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Hi,
I'm contacting you about the Wikipedia page for DJ Sassy, which has undergone a number of edits over the last few months and has also been the subject of a discussion about possible deletion of the page.
My name is James McLeod and am Sassy's website administrator and DJ booking manager and have carried out a number of the recent edits at her request, including the addition of her current website biography information. If you wish to confirm my identity, please feel free to email me at administrator@djsassy.com or bookings@djsassy.com
I'm relatively new to Wikipedia, but having read the comments about the edits and possible deletion of the DJ Sassy page, I am starting to understand the kind of editorial policies that are applied, and I appreciate that the style of some of the material that we submitted earlier this year may have been overly-subjective. We are quite prepared to limit the information that we put on the page to that which is more objective and more readily verifiable, and over the last five years or so I have accumulated an archive of press articles, internet pages, and other information that could be used on Sassy's page.
However, Sassy and I do have concerns about some of the information which was added by you to the page, and which I have therefore tried to remove. The first is the inclusion of Sassy's full name and the town in which she lives at the start of the article. I appreciate that this information can be found on the internet if you look for it, but we have strong reservations about making this so highly visible : a Google search for DJ Sassy lists the Wikipedia page right near the top, with her name and town clearly displayed in the search results. Sassy is in reality quite a private person, which is why there are relatively few press articles about her, and she has in the past been the victim of stalkers : this has been very distressing for her and is something that we are keen to avoid in the future. If you could agree to not include Sassy's full name in the Wikipedia page that would be a big help, and if we could also just say that she is from London that would be quite acceptable : Bromley is a London Borough after all, and she spent much of her childhood in South London.
We also have an issue with the Sol Campbell story. Although it is widely known that Sassy and Sol dated, the story presented in the newspaper was not accurate and so we do not believe that it should be included on the page. Indeed, the paper did subsequently print an apology over some of the points made.
I would be grateful for your feedback on the above. Our biggest concern is the identity issue, which Sassy is very concerned about, to the extent that she would consider asking for the DJ Sassy page to be deleted from Wikipedia. I very much hope that this will not be necessary and that we can work out a mutually acceptable way forward.
I look forward to hearing from you soon, and would appreciate it if you could not modify the page again until we have been able to discuss these issues further. Thanks.
AquilaUK ( talk) 16:08, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments and feedback : all very useful. I must confess that I am still quite inexperienced with Wikipedia, and am certainly on a steep learning curve now, but it's all interesting stuff.
Thanks for changing Bromley, Kent to London. That is still accurate, but less specific, and also probably much more useful to an international audience.
I appreciate your comments with regard to Sassy's full name, and the uses of Saskia and Porter in various other sources. I will talk to Sassy about this, but I am almost certain that her preference would be to not include her real name (in any of its forms) in the Wikipedia page. In practice, everyone in her industry always refers to her as DJ Sassy (or DJ Sassy P or DJ Sassy Pandez), so I don't believe that including her real name adds any value. If you could possibly seek additional feedback on this from other editors I think that would be useful, and then we can decide on the best way forward from there.
As for the deletion of the references, I think that this is probably where my inexperience with Wikipedia shows itself. I understand the basic concept, but it gets complicated when one reference gets used multiple times on the page. My intention was to remove the reference for the Sol Campbell article, so if you could do that for me I would be grateful. I did also want to remove the reference for the Poor Little Rich Girls review, as I do have some alternative references for this which are much better, although I'll need to make sure that they are still valid first.
I do have various other references which can be used to support this page. Some are links to websites, others are scans or PDFs of articles and flyers from Sassy's DJ events, and some are video clips of her at work. I can make a selection of these available via links to her website if that would be helpful.
Assuming that we can resolve the remaining issues with Sassy's Wikipedia page, I would like to understand the best way to carry out future updates, given the perceived "conflict of interest" status with this page? I have read through the Conflict of Interest guidance page, and am not entirely clear on exactly how it would work for me. But we can discuss that more later.
For now, we need to sort out the issue of Sassy's real name being on the page. I'll speak to Sassy and if you can get some additional feedback from other editors then we'll see how we can move forward from there.
Thanks for your help. AquilaUK ( talk) 19:25, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
I understand, on re-reading, on the page you commented on was slightly notable.
However, you had no reason for two of the other Zodiac pages - they had no notablity at all. Rob Riv ( talk) 16:34, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
←That sounds like a good idea. :) They aren't open and shut cases for the purpose of CSD, I'm afraid, although they may be for AFD. For instance, you say, "there is no point that accepts "cult classic" as sufficient notability." A7 says it "is a lower standard than notability; to avoid speedy deletion an article does not have to prove that its subject is notable, just give a reasonable indication of why it might be notable." If an album is a cult classic, then there may be widespread coverage in published sources. It might be notable. It might have sold enough to go gold. It might be notable. It doesn't have to prove or verify it in order to survive CSD. It just has to suggest that perhaps it could. CSD, again, is deliberately narrow, only intended to address the most obvious and blatant cases. :) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:08, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm still leaning towards a G7 here, so I've undone the redirect. It was a short-lived Christmas album on a non-notable label, and I doubt anyone would search for it specifically. Also, I doubt anyone would create a new page for it, seeing as nobody's even touched Ty Herndon in ages. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ( Broken clamshells• Otter chirps) 18:32, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks! :D Sorry about the cow/bull thing. :) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for the cookie! Kitty53 ( talk) 01:41, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi, you opposed my last RFA at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Gary King a few weeks ago. I have decided to open an Editor Review at Wikipedia:Editor review/Gary King so I could receive a new assessment for my recent activity on Wikipedia. I would greatly appreciate it if you could take the time to look over my recent contributions and point out areas where I could improve. Thanks in advance! Gary King ( talk) 04:43, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, I meant to write you earlier, but thank you for your compliment on my talk page! I hope that what I wrote helped him a bit! BWH76 ( talk) 16:04, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello, MoonRiddenGirl.
I wanted to personally thank you for taking part in the project-wide discussions regarding my candidacy for bureaucratship. After bureaucratic discussion, the bureaucrats decided that there was sufficient significant and varied opposition to my candidacy, and thus no consensus to promote. Although personally disappointed, I both understand and respect their decision, especially in light of historical conservatism the project has had when selecting its bureaucrats. I especially wanted to thank you for the thought and care you took in both making your decision as well as craftingyour support rationale; I am very appreciative of both. Although our joint efforts with Coppertwig may not result in a successful outcome this time around, I look forward to collaborating with you on potential RfA candidates in the future. If you have any further suggestions or comments as to how you think I could help the project, please let me know. Once again, thank you for your support. -- Avi ( talk) 18:34, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
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I know that Wind Dukes of Aaqa was previously deleted, and I created a redirect at the time. However, it looked like someone had created a new version of the article later. I don't know if that makes a difference - I know that just pasting the same content from an AFD-deleted article is worthy of a speedy delete, but does that apply if the article is completely rewritten? BOZ ( talk) 13:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
The G7 tag for Victor I. Petrik was placed by Huggle in what I figure was supposed to be a simple revert due to the removal of the hangon tag so two for two there. Next up, The joy formidable. This was an issue to me and still is as it's just a bunch of links and again was a result of the tool.
I'm saying it's the tool because I'm not that unaware or working too fast to notice when someone didn't blank the article as a request for deletion but marks it as such anyway. Feh, I'm sticking to more manual means of CSD in the future. treelo talk 14:03, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
The one reference/link goes to a page where you have to pay in order to get access. I fail to see how it doesn't meet the speedy deletion criteria as an advertisement. I also specifically said to the author on their talk page how to work on improving the article so that it wasn't an advertisement. If I'm in the wrong than I'm more than happy to help improve the articles somehow but, not on my own. Thanks for your time. Jasynnash2 ( talk) 14:32, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi, why did you block user WorkingInPartnershipProgramme? Which part of policy are they breaking? Did you ask them to change their username before you blocked them? Did you see that other editors were working with that user, talking about COI and helping the user to add content to the encyclopedia? Dan Beale-Cocks 14:39, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your assistance and effort to be an impartial sifter of the facts. While the article is clearly still a stub, I feel you were effective in removing the blatant ideological bias and misinformation when I was ethically bound not to do any edits. I posted a blog entry http://ianthal.blogspot.com/2008/05/update-to-when-wikipedia-renders-one-un.html so that my readers can get a better idea of how to deal with these sorts of disputes in a constructive and civil manner. IanThal ( talk) 15:54, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello Moodriddengirl
Thanks for the guidance. I have now rewritten the article which I hope conforms to your style. I attach a couple of articles taken from the web which I hope will indicate that Ron meets your criteria for an academic. It was designed as a link from the 168th Pioneer Regiment as it was he who formed two of the Regiments Squadrons. He was also responsible for the introduction of Distance Learning into the Royal Logistic Corps. If this is acceptable I will then insert the appropriate links. Though I would appreciate any further comments.
Regards
831squad
Talk may lead to student research: http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P2-16302220.html
Sailing on board Fred. http://www.fredolsencruises-civilisations.co.uk/lecturers.php?page_id=25
Ron Gatepain – Writer and Lecturer
Ron Gatepain TD, BSc, MPhil, MEd, MBEng, FCIOB, FASI, MRICS, MCMI, MIfL, PGCE, LCG (b. 1947) is a Chartered Surveyor, Corporate Building Surveyor, Chartered Builder, Corporate Building Engineer and Architectural Historian.
Lecturing
Currently Ron is a visiting Lecturer at the Bishop Grosseteste University College, Lincoln, England on their Heritage Degree courses. Having in the past been a visiting lecturer for the Nottingham Trent University and Loughborough University and numerous colleges. He is a Director of Gates MacBain Associates a Construction Education and Training Company and carries out engagements as a guest speaker on cruise ships for P&O, Fred Olsen and Saga speaking on History and Architecture.
Business Experience
He was for a number of years Managing Director of a Property Development Company and was a director of a number of companies with interest in retail, manufacturing, services and the entertainment industry.
Military Service
He served with the Royal Marines between 1965 – 1972 with 45 Commando in Aden, 41 Commando in the UK and Norway and on the Assault ship HMS Intrepid. He has also served with the Reserve forces in the Royal Auxiliary Air Force Regiment and the Territorial Army with the Royal Pioneer Corps and Royal Logistic Corps retiring in 2000 as the Commanding Officer of 168 Pioneer Regiment with the rank of Lieutenant Colonel. He is now a member of the Reserve Forces and Cadets Association Committee.
External Commitments
He is involved on the committees or with the delivery of training for the Chartered Institute of Building, Institute of Highway Incorporated Engineers and the Association of Building Engineers.
Books
• Successful Property Development, RIA Publishing, 1995, IBSN 0 9525897 0 2
• Management for the Professions, RIA Publishing, 1996,
ISBN
0 9525897 1 0
External links
• www.gatepain.co.uk
• www.gatesmacbain.co.uk
831squad (
talk) 19:34, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
I read where you can copy deleted pages and move them to my userpage. I am asking if you could do this for the following three articles:
East Carolina Pirates football, 1970-1979 East Carolina Pirates football, 1980-1989 East Carolina Pirates football, 2000-2009
Thanks, PG Pirate 13:50, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Moonriddengirl, I will see what I can come up with and get back to you. 831squad 831squad ( talk) 15:39, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi -
Thanks for the tip. I have been doing speedy deletes for ages and you are the first person to give me this tip of putting it on the users page. I will do this in future. Also thanks for the notenglish pointer as I looked for something like this and couldn't find it (did he look long enough you say....!!) BustOut ( talk)
Hey I was hoping you could help sort out the situation between myself ( Grant.Alpaugh ( talk · contribs)), Kingjeff ( talk · contribs), and Otav347 ( talk · contribs) about the 2008 Major League Soccer season article, and all of the templates on that article, namely Template:2008 MLS standings - Eastern, Template:2008 MLS standings - Western, Template:2008 MLS standings - Overall, and Template:2008 MLS Scores, as well as 2008 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup qualification. The disagreement stems from the issue regarding the format of games as Home-Away or Away-Home and standings as W-D-L or W-L-T. I agree the disagreement is small, but it has caused quite the controversy. The discussion is mostly at Talk:2008 Major League Soccer season and Talk:2008 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup qualification, though the Open Cup conversation has been almost entirely copied to the MLS article's talk page. The discussion has also spilled over into our talk pages as well. While it would be nice if you could weigh in on the issue of the debate, I would mostly like your opinion about the tone of the discussion, mostly between myself and Kingjeff, as I believe many of his comments to constitute violations of WP:GOODFAITH and/or WP:NPA. At the beginning of the discussion Otav347 began to take the discussion down a personal tone, I called him on it, and he promptly apologized and has endeavored to keep things civil as much as possible from there on. Kingjeff, on the other hand, has made this debate much more personal, resulting, I believe from an edit to UEFA Champions League 2007-08 on April 15th or 16th in which he shrunk certain names of teams in the competition to a smaller font, which I reverted as vandalism, but he later explained was because on some resolutions the names were appearing in two lines, causing the bracket to deform. He made a comment on the talk page of another user I had been collaborating with at the time ( PeeJay2K3 ( talk · contribs)), I referred to it in my conversation with PeeJay, and Kingjeff accused me of following him around the WP. It was at this point that he collaborated with US - Jimmy Slade ( talk · contribs) during his fit of vandalism to my userpages. I didn't think it was as big a deal then, but now almost a month later, he's begun attacking me again, making me out to be a coward on my talk page, accusing me of trying to own articles when I explicitly did the opposite, and generally defaming my character. I've repeatedly asked him to change the tone of his remarks and refrain from making not-so-thinly-veiled personal attacks. Most frivilously, he's brought allegations of sockpuppetry against me and everyone that voted along with me because my roommate reverted the templates in question at my request, similar to his request that Otav continue the edit war because he would be unable to do so for 22 more hours. I've been upfront about the fact that my roommate uses the same IP as I do as we're in an apartment and hooked up to the same connection. He didn't create an account, but he didn't need to to make the edit. He acted in good faith, as did I. I realize I've thrown a mountain of stuff at you, so if it takes you a day or two to respond, that's fine, but I would appreciate a response, especially as you dealt so well with the US - Jimmy Slade issue before. Thanks again, and have a great day. -- Grant . Alpaugh 06:45, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
He says one thing then does a 180 when it suits him. I'm not the only one who has seen this. As far as the sock puppet case goes, the main issue is with the IP Address. The IP Address has only 4 edits in which all 4 were reverts which just happens to agree with Grant. As far as the other users are concerned, it's more of suspicion of Grant. I have had 2 users that have said that the IP Address reporting is ligitimate. Kingjeff ( talk) 21:18, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
This issue is regarding
Template:2008 MLS standings - Eastern,
Template:2008 MLS standings - Western and
Template:2008 MLS standings - Overall. I feel that it should be under the format of W-L-T should stand until the issue is resolved because
Wikipedia:How to edit a page says "...Before engaging in a major edit, a user should consider discussing proposed changes on the article discussion/talk page..." and "A major edit should be reviewed to confirm that it is consensual to all concerned editors. Therefore, any change that affects the meaning of an article is major (not minor), even if the edit is a single word." We are onl discussing it now, after the fact. Grant feels that W-D-L should stand until the issue is solved.
Kingjeff (
talk) 01:45, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
It's still a major edit Grant. The table is a big part of seasonal sports article. Kingjeff ( talk) 02:03, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
But I think we need a decision one way or the other. Kingjeff ( talk) 03:01, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Can you take a look into this, this, this, and this for me? I'm pretty sure this is a direct attempt to manipulate polling and falsify consensus, which I never had my roommate do. All he did was keep the site from being changed before consensus was reached. This qualifies as sockpuppetry, and the IP account should be banned, and Kingjeff should be warned, no? It also strikes me as quite silly since the issue has already been resolved in his favor. -- Grant . Alpaugh 20:25, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello Moonriddengirl, I have had another go at the article on Ron Gatepain and would appreciate your comments as to weather it is now okay to submit.
Ron Gatepain – Writer and Lecturer
Ron Gatepain is a renowned architectural historian [1] [2] and construction educationalist. A Chartered Surveyor, Corporate Building Surveyor, Chartered Builder and Corporate Building Engineer, he is a visiting lecturer at the Bishop Grosseteste University College, Lincoln, England in Heritage Studies and has delivered courses as a visiting lecturer at the Nottingham Trent University and Loughborough University [3] [4] and numerous colleges and private training companies throughout the world [5]. He has also written and developed distance learning and webbed based training material for educational institutions and the British Army [6]. He appears on cruise ships as a guest speaker and subject expert in History and Architecture delivering talks on famous building of the world [7] [8].
Involved with numerous committees and with the setting of professional standards with regard to the planning and delivery of training for the Chartered Institute of Building, Institute of Highway Incorporated Engineers and the Association of Building Engineers [9][10].
Gatepain is a director of Gates MacBain Associates, a Construction Education and Training Company providing consultancy, education and training for the construction industry worldwide [11].
Military Service Ron Gatepain served with the Royal Marines between 1965 – 1972 with 45 Commando in Aden, 41 Commando in the UK and Norway and on the Assault ship HMS Intrepid. He has also served with the Reserve forces in the Royal Auxiliary Air Force Regiment and the Territorial Army with the Royal Pioneer Corps and Royal Logistic Corps retiring as the Commanding Officer of 168 Pioneer Regiment in 2000 with the rank of Lieutenant Colonel [12]. He is currently a committee member of the Reserve Forces and Cadets Association.
Books
External links
References: 1. http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P2-16302220.html 2. http://e-voice.org.uk/vanl/calendar/item/1359339 3. www.gatesmacbain.co.uk 4. Successful Property Development, RIA Publishing, 1995, IBSN 0 9525897 0 2 5. http://leadersme.com/php/courseSeminar.php?cid=44&coreid=6&linkid=10 6. Management for the Professions, RIA Publishing, 1996, ISBN 0 9525897 1 0 7. http://www.fredolsencruises-civilisations.co.uk/fck_pages.php?page_id=7 8. http://www.fredolsencruises-civilisations.co.uk/lecturers.php?page_id=25 9. www.ciob.org.uk/filegrab/1MinutesofAnnualGeneralMeeting160408.doc?ref=822 10. Op.sit Ref 3 11. Ibid 12. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/168_Pioneer_Regiment
Many thanks, Regards, 831squad 831squad ( talk) 00:20, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for taking the time out to respond to my message. Am glad that the delete tag has now been removed and article restored. Am trying to collect more material before posting it on wiki at which point your help may be needed. Thanks again for the very helpful points on how to seek help with editing. Take care Bonhomie1 ( talk) 05:25, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Moonriddengirl, I appreciate your response and suggestions and am quite happy relying on your opinion. I will see what I can do re other sources. Regards 831squad 831squad ( talk) 09:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Talk:Thiru Kumaran now gone, but Thiru Kumaran still there. Is it also to be deleted, or should it be changed to a simple redirect to Thirunavukkarasu Kumaran?-- Shirt58 ( talk) 13:28, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
...for not speedy deleting Celine! You preventing me from having a bad Wikipedia day...if those are possible? -- Krushdiva ( talk) 00:04, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Can you explain why these entries were allowed, any mine was deleted?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Loan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Inc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ditech
Each of the above entries offer some sort of advertisement about what these companies do, why can't I be granted the same consideration?
-Tom Shawgo 21:02, 19 May 2008 (UTC)21:02, 19 May 2008 (UTC)21:02, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Hey Moonriddengirl,
You are obsolutly right about me being a bit confused, im sorry to have wasted your time. Im trying to achieve something unique in music and i hadnt explained that a tall well in previous desription.
Now having read the criteria i am unsure if we do qualify. Im gonna tell you what we all about and see if you think we maybe are some sort of wierd sub section. if we are not then that is totally cool.
For ten years me a three school friends have worked hard at becoming an indiependant outfit that relies only its guile and own recource to record, tour, sell merchandise and raise money privatly (ie outside the normal of what bands usually aspire to do. IE get signed to a major, get an advance, go on a support tour and become famous. We have always wanted to do it differently. Noel Gallagher from Oasis was kind enough to let us use his large studio to make an album ourselves (he hasnt let any band our size use it) and we were asked by various big bands and big names to come play on tour etc with them.
We put together a new bizz model for how to achieve all the goals Majors do but with a much more favourable leaning towards the artist. It worked and we got backing to set up and more importantly have total artistic control over WE MAKE THINGS records. We are the guini pigs in a sense i guess but we do intend to further sign other bands etc.
We have had loads of great press and solid radio since releasing our 1st Single here in UK and altho it didnt chart (because we simply dont have the mustle behind us) the second single looks good and the album set for release in June has already got an offer from one of the biggest labels in Japan. we are set to do three main festivals this year Glastonbury, Bestival and Secret Garden party.
As i said before i totally realise why putting us in might open the flood gates but with XFM playlists and major support tours both iminent and already under our belts i thought i would at least write this opus for your perusal.
Biggest Best
Wemakethings ( talk) 08:26, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Hey, thanks so much for this. i think im gonna leave it to someone else and your words are lovely. maybe you come catch a show sometime. biggest best Wemakethings ( talk) 09:08, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
"Brooke shields herself from the brutal reality that is her life by finding solace in meaningless material goods and the never-ending pursuit of more and more wealth. But, little does she know, all the beachside condominiums and all-night free-for-all's cannot ease the ever-growing pain she feels at the end of each pointless and purposeless day, a pain that will never be satisfied by her decadence, a pain that will remain until the day she dies." [2] -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:08, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Where's the source for the award? This user has been consistently adding misinformation to articles, so I don't trust his statement that he won an award. Where he does add references, they don't say what he says they do, especially re people's ethnic backgrounds. Harry the Dog WOOF 15:08, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
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I appear to have a fairly tenuous grasp on what qualifies as CSD A7. Do you have any advice of how to determine whether someone or something is notable? If you want to see what I've been doing, you can look at my patrol log. J.delanoy gabs adds 15:11, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Okay, here goes. I'm sure you already know some of this, but I'm trying to be thorough. :D
To escape speedy, an article does not need to prove notability or even necessarily assert notability as Wikipedia defines it. It only needs to include information that suggests that its subject could be notable. If an article suggests there is something unique or important about its subject, it's probably not an A7 candidate. Similarly, if deletion of an article on the subject ("schools" as the explicit example) is likely to be controversial, it's not an A7 candidate even if it doesn't suggest that it's important. Also, A7 only applies to people (individually or grouped, as in bands, clubs or companies) and web content. It does not apply to sub-categories of those, like books, software, albums, products, etc. There does seem to be a bit of a gray area around web content. Personally, I would apply it, say, to a youtube video even though I could not technically apply it to, say, a VCR tape. Is it fair that "Billy Hates Vampires is a youtube video made by Billy Sniggs, age 12, and Bobbi Jo Hardey, age 10" is speediable while "Billy Hates Vampires is a VCR video made by...." isnt? Probably not. There've been efforts to add products to WP:CSD#A7. If we can find good wording for it, I'm all for that, especially when it comes to non-notable products released by non-notable individuals. Makes no sense to me that even if the band is speedied, its garage tape needs to be PRODded or AfDed. But, currently, that's the way consensus goes on the issue.
I wasn't here when it was created, but as I understand it, A7 was devised to help deal with articles like "John Smith lives in Pomona", "My new band is super cool" and "Harold's Hardware is a store on East and Main in Podunkville." We get so much of this kind of stuff that it was determined that having it hang around for PROD or AfD was a waste of time & resources. The limitations were placed to help make sure that we don't get overzealous in deleting this kind of thing, since sometimes John Smith of Pomona could be very important. :) If his article says "John Smith is a famous architect from Pomona", it may not verify notability, but it does suggest that there might be enough there to warrant further investigation. If further investigation doesn't turn up anything, then a PROD or AfD may be appropriate. Typically I go PROD if I'm pretty sure that my investigation was conclusive. If I think somebody else may come up with more, I go AfD. (For example, I would not necessarily PROD an article of borderline notability on somebody from another country if I do not have access to good sources for that country. I'd either start by asking for feedback from the relevant wikiproject or, if pretty sure, list at AfD and notify the relevant wikiproject.)
Looking at some of your specifics, let's take the article on Paul M. English as an example. It claims he is the founder of a website that has apparently received significant attention. It's not unreasonable that he might have achieved notability in that capacity. He's probably not a good A7 candidate. I might be inclined to propose a merger of the bio to the website article, but I see there are one or two other possible assertions of significance there. I'd probably tag it for clean-up if I had encountered it. (I did just now, actually. As a general rule of thumb, I don't place more than three tags on an article. If it's a real mess, I will sometimes use {{ articleissues}}.)
Looking at Cactus Jack (band), it is difficult to determine notability because the band is Serbian. It does suggest, though, that the band may be notable in the listing of five albums. Something like that probably warrants wider review.
Looking at Sayang dbsk malaysia, it seems that a number of people agreed with your assessment of the article as an A7 there. Can't say for sure why Iridescent decided to AfD it instead. If I had encountered that tagged A7, I would have agreed and deleted it.
You didn't ask about this, but I would like to make a point about WP:CSD#A1 and WP:CSD#A3. One common issue I see with new page patrollers (which, by the way, I used to be before I got the tools to work the other end) is a tendency to mark articles for deletion as "no context" or "no content" almost immediately after the page is created. I notice that you tagged Andrew Paquette that way a minute after its creation on May 18th. Please hold off with these tags until the creators have a little bit of a chance to add material. WP:CSD notes that creators sometimes work in stages, and we don't want to bite new content contributors by scaring the living daylights out of them a minute or two into their first efforts. They do tend to be puzzled and alarmed, sometimes offended, by deletion tags. I got a got a note from a creator about that very issue just a couple of days ago. I know that on new page patrol, you get into a routine, but it's a very good idea just to keep questionable pages of that sort open in a tab and pop back in on them a little later to see if development is ongoing.
You didn't ask about this, either, but I would like to suggest you re-read WP:CSD#G1. This is an often misapplied tag. You put it on the article Zott a few days ago, but G1 indicates that "This does not include: poor writing, partisan screeds, obscene remarks, vandalism, fictional material, material not in English, badly translated material, implausible theories, or hoaxes." It was deleted by WP:CSD#G3, which would have been the proper tag for hoaxes and fictional material, though this one turned out to actually be cruft of some kind. Evidently its up for merger now.
Anyway, I hope that this is helpful. I've actually noticed your recent tags and been impressed by them. You may be working out some of the finer points, but you seem pretty much on top of things as they go. :) I'm glad that you notify creators. That is so important for so many reasons (just to name two, it (a) helps creators figure out what happened to their articles and (b) helps creators figure out how not to create inappropriate articles in the future; I could name more), and yet so many new page patrollers neglect it.
If you want to talk about any of this any more, just let me know. I'm happy to volunteer my time. :D -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:21, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks for guiding me in the world of wikipedia contribution.
I have attempted to strengthen the "co-occurrence network" page through the addition of references and links to web pages that employ the concept in presenting information.
There are some things that you may be able to advise me on that I realize now may further improve the discussion of this and related topics on Wikipedia.
The topic of "co-occurrence networks" can be considered a subtopic of "Literature Networks". Another subtopic under this heading would be "co-citation networks". Since both co-occurrence and co-citation networks are very similar concepts, they are probably best discussed together under the umbrella of literature networks.
So my question then is: is it possible to get the terms "literature network", "co-occurrence network" and "co-citation network" all to point to the same page?
Best regards, Johnfravolda ( talk) 19:53, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! I think your instructions answered my questions on the topic. Johnfravolda ( talk) 21:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi again! I have done the major changes I plan on the co-occurrence network page. In that regard, I was wondering when the "tag" might be removed ("This article or section is in the middle of an expansion or major revamping."). Although I do plan to add figures and consolidate information about co-citation and literature networks in general, the page as it stands now has many references to primary work and describes a concept that helps support other wikipedia articles. Does it not merit the removal of the tag now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnfravolda ( talk • contribs) 18:28, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! I will remember that for the future Johnfravolda ( talk) 18:35, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
why did u delete danny welbeck's bio. he's a very good reserve team player for man utd and he deserves to have his bio on here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oltian ( talk • contribs) 15:09, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
While I was writing this, NawlinWiki deleted the page :P Anyways.....
This article even sayssaid that its source iswas
this webpage, which is written in Chinese. I don't know a single word in Chinese, so I translated the page using Google Translator. The
translated version, while obviously somewhat clunky, easily provesproved that the page iswas a direct translation (and copy/paste). Should I taghave tagged the page as a copyright violation?
J.delanoy
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Hello Moonriddengirl.
I noticed that you revert a good amount of
vandalism. Thank you for helping keep Wikipedia the best encyclopedia in the world!
However, I have noticed that you do not always leave warnings on the vandals talk pages. You should always leave an appropriate warning after reverting vandalism. (The full list of talk page warnings may be found
here, along with some suggestions and guidelines for using them.)
Be sure to leave the correct level of warning, and if the vandal has been warned four times recently, (Check the vandal's talk page history. Some vandals remove warnings from their talk pages.) report the vandal by going to
this page and following the instructions.
Thank you again, and may the vandals fail...
J.delanoy
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←Do you mind if I edit it to try things out? J.delanoy gabs adds 16:00, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi, MoonG. This might help with that url problem. Note here where it says something about a "url glitch". I don't fully understand, but I think it means that if you put in a url as an unnamed parameter, i.e. if you use a template like this {{templatename|param1}} then some url's with special characters won't work, but if you use it like this {{templatename|url=param1}} then it will work; alternatively you can do it like this {{templatename|1=param1}} which means the same as putting in an unnamed parameter as the first parameter, but I think will work with the url. You can try it and see. I hope this helps. Happy-melon probably understands this better than I do. :-) Coppertwig ( talk) 16:27, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
All right, my best shot is in my sandbox. What do you think? J.delanoy gabs adds 19:09, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
←Ok, I did it, but I moved the documentation to the wrong place the first time, so you'll probably want to delete User:Moonriddengirl/doc... J.delanoy gabs adds 19:25, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
←Actually, I just tried linking to a page with an equals sign in it, and the template doesn't work right. Back to the drawing board... J.delanoy gabs adds 13:07, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
No problem at all. :) I've been meaning to try to learn more about intricate template syntax, but I never had a reason to before. Thanks for letting me experiment with your template! :D J.delanoy gabs adds 19:45, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Not sure what to make of it. I'm not heartened by her ignoring my post to her talk page and blanking the page. It almost feels like a real but non notable subject that she's trying to build a set of articles about. Could not find anything on Google that would allow me to verify any of it. In fact, the internal links don't hold up at all, either. It looks to me like vandalism/hoax. I went ahead and speedy tagged the userpage feeling it was an attempt to evade a speedy deletion, but that was probably stretching CSD beyond the limit. The connection between the names "Cassidy" and " Kassandra Livingston" seems more than coincidental. I think we can afford to wait a while to see if Verifiability develops or if MFD is the answer. Cheers, 22:58, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Sorry for any inconvienience, but I can't get any pictures, I am only 12, It is a book/ play we are doing at school, sorry about that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HyperJ1 ( talk • contribs) 14:02, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, atcually it is from a book, that is what I meant. We read it, then using the script, we did activities.
LOL! Oh, knock knock jokes. :) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:53, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Can i have your help? please? i will NEVER ignore your messages again.
I Want to make my character pages without creating hoaxes. HELP!
Cassidy011 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cassidy011 ( talk • contribs) 12:02, 23 May 2008
I Have a script of one of the episodes, can i send it to you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cassidy011 ( talk • contribs) 12:34, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Its not a tv show, its a written series... if i can their fan mail addresses then i can tell them about the series. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cassidy011 ( talk • contribs) May 22 2008
PLEASE DONT DELETE MY PAGE, I WORKED SO HARD ON IT, IF YOU DELETE IT. TELL ME SOME OTHER PLACES I CAN HOST MY PAGE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cassidy011 ( talk • contribs) 19:58, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
It Doesnt Work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cassidy011 ( talk • contribs) 20:02, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, I Wonder how to make the info boxes on the wiki fiction. send me the login details and i will move all of my stuff right away. Cassidy011 ( talk) 20:11, 23 May 2008 (UTC) Cassidy
You should be aware of a posting on my talk page by another editor and my reply [3] . DGG ( talk) 23:06, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi Moon, Can i have ONLY 1 favor.
can i please keep my userpage here on wikipedia, please?
Cassidy011 ( talk) 00:02, 24 May 2008 (UTC)Cassidy
Well Yeah, one time my page came up broken and a dead link. i'll make sure my pages is NOT a hoax page, i promise on my dead body (sorry, i had to say that) Cassidy011 ( talk) 00:02, 24 May 2008 (UTC)Cassidy
Well, i cant move the stuff until they can make table templates and fix some stuff. Cassidy011 ( talk) 00:02, 24 May 2008 (UTC)Cassidy
Thanks! you saved me from losing my stuff. you are a awesome friend! Cassidy011 ( talk) 00:02, 24 May 2008 (UTC)Cassidy
Okay, Cassidy. I've been working on the wording of this. I want to be sure that I have myself understood what you're doing so that the contributors to "material for deletion" can fairly assess the situation.
“ | This userpage, which seems to be the sole focus of this editor aside from a series of mainspace articles (now deleted) created in conjunction with it, is inconsistent with userpage guidelines. It details an idea she has had and is not about an existing TV show. (See my talk page, a subsequent section on her page and then back to mine.) She really doesn’t want to lose this material, so I have created an account on her behalf at Wikia (she had some trouble doing so herself) and copied the material there. She’s not comfortable with their formatting and would like to be allowed to keep this page. I’d like to be welcoming and hospitable, but I have told her that I felt I had to bring this here for community evaluation. | ” |
Please let me know if I've understood what you're doing correctly (that this is your own idea). If not, I'll need to revise my wording. (Of course, if you decide you're comfortable with it at Wikia as it is, you also can simply blank it from your current userpage, and then there's no need to go to MfD.) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:30, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank You For Everything!!!!!!!!!!! your the best! Cassidy011 ( talk) 00:02, 24 May 2008 (UTC)Cassidy
Well, I thought this post of mine was funny, so I thought you might get a laugh out of it too: [4] ☺ Coppertwig ( talk) 02:07, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello Moonriddengirl, I really need your help to stop this user User:Maurice45 from removing plot summaries, he just removes them for no reason. He thinks they are just fairy tales (when everyone knows that plot is not an episode synopsis). Can you please tell me how to stop this user from removing necessary info. I have also visted his talk page, where couple of other users have talked to him on the same issue, but this user says,"I will go over my edits and rewrite them all" I don't know when he is going to do that because so far he is busy removing (vandalizing) articles. Just to make sure, I have read some of these plots, and they are perfectly okay to meet wikipedia standards (not copy infringments, not personal views, not episode synopsis) and I don't know why he wants to rewrite them. So can you please help me solve this issue because plot summaries/concept is very important otherwise the article about the TV series is worthless. I hope you will help out! Please Please Please! Your wiki friend Jesse402, 20:35, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
for the time and trouble you took to assess my contributions at my RFA, and the positive feedback you left! I appreciate the trust that you and others have in me, and hope not to goof up too badly, too quickly. Thanks again.-- Slp1 ( talk) 01:28, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
This article is a bio of a non-notable person written in Spanish. I knew enough Spanish to give it a closer look. After viewing a computer-generated translation, I tagged it with db-bio. Was that the correct way to do that? J.delanoy gabs adds 03:05, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi.
I've made a start on an article for this album, which is on the list of notable missing albums. It can currently be seen at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Brunton/Sandbox
I notice that you participate in the Albums and Missing article projects. I'm quite new to creating new articles, and any advice/observations etc. would be very welcome. In particular, I'm uncertain how to load an image for the album cover, and how to deal with disambiguation/redirects ( Hound Dog Taylor & The HouseRockers currently redirects to Hound Dog Taylor, so I imagine I need to do something about that). I'm aware that the background section needs expansion, particularly regarding the effect the album's success had on Taylor's career, and I'm looking for a source for this.
Regards, Brunton ( talk) 11:59, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I can see that you've deleted Slime Volleyball on the grounds that it was "Patent Nonsense" (on 15:34, 8 November 2007). I find that incredibly hard to understand. Could you please elaborate? CygnusPius ( talk) 22:34, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello Moonriddengirl, this is Survir. I need your help! You know there is an upcoming Indian television series called Waaris on Zee TV channel, but with the same title two other telvision series exist, one already aired on Zee TV channel in 1999. So I need your help in choosing/creating the correct title so I can create a page for this upcoming television series. (I already have used Waaris (Zee TV) for the old television drama-series. So what should I put for the new one. Besides that with the same title there will also be an another drama-series that will air on STAR Plus, one of the Indian channels. [Note:They all have different concept)! You can also take a look at the disambiguation page Waaris for help. This is just a minor question, I hope you will help. Thanx! your wiki friend Survir ( talk) 15:36, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
...but better late than never!
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YEAHH!!!!! Now, that is what I'm talkin' about! Thanks for answering my questions! J.delanoy gabs adds 01:54, 28 May 2008 (UTC) |
As this gibberish is being picked up by Google and displayed amongst my relevant poetry pages, I would request that any reference such as the above to me or my work is deleted forthwith. -- David Lewis Paget ( talk) 04:07, 27 May 2008 (UTC)David Lewis Paget
Thank you, Moonriddengirl. I do appreciate your help. -- David Lewis Paget ( talk) 06:11, 29 May 2008 (UTC) Also, rather troubling, a page has surfaced described on Google as - David Lewis Paget Comprehensive consumer drug information, including usage information, interaction precautions, side effects, and withdrawal or discontinuation effects. medlibrary.org/medwiki/David_Lewis_Paget - 18k - This would appear to indicate that I am a drug user, which I have never been. On clicki9ng onto the page, my name is prominent, but then it states that there is no such page. What is going on here? I'm most upset over this.-- David Lewis Paget ( talk) 06:18, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
Apologies for not getting back to you sooner on this topic, and for letting me know that our previous discussion had been archived. Things have been busy here, and I wanted to be able to take the time to discuss the issues in depth with Sassy before moving forward.
Sassy and I are both very grateful for the time that you have spent on this and the amendments that you have already made, which go some way to improve her personal security. However, we would like to investigate further the options for removing the name "Porter" from the page, as our preference would be to not include her last name in the Wikipedia page at all, since this does continue to expose her to some level of risk. I know that there are some references on the internet to the name "Porter", but in practice everyone in her industry always refers to her as DJ Sassy (or DJ Sassy P or DJ Sassy Pandez), so I don't believe that including her real name adds any particular value. If you could possibly seek additional feedback on this from other editors I think that would be useful, and then we can decide on the best way forward from there.
I have gone through my list of website links that can be used as references in support of the content of the page, and have found a few that I believe would be useful. But let's sort out the issue of the name first, and then we can follow this up.
Thanks in advance for your help. AquilaUK ( talk) 13:48, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
I'd like a copy of my (speedily) deleted article, the title of which is Silenize. I'd appreciate it if you'd help me.
Legionstrong ( talk) 13:35, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Would you mind if i used the template as the basis of mine? i would (of course) give you due credit. thanks! Ironho lds 15:41, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
No problem. Squamate ( talk) 00:30, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Moonriddengirl, I'm coming to you with a problem, since you did such a great job with the last one I had (with Grant Alpaugh, as you may remember) :-) JonBroxton came to me with a situation about a particular soccer player's wiki page, Jamie Watson (soccer). This player currently plays for a minor league squad ( Austin Aztex U23), but someone with an anonymous IP continues to delete any evidence of his existence on the team, even though multiple sources have been confirmed ( [5], [6], [7]). Could you help us out on this one, please? -- Otav347 ( talk) 02:24, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Extensive discussion of CSD is a bit off-topic for the RFA page. Still, your response surprises me. I'd assumed it was widely accepted (if not explicitly codified) that admins should exercise some judgment with CSDs. If you try to take them at their exact literal face value, you run into all kind of paradoxes and silliness. Garage band albums certainly can be deleted, just like an article for the band itself. The written CSDs lag behind actual practice. I don't personally see a good reason to try to keep them up to date- I'd rather call them historical and pay no further attention to them. One thing that is relevant to RFA- certainly it's good for a new admin to play things more or less "by the book" at first while they're getting comfortable. One they know better what they're doing, they will tend to use discretion more. This, as far as I know, is uncontroversial. I've been doing deletions that way for a year or two and I can't remember anyone ever having any reasonable objection. Friday (talk) 18:04, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
<-- I suspect we're closer together on deletion issues than we sound. The main reason I don't bother spending time to try to get the CSDs to match what people really do, is that this process is quite tedious and unlikely to succeed. You can scarcely change policy formally these days. Besides, the real policies and guidelines aren't what's written on some page somewhere. They're what exist in the minds of clueful editors everywhere. It's true that there are some legitimate differences of opinion on what belongs- so, any sensible admin won't tend to speedy cases like that. They'll speedy the things that obviously don't belong. I remember back when the "no assertion of significance" criteria referred only to people and not to groups. Well, "Billy and Jimmy are the two coolest kids in the world" is clearly speediable. This was true even before the CSD was updated to include groups. Sure, it's good that someone took the time to update the CSD, but I sure hope they didn't spend much time on it. I'm way more interested in what actually works than what's written on some policy page somewhere.
If someone objects to one of my deletions for some legitimate reason, I'll certainly listen (and probably undelete if this is what's best for our content.) But if someone just says "This does not exactly match this specific criterion", well.. I'll never find that a compelling reason. We can simplify and achieve better results by always thinking in terms of "how does this make Wikipedia better or worse?" instead of "What does section 3, paragraph 12 say?" If I'd been strictly following existing rules back a year or so ago, I would never have speedied a bunch of "Billy and Jimmy are two cool kids.." articles. But I did delete them, and Wikipedia is better off because of it. I did it because I knew any sensible editor would agree that the 'pedia was better off without that stuff. I don't need to worry about what WP:CSD says at the moment, as long as I follow this simple principle. Friday (talk) 20:50, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
I note that you removed a "duplicate" warning from User talk:Mglawyers. Take a look at this edit. I'll leave any action up to you. Thanks. Delicious carbuncle ( talk) 15:33, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Hey! Do you see anything in those comments other than the votes themselves? Gwen Gale ( talk) 22:39, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Hello, I wonder if you could take a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sara Goldrick-Rab. It seems that the consensus was Delete, but the article still exists. Could you delete it based on the previous AfD and CSD, or should I relist? Regards— G716 < T· C> 01:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Hello Miss Moonridengirl, I've noticed that you've removed the Speedy deletion tag in this article. So what will happen to that article now, if it seems that the original article it was splitted from doesn't cite any sources or such? Also, the contributor of those text doesn't seem to take note of it either. Thanks Logicartery ( talk) 14:01, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl. I strongly oppose the term "cooling denier" to be transwikied to the Wiktionary. Also I propose the the article Cooling denier to be speedy deleted. The User Kauffner has disrupted the Global Warming talk page multiple times yesterday. He was reverted three times by a different person each (2 of them being admins). I tried to leave a message on his talk page to explain why his post was not helpful to the improvement of the article and was removed. So did another admin. Afterwords he started deleting other peoples entries from the Global Warming talk page. His behavious is more than disruptive. Now, he has decided to create the article 'cooling deniers' for which there is no scientific base. Even the website he cites is not using this term, which seems to be made up by him. Therefore I deleted the template to transwiki the term. Is there something else that needs to be done? Thanks Splette :) How's my driving? 13:52, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Just curious as to how the article asserts notability now. Admittedly I'm a bit narked that the author removed the original speedy tag himself and made no attempt to discuss on the article's talk page but, I'm also trying to learn as I go what counts as a "proper" assertion of notability. Also I'd think the author removing the speedy tag sort of means that the deletion of the article is contested and therefore not a PRODable article or have I misunderstood that as well? Thanks. Jasynnash2 ( talk) 14:37, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
An article that you have been involved in editing, Rubén Serrano, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rubén Serrano. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Deor ( talk) 19:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
If a page is tagged by CorenSearchBot, should I tag it with csd g12 if the link the bot gives checks out? I haven't been, but I've seen some people do it. J.delanoy gabs analyze 02:54, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Our grumpy friend from the thread above will soon find his google search back to the old familiar. Your talk page ranks up there, but the next archive round of your page will take care of it. DLP's wiki-page was still showing up on the 2nd page of google, but I've expunged his name from various spam reporting and COI archives, the cross-links are gone, everything will be good. There is a strong temptation to shout DUDE, you registered your name on the world's 6th most-popular website and made an article about yourself, what did you THINK would happen? But, we're here to serve :) Since Mr. D.L. P. has not been forthcoming with reliable information to help us create an article, I consider our responsibilities here to be fully discharged. Plus ten bonus points! Franamax ( talk) 05:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi again. I'm bringing this here further to the above conversation we had about another article by the same author. I'm tempted to tag this for deletion but, am aware it may appear like I have some sort of vendetta or something against the author. Could you have a look and feed me back your opinion. Thanks. Jasynnash2 ( talk) 12:57, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I'd like to add a screenshot of the video game Close Combat First to Fight to the page, because I saw a reccomendation there to do so...
But I'm not exactly sure how to do this... A good way to describe my wiki skills: Abysmal.
Would appreciate any help,
thanks,
Gladiator 2 Contact 09:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
My wikiskills are good in some areas, but my ability to do screenshots is so not. :D I started looking for information related to your question at the video games wikiproject, which led me to
Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Video Game Images. It gives some specific steps about what to do on the Wikipedia end. There's more information at
Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Article_guidelines#Screenshots_and_cover_art. Also of potential use to you here is
Wikipedia:Picture tutorial. Beyond pointing those out, though, I'm afraid I may not be much use. I have no idea how to capture a screenshot. If those links don't help you, you probably could get feedback at
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Video Game Images. If none of that is helpful, please let me know, and I will try to track down somebody who may be more savvy about this than I am. --
Moonriddengirl
(talk) 17:01, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks,
Gladiator 2 Contact 12:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC) 13:16, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the message. I couldn't work out whether I was just missing the category. Thanks for letting me know. Ged UK ( talk) 19:28, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Go ahead and bundle them, they should have the same level of lack of notability. Corvus cornix talk 20:24, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
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For expanding, referencing and copyediting Anna Jean Ayres, I Milk's Favorite Cookie ( talk · contribs) award you the editors barnstar. Congrats! « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 01:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC) |
Thank you! Always willing to help out an article if I can. :) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
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Hi,
I'm contacting you about the Wikipedia page for DJ Sassy, which has undergone a number of edits over the last few months and has also been the subject of a discussion about possible deletion of the page.
My name is James McLeod and am Sassy's website administrator and DJ booking manager and have carried out a number of the recent edits at her request, including the addition of her current website biography information. If you wish to confirm my identity, please feel free to email me at administrator@djsassy.com or bookings@djsassy.com
I'm relatively new to Wikipedia, but having read the comments about the edits and possible deletion of the DJ Sassy page, I am starting to understand the kind of editorial policies that are applied, and I appreciate that the style of some of the material that we submitted earlier this year may have been overly-subjective. We are quite prepared to limit the information that we put on the page to that which is more objective and more readily verifiable, and over the last five years or so I have accumulated an archive of press articles, internet pages, and other information that could be used on Sassy's page.
However, Sassy and I do have concerns about some of the information which was added by you to the page, and which I have therefore tried to remove. The first is the inclusion of Sassy's full name and the town in which she lives at the start of the article. I appreciate that this information can be found on the internet if you look for it, but we have strong reservations about making this so highly visible : a Google search for DJ Sassy lists the Wikipedia page right near the top, with her name and town clearly displayed in the search results. Sassy is in reality quite a private person, which is why there are relatively few press articles about her, and she has in the past been the victim of stalkers : this has been very distressing for her and is something that we are keen to avoid in the future. If you could agree to not include Sassy's full name in the Wikipedia page that would be a big help, and if we could also just say that she is from London that would be quite acceptable : Bromley is a London Borough after all, and she spent much of her childhood in South London.
We also have an issue with the Sol Campbell story. Although it is widely known that Sassy and Sol dated, the story presented in the newspaper was not accurate and so we do not believe that it should be included on the page. Indeed, the paper did subsequently print an apology over some of the points made.
I would be grateful for your feedback on the above. Our biggest concern is the identity issue, which Sassy is very concerned about, to the extent that she would consider asking for the DJ Sassy page to be deleted from Wikipedia. I very much hope that this will not be necessary and that we can work out a mutually acceptable way forward.
I look forward to hearing from you soon, and would appreciate it if you could not modify the page again until we have been able to discuss these issues further. Thanks.
AquilaUK ( talk) 16:08, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments and feedback : all very useful. I must confess that I am still quite inexperienced with Wikipedia, and am certainly on a steep learning curve now, but it's all interesting stuff.
Thanks for changing Bromley, Kent to London. That is still accurate, but less specific, and also probably much more useful to an international audience.
I appreciate your comments with regard to Sassy's full name, and the uses of Saskia and Porter in various other sources. I will talk to Sassy about this, but I am almost certain that her preference would be to not include her real name (in any of its forms) in the Wikipedia page. In practice, everyone in her industry always refers to her as DJ Sassy (or DJ Sassy P or DJ Sassy Pandez), so I don't believe that including her real name adds any value. If you could possibly seek additional feedback on this from other editors I think that would be useful, and then we can decide on the best way forward from there.
As for the deletion of the references, I think that this is probably where my inexperience with Wikipedia shows itself. I understand the basic concept, but it gets complicated when one reference gets used multiple times on the page. My intention was to remove the reference for the Sol Campbell article, so if you could do that for me I would be grateful. I did also want to remove the reference for the Poor Little Rich Girls review, as I do have some alternative references for this which are much better, although I'll need to make sure that they are still valid first.
I do have various other references which can be used to support this page. Some are links to websites, others are scans or PDFs of articles and flyers from Sassy's DJ events, and some are video clips of her at work. I can make a selection of these available via links to her website if that would be helpful.
Assuming that we can resolve the remaining issues with Sassy's Wikipedia page, I would like to understand the best way to carry out future updates, given the perceived "conflict of interest" status with this page? I have read through the Conflict of Interest guidance page, and am not entirely clear on exactly how it would work for me. But we can discuss that more later.
For now, we need to sort out the issue of Sassy's real name being on the page. I'll speak to Sassy and if you can get some additional feedback from other editors then we'll see how we can move forward from there.
Thanks for your help. AquilaUK ( talk) 19:25, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
I understand, on re-reading, on the page you commented on was slightly notable.
However, you had no reason for two of the other Zodiac pages - they had no notablity at all. Rob Riv ( talk) 16:34, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
←That sounds like a good idea. :) They aren't open and shut cases for the purpose of CSD, I'm afraid, although they may be for AFD. For instance, you say, "there is no point that accepts "cult classic" as sufficient notability." A7 says it "is a lower standard than notability; to avoid speedy deletion an article does not have to prove that its subject is notable, just give a reasonable indication of why it might be notable." If an album is a cult classic, then there may be widespread coverage in published sources. It might be notable. It might have sold enough to go gold. It might be notable. It doesn't have to prove or verify it in order to survive CSD. It just has to suggest that perhaps it could. CSD, again, is deliberately narrow, only intended to address the most obvious and blatant cases. :) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:08, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm still leaning towards a G7 here, so I've undone the redirect. It was a short-lived Christmas album on a non-notable label, and I doubt anyone would search for it specifically. Also, I doubt anyone would create a new page for it, seeing as nobody's even touched Ty Herndon in ages. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ( Broken clamshells• Otter chirps) 18:32, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
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I wanted to personally thank you for taking part in the project-wide discussions regarding my candidacy for bureaucratship. After bureaucratic discussion, the bureaucrats decided that there was sufficient significant and varied opposition to my candidacy, and thus no consensus to promote. Although personally disappointed, I both understand and respect their decision, especially in light of historical conservatism the project has had when selecting its bureaucrats. I especially wanted to thank you for the thought and care you took in both making your decision as well as craftingyour support rationale; I am very appreciative of both. Although our joint efforts with Coppertwig may not result in a successful outcome this time around, I look forward to collaborating with you on potential RfA candidates in the future. If you have any further suggestions or comments as to how you think I could help the project, please let me know. Once again, thank you for your support. -- Avi ( talk) 18:34, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
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I know that Wind Dukes of Aaqa was previously deleted, and I created a redirect at the time. However, it looked like someone had created a new version of the article later. I don't know if that makes a difference - I know that just pasting the same content from an AFD-deleted article is worthy of a speedy delete, but does that apply if the article is completely rewritten? BOZ ( talk) 13:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
The G7 tag for Victor I. Petrik was placed by Huggle in what I figure was supposed to be a simple revert due to the removal of the hangon tag so two for two there. Next up, The joy formidable. This was an issue to me and still is as it's just a bunch of links and again was a result of the tool.
I'm saying it's the tool because I'm not that unaware or working too fast to notice when someone didn't blank the article as a request for deletion but marks it as such anyway. Feh, I'm sticking to more manual means of CSD in the future. treelo talk 14:03, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
The one reference/link goes to a page where you have to pay in order to get access. I fail to see how it doesn't meet the speedy deletion criteria as an advertisement. I also specifically said to the author on their talk page how to work on improving the article so that it wasn't an advertisement. If I'm in the wrong than I'm more than happy to help improve the articles somehow but, not on my own. Thanks for your time. Jasynnash2 ( talk) 14:32, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi, why did you block user WorkingInPartnershipProgramme? Which part of policy are they breaking? Did you ask them to change their username before you blocked them? Did you see that other editors were working with that user, talking about COI and helping the user to add content to the encyclopedia? Dan Beale-Cocks 14:39, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your assistance and effort to be an impartial sifter of the facts. While the article is clearly still a stub, I feel you were effective in removing the blatant ideological bias and misinformation when I was ethically bound not to do any edits. I posted a blog entry http://ianthal.blogspot.com/2008/05/update-to-when-wikipedia-renders-one-un.html so that my readers can get a better idea of how to deal with these sorts of disputes in a constructive and civil manner. IanThal ( talk) 15:54, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello Moodriddengirl
Thanks for the guidance. I have now rewritten the article which I hope conforms to your style. I attach a couple of articles taken from the web which I hope will indicate that Ron meets your criteria for an academic. It was designed as a link from the 168th Pioneer Regiment as it was he who formed two of the Regiments Squadrons. He was also responsible for the introduction of Distance Learning into the Royal Logistic Corps. If this is acceptable I will then insert the appropriate links. Though I would appreciate any further comments.
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831squad
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Ron Gatepain – Writer and Lecturer
Ron Gatepain TD, BSc, MPhil, MEd, MBEng, FCIOB, FASI, MRICS, MCMI, MIfL, PGCE, LCG (b. 1947) is a Chartered Surveyor, Corporate Building Surveyor, Chartered Builder, Corporate Building Engineer and Architectural Historian.
Lecturing
Currently Ron is a visiting Lecturer at the Bishop Grosseteste University College, Lincoln, England on their Heritage Degree courses. Having in the past been a visiting lecturer for the Nottingham Trent University and Loughborough University and numerous colleges. He is a Director of Gates MacBain Associates a Construction Education and Training Company and carries out engagements as a guest speaker on cruise ships for P&O, Fred Olsen and Saga speaking on History and Architecture.
Business Experience
He was for a number of years Managing Director of a Property Development Company and was a director of a number of companies with interest in retail, manufacturing, services and the entertainment industry.
Military Service
He served with the Royal Marines between 1965 – 1972 with 45 Commando in Aden, 41 Commando in the UK and Norway and on the Assault ship HMS Intrepid. He has also served with the Reserve forces in the Royal Auxiliary Air Force Regiment and the Territorial Army with the Royal Pioneer Corps and Royal Logistic Corps retiring in 2000 as the Commanding Officer of 168 Pioneer Regiment with the rank of Lieutenant Colonel. He is now a member of the Reserve Forces and Cadets Association Committee.
External Commitments
He is involved on the committees or with the delivery of training for the Chartered Institute of Building, Institute of Highway Incorporated Engineers and the Association of Building Engineers.
Books
• Successful Property Development, RIA Publishing, 1995, IBSN 0 9525897 0 2
• Management for the Professions, RIA Publishing, 1996,
ISBN
0 9525897 1 0
External links
• www.gatepain.co.uk
• www.gatesmacbain.co.uk
831squad (
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I read where you can copy deleted pages and move them to my userpage. I am asking if you could do this for the following three articles:
East Carolina Pirates football, 1970-1979 East Carolina Pirates football, 1980-1989 East Carolina Pirates football, 2000-2009
Thanks, PG Pirate 13:50, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Moonriddengirl, I will see what I can come up with and get back to you. 831squad 831squad ( talk) 15:39, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi -
Thanks for the tip. I have been doing speedy deletes for ages and you are the first person to give me this tip of putting it on the users page. I will do this in future. Also thanks for the notenglish pointer as I looked for something like this and couldn't find it (did he look long enough you say....!!) BustOut ( talk)
Hey I was hoping you could help sort out the situation between myself ( Grant.Alpaugh ( talk · contribs)), Kingjeff ( talk · contribs), and Otav347 ( talk · contribs) about the 2008 Major League Soccer season article, and all of the templates on that article, namely Template:2008 MLS standings - Eastern, Template:2008 MLS standings - Western, Template:2008 MLS standings - Overall, and Template:2008 MLS Scores, as well as 2008 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup qualification. The disagreement stems from the issue regarding the format of games as Home-Away or Away-Home and standings as W-D-L or W-L-T. I agree the disagreement is small, but it has caused quite the controversy. The discussion is mostly at Talk:2008 Major League Soccer season and Talk:2008 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup qualification, though the Open Cup conversation has been almost entirely copied to the MLS article's talk page. The discussion has also spilled over into our talk pages as well. While it would be nice if you could weigh in on the issue of the debate, I would mostly like your opinion about the tone of the discussion, mostly between myself and Kingjeff, as I believe many of his comments to constitute violations of WP:GOODFAITH and/or WP:NPA. At the beginning of the discussion Otav347 began to take the discussion down a personal tone, I called him on it, and he promptly apologized and has endeavored to keep things civil as much as possible from there on. Kingjeff, on the other hand, has made this debate much more personal, resulting, I believe from an edit to UEFA Champions League 2007-08 on April 15th or 16th in which he shrunk certain names of teams in the competition to a smaller font, which I reverted as vandalism, but he later explained was because on some resolutions the names were appearing in two lines, causing the bracket to deform. He made a comment on the talk page of another user I had been collaborating with at the time ( PeeJay2K3 ( talk · contribs)), I referred to it in my conversation with PeeJay, and Kingjeff accused me of following him around the WP. It was at this point that he collaborated with US - Jimmy Slade ( talk · contribs) during his fit of vandalism to my userpages. I didn't think it was as big a deal then, but now almost a month later, he's begun attacking me again, making me out to be a coward on my talk page, accusing me of trying to own articles when I explicitly did the opposite, and generally defaming my character. I've repeatedly asked him to change the tone of his remarks and refrain from making not-so-thinly-veiled personal attacks. Most frivilously, he's brought allegations of sockpuppetry against me and everyone that voted along with me because my roommate reverted the templates in question at my request, similar to his request that Otav continue the edit war because he would be unable to do so for 22 more hours. I've been upfront about the fact that my roommate uses the same IP as I do as we're in an apartment and hooked up to the same connection. He didn't create an account, but he didn't need to to make the edit. He acted in good faith, as did I. I realize I've thrown a mountain of stuff at you, so if it takes you a day or two to respond, that's fine, but I would appreciate a response, especially as you dealt so well with the US - Jimmy Slade issue before. Thanks again, and have a great day. -- Grant . Alpaugh 06:45, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
He says one thing then does a 180 when it suits him. I'm not the only one who has seen this. As far as the sock puppet case goes, the main issue is with the IP Address. The IP Address has only 4 edits in which all 4 were reverts which just happens to agree with Grant. As far as the other users are concerned, it's more of suspicion of Grant. I have had 2 users that have said that the IP Address reporting is ligitimate. Kingjeff ( talk) 21:18, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
This issue is regarding
Template:2008 MLS standings - Eastern,
Template:2008 MLS standings - Western and
Template:2008 MLS standings - Overall. I feel that it should be under the format of W-L-T should stand until the issue is resolved because
Wikipedia:How to edit a page says "...Before engaging in a major edit, a user should consider discussing proposed changes on the article discussion/talk page..." and "A major edit should be reviewed to confirm that it is consensual to all concerned editors. Therefore, any change that affects the meaning of an article is major (not minor), even if the edit is a single word." We are onl discussing it now, after the fact. Grant feels that W-D-L should stand until the issue is solved.
Kingjeff (
talk) 01:45, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
It's still a major edit Grant. The table is a big part of seasonal sports article. Kingjeff ( talk) 02:03, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
But I think we need a decision one way or the other. Kingjeff ( talk) 03:01, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Can you take a look into this, this, this, and this for me? I'm pretty sure this is a direct attempt to manipulate polling and falsify consensus, which I never had my roommate do. All he did was keep the site from being changed before consensus was reached. This qualifies as sockpuppetry, and the IP account should be banned, and Kingjeff should be warned, no? It also strikes me as quite silly since the issue has already been resolved in his favor. -- Grant . Alpaugh 20:25, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello Moonriddengirl, I have had another go at the article on Ron Gatepain and would appreciate your comments as to weather it is now okay to submit.
Ron Gatepain – Writer and Lecturer
Ron Gatepain is a renowned architectural historian [1] [2] and construction educationalist. A Chartered Surveyor, Corporate Building Surveyor, Chartered Builder and Corporate Building Engineer, he is a visiting lecturer at the Bishop Grosseteste University College, Lincoln, England in Heritage Studies and has delivered courses as a visiting lecturer at the Nottingham Trent University and Loughborough University [3] [4] and numerous colleges and private training companies throughout the world [5]. He has also written and developed distance learning and webbed based training material for educational institutions and the British Army [6]. He appears on cruise ships as a guest speaker and subject expert in History and Architecture delivering talks on famous building of the world [7] [8].
Involved with numerous committees and with the setting of professional standards with regard to the planning and delivery of training for the Chartered Institute of Building, Institute of Highway Incorporated Engineers and the Association of Building Engineers [9][10].
Gatepain is a director of Gates MacBain Associates, a Construction Education and Training Company providing consultancy, education and training for the construction industry worldwide [11].
Military Service Ron Gatepain served with the Royal Marines between 1965 – 1972 with 45 Commando in Aden, 41 Commando in the UK and Norway and on the Assault ship HMS Intrepid. He has also served with the Reserve forces in the Royal Auxiliary Air Force Regiment and the Territorial Army with the Royal Pioneer Corps and Royal Logistic Corps retiring as the Commanding Officer of 168 Pioneer Regiment in 2000 with the rank of Lieutenant Colonel [12]. He is currently a committee member of the Reserve Forces and Cadets Association.
Books
External links
References: 1. http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P2-16302220.html 2. http://e-voice.org.uk/vanl/calendar/item/1359339 3. www.gatesmacbain.co.uk 4. Successful Property Development, RIA Publishing, 1995, IBSN 0 9525897 0 2 5. http://leadersme.com/php/courseSeminar.php?cid=44&coreid=6&linkid=10 6. Management for the Professions, RIA Publishing, 1996, ISBN 0 9525897 1 0 7. http://www.fredolsencruises-civilisations.co.uk/fck_pages.php?page_id=7 8. http://www.fredolsencruises-civilisations.co.uk/lecturers.php?page_id=25 9. www.ciob.org.uk/filegrab/1MinutesofAnnualGeneralMeeting160408.doc?ref=822 10. Op.sit Ref 3 11. Ibid 12. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/168_Pioneer_Regiment
Many thanks, Regards, 831squad 831squad ( talk) 00:20, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for taking the time out to respond to my message. Am glad that the delete tag has now been removed and article restored. Am trying to collect more material before posting it on wiki at which point your help may be needed. Thanks again for the very helpful points on how to seek help with editing. Take care Bonhomie1 ( talk) 05:25, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Moonriddengirl, I appreciate your response and suggestions and am quite happy relying on your opinion. I will see what I can do re other sources. Regards 831squad 831squad ( talk) 09:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Talk:Thiru Kumaran now gone, but Thiru Kumaran still there. Is it also to be deleted, or should it be changed to a simple redirect to Thirunavukkarasu Kumaran?-- Shirt58 ( talk) 13:28, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
...for not speedy deleting Celine! You preventing me from having a bad Wikipedia day...if those are possible? -- Krushdiva ( talk) 00:04, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Can you explain why these entries were allowed, any mine was deleted?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Loan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Inc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ditech
Each of the above entries offer some sort of advertisement about what these companies do, why can't I be granted the same consideration?
-Tom Shawgo 21:02, 19 May 2008 (UTC)21:02, 19 May 2008 (UTC)21:02, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Hey Moonriddengirl,
You are obsolutly right about me being a bit confused, im sorry to have wasted your time. Im trying to achieve something unique in music and i hadnt explained that a tall well in previous desription.
Now having read the criteria i am unsure if we do qualify. Im gonna tell you what we all about and see if you think we maybe are some sort of wierd sub section. if we are not then that is totally cool.
For ten years me a three school friends have worked hard at becoming an indiependant outfit that relies only its guile and own recource to record, tour, sell merchandise and raise money privatly (ie outside the normal of what bands usually aspire to do. IE get signed to a major, get an advance, go on a support tour and become famous. We have always wanted to do it differently. Noel Gallagher from Oasis was kind enough to let us use his large studio to make an album ourselves (he hasnt let any band our size use it) and we were asked by various big bands and big names to come play on tour etc with them.
We put together a new bizz model for how to achieve all the goals Majors do but with a much more favourable leaning towards the artist. It worked and we got backing to set up and more importantly have total artistic control over WE MAKE THINGS records. We are the guini pigs in a sense i guess but we do intend to further sign other bands etc.
We have had loads of great press and solid radio since releasing our 1st Single here in UK and altho it didnt chart (because we simply dont have the mustle behind us) the second single looks good and the album set for release in June has already got an offer from one of the biggest labels in Japan. we are set to do three main festivals this year Glastonbury, Bestival and Secret Garden party.
As i said before i totally realise why putting us in might open the flood gates but with XFM playlists and major support tours both iminent and already under our belts i thought i would at least write this opus for your perusal.
Biggest Best
Wemakethings ( talk) 08:26, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Hey, thanks so much for this. i think im gonna leave it to someone else and your words are lovely. maybe you come catch a show sometime. biggest best Wemakethings ( talk) 09:08, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
"Brooke shields herself from the brutal reality that is her life by finding solace in meaningless material goods and the never-ending pursuit of more and more wealth. But, little does she know, all the beachside condominiums and all-night free-for-all's cannot ease the ever-growing pain she feels at the end of each pointless and purposeless day, a pain that will never be satisfied by her decadence, a pain that will remain until the day she dies." [2] -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:08, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Where's the source for the award? This user has been consistently adding misinformation to articles, so I don't trust his statement that he won an award. Where he does add references, they don't say what he says they do, especially re people's ethnic backgrounds. Harry the Dog WOOF 15:08, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
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I appear to have a fairly tenuous grasp on what qualifies as CSD A7. Do you have any advice of how to determine whether someone or something is notable? If you want to see what I've been doing, you can look at my patrol log. J.delanoy gabs adds 15:11, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Okay, here goes. I'm sure you already know some of this, but I'm trying to be thorough. :D
To escape speedy, an article does not need to prove notability or even necessarily assert notability as Wikipedia defines it. It only needs to include information that suggests that its subject could be notable. If an article suggests there is something unique or important about its subject, it's probably not an A7 candidate. Similarly, if deletion of an article on the subject ("schools" as the explicit example) is likely to be controversial, it's not an A7 candidate even if it doesn't suggest that it's important. Also, A7 only applies to people (individually or grouped, as in bands, clubs or companies) and web content. It does not apply to sub-categories of those, like books, software, albums, products, etc. There does seem to be a bit of a gray area around web content. Personally, I would apply it, say, to a youtube video even though I could not technically apply it to, say, a VCR tape. Is it fair that "Billy Hates Vampires is a youtube video made by Billy Sniggs, age 12, and Bobbi Jo Hardey, age 10" is speediable while "Billy Hates Vampires is a VCR video made by...." isnt? Probably not. There've been efforts to add products to WP:CSD#A7. If we can find good wording for it, I'm all for that, especially when it comes to non-notable products released by non-notable individuals. Makes no sense to me that even if the band is speedied, its garage tape needs to be PRODded or AfDed. But, currently, that's the way consensus goes on the issue.
I wasn't here when it was created, but as I understand it, A7 was devised to help deal with articles like "John Smith lives in Pomona", "My new band is super cool" and "Harold's Hardware is a store on East and Main in Podunkville." We get so much of this kind of stuff that it was determined that having it hang around for PROD or AfD was a waste of time & resources. The limitations were placed to help make sure that we don't get overzealous in deleting this kind of thing, since sometimes John Smith of Pomona could be very important. :) If his article says "John Smith is a famous architect from Pomona", it may not verify notability, but it does suggest that there might be enough there to warrant further investigation. If further investigation doesn't turn up anything, then a PROD or AfD may be appropriate. Typically I go PROD if I'm pretty sure that my investigation was conclusive. If I think somebody else may come up with more, I go AfD. (For example, I would not necessarily PROD an article of borderline notability on somebody from another country if I do not have access to good sources for that country. I'd either start by asking for feedback from the relevant wikiproject or, if pretty sure, list at AfD and notify the relevant wikiproject.)
Looking at some of your specifics, let's take the article on Paul M. English as an example. It claims he is the founder of a website that has apparently received significant attention. It's not unreasonable that he might have achieved notability in that capacity. He's probably not a good A7 candidate. I might be inclined to propose a merger of the bio to the website article, but I see there are one or two other possible assertions of significance there. I'd probably tag it for clean-up if I had encountered it. (I did just now, actually. As a general rule of thumb, I don't place more than three tags on an article. If it's a real mess, I will sometimes use {{ articleissues}}.)
Looking at Cactus Jack (band), it is difficult to determine notability because the band is Serbian. It does suggest, though, that the band may be notable in the listing of five albums. Something like that probably warrants wider review.
Looking at Sayang dbsk malaysia, it seems that a number of people agreed with your assessment of the article as an A7 there. Can't say for sure why Iridescent decided to AfD it instead. If I had encountered that tagged A7, I would have agreed and deleted it.
You didn't ask about this, but I would like to make a point about WP:CSD#A1 and WP:CSD#A3. One common issue I see with new page patrollers (which, by the way, I used to be before I got the tools to work the other end) is a tendency to mark articles for deletion as "no context" or "no content" almost immediately after the page is created. I notice that you tagged Andrew Paquette that way a minute after its creation on May 18th. Please hold off with these tags until the creators have a little bit of a chance to add material. WP:CSD notes that creators sometimes work in stages, and we don't want to bite new content contributors by scaring the living daylights out of them a minute or two into their first efforts. They do tend to be puzzled and alarmed, sometimes offended, by deletion tags. I got a got a note from a creator about that very issue just a couple of days ago. I know that on new page patrol, you get into a routine, but it's a very good idea just to keep questionable pages of that sort open in a tab and pop back in on them a little later to see if development is ongoing.
You didn't ask about this, either, but I would like to suggest you re-read WP:CSD#G1. This is an often misapplied tag. You put it on the article Zott a few days ago, but G1 indicates that "This does not include: poor writing, partisan screeds, obscene remarks, vandalism, fictional material, material not in English, badly translated material, implausible theories, or hoaxes." It was deleted by WP:CSD#G3, which would have been the proper tag for hoaxes and fictional material, though this one turned out to actually be cruft of some kind. Evidently its up for merger now.
Anyway, I hope that this is helpful. I've actually noticed your recent tags and been impressed by them. You may be working out some of the finer points, but you seem pretty much on top of things as they go. :) I'm glad that you notify creators. That is so important for so many reasons (just to name two, it (a) helps creators figure out what happened to their articles and (b) helps creators figure out how not to create inappropriate articles in the future; I could name more), and yet so many new page patrollers neglect it.
If you want to talk about any of this any more, just let me know. I'm happy to volunteer my time. :D -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:21, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks for guiding me in the world of wikipedia contribution.
I have attempted to strengthen the "co-occurrence network" page through the addition of references and links to web pages that employ the concept in presenting information.
There are some things that you may be able to advise me on that I realize now may further improve the discussion of this and related topics on Wikipedia.
The topic of "co-occurrence networks" can be considered a subtopic of "Literature Networks". Another subtopic under this heading would be "co-citation networks". Since both co-occurrence and co-citation networks are very similar concepts, they are probably best discussed together under the umbrella of literature networks.
So my question then is: is it possible to get the terms "literature network", "co-occurrence network" and "co-citation network" all to point to the same page?
Best regards, Johnfravolda ( talk) 19:53, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! I think your instructions answered my questions on the topic. Johnfravolda ( talk) 21:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi again! I have done the major changes I plan on the co-occurrence network page. In that regard, I was wondering when the "tag" might be removed ("This article or section is in the middle of an expansion or major revamping."). Although I do plan to add figures and consolidate information about co-citation and literature networks in general, the page as it stands now has many references to primary work and describes a concept that helps support other wikipedia articles. Does it not merit the removal of the tag now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnfravolda ( talk • contribs) 18:28, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! I will remember that for the future Johnfravolda ( talk) 18:35, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
why did u delete danny welbeck's bio. he's a very good reserve team player for man utd and he deserves to have his bio on here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oltian ( talk • contribs) 15:09, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
While I was writing this, NawlinWiki deleted the page :P Anyways.....
This article even sayssaid that its source iswas
this webpage, which is written in Chinese. I don't know a single word in Chinese, so I translated the page using Google Translator. The
translated version, while obviously somewhat clunky, easily provesproved that the page iswas a direct translation (and copy/paste). Should I taghave tagged the page as a copyright violation?
J.delanoy
gabs
adds 15:18, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello Moonriddengirl.
I noticed that you revert a good amount of
vandalism. Thank you for helping keep Wikipedia the best encyclopedia in the world!
However, I have noticed that you do not always leave warnings on the vandals talk pages. You should always leave an appropriate warning after reverting vandalism. (The full list of talk page warnings may be found
here, along with some suggestions and guidelines for using them.)
Be sure to leave the correct level of warning, and if the vandal has been warned four times recently, (Check the vandal's talk page history. Some vandals remove warnings from their talk pages.) report the vandal by going to
this page and following the instructions.
Thank you again, and may the vandals fail...
J.delanoy
gabs
adds 15:32, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
←Do you mind if I edit it to try things out? J.delanoy gabs adds 16:00, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi, MoonG. This might help with that url problem. Note here where it says something about a "url glitch". I don't fully understand, but I think it means that if you put in a url as an unnamed parameter, i.e. if you use a template like this {{templatename|param1}} then some url's with special characters won't work, but if you use it like this {{templatename|url=param1}} then it will work; alternatively you can do it like this {{templatename|1=param1}} which means the same as putting in an unnamed parameter as the first parameter, but I think will work with the url. You can try it and see. I hope this helps. Happy-melon probably understands this better than I do. :-) Coppertwig ( talk) 16:27, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
All right, my best shot is in my sandbox. What do you think? J.delanoy gabs adds 19:09, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
←Ok, I did it, but I moved the documentation to the wrong place the first time, so you'll probably want to delete User:Moonriddengirl/doc... J.delanoy gabs adds 19:25, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
←Actually, I just tried linking to a page with an equals sign in it, and the template doesn't work right. Back to the drawing board... J.delanoy gabs adds 13:07, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
No problem at all. :) I've been meaning to try to learn more about intricate template syntax, but I never had a reason to before. Thanks for letting me experiment with your template! :D J.delanoy gabs adds 19:45, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Not sure what to make of it. I'm not heartened by her ignoring my post to her talk page and blanking the page. It almost feels like a real but non notable subject that she's trying to build a set of articles about. Could not find anything on Google that would allow me to verify any of it. In fact, the internal links don't hold up at all, either. It looks to me like vandalism/hoax. I went ahead and speedy tagged the userpage feeling it was an attempt to evade a speedy deletion, but that was probably stretching CSD beyond the limit. The connection between the names "Cassidy" and " Kassandra Livingston" seems more than coincidental. I think we can afford to wait a while to see if Verifiability develops or if MFD is the answer. Cheers, 22:58, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Sorry for any inconvienience, but I can't get any pictures, I am only 12, It is a book/ play we are doing at school, sorry about that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HyperJ1 ( talk • contribs) 14:02, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, atcually it is from a book, that is what I meant. We read it, then using the script, we did activities.
LOL! Oh, knock knock jokes. :) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:53, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Can i have your help? please? i will NEVER ignore your messages again.
I Want to make my character pages without creating hoaxes. HELP!
Cassidy011 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cassidy011 ( talk • contribs) 12:02, 23 May 2008
I Have a script of one of the episodes, can i send it to you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cassidy011 ( talk • contribs) 12:34, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Its not a tv show, its a written series... if i can their fan mail addresses then i can tell them about the series. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cassidy011 ( talk • contribs) May 22 2008
PLEASE DONT DELETE MY PAGE, I WORKED SO HARD ON IT, IF YOU DELETE IT. TELL ME SOME OTHER PLACES I CAN HOST MY PAGE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cassidy011 ( talk • contribs) 19:58, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
It Doesnt Work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cassidy011 ( talk • contribs) 20:02, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, I Wonder how to make the info boxes on the wiki fiction. send me the login details and i will move all of my stuff right away. Cassidy011 ( talk) 20:11, 23 May 2008 (UTC) Cassidy
You should be aware of a posting on my talk page by another editor and my reply [3] . DGG ( talk) 23:06, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi Moon, Can i have ONLY 1 favor.
can i please keep my userpage here on wikipedia, please?
Cassidy011 ( talk) 00:02, 24 May 2008 (UTC)Cassidy
Well Yeah, one time my page came up broken and a dead link. i'll make sure my pages is NOT a hoax page, i promise on my dead body (sorry, i had to say that) Cassidy011 ( talk) 00:02, 24 May 2008 (UTC)Cassidy
Well, i cant move the stuff until they can make table templates and fix some stuff. Cassidy011 ( talk) 00:02, 24 May 2008 (UTC)Cassidy
Thanks! you saved me from losing my stuff. you are a awesome friend! Cassidy011 ( talk) 00:02, 24 May 2008 (UTC)Cassidy
Okay, Cassidy. I've been working on the wording of this. I want to be sure that I have myself understood what you're doing so that the contributors to "material for deletion" can fairly assess the situation.
“ | This userpage, which seems to be the sole focus of this editor aside from a series of mainspace articles (now deleted) created in conjunction with it, is inconsistent with userpage guidelines. It details an idea she has had and is not about an existing TV show. (See my talk page, a subsequent section on her page and then back to mine.) She really doesn’t want to lose this material, so I have created an account on her behalf at Wikia (she had some trouble doing so herself) and copied the material there. She’s not comfortable with their formatting and would like to be allowed to keep this page. I’d like to be welcoming and hospitable, but I have told her that I felt I had to bring this here for community evaluation. | ” |
Please let me know if I've understood what you're doing correctly (that this is your own idea). If not, I'll need to revise my wording. (Of course, if you decide you're comfortable with it at Wikia as it is, you also can simply blank it from your current userpage, and then there's no need to go to MfD.) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:30, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank You For Everything!!!!!!!!!!! your the best! Cassidy011 ( talk) 00:02, 24 May 2008 (UTC)Cassidy
Well, I thought this post of mine was funny, so I thought you might get a laugh out of it too: [4] ☺ Coppertwig ( talk) 02:07, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello Moonriddengirl, I really need your help to stop this user User:Maurice45 from removing plot summaries, he just removes them for no reason. He thinks they are just fairy tales (when everyone knows that plot is not an episode synopsis). Can you please tell me how to stop this user from removing necessary info. I have also visted his talk page, where couple of other users have talked to him on the same issue, but this user says,"I will go over my edits and rewrite them all" I don't know when he is going to do that because so far he is busy removing (vandalizing) articles. Just to make sure, I have read some of these plots, and they are perfectly okay to meet wikipedia standards (not copy infringments, not personal views, not episode synopsis) and I don't know why he wants to rewrite them. So can you please help me solve this issue because plot summaries/concept is very important otherwise the article about the TV series is worthless. I hope you will help out! Please Please Please! Your wiki friend Jesse402, 20:35, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
for the time and trouble you took to assess my contributions at my RFA, and the positive feedback you left! I appreciate the trust that you and others have in me, and hope not to goof up too badly, too quickly. Thanks again.-- Slp1 ( talk) 01:28, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
This article is a bio of a non-notable person written in Spanish. I knew enough Spanish to give it a closer look. After viewing a computer-generated translation, I tagged it with db-bio. Was that the correct way to do that? J.delanoy gabs adds 03:05, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi.
I've made a start on an article for this album, which is on the list of notable missing albums. It can currently be seen at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Brunton/Sandbox
I notice that you participate in the Albums and Missing article projects. I'm quite new to creating new articles, and any advice/observations etc. would be very welcome. In particular, I'm uncertain how to load an image for the album cover, and how to deal with disambiguation/redirects ( Hound Dog Taylor & The HouseRockers currently redirects to Hound Dog Taylor, so I imagine I need to do something about that). I'm aware that the background section needs expansion, particularly regarding the effect the album's success had on Taylor's career, and I'm looking for a source for this.
Regards, Brunton ( talk) 11:59, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I can see that you've deleted Slime Volleyball on the grounds that it was "Patent Nonsense" (on 15:34, 8 November 2007). I find that incredibly hard to understand. Could you please elaborate? CygnusPius ( talk) 22:34, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello Moonriddengirl, this is Survir. I need your help! You know there is an upcoming Indian television series called Waaris on Zee TV channel, but with the same title two other telvision series exist, one already aired on Zee TV channel in 1999. So I need your help in choosing/creating the correct title so I can create a page for this upcoming television series. (I already have used Waaris (Zee TV) for the old television drama-series. So what should I put for the new one. Besides that with the same title there will also be an another drama-series that will air on STAR Plus, one of the Indian channels. [Note:They all have different concept)! You can also take a look at the disambiguation page Waaris for help. This is just a minor question, I hope you will help. Thanx! your wiki friend Survir ( talk) 15:36, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
...but better late than never!
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YEAHH!!!!! Now, that is what I'm talkin' about! Thanks for answering my questions! J.delanoy gabs adds 01:54, 28 May 2008 (UTC) |
As this gibberish is being picked up by Google and displayed amongst my relevant poetry pages, I would request that any reference such as the above to me or my work is deleted forthwith. -- David Lewis Paget ( talk) 04:07, 27 May 2008 (UTC)David Lewis Paget
Thank you, Moonriddengirl. I do appreciate your help. -- David Lewis Paget ( talk) 06:11, 29 May 2008 (UTC) Also, rather troubling, a page has surfaced described on Google as - David Lewis Paget Comprehensive consumer drug information, including usage information, interaction precautions, side effects, and withdrawal or discontinuation effects. medlibrary.org/medwiki/David_Lewis_Paget - 18k - This would appear to indicate that I am a drug user, which I have never been. On clicki9ng onto the page, my name is prominent, but then it states that there is no such page. What is going on here? I'm most upset over this.-- David Lewis Paget ( talk) 06:18, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
Apologies for not getting back to you sooner on this topic, and for letting me know that our previous discussion had been archived. Things have been busy here, and I wanted to be able to take the time to discuss the issues in depth with Sassy before moving forward.
Sassy and I are both very grateful for the time that you have spent on this and the amendments that you have already made, which go some way to improve her personal security. However, we would like to investigate further the options for removing the name "Porter" from the page, as our preference would be to not include her last name in the Wikipedia page at all, since this does continue to expose her to some level of risk. I know that there are some references on the internet to the name "Porter", but in practice everyone in her industry always refers to her as DJ Sassy (or DJ Sassy P or DJ Sassy Pandez), so I don't believe that including her real name adds any particular value. If you could possibly seek additional feedback on this from other editors I think that would be useful, and then we can decide on the best way forward from there.
I have gone through my list of website links that can be used as references in support of the content of the page, and have found a few that I believe would be useful. But let's sort out the issue of the name first, and then we can follow this up.
Thanks in advance for your help. AquilaUK ( talk) 13:48, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
I'd like a copy of my (speedily) deleted article, the title of which is Silenize. I'd appreciate it if you'd help me.
Legionstrong ( talk) 13:35, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Would you mind if i used the template as the basis of mine? i would (of course) give you due credit. thanks! Ironho lds 15:41, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
No problem. Squamate ( talk) 00:30, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Moonriddengirl, I'm coming to you with a problem, since you did such a great job with the last one I had (with Grant Alpaugh, as you may remember) :-) JonBroxton came to me with a situation about a particular soccer player's wiki page, Jamie Watson (soccer). This player currently plays for a minor league squad ( Austin Aztex U23), but someone with an anonymous IP continues to delete any evidence of his existence on the team, even though multiple sources have been confirmed ( [5], [6], [7]). Could you help us out on this one, please? -- Otav347 ( talk) 02:24, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Extensive discussion of CSD is a bit off-topic for the RFA page. Still, your response surprises me. I'd assumed it was widely accepted (if not explicitly codified) that admins should exercise some judgment with CSDs. If you try to take them at their exact literal face value, you run into all kind of paradoxes and silliness. Garage band albums certainly can be deleted, just like an article for the band itself. The written CSDs lag behind actual practice. I don't personally see a good reason to try to keep them up to date- I'd rather call them historical and pay no further attention to them. One thing that is relevant to RFA- certainly it's good for a new admin to play things more or less "by the book" at first while they're getting comfortable. One they know better what they're doing, they will tend to use discretion more. This, as far as I know, is uncontroversial. I've been doing deletions that way for a year or two and I can't remember anyone ever having any reasonable objection. Friday (talk) 18:04, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
<-- I suspect we're closer together on deletion issues than we sound. The main reason I don't bother spending time to try to get the CSDs to match what people really do, is that this process is quite tedious and unlikely to succeed. You can scarcely change policy formally these days. Besides, the real policies and guidelines aren't what's written on some page somewhere. They're what exist in the minds of clueful editors everywhere. It's true that there are some legitimate differences of opinion on what belongs- so, any sensible admin won't tend to speedy cases like that. They'll speedy the things that obviously don't belong. I remember back when the "no assertion of significance" criteria referred only to people and not to groups. Well, "Billy and Jimmy are the two coolest kids in the world" is clearly speediable. This was true even before the CSD was updated to include groups. Sure, it's good that someone took the time to update the CSD, but I sure hope they didn't spend much time on it. I'm way more interested in what actually works than what's written on some policy page somewhere.
If someone objects to one of my deletions for some legitimate reason, I'll certainly listen (and probably undelete if this is what's best for our content.) But if someone just says "This does not exactly match this specific criterion", well.. I'll never find that a compelling reason. We can simplify and achieve better results by always thinking in terms of "how does this make Wikipedia better or worse?" instead of "What does section 3, paragraph 12 say?" If I'd been strictly following existing rules back a year or so ago, I would never have speedied a bunch of "Billy and Jimmy are two cool kids.." articles. But I did delete them, and Wikipedia is better off because of it. I did it because I knew any sensible editor would agree that the 'pedia was better off without that stuff. I don't need to worry about what WP:CSD says at the moment, as long as I follow this simple principle. Friday (talk) 20:50, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
I note that you removed a "duplicate" warning from User talk:Mglawyers. Take a look at this edit. I'll leave any action up to you. Thanks. Delicious carbuncle ( talk) 15:33, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Hey! Do you see anything in those comments other than the votes themselves? Gwen Gale ( talk) 22:39, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Hello, I wonder if you could take a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sara Goldrick-Rab. It seems that the consensus was Delete, but the article still exists. Could you delete it based on the previous AfD and CSD, or should I relist? Regards— G716 < T· C> 01:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Hello Miss Moonridengirl, I've noticed that you've removed the Speedy deletion tag in this article. So what will happen to that article now, if it seems that the original article it was splitted from doesn't cite any sources or such? Also, the contributor of those text doesn't seem to take note of it either. Thanks Logicartery ( talk) 14:01, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Moonriddengirl. I strongly oppose the term "cooling denier" to be transwikied to the Wiktionary. Also I propose the the article Cooling denier to be speedy deleted. The User Kauffner has disrupted the Global Warming talk page multiple times yesterday. He was reverted three times by a different person each (2 of them being admins). I tried to leave a message on his talk page to explain why his post was not helpful to the improvement of the article and was removed. So did another admin. Afterwords he started deleting other peoples entries from the Global Warming talk page. His behavious is more than disruptive. Now, he has decided to create the article 'cooling deniers' for which there is no scientific base. Even the website he cites is not using this term, which seems to be made up by him. Therefore I deleted the template to transwiki the term. Is there something else that needs to be done? Thanks Splette :) How's my driving? 13:52, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Just curious as to how the article asserts notability now. Admittedly I'm a bit narked that the author removed the original speedy tag himself and made no attempt to discuss on the article's talk page but, I'm also trying to learn as I go what counts as a "proper" assertion of notability. Also I'd think the author removing the speedy tag sort of means that the deletion of the article is contested and therefore not a PRODable article or have I misunderstood that as well? Thanks. Jasynnash2 ( talk) 14:37, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
An article that you have been involved in editing, Rubén Serrano, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rubén Serrano. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Deor ( talk) 19:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
If a page is tagged by CorenSearchBot, should I tag it with csd g12 if the link the bot gives checks out? I haven't been, but I've seen some people do it. J.delanoy gabs analyze 02:54, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Our grumpy friend from the thread above will soon find his google search back to the old familiar. Your talk page ranks up there, but the next archive round of your page will take care of it. DLP's wiki-page was still showing up on the 2nd page of google, but I've expunged his name from various spam reporting and COI archives, the cross-links are gone, everything will be good. There is a strong temptation to shout DUDE, you registered your name on the world's 6th most-popular website and made an article about yourself, what did you THINK would happen? But, we're here to serve :) Since Mr. D.L. P. has not been forthcoming with reliable information to help us create an article, I consider our responsibilities here to be fully discharged. Plus ten bonus points! Franamax ( talk) 05:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi again. I'm bringing this here further to the above conversation we had about another article by the same author. I'm tempted to tag this for deletion but, am aware it may appear like I have some sort of vendetta or something against the author. Could you have a look and feed me back your opinion. Thanks. Jasynnash2 ( talk) 12:57, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I'd like to add a screenshot of the video game Close Combat First to Fight to the page, because I saw a reccomendation there to do so...
But I'm not exactly sure how to do this... A good way to describe my wiki skills: Abysmal.
Would appreciate any help,
thanks,
Gladiator 2 Contact 09:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
My wikiskills are good in some areas, but my ability to do screenshots is so not. :D I started looking for information related to your question at the video games wikiproject, which led me to
Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Video Game Images. It gives some specific steps about what to do on the Wikipedia end. There's more information at
Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Article_guidelines#Screenshots_and_cover_art. Also of potential use to you here is
Wikipedia:Picture tutorial. Beyond pointing those out, though, I'm afraid I may not be much use. I have no idea how to capture a screenshot. If those links don't help you, you probably could get feedback at
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Video Game Images. If none of that is helpful, please let me know, and I will try to track down somebody who may be more savvy about this than I am. --
Moonriddengirl
(talk) 17:01, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks,
Gladiator 2 Contact 12:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC) 13:16, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the message. I couldn't work out whether I was just missing the category. Thanks for letting me know. Ged UK ( talk) 19:28, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Go ahead and bundle them, they should have the same level of lack of notability. Corvus cornix talk 20:24, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
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Thank you! Always willing to help out an article if I can. :) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)