Sistani, and then make every possible other variation a redirect. This means that it can't be easily moved without an administrator doing so, and the administrator will duly note that people are trying to move it to a name with a title. Similiarly, I have yet to move the Aga Khans to names, so far their articles are still Aga Khan IV, Aga Khan III, and so forth. -- ♥ pashtun ismailiyya 04:26, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
So! Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 04:23, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
In my opinion the whole page should be rewritten, you are right, we should keep the emotional baggage off our backs, let us start one by one, the articles describe the Yezidis as a devil worshiping cult, it has over 12 instances of devil worshipping, you may say that most of the time it is written that they are wrongly called devil worshippers, do we need 12 instances of occurrence then. What if some body writes that xxxx prophet and founder of a particular religion has been wrongly accused to have sex with minor children or xxxx holy book has been wrongly accused to have condoned crimes on prisoners of war including rape of captured women after murder of their prisoner husbands in front of them, and have it repeated over and over on the page?
We need to have a reduction in the wrongly devil worshipper attribution part, as you say to start with? Are you ready to do that?
Don't you think that it is necessary to de-sensationalise the whole article to start with?
Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 04:50, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Even the Iranian encyclopaedia quoted by the article [1] contradicts itself and writes about the pre-Zoroastrian legacy of the Yezidis. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 05:35, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for telling me about the username thing, how upsetting. The link should state Nizari Ismailis are the only Ismailis that don't believe in the Occultation, which is how it was originally written. Mustaali believe it for al-Qasim, and the Druze for al-Hakim. The reason I originally wrote it was to initially distinguish between the "Seveners" and the Ismaili (which is often a confusion, even in Sistani's fatwa!), as well as putting it in there because the Seveners were a historically significant religious community. I believe it should stay in there, because obviously when you click on the Seveners it clearly states that they are most likely extinct. To say he simply died is flying in the face of a very prominent historical religious opinion, I think. -- ♥ pashtun ismailiyya 02:50, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Please comment on the points discussed on the talk:Yazidi page Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 03:46, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
So, let's play guess the Ginan. -- ♥ pashtun ismailiyya 04:37, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Following quotaion is being removed continously by few users(especially one):
“ | One morning Muhammad went out wearing a striped cloak of the black camel's hair that there came Hasan b. 'Ali. He wrapped him under it, then came Husain and he wrapped him under it along with the other one (Hasan). Then came Fatima and he took her under it, then came 'Ali and he also took him under it and then said: Allah only desires to take away any uncleanliness from you, O people of the household, and purify you (thorough purifying). | ” |
— Sahih Muslim, Book 031, Number 5955 |
All editors are envited to have discussion on this issue.
Thanx
-- Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider Rizvi ( talk) 14:36, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Aga Khan IV and Inaara Aga Khan, this person keeps deleting my sources and reverting me! *cries* Help me out! -- ♥ pashtun ismailiyya 22:55, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Dear editor,
Few of us have concluded that this article needs severe cleanup and revamp. Intial steps of this have been started and as of now are underway one task.
You are invited for this activity.
Talk:Ali#Article_cleanup_and_revamp
-- Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider Rizvi ( talk) 09:53, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
I probably misunderstood, revert and replenish. -- ♥ pashtun ismailiyya 03:17, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Dear editor
As I am new to this kind of work I apologize for making such changes without consulting. Some of the comments where irrelevant to the purpose of the post, and some where taken from mis-translated sources that draw incorect conclusions. As I had a previouse contribusion to this page, it was removed completly without previouse alert. I thank you for your time, and humbly request to be guided through this procedure of editing this page without breaking any rules or offending any one. -- A.H.Gaylani ( talk)-- A.H.Gaylani ( talk) 13:32, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
thanks for your welcome, I'm only reverting the edits from XPTO due the vandalism. (take a look at his contribuitions)
peace Sifilis122 ( talk) 13:05, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Just to point out the obvious concidence... ;) The Ogre ( talk) 16:25, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Why did you revert my edits? The introduction to the article was poorly written. Shia disputes with Umar should be put in a single paragraph for the sake of coherence. And for God's sake, it needs to be mentioned that he oversaw the conquest of Persia, Syria, Palestine and Egypt. That's what's most important by far! -- Aghniyya ( talk) 09:45, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm not a Muslim and have no stake in Umar as a figure. I'm an atheist. But he's extremely significant... And, in terms of writing, "however" always needs to have a comma next to it when it interrupts the flow of a sentence. Plus, the introduction to the article includes details that better fit the body. For example, the incident with Fatima could be alluded to in the introduction, but it should not be fully explained. Likewise, his conquests should be alluded to as a reason for his importance, but then explained in the body. Right now, this article seems to be more about religious conflict than history and scholarship. -- Aghniyya ( talk) 09:45, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
And yes Virginia, most the important early Islamic conquests happened under Umar: Jerusalem (638), Ctesiphon the Persian capital (637), Egypt (640), the last great battle with the Persians at Nahavand (642). It would be misleading not to mention these events. Plus, something else in the introduction should allude to his political policies (eg, taxation). Religious controversy is not all that matters here. -- Aghniyya ( talk) 10:07, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
I now included a scholarly source about Umar in the introduction. I moved the detailed episode about Fatima to a section called "Shia views of Umar". You can alter that any way you like, or include it in a different section of the body. It's just too specific for the introduction. -- Aghniyya ( talk) 10:22, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Check Yezidis.
To save you the trouble it reads:
Vogels make up an important Iraqi minority community. Estimates of the size of the Iraqi communities vary significantly, between 70,000 and 500,000. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 06:44, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
I wish you read and comment on the following article about peer review.
Malhotra, Rajeev (2006,02-12),
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Which is why it is always easy to find wp:rs for popular western myths and sheer nonsense but very difficult to find them for anything that disputes them. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 07:01, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
The implication here is that those who are not licensed by their academic system should not be allowed to argue with their positions, and certainly not as equal partners in dialog. This attitude is, in my view, part of a larger problem in academic discourse, especially in anthropology, sociology and the study of religion, where it is assumed that (i) the non-academician can only be positioned as a native informant, and (ii) the native informant should not talk back.
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Indian writers and journalists, being mostly from English Honors, are awed by those who have mastered this use of "theory." Many Indians’ menu of theories includes what I called The Anti-India Grand Narrative in an earlier article.
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(Imagine, by way of analogy, a Chinese anthropologist who learnt only one year of English in his life, and is sent to America to gather data in a bar, at a football game and at a barbeque, and upon his return to China, becomes promoted as the expert on American culture in their higher education system!)
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They have been reluctant to raise certain human rights problems that are being caused by Western culture around the world. For instance, while a serious set of allegations have been made against Henry Kissinger for atrocities in Latin America and other places, this kind of topic is often kept off-limits to the human rights scholarship sponsored by the Ford Foundations, churches and Ivy leagues. The Western origin of many human rights problems is a major area of silence.
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One of my pet ideas was (and still is) the dis-intermediation of publishing (such as Sulekha is attempting) and of certain academic fields such as anthropology. My collision with Prof. Ann Gold in the 1990s (whom Vijay cites as a glorious example of anthropology) was essentially over my public challenge to experiment with dis-intermediation in her work. I proposed that (i) a neutral team should summarize her 20 years of study of Ghatyali village women (in Rajasthan), and present to the villagers in their own language what she had published about them in USA; (ii) the villagers would then have feedback sessions led by their own community leaders to evaluate how authentic Ann’s depictions of them had been, and also to do reverse-anthropology on Ann and her culture; and (iii) the feedback would be videotaped and presented at subsequent AAR conferences as an evaluation of Ann’s work by the very people she was studying. This would be a review by the peer culture. I also offered that The Infinity Foundation would pay the expenses incurred, and that we would then try to use video-conferencing to bring people in India and American students into direct dialogs as peers (with simultaneous language translation). All this, I proposed, could be an exciting experiment to firstly validate Ann’s work, and to secondly advance the field to a new plane of equal interactions between cultures. At a later stage, we would also bring Indic representation systems as lenses into discussions with Western theories.
Unlike Sokal’s Hoax, my proposal was entirely above-board, and I honestly feel that it would have served the field of anthropology had Ann not felt so threatened by the novelty of my proposal. I wanted to test a new kind of anthropology as a dialog of cultures rather than as universalizing the West’s theories. Because I was unwilling to accept Ann Gold’s conclusions about Ghatyali women as being the final word, and because I insisted that the real peers must be the women of Ghatyali (regardless of the fact that Ann has a thousand times more money and power), I was hounded for "attacking" her. This is not the place to describe the furor that resulted, other than mentioning that there were some intimidating moments from some of her aggressive friends who closed ranks against me to defend the fortress
Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 14:11, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
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I award Ogress the The Copyeditor's Barnstar for her contribution on article
Ali al-Hadi. Happy editing!! - Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider Rizvi talk! 09:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC) |
I think "claimed" should be reinserted, just as we would say, "Muhammad claimed to start receiving revelations from the angel Gabriel." Saying "claimed" doesn't imply it is truthful nor that it is incorrect. The Aga Khan's lineage is of some academic scrutiny as well, I think Farhad Daftary denied its validity in fact for sometime. -- Afghana [talk] 22:48, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi Ogress, I saw your recent reversion in the article Sufism. Maybe you might have a look at my comment on the talk page and add to it? See Talk:Sufism#Sufism_and_Islam_(20_June_2009_edit) Thanks, Esowteric | Talk 10:41, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
salaams~
I haven't really been paying attention, but I'm guessing Enzuru is now Afghana? in any case its good to see that you guys are always here.. I was actually hoping you could help do something about this guy.. he's been wreaking havoc and I get the feeling that this is an alternative account. ~ Toushiro 「 話 」 05:01, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Many thanx~ and I have to say your lexicon is quite remarkable.. o_O ~ Toushiro 「 話 」 20:22, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
I think you're the coolest. :) Just saying hi. Johanna-Hypatia ( talk) 12:11, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
I am back, thought it fair to let you know. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 05:05, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Salaams~ been a while, hoping things are ok with you.. just checking back here and already found trouble - any chance of helping me out here.. he keeps reverting to a page that is inaccurate and is missing half of the relevant content.~ Toushiro 「 話 」 02:11, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
I would like you to read my edit reasoning and why I reverted Ogress which you falsely branded as Vandalism. Otherwise I will try to get third opinions involved and try to gain a consensus. Someone65 ( talk) 11:27, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed you posted a comment on the talk age of the following article. I started a new discussion in that issue. You can attend if you want to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Musa_al-Kadhim Kazemita1 ( talk) 20:07, 5 February 2011 (UTC)