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[1] Yes, it is scary that I know that. I often feel vaguely worried when I find myself understanding what the heck he is doing...or worse yet, thinking I would do the same thing too. I do recall reading something Durova wrote somewhere about jpeg images degrading through serial saves/uploads, although I don't remember if it is in the same context and I can't remember exactly where - but even if I could find the conversation, I know better than to put the link onto that page.
Incidentally, I did sign up for an account at Wiktionary, but am not quite sure how to go about writing the entry. Do you know of anyone who is a regular contributor there that I might be able to hook up with? I also opened a Commons account to upload an image. My goodness I am getting bold. Risker ( talk) 16:23, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
by any chance can you delete the diffs I accidently added before I realized it was a joke? Yahel Guhan 22:40, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
All 6 accounts of Davenbelle had been blocked indefinitely here on en.wikipedia. Per the commons discussion on Jack Merridew you have commented on, do you think you can run checks to verify? Mind you that commons:User:Moby Dick's entire contribution on commons was wasting community time. There also seems to be activity in meta... You have checkuser access on all 3 wikis (I think) so you are the best candidate dealing with this issue. -- Cat chi? 12:22, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I'll post something here (see User:Lar/Pooh policy ...) ++ Lar: t/ c 19:49, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Hope that helps. ++ Lar: t/ c 02:01, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Refactored to User talk:Wedineinheck per User:Lar/Pooh policy ++ Lar: t/ c 21:58, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
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I'm not an admin. Lawrence § t/ e 20:55, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
with ESCStudent774441 ( talk · contribs). While he's under no obligation to "like" me or anything, I don't think creations like this or messages like this are on the right path... — Scien tizzle 23:04, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, hammers and sickles are tools of a farmer's trade. I used hammers in shop class. Why not?
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talk) 23:40, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi Lar, sorry, was late getting back to the issue regarding my vote back then. I hope/trust you got voted in regardless. Seems a bit silly that some found it necessary to cast aside user's opinions. regards, Icsunonove ( talk) 23:01, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
This is to inform you sir, that I have nominated myself for adminship here at Wikipedia. I serve up this notice as a matter of common courtesy to a fellow user and experienced administrator. Feel free to leave an answer on my page. ESCStudent774441 ( talk) 03:04, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
As to our last conversation, am I correct to assume I am not welcome to start over clean of my past? I'm curious. ESCStudent774441 ( talk) 03:21, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
that I'm going to just *HAVE* to start an article :) </joke> NonvocalScream ( talk) 12:21, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
At the risk of sounding hopelessly cliche, why don't we focus on one step at a time? There's going to be resistance to any change, and complaints both that the proposed changes will go too far and not far enough.
At this point, my objective is "Is this an improvement?" If it generally agreed to be— even if not not enough— it's a good first step and worth doing.
Yes? — Coren (talk) 18:59, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for telling me...provided more reasoning behind my vote. Spencer T♦ C 22:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
As I have indicated on my page, I have decided for sure this time to retire from Wikipedia. Reasons are stated on my talk page. Good luck to you sir. ESCStudent774441 ( talk) 05:20, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Fare thee well. 68.236.154.131 ( talk) 05:48, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Best of luck whereever life may take you. ++ Lar: t/ c 05:50, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
(Refactored to User_talk:Wedineinheck per my policy) ++ Lar: t/ c 14:28, 12 April 2008 (UTC) ( talk) 10:36, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
I would appreciate muchly any views you might have on my comments on Wikipedia_talk:Administrators_open_to_recall#the_language_in_this_article_does_not_discuss_.22recall.22_much I would've changed the article text itself but that seemed a bit cheeky as a newcomer to the page.:) Merkin's mum 12:21, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your support in my RFA, that didn't quite make it and ended at 120/47/13. There was a ton of great advice there, that I'm going to go on. Maybe someday. If not, there are articles to write! Thanks for your support. Lawrence § t/ e 17:39, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Category:Eurasians is down a little under 100 members since I started looking at it. That only covers A-C! Quite an Augean stable really. -- John ( talk) 16:27, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi there Lar; I don't want to get in the way of your editing, but I think you may have made a slight error. I noticed that earlier today you reverted an edit on Hearsay-in-US-law by eveninscrot which was a few days old. I wanted to let you know I reverted again to restore the article to the way it was after his edit. My reason is that Eeveninscrot's edit was correct: the phrase he removed was nonsense. It was discussed heavily on the user page, and I am pretty sure no one with any stake in the matter wants that orphaned half-truth sentence to come back. If you have any concerns with my edit or feel strongly that the removed sentence needs to be brought back, please feel free to post a reply here, or discuss it on the article's talk page. Thanks for your time. Non Curat Lex ( talk) 06:00, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Giano is an extremely articulate man. Also he's an adult, more so than most people here. You seem to be suggesting he's something on the lines of an inept child with "something preventing his direct communication". I suppose you don't realize how offensive that is. Bishonen | talk 15:59, 16 April 2008 (UTC).
I have sent you an email at Wikipedia Commons. -- Gavin Collins ( talk) 21:16, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
For all the pointers. I did download the pdf, I just need to crop out the text from the image for that one (I did it for the other, and one's captured since). Thanks again, Van Tucky 23:35, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
(Refactored to User_talk:OhanaUnited per my policy) ++ Lar: t/ c 22:33, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:MerrittChapman_1938_ad.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use. Suggestions on how to do so can be found here.
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So I thought. Johnbod ( talk) 23:02, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi! Saw your note to me in the close of this AfD. I agree with you, in my ideal world there would never be an article on someone with such beliefs. That's part of why I wasn't willing to spend any time working on it however my comment was going by the letter of WP:BIO saying: A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has been the subject of published[3] secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent,[4] and independent of the subject.[5] I'm thrilled that it's been deleted, but I think he probably is notable per WP:BIO, that was the basis of my comment, which was why it wasn't a !vote either way TRAVELLINGCARI My story Tell me yours 18:43, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Cheers, Daniel ( talk) 00:42, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Something is puzzling me (It's Ok Arbs and IRC relax - inncocent question coming) as I'm a computer illiterate you might be able to enlighten me - today when voting on a RFA for one of those odd reasons the server logged me out and I saw my IP - no problem as I have no secrets, however when I looked at the IP contribs [4] only the top edit is mine. I am sitting her at home, using broadband, and no one else edits from this connection. So my question, if one of those earlier edits had been vandalistic etc, I woul dhave been blocked as sockpuppet - yes? This can't be a unique problem. so what happens in these instances? Giano ( talk) 07:28, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Feeling of deja vu! See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Improper page moves by Husond. Could we clear up the status of that old page and archive or review the sanctions there? Gene Nygaard has been doing good work, and I don't think it is fair to have that page being used against him. Carcharoth ( talk) 12:28, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
So my conscience, am I missing something? - jc37 00:49, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Susanlesch ( talk) 06:22, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Can you make a comment here, I don't ask you to unblock and agree, but your thoughts on the principle would be good. I would like to see him editing the pages he does best, but with some pretty severe restrictions. He has done some bad things in the past, and been banned for a long time now, but he is desperate to edit, and an ongoing ban seems cruel to my mind, but my own solution is not exactly kind either, so hopefully it makes a compromise with those who still want him far gone. Giano ( talk) 10:41, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Giano ( talk) 10:42, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
What is your opinion on this? We seem to end up on opposite sides of discussions pretty often these days, but your opinion is generally very well informed and well thought out - I won't frame this for you in advance, my comments are on AN/I and the bottom of the linked page. Avruch T 16:12, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
My comments, while uncollegial, were also true. I altered my vote per your request. -- Endless Dan 18:25, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
I saw http://www.wikitruth.info/index.php?title=Uncensored:Christopher_Tsai/Logs and so I checked out Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christopher Tsai. Your careful analysis makes "The delete arguments to me outweigh the keeps, there clearly is no consensus to keep. With a non notable or marginally notable BLP, unless the outcome is clearly "keep" we ought to be deleting, not keeping. Therefore, delete." justifiable.
But "With a non notable or marginally notable BLP, unless the outcome is clearly keep we must delete" would be a very bad policy. Since you are pushing for something like what you did to become standard best practice and then written into policy, please help prevent others from eliminating the "careful analysis" part of what you did.
Eventually perhaps we can write something like this into policy: "After careful analysis of the reasons, the standing of the participants, and whether Wikipedia is a better or worse encyclopedia with/without the article; the closing admin may at their discretion delete an article on a non notable or marginally notable living person if a majority or even arguably only half wish to delete." WAS 4.250 ( talk) 13:01, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
If you happen to have a moment of free time, I'd be very interested in your comments on this. Thanks! Kirill ( P) 02:30, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
I recently passed my A Level computing with a Distinction and was wondering if i could be a developer or a steward as i got the highest mark that you can get (100%) I was wondering if i could upload my programme which does the same work as 10 stewards and automatically reviews the requests for admins and the Bureaucrats. Would love the opportunity to use my software on the wiki and would be proud to offer exclusive rights to the wiki organisation.
Yours Sincerly, Chris19910 (talk) 08:13, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Leaving you both the same message Lar closed it as delete, and Sandstein closed as keep without an edit conflict. No further comment since it's clear where I stand on the article. FWIW, I think whichever way it goes, it needs to be clearly explained. TRAVELLINGCARI My story Tell me yours 19:21, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Lar, I hope you're not planning to unilaterally implement "marginal BLPs with no consensus default to delete". That will lead to a major headache at DRVs, and all sorts of drama, given that the community has expressed more than significant opposition to that at
WT:BLP. --
Relata refero (
disp.) 20:09, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
I saw, I followed the discussion. I think that's a good compromise. Thanks for giving me the heads up TRAVELLINGCARI
My story
Tell me yours 20:17, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
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For making a admirable effort to negotiate a complicated situation with another administrator in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hema Sinha (2nd nomination), I hereby award User:Sandstein and User:Lar each half a barnstar for their cooperation. Well done, both of you. Hersfold ( t/ a/ c) 02:43, 30 April 2008 (UTC) |
I recognize that this user page belongs to the Wikipedia project and not to me personally. As such, I recognize that I am expected to respectfully abide by community standards as to the presentation and content of this page, and that if I do not like these guidelines, I am welcome either to engage in reasonable discussion about it, to publish my material elsewhere, or to leave the project.
This is an archive of User talk:Lar from about 1 April 2008 through about 1 May 2008. Please do not comment here, use my current talk page for that, thanks. It is part of a series of archives, see the box at right for the list and to navigate to others. An index to all my talk page archives, automatically maintained by User:HBC Archive Indexerbot can be found at User:Lar/TalkArchiveIndex. |
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[1] Yes, it is scary that I know that. I often feel vaguely worried when I find myself understanding what the heck he is doing...or worse yet, thinking I would do the same thing too. I do recall reading something Durova wrote somewhere about jpeg images degrading through serial saves/uploads, although I don't remember if it is in the same context and I can't remember exactly where - but even if I could find the conversation, I know better than to put the link onto that page.
Incidentally, I did sign up for an account at Wiktionary, but am not quite sure how to go about writing the entry. Do you know of anyone who is a regular contributor there that I might be able to hook up with? I also opened a Commons account to upload an image. My goodness I am getting bold. Risker ( talk) 16:23, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
by any chance can you delete the diffs I accidently added before I realized it was a joke? Yahel Guhan 22:40, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
All 6 accounts of Davenbelle had been blocked indefinitely here on en.wikipedia. Per the commons discussion on Jack Merridew you have commented on, do you think you can run checks to verify? Mind you that commons:User:Moby Dick's entire contribution on commons was wasting community time. There also seems to be activity in meta... You have checkuser access on all 3 wikis (I think) so you are the best candidate dealing with this issue. -- Cat chi? 12:22, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I'll post something here (see User:Lar/Pooh policy ...) ++ Lar: t/ c 19:49, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Hope that helps. ++ Lar: t/ c 02:01, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Refactored to User talk:Wedineinheck per User:Lar/Pooh policy ++ Lar: t/ c 21:58, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
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—Preceding unsigned comment added by The Right Reverend Mark is right ( talk • contribs) 02:35, 4 April 2008
I'm not an admin. Lawrence § t/ e 20:55, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
with ESCStudent774441 ( talk · contribs). While he's under no obligation to "like" me or anything, I don't think creations like this or messages like this are on the right path... — Scien tizzle 23:04, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, hammers and sickles are tools of a farmer's trade. I used hammers in shop class. Why not?
ESCStudent774441 (
talk) 23:40, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi Lar, sorry, was late getting back to the issue regarding my vote back then. I hope/trust you got voted in regardless. Seems a bit silly that some found it necessary to cast aside user's opinions. regards, Icsunonove ( talk) 23:01, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
This is to inform you sir, that I have nominated myself for adminship here at Wikipedia. I serve up this notice as a matter of common courtesy to a fellow user and experienced administrator. Feel free to leave an answer on my page. ESCStudent774441 ( talk) 03:04, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
As to our last conversation, am I correct to assume I am not welcome to start over clean of my past? I'm curious. ESCStudent774441 ( talk) 03:21, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
that I'm going to just *HAVE* to start an article :) </joke> NonvocalScream ( talk) 12:21, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
At the risk of sounding hopelessly cliche, why don't we focus on one step at a time? There's going to be resistance to any change, and complaints both that the proposed changes will go too far and not far enough.
At this point, my objective is "Is this an improvement?" If it generally agreed to be— even if not not enough— it's a good first step and worth doing.
Yes? — Coren (talk) 18:59, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for telling me...provided more reasoning behind my vote. Spencer T♦ C 22:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
As I have indicated on my page, I have decided for sure this time to retire from Wikipedia. Reasons are stated on my talk page. Good luck to you sir. ESCStudent774441 ( talk) 05:20, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Fare thee well. 68.236.154.131 ( talk) 05:48, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Best of luck whereever life may take you. ++ Lar: t/ c 05:50, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
(Refactored to User_talk:Wedineinheck per my policy) ++ Lar: t/ c 14:28, 12 April 2008 (UTC) ( talk) 10:36, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
I would appreciate muchly any views you might have on my comments on Wikipedia_talk:Administrators_open_to_recall#the_language_in_this_article_does_not_discuss_.22recall.22_much I would've changed the article text itself but that seemed a bit cheeky as a newcomer to the page.:) Merkin's mum 12:21, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your support in my RFA, that didn't quite make it and ended at 120/47/13. There was a ton of great advice there, that I'm going to go on. Maybe someday. If not, there are articles to write! Thanks for your support. Lawrence § t/ e 17:39, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Category:Eurasians is down a little under 100 members since I started looking at it. That only covers A-C! Quite an Augean stable really. -- John ( talk) 16:27, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi there Lar; I don't want to get in the way of your editing, but I think you may have made a slight error. I noticed that earlier today you reverted an edit on Hearsay-in-US-law by eveninscrot which was a few days old. I wanted to let you know I reverted again to restore the article to the way it was after his edit. My reason is that Eeveninscrot's edit was correct: the phrase he removed was nonsense. It was discussed heavily on the user page, and I am pretty sure no one with any stake in the matter wants that orphaned half-truth sentence to come back. If you have any concerns with my edit or feel strongly that the removed sentence needs to be brought back, please feel free to post a reply here, or discuss it on the article's talk page. Thanks for your time. Non Curat Lex ( talk) 06:00, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Giano is an extremely articulate man. Also he's an adult, more so than most people here. You seem to be suggesting he's something on the lines of an inept child with "something preventing his direct communication". I suppose you don't realize how offensive that is. Bishonen | talk 15:59, 16 April 2008 (UTC).
I have sent you an email at Wikipedia Commons. -- Gavin Collins ( talk) 21:16, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
For all the pointers. I did download the pdf, I just need to crop out the text from the image for that one (I did it for the other, and one's captured since). Thanks again, Van Tucky 23:35, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
(Refactored to User_talk:OhanaUnited per my policy) ++ Lar: t/ c 22:33, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:MerrittChapman_1938_ad.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use. Suggestions on how to do so can be found here.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the " my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Rettetast ( talk) 22:27, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
So I thought. Johnbod ( talk) 23:02, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi! Saw your note to me in the close of this AfD. I agree with you, in my ideal world there would never be an article on someone with such beliefs. That's part of why I wasn't willing to spend any time working on it however my comment was going by the letter of WP:BIO saying: A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has been the subject of published[3] secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent,[4] and independent of the subject.[5] I'm thrilled that it's been deleted, but I think he probably is notable per WP:BIO, that was the basis of my comment, which was why it wasn't a !vote either way TRAVELLINGCARI My story Tell me yours 18:43, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Cheers, Daniel ( talk) 00:42, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Something is puzzling me (It's Ok Arbs and IRC relax - inncocent question coming) as I'm a computer illiterate you might be able to enlighten me - today when voting on a RFA for one of those odd reasons the server logged me out and I saw my IP - no problem as I have no secrets, however when I looked at the IP contribs [4] only the top edit is mine. I am sitting her at home, using broadband, and no one else edits from this connection. So my question, if one of those earlier edits had been vandalistic etc, I woul dhave been blocked as sockpuppet - yes? This can't be a unique problem. so what happens in these instances? Giano ( talk) 07:28, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Feeling of deja vu! See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Improper page moves by Husond. Could we clear up the status of that old page and archive or review the sanctions there? Gene Nygaard has been doing good work, and I don't think it is fair to have that page being used against him. Carcharoth ( talk) 12:28, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
So my conscience, am I missing something? - jc37 00:49, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Susanlesch ( talk) 06:22, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Can you make a comment here, I don't ask you to unblock and agree, but your thoughts on the principle would be good. I would like to see him editing the pages he does best, but with some pretty severe restrictions. He has done some bad things in the past, and been banned for a long time now, but he is desperate to edit, and an ongoing ban seems cruel to my mind, but my own solution is not exactly kind either, so hopefully it makes a compromise with those who still want him far gone. Giano ( talk) 10:41, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Giano ( talk) 10:42, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
What is your opinion on this? We seem to end up on opposite sides of discussions pretty often these days, but your opinion is generally very well informed and well thought out - I won't frame this for you in advance, my comments are on AN/I and the bottom of the linked page. Avruch T 16:12, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
My comments, while uncollegial, were also true. I altered my vote per your request. -- Endless Dan 18:25, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
I saw http://www.wikitruth.info/index.php?title=Uncensored:Christopher_Tsai/Logs and so I checked out Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christopher Tsai. Your careful analysis makes "The delete arguments to me outweigh the keeps, there clearly is no consensus to keep. With a non notable or marginally notable BLP, unless the outcome is clearly "keep" we ought to be deleting, not keeping. Therefore, delete." justifiable.
But "With a non notable or marginally notable BLP, unless the outcome is clearly keep we must delete" would be a very bad policy. Since you are pushing for something like what you did to become standard best practice and then written into policy, please help prevent others from eliminating the "careful analysis" part of what you did.
Eventually perhaps we can write something like this into policy: "After careful analysis of the reasons, the standing of the participants, and whether Wikipedia is a better or worse encyclopedia with/without the article; the closing admin may at their discretion delete an article on a non notable or marginally notable living person if a majority or even arguably only half wish to delete." WAS 4.250 ( talk) 13:01, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
If you happen to have a moment of free time, I'd be very interested in your comments on this. Thanks! Kirill ( P) 02:30, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
I recently passed my A Level computing with a Distinction and was wondering if i could be a developer or a steward as i got the highest mark that you can get (100%) I was wondering if i could upload my programme which does the same work as 10 stewards and automatically reviews the requests for admins and the Bureaucrats. Would love the opportunity to use my software on the wiki and would be proud to offer exclusive rights to the wiki organisation.
Yours Sincerly, Chris19910 (talk) 08:13, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Leaving you both the same message Lar closed it as delete, and Sandstein closed as keep without an edit conflict. No further comment since it's clear where I stand on the article. FWIW, I think whichever way it goes, it needs to be clearly explained. TRAVELLINGCARI My story Tell me yours 19:21, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Lar, I hope you're not planning to unilaterally implement "marginal BLPs with no consensus default to delete". That will lead to a major headache at DRVs, and all sorts of drama, given that the community has expressed more than significant opposition to that at
WT:BLP. --
Relata refero (
disp.) 20:09, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
I saw, I followed the discussion. I think that's a good compromise. Thanks for giving me the heads up TRAVELLINGCARI
My story
Tell me yours 20:17, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
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The Half Barnstar | |
For making a admirable effort to negotiate a complicated situation with another administrator in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hema Sinha (2nd nomination), I hereby award User:Sandstein and User:Lar each half a barnstar for their cooperation. Well done, both of you. Hersfold ( t/ a/ c) 02:43, 30 April 2008 (UTC) |