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Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at
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GMG
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14:09, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
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Good to have you back! GirthSummit (blether) 14:12, 24 July 2019 (UTC) |
I am triggered! I love pie but have coeliac :-) Guy ( Help!) 20:37, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
Are you checking the content of the articles you're removing from references? Nemo 07:25, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
I went to Bangalore and while I was there we had a massive issue with the program I was working on, then I was sent to the hospital with a possible heart attack (spoiler: it wasn't). Now I am back to a sane project. Guy ( Help!) 20:30, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
You know that thing where a high profile news story breaks, it affects members of the legislature causing expulsions and resignations and threatens to destabilize a government, we instantly get a bad article edited poorly by loads of people, which goes through at least one round of page protection and possibly AFD, has a current events high traffic editing template notice and a massive talk page, sanctions, AN/I discussions, and U.S./U.K. politics?
None of this happens when the country is India.
I was free to edit without edit conflicts, slowly. The talk page is still red. I happily left out non-information like people being arrested and random vox pops, and didn't have to argue about it. And I stayed several news cycles behind, allowing the dust to settle. It's still in the news a month and a half later, too. There's a Bill that just passed in the Lok Sabha, and there have been knock-on effects on the economy of Hajj travel companies.
Mind you, that fight over a parking space went to AFD. ☺
Hey! Glad you're ok. I bet you're thanking your lucky stars they had good doctors, and none of them publish in a predatory journal.
I can only imagine what it must have been like to be away from home, and have something like that happen.
Atsme
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10:11, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
Hi JzG, Thanks for your edit to Butley Priory this a.m. In quite rightly removing a reference and link to a SPS, you also removed some pukka references which were aggregated under the same reference number. I have reinstated the good refs to verify the information given in the text, but left the SPS out (as I imagine you intended). Hope you approve. Thanks, Eebahgum ( talk) 15:41, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
Two edits to Bequia:
The [Princess Margaret] beach is also known as Tony Gibbons, though the origin of this name is uncertain.
— User:129.97.124.13 2019-01-23T16:31:16
The islands' anthem is considered to be 'Only in Bequia'.
— User:Bequia Foundation 2007-09-25T16:38:53
Which is the verifiable content? The edit by the non-logged-in person who has not edited a talk page? Or the edit by the person with an account who talks on talk pages?
Expand for the answer.
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You are correct. The Princess Margaret Beach verifiably was originally named Tony Gibbons, the name turning up in old 19th century naval references and the story of how it was renamed because Princess Margaret, Countess of Snowdon, once swum there can be found in numerous places, with no-one seemingly having an explanation of who or what Tony Gibbons was. Whereas the logged-in editor with the rôle account representing the Bequia Foundation provided weasel-worded passive-voice content for which there is no source to be found, and whose timing is suspiciously close to when the song was posted to Youtube.
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Uncle G ( talk) 18:52, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
Hello, JzG. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, " List of anti-vaccination tropes".
In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia
mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the {{db-afc}}
, {{db-draft}}
, or {{db-g13}}
code.
If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.
Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Rollidan ( talk) 19:14, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
Hey. I saw your addition on homeopathy and was initially pleased, but I read the source about the French ban and I see nothing other than medical professionals Petitioning that it should be done. Not that any actual decision has been made. Did I miss something? RobP ( talk) 11:03, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
Hello Guy, I'm the user who started the discussion on Talk:TERF that you closed. Are you sure this was the right decision, given that the page is in violation of Wikipedia's policies on neutrality and reliable sources? As the links I've listed show, there are about as many reliable sources that hold the opposite point of view than that which is currently presented as fact on the "TERF" page. There are also political opinion pieces supporting both sides, some of which are used in the article to make statements of fact, whereas the ones I provided for contrast were disregarded with very unkind and hyperbolic remarks. The editors making these remarks have proven themselves to be highly opinionated and emotionally invested in the topic, but their voice seems to be drowning down dissenters because they are several of them and some of them are experienced editors. Thanks in advance for your time and reconsideration of the decision. Rhino ( talk) 16:47, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
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Six years! |
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-- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 06:47, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
I edited your comment here. Nick Humley ( talk) 18:55, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
You have written on the topic before, so you might be interested in commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Bischoff and Rosenbauer, 1988 - Liquid-vapor relations.pdf. Nemo 19:18, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2019).
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Since the introduction of temporary user rights, it is becoming more usual to accord the New Page Reviewer right on a probationary period of 3 to 6 months in the first instance. This avoids rights removal for inactivity at a later stage and enables a review of their work before according the right on a permanent basis.
Hello. I noticed that you deleted the article Rafael Andrade, which was created by a banned user. I worked on the article and checked the information on it, so there was no need for it to be deleted. Is there any way to restore the lost content in any form? -- ThiagoSimoes ( talk) 23:43, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
Hello again JzG, I just wanted to thank you for all you've done here, and I hope you'll be back whenever you decide your break is over. — Paleo Neonate – 05:47, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
![]() | This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2019).
|
|
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at
Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on
edit warring. Thank you.
GMG
talk
14:09, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
![]() |
Good to have you back! GirthSummit (blether) 14:12, 24 July 2019 (UTC) |
I am triggered! I love pie but have coeliac :-) Guy ( Help!) 20:37, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
Are you checking the content of the articles you're removing from references? Nemo 07:25, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
I went to Bangalore and while I was there we had a massive issue with the program I was working on, then I was sent to the hospital with a possible heart attack (spoiler: it wasn't). Now I am back to a sane project. Guy ( Help!) 20:30, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
You know that thing where a high profile news story breaks, it affects members of the legislature causing expulsions and resignations and threatens to destabilize a government, we instantly get a bad article edited poorly by loads of people, which goes through at least one round of page protection and possibly AFD, has a current events high traffic editing template notice and a massive talk page, sanctions, AN/I discussions, and U.S./U.K. politics?
None of this happens when the country is India.
I was free to edit without edit conflicts, slowly. The talk page is still red. I happily left out non-information like people being arrested and random vox pops, and didn't have to argue about it. And I stayed several news cycles behind, allowing the dust to settle. It's still in the news a month and a half later, too. There's a Bill that just passed in the Lok Sabha, and there have been knock-on effects on the economy of Hajj travel companies.
Mind you, that fight over a parking space went to AFD. ☺
Hey! Glad you're ok. I bet you're thanking your lucky stars they had good doctors, and none of them publish in a predatory journal.
I can only imagine what it must have been like to be away from home, and have something like that happen.
Atsme
Talk
📧
10:11, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
Hi JzG, Thanks for your edit to Butley Priory this a.m. In quite rightly removing a reference and link to a SPS, you also removed some pukka references which were aggregated under the same reference number. I have reinstated the good refs to verify the information given in the text, but left the SPS out (as I imagine you intended). Hope you approve. Thanks, Eebahgum ( talk) 15:41, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
Two edits to Bequia:
The [Princess Margaret] beach is also known as Tony Gibbons, though the origin of this name is uncertain.
— User:129.97.124.13 2019-01-23T16:31:16
The islands' anthem is considered to be 'Only in Bequia'.
— User:Bequia Foundation 2007-09-25T16:38:53
Which is the verifiable content? The edit by the non-logged-in person who has not edited a talk page? Or the edit by the person with an account who talks on talk pages?
Expand for the answer.
|
---|
You are correct. The Princess Margaret Beach verifiably was originally named Tony Gibbons, the name turning up in old 19th century naval references and the story of how it was renamed because Princess Margaret, Countess of Snowdon, once swum there can be found in numerous places, with no-one seemingly having an explanation of who or what Tony Gibbons was. Whereas the logged-in editor with the rôle account representing the Bequia Foundation provided weasel-worded passive-voice content for which there is no source to be found, and whose timing is suspiciously close to when the song was posted to Youtube.
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Uncle G ( talk) 18:52, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
Hello, JzG. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, " List of anti-vaccination tropes".
In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia
mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the {{db-afc}}
, {{db-draft}}
, or {{db-g13}}
code.
If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.
Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Rollidan ( talk) 19:14, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
Hey. I saw your addition on homeopathy and was initially pleased, but I read the source about the French ban and I see nothing other than medical professionals Petitioning that it should be done. Not that any actual decision has been made. Did I miss something? RobP ( talk) 11:03, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
Hello Guy, I'm the user who started the discussion on Talk:TERF that you closed. Are you sure this was the right decision, given that the page is in violation of Wikipedia's policies on neutrality and reliable sources? As the links I've listed show, there are about as many reliable sources that hold the opposite point of view than that which is currently presented as fact on the "TERF" page. There are also political opinion pieces supporting both sides, some of which are used in the article to make statements of fact, whereas the ones I provided for contrast were disregarded with very unkind and hyperbolic remarks. The editors making these remarks have proven themselves to be highly opinionated and emotionally invested in the topic, but their voice seems to be drowning down dissenters because they are several of them and some of them are experienced editors. Thanks in advance for your time and reconsideration of the decision. Rhino ( talk) 16:47, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
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Six years! |
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-- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 06:47, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
I edited your comment here. Nick Humley ( talk) 18:55, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
You have written on the topic before, so you might be interested in commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Bischoff and Rosenbauer, 1988 - Liquid-vapor relations.pdf. Nemo 19:18, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2019).
|
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|
Since the introduction of temporary user rights, it is becoming more usual to accord the New Page Reviewer right on a probationary period of 3 to 6 months in the first instance. This avoids rights removal for inactivity at a later stage and enables a review of their work before according the right on a permanent basis.
Hello. I noticed that you deleted the article Rafael Andrade, which was created by a banned user. I worked on the article and checked the information on it, so there was no need for it to be deleted. Is there any way to restore the lost content in any form? -- ThiagoSimoes ( talk) 23:43, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
Hello again JzG, I just wanted to thank you for all you've done here, and I hope you'll be back whenever you decide your break is over. — Paleo Neonate – 05:47, 27 March 2019 (UTC)