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I noticed that you are the editor du jour at Eigenvalue, eigenvector and eigenspace. I thought you might want to have a look at the French interwiki version of the page: fr:Valeur propre, vecteur propre et espace propre. It seems to have evolved in a very different direction, and perhaps some of the material there could be incorporated into the English article as well. Best, silly rabbit ( talk) 14:52, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
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Hello, Lantonov. I was wondering if you could help explain a passage by Michael the Syrian when he wrote, "His savagery went to such a point that he ordered to bring their small children, got them tied down on earth and made thresh grain stones to smash them.” Could you describe that this means exactly? What are thresh grain stones? Thank your for any help you can offer! Dpattiris ( talk) 01:50, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi Lantonov. The most added texts from Monshuaiin in this article are biased nonsences and do not correspond to the level of Wikipedia! Regards! Jingby ( talk) 11:31, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
@ Jingby,
Ne te li e sram da narichash izuchavania ot Bulgariski anthropolozi i istoritsi "biased"... A koe ne e "biased" i li taka narecheno subektivno? Mojebi ti haresvash materiali pisani za pra-Bulgari ot Ruski i zapadni istoritsi v 19 i 20 vek kogato Evro-tsentrobejni politicheski tendentsii na klasicheskiat imperialisum sa suzdali obstoiatelstva poradi koito na dadeni lichnosti i natsionlani zad-granichni sili im e iznasialo da predstavat vsiako pleme sus koreni izvun Evropa kato varvarsko. Che taka i nie da budem prestaveni kato polu-varvari za da oburnem grub na chast ot nashata istoria i vuv sushtoto vreme da obiknem Slavianskite si bratia okupatori ot velikiat sayuz i komunisticheski raii.
Za razlika ot mnogo drugi hora, az izpolzvam akademichni materiali kogato pisha vuv Wikipedia. Ne moga da kaja sushtoto za teb Jinby. A che nie Bulgarite sme narod sus razlichni koreni e absolutna realnost, ot koiato ne biva da se sramuvame. Sushto ne triabva da se opasiavame da pokajem che horata/plemenata ot koito se e suzdal nashiat kompositen narod imat istoria i kultura, a ne taka narechena varvarska identichnost. Niama da razresha luji da se pishat kakto i samo stari perspektiviti da se pokazvat. Obratniat vraiant bi bil akt na neovajenie spriamo moiite pradedi, kakto i tvoiite, makar che ochevidno ne si dostatuchno zrial i li umen za da saubrazish svoiata naglost! Razbrali, i li si niakakuv samo-mrazesht Bulgarin sus kompleksi no bez kapka smelost i trudolubie cherez koeto da vlojish vreme i usilia da prochetesh vsichki akademichni perspektivi po vuprosa pod silata na otvoren i zainteresovan itelekt sus koiito da stignesh do maksimalno neutralni izvodi?!?
Jingby, zasrasami se i ne se opitvaii da govorish zad gurba mi (naprimer tuk vuv stranitsata na Lantonov) bez da me poznavash i li bez da si vidial sus kakvo sum doprinesal za Bulgarski statii vuv wikipedia. Tuk stava vupros da se predstaviat vsichki akademichni perpesktivi. Spodeli tvoiat neobrazovan perspektiv za informatsiata koiato sum predstavil, direktno na Dr. Petur Dobrev ot Bulgarska Akademia po Nauka (BAN), ta da vidim kakvo toii shte ti otgovori. Samo zapomni che toii e napravil poveche prouchvania za pra-Bulgarite, koito sa pokazani vuv knigi/tesi, ot vseki drug vuv poslednite dve desetiletia. -- Monshuai ( talk) 23:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Lantonov,
we're both rather interested in pseudotensors (you more than me to judge by the number of editions of Landau-Lifshitz that you have!). I'm curious as to what the reason for this interest is? Mine stems from the irritation of hearing people declare that conservation of energy is violated on cosmological scales by general relativity (e.g. by the process of inflation). Is that your concern as well, or is your interest purely "academic", if I might put it that way?
Just curious. Whatever the reason, it's great fun working with you. -- Michael C. Price talk 18:40, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Lantonov, thanks for the reply.
I seem to be a slower learner than you, especially in regard to the futility of updating historical articles here. I naively thought that history would easy to work on in Wikipedia; frustratingly it seems to be one of the hardest. That's a shame because I find history fascinating, especially ancient history. The editing restriction I incurred for stepping on the toes of a few historical/ religious bigots did seem disproportionate in that it was all encompassing; if ArbComm felt my actions were disruptive to one article, why place a broader restriction? In the end, though, it made little difference; the reason for my reduced involvement over the past few months was/is mostly due a couple of breakdowns in my health, which I am only slowly recovering from. Studying GR was a very diverting distraction when I felt unwell; very much a case of every cloud having a silver lining.
Like you I enjoy the didactic challenge of explaining something rigourously but with clarity. And as a side benefit, as you have found as well, you end up understanding the subject better. GR is a hobby of mine now (I didn't understand it very much when I was at college, despite having Michael Duff as lecturer. Thankfully I took down a comprehensive set notes!). One of things I like about GR is way it illuminates, and leads you off into, other areas (a recent diversion of mine has been into the Dirac equation).
Finally, let me share an insight which has slowly penetrated my skull over the last 25 years. GR is a tensor theory because we wish to impose a general co-ordinate covariance on our equations. But their is an additional invariance that we expect any physical equation to satisfy: to be locally lorentz covariant -- and for that we have to use frame fields or vierbeins. Rewriting the equations or lagrangian in terms of the vierbein, by replacing the metric with the vierbein instead:
leads to many simpler expressions, e.g.
You can raise and lower indices with
just as you can with the metric, but both invariances are encoded with the vierbein since:
under a general co-ordinate transformation and
under a local lorentz transformation. Strangely, MWT hardly touch on the subject. -- Michael C. Price talk 13:35, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
I hope you spotted the giant amphibian fossil (from Australia, DevonianMiddle Triassic)
Paracyclotosaurus davidi just off the central area; the only representative of its species (and probably genus, for all I know). My favourite fossil.
I forgot to mention earlier the punchline with vierbeins: varying the action w.r.t. the vierbein field yields the standard Einstein field equations, but, additionally, varying the action w.r.t. to the spin connection gauge field ( in my response to JRSpriggs) yields an analogous equation for torsion, complete with a spin connection current density.-- Michael C. Price talk 18:01, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
That sounds a pretty neat job. I like the way that DNA / molecular techniques cast new light on evolutionary relationships, even stuff so remote that we have no fossil evidence to go on (such as the evolution of chloroplasts or mitochondria). I was very amused when it revealed that fungi are more closely related to us than they are to plants. I tried visiting the British museum a few months back, but I had to leave because of the infernal heat. Nice place though -- must try again in the winter.
I don't think the vierbein techniques make any difference to anything derived from the field equations, since the field equations can be derived from vierbeins (just as well, or we would have big problems). I guess, therefore, that all the LL pseudotensor stuff is unaffected. What would be interesting would be to see if there is an analogous set of pseudotensors corresponding to the torsion / spin connection field equations. My guess is that there would be, but perhaps it encodes no more than conservation of angular momentum. -- Michael C. Price talk 05:34, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Lantonov - you've previously expressed interest in a Chicago wiki-meet. If you're interested in coming to another one, take a look at Wikipedia:Meetup/Chicago 3 and let us know your thoughts. best — Dan | talk 18:43, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi! I am not very familiar and therefore I want to ask you - Are you sure that the dialect from the villages east from Solun as Zarovo and Visoka are actually a part from this dialect? Aren't they a part a those dialects, widespread between Nevrokop and eastern part of region of Solun? Regards,-- JSimin ( talk) 22:24, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Especially, for Solun dialect: It is spoken in the Solun neighborhood, best represented in the villages of Visoka and Suho, near Lagadin, to the north of Solun. In addition to these, similar dialect is spoken in the villages of Negovan, Gradobor, Ayvatovo, Novo selo, Balevits, Kirechkyoy, Kliseli. For Drama-Ser dialect: To the north of the Solun dialect are the dialects of Drama, Valovishta and Ser which are a transition to the Gotse Delchev (Nevrokop) dialect. These quotes are from the "Bulgarian dialectology" by Prof. Stoykov. The map given is not correct in the details because it completely misses the Drama-Ser dialect which is recognized by both Bulgarian and Macedonian linguists as different (or at least transitory) from Solun dialect. Visoka and Suho are the most typical villages for Solun dialect.
Regards. -- Lantonov ( talk) 05:50, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you! I'll see the sources in the discussion page. I am agree that the map is not correct. However I have to explain my doubts. The concrete article is about the dialects between Solun and Voden (or if we use the terminology of Stoykov between Kukush and Voden). As you state, the dialect of the vilages east (norteast) from Solun as Zarovo and Visoka is a Rupian dialect. Can we say the same about the dialect west of Solun to Voden? Stoykov describes both dialects as separate - Kukush-Voden and WestRupian - Solun and Drama-Ser(es). As I understood under "Solun dialect" he means only the vilages east or north of Solun. The dialect in the hinterland of Solun, west of the town isn't included in this dialect. On the contrary, he includes the dialects from Lower Vardar in the group of Kukush-Voden dialect. Regards, -- JSimin ( talk) 12:41, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
hello, lantonov i have seen your extensive contributions to the Solun-Voden dialect. I thank you for your addition. I am a bit puzzled though. You have added a complete Bulgarianized version of every dialectial and lingual fact you have added. Why is this necessary for a dialect which even covers a part of the republic of Macedonia. The dialect is wide strechting and extends almost to Florina. I do not see why the Bulgarian comparison is necessary at all. We are not comparing to the dialect to just Bulgarian. It is also interesting to use the old and outdated texts which do not reflect todays situation. Would you be willing to cooperate to Wikify the article and to de-bulgarianise it? It is way to POV at the moment.
Also i am interested by this claim. Retention of diphtongs шт, жд as in Standard Bulgarian, as opposed to *tj, *dj in Serbian, Macedonian, and some Western Bulgarian dialects: къшта (bg:къща), плàштъм (bg:плащам), нуштà (bg:нужда), в’èжди (bg:вежди), миждỳ (bg:между), сàжди (bg:сажди).
The same dipthongs are used in the Western Macedonian Dialects; especially around Mavrovo, Debar, Struga. Куќа → Кушта, повраќање → повраштање. Ќ often turns to ШТ. Ѓ often turns to ЖД. These features are not a Bulgaria only phenomenom. The Western and South-Easten Macedonian dialects are known for bieng conservative; they have kept many similar features. The POV should be deleted when you have time to fix it up. And by any means the Maleševo-Pirin dialect is a lot better. PMK1 ( talk) 07:41, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
The info that you gave above that in MK dialects (in Rep. MK) there are шт, жд diphtongs surprises me a little in view of the Blazhe Koneski book on the Macedonian language in which he writes that *tj, *dj fusion is one of the 2 characteristic features of Macedonian language which distinguishes it from Bulgarian. On the other hand, it is not so surprising because it can be only added to the many inconsistencies in Koneski. BTW, in Bulgarian dialects there is also *tj, *dj fusion not only in the region of Macedonia, but also in the regions of Shopsko, Graovo, Znepole, and Western Moesia.
The difficulty comes from something else: BG and MK dialectologies are not completely overlapping. This is evident in the different names of the dialects but this is only a cosmetic problem. There is a more serious problem, exactly with the Solun-Voden (MK dialectology) dialect. In BG dialectology, this dialectal area overlaps with the Kukush-Voden dialect (Kukush is north of Solun). Solun dialect (in BG dialectology) overlaps with the modern Thessaloniki demos (in Greece) and is more similar to the Ser-Drama dialect. Solun and Ser-Drama (in BG dialectology) are grouped in Western-Rupian dialects but are still very different linguistically from each other. MK dialectology puts the whole Western-Rupian group in one dialect: Nevrokop-Ser-Drama.
Therefore, the information that I added is misleading because it describes another dialect: the Solun dialect (proper) which is present only in BG dialectology. I realised this after I put the information (see the duplicate section 'Solun-Voden dialect' above). I am considering to change this. Maybe the proper way to do it is to make a separate article Solun dialect, put the linguistic info in it, and then substitute the info in the Solun-Voden dialect with the true linguistic info pertaining to Kukush-Voden dialect. In the intro it is said already that Solun-Voden (MK) = Kukush-Voden (BG). What is your opinion about this? -- Lantonov ( talk) 09:18, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi Lantonov, could you explain exactly what the apostrophes and diacritics (grave accents in particular) are meant to represent? Мерси. Balkan Fever 10:40, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Now, the article looks better with the changes. I think some italics would also be helpful to distinguish the various clauses. If you dont mind i would like to reword it. Also the ь sound is often stated in Macedonian as just an apostrophe. ie. bьrgo goes to b'rgo. (mind the multi-alphabets.) Also the й is bieng used a lot are you meaning more of a i, j or a ї sound? The different prnounciations can be confusing. Please give me feedback. Also you might want to talk to fellow editors on this page they seem to think that even torlacki govor is bulgarian. PMK1 ( talk) 03:10, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
About torlacki govor, well, I think that Krste (or Kr'ste) Misirkov have gone too far to consider it a (purely) Bulgarian dialect. Torlacki is considered by serious linguists (including Bulgarian ones) as a transitory dialect between Serbian and Bulgarian languages which to the north-west has more Serbian features while to the south-east Serbian and Bulgarian are in equal parts at best. In the article now is "was considered Bulgarian".
To BalkanFever: On the question of IPA, I fully agree, and was even going to propose it myself. It will serve 2 purposes: first, go some way to reconciliation (why Bulgarian and not Serbo-Macedonian letters?), and second, it will be (hopefully) more understandable to international readers. This is an English Wiki after all. All the more that IPA has all the symbols we need. -- Lantonov ( talk) 17:14, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
My apologies i did not attempt at pushing any propoganda as i wrote further up "I am convinced that you are actually willing to help and post bulgarian propaganda" i actually meant to write "I am convinced that you are actually willing to help and not post bulgarian propaganda". I believe that you have done a good job on the Bulgarian Dialects page. You have also seriously attempted to change many articles to the benefit of the reader. About pushing political veiws it does no come to my taste either. Good Job on the articles. PMK1 ( talk) 09:31, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
BTW, Republic of Macedonia has Prof. Kosta Peev from Strumitsa (Strumica), a highly respected authority both in RM and in Bulgaria for his 2-volume book on the Kukush dialect. He is a student of another great linguist - Bozhidar Vidoeski.-- Lantonov ( talk) 10:15, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
(and no im not trying to push propaganda it just happens to be a good example of the dialect :). PMK1 ( talk) 09:53, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
I was pointing to features such as from 1:00 to 1:04 about her pronounciation and her accent on words such as devetta. 1:16 me zemaa ot školo. 1:27 godinki nemaf. 3:06 ot taj na taj. 3:16 praveite/ правейте. accent on zakola i otepa 3:23. 4:14 ručok there are just a few features which would believe me to think that those features are in the solun accent. please tell me if i am wrong or if you did not pick those features up? PMK1 ( talk) 06:30, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
You have adrssed my concern about the dialect. The book by hendricks is a very good book on the dialect and everything concerned about it. i was just curios as to how the ya would ever replace the e, especially in radozda (where i have spent much time and never heard the swtich!). I am also curious as to the Korca dialect, i would be shocked if a e → ya occured. Do you have any info on the dialect which i could have a read of? PMK1 ( talk) 05:49, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
2. Diphtongs шт, жд < *tj, *dj: гàшти, лèшта, прàшта, вèжди, сàжди.
3. Action participles of the type: носèешти, игрèешти.
4. Future tense forming particle ќа (instead of ќe, etc.)
5. Omission of suffix -м for verb conjugation for 1 person singular present tense and for 3rd conjugation verbs: ѝма, вѝка, and also for the other conjugations — бèра, сèча, нòса, йàда.
Thanks for the information. I missed the conversation on the Bulgarian dialects page.
It is an interesting dialect surrounded by Macedonian, Albanian and Aromanian speakers. Although i have tried to talk to many old people while is was in Radozda and Mali Vlaj i was unable to hear a strong presence of your first point. none the less it is a linguistic feature of the dialect. PMK1 ( talk) 09:52, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
ОХРИДСКО-СТРУЖКИ ГОВОР
Разположен е в котловините около Охридското езеро. На югоизток граничи с преспанския, на север — с дебърския, на запад опира до Албания, на изток — с битолския говор. Общи черти свързват говорите в очертания регион в една цялост.
В този регион се обособяват по-ограничени диалектни формации:
Г р а д с к и о х р и д с к и г о в о р
В и д о е с к и, Б. Охридско-струшките говори. Обид за класификациjа.— Прилози МАНУ. Одделение за лингвистика и литературна наука (Скопjе), 7, 1982, № 2, 5—10;
М и р ч е в, К. Най-характернитс особености в охридския говор. — Охрид, 8 дек. 1943, с. 5;
С и л я н о в, Н. Редукция на звука a в охридския и тетовския говор. — СбНУ, 9, 1894, 582—585;
С п р о с т р а н о в, Е. По говора на град Охрид. — СбНУ, 18, 1901, 534—544;
Я к и м о в а, М. Охридският говор. — Изв. на Семинара по слав. филология, 3, 1911, 223—256.
С т р у ж к и г о в о р
Обхваща града Струга и околните села: Вранища, Октиси, Вишни, Лабунища, Подгорци, Боровец (западно от р. Дрин) и Присовяни, Глобочица, Брчево, Боговица, Ташморунища, Ложани (източно от р. Дрин).
Т о ш е в, К. Диjалектолошки материjали од Струга од XIX век. — Мак. jaзик, 1960— 1961, № 11—12, 1—11;
Т о ш е в, К. Струшкиот говор. (Според некои материjали од ХIХ век.) Скопjе, 1979, 115 с.
Г о в о р ъ т н а Р а д о ж д а и В е в ч а н и
Разпространен е в стружките села Радожда, Вевчани, Мали Влай и намиращото се на албанска територия село Лин.
М и л е т и ч, Л. Важна фонетична особеност на един западномакедонски говор. — СпБАН, 16, 1918, № 9, 35—42;
H e n d r i k s, P. The Radožda-Vevčani Dialect of Macedonian. Cisse, 1976, 303 p.
togovi. or is the translation necessary for this dialect of bulgarian? PMK1 ( talk) 07:00, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
In Korca the e become a /iæ/ under stress usually but not always: тѝя, ѝмяше (the stress is on и in those).-- Lantonov ( talk) 09:22, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Latinic script:
English: Oh my best man! here you were? Why did you hide. From where does he know which is your piece? How doesn't he know? He knows what God is doing, but he doesn't know his own pieces (of bread)
Unfortunately, have to leave now but I will be back with any suggestion that comes to mind. Don't hesitate to undo any of my cuts if you find them excessive. Happy editing!
If you are interested here is a good source of the dialect spoken in the kukush-voden regions (lower vardar dialect) in 1852. http://mk.wikibooks.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE_%D0%95%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B5. PMK1 ( talk) 12:49, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
i was reading that in the shopski dialects that the words "riza" may be used instead of "košula". This is very strange because in the Struga region, riza is another words for "krpa" (towel). Do you know of any similarities? PMK1 ( talk) 09:35, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Triphtongization is characteristic for Serbian language, and Bulgarian dialects pick it up along with many other Serbian traits the further west we go. For instance, in Трънско (Western Graovo and Znepole), it is already "крпа" and "крпе". -- Lantonov ( talk) 06:14, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, good piece of information! -- ἀνυπόδητος ( talk) 18:25, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Greetings! In your article on the Solun Dialect, you state that the Kostur dialect was the first Bulgarian dialect to be described by V. Grigirovich. As a native speaker of the Kostur dialect, I have to point out that Grigorovich was referring to the village of Boboshtitsa south of Korcha, and not to Bobishcha in the Kostur region. Keep up the great work on the dialects. Do Kostur next. You have a native speaker you can check with. Kostolata ( talk) 20:58, 28 January 2009 (UTC)Kostolata
Thanks for answering. I hope I didn't come across as too pushy in my messages to you. For whatever it's worth, most Kosturcheni and their descendants in North America consider their dialect Bulgarian "Болгáрцки". Kostolata ( talk) 15:33, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the information. I read Russian and Bulgarian fairly well. The "nosovki" are alive and well in my dialect, before voiced stops: зъмби, грънди, чендо, пендесе, чембрица I have Blagoi Shklifov's studies on the Kostur and Dolna Prespa dialects. But what I don't have is your vast linguistic talents. So keep up the great work! Kostolata ( talk) 15:38, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
In your article "Bulgarian Dialects" you use the adjective "glagolic". Isn't the correct form "glagolitic"? Since you are writing about the development of *tj/dj, you may be interested to know that k'/g' are very rare in the Kostur region. For example, in Dambeni and Smardesh, we have "ke" for the future particle. Everything else is шч/ж: къшча, шчерка, свешча, межа, вежа. Kostolata ( talk) 14:41, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Great stuff! Kostolata ( talk) 16:08, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Greetings! Your knowledge of Bulgarian dialects is truly prodigious and I find this article a fascinating read. If it is of any interest to you, "шт/жд" also occur in certain pockets in southwestern Aegean Macedonia. They are found in the southeastern Lerin Dialect along the axis Banitsa-Pətele-Ekshi Su-Zeleniche-Prekopana. They are also found in Dolna Prespa. I have grown up listening to all these dialects. If you want a footnote for Dolna Prespa, I can look it up for you. Cheers! Kostolata ( talk) 18:27, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Greetings! Your knowledge of Bulgarian dialects is truly prodigious and I find this article a fascinating read. If it is of any interest to you, "шт/жд" also occur in certain pockets in southwestern Aegean Macedonia. They are found in the southeastern Lerin Dialect along the axis Banitsa-Pətele-Ekshi Su-Zeleniche-Prekopana. They are also found in Dolna Prespa. I have grown up listening to all these dialects. If you want a footnote for Dolna Prespa, I can look it up for you. Cheers! Kostolata ( talk) 18:28, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for my very first barnstar you gave. Although it is a long article, I didn't spend too much time to reshape those numbers. Compare to you work, my work is trivial :-) - Justin545 ( talk) 02:09, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
I noticed on Talk:Roma in Bulgaria that you had asked a while back whether the U.S. Constitution allows for ethnic parties. It was indeed an interesting question, and I don't know if anyone ever answered it for you. Since the U.S. Constitution was written before the political party system existed in the U.S. (1787), it doesn't even address the concept of political parties. What becomes a question of mine is whether ethnic parties have existed U.S. and run candidates in elections. I suppose ethnic lobby groups in the U.S. substitute for them.
Hi Lantonov, I address to you since you are one of the current Wikipedia majors and also because you are the one who welcomed me to this task.-
Among many articles, I was trying to keep Peter Daicos, the AFL former footballer's one as neat and neutral as possible.- As you may see in the "History" and "Discussions", I have been involved in.- At fist, i have to assume in a sort of "nationalistic" hot headed way, but as you may see in the development I have melted into an informative issue, leaving national POV's aside.
This Daicos chap, happens to be an Australian, hailing from the Macedonia region. Being myself from a Greek extraction, people from Macedonia are either Greeks or Bulgarians for me.- But since the "Macedonian" nation was created I gave up to international consensus.
With this player in particular, it happens that both "Macedonian Slavs"(namely "Aegean") and "Macedonian" Greeks (namely "Slavophones"), claim his belonging.
I tryied to write a neutral article with proper redirections (even against the proper Greek fanatics), where I considered that the "Ethnicity issue" would be useful.
Since the last months I have been chequed by another used (Mactruth) who happens to be a chauvinist, I do not want to end in an Editing War. I think that what he looks for is just political propaganda and/or POV.
I therefore please ask you -if you may- to read the article (with the redirections, editings and discussions) and please set order, so as the article itsef is not denaturalized.
Thank you very much.- Periptero ( talk) 20:22, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Lantonov. I am having a dispute with a few people who feel that the Bulgarian territory's ancient heritage should not be mentioned in the lede. They are also under the impression that it should not be stated that Bulgaria is partly comprised of the regions officially known as Moesia, Thrace and Macedonia, as their argument is that this is too detailed for the lede itself. That however is ironic, as the current lede discusses in far more detail the Stara Planina range, Rodopi range, Rila range, Musala, the Danubian Plain and the Upper Thracian Plain. As you can see, it's not the details that bother them, but rather any information that may somehow be associated with ancient cultures.
I provided numerous examples that the general Wikipedia consensus is that this type of information can be mentioned in the ledes of various modern countries whose territories were once home to ancient civilizations. Some examples are Jordan, Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, Italy, Greece, India, etc... Their argument then became that Bulgaria is not a direct product of the Thracian civilization. I explained that no country today is direct product of an ancient civilization, simply because modern sovereign nation-states did not exist before the Treaty of Westphalia. In other words, it is difficult to quantify the links between antiquity and modernity, although it is undeniable that some traditions that existed in the past are still carried on today. In Bulgaria's example the Kukeri Festival and Martenitsa are a legacy of Thracian rituals. In other words, if this information is to be kept out of the lede, it would mean that it should not be in the ledes of other countries either. That of course made some Greek editors rather defensive.
I listed many other reasons and disproved various hypocritical argumentative points in the talk:Bulgaria discussion page. As a result, their premises shifted repeatedly, always in search of leverage on the matter. Unable to counter my statements effectively, one user has now proclaimed that the article consensus is against me regardless of how objective I may be. The problem it seems is that a few motivated users utilize double standards and dominate edits in the Bulgaria article, while those that may indeed support proper changes and indeed the neutralization of double standards may not even be aware of the discussion. Thus I ask if you may humbly share your opinion. If you have the time, can you please look at the discussion page and share with me your thoughts on the matter. There is a lot of info there and I would appreciate it if you read everything as this would give you a good idea about what has been said. Thank you.-- Monshuai ( talk) 09:15, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
I respect your article on BKL singularity as a model, and I was hoping to restore the content that was maimed on other articles, source it and protect it. Will you provide a list for this content? It is difficult to search through contributions. Likebox ( talk) 16:12, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
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Despite being angered by some administrators who kept summarily deleting my referenced contributions with a pure spite and moved by vested interest, I decided to return and complete my unfinished work on BKL singularity and related topics. This move was also stimulated by some general policies of Wikipedia such as its staunch support for open access and resistance to the attempts to commercialise it. However, if I sense even a slightest hint of administrative obstruction, I am leaving immediately again. Lantonov ( talk) 08:24, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
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Hi, I saw your contributions on Bianchi classification and was wondering if you could add a few sentences explaining what the Bianchi spaces are in that context? Someone asked about this on the Talk page. Cheers, AxelBoldt ( talk) 23:25, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
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I reduced the material you added to Roscoea tibetica a bit (although I added a cladogram). We shouldn't really be including this material yet, since there's only a primary source which isn't even the final version. However, it's interesting (to me at least!), and I doubt there will be objections. Peter coxhead ( talk) 15:46, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
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I noticed that you are the editor du jour at Eigenvalue, eigenvector and eigenspace. I thought you might want to have a look at the French interwiki version of the page: fr:Valeur propre, vecteur propre et espace propre. It seems to have evolved in a very different direction, and perhaps some of the material there could be incorporated into the English article as well. Best, silly rabbit ( talk) 14:52, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
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Hello, Lantonov. I was wondering if you could help explain a passage by Michael the Syrian when he wrote, "His savagery went to such a point that he ordered to bring their small children, got them tied down on earth and made thresh grain stones to smash them.” Could you describe that this means exactly? What are thresh grain stones? Thank your for any help you can offer! Dpattiris ( talk) 01:50, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi Lantonov. The most added texts from Monshuaiin in this article are biased nonsences and do not correspond to the level of Wikipedia! Regards! Jingby ( talk) 11:31, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
@ Jingby,
Ne te li e sram da narichash izuchavania ot Bulgariski anthropolozi i istoritsi "biased"... A koe ne e "biased" i li taka narecheno subektivno? Mojebi ti haresvash materiali pisani za pra-Bulgari ot Ruski i zapadni istoritsi v 19 i 20 vek kogato Evro-tsentrobejni politicheski tendentsii na klasicheskiat imperialisum sa suzdali obstoiatelstva poradi koito na dadeni lichnosti i natsionlani zad-granichni sili im e iznasialo da predstavat vsiako pleme sus koreni izvun Evropa kato varvarsko. Che taka i nie da budem prestaveni kato polu-varvari za da oburnem grub na chast ot nashata istoria i vuv sushtoto vreme da obiknem Slavianskite si bratia okupatori ot velikiat sayuz i komunisticheski raii.
Za razlika ot mnogo drugi hora, az izpolzvam akademichni materiali kogato pisha vuv Wikipedia. Ne moga da kaja sushtoto za teb Jinby. A che nie Bulgarite sme narod sus razlichni koreni e absolutna realnost, ot koiato ne biva da se sramuvame. Sushto ne triabva da se opasiavame da pokajem che horata/plemenata ot koito se e suzdal nashiat kompositen narod imat istoria i kultura, a ne taka narechena varvarska identichnost. Niama da razresha luji da se pishat kakto i samo stari perspektiviti da se pokazvat. Obratniat vraiant bi bil akt na neovajenie spriamo moiite pradedi, kakto i tvoiite, makar che ochevidno ne si dostatuchno zrial i li umen za da saubrazish svoiata naglost! Razbrali, i li si niakakuv samo-mrazesht Bulgarin sus kompleksi no bez kapka smelost i trudolubie cherez koeto da vlojish vreme i usilia da prochetesh vsichki akademichni perspektivi po vuprosa pod silata na otvoren i zainteresovan itelekt sus koiito da stignesh do maksimalno neutralni izvodi?!?
Jingby, zasrasami se i ne se opitvaii da govorish zad gurba mi (naprimer tuk vuv stranitsata na Lantonov) bez da me poznavash i li bez da si vidial sus kakvo sum doprinesal za Bulgarski statii vuv wikipedia. Tuk stava vupros da se predstaviat vsichki akademichni perpesktivi. Spodeli tvoiat neobrazovan perspektiv za informatsiata koiato sum predstavil, direktno na Dr. Petur Dobrev ot Bulgarska Akademia po Nauka (BAN), ta da vidim kakvo toii shte ti otgovori. Samo zapomni che toii e napravil poveche prouchvania za pra-Bulgarite, koito sa pokazani vuv knigi/tesi, ot vseki drug vuv poslednite dve desetiletia. -- Monshuai ( talk) 23:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Lantonov,
we're both rather interested in pseudotensors (you more than me to judge by the number of editions of Landau-Lifshitz that you have!). I'm curious as to what the reason for this interest is? Mine stems from the irritation of hearing people declare that conservation of energy is violated on cosmological scales by general relativity (e.g. by the process of inflation). Is that your concern as well, or is your interest purely "academic", if I might put it that way?
Just curious. Whatever the reason, it's great fun working with you. -- Michael C. Price talk 18:40, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Lantonov, thanks for the reply.
I seem to be a slower learner than you, especially in regard to the futility of updating historical articles here. I naively thought that history would easy to work on in Wikipedia; frustratingly it seems to be one of the hardest. That's a shame because I find history fascinating, especially ancient history. The editing restriction I incurred for stepping on the toes of a few historical/ religious bigots did seem disproportionate in that it was all encompassing; if ArbComm felt my actions were disruptive to one article, why place a broader restriction? In the end, though, it made little difference; the reason for my reduced involvement over the past few months was/is mostly due a couple of breakdowns in my health, which I am only slowly recovering from. Studying GR was a very diverting distraction when I felt unwell; very much a case of every cloud having a silver lining.
Like you I enjoy the didactic challenge of explaining something rigourously but with clarity. And as a side benefit, as you have found as well, you end up understanding the subject better. GR is a hobby of mine now (I didn't understand it very much when I was at college, despite having Michael Duff as lecturer. Thankfully I took down a comprehensive set notes!). One of things I like about GR is way it illuminates, and leads you off into, other areas (a recent diversion of mine has been into the Dirac equation).
Finally, let me share an insight which has slowly penetrated my skull over the last 25 years. GR is a tensor theory because we wish to impose a general co-ordinate covariance on our equations. But their is an additional invariance that we expect any physical equation to satisfy: to be locally lorentz covariant -- and for that we have to use frame fields or vierbeins. Rewriting the equations or lagrangian in terms of the vierbein, by replacing the metric with the vierbein instead:
leads to many simpler expressions, e.g.
You can raise and lower indices with
just as you can with the metric, but both invariances are encoded with the vierbein since:
under a general co-ordinate transformation and
under a local lorentz transformation. Strangely, MWT hardly touch on the subject. -- Michael C. Price talk 13:35, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
I hope you spotted the giant amphibian fossil (from Australia, DevonianMiddle Triassic)
Paracyclotosaurus davidi just off the central area; the only representative of its species (and probably genus, for all I know). My favourite fossil.
I forgot to mention earlier the punchline with vierbeins: varying the action w.r.t. the vierbein field yields the standard Einstein field equations, but, additionally, varying the action w.r.t. to the spin connection gauge field ( in my response to JRSpriggs) yields an analogous equation for torsion, complete with a spin connection current density.-- Michael C. Price talk 18:01, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
That sounds a pretty neat job. I like the way that DNA / molecular techniques cast new light on evolutionary relationships, even stuff so remote that we have no fossil evidence to go on (such as the evolution of chloroplasts or mitochondria). I was very amused when it revealed that fungi are more closely related to us than they are to plants. I tried visiting the British museum a few months back, but I had to leave because of the infernal heat. Nice place though -- must try again in the winter.
I don't think the vierbein techniques make any difference to anything derived from the field equations, since the field equations can be derived from vierbeins (just as well, or we would have big problems). I guess, therefore, that all the LL pseudotensor stuff is unaffected. What would be interesting would be to see if there is an analogous set of pseudotensors corresponding to the torsion / spin connection field equations. My guess is that there would be, but perhaps it encodes no more than conservation of angular momentum. -- Michael C. Price talk 05:34, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Lantonov - you've previously expressed interest in a Chicago wiki-meet. If you're interested in coming to another one, take a look at Wikipedia:Meetup/Chicago 3 and let us know your thoughts. best — Dan | talk 18:43, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi! I am not very familiar and therefore I want to ask you - Are you sure that the dialect from the villages east from Solun as Zarovo and Visoka are actually a part from this dialect? Aren't they a part a those dialects, widespread between Nevrokop and eastern part of region of Solun? Regards,-- JSimin ( talk) 22:24, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Especially, for Solun dialect: It is spoken in the Solun neighborhood, best represented in the villages of Visoka and Suho, near Lagadin, to the north of Solun. In addition to these, similar dialect is spoken in the villages of Negovan, Gradobor, Ayvatovo, Novo selo, Balevits, Kirechkyoy, Kliseli. For Drama-Ser dialect: To the north of the Solun dialect are the dialects of Drama, Valovishta and Ser which are a transition to the Gotse Delchev (Nevrokop) dialect. These quotes are from the "Bulgarian dialectology" by Prof. Stoykov. The map given is not correct in the details because it completely misses the Drama-Ser dialect which is recognized by both Bulgarian and Macedonian linguists as different (or at least transitory) from Solun dialect. Visoka and Suho are the most typical villages for Solun dialect.
Regards. -- Lantonov ( talk) 05:50, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you! I'll see the sources in the discussion page. I am agree that the map is not correct. However I have to explain my doubts. The concrete article is about the dialects between Solun and Voden (or if we use the terminology of Stoykov between Kukush and Voden). As you state, the dialect of the vilages east (norteast) from Solun as Zarovo and Visoka is a Rupian dialect. Can we say the same about the dialect west of Solun to Voden? Stoykov describes both dialects as separate - Kukush-Voden and WestRupian - Solun and Drama-Ser(es). As I understood under "Solun dialect" he means only the vilages east or north of Solun. The dialect in the hinterland of Solun, west of the town isn't included in this dialect. On the contrary, he includes the dialects from Lower Vardar in the group of Kukush-Voden dialect. Regards, -- JSimin ( talk) 12:41, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
hello, lantonov i have seen your extensive contributions to the Solun-Voden dialect. I thank you for your addition. I am a bit puzzled though. You have added a complete Bulgarianized version of every dialectial and lingual fact you have added. Why is this necessary for a dialect which even covers a part of the republic of Macedonia. The dialect is wide strechting and extends almost to Florina. I do not see why the Bulgarian comparison is necessary at all. We are not comparing to the dialect to just Bulgarian. It is also interesting to use the old and outdated texts which do not reflect todays situation. Would you be willing to cooperate to Wikify the article and to de-bulgarianise it? It is way to POV at the moment.
Also i am interested by this claim. Retention of diphtongs шт, жд as in Standard Bulgarian, as opposed to *tj, *dj in Serbian, Macedonian, and some Western Bulgarian dialects: къшта (bg:къща), плàштъм (bg:плащам), нуштà (bg:нужда), в’èжди (bg:вежди), миждỳ (bg:между), сàжди (bg:сажди).
The same dipthongs are used in the Western Macedonian Dialects; especially around Mavrovo, Debar, Struga. Куќа → Кушта, повраќање → повраштање. Ќ often turns to ШТ. Ѓ often turns to ЖД. These features are not a Bulgaria only phenomenom. The Western and South-Easten Macedonian dialects are known for bieng conservative; they have kept many similar features. The POV should be deleted when you have time to fix it up. And by any means the Maleševo-Pirin dialect is a lot better. PMK1 ( talk) 07:41, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
The info that you gave above that in MK dialects (in Rep. MK) there are шт, жд diphtongs surprises me a little in view of the Blazhe Koneski book on the Macedonian language in which he writes that *tj, *dj fusion is one of the 2 characteristic features of Macedonian language which distinguishes it from Bulgarian. On the other hand, it is not so surprising because it can be only added to the many inconsistencies in Koneski. BTW, in Bulgarian dialects there is also *tj, *dj fusion not only in the region of Macedonia, but also in the regions of Shopsko, Graovo, Znepole, and Western Moesia.
The difficulty comes from something else: BG and MK dialectologies are not completely overlapping. This is evident in the different names of the dialects but this is only a cosmetic problem. There is a more serious problem, exactly with the Solun-Voden (MK dialectology) dialect. In BG dialectology, this dialectal area overlaps with the Kukush-Voden dialect (Kukush is north of Solun). Solun dialect (in BG dialectology) overlaps with the modern Thessaloniki demos (in Greece) and is more similar to the Ser-Drama dialect. Solun and Ser-Drama (in BG dialectology) are grouped in Western-Rupian dialects but are still very different linguistically from each other. MK dialectology puts the whole Western-Rupian group in one dialect: Nevrokop-Ser-Drama.
Therefore, the information that I added is misleading because it describes another dialect: the Solun dialect (proper) which is present only in BG dialectology. I realised this after I put the information (see the duplicate section 'Solun-Voden dialect' above). I am considering to change this. Maybe the proper way to do it is to make a separate article Solun dialect, put the linguistic info in it, and then substitute the info in the Solun-Voden dialect with the true linguistic info pertaining to Kukush-Voden dialect. In the intro it is said already that Solun-Voden (MK) = Kukush-Voden (BG). What is your opinion about this? -- Lantonov ( talk) 09:18, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi Lantonov, could you explain exactly what the apostrophes and diacritics (grave accents in particular) are meant to represent? Мерси. Balkan Fever 10:40, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Now, the article looks better with the changes. I think some italics would also be helpful to distinguish the various clauses. If you dont mind i would like to reword it. Also the ь sound is often stated in Macedonian as just an apostrophe. ie. bьrgo goes to b'rgo. (mind the multi-alphabets.) Also the й is bieng used a lot are you meaning more of a i, j or a ї sound? The different prnounciations can be confusing. Please give me feedback. Also you might want to talk to fellow editors on this page they seem to think that even torlacki govor is bulgarian. PMK1 ( talk) 03:10, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
About torlacki govor, well, I think that Krste (or Kr'ste) Misirkov have gone too far to consider it a (purely) Bulgarian dialect. Torlacki is considered by serious linguists (including Bulgarian ones) as a transitory dialect between Serbian and Bulgarian languages which to the north-west has more Serbian features while to the south-east Serbian and Bulgarian are in equal parts at best. In the article now is "was considered Bulgarian".
To BalkanFever: On the question of IPA, I fully agree, and was even going to propose it myself. It will serve 2 purposes: first, go some way to reconciliation (why Bulgarian and not Serbo-Macedonian letters?), and second, it will be (hopefully) more understandable to international readers. This is an English Wiki after all. All the more that IPA has all the symbols we need. -- Lantonov ( talk) 17:14, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
My apologies i did not attempt at pushing any propoganda as i wrote further up "I am convinced that you are actually willing to help and post bulgarian propaganda" i actually meant to write "I am convinced that you are actually willing to help and not post bulgarian propaganda". I believe that you have done a good job on the Bulgarian Dialects page. You have also seriously attempted to change many articles to the benefit of the reader. About pushing political veiws it does no come to my taste either. Good Job on the articles. PMK1 ( talk) 09:31, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
BTW, Republic of Macedonia has Prof. Kosta Peev from Strumitsa (Strumica), a highly respected authority both in RM and in Bulgaria for his 2-volume book on the Kukush dialect. He is a student of another great linguist - Bozhidar Vidoeski.-- Lantonov ( talk) 10:15, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
(and no im not trying to push propaganda it just happens to be a good example of the dialect :). PMK1 ( talk) 09:53, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
I was pointing to features such as from 1:00 to 1:04 about her pronounciation and her accent on words such as devetta. 1:16 me zemaa ot školo. 1:27 godinki nemaf. 3:06 ot taj na taj. 3:16 praveite/ правейте. accent on zakola i otepa 3:23. 4:14 ručok there are just a few features which would believe me to think that those features are in the solun accent. please tell me if i am wrong or if you did not pick those features up? PMK1 ( talk) 06:30, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
You have adrssed my concern about the dialect. The book by hendricks is a very good book on the dialect and everything concerned about it. i was just curios as to how the ya would ever replace the e, especially in radozda (where i have spent much time and never heard the swtich!). I am also curious as to the Korca dialect, i would be shocked if a e → ya occured. Do you have any info on the dialect which i could have a read of? PMK1 ( talk) 05:49, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
2. Diphtongs шт, жд < *tj, *dj: гàшти, лèшта, прàшта, вèжди, сàжди.
3. Action participles of the type: носèешти, игрèешти.
4. Future tense forming particle ќа (instead of ќe, etc.)
5. Omission of suffix -м for verb conjugation for 1 person singular present tense and for 3rd conjugation verbs: ѝма, вѝка, and also for the other conjugations — бèра, сèча, нòса, йàда.
Thanks for the information. I missed the conversation on the Bulgarian dialects page.
It is an interesting dialect surrounded by Macedonian, Albanian and Aromanian speakers. Although i have tried to talk to many old people while is was in Radozda and Mali Vlaj i was unable to hear a strong presence of your first point. none the less it is a linguistic feature of the dialect. PMK1 ( talk) 09:52, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
ОХРИДСКО-СТРУЖКИ ГОВОР
Разположен е в котловините около Охридското езеро. На югоизток граничи с преспанския, на север — с дебърския, на запад опира до Албания, на изток — с битолския говор. Общи черти свързват говорите в очертания регион в една цялост.
В този регион се обособяват по-ограничени диалектни формации:
Г р а д с к и о х р и д с к и г о в о р
В и д о е с к и, Б. Охридско-струшките говори. Обид за класификациjа.— Прилози МАНУ. Одделение за лингвистика и литературна наука (Скопjе), 7, 1982, № 2, 5—10;
М и р ч е в, К. Най-характернитс особености в охридския говор. — Охрид, 8 дек. 1943, с. 5;
С и л я н о в, Н. Редукция на звука a в охридския и тетовския говор. — СбНУ, 9, 1894, 582—585;
С п р о с т р а н о в, Е. По говора на град Охрид. — СбНУ, 18, 1901, 534—544;
Я к и м о в а, М. Охридският говор. — Изв. на Семинара по слав. филология, 3, 1911, 223—256.
С т р у ж к и г о в о р
Обхваща града Струга и околните села: Вранища, Октиси, Вишни, Лабунища, Подгорци, Боровец (западно от р. Дрин) и Присовяни, Глобочица, Брчево, Боговица, Ташморунища, Ложани (източно от р. Дрин).
Т о ш е в, К. Диjалектолошки материjали од Струга од XIX век. — Мак. jaзик, 1960— 1961, № 11—12, 1—11;
Т о ш е в, К. Струшкиот говор. (Според некои материjали од ХIХ век.) Скопjе, 1979, 115 с.
Г о в о р ъ т н а Р а д о ж д а и В е в ч а н и
Разпространен е в стружките села Радожда, Вевчани, Мали Влай и намиращото се на албанска територия село Лин.
М и л е т и ч, Л. Важна фонетична особеност на един западномакедонски говор. — СпБАН, 16, 1918, № 9, 35—42;
H e n d r i k s, P. The Radožda-Vevčani Dialect of Macedonian. Cisse, 1976, 303 p.
togovi. or is the translation necessary for this dialect of bulgarian? PMK1 ( talk) 07:00, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
In Korca the e become a /iæ/ under stress usually but not always: тѝя, ѝмяше (the stress is on и in those).-- Lantonov ( talk) 09:22, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Latinic script:
English: Oh my best man! here you were? Why did you hide. From where does he know which is your piece? How doesn't he know? He knows what God is doing, but he doesn't know his own pieces (of bread)
Unfortunately, have to leave now but I will be back with any suggestion that comes to mind. Don't hesitate to undo any of my cuts if you find them excessive. Happy editing!
If you are interested here is a good source of the dialect spoken in the kukush-voden regions (lower vardar dialect) in 1852. http://mk.wikibooks.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE_%D0%95%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B5. PMK1 ( talk) 12:49, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
i was reading that in the shopski dialects that the words "riza" may be used instead of "košula". This is very strange because in the Struga region, riza is another words for "krpa" (towel). Do you know of any similarities? PMK1 ( talk) 09:35, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Triphtongization is characteristic for Serbian language, and Bulgarian dialects pick it up along with many other Serbian traits the further west we go. For instance, in Трънско (Western Graovo and Znepole), it is already "крпа" and "крпе". -- Lantonov ( talk) 06:14, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, good piece of information! -- ἀνυπόδητος ( talk) 18:25, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Greetings! In your article on the Solun Dialect, you state that the Kostur dialect was the first Bulgarian dialect to be described by V. Grigirovich. As a native speaker of the Kostur dialect, I have to point out that Grigorovich was referring to the village of Boboshtitsa south of Korcha, and not to Bobishcha in the Kostur region. Keep up the great work on the dialects. Do Kostur next. You have a native speaker you can check with. Kostolata ( talk) 20:58, 28 January 2009 (UTC)Kostolata
Thanks for answering. I hope I didn't come across as too pushy in my messages to you. For whatever it's worth, most Kosturcheni and their descendants in North America consider their dialect Bulgarian "Болгáрцки". Kostolata ( talk) 15:33, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the information. I read Russian and Bulgarian fairly well. The "nosovki" are alive and well in my dialect, before voiced stops: зъмби, грънди, чендо, пендесе, чембрица I have Blagoi Shklifov's studies on the Kostur and Dolna Prespa dialects. But what I don't have is your vast linguistic talents. So keep up the great work! Kostolata ( talk) 15:38, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
In your article "Bulgarian Dialects" you use the adjective "glagolic". Isn't the correct form "glagolitic"? Since you are writing about the development of *tj/dj, you may be interested to know that k'/g' are very rare in the Kostur region. For example, in Dambeni and Smardesh, we have "ke" for the future particle. Everything else is шч/ж: къшча, шчерка, свешча, межа, вежа. Kostolata ( talk) 14:41, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Great stuff! Kostolata ( talk) 16:08, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Greetings! Your knowledge of Bulgarian dialects is truly prodigious and I find this article a fascinating read. If it is of any interest to you, "шт/жд" also occur in certain pockets in southwestern Aegean Macedonia. They are found in the southeastern Lerin Dialect along the axis Banitsa-Pətele-Ekshi Su-Zeleniche-Prekopana. They are also found in Dolna Prespa. I have grown up listening to all these dialects. If you want a footnote for Dolna Prespa, I can look it up for you. Cheers! Kostolata ( talk) 18:27, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Greetings! Your knowledge of Bulgarian dialects is truly prodigious and I find this article a fascinating read. If it is of any interest to you, "шт/жд" also occur in certain pockets in southwestern Aegean Macedonia. They are found in the southeastern Lerin Dialect along the axis Banitsa-Pətele-Ekshi Su-Zeleniche-Prekopana. They are also found in Dolna Prespa. I have grown up listening to all these dialects. If you want a footnote for Dolna Prespa, I can look it up for you. Cheers! Kostolata ( talk) 18:28, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for my very first barnstar you gave. Although it is a long article, I didn't spend too much time to reshape those numbers. Compare to you work, my work is trivial :-) - Justin545 ( talk) 02:09, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
I noticed on Talk:Roma in Bulgaria that you had asked a while back whether the U.S. Constitution allows for ethnic parties. It was indeed an interesting question, and I don't know if anyone ever answered it for you. Since the U.S. Constitution was written before the political party system existed in the U.S. (1787), it doesn't even address the concept of political parties. What becomes a question of mine is whether ethnic parties have existed U.S. and run candidates in elections. I suppose ethnic lobby groups in the U.S. substitute for them.
Hi Lantonov, I address to you since you are one of the current Wikipedia majors and also because you are the one who welcomed me to this task.-
Among many articles, I was trying to keep Peter Daicos, the AFL former footballer's one as neat and neutral as possible.- As you may see in the "History" and "Discussions", I have been involved in.- At fist, i have to assume in a sort of "nationalistic" hot headed way, but as you may see in the development I have melted into an informative issue, leaving national POV's aside.
This Daicos chap, happens to be an Australian, hailing from the Macedonia region. Being myself from a Greek extraction, people from Macedonia are either Greeks or Bulgarians for me.- But since the "Macedonian" nation was created I gave up to international consensus.
With this player in particular, it happens that both "Macedonian Slavs"(namely "Aegean") and "Macedonian" Greeks (namely "Slavophones"), claim his belonging.
I tryied to write a neutral article with proper redirections (even against the proper Greek fanatics), where I considered that the "Ethnicity issue" would be useful.
Since the last months I have been chequed by another used (Mactruth) who happens to be a chauvinist, I do not want to end in an Editing War. I think that what he looks for is just political propaganda and/or POV.
I therefore please ask you -if you may- to read the article (with the redirections, editings and discussions) and please set order, so as the article itsef is not denaturalized.
Thank you very much.- Periptero ( talk) 20:22, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Lantonov. I am having a dispute with a few people who feel that the Bulgarian territory's ancient heritage should not be mentioned in the lede. They are also under the impression that it should not be stated that Bulgaria is partly comprised of the regions officially known as Moesia, Thrace and Macedonia, as their argument is that this is too detailed for the lede itself. That however is ironic, as the current lede discusses in far more detail the Stara Planina range, Rodopi range, Rila range, Musala, the Danubian Plain and the Upper Thracian Plain. As you can see, it's not the details that bother them, but rather any information that may somehow be associated with ancient cultures.
I provided numerous examples that the general Wikipedia consensus is that this type of information can be mentioned in the ledes of various modern countries whose territories were once home to ancient civilizations. Some examples are Jordan, Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, Italy, Greece, India, etc... Their argument then became that Bulgaria is not a direct product of the Thracian civilization. I explained that no country today is direct product of an ancient civilization, simply because modern sovereign nation-states did not exist before the Treaty of Westphalia. In other words, it is difficult to quantify the links between antiquity and modernity, although it is undeniable that some traditions that existed in the past are still carried on today. In Bulgaria's example the Kukeri Festival and Martenitsa are a legacy of Thracian rituals. In other words, if this information is to be kept out of the lede, it would mean that it should not be in the ledes of other countries either. That of course made some Greek editors rather defensive.
I listed many other reasons and disproved various hypocritical argumentative points in the talk:Bulgaria discussion page. As a result, their premises shifted repeatedly, always in search of leverage on the matter. Unable to counter my statements effectively, one user has now proclaimed that the article consensus is against me regardless of how objective I may be. The problem it seems is that a few motivated users utilize double standards and dominate edits in the Bulgaria article, while those that may indeed support proper changes and indeed the neutralization of double standards may not even be aware of the discussion. Thus I ask if you may humbly share your opinion. If you have the time, can you please look at the discussion page and share with me your thoughts on the matter. There is a lot of info there and I would appreciate it if you read everything as this would give you a good idea about what has been said. Thank you.-- Monshuai ( talk) 09:15, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
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G'day everyone, the voting for the XIX Coordinator Tranche is at the halfway mark. The candidates have answered various questions, and you can check them out to see why they are running and decide whether you support them. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2018. Thanks, Peacemaker67 ( click to talk to me) 07:36, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi, I saw your contributions on Bianchi classification and was wondering if you could add a few sentences explaining what the Bianchi spaces are in that context? Someone asked about this on the Talk page. Cheers, AxelBoldt ( talk) 23:25, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
G'day all, March Madness 2020 is about to get underway, and there is bling aplenty for those who want to get stuck into the backlog by way of tagging, assessing, updating, adding or improving resources and creating articles. If you haven't already signed up to participate, why not? The more the merrier! Peacemaker67 ( click to talk to me) 08:19, 29 February 2020 (UTC) for the coord team
I reduced the material you added to Roscoea tibetica a bit (although I added a cladogram). We shouldn't really be including this material yet, since there's only a primary source which isn't even the final version. However, it's interesting (to me at least!), and I doubt there will be objections. Peter coxhead ( talk) 15:46, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
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Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. Peacemaker67 ( click to talk to me) 02:05, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
G'day everyone, voting for the 2020 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche is now open. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2020. Thanks from the outgoing coord team, Peacemaker67 ( click to talk to me) 05:18, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
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Re your recent edit at Brunsvigia, see WP:REDLINKS, in particular the third paragraph of the lead section. In the particular case of your edit, it may be justified, because there's a species list later. Also we don't describe all the individual species in genus articles, so quite a bit of the material will, hopefully, eventually be moved to species articles. Peter coxhead ( talk) 10:59, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
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G'day all, the nominations for the 2020 Military history WikiProject newcomer and Historian of the Year are open, all editors are encouraged to nominate candidates for the awards before until 23:59 (GMT) on 15 December 2020, after which voting will occur for 14 days. There is not much time left to nominate worthy recipients, so get to it! Peacemaker67 ( click to talk to me) 06:45, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
G'day all, voting for the WikiProject Military history " Military Historian of the Year" and " Military history newcomer of the year" is about to close, so if you haven't already, click on the links and have your say before 23:59 (GMT) on 30 December! Peacemaker67 ( click to talk to me) 23:35, 28 December 2020 (UTC) for the coord team
Hey y'all, the April 2021 WikiProject Military History Reviewing Drive begins at 00:01 UTC on April 1, 2021 and runs through 23:59 UTC on April 31, 2021. Points can be earned through reviewing articles on the AutoCheck report, reviewing articles listed at WP:MILHIST/ASSESS, reviewing MILHIST-tagged articles at WP:GAN or WP:FAC, and reviewing articles submitted at WP:MILHIST/ACR. Service awards and barnstars are given for set points thresholds, and the top three finishers will receive further awards. To participate, sign up at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_History/April 2021 Reviewing Drive#Participants and create a worklist at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/April 2021 Reviewing Drive/Worklists (examples are given). Further details can be found at the drive page. Questions can be asked at the drive talk page. MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 17:25, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 01:58, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are still open, but not for long. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! No further nominations will be accepted after that time. Voting will commence on 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 02:43, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
Hey y'all, voting for the 2021 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche is now open. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2021. Voting will be conducted at the 2021 tranche page itself. Appropriate questions for the candidates can also be asked. Thanks, MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 04:39, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
Hey y'all, voting for the 2021 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche will be closing soon. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2021. Voting will be conducted at the 2021 tranche page itself. Thanks, MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 02:32, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
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Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are opening in a few hours (00:01 UTC on 1 September). A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 17:51, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
Voting for the upcoming project coordinator election opens in a few hours (00:01 UTC on 15 September) and will last through 23:59 on 28 September. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. Voting is conducted using simple approval voting and questions for the candidates are welcome. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 22:26, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
Just a quick correction to the prior message about the 2022 MILHIST coordinator election! I ( Hog Farm) didn't proofread the message well enough and left out a link to the election page itself in this message. The voting will occur here; sorry about the need for a second message and the inadvertent omission from the prior one. MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 17:41, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
Voting for the upcoming project coordinator election closes soon, at 23:59 on 28 September. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. Voting is conducted using simple approval voting and questions for the candidates are welcome. The voting itself is occurring here If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 20:13, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election have opened. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting will commence on 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 02:05, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
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Voting is now open for the WikiProject Military History newcomer of the year and military historian of the year awards for 2023! The the top editors will be awarded the coveted Gold Wiki . Cast your votes vote here and here respectively. Voting closes at 23:59 on 30 December 2023. On behalf of the coordinators, wishing you the very best for the festive season and the new year. Hawkeye7 ( talk · contribs) via MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 23:56, 22 December 2023 (UTC)