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Thank you for all your work on school articles. It hasn't gone unnoticed. Time perhaps to list you as an official coordinator of WP:WPSCH. . -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 00:53, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Ty! I'd be honored. John from Idegon ( talk) 00:54, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

 Done - that also evens the score a bit from us Limeys ruling the roost! -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 11:04, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

John, be sure to have this page: Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools/Article alerts on your watchlist. The bot runs every 24 hours and will automatically inform you of major maintenance tags affecting school article. If you then see an item on a report that needs addressing, you can do it, vote on an Afd, or remove a POD, help on an GA/FA, etc. If something needs admin action you can let me know. -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 15:16, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

With all due respect, are you reading the edit summary? Colleen O'Shaughnessey and Colleen Villard are the same person; O'Shaughnessey changed her name following her marriage and is now credited under her married name of Villard, as seen in recent series she's appeared in such as Sonic Boom. If you click the O'Shaughnessey link, you go to the Villard article; that redirect has been in place for almost a year. I'm not removing content, nor is this a case of adding uncited material. This is replacing a redirect with a direct link to the exact same content and nothing more. -- 68.37.227.226 ( talk) 01:11, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

I would pose the same question to you. I've stated in the edit summary that the problem is there is no referenced content in her bio tying her to Grand Rapids. Notability is proven by the existence of the biographical article; tie to the community must be shown by reference, either in her bio or on the list. -- John from Idegon ( talk) 01:19, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

All three of the external links present on her page tie her to Grand Rapids. Even if they're not used as in-line citations, they're still on her page and clearly labeled. -- 68.37.227.226 ( talk) 01:24, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

None of those links are reliable sources. Please read WP:RS and WP:NLIST. -- John from Idegon ( talk) 01:40, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

The warning on my talk page was uncalled for. You asked me to provide a source, so I tried to find one as you suggested, and went with one that I saw cited on other Wikipedia pages, assuming it was considered acceptable. I haven't violated 3RR either, so I'd appreciate a little more recognition of good faith. -- 68.37.227.226 ( talk) 04:12, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Hey there! Remember way back in May when you supported Gene93k to be Editor of the Week? He was finally presented with the award this week. It looks as if Buster tried to ping those of us who nominated or supported him, but the ping didn't work (at least in my case). You may want to go to Gene's talk page and congratulate him. MelanieN ( talk) 16:08, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi! Your comment on my addition to notable people from Huntsville was very quick. The page on Mark Hanna Watkins is now created and he was indeed a notable person. Margaret Wade-Lewis in her article about Watkins writes: "Watkins’s journey through life was a historic one. He was a first in a number of ways—one of the first known black Americans to receive a PhD in anthropology (Moses 1999:85–100), the first American to write a grammar of an African language, the first anthropologist to participate in the creation of an African studies program in the United States, and the first black member of many professional organizations, among them the Society of the Sigma Xi.≤ He was one of the founding fathers of anthropology and linguistics in America." Kanjuzi ( talk) 20:42, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

So might I suggest the better procedure ongoing might be to create the article first, then add the individual to notable lists? This avoids wasting all the time this took both of us! Happy editing. John from Idegon ( talk) 21:06, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

It was about a military thing, so I think it should be left. ThisGuyIsGreat ( talk) 01:06, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

So what policy, guideline or reliable secondary source supports your action? John from Idegon ( talk) 01:13, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

I just think any military article should have a place. ThisGuyIsGreat ( talk) 01:21, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

You are new. You need to understand something. I'll say this as nicely as I can, but it is something you need to know. No one here cares what either you or I "think". Everything that is here is based on the three things named above. Opinion may be your "why", but unless you can mount an arguement based on one of those three things, no one will care. This is an encyclopedia, not a blog. John from Idegon ( talk) 01:29, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Dude, Im not trying to start an edit war. Can we just leave it at what I wrote? ThisGuyIsGreat ( talk) 02:08, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

No. None of the achievements are encyclopedic. Until I can find a place to write the unit's existence in in a different place in the article, I will leave the section there. John from Idegon ( talk) 02:32, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

I've undone your redirect of Gabriela Mistral Elementary School for several reasons:

• I believe your lack of notability claim to be incorrect. A school being created in this area in 2015 because it was masking a failing school of low socioeconomic population is notable and significant in this area.
• You made a redirect to the school district page and made no effort to preserve any of the work that went into creating the school page.
• The page is under active construction (check the edit history and you'll see that I'm building it up a piece at a time), and also making sure that everything is properly sourced and attributed. Saying that it doesn't meet content guidelines when new sections were added as recently as yesterday seems a bit excessive.

Given that you could see that edits were happening frequently to the page, deleting the page without discussing it on talk seems really quite rude.

jbailey ( talk) 13:49, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

 Done Thanks - for everyone else, followups to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gabriela Mistral Elementary School

I have greatly appreciated your efforts to upgrade the many Texas school articles out there (including mine) and hope that I can do likewise as you have. I am still learning about what counts and what does not so in time, I hope to be able to create/maintain good quality school articles. Thanks! Indyjrg1762 ( talk) 03:15, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Schools are a very mundane subject. Unfortunately, school articles tend to get bloated with stuff that is really only important or useful to people connected to the school. That's not what we are looking for. Outside of wiki-notable people, the only name in the article should be the principal (if the school is named after a person a very brief bit on that person would also be useful). I hope you have found the guidelines for school articles at WP:SCH/AG. Things that are decidedly different are most always good. Things that every school has? Don't bother. If I can help, just holler. John from Idegon ( talk) 05:17, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Good morning, John. You can rest assured that I did not simply reinsert the text in the North Bay, Ontario Wikipedia article. I left an explanation with the person who deleted it as to why I reinserted the text, as follows:

"Hello. I have reinserted the text I added to the City of North Bay, Ontario,'s Wiki page, yesterday. I appreciate why you decided to delete the text. However the information about the 228th Battalion NHA hockey team was obtained during research this summer into Canadian Army units from North Bay that fought in the First World War, for the city's museum. When we--the group gathering information for the museum--learned of the team, I contacted the Hockey Hall of Fame, in Toronto--the national repository for documents, artifacts and photographs about hockey in North America--who supplied us with material about the team. That the 228th Battalion had a team in the National Hockey Association, forerunner of the National Hockey League, is an extraordinary event in the city's history. Imagine, say, if a United States Army battalion from Peoria or Manassas had supplied a winning team to baseball's National League, how significant that would be in the community's history.

That said, I shall edit the reference to make its source clearer, that this wasn't an arbitrary insertion of text."

I subsequently made the change to reference explanation, to elaborate where the information came from. When it comes to North American hockey there isn't a better source than the Hockey Hall of Fame. I appreciate that the initial removal of text was made in good faith, however a more tactful approach would have been to request more detailed information from me about the source rather than an outright deletion. I will--and have--happily amend my material and work with fellow Wikipedia contributors and editors, to ensure my contributions conform to everyone's satisfaction.

I offer this to you genuinely, also in good faith, and without sarcasm: I would like to reinsert the text with its elaborated reference into the article.

22WHERO ( talk) 15:52, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Copy all, your last message. I shall work on gathering the source details.

Thanks.

Regarding your most recent message, the tip: excellent! Thanks again.

22WHERO ( talk) 16:35, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

I am sorry john but there is no source for this information but it is true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hello bigman ( talk • contribs) 00:09, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

We were creating a biography in a wrong page, at some point we got an opportunity support from Mr. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RHaworth As he activated the speedy deletion to explain and properly provide documents of the article and why we believe this page is worthy to publish. While we take some time to collect the information the speedy deletion option was canceled, now we cannot access or continue the page because the username or page was deleted.

What can be done in this case? We sent documents and links of information but he is negligence to assist. Is there any options for this?

Please help us. Thanks! Luislaaglobal ( talk) 15:18, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

The reason I revised the deletion about the Port Neches-Groves rivalry is that the rivalry is the biggest thing in these two towns everyone knows what it is. It is called "Mid-County Madness" the rivalry has been a tradition at the school since the 1950's and if you look on Port Neches-Groves high school wiki page it will have almost the exact same statement about "Mid-County Madness". And the reason I added the assistant principals is because at nhs the assistant principals are who make the whole school run they deserve to be named along side the principal. Back to the midcounty madness, this rivalry is the biggest and most important event in both schools to occor all year and anyone looking up these two schools should know about it. It is what defines this school. Noah from Nederland ( talk) 03:42, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

I appreciate your fervor. If you can find references showing the rivalry has attracted notice outside the immediate area of the two schools, you are welcome to expand on the statement that the two schools are rivals, using material paraphrased from the sources you find and citing those sources. However, including scores, won-lost records or any names are all out of guidelines. Similarly, unless you can show that the rivalry has attracted notice outside the two communities, it is doubtful that it is as defining as you think it is. You are obviously close to the subject, and if you cannot understand what I am trying to tell you, perhaps you are too close to the subject to write about it in the neutral dispassionate manner that an encyclopedia requires. We don't use any staff names at all in any school article, excepting the person in charge, be they called principal, headmaster or right vicar of leftsburg. We also include names of individuals who are notable enough to qualify for a biography on Wikipedia. No other student or staff names should ever be used. Will you find articles where they are? Sure. There are almost 5 million articles on English Wikipedia, all written and maintained by volunteers. Things get fixed when they get fixed. I'll clean up the other school's article sometime soon. Again, and I can't say this enough, this is not the school's page on Wikipedia. It is Wikipedia's article on the school. What people connected to the school think is important about it is not how we decide what to include. We include what those completely independent of the school think is important enough to have made note of in reliable published sources. John from Idegon ( talk) 05:12, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

I love this one [1], done by you. 'Still nerds improvement'. Cheers! ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:47, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello, I was wondering about my edit that you reverted. I believe that it was about the current enrollment of the school. I attend the school, and that is information straight from the registrar. Is there any way to cite that? Thanks. Governor Thomas Johnson High School Wages444 ( talk) 15:11, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Wages. The short answer is no. The longer answer is, everything on Wikipedia must come from an already published source. You cannot use anything you know or find out directly such as by interviewing someone. Encyclopedias are tertiary sources--that's all encyclopedias, not just Wikipedia. That means the material contained in them must come from secondary sources, such as books, magazines, newspapers, reliable websites, or in this case, the government. The best source for enrollment numbers is NCES. There you will find not only the enrollment, but the demographic breakdown, the number of teachers and the student to teacher ratio. If you need help actually citing a reference, instructions can be found at Referencing for beginners. Feel free to stop back with any questions I can help you with. Thanks. John from Idegon ( talk) 15:27, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello. The Maryland State Department of Education has enrollment numbers that are in line with our registrar. Is it fine to use those numbers instead? Also, what should I do about the NJROTC edit that you reverted about the school? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wages444 ( talk • contribs) 15:55, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

The state DOE is fine, but you need to cite it so oothers can find the source info you are using. As far as the NROTC unit goes, mentioning its existence is fine. However, there is no need to name any names, describe what they do or mention the achievements they have made. We only discuss achievements that reach the level of state or national championships. Unit citations are not that. John from Idegon ( talk) 16:13, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello, I had a dispute with another user a few months ago about the usage of the school district infobox template that you interceded in. I started a discussion on the template's talk page, and the group that discussed the dispute came to the agreement that we should change the usage policy to allow for my edits, which we did. Since that time, I resumed contributing infoboxes to the pages where I had been before, and the user that I had the original dispute with has since removed some of them. I don't want to be blocked and I don't want to edit war, but this seems unfair. I don't know what you can do about this, but since you are an editor, I would hope there is something you can do. - User:Jajhill ( talk), 23:43, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

I was the other editor. User:Jajhill is correct. There was a discussion here which I wasn't following where a consensus was reached to allow school district infoboxes to be placed onto city articles. The language around the usage of the infobox still isn't clear on the template page though. I wonder if there needs to be some overall decision made about template use on city articles. I seem to recall that fire department infoboxes on city articles were outlawed, but National Register of Historic Place templates are included. I may start a discussion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline. Cheers. Magnolia677 ( talk) 02:04, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

I would endorse that. It would have been nice if the other editor would have informed us of that discussion as he was aware we had an interest in it. As a matter of fact, I'd say that whatever consensus that was reached there is less than valid. If and when you start that discussion, please place,a notification at WT:WPSCH. By the way, I am now one of the coordinators there. The template in question is one of ours. John from Idegon ( talk) 04:25, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Upon further investigation, there was nothing resembling a clear consensus to change the language, and the change was implemented by a newer editor who is still learning the weight of discussions on something as far reaching as templates. John from Idegon ( talk) 04:35, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Magnolia, on second thought, rather than spread things everywhere, I'll be posting notice of the discussion at WT:WPSCH and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities. It would be best to just continue the ongoing discussion, IMO. John from Idegon ( talk) 17:42, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

KIC 8462852 has two YouTube videos listed as external links. Take them down as you did mine -I don't have the nous. kencf0618 ( talk) 22:51, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

I have no idea what you are talking about, and I am under no obligation to do anything for anyone here. Please correspond with me in English or don't correspond. Also, if you want me to look at a specific article, please provide a link. John from Idegon ( talk) 23:09, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Would you have a moment to look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bellevue, Mississippi. Whether you agree or disagree with the deletion, it needs some expertise. Thanks. Magnolia677 ( talk) 22:20, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

John, saw your comment on my addition and created a section on the Gary, Indiana talk page. Would love more input from you there. Aschuet1 ( talk) 17:51, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up, John. I trust you will perform the merger. Best, -- Sam Sailor ^Talk! 16:46, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Later today. Kinda awkward to do from my phone. Thanks, Sam. John from Idegon ( talk) 17:02, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

You are one of two editors reverting this IP editor. I don't know the subject, I don't know who is right. There are two other pages to be verified. Xx236 ( talk) 08:03, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi -- I'm User:0xF8E8, an editor working on the Barrington High School (Rhode Island) article. You removed some of the information I added (mainly pertaining to the schedule) under the summary "not encyclopedic", and I don't understand why such would be the case. I intended to follow a similar direction to the beginning of the academics section at Amador Valley High School, which begins in a manner almost identically to the information I had included in the page. However, I admit that I'm fairly new to this project in general, and it's certainly possible I may be overlooking something. Could you clarify why you removed the information? 0xF8E8 ( talk) 00:34, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

The guidelines for school articles ( WP:SCH/AG) tell us we shouldn't discuss subjects that are primarily of interest to the school community and goes on to give as an example, class schedules. Most maintenance of articles is triggered by new edits (articles show up on your watch list only when they are changed.) That's why it got removed from one article and not another. There are almost 5 million articles on English Wikipedia! All are written and maintained by volunteers like me and you. John from Idegon ( talk) 02:50, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I had overlooked that part of the guidelines, and I do understand a bit better now where you're coming from. But I'm still a bit confused in this specific incident -- I understand that detailing the specific bell schedule is unencylcopedic and isn't information for a Wikipedia page, but I was merely describing how the school operates schedule-wise -- not the specific schedule, period-by-period (which I'm unclear of the status of now). The reason I mention Amador Valley High School is because I had intended to use it as a bit of a model; it is, after all, a featured article, and I'd presume it still meets the criteria outlined by Wikipedia:Wikiproject Schools. I tried to, as on the Amador Valley page, describe information that would be of importance to an outsider (the fact that it has rotating schedule, time open) while not giving specifics (day 1's periods, etc.) Is there something I'm missing here? I don't quite understand. 0xF8E8 ( talk) 03:13, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

The specifics of the schedule, whether times are included or not, make no difference to an outsider. The difference Between Amador and Barrington is quite evident. There are over 200 sources on Amador with lots of very solid content. The odds of finding that much on Barrington is about zilch. When there is as much going on as at Amador, a small amount of mundane can be overlooked. Besides, there was something quite unique in their schedule--brunch! Block scheduling like at Barrington is not unusual at all. They had it in my alma mater in Indiana over 40 years ago. The good news is I looked at Barrington closely just now and raised its quality rating from stub to C, jumping over 1 level. The things that make a school article better is stuff with outside sources. Barrington has quite a few. Keep up the good work. Just keep in mind, really strong school articles like Amador are quite rare. Very few school articles will ever be better than start class. Barrington already is. Thanks! John from Idegon ( talk) 03:46, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello. Can I please receive a fuller explanation for the revert? The see also I added seems to me to be perfectly applicable, as people from a high school are also people from the metropolitan area. What am I missing? Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 22:05, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

It seems quite obvious to me that although your statement is true, the converse is not. Only a small potion of the people from Louisville have any connection to this school and the ones that do should be on the list you added the see also to. John from Idegon ( talk) 22:25, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

See also's are for directing readers to a related topic, in this case a more expansive topic, jumping from People from a high school to People from the metropolitan area that high school is located in. I don't see the necessity for a converse rule -- I've never heard of that -- could you point me to a guideline that spells this out? At any rate, the metro area level article doesn't have a see also back into the school article for expressly the concern you note. Also, if there is anyone on the alumni list not on the metro area list, they are certainly subject to be added to that list. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 22:37, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

See also sections and templates are to guide a reader to some article where they can learn more about the subject of the article they are reading. Knowing a that a random person is from Louisville does absolutely nothing to increase ones knowledge of this school. I cannot point to a policy on this except for WP:COMMONSENSE. John from Idegon ( talk) 23:35, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

But that's not the only reason See also's are used. They are also for subjects related to the article or the section in some way, depending on where it's placed. As I've explained, there is an obvious connection, from a smaller set of Louisville area people to a larger set. This is common in the Wikipedia, and common sense. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 23:38, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

OK, well, it looks like I'm going to have to look for some kind of third-party process to resolve this. I have used a See also in the normal Wikipedia manner, but you don't agree with that. So, we're going to have to have third parties resolve it. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 00:53, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Or here's a thought. You could start a discussion on the article's talk page and actually get a consensus. John from Idegon ( talk) 01:00, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

It will have to be a process that draws people from around the Wikipedia, as this is a basic question about See also's, whereas my understanding about related articles from being a Wikipedian a long time is in conflict with the non-guideline rules you are establishing here. Besides, these school articles are not watched much. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 01:07, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Please start an RfC, by all means. By your logic, the government section of every settlement article should be headed with see also templates directing the reader to the county and state's article's government section; every article on Christianity should start with a see also template leading to Jesus Christ and to the Bible. If an individual were looking for info on people from Louisville, they would be looking at the city's article, not an individual high school. Same goes for all the settlement articles you added it to. It does not belong. As I said before, I doubt there is a policy for this. Its a bit to nonsensical to make a policy over. John from Idegon ( talk) 02:34, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Hey remember, you mentioned in Super-5 article that there is not notable references so i am mentioning here a reference link and will request to keep that page in WIKI and give your blessings to Super5. Published Article about Super 5: http://jaago.indiaonline.in/Super-5-13511 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sachans9 ( talk • contribs) 01:28, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

That's a blog and says nothing to notability. Please confine your discussion of this issue to the AfD. I will be adding a template there stating editors are canvassing against policy off wiki. Thank you. John from Idegon ( talk) 02:18, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Nancass:

Hello John, Not sure how to “talk.” Here are the copied details concerning the question I have:

I wish to add the following Notable Alumni to George Walton Comprehensive High School: Shelli Poole (2000), Houseguest on Big Brother17 Reality Show

“She’s not notable” is listed as the reason it was reverted by you, but she is listed as "notable" on Wikipedia here: /info/en/?search=List_of_Big_Brother_17_Houseguests_(U.S.)#Shelli

Below is the information concerning this edit. Thanks.

Revision as of 23:24, 30 September 2015 (edit) Nancass (talk | contribs) m (→‎Notable alumni: *Shelli Poole (2000), Big Brother17 HouseGuest, Trivia:Crowned Miss Raider 1999 while student at Walton. ^[1])

Revision as of 23:42, 30 September 2015 (edit) (undo) (thank) John from Idegon (talk | contribs) (Reverted 1 edit by Nancass (talk): She's not notable. . (TW)) Next edit →

( Nancass ( talk) 21:26, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Nancass. The fact that the person you want to add is on a list of people participating in a reality show, rather than having an article of her own, indicates that she does not qualify as "notable" in the sense that Wikipedia uses the term. Hence, you cannot add her to that list. John from Idegon ( talk) 21:36, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Edit of Meriden ct new to Wikipedia editing edited the hall of fame listing and tagged the passage that dictated important people of Meriden and was removed on what grounds tagged website received info from Firemedic819 ( talk) 03:51, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

I have no idea what you are trying to ask. Is English not your native tounge? Competence in English is required to edit here. Looking at your edit history, I assume you are curious as to why I removed your entry of a Mr. Hunter to the "Notable people" section of the article you named above? Being in a local hall of fame does not make a person notable in the manner the term is used on Wikipedia. Here, notability refers to our standard for having an article on Wikipedia. The standard for being on a notable people list is the same as for having an article. The director of a local ambulance service would most likely not qualify, and even if he did, you would need to prove that by citing enough reliable independent sources to show that he did. John from Idegon ( talk) 04:20, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Dear John, as you mentioned, I have tried to remove the materials which would look promotional. Please review the page and help me with that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edito Freak ( talk • contribs) 08:24, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Not interested in helping you at all. Read WP:TOS and comply with it immediately, and do not come to my talk page again unless posting a mandatory notice. -- John from Idegon ( talk) 08:32, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Dear John, This is regarding deleting UAS International Trip Support page, I’m attempting to specialize in writing about aviation- particularly business aviation. This company UAS have greatly increased their size and educational CSR initiatives recently so think this is a good subject for complete page. Please let me know what you think.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashley Locksley ( talk • contribs) 09:47, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello. You have a new message at Kudpung's talk page. 12:11, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

I disagree with your removal of my 75 pixel pic of Nellie Fox at Chambersburg, Pennsylvania along with the other small pix in the "notable residents" section. Sure, it's not the usual place to put pix, but I think it is a good place. It's probably been there about 8 years. I don't think anybody has objected before, and IMHO it improves the encyclopedia. I'll suggest putting an RfC on the talk page if you really want to remove the pix. Minor point, Berlin has a Pennsylvania State Historical Marker (footnoted there) and invented the railroad sleeping car, so I'd like to leave that in too. So I'll revert you for now, and hope that you object we can handle this with an RfC. Sincerely, Smallbones_{( smalltalk)} 22:48, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

The edits about his allegations are no BLP violation. Please read here WP:WELLKNOWN Luckydhaliwal ( talk) 21:54, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

You are incorrect. Discuss content issues on the article talk page. There is no need foo you to post here. John from Idegon ( talk) 22:03, 31 October 2015 (UTC)