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MoritzB -- you clearly do not understand how Wikipedia works. Individual personal opinion means nothing here. What counts is when contributors come up with credible scholarly critique, and cite proper reference to that critique. You are using lots of bandwidth but in every comment fail to come up with specific references to back up your personal opinions. The technical term for activity such as you are engaging is blowing wind. Skywriter 18:10, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
(Linda S. Gottfredson, Applying Double Standards to “Divisive” Ideas, p.2. In press, Perspectives on Psychological Science. December 2006)
At least one important survey suggests that a belief in the biological inferiority of some races in regard to intelligence is more common than generally supposed. Smith College professor Stanley Rothman and Harvard researcher Mark Snyderman surveyed a sample of mostly scientific experts in the field of educational psychology in the late 1980s and found that 53 percent believed IQ differences between whites and African Americans were at least partly genetic in origin, while only 17 percent attributed the IQ differences to environmental factors alone (the remainder either believed the data was currently insufficient to decide the issue or refused to answer the question).
You asked "did Swainn mislead readers"?
Yes, she did in that she made an obvious error of fact. Or maybe she did. How can I trust that you quoted her properly when you did not cite a reference for that quote, or even spell her name correctly?
You think it is important to mention Swain's race?
In that vein and following what you started, as Gottfredson, who is white and most likely of Germanic descent, is quoted thusly on this white supremacist website-- http://home.comcast.net/~neoeugenics/LSG.htm "The results of a 1984 survey (Snyderman & Rothman, 1988) of experts on intelligence and mental testing"
So Swain is careless; and Snyderman & Rothman conducted a survey in 1984 and it took them four years to publish their findings. Which leaves me wondering-- Why exactly is Gottfredson placing so much emphasis, in 2003, [1] on a 19-year old push poll (as Ramdrake observes) when it is so easy and quick to do valid polls today?
Is she lazy? Does she not do original research? Or is it that she likes the claims made in the 19-year-old poll that have not been, and perhaps can not be replicated?
Basic to science is the ability to replicate findings. In 23 years, has no one replicated the poll finding by Snyderman & Rothman that the majority of psychologists concur with Jensen's claims that black people are inferior to whites intellectually? If not, why not?
Is it because Jensen's study consisted entirely of two groups of four 14 year olds, tested more than 47 years ago, and from that small sample, he makes generalizations about an entire race of people? [2]
Or is it because Snyderman & Rothman wanted to take "advantage of a push poll -- "an effective way of maligning an opponent ("pushing" voters away) while avoiding responsibility for the distorted or false information used in the push poll. They are risky for the same reason: if credible evidence emerges that the polls were ordered by a campaign, it would do serious damage to that campaign."
Finally you ask if Sternberg's publishing in Intelligence causes that publication to be not a hotbed of white supremacist thinking? The short answer is No. (Sternberg was taking the fight to white supremacist turf.) Read William Tucker's The Funding of Scientific Racism: Wickliffe Draper and the Pioneer Fund and The Science and Politics of Racial Research and then let's chat, not here, because this is not a soap box but on your talk page. Skywriter 00:07, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
(resetting indent)If you re-read Swain's statement properly, you will see that she only reports that the survey exists and what it claims; she doesn't say she endorses any of what it says; likewise I am not pretending the survey doesn't exist; I'm just pointing out it doesn't have a whole lot of credibility. And the argument that the survey represents "expert opinion" fairly thus constructed is an argument by authority which doesn't hold. A proper survey would have selected a random sample of scientists in the relevant field, not cherry-picked its respondents, and would have avoided to roll partly genetic and partly environmental together with the totally genetic option. What if the scientist surveyed thought the source of the gap was very predominantly environmental, but couldn't rule out a genetic contribution? He or she would have been rolled with the voices on "partly or totally genetic". That's the fatal flaw of this survey, and probably why nobody attempted to replicate it since.
If you want a proper, representative opinion, take the statement of the APA (10,000-ish strong membership):
http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/PPPL1.pdf
Cf. http://www.bloodbook.com/world-abo.html
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The IP who reverted to Ramdrake's version is probably ramdrake. Similar edit history and it's from Quebec as well. [3]. If he violated the 3RR rule, report it... KarenAER 21:06, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
User:Taharqa may be User:Muntuwandi. KarenAER 23:06, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
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LMAO!!! If you say so Karen..
And MoritzB, you were pretty much owned here [4], as I have responded to your fallacious arguments in the thread concerning Quantum Physics and "psychoenergetics". 1. Quatum physics wasn't even brought up. 2. He cited his claims. and 3. That was a fallacy of composition even if you did have a point, arguing that what is true of a part is true of the whole.
Just a summary of why you have no idea what you're talking and no answers to what was presented. I have no idea why I waste my time though and need to really consider why I waste my time debating the obvious with you and your sock puppets. Taharqa 02:17, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
^They're not going to block him since the page is protected. You should really stop instigating in trying to help Moritz here push his Eurocentric agenda all over wikipedia, with his sock puppets.. Taharqa 17:16, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
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You are NOT helping. - Jeeny Talk 06:15, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry. I erroneously based my assumptions on edit history with you, while ignoring the facts. I was wrong. Please accept my apology. I will be more vigilant in reading the sources you provide, rather than blindly assuming you are pushing an agenda. Again, I apologize. Peace. - Jeeny Talk 08:39, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi, just wanted to point out that there is no point in having this edit war with Muntuwandi on this issue. You are not actually contradicting each other. All populations outside of Africa are more closely related to each other than they are to Africans under ROA, the African populations non African people are most closely related to are probably East African populations. On the other hand it is perfectly acceptable to say that of the non-African groups, Europeans may well be the closest to Africans. These are no incompatible concepts. Alun 07:50, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
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There is no evidence produced of edit warring. Lists of diffs or links to relevant warnings have not been provided. There is no report in [5]. I have been very careful not to violate the 3RR. If I broke it it was a mistake made in good faith I am ready to correct (reverting my last edit). Also, the latest edits I made to the article white people KillerChihuahua mentioned reflected consensus on talk page. No warning was given of a violation of WP:3RR there. Thus, I assume that this block was a mistake made by KillerChihuahua.
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Get over it, you were edit waring on the michael jackson page, I bare witness to it, just serve your punishment and move on, hopefully you will learn, talking of consensus (something you fail to follow) the consensus is you have done wrong. Oh by the way its michael Jacksons birthday today, im sure your delighted to learn MoritzB, It dont matter if your blak or white!!! He He. Seriously though bad boy, behave your self. Yours with enlightenment Realist2 13:28, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
MoritzB 13:37, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
You come out with things like that all the time, cant you face that facts that you might actually be in the wrong? Realist2 14:01, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Oh clever insult, actually english is not my first language im an interperter(c my user page). My first language is spanish, you are very ignorant Moritzb B you user latin words here and there but it doesnt make you clever, sorry my english isn`t up to your standard at least I got off my ass and bothered to learn something else, I wont laugh at your ability to speak spanish, Im not doing to sink that low. Please improve your sense of humour, thanks. Realist2 10:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Since when have the Sami people been non-european? You removed the Laplander from the gallery of European people to make the rows of equal length: was this a convenient piece of ethnic cleansing on your part? -- Mathsci 10:45, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
This recent binge of yours, to say that pedophiles are linked to homosexuals and vise versa. That's like saying white men are kidnappers and rapists. Since most kidnappers and rapists are indeed white men. - Jeeny Talk 21:44, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Please don't canvass to get support for your argument [9] [10] [11]. There are already too many people losing their time arguing on these talk pages. An extra three won't help in finding a solution. Pascal.Tesson 03:35, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
I note that you are revert-warring on the above articles and are now coming perilously close to violating the three-revert rule. Please discuss your differences on the relevant talk pages as your next revert is probably going to result in your editing being blocked for a time - Alison ☺ 06:00, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
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Your comments on Talk:White people about critical theory being marxist or neo-marxist is totally irrelevant to the subject of the article. These are reliable sources, your attempts to debate the nature of critical theory is treating the talk page both as a forum and as a soapbox. This is a level 2 warning. It takes into account that this behaviour has been protracted. As I said on the talk page please review wikipedia's five pillars. Also please study WP:TALK. Talk pages have one function and one function only: improving articles. Not arguing against properly sourced, academic material. Core to the policy is being positive; staying objective, dealing with facts and making proposals. Obstructing this process is tendentious and disruptive - this is a blockable offence. You have seen editors who were trolling at Talk:White people blocked indefinitely please review the reasons for their blocks.-- Cailil talk 21:19, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Please stop. If you continue to use talk pages for inappropriate discussion, as described here, you may be blocked.
MoritzB you are continuing to soapbox please stop. This talk page is governed by same rules as article talk pages - see WP:TALK. Characterizing the academic studies cited on Talk:white people as extreme left-wing sources is both factually inaccurate and soapboxing. Please take note that that wikipedia is not a battleground-- Cailil talk
No you were talking "about the list Slrubenstein posted" (see Talk:White_people#No_Neo-Marxist_POV_is_needed), these are your words. I followed that conversation carefully and you only mentioned your issue with the above writer on August 31st. Two days after your opening remarks about neo-marxism. Please take note of wikipedia's policies MoritzB. If you continue to soapbox here or on any other talk page you will receive a level 4, final warning. If you stop soapboxing and acquaint yourself with policy on WP you could become a valuable contributor to the encyclopedia. But as stated twice already, soapboxing and other disruptive use of wikipedia's talk-pages is considered disruptive and is a blockable offense-- Cailil talk 01:04, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
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Thanks for uploading Image:Negroidskull.jpg. I noticed the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created that provides substantially the same information. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:
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If you think that is a good policy then I recommend you follow it yourself. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 19:55, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Hello. I have reverted two of your latest additions. I find it ironic that a couple of sections above you were vehemently arguing against citing Noel Ignatiev as a reliable source given that he's a marxist historian, yet you don't find it problematic to cite Robert Gayre (well remembered for saying that blacks are feckless) to explain that Africans had nothing to do with the building of Great Zimbabwe. This sort of point-of-view pushing has led you to start edit wars on White people, Pedophilia, Michael Jackson, and so on. This has got to stop. Pascal.Tesson 04:23, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
This is your last warning.
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You have fair warning that if you continue to use wikipedia as a
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As I have stated
above you are characterizing a whole academic field as 'neo-marxist' or 'marxist' or 'left wing' not just the cherry picked authors such as Noel Ignatiev. Characterizing the whole discipline of critical theory as a neo-marxism is factually inaccurate.
You have a long history of using wikipedia like a forum and have not addressed this behaviour, please read over
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Had it occurred to you that your soul-mate James D. Watson might be racially prejudiced? That's what the unscientific comments cherry-picked by you for Race and intelligence would suggest to the normal reader. Watson wasn't particularly professional with Rosalind Franklin either. Was her IQ substandard perhaps? -- Mathsci 08:25, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
I am appalled that until today the retracted statement was allowed to stand and was only removed after I made a comment on the talk page. You were apparently quite happy to have a retracted statement left on this encyclopedia, even when you knew it to be incorrect. I think your credentials as WP editor are extremely suspect. If there is a repetition of this dishonest racist agenda in editing, based on tittle-tattle, I will report you on WP:AN/I. Don't you feel a little ashamed of yourself? If you happen to be a member of a group on the extreme right, why not use one of their forums instead for posting such comments; you would encounter less difficulties and perhaps feel more appreciated. -- Mathsci 05:46, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Given the discussion here at WP:AN/I and long-term abuse of editing privileges on your part, I've extended your block to indefinite. You may appeal the block by the usual means: you can post an {{ unblock}} request, or email the Arbitration Committee as described in Wikipedia:Appealing a block. MastCell Talk 16:44, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
R&I has been protected for a breather while we try to form some consensus as to the direction. In the interim we have set up a “sandbox” at: User:Moonriddengirl/Race and intelligence/backgound. Moonriddengirl is a neutral admin who has set up the space where we can work on the text section by section; this allows us to have a talk page for the micro project. So far JJJamal, Futurebird and I have made suggested changes with additions in bold and deletions in strikeout. This section and its talk page is an experiment in trying to come together as a group on a focused area. If it works we’d like to approach Guy, the admin who has protected the page, to insert our work-product into the protected article and then take on another section. I would really like to get your feedback on this so that we can demonstrate a consensus. Thanks. -- Kevin Murray 19:18, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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MoritzB -- you clearly do not understand how Wikipedia works. Individual personal opinion means nothing here. What counts is when contributors come up with credible scholarly critique, and cite proper reference to that critique. You are using lots of bandwidth but in every comment fail to come up with specific references to back up your personal opinions. The technical term for activity such as you are engaging is blowing wind. Skywriter 18:10, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
(Linda S. Gottfredson, Applying Double Standards to “Divisive” Ideas, p.2. In press, Perspectives on Psychological Science. December 2006)
At least one important survey suggests that a belief in the biological inferiority of some races in regard to intelligence is more common than generally supposed. Smith College professor Stanley Rothman and Harvard researcher Mark Snyderman surveyed a sample of mostly scientific experts in the field of educational psychology in the late 1980s and found that 53 percent believed IQ differences between whites and African Americans were at least partly genetic in origin, while only 17 percent attributed the IQ differences to environmental factors alone (the remainder either believed the data was currently insufficient to decide the issue or refused to answer the question).
You asked "did Swainn mislead readers"?
Yes, she did in that she made an obvious error of fact. Or maybe she did. How can I trust that you quoted her properly when you did not cite a reference for that quote, or even spell her name correctly?
You think it is important to mention Swain's race?
In that vein and following what you started, as Gottfredson, who is white and most likely of Germanic descent, is quoted thusly on this white supremacist website-- http://home.comcast.net/~neoeugenics/LSG.htm "The results of a 1984 survey (Snyderman & Rothman, 1988) of experts on intelligence and mental testing"
So Swain is careless; and Snyderman & Rothman conducted a survey in 1984 and it took them four years to publish their findings. Which leaves me wondering-- Why exactly is Gottfredson placing so much emphasis, in 2003, [1] on a 19-year old push poll (as Ramdrake observes) when it is so easy and quick to do valid polls today?
Is she lazy? Does she not do original research? Or is it that she likes the claims made in the 19-year-old poll that have not been, and perhaps can not be replicated?
Basic to science is the ability to replicate findings. In 23 years, has no one replicated the poll finding by Snyderman & Rothman that the majority of psychologists concur with Jensen's claims that black people are inferior to whites intellectually? If not, why not?
Is it because Jensen's study consisted entirely of two groups of four 14 year olds, tested more than 47 years ago, and from that small sample, he makes generalizations about an entire race of people? [2]
Or is it because Snyderman & Rothman wanted to take "advantage of a push poll -- "an effective way of maligning an opponent ("pushing" voters away) while avoiding responsibility for the distorted or false information used in the push poll. They are risky for the same reason: if credible evidence emerges that the polls were ordered by a campaign, it would do serious damage to that campaign."
Finally you ask if Sternberg's publishing in Intelligence causes that publication to be not a hotbed of white supremacist thinking? The short answer is No. (Sternberg was taking the fight to white supremacist turf.) Read William Tucker's The Funding of Scientific Racism: Wickliffe Draper and the Pioneer Fund and The Science and Politics of Racial Research and then let's chat, not here, because this is not a soap box but on your talk page. Skywriter 00:07, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
(resetting indent)If you re-read Swain's statement properly, you will see that she only reports that the survey exists and what it claims; she doesn't say she endorses any of what it says; likewise I am not pretending the survey doesn't exist; I'm just pointing out it doesn't have a whole lot of credibility. And the argument that the survey represents "expert opinion" fairly thus constructed is an argument by authority which doesn't hold. A proper survey would have selected a random sample of scientists in the relevant field, not cherry-picked its respondents, and would have avoided to roll partly genetic and partly environmental together with the totally genetic option. What if the scientist surveyed thought the source of the gap was very predominantly environmental, but couldn't rule out a genetic contribution? He or she would have been rolled with the voices on "partly or totally genetic". That's the fatal flaw of this survey, and probably why nobody attempted to replicate it since.
If you want a proper, representative opinion, take the statement of the APA (10,000-ish strong membership):
http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/PPPL1.pdf
Cf. http://www.bloodbook.com/world-abo.html
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The IP who reverted to Ramdrake's version is probably ramdrake. Similar edit history and it's from Quebec as well. [3]. If he violated the 3RR rule, report it... KarenAER 21:06, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
User:Taharqa may be User:Muntuwandi. KarenAER 23:06, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
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LMAO!!! If you say so Karen..
And MoritzB, you were pretty much owned here [4], as I have responded to your fallacious arguments in the thread concerning Quantum Physics and "psychoenergetics". 1. Quatum physics wasn't even brought up. 2. He cited his claims. and 3. That was a fallacy of composition even if you did have a point, arguing that what is true of a part is true of the whole.
Just a summary of why you have no idea what you're talking and no answers to what was presented. I have no idea why I waste my time though and need to really consider why I waste my time debating the obvious with you and your sock puppets. Taharqa 02:17, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
^They're not going to block him since the page is protected. You should really stop instigating in trying to help Moritz here push his Eurocentric agenda all over wikipedia, with his sock puppets.. Taharqa 17:16, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
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You are NOT helping. - Jeeny Talk 06:15, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry. I erroneously based my assumptions on edit history with you, while ignoring the facts. I was wrong. Please accept my apology. I will be more vigilant in reading the sources you provide, rather than blindly assuming you are pushing an agenda. Again, I apologize. Peace. - Jeeny Talk 08:39, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi, just wanted to point out that there is no point in having this edit war with Muntuwandi on this issue. You are not actually contradicting each other. All populations outside of Africa are more closely related to each other than they are to Africans under ROA, the African populations non African people are most closely related to are probably East African populations. On the other hand it is perfectly acceptable to say that of the non-African groups, Europeans may well be the closest to Africans. These are no incompatible concepts. Alun 07:50, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
KillerChihuahua ?!? 13:34, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
MoritzB ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
There is no evidence produced of edit warring. Lists of diffs or links to relevant warnings have not been provided. There is no report in [5]. I have been very careful not to violate the 3RR. If I broke it it was a mistake made in good faith I am ready to correct (reverting my last edit). Also, the latest edits I made to the article white people KillerChihuahua mentioned reflected consensus on talk page. No warning was given of a violation of WP:3RR there. Thus, I assume that this block was a mistake made by KillerChihuahua.
Decline reason:
the block and its length appear justified in the circumstances. Edit warring is disruptive and 3RR is not a license to 3 revisions daily. — Carlossuarez46 19:52, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
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MoritzB 14:00, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Get over it, you were edit waring on the michael jackson page, I bare witness to it, just serve your punishment and move on, hopefully you will learn, talking of consensus (something you fail to follow) the consensus is you have done wrong. Oh by the way its michael Jacksons birthday today, im sure your delighted to learn MoritzB, It dont matter if your blak or white!!! He He. Seriously though bad boy, behave your self. Yours with enlightenment Realist2 13:28, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
MoritzB 13:37, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
You come out with things like that all the time, cant you face that facts that you might actually be in the wrong? Realist2 14:01, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Oh clever insult, actually english is not my first language im an interperter(c my user page). My first language is spanish, you are very ignorant Moritzb B you user latin words here and there but it doesnt make you clever, sorry my english isn`t up to your standard at least I got off my ass and bothered to learn something else, I wont laugh at your ability to speak spanish, Im not doing to sink that low. Please improve your sense of humour, thanks. Realist2 10:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Since when have the Sami people been non-european? You removed the Laplander from the gallery of European people to make the rows of equal length: was this a convenient piece of ethnic cleansing on your part? -- Mathsci 10:45, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
This recent binge of yours, to say that pedophiles are linked to homosexuals and vise versa. That's like saying white men are kidnappers and rapists. Since most kidnappers and rapists are indeed white men. - Jeeny Talk 21:44, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Please don't canvass to get support for your argument [9] [10] [11]. There are already too many people losing their time arguing on these talk pages. An extra three won't help in finding a solution. Pascal.Tesson 03:35, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
I note that you are revert-warring on the above articles and are now coming perilously close to violating the three-revert rule. Please discuss your differences on the relevant talk pages as your next revert is probably going to result in your editing being blocked for a time - Alison ☺ 06:00, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
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Your comments on Talk:White people about critical theory being marxist or neo-marxist is totally irrelevant to the subject of the article. These are reliable sources, your attempts to debate the nature of critical theory is treating the talk page both as a forum and as a soapbox. This is a level 2 warning. It takes into account that this behaviour has been protracted. As I said on the talk page please review wikipedia's five pillars. Also please study WP:TALK. Talk pages have one function and one function only: improving articles. Not arguing against properly sourced, academic material. Core to the policy is being positive; staying objective, dealing with facts and making proposals. Obstructing this process is tendentious and disruptive - this is a blockable offence. You have seen editors who were trolling at Talk:White people blocked indefinitely please review the reasons for their blocks.-- Cailil talk 21:19, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Please stop. If you continue to use talk pages for inappropriate discussion, as described here, you may be blocked.
MoritzB you are continuing to soapbox please stop. This talk page is governed by same rules as article talk pages - see WP:TALK. Characterizing the academic studies cited on Talk:white people as extreme left-wing sources is both factually inaccurate and soapboxing. Please take note that that wikipedia is not a battleground-- Cailil talk
No you were talking "about the list Slrubenstein posted" (see Talk:White_people#No_Neo-Marxist_POV_is_needed), these are your words. I followed that conversation carefully and you only mentioned your issue with the above writer on August 31st. Two days after your opening remarks about neo-marxism. Please take note of wikipedia's policies MoritzB. If you continue to soapbox here or on any other talk page you will receive a level 4, final warning. If you stop soapboxing and acquaint yourself with policy on WP you could become a valuable contributor to the encyclopedia. But as stated twice already, soapboxing and other disruptive use of wikipedia's talk-pages is considered disruptive and is a blockable offense-- Cailil talk 01:04, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
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Thanks for uploading Image:Negroidskull.jpg. I noticed the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created that provides substantially the same information. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:
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If you think that is a good policy then I recommend you follow it yourself. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 19:55, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Hello. I have reverted two of your latest additions. I find it ironic that a couple of sections above you were vehemently arguing against citing Noel Ignatiev as a reliable source given that he's a marxist historian, yet you don't find it problematic to cite Robert Gayre (well remembered for saying that blacks are feckless) to explain that Africans had nothing to do with the building of Great Zimbabwe. This sort of point-of-view pushing has led you to start edit wars on White people, Pedophilia, Michael Jackson, and so on. This has got to stop. Pascal.Tesson 04:23, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
This is your last warning.
If you continue to use talk pages for
inappropriate discussions you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.
You have fair warning that if you continue to use wikipedia as a
soapbox you will be blocked. Your comments on WP:ANI
[19] have continued to disrupt wikipedia by using talk pages like a forum. This is your final warning. Please take heed of it. This is your chance to reassess your behaviour in light of
wikipedia's five pillars and become a better wikipedian.
As I have stated
above you are characterizing a whole academic field as 'neo-marxist' or 'marxist' or 'left wing' not just the cherry picked authors such as Noel Ignatiev. Characterizing the whole discipline of critical theory as a neo-marxism is factually inaccurate.
You have a long history of using wikipedia like a forum and have not addressed this behaviour, please read over
WP:TALK,
WP:SOAP and
WP:NOT#FORUM--
Cailil
talk
15:44, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Had it occurred to you that your soul-mate James D. Watson might be racially prejudiced? That's what the unscientific comments cherry-picked by you for Race and intelligence would suggest to the normal reader. Watson wasn't particularly professional with Rosalind Franklin either. Was her IQ substandard perhaps? -- Mathsci 08:25, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
I am appalled that until today the retracted statement was allowed to stand and was only removed after I made a comment on the talk page. You were apparently quite happy to have a retracted statement left on this encyclopedia, even when you knew it to be incorrect. I think your credentials as WP editor are extremely suspect. If there is a repetition of this dishonest racist agenda in editing, based on tittle-tattle, I will report you on WP:AN/I. Don't you feel a little ashamed of yourself? If you happen to be a member of a group on the extreme right, why not use one of their forums instead for posting such comments; you would encounter less difficulties and perhaps feel more appreciated. -- Mathsci 05:46, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Given the discussion here at WP:AN/I and long-term abuse of editing privileges on your part, I've extended your block to indefinite. You may appeal the block by the usual means: you can post an {{ unblock}} request, or email the Arbitration Committee as described in Wikipedia:Appealing a block. MastCell Talk 16:44, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
R&I has been protected for a breather while we try to form some consensus as to the direction. In the interim we have set up a “sandbox” at: User:Moonriddengirl/Race and intelligence/backgound. Moonriddengirl is a neutral admin who has set up the space where we can work on the text section by section; this allows us to have a talk page for the micro project. So far JJJamal, Futurebird and I have made suggested changes with additions in bold and deletions in strikeout. This section and its talk page is an experiment in trying to come together as a group on a focused area. If it works we’d like to approach Guy, the admin who has protected the page, to insert our work-product into the protected article and then take on another section. I would really like to get your feedback on this so that we can demonstrate a consensus. Thanks. -- Kevin Murray 19:18, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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Hi, MoritzB I need your help. I am working on a research project at Boston College, studying creation of medical information on Wikipedia. You are being contacted because you have been identified as an important contributor to one or more articles.
Would you will be willing to answer a few questions about your experience? We've done considerable background research, but we would also like to gather the insight of the actual editors. Details about the project can be found at the user page of the project leader, geraldckane. Survey questions can be found at geraldckane/medsurvey. Your privacy and confidentiality will be strictly protected!
The questions should only take a few minutes. I hope you will be willing to complete the survey, as we do value your insight. Please do not hesitate to contact me or Professor Kane if you have any questions. Thank You, BCproject ( talk) 18:24, 3 August 2008 (UTC)