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...for your congratulations, and for considering me of course. I will wear the 'shirt' with pride! Cheers, Mattythewhite ( talk) 22:02, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
Please see this thread. Basically, does the three-year binding power of this RfC affect every word of the draft chosen, and could this be a unwanted incentive for shorter drafts? -- Ypnypn ( talk) 20:28, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
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Hi.
I had question I was hoping you can help me with. I read WP:MOVE but it only made me confused. I held an RfC in Talk:Flare (pyrotechnic)#RfC: Is this article the primary topic of "flare"? and the result of the RfC is a consensus that " Flare (pyrotechnic)" is the primary topic of "flare". How can I request an admin to make appropriate renames? There does not seem to be a request template for this specific case.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (
talk) 07:58, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Is it possible to delete my '( 187.12.26.206 ( talk) 15:55, 12 June 2013 (UTC))' log of all past activities and talk page? I have been using this computer which is an shared IP but now it is necessary to move on and create a registered account - autoconfirmed. Or, if is there another way around, is it possible to migrate the log of edits to an registered account? Another reason I'm asking this is that there is a problem with server cookies on this computer, which is administered by the Kurupira FireWall and it messes around wikipedia, for instance, it didnt refresh the edits on my talk page so I have to purge wikipedia's server everytime to end up making disruptive edits. I really appreciate your concern to answer these requests. Thanks again. 187.12.26.206 ( talk) 15:55, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Just giving you a heads-up that I de-listed your binding RFC on the Jereusalem lead from the CENT template, because I saw it as a clear-cut content dispute. Tazerdadog ( talk) 21:31, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi.
I just posted this message to User:Rezonansowy. But given the magnitude of the issue, do you think I should notify ANI?
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (
talk) 00:38, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
HELLO JUST WONDERING WHY U DELETED THE PAGE MARIA TRACY HOLLISTER IM JUST TRYING TO GET IT TO HER AS HER GRANDFATHER IS IN HOSPITAL AND WILL NOT BE COMING HOME WHY WOULD YOU DELETE SOMETHING LIKE THAT DO YOU HAVE NO HEART OR FAMILY
I've semiprotected the talk page for one month, per the continuing activity of IPs from the 71.* range, who I think are all the same person. This is a case of long-term disruption in my opinion, since the person behind these IPs is supremely confident in their views, but nobody else ever agrees with them. The person was previously blocked for a month in January, 2012. I've noticed that you've indefinitely semiprotected the Gold standard article itself, which seems appropriate. Feel free to revise my talk page protection if you think it is not needed. Thanks, EdJohnston ( talk) 19:18, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
Can you tell me why page Igor Krajchev is deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.158.180.249 ( talk) 20:22, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
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The 3 default flag sizes did not set, because empty parameter "size=" cleared the default values, so they need to use #
if:{{{size|}}} instead. See new sub-thread there:
The alignment of labels looks fine now, so only the "|size=..." needs to be redone in those 3 {country_data...} templates. Thanks. - Wikid77 ( talk) 06:31, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello! I had a page in wikipedia that is expired on 23 November of 2012 10:38 now I want o write something new about ourselves in the page but how can we reactive it again? I want it to be undeleted and your helpers said that YOU were aour admin ! shall we create a new page or not? what should I do? thanks waiting for you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.177.53.61 ( talk) 08:28, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi. I lost track of this but just noticed that the RfC has closed. Is it time for the closers to read and conclude? -- regentspark ( comment) 14:50, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi, a new user (Randomuser112) and I had an... altercation at The Dark Knight talk page and I was wondering if you'd mind popping over to his talk page where I've outlined a summary of what I'm trying to get across. I'm not interested in fighting my corner in the requested move, I'm happy to let that run its course, and have disengaged. I'm more after an uninvolved editor with more influence than myself reviewing his behaviour there and giving him a helping hand in understanding what he needs to do to mature. In my opinion, his behaviour (his replies, as well as his deletion of another user's comment that questioned him) demonstrates a lack of knowledge of the guidelines, and that can be understood in a new editor. However, he seems unwilling to take on board any suggestions I make (I am after all, his self-designated enemy out to "childishly disagree" with him), so I'd be really grateful if you, with your mediation experience, could give him a nudge in the right direction so he can avoid such conflict in the future. Thanks in advance! drewmunn talk 07:48, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi, just a heads up that user:Feraess and I have a discussion going on the talk:parkour page on whether freerunning should have its own article, if you'd like to pop in. Please note how extensive the article was] at one point, then got paired down over time to a tiny stub, which was then deleted/redirected by user:Izno on Mar 15 2012. (Here's a direct link to the freerunning page history.) Squish7 ( talk) 03:44, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello. Please take a look at my edit request on [ [1]] Thank you. Daniel the duck ( talk) 23:46, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
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Hello Mr. Stradivarius, Eduemoni has given you a shining smiling star! You see, these things promote WikiLove and hopefully this has made your day better. Spread the Shining Smiling Star whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or someone putting up with some stick at this time. Enjoy! Eduemoni ↑talk↓ 01:08, 1 July 2013 (UTC) |
Aye, no bother. I know how these people can scatter some seeds on the grass occasionally. doktorb words deeds 14:34, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
I'm slightly confused as to why you are doing a blanket reversion of all edits by ConsciousKipper. One article I have on my watchlist is Suffolk County Council election, 2009, and the edits made to that article were constructive ones. Why do they need reverting? Number 5 7 15:18, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
Sure, I'd like to have access. :) -- User 50 09:07, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
I'm sorry to bother you with this, but would you mind evaluating my arguments just now that Feraeass has acted quite inappropriately in basing his edits on his upcoming actions without regard for what should be up tentatively? He's repeated continuously that Freerunning should have its own article as opposed to being represented properly within the Parkour article, hence it should be not mentioned in light of his plans to create/restore the FR article. I've sat here for half a day making justification of what I think the article should be so that it's correct indefinitely, and he sits there and reverts on a minute-to-minute basis explaining that his plans will be executed shortly so I need not worry about the article in the meantime. You don't have to agree about whether or not my edits are appropriate, it's the simple intrinsic structure of his actions that's completely inappropriate. It's one thing if he was making arguments that things should be a certain way even tentatively, but the only reason he gives over and over is based on his upcoming change.
Even if I was wrong, it's just a bit ridiculous to war on a minute-to-minute basis if you have the information that you're going to change things very soon. That is, if I disagreed with an editor on a point he had an argument for yet knew I had a solution to the problem I would execute in mere hours (as he says), I would think it absurd to bicker with him for the few hours until my solution was implemented, short of some horrible vandalism that shouldn't be up even for an hour. He just hasn't said until now that he's hours/days away from a solution, hence the only information I had up until today was that he was planning to implement his solution at some time in the future. If I knew he was changing everything today I doubt I'd have bothered to spend all this time posting and defending my edits. His actions are almost obsessive, monitoring the page minute-to-minute and engaging in an edit war for the few hours until he implements his solution.
No worries if you don't have the time to bother with this, or if you disagree with my interpretation. I'm done with this at this point, though I'll read and take into account anything you have to say on the matter. Squish7 ( talk) 21:08, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
Muhammad Aljedei 07:54, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[ [2]] We are International Turnkey Systems Group page, we need to hide this page from public temporary, can you please provide me with the steps.
I cannot program in Lua but I see you are working on Module:Category handler. I suggest a Lua function and corresponding new stand-alone template to suppress all categories in {{{1}}}. For example, {{Suppresscat|Foo[[Category:Bar1]][[Category:Bar2|sortkey]]}} would only return Foo. The idea is that {{{1}}} can be a transclusion. This would add a new suppression method to Wikipedia:Category suppression without having to edit templates which don't already have category suppression. The system doesn't have to be 100% accurate. It's acceptable if some categories with weird formatting can be overlooked, or category code in nowiki tags or similar can be removed even though the code wouldn't actually have added a category, or the normal display of {{{1}}} can break in certain circumstances. It would be up to editors to check whether it does as wanted in a given situation. Do you like the idea and can you implement it? PrimeHunter ( talk) 23:31, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
{{{foo|[[Category:Bar]]}}}
and [[Category:{{{foo|Bar}}}]]
would already be converted to [[Category:Bar]]
. Also, there's no need to worry about stuff in nowiki tags, as that is converted to a
strip marker anyway, which will save some hassle. I might get around to this some time, but I have a lot of Lua stuff on my plate at the moment, so it won't happen straight away. Best —
Mr. Stradivarius
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{{Replace|{{Guideline}}|[[Category:Wikipedia guidelines|{{PAGENAME}}]]|}}
to display {{
Guideline}} in project space. But this would be complicated for users, and unstable if the template is later modified to produce another category string. A fix of
Bugzilla:835 would have been nice but nothing has happened in 9 years.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 22:36, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi, Mr. Stradivarius, please see the Template talk:Flagicon/core. Maiō T. ( talk) 19:39, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
Strad, can I get you to look at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard#Talk:Morgellons if you're still online? We might need an admin's help there and at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Disruptive editing and intervention. Best regards, TransporterMan ( TALK) 15:51, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello, There's a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aircraft#List of aircraft accidents and incidents resulting in at least 50 fatalities which touches on this edit notice which you created after Godot13 ( talk · contribs) lodged a request. Given that it imposes rather restrictive conditions on editing the article - especially in regards to requiring a reference from the probably-not-reliable Aviation Safety Network - which were not endorsed through a discussion on the article's talk page or at the relevant Wikiproject, on I think that it should probably be disabled or deleted. What do you think? Regards, Nick-D ( talk) 23:53, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
I noticed that you were somehow able to edit NYU Poly. Perhaps you could also add in the introduction: NYU-Poly is also one of the first handful of universites that offered accredited chemical engineering program in the USA. Per http://www.pafko.com/history/h_grow.html http://www.aiche.org/community/students/abet-accredited-universities Regards,-- Siegestaiddrip ( talk) 15:38, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Hey Strad, just wanted to let you know that it's all done. We've implemented the consensus and put up notices in all the appropriate places. Thanks so much for your work setting up this RfC, you have done incredible work. Let me or User:RegentsPark or User:Pgallert know if there are any loose ends. Best, Keilana| Parlez ici 18:33, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
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I've moved this to Template talk:Infobox#Below parameter newlines as quite a few editors will probably be interested in this. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 08:30, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your "thank"! Happy to find someone from the field of Applied linguistics. Hey, I want to share my feeling that topics on this field and second language acquisition are difficult to deal with: there are so many diverging opinions and so much research findings that often it becomes difficult to assimilate and coordinate them to make an article for Wiki. Do you have any suggestion how I can deal with this? Happy to see you created page on Douglas Brown, one of my favorite writers on Language.-- Ascetic Rosé 14:02, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello. It appears one of your fellow admins Yzx and DrE are getting ready to edit war again. I'm a little confused as to why Yzx feels the need to undo the original illustrators input when the majority of people support what they are doing. I'll let you have the final word. Cheers. C. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.56.12.253 ( talk) 18:06, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello. Apparently we have not met... I am DOCTOR Edna. I see your numerous threats regarding riff-raff about your so-called open sourced policies. I AM the expert and you are feeding articles based on OUR work. You should be in awe that I am taking my professional time and donating to this cause. Your admin rights and mouse clicks mean nothing to me and your threats do not phase me. As a scientist, I question your own credentials and what real authority you carry aside from point-click-block. DOCTOREdna — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrEdna ( talk • contribs) 01:06, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
"You and your Wikipedia minuscule authority are kind of a joke. Please stop polluting my talk page. Nobody care that you are a Wikipedia admin and getting blocked from Wikipedia would hardly bring a tear to anybody in real life. DOCTOREdna". Even more glaringly obvious was the edit that caused your warning in the first place. I would contend that the reason the good "DOCTOR" blanked the talk page of 209.56.12.253 is because they are one and the same. @ EVula: I'm sure you would agree that this action, combined with the fact that they both seem to be united in pushing a single-topic agenda since they arrived on the "goblin shark" scene (DrEdna's account was created on June 22, and 209.56.12.253 joined the fray on June 26) is more than enough to warrant an SPI and CU to prove that they are indeed using the same computer at Iowa Western Community College. — Grollτech ( talk) 16:06, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi there. I've noticed it's been a while since you've been active at DRN, and we could really use your help! DRN is going to undergo some changes soon, so it'd really be great if our backlog is cleared before the start of August and we have as many people on board to help with the changes (they include a move to subpages and the creation of a rotating "co-ordinator" role to help manage things day-to-day. Hope to see you soon! Steven Zhang Help resolve disputes! 11:35, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
just fixed a few bugs, see here, if someone else doesn't fix it first. thank you. Frietjes ( talk) 16:54, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Fool! you can't block me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.98.36.65 ( talk) 01:19, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
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Done as per your request: [5]. -- Bhadani ( talk) 19:58, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello.
How do you do? It's been a long time... I wonder if you help me. Could you please undelete the previous revisions of File:Iomega.svg? I am assuming since the image is free, my request is not controversial.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (
talk) 15:32, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Dear Mr. Stradivarius,
I took your remarks about the MyScienceWork page's notability issues into account and give you and the other Wikipedia editors all my thanks for warning the contributors of this page and pointing out what needed to be changed. Please note my changes in the reference section.
I would like to know if these changes meet the conditions mentioned in the Wikipedia's notability guidelines.
I remain at your disposal if you should have any questions concerning this matter.
Estalere ( talk) 19:26, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello Mr. Stradivarius. There is a Lua error being seen by logged-out and non-autoconfirmed users when they try to edit semiprotected pages with nonexistent talk pages (say, this). Do you think you could try to repair it, either in Module:Redirect or MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext? Thanks, — This, that and the other (talk) 09:29, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
I appreciate all the help you gave me on the italics and Scribunto error. I have most of it fixed, except for a change I want to make in the SCOTUS template, its bombing on the Court members section, not sure why at this point, I'm using my sandbox as a test location. I was trying to reverse engineer that portion of it I suppose I could just yank the court membership section out of the template and then just hard code it on the page correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.193.72.15 ( talk) 18:44, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
I'm sure you will know which parts to remove. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.35.210.116 ( talk) 22:40, 15 July 2013 (UTC) ????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.193.72.15 ( talk) 22:14, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Would you mind taking a look at the redirect versus the article of CeCe Frey. Could use a second opinion. Thanks, Mkdw talk 04:27, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
I posted a suggested notice for your consideration at Template talk:Editnotices/Page/Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). Thanks! —[ AlanM1( talk)]— 19:33, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
In the ArbCom proceeding about the TPm article, Xenophrenic is facing a topic ban from all articles related to the Tea Party movement. The vote is currently 2-0. This topic ban is expected to take effect within days. [6]
He's facing this topic ban because of the overwhelming evidence against him regarding his tendentious editing. [7] This includes new evidence of recent editwarring, which led to the current full protection of the article by SilkTork. He violated the 1RR article probation by starting that editwar and, if SilkTork hadn't locked down the article, Xeno would have been facing an immediate block and topic ban for the editwar.
Since he dodged that bullet, he's continued his tendentious behavior on the Moderated Discussion page, unabated. This post on the Moderated Discussion page [8] can only be seen as an act of deliberate provocation and mockery. He appears to be shifting his tendentious behavior into high gear before the topic ban takes effect.
This context is important in reviewing Xeno's objection to the proposed edit about Karl Denninger, and removal of the "Commentaries about origins" section to the "Perceptions" spin-off article. There are four editors in favor of the edit, and Xenophrenic is opposed. Per WP:SCOPE and WP:SUMMARY, the topical scope of an article is pretty much editors' choice; and a strong majority of editors believes that the "Commentaries about origins" belong within the topical scope of the spin-off article, not the main article. Please reconsider your decision. regards .... Phoenix and Winslow ( talk) 21:18, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
You previously blocked Malegaon ( talk · contribs) for repeatedly creating the article Hitesh katara and also Hitesh Katara, and, well, I think you need to block this guy again. Ego White Tray ( talk) 20:11, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
Since you mentioned the oppose rationale, i thought you'd be interested in reading my oppose in WP:Requests for adminship/Adjwilley. Pass a Method talk 01:41, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
<p>...</p>
html tags. Best —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪ 01:46, 28 July 2013 (UTC)Hi Mr. Stradivarius:
Thank you for your work on Wikipedia, but please, don't pull your trigger on pages you do not like so quickly. I started by copying the old page in order to show "history", and I was still in the middle of adding new content to the page, and BAM! You removed the page again. What gives?
Give people time to work on the page instead of shooting down pages within minutes of their creation! Otherwise, it only reinforces the impression that you have a personal bias and have a bone to grind with Minecraft clones like Minetest.
Minetest has now been officially packaged for Debian and Ubuntu, and the Minetest article is available in 5 other languages (German, French, Russian, Chinese, Cantonese) with none of these deletion nonsense.
More references will be added soon. And, if necessary, I will be adding more justifications to the relevant deletion discussions. Just please stop being so trigger-happy in killing pages. Thanks.
Anthony Fok ( talk) 10:11, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
hello Mr. Stradivarius. i recently noticed action you took on the Steve King page that I had previously made an edit on. i saw the reasoning and appreciate that type of intervention. i recently did some work on the Terry McAuliffe page, which had been tagged as having NPOV issues. much of the article had them, and I attempted to repair one section. another user seemed to do the same, but his efforts were altered. i did some looking through the talk page and the history of the article, and it has been a consistent and sustained problem on the article for months. users have taken issue with edits made by the one user and tried to fix them and discuss them on the talk page. but the one user always seems to alter them and inject a non-neutral tone into the article. an edit war is currently taking place over one section in particular.
the scope and length of this issue are different than what happened on the King page, so I don't expect the same action to be taken. but I wondered if there was something that could be done to stop the war and allow the community or those who are interested in fixing the page to repair it without disruption from this user. i hate to bother you or call anyone out but it seems the page hasn't received any useful help against this issue over the past few months and the same issues keep repeating themselves.
here are a few diffs as examples
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Terry_McAuliffe&diff=566440182&oldid=566433050
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Terry_McAuliffe&diff=566075638&oldid=565687673
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Terry_McAuliffe&diff=557750973&oldid=557727250
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Terry_McAuliffe&diff=560392375&oldid=560350306
i appreciate any time and consideration you give to this issue. Mandate41 ( talk) 18:53, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
You need evidence? Really? How about the fact that the "first" edit that user ever made was to welcome himself to Wikipedia (with a seemingly innate knowledge of wiki-markup), followed by the creation of his user page. Fast-forward a few days, and he was quoting policy like a seasoned pro, not to mention the fact that he was "welcoming" other users to a place where had supposedly just arrived himself. I share your disgust for those who immediately scream "sockpuppet" whenever they have a conflict with another user, but calling a spade a spade is something else. Joefromrandb ( talk) 07:25, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
I believe that Wtwilson3's understanding of notability is flawed . . . the comments he directed at me (after I had already made revisions for other editors) were very rude and assuming. I had already made the corrections yet he continues to misinterpret the policy on notability. Please comment. Stmullin ( talk) 12:23, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
It seems that actually the site notice was quite effective. Would you please restore it? Risker ( talk) 14:33, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. Think I've done what you suggested [ [9]] 89.18.81.147 ( talk) 01:59, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi.
I think I need help investigating an issue. Today, I reverted an edit in Template:Di-replaceable fair use disputed/doc in which a user added something that must genuinely go to image description page. The problem is, this is not the first time and this is not the first unique user. We have 564112886, 559110396, 560143332, 560353322, 551967755 and do I need to list the rest too?
I tried communicating with their editors but it's always a fiasco. See this for an example: User talk:Charlesrousseau#Could you please explain this edit?
Is there anything that can be done? (P.S. I've heard admins can add edit notices to pages...)
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (
talk) 11:09, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
{{
di-replaceable fair use disputed}}
link in the speedy deletion notices - see e.g.
this section. That is a nice big link just inviting clicks, and the wording isn't the clearest. Probably the best thing to do would be to update
Template:Di-replaceable fair use-notice to use more understandable language and to make the template page link slightly less appealing to click on, and also to add an edit notice for
Template:Di-replaceable fair use disputed/doc. Those both need admin privileges to do, so you will need to add edit requests at
Template talk:Di-replaceable fair use-notice and
Template talk:Editnotices/Page/Template:Di-replaceable fair use disputed/doc. The {{
editnotice}} template is pretty handy for making edit notices. Does that sound like a good plan of action to you? —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪ 11:40, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
{{
di-replaceable fair use disputed}}
to remove the link, and I've also given it a copy edit. See if you like the new version. I think I'll leave the creation of the edit notice up to you. Once you've made it, I recommend using an edit request, as I might not be around much this weekend. —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪ 03:11, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
{{
Di-replaceable fair use-notice}}
, right? Well, it seems to me this is going to solve the problem altogether. Let's wait and see if it fixes everything. I'll have the page in my watchlist, and if things did not go as planned, I can always file the request. Thanks for everything. Best regards,
Codename Lisa (
talk) 13:17, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
{{
Di-replaceable fair use-notice}}
. Ok, agreed, let's wait and see if that fixes things. —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪ 05:10, 4 August 2013 (UTC)(Award archived)
Hi I would like to convert Template:documentation to lua scripting I am trying it at simple:module:documentation someone help me but doesent know how to do the rest I was wondering could you help me all that needs doing is adding diff and mirror and a few extra things from template:documentation/start box and template:documentation/end box you can also see what it looks like at simple:template:documentation/sandbox 86.159.74.81 ( talk) 12:41, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
After my image request to the template I followed your advice to create a subpage for any new images but I think I either broke something or something doesn't work as it should. I made Template:Portal/Images/Special operations for Portal:Special operations but on the Special operations article the portal at the bottom still shows the generic portal symbol as opposed to the image I added to the template:portal image subpage. Did I do something wrong? Thanks for any assistance you can provide good sir. Cheers, — - dain omite 22:02, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Sorry to bug you again Mr. Stradivarius, does the server cache have to reset or something before the image shows up? It still shows the default portal icon on the
Special operations article. :3 — -
dain
omite 01:56, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi. I just noticed your work on Module:RFX report. Thank you so much! Do you think it's ready to replace the bot? -- MZMcBride ( talk) 03:53, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
I changed it (well, after I botched the first edit) to one of the multiple shortcuts available to make the pop-up menu a little narrower. If you feel that I selected the wrong one, feel free to change it. -- Gogo Dodo ( talk) 05:23, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
I understand that's how the community. I'm trying to expand the website if a individual is looking for a certain article to read about let's for a newspaper or other stuff. That's all I was saying but you are not wrong what are you trying to do but I'm saying on my point of view. Also if you think or others feel that it doesn't meet the standards put it or consider the Wikipedia:Article Incubator. Pmaster12 ( talk) 20:55, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
If you'd like to keep tabs. Thanks for your assistance. -- The Writer 2.0 Talk 21:19, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Have you heard of these names Rashaan Melvin or even Deveron Carr. Have you look other issues around or you just looking at articles on what I did or the other IP users you named? Have you look at other roster navboxes or just New York Jets roster navbox? I'm just making sure you are just not targeting me and my articles I made that's all. Whatever you are trying to accomplish I wish well but I'm just making is not certain issues that's what I was trying to say. Pmaster12 ( talk) 22:35, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Recently the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard underwent some changes in how it operates. Part of the change involved a new list of volunteers with a bit of information about the people behind the names.
You are listed as a volunteer at DRN currently, to update your profile is simple, just click here. Thanks, Cabe 6403( Talk• Sign) 17:20, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
I responded on my talk page. My response wasn't eloquently stated, but it's my thought on the matter. RevanFan ( talk) 17:48, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi, just a heads-up, I proposed a course of action to solve the move/merge brouhaha at Talk:Chittagong Hill Tracts Conflict, but wouldn't want to to act without your input, since you and Mark Arsten have been adminning this so far. Your views would be appreciated. Fut.Perf. ☼ 21:56, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Mr. S, I just came across two really weird redirects. I've never seen this before, so I thought I would check with you to see if you know what's going on. I've been Rcatting redirect shortcuts from the T: pseudonamespace. After Rcatting the mainspace shortcuts, then I check the redirects on the What links here pages. That is how I landed on this Wlh page. Toward the bottom of that page there are two templatespace redirects:
Both of these are redirects to Template talk:Did you know. And both of them seem to have very unusual edit-source pages:
There is, above the edit field box, a set of text the likes of which I've never seen before on an edit page. I realize that I can go ahead and edit these so it seems, however I must wonder about what that text is from and should it somehow be removed from those two edit pages? Is this something you've seen before? – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 00:46, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Can you please put a lock on the TDAS episodes page until the season airs since people keep putting fake eliminations. Plus Courtney and Gwen are on the wrong teams.. The TDAS episodes talkpage would explain this. Thanks. 72.220.176.33 ( talk) 22:16, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
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Hello Mr. Stradivarius, can you help me create a Patna task force for our WikiProject Patna... plssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss? SHIVAM SETU ( U- T- C- E) 05:25, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Mr. Stradivarius:
Hi. I just noticed that the In the News ticker missed the first round of legislative elections in Argentina, held yesterday ( [10]). Would you please consider adding mention of this?
Thank you kindly, 98.166.186.191 ( talk) 16:55, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
I very much appreciate the work you're doing on this page and the other hard work you put in for Wikipedia. But the current consensus is very weak due to so many shady newly registered users and random IPs which have started appearing on the talk page (me and experienced editors such as Factual Proof oppose the use of a range; while Pleasant 1623 weakly support it). There's also an open SPI associated with the dispute. Besides that, it was supposed to be some kind of WP:RFC and all users are given a few days to comment. The consensus is only enforced later on.
Lastly, I've put forward my suggestion on the talk page. You may feel free to check it. Thanks and regards. Fideliosr ( talk) 18:35, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi. My question is simply this: if we make the "acknowledge sources other than Box Office India" exception in this case, will we be able to make the same exception for every other previous and current Hindi film article that has used Box Office India until now? If not, then why, based on views by arbitrary, unregistered IP users and many new members (likely sockpuppets), are we sabotaging uniformity on Wikipedia? Factual Proof ( talk) 19:16, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello Mr. S. I was thinking of closing this move discussion, but realize that I don't know your opinion on the new proposal of WP:Funding Wikipedia through advertisements. If you're in favor, then this might be the consensus; if you're against it then I suspect a relist might be needed since opinion is split across various alternatives. If possible can you add a further comment about this in the discussion? Thanks, EdJohnston ( talk) 01:22, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks so much for helping sort out the issues with the WikiProject NCIS categories. It is very much appreciated. -- 1ST7 ( talk) 23:39, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
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I see you have changed {{ Shared IP address (public)}} as I proposed (thank you for that), would you be opposed to doing the same with {{ Shared IP edu}}, the last remaining of the shared templates to be updated? I have an edit request at the template's talk page just as I had at Template talk:Shared IP address (public), and there haven't been any objections. PCHS-NJROTC (Messages) 20:49, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
I agree with your reverting my reference on the Second-language acquisition#Stages silent period. It wasn't really the right source, but I was desperate to put something to indicate that a silent period is widely considered quite harmful, that people need to listen and speak from the start, not read or even just listen. I'll keep looking for a good source. - Numbersinstitute ( talk) 03:11, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello, Mr. Stradivarius
How do you do?
I kind of need an opinion on this edit of mine. I just reverted a copyright violation, a wholesale copy and paste. Do I need to notify the oversight to strike out the diff in this case?
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (
talk) 22:50, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
oversighters
can.) Worst, it does not highlight any procedure for me, a non-admin, to notify an admin to perform these steps. So, I decided to take the simplest procedure: Calling a dear old admin that is you.AquaCGSB has had speed deltion and i dont think it sould be deleted because it not used for advertisement and not a organisation it become a chartiy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AquaCGSB ( talk • contribs) 14:33, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Greetings, I just wanted to give you a heads up that someone (besides me) has suggested that Template:Portal and Template:Portal bar be merged. The discussion is still ongoing but I see you were the one that created Module:Portal so I wanted to ask if you would be willing to modify that Module to support the functionality in Portal bar as well. Kumioko ( talk) 16:56, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Template:WikiProject United States has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at
the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. I just wanted to give you a heads up since I know you were working on some code to better represent the projects in the template. That functionality will probably not be needed anymore.
Kumioko (
talk) 13:44, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
I don't really know, unless there's some vandalism I'm missing, why this needs to be edit=sysop. Could we try dropping it down to edit=autoconfirmed for a while? ~ Charmlet -talk- 16:43, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Right! I was just preparing a note on that. So now it is OK (esp. removing the internal instruction + option completely). - DePiep ( talk) 10:47, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Nice work your are doing with the modules :-) - I have added a "bug report" at Template_talk:Year_in_other_calendars#Does_not_for_work_for_year.3D551_and_year.3D645_.28script_errors.29, Christian75 ( talk) 10:51, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
I closed the Portal / Portal bar discussion. It looks like the final proposal is either to have both templates use the same lua module, or to have portal bar use the portal bar module. I would say you can do whatever you think is the best option here in terms of easy of coding vs. saving the "job queue". I will leave it to you. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 04:06, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Is it possible to have these three permanently deleted? I can't db-author tag modules. Thanks, — Lfdder ( talk) 07:46, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Please, no. Stop. This is an overkill and smells of the
poltergeist anti-pattern. Repetitive methods like setXXXGrade
unnecessarily blow up code and documentation size and are a violation of the
DRY principle.
Keep it simple, stupid. And most importantly, how is this module supposed to be used now?
Keφr 18:13, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
error("bad argument")
when no data is found. Not generating a whole bunch of code which nobody will be able to work on without access to the generating program.Yes, this is better. Sorry for being so harsh above. But really, I think this approach is bad, and I think I should make it very clear early, before you invest too much time into it.
I am yet to find out what a "trigger" is and why would I need one. Why the grades themselves have to be objects and not just values passed to a banner object. What is the rationale for having banners configured in Lua. How the banners are supposed to use the module, and how to extract configuration data for a given banner in a way that does not involve nightmarish syntax or algorithmically undecidable problems. Stuff like that.
Keφr 07:09, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
The current plan is to configure the banner using a "build" method that takes the config table as a parameter and calls the row objects and assessmentScale objects recursively. After that, the banner object will know all of its configuration, but won't know anything about the template that called it. At this point I plan to output the documentation, the TemplateData, and maybe a separate JSON object if TemplateData still isn't working for you. (I think features have been added to it since we last spoke about it - have you looked to see if it does more of what you want now?) After outputting the docs, the banner object will call the export method with the arguments from the calling template to generate the banner wikitext. This method will recursively call the export methods from the other objects, so that each object is responsible for outputting its own wikitext.
A trigger, by the way, is the value that you have to send to the |class=
or |importance=
parameters to trigger the display of a certain grade. So, for example, the trigger for the FA class is "fa", and a project who wanted to roll their own "Module" class could add triggers of "module" and "mod", so that the class would be triggered either by the code |class=module
or |class=mod
. This seems like necessary functionality to me, although perhaps the name could be clearer. If you have a better suggestion than "trigger", let me know.
The rationale for moving configuration into the module namespace is that the performance will be much better. It might not make much difference for small banners, but for larger banners I predict that there would be a substantial gain in speed by having the configuration in Lua. This is why Scribunto was implemented with access to the parent arguments of a frame (I linked to the design document in my earlier post), and it would be a shame not to use the feature. Have a look at User:Dragons flight/Lua performance for some statistics about the speed of templates vs. Lua. Also, you linked to WP:PERFORMANCE in your earlier post, but actually it says that we should worry about performance in the case of templates that affect millions of pages. In particular, Tim Starling's quote near the bottom says "Particularly in the area of template design, optimising server performance is important, and it's frequently done by users with a great amount of impact." (Tim is also the one who drew up the Lua design document.)
Anyway, that's probably enough from me for now. If you can hold out for a bit longer, I should have some actual code so that you can have a better idea of what I'm talking about regarding the module structure. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:45, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
|class=high
and |importance=FA
? As for the performance bit — fair point. Also, I have not seen any features regarding the configuration data. I should probably see that new code. I would be fine with something similar to
wikt:Module:JSON data I wrote for Wiktionary: a function I could invoke through the API, give it a list of templates whose configuration data I want, and get a JSON object or whatever back.|class=high
etc. is prevented by putting quality scale config in a child object of assessmentScale named qualityScale. Although if you really wanted to I suppose you could define it as a custom grade. I agree that template code is more familiar to editors, and I intend to keep it available as an option, although I think Lua should be the recommended choice. As for the code location, you could use e.g. {{
lua}} to make it obvious where the module is; also, you would still be able to protect modules individually, so that wouldn't change from the current situation. —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪ 11:48, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
mw.loadData
. When we get that figured out, writing code to connect the dots will be relatively easy. We can even do away with object-orientation completely. Grab the banner configuration, grab template parameters, figure out how to make sense of them using the configuration data, warn about unused parameters, and you are done.return { --[[ ...stuff... ]] }
.render_banner
, render_docs
and export_data
. Template code would look like:{{#invoke:WikiProjectBanner|render_banner|{{PAGENAME}}}}<noinclude> {{#invoke:WikiProjectBanner|render_docs|{{PAGENAME}}}} <!-- edit [[Module:WikiProjectBanner/banners/{{subst:PAGENAME}}]] to change banner settings -->
render_docs
would also generate TemplateData object, while export_data
would take a "version" named argument and a variable number of positional arguments and generate a JSON object with data for the banners requested. Basically, to be used with
mw:API:Expandtemplates. (I think TemplateData does not allow custom fields, while in Rater I will need to understand not only what parameters are available and what are their names, but also how to present them, group them, etc. I explained some of that already on
Template talk:WPBannerMeta.)
Keφr 12:30, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
loadData
, needed understanding how to set the template parameters correctly, while /hooks/ will contain functions called at various stages while rendering the banner/documentation/exporting data. The /hooks/ space will be used for purely visual or more experimental features. Also, some keys in the configuration table could be simply ignored, or specially designated for private use, and just passed without changing in export_data
. Or some combination of those.Ok, I followed your suggestion of starting from the banner config files, and I have to say it does make things clearer. I started off with
WikiProject Women scientists, which was simplicity itself, and went on to
WikiProject Linguistics, which was also easy. I ran into significant problems when I tried to make some sense of
WikiProject Biography, however. The problem is that the template parameters are used to generate the configuration data in a way that is very hard to separate. For example, the main text changes depending on whether the |living=
parameter is set; the Arts and Entertainment work group is displayed using the |a&e-work-group=
parameter, but not if either the |filmbio-work-group=
parameter or the |musician-work-group=
parameters are set; etc., etc. Have a look at the code - I've commented out all the bits that I couldn't think how to convert. I'm not really seeing how this kind of thing can be dealt with using the hook/private-key system you mentioned in your last message. Do you have any ideas on how to do it, or possibly an example? Best —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪ 13:21, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
|text-blurb=
, |text-blurb-topic=
, etc. in my old version.) The philosophy is: the configuration data should be generic and reusable; if some piece of information is needed to understand how to use the banner, it must be in the configuration data; rendering, categories and cosmetic features (like the blurb text, i.e. "This article is supported by…") can be handled by hooks, but if there is a nice generic way to do something, do it.local function grab_hooks(banner_name)
local success, hooks = pcall(require, 'Module:WikiProjectBanner/hooks/' .. banner_name)
-- see <http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-pcall>
-- pcall has been restricted here a bit, but this particular usage works
if success then
return hooks
end
return { } -- yes, we have no neutrons
end
if hooks.whatever then hooks.whatever(frame, ...) else --[=[ do it the generic way ]=] end
. Or first we do whatever we think is reasonable, and then ask the hook to override the generic behaviour. Whichever works best. I imagine we would have a table of categories in which the talk page should be put, a table for snippets of generated banner mark-up, a table matching the generated mark-up blocks with task forces/notes/requests, etc. And we pass all these tables to the hook (by reference, because Lua passes all tables by reference), and let it modify them however it pleases. In the end we combine all the data in our tables and generate the final markup.![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
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...for your congratulations, and for considering me of course. I will wear the 'shirt' with pride! Cheers, Mattythewhite ( talk) 22:02, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
Please see this thread. Basically, does the three-year binding power of this RfC affect every word of the draft chosen, and could this be a unwanted incentive for shorter drafts? -- Ypnypn ( talk) 20:28, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
(barnstar archived)
Hi.
I had question I was hoping you can help me with. I read WP:MOVE but it only made me confused. I held an RfC in Talk:Flare (pyrotechnic)#RfC: Is this article the primary topic of "flare"? and the result of the RfC is a consensus that " Flare (pyrotechnic)" is the primary topic of "flare". How can I request an admin to make appropriate renames? There does not seem to be a request template for this specific case.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (
talk) 07:58, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Is it possible to delete my '( 187.12.26.206 ( talk) 15:55, 12 June 2013 (UTC))' log of all past activities and talk page? I have been using this computer which is an shared IP but now it is necessary to move on and create a registered account - autoconfirmed. Or, if is there another way around, is it possible to migrate the log of edits to an registered account? Another reason I'm asking this is that there is a problem with server cookies on this computer, which is administered by the Kurupira FireWall and it messes around wikipedia, for instance, it didnt refresh the edits on my talk page so I have to purge wikipedia's server everytime to end up making disruptive edits. I really appreciate your concern to answer these requests. Thanks again. 187.12.26.206 ( talk) 15:55, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Just giving you a heads-up that I de-listed your binding RFC on the Jereusalem lead from the CENT template, because I saw it as a clear-cut content dispute. Tazerdadog ( talk) 21:31, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi.
I just posted this message to User:Rezonansowy. But given the magnitude of the issue, do you think I should notify ANI?
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (
talk) 00:38, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
HELLO JUST WONDERING WHY U DELETED THE PAGE MARIA TRACY HOLLISTER IM JUST TRYING TO GET IT TO HER AS HER GRANDFATHER IS IN HOSPITAL AND WILL NOT BE COMING HOME WHY WOULD YOU DELETE SOMETHING LIKE THAT DO YOU HAVE NO HEART OR FAMILY
I've semiprotected the talk page for one month, per the continuing activity of IPs from the 71.* range, who I think are all the same person. This is a case of long-term disruption in my opinion, since the person behind these IPs is supremely confident in their views, but nobody else ever agrees with them. The person was previously blocked for a month in January, 2012. I've noticed that you've indefinitely semiprotected the Gold standard article itself, which seems appropriate. Feel free to revise my talk page protection if you think it is not needed. Thanks, EdJohnston ( talk) 19:18, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
Can you tell me why page Igor Krajchev is deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.158.180.249 ( talk) 20:22, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
(barnstar archived - text was about my promise to rewrite Template:WPBannerMeta in Lua)
The 3 default flag sizes did not set, because empty parameter "size=" cleared the default values, so they need to use #
if:{{{size|}}} instead. See new sub-thread there:
The alignment of labels looks fine now, so only the "|size=..." needs to be redone in those 3 {country_data...} templates. Thanks. - Wikid77 ( talk) 06:31, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello! I had a page in wikipedia that is expired on 23 November of 2012 10:38 now I want o write something new about ourselves in the page but how can we reactive it again? I want it to be undeleted and your helpers said that YOU were aour admin ! shall we create a new page or not? what should I do? thanks waiting for you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.177.53.61 ( talk) 08:28, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi. I lost track of this but just noticed that the RfC has closed. Is it time for the closers to read and conclude? -- regentspark ( comment) 14:50, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi, a new user (Randomuser112) and I had an... altercation at The Dark Knight talk page and I was wondering if you'd mind popping over to his talk page where I've outlined a summary of what I'm trying to get across. I'm not interested in fighting my corner in the requested move, I'm happy to let that run its course, and have disengaged. I'm more after an uninvolved editor with more influence than myself reviewing his behaviour there and giving him a helping hand in understanding what he needs to do to mature. In my opinion, his behaviour (his replies, as well as his deletion of another user's comment that questioned him) demonstrates a lack of knowledge of the guidelines, and that can be understood in a new editor. However, he seems unwilling to take on board any suggestions I make (I am after all, his self-designated enemy out to "childishly disagree" with him), so I'd be really grateful if you, with your mediation experience, could give him a nudge in the right direction so he can avoid such conflict in the future. Thanks in advance! drewmunn talk 07:48, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi, just a heads up that user:Feraess and I have a discussion going on the talk:parkour page on whether freerunning should have its own article, if you'd like to pop in. Please note how extensive the article was] at one point, then got paired down over time to a tiny stub, which was then deleted/redirected by user:Izno on Mar 15 2012. (Here's a direct link to the freerunning page history.) Squish7 ( talk) 03:44, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello. Please take a look at my edit request on [ [1]] Thank you. Daniel the duck ( talk) 23:46, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
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Hello Mr. Stradivarius, Eduemoni has given you a shining smiling star! You see, these things promote WikiLove and hopefully this has made your day better. Spread the Shining Smiling Star whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or someone putting up with some stick at this time. Enjoy! Eduemoni ↑talk↓ 01:08, 1 July 2013 (UTC) |
Aye, no bother. I know how these people can scatter some seeds on the grass occasionally. doktorb words deeds 14:34, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
I'm slightly confused as to why you are doing a blanket reversion of all edits by ConsciousKipper. One article I have on my watchlist is Suffolk County Council election, 2009, and the edits made to that article were constructive ones. Why do they need reverting? Number 5 7 15:18, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
Sure, I'd like to have access. :) -- User 50 09:07, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
I'm sorry to bother you with this, but would you mind evaluating my arguments just now that Feraeass has acted quite inappropriately in basing his edits on his upcoming actions without regard for what should be up tentatively? He's repeated continuously that Freerunning should have its own article as opposed to being represented properly within the Parkour article, hence it should be not mentioned in light of his plans to create/restore the FR article. I've sat here for half a day making justification of what I think the article should be so that it's correct indefinitely, and he sits there and reverts on a minute-to-minute basis explaining that his plans will be executed shortly so I need not worry about the article in the meantime. You don't have to agree about whether or not my edits are appropriate, it's the simple intrinsic structure of his actions that's completely inappropriate. It's one thing if he was making arguments that things should be a certain way even tentatively, but the only reason he gives over and over is based on his upcoming change.
Even if I was wrong, it's just a bit ridiculous to war on a minute-to-minute basis if you have the information that you're going to change things very soon. That is, if I disagreed with an editor on a point he had an argument for yet knew I had a solution to the problem I would execute in mere hours (as he says), I would think it absurd to bicker with him for the few hours until my solution was implemented, short of some horrible vandalism that shouldn't be up even for an hour. He just hasn't said until now that he's hours/days away from a solution, hence the only information I had up until today was that he was planning to implement his solution at some time in the future. If I knew he was changing everything today I doubt I'd have bothered to spend all this time posting and defending my edits. His actions are almost obsessive, monitoring the page minute-to-minute and engaging in an edit war for the few hours until he implements his solution.
No worries if you don't have the time to bother with this, or if you disagree with my interpretation. I'm done with this at this point, though I'll read and take into account anything you have to say on the matter. Squish7 ( talk) 21:08, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
Muhammad Aljedei 07:54, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[ [2]] We are International Turnkey Systems Group page, we need to hide this page from public temporary, can you please provide me with the steps.
I cannot program in Lua but I see you are working on Module:Category handler. I suggest a Lua function and corresponding new stand-alone template to suppress all categories in {{{1}}}. For example, {{Suppresscat|Foo[[Category:Bar1]][[Category:Bar2|sortkey]]}} would only return Foo. The idea is that {{{1}}} can be a transclusion. This would add a new suppression method to Wikipedia:Category suppression without having to edit templates which don't already have category suppression. The system doesn't have to be 100% accurate. It's acceptable if some categories with weird formatting can be overlooked, or category code in nowiki tags or similar can be removed even though the code wouldn't actually have added a category, or the normal display of {{{1}}} can break in certain circumstances. It would be up to editors to check whether it does as wanted in a given situation. Do you like the idea and can you implement it? PrimeHunter ( talk) 23:31, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
{{{foo|[[Category:Bar]]}}}
and [[Category:{{{foo|Bar}}}]]
would already be converted to [[Category:Bar]]
. Also, there's no need to worry about stuff in nowiki tags, as that is converted to a
strip marker anyway, which will save some hassle. I might get around to this some time, but I have a lot of Lua stuff on my plate at the moment, so it won't happen straight away. Best —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪ 09:22, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
{{Replace|{{Guideline}}|[[Category:Wikipedia guidelines|{{PAGENAME}}]]|}}
to display {{
Guideline}} in project space. But this would be complicated for users, and unstable if the template is later modified to produce another category string. A fix of
Bugzilla:835 would have been nice but nothing has happened in 9 years.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 22:36, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi, Mr. Stradivarius, please see the Template talk:Flagicon/core. Maiō T. ( talk) 19:39, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
Strad, can I get you to look at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard#Talk:Morgellons if you're still online? We might need an admin's help there and at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Disruptive editing and intervention. Best regards, TransporterMan ( TALK) 15:51, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello, There's a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aircraft#List of aircraft accidents and incidents resulting in at least 50 fatalities which touches on this edit notice which you created after Godot13 ( talk · contribs) lodged a request. Given that it imposes rather restrictive conditions on editing the article - especially in regards to requiring a reference from the probably-not-reliable Aviation Safety Network - which were not endorsed through a discussion on the article's talk page or at the relevant Wikiproject, on I think that it should probably be disabled or deleted. What do you think? Regards, Nick-D ( talk) 23:53, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
I noticed that you were somehow able to edit NYU Poly. Perhaps you could also add in the introduction: NYU-Poly is also one of the first handful of universites that offered accredited chemical engineering program in the USA. Per http://www.pafko.com/history/h_grow.html http://www.aiche.org/community/students/abet-accredited-universities Regards,-- Siegestaiddrip ( talk) 15:38, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Hey Strad, just wanted to let you know that it's all done. We've implemented the consensus and put up notices in all the appropriate places. Thanks so much for your work setting up this RfC, you have done incredible work. Let me or User:RegentsPark or User:Pgallert know if there are any loose ends. Best, Keilana| Parlez ici 18:33, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
(barnstar archived)
I've moved this to Template talk:Infobox#Below parameter newlines as quite a few editors will probably be interested in this. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 08:30, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your "thank"! Happy to find someone from the field of Applied linguistics. Hey, I want to share my feeling that topics on this field and second language acquisition are difficult to deal with: there are so many diverging opinions and so much research findings that often it becomes difficult to assimilate and coordinate them to make an article for Wiki. Do you have any suggestion how I can deal with this? Happy to see you created page on Douglas Brown, one of my favorite writers on Language.-- Ascetic Rosé 14:02, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello. It appears one of your fellow admins Yzx and DrE are getting ready to edit war again. I'm a little confused as to why Yzx feels the need to undo the original illustrators input when the majority of people support what they are doing. I'll let you have the final word. Cheers. C. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.56.12.253 ( talk) 18:06, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello. Apparently we have not met... I am DOCTOR Edna. I see your numerous threats regarding riff-raff about your so-called open sourced policies. I AM the expert and you are feeding articles based on OUR work. You should be in awe that I am taking my professional time and donating to this cause. Your admin rights and mouse clicks mean nothing to me and your threats do not phase me. As a scientist, I question your own credentials and what real authority you carry aside from point-click-block. DOCTOREdna — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrEdna ( talk • contribs) 01:06, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
"You and your Wikipedia minuscule authority are kind of a joke. Please stop polluting my talk page. Nobody care that you are a Wikipedia admin and getting blocked from Wikipedia would hardly bring a tear to anybody in real life. DOCTOREdna". Even more glaringly obvious was the edit that caused your warning in the first place. I would contend that the reason the good "DOCTOR" blanked the talk page of 209.56.12.253 is because they are one and the same. @ EVula: I'm sure you would agree that this action, combined with the fact that they both seem to be united in pushing a single-topic agenda since they arrived on the "goblin shark" scene (DrEdna's account was created on June 22, and 209.56.12.253 joined the fray on June 26) is more than enough to warrant an SPI and CU to prove that they are indeed using the same computer at Iowa Western Community College. — Grollτech ( talk) 16:06, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi there. I've noticed it's been a while since you've been active at DRN, and we could really use your help! DRN is going to undergo some changes soon, so it'd really be great if our backlog is cleared before the start of August and we have as many people on board to help with the changes (they include a move to subpages and the creation of a rotating "co-ordinator" role to help manage things day-to-day. Hope to see you soon! Steven Zhang Help resolve disputes! 11:35, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
just fixed a few bugs, see here, if someone else doesn't fix it first. thank you. Frietjes ( talk) 16:54, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Fool! you can't block me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.98.36.65 ( talk) 01:19, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
(barnstar archived)
Done as per your request: [5]. -- Bhadani ( talk) 19:58, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello.
How do you do? It's been a long time... I wonder if you help me. Could you please undelete the previous revisions of File:Iomega.svg? I am assuming since the image is free, my request is not controversial.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (
talk) 15:32, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Dear Mr. Stradivarius,
I took your remarks about the MyScienceWork page's notability issues into account and give you and the other Wikipedia editors all my thanks for warning the contributors of this page and pointing out what needed to be changed. Please note my changes in the reference section.
I would like to know if these changes meet the conditions mentioned in the Wikipedia's notability guidelines.
I remain at your disposal if you should have any questions concerning this matter.
Estalere ( talk) 19:26, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello Mr. Stradivarius. There is a Lua error being seen by logged-out and non-autoconfirmed users when they try to edit semiprotected pages with nonexistent talk pages (say, this). Do you think you could try to repair it, either in Module:Redirect or MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext? Thanks, — This, that and the other (talk) 09:29, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
I appreciate all the help you gave me on the italics and Scribunto error. I have most of it fixed, except for a change I want to make in the SCOTUS template, its bombing on the Court members section, not sure why at this point, I'm using my sandbox as a test location. I was trying to reverse engineer that portion of it I suppose I could just yank the court membership section out of the template and then just hard code it on the page correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.193.72.15 ( talk) 18:44, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
I'm sure you will know which parts to remove. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.35.210.116 ( talk) 22:40, 15 July 2013 (UTC) ????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.193.72.15 ( talk) 22:14, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Would you mind taking a look at the redirect versus the article of CeCe Frey. Could use a second opinion. Thanks, Mkdw talk 04:27, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
I posted a suggested notice for your consideration at Template talk:Editnotices/Page/Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). Thanks! —[ AlanM1( talk)]— 19:33, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
In the ArbCom proceeding about the TPm article, Xenophrenic is facing a topic ban from all articles related to the Tea Party movement. The vote is currently 2-0. This topic ban is expected to take effect within days. [6]
He's facing this topic ban because of the overwhelming evidence against him regarding his tendentious editing. [7] This includes new evidence of recent editwarring, which led to the current full protection of the article by SilkTork. He violated the 1RR article probation by starting that editwar and, if SilkTork hadn't locked down the article, Xeno would have been facing an immediate block and topic ban for the editwar.
Since he dodged that bullet, he's continued his tendentious behavior on the Moderated Discussion page, unabated. This post on the Moderated Discussion page [8] can only be seen as an act of deliberate provocation and mockery. He appears to be shifting his tendentious behavior into high gear before the topic ban takes effect.
This context is important in reviewing Xeno's objection to the proposed edit about Karl Denninger, and removal of the "Commentaries about origins" section to the "Perceptions" spin-off article. There are four editors in favor of the edit, and Xenophrenic is opposed. Per WP:SCOPE and WP:SUMMARY, the topical scope of an article is pretty much editors' choice; and a strong majority of editors believes that the "Commentaries about origins" belong within the topical scope of the spin-off article, not the main article. Please reconsider your decision. regards .... Phoenix and Winslow ( talk) 21:18, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
You previously blocked Malegaon ( talk · contribs) for repeatedly creating the article Hitesh katara and also Hitesh Katara, and, well, I think you need to block this guy again. Ego White Tray ( talk) 20:11, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
Since you mentioned the oppose rationale, i thought you'd be interested in reading my oppose in WP:Requests for adminship/Adjwilley. Pass a Method talk 01:41, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
<p>...</p>
html tags. Best —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪ 01:46, 28 July 2013 (UTC)Hi Mr. Stradivarius:
Thank you for your work on Wikipedia, but please, don't pull your trigger on pages you do not like so quickly. I started by copying the old page in order to show "history", and I was still in the middle of adding new content to the page, and BAM! You removed the page again. What gives?
Give people time to work on the page instead of shooting down pages within minutes of their creation! Otherwise, it only reinforces the impression that you have a personal bias and have a bone to grind with Minecraft clones like Minetest.
Minetest has now been officially packaged for Debian and Ubuntu, and the Minetest article is available in 5 other languages (German, French, Russian, Chinese, Cantonese) with none of these deletion nonsense.
More references will be added soon. And, if necessary, I will be adding more justifications to the relevant deletion discussions. Just please stop being so trigger-happy in killing pages. Thanks.
Anthony Fok ( talk) 10:11, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
hello Mr. Stradivarius. i recently noticed action you took on the Steve King page that I had previously made an edit on. i saw the reasoning and appreciate that type of intervention. i recently did some work on the Terry McAuliffe page, which had been tagged as having NPOV issues. much of the article had them, and I attempted to repair one section. another user seemed to do the same, but his efforts were altered. i did some looking through the talk page and the history of the article, and it has been a consistent and sustained problem on the article for months. users have taken issue with edits made by the one user and tried to fix them and discuss them on the talk page. but the one user always seems to alter them and inject a non-neutral tone into the article. an edit war is currently taking place over one section in particular.
the scope and length of this issue are different than what happened on the King page, so I don't expect the same action to be taken. but I wondered if there was something that could be done to stop the war and allow the community or those who are interested in fixing the page to repair it without disruption from this user. i hate to bother you or call anyone out but it seems the page hasn't received any useful help against this issue over the past few months and the same issues keep repeating themselves.
here are a few diffs as examples
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Terry_McAuliffe&diff=566440182&oldid=566433050
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Terry_McAuliffe&diff=566075638&oldid=565687673
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Terry_McAuliffe&diff=557750973&oldid=557727250
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Terry_McAuliffe&diff=560392375&oldid=560350306
i appreciate any time and consideration you give to this issue. Mandate41 ( talk) 18:53, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
You need evidence? Really? How about the fact that the "first" edit that user ever made was to welcome himself to Wikipedia (with a seemingly innate knowledge of wiki-markup), followed by the creation of his user page. Fast-forward a few days, and he was quoting policy like a seasoned pro, not to mention the fact that he was "welcoming" other users to a place where had supposedly just arrived himself. I share your disgust for those who immediately scream "sockpuppet" whenever they have a conflict with another user, but calling a spade a spade is something else. Joefromrandb ( talk) 07:25, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
I believe that Wtwilson3's understanding of notability is flawed . . . the comments he directed at me (after I had already made revisions for other editors) were very rude and assuming. I had already made the corrections yet he continues to misinterpret the policy on notability. Please comment. Stmullin ( talk) 12:23, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
It seems that actually the site notice was quite effective. Would you please restore it? Risker ( talk) 14:33, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. Think I've done what you suggested [ [9]] 89.18.81.147 ( talk) 01:59, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi.
I think I need help investigating an issue. Today, I reverted an edit in Template:Di-replaceable fair use disputed/doc in which a user added something that must genuinely go to image description page. The problem is, this is not the first time and this is not the first unique user. We have 564112886, 559110396, 560143332, 560353322, 551967755 and do I need to list the rest too?
I tried communicating with their editors but it's always a fiasco. See this for an example: User talk:Charlesrousseau#Could you please explain this edit?
Is there anything that can be done? (P.S. I've heard admins can add edit notices to pages...)
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (
talk) 11:09, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
{{
di-replaceable fair use disputed}}
link in the speedy deletion notices - see e.g.
this section. That is a nice big link just inviting clicks, and the wording isn't the clearest. Probably the best thing to do would be to update
Template:Di-replaceable fair use-notice to use more understandable language and to make the template page link slightly less appealing to click on, and also to add an edit notice for
Template:Di-replaceable fair use disputed/doc. Those both need admin privileges to do, so you will need to add edit requests at
Template talk:Di-replaceable fair use-notice and
Template talk:Editnotices/Page/Template:Di-replaceable fair use disputed/doc. The {{
editnotice}} template is pretty handy for making edit notices. Does that sound like a good plan of action to you? —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪ 11:40, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
{{
di-replaceable fair use disputed}}
to remove the link, and I've also given it a copy edit. See if you like the new version. I think I'll leave the creation of the edit notice up to you. Once you've made it, I recommend using an edit request, as I might not be around much this weekend. —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪ 03:11, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
{{
Di-replaceable fair use-notice}}
, right? Well, it seems to me this is going to solve the problem altogether. Let's wait and see if it fixes everything. I'll have the page in my watchlist, and if things did not go as planned, I can always file the request. Thanks for everything. Best regards,
Codename Lisa (
talk) 13:17, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
{{
Di-replaceable fair use-notice}}
. Ok, agreed, let's wait and see if that fixes things. —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪ 05:10, 4 August 2013 (UTC)(Award archived)
Hi I would like to convert Template:documentation to lua scripting I am trying it at simple:module:documentation someone help me but doesent know how to do the rest I was wondering could you help me all that needs doing is adding diff and mirror and a few extra things from template:documentation/start box and template:documentation/end box you can also see what it looks like at simple:template:documentation/sandbox 86.159.74.81 ( talk) 12:41, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
After my image request to the template I followed your advice to create a subpage for any new images but I think I either broke something or something doesn't work as it should. I made Template:Portal/Images/Special operations for Portal:Special operations but on the Special operations article the portal at the bottom still shows the generic portal symbol as opposed to the image I added to the template:portal image subpage. Did I do something wrong? Thanks for any assistance you can provide good sir. Cheers, — - dain omite 22:02, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Sorry to bug you again Mr. Stradivarius, does the server cache have to reset or something before the image shows up? It still shows the default portal icon on the
Special operations article. :3 — -
dain
omite 01:56, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi. I just noticed your work on Module:RFX report. Thank you so much! Do you think it's ready to replace the bot? -- MZMcBride ( talk) 03:53, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
I changed it (well, after I botched the first edit) to one of the multiple shortcuts available to make the pop-up menu a little narrower. If you feel that I selected the wrong one, feel free to change it. -- Gogo Dodo ( talk) 05:23, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
I understand that's how the community. I'm trying to expand the website if a individual is looking for a certain article to read about let's for a newspaper or other stuff. That's all I was saying but you are not wrong what are you trying to do but I'm saying on my point of view. Also if you think or others feel that it doesn't meet the standards put it or consider the Wikipedia:Article Incubator. Pmaster12 ( talk) 20:55, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
If you'd like to keep tabs. Thanks for your assistance. -- The Writer 2.0 Talk 21:19, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Have you heard of these names Rashaan Melvin or even Deveron Carr. Have you look other issues around or you just looking at articles on what I did or the other IP users you named? Have you look at other roster navboxes or just New York Jets roster navbox? I'm just making sure you are just not targeting me and my articles I made that's all. Whatever you are trying to accomplish I wish well but I'm just making is not certain issues that's what I was trying to say. Pmaster12 ( talk) 22:35, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Recently the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard underwent some changes in how it operates. Part of the change involved a new list of volunteers with a bit of information about the people behind the names.
You are listed as a volunteer at DRN currently, to update your profile is simple, just click here. Thanks, Cabe 6403( Talk• Sign) 17:20, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
I responded on my talk page. My response wasn't eloquently stated, but it's my thought on the matter. RevanFan ( talk) 17:48, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi, just a heads-up, I proposed a course of action to solve the move/merge brouhaha at Talk:Chittagong Hill Tracts Conflict, but wouldn't want to to act without your input, since you and Mark Arsten have been adminning this so far. Your views would be appreciated. Fut.Perf. ☼ 21:56, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Mr. S, I just came across two really weird redirects. I've never seen this before, so I thought I would check with you to see if you know what's going on. I've been Rcatting redirect shortcuts from the T: pseudonamespace. After Rcatting the mainspace shortcuts, then I check the redirects on the What links here pages. That is how I landed on this Wlh page. Toward the bottom of that page there are two templatespace redirects:
Both of these are redirects to Template talk:Did you know. And both of them seem to have very unusual edit-source pages:
There is, above the edit field box, a set of text the likes of which I've never seen before on an edit page. I realize that I can go ahead and edit these so it seems, however I must wonder about what that text is from and should it somehow be removed from those two edit pages? Is this something you've seen before? – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 00:46, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Can you please put a lock on the TDAS episodes page until the season airs since people keep putting fake eliminations. Plus Courtney and Gwen are on the wrong teams.. The TDAS episodes talkpage would explain this. Thanks. 72.220.176.33 ( talk) 22:16, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
(barnstar archived)
Hello Mr. Stradivarius, can you help me create a Patna task force for our WikiProject Patna... plssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss? SHIVAM SETU ( U- T- C- E) 05:25, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Mr. Stradivarius:
Hi. I just noticed that the In the News ticker missed the first round of legislative elections in Argentina, held yesterday ( [10]). Would you please consider adding mention of this?
Thank you kindly, 98.166.186.191 ( talk) 16:55, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
I very much appreciate the work you're doing on this page and the other hard work you put in for Wikipedia. But the current consensus is very weak due to so many shady newly registered users and random IPs which have started appearing on the talk page (me and experienced editors such as Factual Proof oppose the use of a range; while Pleasant 1623 weakly support it). There's also an open SPI associated with the dispute. Besides that, it was supposed to be some kind of WP:RFC and all users are given a few days to comment. The consensus is only enforced later on.
Lastly, I've put forward my suggestion on the talk page. You may feel free to check it. Thanks and regards. Fideliosr ( talk) 18:35, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi. My question is simply this: if we make the "acknowledge sources other than Box Office India" exception in this case, will we be able to make the same exception for every other previous and current Hindi film article that has used Box Office India until now? If not, then why, based on views by arbitrary, unregistered IP users and many new members (likely sockpuppets), are we sabotaging uniformity on Wikipedia? Factual Proof ( talk) 19:16, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello Mr. S. I was thinking of closing this move discussion, but realize that I don't know your opinion on the new proposal of WP:Funding Wikipedia through advertisements. If you're in favor, then this might be the consensus; if you're against it then I suspect a relist might be needed since opinion is split across various alternatives. If possible can you add a further comment about this in the discussion? Thanks, EdJohnston ( talk) 01:22, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks so much for helping sort out the issues with the WikiProject NCIS categories. It is very much appreciated. -- 1ST7 ( talk) 23:39, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
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I see you have changed {{ Shared IP address (public)}} as I proposed (thank you for that), would you be opposed to doing the same with {{ Shared IP edu}}, the last remaining of the shared templates to be updated? I have an edit request at the template's talk page just as I had at Template talk:Shared IP address (public), and there haven't been any objections. PCHS-NJROTC (Messages) 20:49, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
I agree with your reverting my reference on the Second-language acquisition#Stages silent period. It wasn't really the right source, but I was desperate to put something to indicate that a silent period is widely considered quite harmful, that people need to listen and speak from the start, not read or even just listen. I'll keep looking for a good source. - Numbersinstitute ( talk) 03:11, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello, Mr. Stradivarius
How do you do?
I kind of need an opinion on this edit of mine. I just reverted a copyright violation, a wholesale copy and paste. Do I need to notify the oversight to strike out the diff in this case?
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (
talk) 22:50, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
oversighters
can.) Worst, it does not highlight any procedure for me, a non-admin, to notify an admin to perform these steps. So, I decided to take the simplest procedure: Calling a dear old admin that is you.AquaCGSB has had speed deltion and i dont think it sould be deleted because it not used for advertisement and not a organisation it become a chartiy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AquaCGSB ( talk • contribs) 14:33, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Greetings, I just wanted to give you a heads up that someone (besides me) has suggested that Template:Portal and Template:Portal bar be merged. The discussion is still ongoing but I see you were the one that created Module:Portal so I wanted to ask if you would be willing to modify that Module to support the functionality in Portal bar as well. Kumioko ( talk) 16:56, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Template:WikiProject United States has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at
the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. I just wanted to give you a heads up since I know you were working on some code to better represent the projects in the template. That functionality will probably not be needed anymore.
Kumioko (
talk) 13:44, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
I don't really know, unless there's some vandalism I'm missing, why this needs to be edit=sysop. Could we try dropping it down to edit=autoconfirmed for a while? ~ Charmlet -talk- 16:43, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Right! I was just preparing a note on that. So now it is OK (esp. removing the internal instruction + option completely). - DePiep ( talk) 10:47, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Nice work your are doing with the modules :-) - I have added a "bug report" at Template_talk:Year_in_other_calendars#Does_not_for_work_for_year.3D551_and_year.3D645_.28script_errors.29, Christian75 ( talk) 10:51, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
I closed the Portal / Portal bar discussion. It looks like the final proposal is either to have both templates use the same lua module, or to have portal bar use the portal bar module. I would say you can do whatever you think is the best option here in terms of easy of coding vs. saving the "job queue". I will leave it to you. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 04:06, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Is it possible to have these three permanently deleted? I can't db-author tag modules. Thanks, — Lfdder ( talk) 07:46, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Please, no. Stop. This is an overkill and smells of the
poltergeist anti-pattern. Repetitive methods like setXXXGrade
unnecessarily blow up code and documentation size and are a violation of the
DRY principle.
Keep it simple, stupid. And most importantly, how is this module supposed to be used now?
Keφr 18:13, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
error("bad argument")
when no data is found. Not generating a whole bunch of code which nobody will be able to work on without access to the generating program.Yes, this is better. Sorry for being so harsh above. But really, I think this approach is bad, and I think I should make it very clear early, before you invest too much time into it.
I am yet to find out what a "trigger" is and why would I need one. Why the grades themselves have to be objects and not just values passed to a banner object. What is the rationale for having banners configured in Lua. How the banners are supposed to use the module, and how to extract configuration data for a given banner in a way that does not involve nightmarish syntax or algorithmically undecidable problems. Stuff like that.
Keφr 07:09, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
The current plan is to configure the banner using a "build" method that takes the config table as a parameter and calls the row objects and assessmentScale objects recursively. After that, the banner object will know all of its configuration, but won't know anything about the template that called it. At this point I plan to output the documentation, the TemplateData, and maybe a separate JSON object if TemplateData still isn't working for you. (I think features have been added to it since we last spoke about it - have you looked to see if it does more of what you want now?) After outputting the docs, the banner object will call the export method with the arguments from the calling template to generate the banner wikitext. This method will recursively call the export methods from the other objects, so that each object is responsible for outputting its own wikitext.
A trigger, by the way, is the value that you have to send to the |class=
or |importance=
parameters to trigger the display of a certain grade. So, for example, the trigger for the FA class is "fa", and a project who wanted to roll their own "Module" class could add triggers of "module" and "mod", so that the class would be triggered either by the code |class=module
or |class=mod
. This seems like necessary functionality to me, although perhaps the name could be clearer. If you have a better suggestion than "trigger", let me know.
The rationale for moving configuration into the module namespace is that the performance will be much better. It might not make much difference for small banners, but for larger banners I predict that there would be a substantial gain in speed by having the configuration in Lua. This is why Scribunto was implemented with access to the parent arguments of a frame (I linked to the design document in my earlier post), and it would be a shame not to use the feature. Have a look at User:Dragons flight/Lua performance for some statistics about the speed of templates vs. Lua. Also, you linked to WP:PERFORMANCE in your earlier post, but actually it says that we should worry about performance in the case of templates that affect millions of pages. In particular, Tim Starling's quote near the bottom says "Particularly in the area of template design, optimising server performance is important, and it's frequently done by users with a great amount of impact." (Tim is also the one who drew up the Lua design document.)
Anyway, that's probably enough from me for now. If you can hold out for a bit longer, I should have some actual code so that you can have a better idea of what I'm talking about regarding the module structure. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:45, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
|class=high
and |importance=FA
? As for the performance bit — fair point. Also, I have not seen any features regarding the configuration data. I should probably see that new code. I would be fine with something similar to
wikt:Module:JSON data I wrote for Wiktionary: a function I could invoke through the API, give it a list of templates whose configuration data I want, and get a JSON object or whatever back.|class=high
etc. is prevented by putting quality scale config in a child object of assessmentScale named qualityScale. Although if you really wanted to I suppose you could define it as a custom grade. I agree that template code is more familiar to editors, and I intend to keep it available as an option, although I think Lua should be the recommended choice. As for the code location, you could use e.g. {{
lua}} to make it obvious where the module is; also, you would still be able to protect modules individually, so that wouldn't change from the current situation. —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪ 11:48, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
mw.loadData
. When we get that figured out, writing code to connect the dots will be relatively easy. We can even do away with object-orientation completely. Grab the banner configuration, grab template parameters, figure out how to make sense of them using the configuration data, warn about unused parameters, and you are done.return { --[[ ...stuff... ]] }
.render_banner
, render_docs
and export_data
. Template code would look like:{{#invoke:WikiProjectBanner|render_banner|{{PAGENAME}}}}<noinclude> {{#invoke:WikiProjectBanner|render_docs|{{PAGENAME}}}} <!-- edit [[Module:WikiProjectBanner/banners/{{subst:PAGENAME}}]] to change banner settings -->
render_docs
would also generate TemplateData object, while export_data
would take a "version" named argument and a variable number of positional arguments and generate a JSON object with data for the banners requested. Basically, to be used with
mw:API:Expandtemplates. (I think TemplateData does not allow custom fields, while in Rater I will need to understand not only what parameters are available and what are their names, but also how to present them, group them, etc. I explained some of that already on
Template talk:WPBannerMeta.)
Keφr 12:30, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
loadData
, needed understanding how to set the template parameters correctly, while /hooks/ will contain functions called at various stages while rendering the banner/documentation/exporting data. The /hooks/ space will be used for purely visual or more experimental features. Also, some keys in the configuration table could be simply ignored, or specially designated for private use, and just passed without changing in export_data
. Or some combination of those.Ok, I followed your suggestion of starting from the banner config files, and I have to say it does make things clearer. I started off with
WikiProject Women scientists, which was simplicity itself, and went on to
WikiProject Linguistics, which was also easy. I ran into significant problems when I tried to make some sense of
WikiProject Biography, however. The problem is that the template parameters are used to generate the configuration data in a way that is very hard to separate. For example, the main text changes depending on whether the |living=
parameter is set; the Arts and Entertainment work group is displayed using the |a&e-work-group=
parameter, but not if either the |filmbio-work-group=
parameter or the |musician-work-group=
parameters are set; etc., etc. Have a look at the code - I've commented out all the bits that I couldn't think how to convert. I'm not really seeing how this kind of thing can be dealt with using the hook/private-key system you mentioned in your last message. Do you have any ideas on how to do it, or possibly an example? Best —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪ 13:21, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
|text-blurb=
, |text-blurb-topic=
, etc. in my old version.) The philosophy is: the configuration data should be generic and reusable; if some piece of information is needed to understand how to use the banner, it must be in the configuration data; rendering, categories and cosmetic features (like the blurb text, i.e. "This article is supported by…") can be handled by hooks, but if there is a nice generic way to do something, do it.local function grab_hooks(banner_name)
local success, hooks = pcall(require, 'Module:WikiProjectBanner/hooks/' .. banner_name)
-- see <http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-pcall>
-- pcall has been restricted here a bit, but this particular usage works
if success then
return hooks
end
return { } -- yes, we have no neutrons
end
if hooks.whatever then hooks.whatever(frame, ...) else --[=[ do it the generic way ]=] end
. Or first we do whatever we think is reasonable, and then ask the hook to override the generic behaviour. Whichever works best. I imagine we would have a table of categories in which the talk page should be put, a table for snippets of generated banner mark-up, a table matching the generated mark-up blocks with task forces/notes/requests, etc. And we pass all these tables to the hook (by reference, because Lua passes all tables by reference), and let it modify them however it pleases. In the end we combine all the data in our tables and generate the final markup.