Thank you for your contributions, you seem to be off to a good start. Hopefully you will soon join the vast army of Wikipediholics! If you need help on how to title new articles see the naming conventions, and for help on formatting the pages visit the manual of style. For general questions goto Wikipedia:Help or the ( FAQ, if you can't find your answer there check the Village Pump (for Wikipedia related questions) or the Reference Desk (for general questions)! There's still more help at the Tutorial and Policy Library. Plus, don't forget to visit the Community Portal. If you have any more questions after that, feel free to ask me directly on my user talk page.
Here's some extra tips to help you get around in the 'pedia!
You can find me at my
user page or
talk page for any questions. Happy editing, and we'll see ya 'round.
Jo e I 11:06, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Is it possible for you to monitor the Urban Exploration page for NPOV edits? I just did a cleanup after two new users revised the page to be biased, and want further standing and backup on this. Thanks! Seicer 19:53, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Just a moment now. Unsourced criticism is unsourced criticm. Which means it either needs to be removed, or tagged as such. I was merely giving the benefit of the doubt. -- InShaneee 02:20, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
In my almost four years on wikipedia, I've had too many long, tedious, boring, annoying edit wars over paranormal articles, and have sworn off them. I'm too old to debate Iridology and cosmotheism, to cite a couple, any more ... I fear EVP, which I stumbled into by accident and couldn't help myself tweaking, might be the same, so I fear I won't be helping your struggle. - DavidWBrooks 00:24, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I made a temp-page for the EVP rewrite. Thoughts on my organization? --- J.S ( t| c) 00:17, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Intresting, thanks for letting me know. I had no idea about all that. — e. ripley\ talk 19:56, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
For your info, if you weren't already aware of this paper: Failure to Replicate Electronic Voice Phenomenon, Barušs, I. Regards, -- BillC 01:10, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
More: Turn Me On, Dead Man: Shermer on audio pareidolia in Scientific American. text. -- BillC 01:15, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
I was wrong to delete Hammarlund I've recreated with a country. Since your message followed his, I attach a copy of a message to Donahue 2. Sorry for delay in response, I've been off line for more than 24 hours.
The text I deleted follows this note, with a deactivated db-bio template. I should point out that I was the fifth admin to delete this article, so I don't think I'm way out of line.
I always fill in the edit summary when I delete, unless there is a speedy template already there, where repetition is pointless. The vast majority of what I delete is either already listed as a speedy, is obvious junk, or a clear breach of guidelines like a blatant advertisement. I tend to NP patrol, which is why deletion is often soon after creation - creators presumably save their text when they are ready for it to be edited by others.
I fix articles or contact if I feel it appropriate. Of course I make mistakes, but whoo doesn't? Best of luck with the article. I've unprotected and deleted to allow yet another recreation of this five-times deleted nonsense (sorry if that is disrespectful). The text I deleted follows:
{{db:bio}} the angry nintendo nerd is a guy who makes videos trashing very bad nintendo games.
Jimfbleak. talk. 07:40, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
I tried to suggest that the other authors find an alternative image, but the best they could come up with was Tom Butler's image of some alleged EVP. While closer to something that rises to the standards required by Wikipedia, the image still defies common standards of WP:V and [{WP:RS]]. What we need is a published image of an EVP sountrack. I am skeptical that such a thing exists at all. That's fine, though, because I'm sure there are other images that we can find to use in the article. -- ScienceApologist 02:14, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Be bold and list them all for AFD already! :P— Ryūlóng ( 竜龍) 19:10, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
I understand where you got the information, but that's no reason to comment on the contributor. Sorry if I came on a bit strong, but I like to nip these things in the bud. To me, comments like the one you made are generally just meant to discredit an editor - which I don't think you meant to do, but I am always careful... :) Thanks for your honest and kind reply. Dreadlocke ☥ 21:16, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
I was not aware of mediumship until you linked to it on my talkpage. -- ScienceApologist 09:06, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi LuckyLouie, I wrote a response to your post on Steel359's page: User_talk:Steel359#Deleted_Article:_AGHOST_.28acronym.29. Please read it and let me know what you think. I believe you've made some incorrect assumptions, and I'd like a chance to talk to you about it. Thanks. Obsid 05:44, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
I can have a try, the problem is finding a WP:V that everybody will accept.
I only have the very first part of his paper in Journal of the Society for Psychical Research, so I can't describe all of his experiment, but it would certainly help the article to expand this section.
Expect everybody's favorite skeptic to criticize it though.
perfectblue 20:18, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
I've expanded the MacRae section a bit, but in order to avoid disputes, I've left it bare of some of the more contentious details. It's a little dry, but hopefully it should be sufficiently detailed to give an overview.
perfectblue 11:00, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Its the worst article i've seen on wiki in a long time and yet i know it will be a strugle to get it deleted ( Gnevin 00:59, 28 January 2007 (UTC))
Thank you for adding the attribution to Smyth, Bayless and Raudive in the opening definition, and AA-EVP in the following paragraph. I appreciate your cooperation, and hope you don't view it as a concession. My concern is that an UNattributed definition is perceived as "Wikipedia defines EVP as...". Again, thank you, and although we often differ, I hope this article can become more of a collaboration and less of a battleground. --- LuckyLouie 01:17, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm fine with most of the summary, the only problems that I have are with "some say" and the specific naming of AA-EVP.
Largely, "some say" just grates with me. Its a personal dislike of the phrase more than anything else, it just seems too weak. I'd prefer something stronger like "Hypothesis include", but I guess that I can live with it for the sake of consensus.
My main concern though is that naming the AA-EVP ties the description to an individual group, which means that it can be disputed based on that group rather than on the description itself. I'd feel more comfortable if we used a general attribution to the paranormal community who believe many things, rather than to a group who believe a specific thing, or if we used somebody well known like Clark as a reference.
Again, I can live with your version and will sign up to it if you can get sufficient others to do so in order to outweigh the nameless ones who keep putting POV pushing "Not verified by pier review" etc in.
Peace.
perfectblue 08:56, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
I know that it's nit-picking, but "many in the ..." is just another variation on "some say". I'd prefer a simple "EVP is defined as", and then a citation.
I've got two reasons for this. Firstly you're saying as little as possible about who actually uses this definition and how many/few they are (fewer directions for attack) and secondly, When serious scientists look at EVP (many do, if only as a curiosity or a pseudo scientist, rather than as a belief in it being real), they also use this definition.
perfectblue 16:32, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
The summary you sent over to me looks far better than what we have had on the article. I'm happy to support it. Maybe now we can get on with the rest of the article? Hopefully we won't spend as long arguing over minor points though. :) -- Zoe.R 21:42, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, LuckyLouie, but I cannot support the lead version you outlined for the following reasons:
I will change the lead to a version that addresses these points. I do think it is possible to come to a version that everybody agrees on, but this version panders way to much to the paranormal believers.
Thanks,-- ScienceApologist 00:39, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
It seems now that at least two other editors on EVP are trying to claim that your conversations with them on their user talk pages established some sort of "consensus" that now insures them against needing to discuss my points on the talkpage. I think the lesson in all this is that it's probably best to do things above the table and establish consensus on the Talk page of the article rather than going around to user talkpages. A clarification from you on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Right now there are two voices on the Talk:Electronic voice phenomenon that are adamant that there isn't consensus. If we could add you as a third at least the break-down would be 50/50 and we can force these editors to come to the table. -- ScienceApologist 13:15, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Hello, Very specifically, the two main problems are:
There is more--the whole general tone of the article is very slanted towards the paranormal POV. Sources which are reliable only to show what an extreme minority thinks are given equal or greater weight than science, which is a distortion.- MsHyde 19:51, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the background. I took a quick look at the history, and saw that there had been some conflict. If I can help with editing the page or offering an outside opinion on any parts, let me know. :) -- El on ka 17:49, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Here's a first attempt at wording for the intro, there's plenty of room for improvement, but I think it includes the important points and prioritizes the opinions. Let me know what you think:
-- Milo H Minderbinder 21:39, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I think you're thinking of someone else, I never email other wikipedia folks. Cheers. -- Milo H Minderbinder 13:40, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
I see exactly what you mean, its a strange approach but I suppose they are humans, with their lives and beliefs that contribute to this, its just up to a majority to temper their passion. Belbo Casaubon 00:36, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Yeah sorry Louie. I didn't notice that your changes were to another section and was just about to reinsert them myslef. Davkal 23:31, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS. PLEASE STOP ATTCKING ME ON THE EVP DISCUSSION PAGE AND ON MY TALK PAGE. COMMENT ON CONTENT - NOT ON THE CONTRIBUTOR. Davkal 11:40, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
The section that I tagged at List of pseudosciences and pseudoscientific concepts does not adhere to Wikipedia requirements for attribution/ citation. The one claim that does have such a reference, Ghost hunting was commented out. Each individual assertion, particularly on controversial topics such as this, should have specific references -- not general claims of "I got them from some book".-- Leflyman Talk 19:31, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Nice link. Anyway, the Controversy in parapsychology is only partially my work. It was on the main Parapsychology page for quite a while so that others could take a whack at it, which they did, adding some things (I'm not sure how many). You're right: I didn't understand that the format wouldn't stand in Wikipedia. However, you'll notice I've stayed away from editing it during reformation. Martinphi ( Talk Ψ Contribs) 05:23, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your comment regarding removal of this term from the EVP intro. It was indeed my contribution, and it's nice to know that it wasn't just cut without being given some thought. If it isn't notable (outside the specialised circle of EVP enthusiasts) - and from what you say, it doesn't seem to be - then I have no objection to cutting it, or moving it. SheffieldSteel 21:02, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your comment. I have followed up there. ⇔ ChristTrekker 21:13, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
What happened to the current one we were discussing, it has disappeared and I cannot find the archive?? Shot info 04:37, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I just wanted to let you know, a case has been requested at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Paranormal. Feel free to add yourself as an involved party, otherwise participate, or follow along if you're interested in it. -- Minderbinder 14:20, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Hello,
An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Paranormal. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Paranormal/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Paranormal/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Thatcher131 01:19, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. In the future, it is recommended that you use the preview button before you save; this helps you find any errors you have made, and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history. Thank you. Ward3001 17:09, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
I believe you should include User:Dreadlocke into your arbitration and evidence. His edits are very similar to those of the other people involved in the Arb-com and I would hate to see his long history of POV and quarrelsome editing go unnoticed due to his not having edited for a few weeks. Wikidudeman (talk) 08:02, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
![]() |
The Original Barnstar | |
I'm going to award you this Original Barnstar . You deserve it. Wikidudeman (talk) 21:37, 26 April 2007 (UTC) |
As with most compromises, not great but acceptable. Let's hope the others will leave it as it is. Thanks. Ward3001 02:19, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the Barnstar. Can you help me with something? Can you keep an eye on the Bodybuilding article? Someone keeps removing an image from the article which has been justified for being there. Their reasoning is baseless and personal and I don't want to break any 3rr rules. I justified it's existence on the talk page many times and it's the only copyright free viable and quality image that exists at present. Can you restore the image and revert their edits? Thanks. Wikidudeman (talk) 04:18, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
You might want to be in on the merge debate between Controversy in parapsychology into Parapsychology. Nealparr and Martinphi keep trying to use a merge as excuse to delete legit criticisms found in the Controversy article, besides that the main article is big already per WP:SIZE. VanTucky 20:41, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Your input is needed at the Parapsychology talk discussion concerning my new draft. Tell me if you have any other objections to it. Add them on the talk page. Thanks. Wikidudeman (talk) 04:16, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
How dare you call me a sock puppet. I have never done anything of that sort. If you want to be sure, run a checkuser on me or whatever it is on me.
Also, don't insult my spelling skills, that is a violation of WP:NPA Science Solider 15:50, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
![]() |
The Paranormal Barnstar | |
This Barnstar is hereby awarded for your assistance in bringing the parapsychology article to Good Article status. Nealparr 04:27, 20 July 2007 (UTC) |
Good is great! -- Nealparr ( talk to me) 18:28, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
Hey, I'm doing a rewrite of the homeopathy article and thought you would be interested to contribute. Same rules as with the parapsychology rewrite, add all proposed edits to the talk page. Here's the link User:Wikidudeman/Homeopathdraft. Thanks. Wikidudeman (talk) 06:13, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
The above titled Arbitration Case has closed and the decision has been published at the linked location. Dradin ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and any other editor who is involved professionally or avocationally in the paranormal is cautioned regarding aggressive editing of articles which relate to the particular subjects they are involved with. Kazuba ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is cautioned to extend good faith to Dradin if he edits and to avoid including disparaging material about Dean Radin on his user page. For the Arbitration Committee, Thatcher131 03:18, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Hey, I noticed you were a frequent contributor to the Electronic voice phenomenon article and I thought I'd let you know that I'm proposing a rewrite project for the article. I thought you might be interested in contributing to it. Currently the article seems to have numerous dispute problems including POV issues and I thought I could get it to at least a Good Article. You can see my proposal on it's talk page here Talk:Electronic voice phenomenon. There are a few questions I'd like you to answer first though. If you have any questions about it you can leave me a message. Thanks. Wikidudeman (talk) 00:52, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Attribution had been given on a previous edit ... to which an editor insisted it not be included, so it was removed. If you insist on attribution be given feel free to add it back in but I have little doubt it will be censored once again. The comment itself is neutral so shouldn't pose a threat to believers of the paranormal or strong skeptics. There does seem to be some dilemma in posting here - whilst there are some links and citations to sources which are permitted without objection, some which are completely relevant are not permitted (despite being considered necessary by other editors and myself). 220.253.45.202 23:54, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Comments on new version of EVP intro? Martinphi ( Talk Ψ Contribs) 23:43, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
![]() |
The Paranormal Barnstar | |
I'm awarding you this barnstar for your having worked hard to help me get Parapsychology to FA status. Congratulations. Wikidudeman (talk) 21:20, 11 September 2007 (UTC) |
I'm inviting you to offer your perspective on each section as we've set it up in talk. I appreciated your previous observations. Right now we are working on the lead or opening. My thoughts are to bring consensus for the article top - down (starting with the opening as that sumarizes the article and topic). -- Northmeister 13:05, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
WP:DISAMBIG Wikidudeman (talk) 15:50, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I suffer from lamp post syndrome every day to every second day I will be within a few metres of a post and it will turn off until I have passed it... I have also had a lightbulb explode above my head when I walked under it..
Just curious to know who I could contact to discuss this bizarre interference. Thanks
Your input would be appreciated: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Martinphi ScienceApologist 21:38, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Hello,
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Martinphi-ScienceApologist. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Martinphi-ScienceApologist/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Martinphi-ScienceApologist/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, David Mestel( Talk) 15:09, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi, pertaining to your recent edit. If you concur with the edit, I'd ask you to revert yourself. If you do not, then I'll accept the revert as an expression of disapproval - and we can work from that. (I do like the change you made regarding 'certain' however). Otherwise, I don't really understand your reasoning behind reverting the change, as it does not relate to my concerns about the rest of the paragragh - which are with wording and coherence. -- Northmeister 00:54, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
This arbitration case has now closed, and the decision may be found at the link above. Martinphi and ScienceApologist are subect to an editing restriction for one year, and ScienceApologist is limited to one account. For the arbitration committee, David Mestel( Talk) 18:06, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
hi lucky I'v been looking for a guy like you, into wwII radios. I'd hate to have to enter all 800 of em, but I would like at least a basic chain of command.
IE handie talkie, walkie talkie, mulie talkie, tankie talkie ect. been working on a vehicle K-list on another site, if you know of any I missed? are you on the g-503 radio section?
Brian in denver (
talk)
20:07, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
The Arbitration Committee has rendered decisions passing a motion to apply discretionary sanctions remedies to the case linked above. Any uninvolved administrator may, on his or her own discretion, impose sanctions on any editor working in the area of conflict ("articles which relate to pseudoscience, broadly interpreted") if, despite being warned, that editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process.
The final text of the motions can be found at the case page linked above.
— Coren (talk) for the Arbitration Committee, 14:50, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
An article that you have been involved in editing, Central Jersey Paranormal Research Association, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Central Jersey Paranormal Research Association. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Groupsisxty ( talk) 14:59, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you Peter Damian ( talk) 14:52, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello, we have added reliable sources to the "External links" section of the Ghostly Talk article. We have also put our full names on the page. I would like to note that we were approached by Northmeister ( talk} who stated that Ghostly Talk was notable enough to have an article on Wikipedia. Check the logs. I also have the original emails from 2006 when he created the article here. I hope this covers the issue though. Thank You, it was a chance to add some more info to the article Gtscottl ( talk 23:11, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank You for all the help on the Ghostly Talk page. :) Gtscottl ( talk 23:11, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
I would like to point out that I am not the author of this article Louie. I thought that was clear. I have taken part in adding and deleting information from the article per the author's instructions when the article was created 2 years ago. I have also been taking an active role in improving the article to meet your standards. I really do not need "free hosting for public relations copy promoting my internet radio show". Regardless of being slightly disturbed by what looks like an accusation from you that the Ghostly Talk article is nothing more than a PR tool, I really appreciate your help over the last few days, I have learned a lot!! :) Gtscottl 07:50, 22 February 2009 (ET)
Hi there, thanks for the message explaining. I think the stories in Ghost Stations as with all these types of books are always going to be argued. But it's the same for religion, though the Paranormal for some could be classed as a religion in itself. I'm not a die-hard (so you have no fear of vengeance etc as I know some are very passionate about this), but I am someone who believes there is something there; it just needs further investigation. I do see your point though. Take care. SteveKSmith ( talk) 12:31, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi again, LuckyLouie. A quick newbie question, if you don't mind:
I added some other ham radio companies' articles to the "See also" sections of the Drake and Collins pages last week. But it can be argued that they don't really relate to Drake or Collins directly - they're just other companies that make ham equipment. I started thinking about this after another editor removed a similar list I had added to the Heathkit article. I think he's right. Do you have an opinion? I'm thinking I ought to trim back the lists in the Drake and Collins articles too. Thanks. RadiomanPA ( talk) 03:48, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Re. your comment: Please stop removing the references from the Strain Insulator article. - LuckyLouie ( talk) 22:27, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Replied. ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 00:03, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
from what it says, u redirected my jagedpanther II page!I am very tired of people like you! Don't do it again OR SUFFER!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kingtiger101 ( talk • contribs) 23:55, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
![]() |
The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar |
Thank you for your significant contributions to Wikipedia, specifically in the area of conspiracy-related topics. –– FORMALDUDE( talk) 05:18, 23 July 2021 (UTC) |
Thank you for your contributions, you seem to be off to a good start. Hopefully you will soon join the vast army of Wikipediholics! If you need help on how to title new articles see the naming conventions, and for help on formatting the pages visit the manual of style. For general questions goto Wikipedia:Help or the ( FAQ, if you can't find your answer there check the Village Pump (for Wikipedia related questions) or the Reference Desk (for general questions)! There's still more help at the Tutorial and Policy Library. Plus, don't forget to visit the Community Portal. If you have any more questions after that, feel free to ask me directly on my user talk page.
Here's some extra tips to help you get around in the 'pedia!
You can find me at my
user page or
talk page for any questions. Happy editing, and we'll see ya 'round.
Jo e I 11:06, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Is it possible for you to monitor the Urban Exploration page for NPOV edits? I just did a cleanup after two new users revised the page to be biased, and want further standing and backup on this. Thanks! Seicer 19:53, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Just a moment now. Unsourced criticism is unsourced criticm. Which means it either needs to be removed, or tagged as such. I was merely giving the benefit of the doubt. -- InShaneee 02:20, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
In my almost four years on wikipedia, I've had too many long, tedious, boring, annoying edit wars over paranormal articles, and have sworn off them. I'm too old to debate Iridology and cosmotheism, to cite a couple, any more ... I fear EVP, which I stumbled into by accident and couldn't help myself tweaking, might be the same, so I fear I won't be helping your struggle. - DavidWBrooks 00:24, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I made a temp-page for the EVP rewrite. Thoughts on my organization? --- J.S ( t| c) 00:17, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Intresting, thanks for letting me know. I had no idea about all that. — e. ripley\ talk 19:56, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
For your info, if you weren't already aware of this paper: Failure to Replicate Electronic Voice Phenomenon, Barušs, I. Regards, -- BillC 01:10, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
More: Turn Me On, Dead Man: Shermer on audio pareidolia in Scientific American. text. -- BillC 01:15, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
I was wrong to delete Hammarlund I've recreated with a country. Since your message followed his, I attach a copy of a message to Donahue 2. Sorry for delay in response, I've been off line for more than 24 hours.
The text I deleted follows this note, with a deactivated db-bio template. I should point out that I was the fifth admin to delete this article, so I don't think I'm way out of line.
I always fill in the edit summary when I delete, unless there is a speedy template already there, where repetition is pointless. The vast majority of what I delete is either already listed as a speedy, is obvious junk, or a clear breach of guidelines like a blatant advertisement. I tend to NP patrol, which is why deletion is often soon after creation - creators presumably save their text when they are ready for it to be edited by others.
I fix articles or contact if I feel it appropriate. Of course I make mistakes, but whoo doesn't? Best of luck with the article. I've unprotected and deleted to allow yet another recreation of this five-times deleted nonsense (sorry if that is disrespectful). The text I deleted follows:
{{db:bio}} the angry nintendo nerd is a guy who makes videos trashing very bad nintendo games.
Jimfbleak. talk. 07:40, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
I tried to suggest that the other authors find an alternative image, but the best they could come up with was Tom Butler's image of some alleged EVP. While closer to something that rises to the standards required by Wikipedia, the image still defies common standards of WP:V and [{WP:RS]]. What we need is a published image of an EVP sountrack. I am skeptical that such a thing exists at all. That's fine, though, because I'm sure there are other images that we can find to use in the article. -- ScienceApologist 02:14, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Be bold and list them all for AFD already! :P— Ryūlóng ( 竜龍) 19:10, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
I understand where you got the information, but that's no reason to comment on the contributor. Sorry if I came on a bit strong, but I like to nip these things in the bud. To me, comments like the one you made are generally just meant to discredit an editor - which I don't think you meant to do, but I am always careful... :) Thanks for your honest and kind reply. Dreadlocke ☥ 21:16, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
I was not aware of mediumship until you linked to it on my talkpage. -- ScienceApologist 09:06, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi LuckyLouie, I wrote a response to your post on Steel359's page: User_talk:Steel359#Deleted_Article:_AGHOST_.28acronym.29. Please read it and let me know what you think. I believe you've made some incorrect assumptions, and I'd like a chance to talk to you about it. Thanks. Obsid 05:44, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
I can have a try, the problem is finding a WP:V that everybody will accept.
I only have the very first part of his paper in Journal of the Society for Psychical Research, so I can't describe all of his experiment, but it would certainly help the article to expand this section.
Expect everybody's favorite skeptic to criticize it though.
perfectblue 20:18, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
I've expanded the MacRae section a bit, but in order to avoid disputes, I've left it bare of some of the more contentious details. It's a little dry, but hopefully it should be sufficiently detailed to give an overview.
perfectblue 11:00, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Its the worst article i've seen on wiki in a long time and yet i know it will be a strugle to get it deleted ( Gnevin 00:59, 28 January 2007 (UTC))
Thank you for adding the attribution to Smyth, Bayless and Raudive in the opening definition, and AA-EVP in the following paragraph. I appreciate your cooperation, and hope you don't view it as a concession. My concern is that an UNattributed definition is perceived as "Wikipedia defines EVP as...". Again, thank you, and although we often differ, I hope this article can become more of a collaboration and less of a battleground. --- LuckyLouie 01:17, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm fine with most of the summary, the only problems that I have are with "some say" and the specific naming of AA-EVP.
Largely, "some say" just grates with me. Its a personal dislike of the phrase more than anything else, it just seems too weak. I'd prefer something stronger like "Hypothesis include", but I guess that I can live with it for the sake of consensus.
My main concern though is that naming the AA-EVP ties the description to an individual group, which means that it can be disputed based on that group rather than on the description itself. I'd feel more comfortable if we used a general attribution to the paranormal community who believe many things, rather than to a group who believe a specific thing, or if we used somebody well known like Clark as a reference.
Again, I can live with your version and will sign up to it if you can get sufficient others to do so in order to outweigh the nameless ones who keep putting POV pushing "Not verified by pier review" etc in.
Peace.
perfectblue 08:56, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
I know that it's nit-picking, but "many in the ..." is just another variation on "some say". I'd prefer a simple "EVP is defined as", and then a citation.
I've got two reasons for this. Firstly you're saying as little as possible about who actually uses this definition and how many/few they are (fewer directions for attack) and secondly, When serious scientists look at EVP (many do, if only as a curiosity or a pseudo scientist, rather than as a belief in it being real), they also use this definition.
perfectblue 16:32, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
The summary you sent over to me looks far better than what we have had on the article. I'm happy to support it. Maybe now we can get on with the rest of the article? Hopefully we won't spend as long arguing over minor points though. :) -- Zoe.R 21:42, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, LuckyLouie, but I cannot support the lead version you outlined for the following reasons:
I will change the lead to a version that addresses these points. I do think it is possible to come to a version that everybody agrees on, but this version panders way to much to the paranormal believers.
Thanks,-- ScienceApologist 00:39, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
It seems now that at least two other editors on EVP are trying to claim that your conversations with them on their user talk pages established some sort of "consensus" that now insures them against needing to discuss my points on the talkpage. I think the lesson in all this is that it's probably best to do things above the table and establish consensus on the Talk page of the article rather than going around to user talkpages. A clarification from you on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Right now there are two voices on the Talk:Electronic voice phenomenon that are adamant that there isn't consensus. If we could add you as a third at least the break-down would be 50/50 and we can force these editors to come to the table. -- ScienceApologist 13:15, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Hello, Very specifically, the two main problems are:
There is more--the whole general tone of the article is very slanted towards the paranormal POV. Sources which are reliable only to show what an extreme minority thinks are given equal or greater weight than science, which is a distortion.- MsHyde 19:51, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the background. I took a quick look at the history, and saw that there had been some conflict. If I can help with editing the page or offering an outside opinion on any parts, let me know. :) -- El on ka 17:49, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Here's a first attempt at wording for the intro, there's plenty of room for improvement, but I think it includes the important points and prioritizes the opinions. Let me know what you think:
-- Milo H Minderbinder 21:39, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I think you're thinking of someone else, I never email other wikipedia folks. Cheers. -- Milo H Minderbinder 13:40, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
I see exactly what you mean, its a strange approach but I suppose they are humans, with their lives and beliefs that contribute to this, its just up to a majority to temper their passion. Belbo Casaubon 00:36, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Yeah sorry Louie. I didn't notice that your changes were to another section and was just about to reinsert them myslef. Davkal 23:31, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS. PLEASE STOP ATTCKING ME ON THE EVP DISCUSSION PAGE AND ON MY TALK PAGE. COMMENT ON CONTENT - NOT ON THE CONTRIBUTOR. Davkal 11:40, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
The section that I tagged at List of pseudosciences and pseudoscientific concepts does not adhere to Wikipedia requirements for attribution/ citation. The one claim that does have such a reference, Ghost hunting was commented out. Each individual assertion, particularly on controversial topics such as this, should have specific references -- not general claims of "I got them from some book".-- Leflyman Talk 19:31, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Nice link. Anyway, the Controversy in parapsychology is only partially my work. It was on the main Parapsychology page for quite a while so that others could take a whack at it, which they did, adding some things (I'm not sure how many). You're right: I didn't understand that the format wouldn't stand in Wikipedia. However, you'll notice I've stayed away from editing it during reformation. Martinphi ( Talk Ψ Contribs) 05:23, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your comment regarding removal of this term from the EVP intro. It was indeed my contribution, and it's nice to know that it wasn't just cut without being given some thought. If it isn't notable (outside the specialised circle of EVP enthusiasts) - and from what you say, it doesn't seem to be - then I have no objection to cutting it, or moving it. SheffieldSteel 21:02, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your comment. I have followed up there. ⇔ ChristTrekker 21:13, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
What happened to the current one we were discussing, it has disappeared and I cannot find the archive?? Shot info 04:37, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I just wanted to let you know, a case has been requested at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Paranormal. Feel free to add yourself as an involved party, otherwise participate, or follow along if you're interested in it. -- Minderbinder 14:20, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Hello,
An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Paranormal. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Paranormal/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Paranormal/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Thatcher131 01:19, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. In the future, it is recommended that you use the preview button before you save; this helps you find any errors you have made, and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history. Thank you. Ward3001 17:09, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
I believe you should include User:Dreadlocke into your arbitration and evidence. His edits are very similar to those of the other people involved in the Arb-com and I would hate to see his long history of POV and quarrelsome editing go unnoticed due to his not having edited for a few weeks. Wikidudeman (talk) 08:02, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
![]() |
The Original Barnstar | |
I'm going to award you this Original Barnstar . You deserve it. Wikidudeman (talk) 21:37, 26 April 2007 (UTC) |
As with most compromises, not great but acceptable. Let's hope the others will leave it as it is. Thanks. Ward3001 02:19, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the Barnstar. Can you help me with something? Can you keep an eye on the Bodybuilding article? Someone keeps removing an image from the article which has been justified for being there. Their reasoning is baseless and personal and I don't want to break any 3rr rules. I justified it's existence on the talk page many times and it's the only copyright free viable and quality image that exists at present. Can you restore the image and revert their edits? Thanks. Wikidudeman (talk) 04:18, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
You might want to be in on the merge debate between Controversy in parapsychology into Parapsychology. Nealparr and Martinphi keep trying to use a merge as excuse to delete legit criticisms found in the Controversy article, besides that the main article is big already per WP:SIZE. VanTucky 20:41, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Your input is needed at the Parapsychology talk discussion concerning my new draft. Tell me if you have any other objections to it. Add them on the talk page. Thanks. Wikidudeman (talk) 04:16, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
How dare you call me a sock puppet. I have never done anything of that sort. If you want to be sure, run a checkuser on me or whatever it is on me.
Also, don't insult my spelling skills, that is a violation of WP:NPA Science Solider 15:50, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
![]() |
The Paranormal Barnstar | |
This Barnstar is hereby awarded for your assistance in bringing the parapsychology article to Good Article status. Nealparr 04:27, 20 July 2007 (UTC) |
Good is great! -- Nealparr ( talk to me) 18:28, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
Hey, I'm doing a rewrite of the homeopathy article and thought you would be interested to contribute. Same rules as with the parapsychology rewrite, add all proposed edits to the talk page. Here's the link User:Wikidudeman/Homeopathdraft. Thanks. Wikidudeman (talk) 06:13, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
The above titled Arbitration Case has closed and the decision has been published at the linked location. Dradin ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and any other editor who is involved professionally or avocationally in the paranormal is cautioned regarding aggressive editing of articles which relate to the particular subjects they are involved with. Kazuba ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is cautioned to extend good faith to Dradin if he edits and to avoid including disparaging material about Dean Radin on his user page. For the Arbitration Committee, Thatcher131 03:18, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Hey, I noticed you were a frequent contributor to the Electronic voice phenomenon article and I thought I'd let you know that I'm proposing a rewrite project for the article. I thought you might be interested in contributing to it. Currently the article seems to have numerous dispute problems including POV issues and I thought I could get it to at least a Good Article. You can see my proposal on it's talk page here Talk:Electronic voice phenomenon. There are a few questions I'd like you to answer first though. If you have any questions about it you can leave me a message. Thanks. Wikidudeman (talk) 00:52, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Attribution had been given on a previous edit ... to which an editor insisted it not be included, so it was removed. If you insist on attribution be given feel free to add it back in but I have little doubt it will be censored once again. The comment itself is neutral so shouldn't pose a threat to believers of the paranormal or strong skeptics. There does seem to be some dilemma in posting here - whilst there are some links and citations to sources which are permitted without objection, some which are completely relevant are not permitted (despite being considered necessary by other editors and myself). 220.253.45.202 23:54, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Comments on new version of EVP intro? Martinphi ( Talk Ψ Contribs) 23:43, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
![]() |
The Paranormal Barnstar | |
I'm awarding you this barnstar for your having worked hard to help me get Parapsychology to FA status. Congratulations. Wikidudeman (talk) 21:20, 11 September 2007 (UTC) |
I'm inviting you to offer your perspective on each section as we've set it up in talk. I appreciated your previous observations. Right now we are working on the lead or opening. My thoughts are to bring consensus for the article top - down (starting with the opening as that sumarizes the article and topic). -- Northmeister 13:05, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
WP:DISAMBIG Wikidudeman (talk) 15:50, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I suffer from lamp post syndrome every day to every second day I will be within a few metres of a post and it will turn off until I have passed it... I have also had a lightbulb explode above my head when I walked under it..
Just curious to know who I could contact to discuss this bizarre interference. Thanks
Your input would be appreciated: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Martinphi ScienceApologist 21:38, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Hello,
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Martinphi-ScienceApologist. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Martinphi-ScienceApologist/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Martinphi-ScienceApologist/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, David Mestel( Talk) 15:09, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi, pertaining to your recent edit. If you concur with the edit, I'd ask you to revert yourself. If you do not, then I'll accept the revert as an expression of disapproval - and we can work from that. (I do like the change you made regarding 'certain' however). Otherwise, I don't really understand your reasoning behind reverting the change, as it does not relate to my concerns about the rest of the paragragh - which are with wording and coherence. -- Northmeister 00:54, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
This arbitration case has now closed, and the decision may be found at the link above. Martinphi and ScienceApologist are subect to an editing restriction for one year, and ScienceApologist is limited to one account. For the arbitration committee, David Mestel( Talk) 18:06, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
hi lucky I'v been looking for a guy like you, into wwII radios. I'd hate to have to enter all 800 of em, but I would like at least a basic chain of command.
IE handie talkie, walkie talkie, mulie talkie, tankie talkie ect. been working on a vehicle K-list on another site, if you know of any I missed? are you on the g-503 radio section?
Brian in denver (
talk)
20:07, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
The Arbitration Committee has rendered decisions passing a motion to apply discretionary sanctions remedies to the case linked above. Any uninvolved administrator may, on his or her own discretion, impose sanctions on any editor working in the area of conflict ("articles which relate to pseudoscience, broadly interpreted") if, despite being warned, that editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process.
The final text of the motions can be found at the case page linked above.
— Coren (talk) for the Arbitration Committee, 14:50, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
An article that you have been involved in editing, Central Jersey Paranormal Research Association, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Central Jersey Paranormal Research Association. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Groupsisxty ( talk) 14:59, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you Peter Damian ( talk) 14:52, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello, we have added reliable sources to the "External links" section of the Ghostly Talk article. We have also put our full names on the page. I would like to note that we were approached by Northmeister ( talk} who stated that Ghostly Talk was notable enough to have an article on Wikipedia. Check the logs. I also have the original emails from 2006 when he created the article here. I hope this covers the issue though. Thank You, it was a chance to add some more info to the article Gtscottl ( talk 23:11, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank You for all the help on the Ghostly Talk page. :) Gtscottl ( talk 23:11, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
I would like to point out that I am not the author of this article Louie. I thought that was clear. I have taken part in adding and deleting information from the article per the author's instructions when the article was created 2 years ago. I have also been taking an active role in improving the article to meet your standards. I really do not need "free hosting for public relations copy promoting my internet radio show". Regardless of being slightly disturbed by what looks like an accusation from you that the Ghostly Talk article is nothing more than a PR tool, I really appreciate your help over the last few days, I have learned a lot!! :) Gtscottl 07:50, 22 February 2009 (ET)
Hi there, thanks for the message explaining. I think the stories in Ghost Stations as with all these types of books are always going to be argued. But it's the same for religion, though the Paranormal for some could be classed as a religion in itself. I'm not a die-hard (so you have no fear of vengeance etc as I know some are very passionate about this), but I am someone who believes there is something there; it just needs further investigation. I do see your point though. Take care. SteveKSmith ( talk) 12:31, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi again, LuckyLouie. A quick newbie question, if you don't mind:
I added some other ham radio companies' articles to the "See also" sections of the Drake and Collins pages last week. But it can be argued that they don't really relate to Drake or Collins directly - they're just other companies that make ham equipment. I started thinking about this after another editor removed a similar list I had added to the Heathkit article. I think he's right. Do you have an opinion? I'm thinking I ought to trim back the lists in the Drake and Collins articles too. Thanks. RadiomanPA ( talk) 03:48, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Re. your comment: Please stop removing the references from the Strain Insulator article. - LuckyLouie ( talk) 22:27, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Replied. ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 00:03, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
from what it says, u redirected my jagedpanther II page!I am very tired of people like you! Don't do it again OR SUFFER!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kingtiger101 ( talk • contribs) 23:55, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
![]() |
The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar |
Thank you for your significant contributions to Wikipedia, specifically in the area of conspiracy-related topics. –– FORMALDUDE( talk) 05:18, 23 July 2021 (UTC) |