On December 10th, the IUCN updated 8,225 species assessments, including 6,722 that were added to the list for the first time. All eucalypt species have officially been evaluated by the IUCN with this update. Several birds were newly declared extinct (
poʻouli,
cryptic treehunter,
Alagoas foliage-gleaner) and one declared extinct in the wild (
Spix's macaw). The official press release is
here.
Sign-ups are open for the
2020 WikiCup, a months-long competition where editors score points by improving articles. Sign-ups are open through 31 January.
The Tree of Life was featured in The Signpost as a
WikiProject report, eight years after it was
last featured. This marked the return of the WikiProject report after a year hiatus.
Editor Spotlight: Plantdrew
We're joined this month by long-time editor Plantdrew, who's currently engaged in streamlining the taxonomic structure of Wikipedia articles via the
automated taxobox system.
How did you become a Wikipedian? What are your particular interests (besides the obvious of "plants")?
My first job out of school in was working for
ITIS; entering new species, mostly fish. At that time, ITIS was the single largest taxonomic database, and I was enthusiastic about the prospects for the eventual completion of a comprehensive global taxonomic resource. I moved on to other things, and fews years later I became aware of Wikipedia and eventually Wikispecies. At that time (~2007), It seemed to me that Wikispecies might be the best prospect for a comprehensive global taxonomic resource. ITIS had a team of 5 data developers when I worked there, while Wikispecies had a substantially larger editor base and was growing faster than ITIS (although still smaller than ITIS). I did a little bit of editing at Wikispecies at that point, but stopped after being frustrated that a project that easily could have been a structured database had little consensus for any particular standards or structures.
As Wikipedia grew, I found myself using it more and more as a reference. Eventually I started making occasional editing as an IP to fix errors I noticed. I finally registered an account when I needed to create an article; there was an article purportedly about an insect genus, but all the information pertained to a particular species, so I created an article for the species and moved information there. I started finding more cases where Wikipedia was conflating different topics; plant product derived from multiple species with a taxobox for one species, the common name for a fairly well known fruit needing disambiguation against an obscure French town. At that point I was hooked and started making more substantial contributions. It also was apparent that while the English Wikipedia might not outpace Wikispecies in article count, it had better representation of organisms that more people were interested in, and was attracting far more readers. For the first few years I was active, I focused on adding redirects for (unambigous)) vernacular names, and resolving ambiguous vernacular names.
Aside from plants, I'm interested in slime molds, fungi, and various sessile and slow-moving animals (I like things that can be observed without them running away). I've had some short term work experience with fishes (ITIS), mammals, birds and insects.
What projects are keeping you busy around the 'pedia at present?
Well, I'm not much of a content creator. I mostly do gnomish edits.
Every day, I try to look through the all the new articles for the ToL subprojects that have new article reports set up (which reminds me, we should really get a ToL-wide new article report going). Many new articles are created by experienced ToL editors whose names I recognize, and I don't do much to check their work. For unfamiliar editors, I tag articles for the appropriate WikiProject, and check for formatting, grammar, etc. A couple years ago, I was just about the only person checking new ToL articles, but recently other ToL editors have stepped up.
Since early 2017, my main project has been converting manual taxoboxes to automatic taxoboxes. That has me going through articles systematically, and since I'm editing them anyway there are a bunch of other changes I make as necessary. Checking that classification is up-to-date, standardizing formatting, adding inline citations, refining categories, adding images if any are available on Commons, adding additional IDs to taxonbars in cases of monotypy, creating/categorizing redirects. I've slowly been working through plant articles, with occasional forays into other groups of organisms. Some of these tasks weren't part of my work flow when I first started, and there are some tasks that I could be doing, but haven't bothered with (short descriptions, certain types of categories). I expect it'll take about another year for me to finish up with plant automatic taxoboxes, and then I'm sure I'll have to find something else to do.
What's your favorite plant?
I couldn't pick just one. Pseudotsuga is the dominant tree where I grew up, and it always makes me happy to be back in a Douglas fir forest. Asimina triloba is my favorite wild edible plant that grows where I live now. I studied Berberis thunbergii as an invasive species in grad school, and have a love/hate relationship with it now (mostly hate, but it remains interesting).
Belgian endive is my favorite vegetable without a Wikipedia article. I'm fond of
Lamiaceae in general, and while many species are used as herbs, I'm particularly interested in mints with other uses; Salvia hispanica as a pseudo-cereal, Plectranthus rotundifolius as a root crop, and Salvia divinorum as psychoactive plant with mysterious origins (is it a cultigen?).
What's your background like? How did you come to have a special interest in biology?
I grew up in a rural area and spent a lot of time playing in the woods and working in the garden, so I interacted a lot with plants as a child. My mother's parents were (insect) taxonomists (and a great-grandparent had a keen interest in natural history). My mother was pretty comfortable with scientific names, and after my parents settled in a part of the country with many plants they hadn't been familiar with, she learned the new plants by scientific names. I knew a bunch of plants by scientific names from an early age long before I realized that other people had different names for them. When I was a little older I became interested in edible wild plants. I remained interested in plants in general, and when I was in college and discovered the discipline of ethnobotany, which really tied together the general botany side of my interests with the edible plant side.
What's something that would surprised TOL editors about your life off-wiki?
Birders have
life lists of species they've seen. I have a life list of plant species I've eaten. I enjoy shopping at international grocery stores, looking for new plants to try (or different preparations of unusual plants I've already tried). I've made two trips to a city 5 hours away just to shop at a store that I'm pretty sure is the largest international grocery store in the United States. My best Christmas gift this year was a box with little sample packs of 14 different species of dried fruits and herbs from Australia. I'd prefer to try the fruits fresh, but without making a trip to Australia, this is my best opportunity to try some of the major bushfoods.
Anything else you'd like us to know?
Editing Wikipedia has been a rewarding hobby for me, and although I haven't done a lot of direct collaboration with other editors, the ToL community seems pretty friendly and relatively conflict free. ToL is a good bunch of people.
December DYKs
Member of genus Chrysomya
Mekong Bobtail
... that the tapping sound of the deathwatch beetle has long been considered an omen of an impending death? (1 December)
... that Chinese virologist George F. Gao led a test laboratory in Sierra Leone during the peak of the
2014 Ebola outbreak? (1 December)
... that the chirps of the snowy tree cricket can be used to estimate the temperature? (2 December)
... that research on
pain in fish by Victoria Braithwaite resulted in new rules in the UK, Europe, and Canada to make fisheries more humane? (2 December)
... that plant physiologist Hu Dujing cultivated Eucommia ulmoides to produce a substitute for rubber? (3 December)
... that Rhagoletis juglandis is a species of fly that infests walnuts? (3 December)
... that the granulate ambrosia beetle is native to Asia but has spread as an invasive species to Africa, the Americas, Europe, and Oceania? (5 December)
... that the Peleng tarsier, a small carnivorous
primate, can rotate its head nearly 180 degrees in either direction? (7 December)
... that infestations of the cotton jassid can be reduced by growing a cotton cultivar with hairy leaves? (14 December)
... that Coelopa pilipes fly populations can live at temperatures of 40 °C (104 °F) within piles of
kelp, even in areas covered with snow and ice? (18 December)
... that Hirtodrosophila mycetophaga mate on
bracket fungi, selectively choosing those with a lighter surface to enhance the visibility of their courtship displays? (19 December)
... that after laying its eggs on a leaf, the female mango leaf-cutting weevil severs the leaf near its base and lets it fall to the ground? (30 December)
Resolver allows you to quickly find an item based on a property+value string pair. It is especially useful for checking whether an external identifier such as a VIAF ID (P214) or Getty AAT ID (P1014) is already in use in Wikidata.
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UnitedStatesian (
talk)
03:43, 7 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Oops
Oops, sorry, clobbered that user with a warning after you'd already posted a welcome/warning message. Misread the date and thought it must be a serial offender.
Laterthanyouthink (
talk)
07:28, 11 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Hi there, i wonder if you could help me out with a editing problem on the wikipedia article
Proclamation of Indonesian Independence. The person
Bluesatellite is rewriting the article again and again and is erasing sources which does not match the vison of the Indonesian government in which it is told that the world accepted Indonesian independence in 1945. All the sources tell 1949, but Bluesatellite is erasing all these sources with from the Indonesian government or Indonesian articles. I used Newspapers and UN sources to provide sources which support a neutral vision, but everytime it's erased. Could you be of some help?
Tabernacle creates a tabular view of a set of data items from a SPARQL query, PagePile list, or manual list of items. You can select which languages and properties to display. The tool lets you drag-and-drop statements from one item to another, and manually add or edit statements without leaving the page. Tabernacle is great for harmonizing a set of related items or identifying items that need their labels and descriptions translated.
Thanks for your message, and hope all is well with you and yours
Hi @
JarrahTree: and thank you for
your message. Yep, I am alive/well/comprehending and so on. I am quite aware that my edits reflect a rather idiosyncratic take on... pretty much everything. As for my additions of ISBNs to the
Peter Corris, I partially agree that it was "unsightly and unhelpful". Maybe we should have created articles for those books? Pete AU aka --
Shirt58 (
talk)
12:24, 15 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Re: there indeed is a story
Oh yes, there really is! If I were ever in that area again I'd love to go there ... if only to harass the guy who owns it about weather records, lol ... Graham8714:17, 16 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Lead sentences
FYI, most decent articles tend to start with something like (for example) "...is an Australian politician. He was a [party] member of the [parliament] from [year] to [year], representing [seat]. It might be worth mentioning more often for federal MPs, for example, "...representing the New South Wales seat of [seat name], but for state MPs its a given as long as someone thinks to mention the parliament in the lead section.
The Drover's Wife (
talk)
02:26, 18 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Upcoming: next
Wikidata office hour, January 22nd, at 17:00 UTC (18:00 UTC+1), on the
Wikidata Telegram channel. Topics: presenting the roadmap for 2020 and some news from the development team
Tool of the week
The
Wikidata Card Game Generator generates printable cards based on a topic (eg chemical elements) and some statements of the item.
Other Noteworthy Stuff
New gadget added to Preferences, "Show UnpatrolledEdits" (see
discussion): it shows if the last edit to the item has not been patrolled
Pywikibot deprecates Python 2 support. Any scripts running via Python 2 should be migrated soon, see more at
[1]
The next Weekly Summary (January 27) will be the issue #400. Please
help us collecting interesting Wikidata-related facts around the number 400!
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UnitedStatesian (
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19:36, 21 January 2020 (UTC)reply
AfD
Eh, it's pretty easy for these kinds of articles to stick around for ages: random foreigners will see the "college" and assume notability even with a crap article and probably wouldn't come across something linked from an industrial estate suburb article anyway. (It's interesting Wikipedians' preconceptions about this stuff - the last time we had one of these private providers with no sources nominated for deletion we had to have a real argument to get it deleted (because people think "ooh, college"), but we have to fight to keep
Merivale (company) despite the fact it's a billion-dollar business that became notable a good thirty years before I was born).
The Drover's Wife (
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12:22, 22 January 2020 (UTC)reply
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UnitedStatesian (
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17:12, 24 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Back
Just archived my talk page including your message. Back virus free (as far as I can tell) although the surgical mask was very popular at Singapore Airport. Will be attempting to help knock off the last of the biota list in the next few week. Trust all is well.
Hughesdarren (
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09:01, 27 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Wikidata weekly summary #400
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
Welcome to the 400th Weekly Summary! Here are some interesting Wikidata facts or queries collected by the community and related to the number 400:
Item #400 is
Jenna Jameson; Property #400 is
platform (software), and Lexeme #400 is "
vierhonderd" - Dutch for "four hundred". The QID for the natural number 400 is
Q1535396. The QID for the year 400 is
Q25621.
The Greek philosopher
Hypatia, one of the first women scientists, became head of the Neo-Platonist school at Alexandria, in 400 AD. We include her here in tribute to those working to reduce Wikidata's gender gap.
Duplicate Item copies the current item (without descriptions or sitelinks) to a new item. This tool is useful for splitting items and for making sets of similar items. Recommended for experienced users.
Yeah ... and there's the small matter of the "Mc" in his surname ... and what comes up when you Google ""Neil McNeil" ballarat, like
this. Graham8703:03, 31 January 2020 (UTC)reply
VizQuery allows you to use the Wikidata Query Service without having to know SPARQL. Simply use a couple of autocomplete input boxes and you can do most basic queries.
Other Noteworthy Stuff
Bruno and
Denny present how to use
Lexical Masks in ShEx to validate lexemes, including a first set of example schemata. They also invite everyone to work on more languages, and will keep adding more ShEx schema over time.
In a major milestone for the
automated taxobox system, more taxa articles now use automatic taxoboxes than manual ones. Particularly robust groups for automatic taxoboxes are turtles, primates, birds, rodents, amphibians and reptiles, sharks, and bivalves, with each project adopting automatic taxoboxes at rates greater than 95%. Only the fungi, arthropods, and microbiology projects had automatic taxobox adoption rates less than 25%. Read more in the
1 January update.
Thanks to user Trappist the monk, all citations to the IUCN using
Template:Cite web or
Template:Cite journal have now been swapped to
Template:Cite iucn. This will prevent a recurrence of massive link failure should the IUCN change its URL format again. That does not address the
14.5k articles that cite the IUCN without the use of templates. For more background discussion, see
here and
here.
Vital Articles
The
vital articles project on English Wikipedia began in 2004 when an editor transferred a list from Meta-Wiki:
List of articles every Wikipedia should have. The first incarnation of the list became what is now level 3. As of 2019, there are 5 levels of vital articles:
Level 1: the 10 most vital articles (2009)
Level 2: the 100 most vital articles (2009)
Level 3: the 1,000 most vital articles (2004)
Level 4: the 10,000 most vital articles (2006)
Level 5: the 50,000 most vital articles (2017)
Each level is inclusive of all previous levels, meaning that the 1,000 Level 3 articles include those listed on Levels 2 and 1. Below is an overview of the distribution of vital articles, and the quality of the articles. While the ultimate goal of the vital articles project is to have Featured-class articles, I also considered Good Articles to be "complete" for the purposes of this list.
Animals (1,148 designated out of projected 2,400)
Cnidarians (5/8): 62.5% complete
Echinoderms (3/6): 50% complete
Insects (30/70): 42.9% complete
Invertebrates + others (10/27): 37% complete
Other arthropods (3/10): 30% complete
Reptiles (25/85): 29.4% complete
Amphibians (6/22): 27.3% complete
Porifera (1/4): 25% complete
Mammals (68/319): 21.3% complete
Mollusks (2/19): 21.1% complete
Arachnids (3/17): 17.6% complete
Birds (33/187): 17.6% complete
Animal breeds and hybrids (19/112): 17% complete
Crustaceans (3/25): 12% complete
Fishes (11/134): 8.2% complete
Agnatha (0/4): 0% complete
Plants, fungi, and other organisms (510 designated out of projected 1,200)
Fungi (4/33): 12.1% complete
Other organisms—Archaea, Bacteria, Eukarya (5/62): 8.1% complete
Vegetables (6/96): 6.7% complete
Monocots (2/35): 5.7% complete
Edible fruits (5/95): 5.3% complete
Non-flowering plants (1/30): 3.3% complete
Edible seeds, grains, nuts (1/69): 1.4% complete
Non-monocots (1/88): 1.1% complete
Carnivorous plants (0/2): 0% complete
Many articles have yet to be designated for Tree of Life taxonomic groups, with 1,942 outstanding articles to be added. Anyone can add vital articles to the list! Restructuring may be necessary, as the only viruses included as of yet are under the category "Health". The majority of vital articles needing improvement are level 5, but here are some outstanding articles from the other levels:
... that the extinct giant
thresher sharkAlopias palatasi is the only one of its kind to possess serrated teeth (pictured)? (1 January)
... that Dogor, an 18,000-year-old canine puppy, may represent a common ancestor of the dog and the wolf? (2 January)
... that the Caton Oak in
Lancashire, England, was reputed to be a site of worship by
druids? (4 January)
... that the LuEsther T. Mertz Library(pictured), one of the world's largest botanical libraries, had 6.5 million plant specimens and 75 percent of the world's systematic botany literature in 2002? (4 January)
... that Australian biologist Lee Berger identified Batrachochytrium dendrobatidis as being responsible for the decline and extinction of hundreds of amphibian species? (5 January)
... that the beetle Zaitzevia thermae has a total habitat of less than 35 square metres (380 sq ft) around one hot spring in
Montana? (6 January)
... that the Anatolian frog is exported from Turkey to France, Italy and Switzerland for food, and is considered by the
IUCN to be a
near-threatened species? (6 January)
... that the stems and leaves of the endangered Holloway's crystalwort look as if they are covered in sugar crystals? (8 January)
... that a severe infestation of the palm weevil borer can kill its host palm? (9 January)
... that a mandarin duck(pictured) that appeared in New York City's
Central Park became an international celebrity, with followers whom the
Associated Press called "quackarazzi"? (10 January)
... that the female Savannah darter lays clutches of sticky eggs that she buries in gravel or sand? (12 January)
... that the Malayan banded pitta is threatened by the destruction of its forest habitat and by being targeted for the illegal trade in birds? (12 January)
... that in 2007, a rescued
European bison calf dubbed Pubal grew so attached to humans in southeastern Poland that he could not be successfully reintegrated back into the wild? (13 January)
... that evolutionary biologist Rebecca Kilner has found that mites can give
burying beetles a competitive advantage? (13 January)
... that jellyfish blooms can clog coastal power plants, causing losses of tens of thousands of US dollars per day? (14 January)
... that Anisocentropus krampus was
described in the same paper as other insects with monstrous names like Ganonema dracula and Anisocentropus golem? (16 January)
... that in France, the beetle Aepus marinus is restricted to a narrow strip of the beach near the high-water mark? (17 January)
... that the palm scale was first found on an
endemic species of palm on the island of
Réunion, but now infests plants in at least 78
families around the world? (17 January)
... that artist
Salvador Dalí claimed that his pet ocelot(both pictured) was an ordinary domestic cat that he had "painted over in an
op art design"? (18 January)
... that a whale found in western
Vermont has presented further evidence of glaciation in
New England? (19 January)
... that hosts of the passionvine bug(example pictured) include coffee, citrus, mung bean, squash, and mango? (21 January)
... that the lizard goby holds on to rocks in fast-flowing water by means of a "sucker" formed from two fins? (21 January)
... that the egg sacs of the newly discovered Phinda button spider are made of bright purple silk that fades to grey when it dries? (22 January)
... that with a stretched length of up to 20 cm (8 in), Pontobdella muricata is one of the largest marine leeches? (28 January)
... that not only does Couma utilis have edible fruit, its latex is used as a base for chewing gum,
caulking boats, and
whitewashing houses? (29 January)
... that the doubleband surgeonfish(example pictured) can turn a dark brown shade flushed with red or violet when stressed? (30 January)
Learn about the use of Wikidata, Wikipedia and sister projects in education, at the
Wikimedia in Education UK Summit at Coventry University on 26 February
Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call: further discussion of labels and aliases; start looking at Google Sheets, 11 February.
Agenda
Reasonator offers a visual formatted display of Wikidata information. It is useful for introducing Wikidata to new audiences and can help find missing or incorrect data by presenting a different view than the standard editing interface.
Other Noteworthy Stuff
The
Kensho Derived Wikimedia Dataset is a a cleaned English subset of Wikipedia/Wikidata with 2.3B tokens, 5.3M pages, 51M nodes, and 120M edges for use in natural language processing (NLP) research
Property talk pages now include a link to query for a few random items using the "SERVICE bd:sample" in SPARQL. Example: look for "random list" on
d:Property talk:P279
There are now 100,000 people with the name
"John" in Wikidata.
"Elizabeth" is now the most frequent female given name.
Knowledge Grapher is a new tool to create Wikidata knowledge graphs without needing any knowledge of Wikidata Query or SPARQL code. Developed by
Fuzheado, it is currently in early testing mode and helps create graphs as described by
MartinPoulter at his 2019 blog post
Making Wikidata Visible. Feedback is appreciated.
Sweden report: FindingGLAMs Challenge; Art by Edvard Munch from the Thiel Gallery; More European archives on Wikidata; OpenGLAM now! – watch the presentations; Wikipedia in Libraries
Hello JarrahTree and thanks for the welcome. I have a question. What happens if another user edits my correction and reverts back to an incorrect and ungrammatical sentence in an article? This has happened with my edit to an article an the Sandy Hook shootings. is there a guideline? I don't want to get into a ding-dong with this other user! Thanks!
Bigmund (
talk)
08:25, 15 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the explanation - I can understand the frustration - on any AfD it's annoying to see users who know nothing about particular issues come in and give their "opinion" which results from doing a Google search and nothing more (and it falling entirely on users who want to keep articles to do all the hard work of showing why things should be kept and not getting listened to). For my sins I didn't do a Wikipedia search on the term and should have done so. Given the limited information on the Wawalag page and the much more appropriate place on the Yunggor page, I'll strike my !vote and change to a merge or redirect (whatever is more appropriate). Agree that there should not be a separate page at this point.
Bookscale (
talk)
10:55, 11 February 2020 (UTC)reply
do it
"
do it..." — Yes, because all of my other edits in areas where others are more knowledgeable, and/or in categorisation, have been accepted without any problems! </sarcasm>
Mitch Ames (
talk)
11:29, 11 February 2020 (UTC)reply
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UnitedStatesian (
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19:43, 11 February 2020 (UTC)reply
New Page Reviewer newsletter February 2020
Hello JarrahTree,
Source Guide Discussion
The first
NPP source guide discussion is now underway. It covers a wide range of sources in Ghana with the goal of providing more guidance to reviewers about sources they might see when reviewing pages. Hopefully, new page reviewers will join others interested in reliable sources and those with expertise in these sources to make the discussion a success.
Redirects
New to NPP? Looking to try something a little different? Consider patrolling some redirects. Redirects are relatively easy to review, can be found easily through the
New Pages Feed. You can find more information about how to patrol redirects at
WP:RPATROL.
Discussions and Resources
There is an
ongoing discussion around changing notifications for new editors who attempt to write articles.
A
resource page with links pertinent for reviewers was created this month.
A
proposal to increase the scope of G5 was withdrawn.
Refresher
Geographic regions, areas and places generally do not need
general notability guideline type sourcing. When evaluating whether an article meets this notability guideline please also consider whether it might actually be a form of
WP:SPAM for a development project (e.g. PR for a large luxury residential development) and not actually covered by the guideline.
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Science Stories by Kat Thornton and Kenneth Seals-Nutt, an application that tells stories about underrepresented people in STEM using Wikidata, Wikimedia Commons and Wikipedia, is the
winner of the
LODLAM 2020 Challenge!
Wikidata Bridge: more work on unsupported edit cases (unsupported datatypes
phab:T235753, ambiguous statements
phab:T240212, deprecated statements
phab:T238660, unknown value or no value statements
phab:T242747)
Including the property label in the title of the Data Bridge dialog (
phab:T233295)
Making the edit based on the user's fixed/updated choice (
phab:T238662)
Hi, may I know what do you mean? You mean I should delete all his articles? Or you want me to withdraw my PROD request? I am a bit confused. I am in no way targeting that user and i was just looking at articles using the "random" function. Could you please reply on my talk page? Thanks:)
WikiAviator (
talk)
07:17, 22 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Thanks for your advice. It isn't about the quality of the article, but mean its notability not verifiable, therefore i am deleting it. A superb article with a not so notable subject is still ought to be axed.
WikiAviator (
talk)
07:29, 22 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Thanks for creating the article. Some pointers: when you create a citation refname, it should have a semantic value (see Template:Refname rules) so that editors who edit in wikicode (i.e. Source screen) can more easily find them; the templates in the editing toolbar create and add standardized citations:
- Click "Cite" on the editing toolbar and the "Templates" window appears
- Click "Templates" and the selections for cite web, cite news, cite book, cite journal appear
- Choose one of the templates
- Click [Show/hide extra fields] to open all the parameters available
- Enter details about the source in the corresponding parameters
- Click [Preview] to review the citation
- Click [Insert] and the {{cite}} template is automatically added to the article.
I hope you find this information helpful.
Pyxis Solitary(yak). L not Q.
10:49, 22 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Celtic Knot Wikimedia Language Conference, one of the themes being how Wikidata can support minority languages, will take place on July 9-10 in Limerick, Ireland. Call for submissions open from February 27th to March 30th.
Upcoming: Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call: More discussion of pseudonyms and historical place names, 25 February.
Agenda
QWiki, a mobile game asking geography questions based on Wikidata, now has a new version released as well as
a website where one can learn how the game was made and how to contribute;
I wonder if it was feasible to have the region boundaries added to
File:Western Australia Local Government Areas.svg, or a map of each region with the shires in it. In a similar way, each of the cities, towns and shires could do with a map of its suburbs. I'm no good at creating such maps, unfortunately. It would be a worthwhile effort for an editor skilled in maps. Currently I rely on my UBD street directory, my Hema WA 4WD atlas and google maps.
Calistemon (
talk)
08:47, 26 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Mandurah
I had a productive morning getting images for all the State registered places in Mandurah, except Allandale Homestead, which was to far south for today. I even got close to Cooper's Mill, on Cooleenup Island, getting to just the other side of it on one of the branches of the Murray. I was told the gate to the last bit of the road, Tonkin Drive, is usually closed, but was open today. Sadly, further progressing towards Pinjarra was abruptly stopped when I picked up a tek screw in my front tire and had to limp back to Mandurah. Still, I'm happy, all but one of
List of State Register of Heritage Places in the City of Mandurah now have an image.
Calistemon (
talk)
10:35, 27 February 2020 (UTC)reply
List of Shipwrecks
Good day mate . Could you please inform user John Beta to stop erasing the clipper Redemptora from list of WA shipwrecks? It seems biased to say the least and excessive to call my contributions "vandalism" just to justify his own defective knowledge on the subject. Just one example: He intends to "define" what a shipwreck is or even correct the data for its sinking even against all evidence ( that has been corrected by what he calls "barelink"). I have added further sources to prove this is an important shipwreck of which little was known before the "barelink" (i.e. A master thesis form UWA) appeared. Thanks for all help . Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the
help page).
data corrected
Hi Jarrah corrected the date of Redemptora sinking/abandonment. It seems one or two ships are mentioned data of construction as data of sinking, hence the correction. Have added more sources to the "barelink".
Wikidata weekly summary #405
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
July 2-4, Lisbon:
WikiData Days 2020. Call for proposals is open until April 15.
Program submissions for the
Celtic Knot Conference are open until March 30th. Submissions about languages on Wikidata, GLAM or supporting minority languages are very welcome.
Wikidata graph builder is a front-end on top of the Query service, allowing to easily build graphs.
Other Noteworthy Stuff
The
Wikidata Languages Landscape dashboard provides insights into the ways languages are organized and used in Wikidata and across the Wikimedia projects that reuse Wikidata.
The
Great Britain and Ireland Destubathon began on 1 March and runs for the entire month. Expansion of any stubs related to Great Britain and Ireland is welcome, inclusive of taxa. There are also monetary prizes for winners of specific categories in the form of Amazon gift cards. PetScan could be useful here to find the intersection of Stub-class articles and other categories:
Biota of Ireland;
Biota of Great Britain;
Biota of the Isle of Man
Immunofluorescence staining of a mouse intestine, "Microscopy" (Australia)
Bat scientist Lauri Lutsar determining the age of a bat, "People In Science" (Estonia)
Close-up view of a bioluminescent beetle
Elateroidea, "Wildlife and Nature" (France)
Coral fluorescence, "General Category" (Russia)
Paleoanthropologist at work, "People in Science" (Italy)
Ammonite fossil from Morocco, "General Category" (Spain)
Yellow orange-tip male (Ixias pyrene), "Wildlife and Nature" (India)
The spread of coronavirus across Wikipedia
With the outbreak of a novel coronavirus dominating news coverage, Wikipedia content related to the virus has seen much higher interest. Tree of Life content of particular interest to readers has included viruses, bats, pangolins, and masked palm civets. Viruses saw the most dramatic growth in readership:
Coronavirus, which was the 105th most popular virus article in December 2019 with about 400 views per day, averaged over a quarter million views each day of January 2020. Total monthly viewership of the top-10 virus articles ballooned from about 1.5 million to nearly 20 million.
From October 2019 – December 2019, the top ten most popular bat articles fluctuated among 16 different articles, with the December viewership of those 10 articles at 209,280. For
January 2020, three articles broke into the top-10 that were not among the 16 articles of the prior three months:
Bat as food,
Horseshoe bat, and
Bat-borne virus. Viewership of the top-10 bat articles spiked nearly 300% to 617,067 in January.
While bats have been implicated as a possible natural reservoir of
SARS-CoV-2, an intermediate host may be the bridge between bats and humans.
Pangolins have been hypothesized as the intermediate host for the virus, causing
a large spike in typical page views of 2-3k each day up to more than 60k in a day.
Masked palm civets, the intermediate host of
SARS, saw a
modest yet noticeable spike in page views as well, from 100 to 300 views per day to as many as 5k views per day.
With an increase in viewers came an increase in editors. In an interview, longtime virus editor Awkwafaba identified the influx of editors as the biggest challenge in editing content related to the coronavirus. They noted that these newcomers include "novices who make honest mistakes and get tossed about a bit in the mad activity" as well as "experienced editors who know nothing about viruses and are good researchers, yet aren't familiar with the policies of WP:ToL or WP:Viruses." Disruption also increased, with
extended confirmed protection (also known as the 30/500 rule, which prevents editors with fewer than 30 days tenure and 500 edits from making edits and is typically used on a very small subset of Wikipedia articles) temporarily applied to
Coronavirus and still active on
Template:2019–20 coronavirus outbreak data. New editors apparently seeking to correct misinformation continuously edited the article
Bat as food to remove content related to China:
Videos of Chinese people eating bat soup were misrepresented to be current or filmed in China, when at least one such video was several years old and filmed in Palau. However, reliable sources confirm that bats are eaten in China, especially Southern China, so these well-meaning edits were mostly removed.
Another level of complexity was added by the fluctuating terminology of the virus.
Over a dozen moves and merges were requested within WikiProject Viruses. To give you an idea of the musical chairs happening with article titles, here are the move histories of two articles:
Awkwafaba noted that "the main authorities,
WHO and
ICTV, don't really have a process for speedily naming a virus or disease." Additionally, they have different criteria for naming. They said, "I remember in a move discussion from the article then called Wuhan coronavirus that a virus name cannot have a geographical location in it, but this is a WHO disease naming guideline, and not an ICTV virus naming rule. ICTV may have renamed Four Corners virus to Sin Nombre orthohantavirus but there are still plenty of official virus species names that don't abide by WHO guidelines."
February DYKs
Thistle broomrape
Painting of the Shelton Oak
Female A. diabolicum flowers with curled stigmas
... that juvenile ornate surgeonfish are quite different in colouring from the adult fish? (1 February)
... that Quarry Moor is one of the few locations in England where the rare parasitic plant thistle broomrape(example pictured) grows? (2 February)
... that the hollow Shelton Oak(pictured) near
Shrewsbury was so big that a party of eight could dance a
quadrille inside it? (3 February)
... that growth in the brown seaweed Zanardinia typus occurs at the base of the hairs that grow around the edge of the frond? (4 February)
... that entomologist Karim Vahed led the team that found
a cricket species in which the
testes accounted for 14 percent of the insect's body mass? (4 February)
... that although the bird of paradise fly was first described from an Angophora tree, it is quite likely that this is not the insect's host plant? (11 February)
Querying the URL datatype with haswbstatement is now possible (
phab:T243693). It will take two to three months before URLs are indexed for all Wikidata items.
Wikidata Bridge: more style fixes, preparing a prototype to show how we will display references
Fixing various production errors
Monitoring the run of wb_terms migration
Fixing an issue with the Commons files search field (
phab:T196165)
Indonesia report: Proposing collaboration with museums in Bali; First Wikisource training in the region
Netherlands report: Students write articles about Media artists, Public Domain Day 2020, Wiki Goes Caribbean, WikiFridays at Ihlia - Wikimedia Nederland in January & February 2020
Norway report: Wikipedia editing workshop with the Norwegian Network for Museums
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UnitedStatesian (
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02:05, 15 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Wikidata weekly summary #407
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
Note: Due to the ongoing COVID-19 situation, most meetups, including all those funded by Wikimedia Foundation grants, have been cancelled, or moved online, for the foreseeable future.
All identifiers are now sorted mostly alphabetically according to
the RfC regarding the sorting of identifiers, which remains open if you have improvement proposals. Feel free to comment
here!
Maximilian Klein applied for
a project grant to merge and improve
WHGI and
Denelezh, tools that heavily rely on Wikidata to provide statistics about gender gap and biographical content in Wikimedia projects.
QuickStatements change (
4 March). QuickStatements is now executing "run in background" batches with the same priority as direct batches run from the browser. Background batches may now run many times faster than they previously did (
discussion), when the WDQS updater can handle this.
Why did you list her as "living=no", twice, in the project banners? She appears to be alive. If you know she is not, then please update her article. Thanks.
PamD19:39, 16 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Sir, Requested please review the page this is Currently Submitted. you see the draft articles and in my talk page add tag Done or Not done.(thanks for taking) 3:50 pm, 18 March2020 (UTC).
Vivek ji123 (
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David Beal
Thank you JarrahTree for your encouragement on the photographer bios I have been writing! Always good to know someone out there is keeping a critical (as in helpful) eye on things. David Beal was certainly important - lots of pics on Trove, SLNSW, but bio details are very impossible to track down...he's still alive, somewhere. I'm interested in that cracker shot of the running emus on your page - do tell me more!
But you have to be there, be alert, and have a camera!
Jamesmcardle(talk)21:44, 19 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Fremantle Fortress
Thank you for the source provided, it was invaluable for the
Fremantle Fortress article. Just one question, drawing on your local knowledge. The only one of the batteries I could not pin point the location for is Swanbourne Battery (See table). I presume it was near where
Campbell Barracks (Western Australia) are now but haven't been able to find anything definitive. Have you got any knowledge on the exact location?
Calistemon (
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06:01, 3 May 2020 (UTC)reply
This is a Wikipediauser talk page. This is not an encyclopedia article or the talk page for an encyclopedia article. If you find this page on any site other than Wikipedia, you are viewing a
mirror site. Be aware that the page may be outdated and that the user in whose space this page is located may have no personal affiliation with any site other than Wikipedia. The original talk page is located at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JarrahTree/Archive_61.
On December 10th, the IUCN updated 8,225 species assessments, including 6,722 that were added to the list for the first time. All eucalypt species have officially been evaluated by the IUCN with this update. Several birds were newly declared extinct (
poʻouli,
cryptic treehunter,
Alagoas foliage-gleaner) and one declared extinct in the wild (
Spix's macaw). The official press release is
here.
Sign-ups are open for the
2020 WikiCup, a months-long competition where editors score points by improving articles. Sign-ups are open through 31 January.
The Tree of Life was featured in The Signpost as a
WikiProject report, eight years after it was
last featured. This marked the return of the WikiProject report after a year hiatus.
Editor Spotlight: Plantdrew
We're joined this month by long-time editor Plantdrew, who's currently engaged in streamlining the taxonomic structure of Wikipedia articles via the
automated taxobox system.
How did you become a Wikipedian? What are your particular interests (besides the obvious of "plants")?
My first job out of school in was working for
ITIS; entering new species, mostly fish. At that time, ITIS was the single largest taxonomic database, and I was enthusiastic about the prospects for the eventual completion of a comprehensive global taxonomic resource. I moved on to other things, and fews years later I became aware of Wikipedia and eventually Wikispecies. At that time (~2007), It seemed to me that Wikispecies might be the best prospect for a comprehensive global taxonomic resource. ITIS had a team of 5 data developers when I worked there, while Wikispecies had a substantially larger editor base and was growing faster than ITIS (although still smaller than ITIS). I did a little bit of editing at Wikispecies at that point, but stopped after being frustrated that a project that easily could have been a structured database had little consensus for any particular standards or structures.
As Wikipedia grew, I found myself using it more and more as a reference. Eventually I started making occasional editing as an IP to fix errors I noticed. I finally registered an account when I needed to create an article; there was an article purportedly about an insect genus, but all the information pertained to a particular species, so I created an article for the species and moved information there. I started finding more cases where Wikipedia was conflating different topics; plant product derived from multiple species with a taxobox for one species, the common name for a fairly well known fruit needing disambiguation against an obscure French town. At that point I was hooked and started making more substantial contributions. It also was apparent that while the English Wikipedia might not outpace Wikispecies in article count, it had better representation of organisms that more people were interested in, and was attracting far more readers. For the first few years I was active, I focused on adding redirects for (unambigous)) vernacular names, and resolving ambiguous vernacular names.
Aside from plants, I'm interested in slime molds, fungi, and various sessile and slow-moving animals (I like things that can be observed without them running away). I've had some short term work experience with fishes (ITIS), mammals, birds and insects.
What projects are keeping you busy around the 'pedia at present?
Well, I'm not much of a content creator. I mostly do gnomish edits.
Every day, I try to look through the all the new articles for the ToL subprojects that have new article reports set up (which reminds me, we should really get a ToL-wide new article report going). Many new articles are created by experienced ToL editors whose names I recognize, and I don't do much to check their work. For unfamiliar editors, I tag articles for the appropriate WikiProject, and check for formatting, grammar, etc. A couple years ago, I was just about the only person checking new ToL articles, but recently other ToL editors have stepped up.
Since early 2017, my main project has been converting manual taxoboxes to automatic taxoboxes. That has me going through articles systematically, and since I'm editing them anyway there are a bunch of other changes I make as necessary. Checking that classification is up-to-date, standardizing formatting, adding inline citations, refining categories, adding images if any are available on Commons, adding additional IDs to taxonbars in cases of monotypy, creating/categorizing redirects. I've slowly been working through plant articles, with occasional forays into other groups of organisms. Some of these tasks weren't part of my work flow when I first started, and there are some tasks that I could be doing, but haven't bothered with (short descriptions, certain types of categories). I expect it'll take about another year for me to finish up with plant automatic taxoboxes, and then I'm sure I'll have to find something else to do.
What's your favorite plant?
I couldn't pick just one. Pseudotsuga is the dominant tree where I grew up, and it always makes me happy to be back in a Douglas fir forest. Asimina triloba is my favorite wild edible plant that grows where I live now. I studied Berberis thunbergii as an invasive species in grad school, and have a love/hate relationship with it now (mostly hate, but it remains interesting).
Belgian endive is my favorite vegetable without a Wikipedia article. I'm fond of
Lamiaceae in general, and while many species are used as herbs, I'm particularly interested in mints with other uses; Salvia hispanica as a pseudo-cereal, Plectranthus rotundifolius as a root crop, and Salvia divinorum as psychoactive plant with mysterious origins (is it a cultigen?).
What's your background like? How did you come to have a special interest in biology?
I grew up in a rural area and spent a lot of time playing in the woods and working in the garden, so I interacted a lot with plants as a child. My mother's parents were (insect) taxonomists (and a great-grandparent had a keen interest in natural history). My mother was pretty comfortable with scientific names, and after my parents settled in a part of the country with many plants they hadn't been familiar with, she learned the new plants by scientific names. I knew a bunch of plants by scientific names from an early age long before I realized that other people had different names for them. When I was a little older I became interested in edible wild plants. I remained interested in plants in general, and when I was in college and discovered the discipline of ethnobotany, which really tied together the general botany side of my interests with the edible plant side.
What's something that would surprised TOL editors about your life off-wiki?
Birders have
life lists of species they've seen. I have a life list of plant species I've eaten. I enjoy shopping at international grocery stores, looking for new plants to try (or different preparations of unusual plants I've already tried). I've made two trips to a city 5 hours away just to shop at a store that I'm pretty sure is the largest international grocery store in the United States. My best Christmas gift this year was a box with little sample packs of 14 different species of dried fruits and herbs from Australia. I'd prefer to try the fruits fresh, but without making a trip to Australia, this is my best opportunity to try some of the major bushfoods.
Anything else you'd like us to know?
Editing Wikipedia has been a rewarding hobby for me, and although I haven't done a lot of direct collaboration with other editors, the ToL community seems pretty friendly and relatively conflict free. ToL is a good bunch of people.
December DYKs
Member of genus Chrysomya
Mekong Bobtail
... that the tapping sound of the deathwatch beetle has long been considered an omen of an impending death? (1 December)
... that Chinese virologist George F. Gao led a test laboratory in Sierra Leone during the peak of the
2014 Ebola outbreak? (1 December)
... that the chirps of the snowy tree cricket can be used to estimate the temperature? (2 December)
... that research on
pain in fish by Victoria Braithwaite resulted in new rules in the UK, Europe, and Canada to make fisheries more humane? (2 December)
... that plant physiologist Hu Dujing cultivated Eucommia ulmoides to produce a substitute for rubber? (3 December)
... that Rhagoletis juglandis is a species of fly that infests walnuts? (3 December)
... that the granulate ambrosia beetle is native to Asia but has spread as an invasive species to Africa, the Americas, Europe, and Oceania? (5 December)
... that the Peleng tarsier, a small carnivorous
primate, can rotate its head nearly 180 degrees in either direction? (7 December)
... that infestations of the cotton jassid can be reduced by growing a cotton cultivar with hairy leaves? (14 December)
... that Coelopa pilipes fly populations can live at temperatures of 40 °C (104 °F) within piles of
kelp, even in areas covered with snow and ice? (18 December)
... that Hirtodrosophila mycetophaga mate on
bracket fungi, selectively choosing those with a lighter surface to enhance the visibility of their courtship displays? (19 December)
... that after laying its eggs on a leaf, the female mango leaf-cutting weevil severs the leaf near its base and lets it fall to the ground? (30 December)
Resolver allows you to quickly find an item based on a property+value string pair. It is especially useful for checking whether an external identifier such as a VIAF ID (P214) or Getty AAT ID (P1014) is already in use in Wikidata.
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UnitedStatesian (
talk)
03:43, 7 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Oops
Oops, sorry, clobbered that user with a warning after you'd already posted a welcome/warning message. Misread the date and thought it must be a serial offender.
Laterthanyouthink (
talk)
07:28, 11 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Hi there, i wonder if you could help me out with a editing problem on the wikipedia article
Proclamation of Indonesian Independence. The person
Bluesatellite is rewriting the article again and again and is erasing sources which does not match the vison of the Indonesian government in which it is told that the world accepted Indonesian independence in 1945. All the sources tell 1949, but Bluesatellite is erasing all these sources with from the Indonesian government or Indonesian articles. I used Newspapers and UN sources to provide sources which support a neutral vision, but everytime it's erased. Could you be of some help?
Tabernacle creates a tabular view of a set of data items from a SPARQL query, PagePile list, or manual list of items. You can select which languages and properties to display. The tool lets you drag-and-drop statements from one item to another, and manually add or edit statements without leaving the page. Tabernacle is great for harmonizing a set of related items or identifying items that need their labels and descriptions translated.
Thanks for your message, and hope all is well with you and yours
Hi @
JarrahTree: and thank you for
your message. Yep, I am alive/well/comprehending and so on. I am quite aware that my edits reflect a rather idiosyncratic take on... pretty much everything. As for my additions of ISBNs to the
Peter Corris, I partially agree that it was "unsightly and unhelpful". Maybe we should have created articles for those books? Pete AU aka --
Shirt58 (
talk)
12:24, 15 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Re: there indeed is a story
Oh yes, there really is! If I were ever in that area again I'd love to go there ... if only to harass the guy who owns it about weather records, lol ... Graham8714:17, 16 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Lead sentences
FYI, most decent articles tend to start with something like (for example) "...is an Australian politician. He was a [party] member of the [parliament] from [year] to [year], representing [seat]. It might be worth mentioning more often for federal MPs, for example, "...representing the New South Wales seat of [seat name], but for state MPs its a given as long as someone thinks to mention the parliament in the lead section.
The Drover's Wife (
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02:26, 18 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Upcoming: next
Wikidata office hour, January 22nd, at 17:00 UTC (18:00 UTC+1), on the
Wikidata Telegram channel. Topics: presenting the roadmap for 2020 and some news from the development team
Tool of the week
The
Wikidata Card Game Generator generates printable cards based on a topic (eg chemical elements) and some statements of the item.
Other Noteworthy Stuff
New gadget added to Preferences, "Show UnpatrolledEdits" (see
discussion): it shows if the last edit to the item has not been patrolled
Pywikibot deprecates Python 2 support. Any scripts running via Python 2 should be migrated soon, see more at
[1]
The next Weekly Summary (January 27) will be the issue #400. Please
help us collecting interesting Wikidata-related facts around the number 400!
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UnitedStatesian (
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19:36, 21 January 2020 (UTC)reply
AfD
Eh, it's pretty easy for these kinds of articles to stick around for ages: random foreigners will see the "college" and assume notability even with a crap article and probably wouldn't come across something linked from an industrial estate suburb article anyway. (It's interesting Wikipedians' preconceptions about this stuff - the last time we had one of these private providers with no sources nominated for deletion we had to have a real argument to get it deleted (because people think "ooh, college"), but we have to fight to keep
Merivale (company) despite the fact it's a billion-dollar business that became notable a good thirty years before I was born).
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12:22, 22 January 2020 (UTC)reply
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UnitedStatesian (
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17:12, 24 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Back
Just archived my talk page including your message. Back virus free (as far as I can tell) although the surgical mask was very popular at Singapore Airport. Will be attempting to help knock off the last of the biota list in the next few week. Trust all is well.
Hughesdarren (
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09:01, 27 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Wikidata weekly summary #400
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
Welcome to the 400th Weekly Summary! Here are some interesting Wikidata facts or queries collected by the community and related to the number 400:
Item #400 is
Jenna Jameson; Property #400 is
platform (software), and Lexeme #400 is "
vierhonderd" - Dutch for "four hundred". The QID for the natural number 400 is
Q1535396. The QID for the year 400 is
Q25621.
The Greek philosopher
Hypatia, one of the first women scientists, became head of the Neo-Platonist school at Alexandria, in 400 AD. We include her here in tribute to those working to reduce Wikidata's gender gap.
Duplicate Item copies the current item (without descriptions or sitelinks) to a new item. This tool is useful for splitting items and for making sets of similar items. Recommended for experienced users.
Yeah ... and there's the small matter of the "Mc" in his surname ... and what comes up when you Google ""Neil McNeil" ballarat, like
this. Graham8703:03, 31 January 2020 (UTC)reply
VizQuery allows you to use the Wikidata Query Service without having to know SPARQL. Simply use a couple of autocomplete input boxes and you can do most basic queries.
Other Noteworthy Stuff
Bruno and
Denny present how to use
Lexical Masks in ShEx to validate lexemes, including a first set of example schemata. They also invite everyone to work on more languages, and will keep adding more ShEx schema over time.
In a major milestone for the
automated taxobox system, more taxa articles now use automatic taxoboxes than manual ones. Particularly robust groups for automatic taxoboxes are turtles, primates, birds, rodents, amphibians and reptiles, sharks, and bivalves, with each project adopting automatic taxoboxes at rates greater than 95%. Only the fungi, arthropods, and microbiology projects had automatic taxobox adoption rates less than 25%. Read more in the
1 January update.
Thanks to user Trappist the monk, all citations to the IUCN using
Template:Cite web or
Template:Cite journal have now been swapped to
Template:Cite iucn. This will prevent a recurrence of massive link failure should the IUCN change its URL format again. That does not address the
14.5k articles that cite the IUCN without the use of templates. For more background discussion, see
here and
here.
Vital Articles
The
vital articles project on English Wikipedia began in 2004 when an editor transferred a list from Meta-Wiki:
List of articles every Wikipedia should have. The first incarnation of the list became what is now level 3. As of 2019, there are 5 levels of vital articles:
Level 1: the 10 most vital articles (2009)
Level 2: the 100 most vital articles (2009)
Level 3: the 1,000 most vital articles (2004)
Level 4: the 10,000 most vital articles (2006)
Level 5: the 50,000 most vital articles (2017)
Each level is inclusive of all previous levels, meaning that the 1,000 Level 3 articles include those listed on Levels 2 and 1. Below is an overview of the distribution of vital articles, and the quality of the articles. While the ultimate goal of the vital articles project is to have Featured-class articles, I also considered Good Articles to be "complete" for the purposes of this list.
Animals (1,148 designated out of projected 2,400)
Cnidarians (5/8): 62.5% complete
Echinoderms (3/6): 50% complete
Insects (30/70): 42.9% complete
Invertebrates + others (10/27): 37% complete
Other arthropods (3/10): 30% complete
Reptiles (25/85): 29.4% complete
Amphibians (6/22): 27.3% complete
Porifera (1/4): 25% complete
Mammals (68/319): 21.3% complete
Mollusks (2/19): 21.1% complete
Arachnids (3/17): 17.6% complete
Birds (33/187): 17.6% complete
Animal breeds and hybrids (19/112): 17% complete
Crustaceans (3/25): 12% complete
Fishes (11/134): 8.2% complete
Agnatha (0/4): 0% complete
Plants, fungi, and other organisms (510 designated out of projected 1,200)
Fungi (4/33): 12.1% complete
Other organisms—Archaea, Bacteria, Eukarya (5/62): 8.1% complete
Vegetables (6/96): 6.7% complete
Monocots (2/35): 5.7% complete
Edible fruits (5/95): 5.3% complete
Non-flowering plants (1/30): 3.3% complete
Edible seeds, grains, nuts (1/69): 1.4% complete
Non-monocots (1/88): 1.1% complete
Carnivorous plants (0/2): 0% complete
Many articles have yet to be designated for Tree of Life taxonomic groups, with 1,942 outstanding articles to be added. Anyone can add vital articles to the list! Restructuring may be necessary, as the only viruses included as of yet are under the category "Health". The majority of vital articles needing improvement are level 5, but here are some outstanding articles from the other levels:
... that the extinct giant
thresher sharkAlopias palatasi is the only one of its kind to possess serrated teeth (pictured)? (1 January)
... that Dogor, an 18,000-year-old canine puppy, may represent a common ancestor of the dog and the wolf? (2 January)
... that the Caton Oak in
Lancashire, England, was reputed to be a site of worship by
druids? (4 January)
... that the LuEsther T. Mertz Library(pictured), one of the world's largest botanical libraries, had 6.5 million plant specimens and 75 percent of the world's systematic botany literature in 2002? (4 January)
... that Australian biologist Lee Berger identified Batrachochytrium dendrobatidis as being responsible for the decline and extinction of hundreds of amphibian species? (5 January)
... that the beetle Zaitzevia thermae has a total habitat of less than 35 square metres (380 sq ft) around one hot spring in
Montana? (6 January)
... that the Anatolian frog is exported from Turkey to France, Italy and Switzerland for food, and is considered by the
IUCN to be a
near-threatened species? (6 January)
... that the stems and leaves of the endangered Holloway's crystalwort look as if they are covered in sugar crystals? (8 January)
... that a severe infestation of the palm weevil borer can kill its host palm? (9 January)
... that a mandarin duck(pictured) that appeared in New York City's
Central Park became an international celebrity, with followers whom the
Associated Press called "quackarazzi"? (10 January)
... that the female Savannah darter lays clutches of sticky eggs that she buries in gravel or sand? (12 January)
... that the Malayan banded pitta is threatened by the destruction of its forest habitat and by being targeted for the illegal trade in birds? (12 January)
... that in 2007, a rescued
European bison calf dubbed Pubal grew so attached to humans in southeastern Poland that he could not be successfully reintegrated back into the wild? (13 January)
... that evolutionary biologist Rebecca Kilner has found that mites can give
burying beetles a competitive advantage? (13 January)
... that jellyfish blooms can clog coastal power plants, causing losses of tens of thousands of US dollars per day? (14 January)
... that Anisocentropus krampus was
described in the same paper as other insects with monstrous names like Ganonema dracula and Anisocentropus golem? (16 January)
... that in France, the beetle Aepus marinus is restricted to a narrow strip of the beach near the high-water mark? (17 January)
... that the palm scale was first found on an
endemic species of palm on the island of
Réunion, but now infests plants in at least 78
families around the world? (17 January)
... that artist
Salvador Dalí claimed that his pet ocelot(both pictured) was an ordinary domestic cat that he had "painted over in an
op art design"? (18 January)
... that a whale found in western
Vermont has presented further evidence of glaciation in
New England? (19 January)
... that hosts of the passionvine bug(example pictured) include coffee, citrus, mung bean, squash, and mango? (21 January)
... that the lizard goby holds on to rocks in fast-flowing water by means of a "sucker" formed from two fins? (21 January)
... that the egg sacs of the newly discovered Phinda button spider are made of bright purple silk that fades to grey when it dries? (22 January)
... that with a stretched length of up to 20 cm (8 in), Pontobdella muricata is one of the largest marine leeches? (28 January)
... that not only does Couma utilis have edible fruit, its latex is used as a base for chewing gum,
caulking boats, and
whitewashing houses? (29 January)
... that the doubleband surgeonfish(example pictured) can turn a dark brown shade flushed with red or violet when stressed? (30 January)
Learn about the use of Wikidata, Wikipedia and sister projects in education, at the
Wikimedia in Education UK Summit at Coventry University on 26 February
Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call: further discussion of labels and aliases; start looking at Google Sheets, 11 February.
Agenda
Reasonator offers a visual formatted display of Wikidata information. It is useful for introducing Wikidata to new audiences and can help find missing or incorrect data by presenting a different view than the standard editing interface.
Other Noteworthy Stuff
The
Kensho Derived Wikimedia Dataset is a a cleaned English subset of Wikipedia/Wikidata with 2.3B tokens, 5.3M pages, 51M nodes, and 120M edges for use in natural language processing (NLP) research
Property talk pages now include a link to query for a few random items using the "SERVICE bd:sample" in SPARQL. Example: look for "random list" on
d:Property talk:P279
There are now 100,000 people with the name
"John" in Wikidata.
"Elizabeth" is now the most frequent female given name.
Knowledge Grapher is a new tool to create Wikidata knowledge graphs without needing any knowledge of Wikidata Query or SPARQL code. Developed by
Fuzheado, it is currently in early testing mode and helps create graphs as described by
MartinPoulter at his 2019 blog post
Making Wikidata Visible. Feedback is appreciated.
Sweden report: FindingGLAMs Challenge; Art by Edvard Munch from the Thiel Gallery; More European archives on Wikidata; OpenGLAM now! – watch the presentations; Wikipedia in Libraries
Hello JarrahTree and thanks for the welcome. I have a question. What happens if another user edits my correction and reverts back to an incorrect and ungrammatical sentence in an article? This has happened with my edit to an article an the Sandy Hook shootings. is there a guideline? I don't want to get into a ding-dong with this other user! Thanks!
Bigmund (
talk)
08:25, 15 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the explanation - I can understand the frustration - on any AfD it's annoying to see users who know nothing about particular issues come in and give their "opinion" which results from doing a Google search and nothing more (and it falling entirely on users who want to keep articles to do all the hard work of showing why things should be kept and not getting listened to). For my sins I didn't do a Wikipedia search on the term and should have done so. Given the limited information on the Wawalag page and the much more appropriate place on the Yunggor page, I'll strike my !vote and change to a merge or redirect (whatever is more appropriate). Agree that there should not be a separate page at this point.
Bookscale (
talk)
10:55, 11 February 2020 (UTC)reply
do it
"
do it..." — Yes, because all of my other edits in areas where others are more knowledgeable, and/or in categorisation, have been accepted without any problems! </sarcasm>
Mitch Ames (
talk)
11:29, 11 February 2020 (UTC)reply
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visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with
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UnitedStatesian (
talk)
19:43, 11 February 2020 (UTC)reply
New Page Reviewer newsletter February 2020
Hello JarrahTree,
Source Guide Discussion
The first
NPP source guide discussion is now underway. It covers a wide range of sources in Ghana with the goal of providing more guidance to reviewers about sources they might see when reviewing pages. Hopefully, new page reviewers will join others interested in reliable sources and those with expertise in these sources to make the discussion a success.
Redirects
New to NPP? Looking to try something a little different? Consider patrolling some redirects. Redirects are relatively easy to review, can be found easily through the
New Pages Feed. You can find more information about how to patrol redirects at
WP:RPATROL.
Discussions and Resources
There is an
ongoing discussion around changing notifications for new editors who attempt to write articles.
A
resource page with links pertinent for reviewers was created this month.
A
proposal to increase the scope of G5 was withdrawn.
Refresher
Geographic regions, areas and places generally do not need
general notability guideline type sourcing. When evaluating whether an article meets this notability guideline please also consider whether it might actually be a form of
WP:SPAM for a development project (e.g. PR for a large luxury residential development) and not actually covered by the guideline.
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Science Stories by Kat Thornton and Kenneth Seals-Nutt, an application that tells stories about underrepresented people in STEM using Wikidata, Wikimedia Commons and Wikipedia, is the
winner of the
LODLAM 2020 Challenge!
Wikidata Bridge: more work on unsupported edit cases (unsupported datatypes
phab:T235753, ambiguous statements
phab:T240212, deprecated statements
phab:T238660, unknown value or no value statements
phab:T242747)
Including the property label in the title of the Data Bridge dialog (
phab:T233295)
Making the edit based on the user's fixed/updated choice (
phab:T238662)
Hi, may I know what do you mean? You mean I should delete all his articles? Or you want me to withdraw my PROD request? I am a bit confused. I am in no way targeting that user and i was just looking at articles using the "random" function. Could you please reply on my talk page? Thanks:)
WikiAviator (
talk)
07:17, 22 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Thanks for your advice. It isn't about the quality of the article, but mean its notability not verifiable, therefore i am deleting it. A superb article with a not so notable subject is still ought to be axed.
WikiAviator (
talk)
07:29, 22 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Thanks for creating the article. Some pointers: when you create a citation refname, it should have a semantic value (see Template:Refname rules) so that editors who edit in wikicode (i.e. Source screen) can more easily find them; the templates in the editing toolbar create and add standardized citations:
- Click "Cite" on the editing toolbar and the "Templates" window appears
- Click "Templates" and the selections for cite web, cite news, cite book, cite journal appear
- Choose one of the templates
- Click [Show/hide extra fields] to open all the parameters available
- Enter details about the source in the corresponding parameters
- Click [Preview] to review the citation
- Click [Insert] and the {{cite}} template is automatically added to the article.
I hope you find this information helpful.
Pyxis Solitary(yak). L not Q.
10:49, 22 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Celtic Knot Wikimedia Language Conference, one of the themes being how Wikidata can support minority languages, will take place on July 9-10 in Limerick, Ireland. Call for submissions open from February 27th to March 30th.
Upcoming: Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call: More discussion of pseudonyms and historical place names, 25 February.
Agenda
QWiki, a mobile game asking geography questions based on Wikidata, now has a new version released as well as
a website where one can learn how the game was made and how to contribute;
I wonder if it was feasible to have the region boundaries added to
File:Western Australia Local Government Areas.svg, or a map of each region with the shires in it. In a similar way, each of the cities, towns and shires could do with a map of its suburbs. I'm no good at creating such maps, unfortunately. It would be a worthwhile effort for an editor skilled in maps. Currently I rely on my UBD street directory, my Hema WA 4WD atlas and google maps.
Calistemon (
talk)
08:47, 26 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Mandurah
I had a productive morning getting images for all the State registered places in Mandurah, except Allandale Homestead, which was to far south for today. I even got close to Cooper's Mill, on Cooleenup Island, getting to just the other side of it on one of the branches of the Murray. I was told the gate to the last bit of the road, Tonkin Drive, is usually closed, but was open today. Sadly, further progressing towards Pinjarra was abruptly stopped when I picked up a tek screw in my front tire and had to limp back to Mandurah. Still, I'm happy, all but one of
List of State Register of Heritage Places in the City of Mandurah now have an image.
Calistemon (
talk)
10:35, 27 February 2020 (UTC)reply
List of Shipwrecks
Good day mate . Could you please inform user John Beta to stop erasing the clipper Redemptora from list of WA shipwrecks? It seems biased to say the least and excessive to call my contributions "vandalism" just to justify his own defective knowledge on the subject. Just one example: He intends to "define" what a shipwreck is or even correct the data for its sinking even against all evidence ( that has been corrected by what he calls "barelink"). I have added further sources to prove this is an important shipwreck of which little was known before the "barelink" (i.e. A master thesis form UWA) appeared. Thanks for all help . Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the
help page).
data corrected
Hi Jarrah corrected the date of Redemptora sinking/abandonment. It seems one or two ships are mentioned data of construction as data of sinking, hence the correction. Have added more sources to the "barelink".
Wikidata weekly summary #405
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
July 2-4, Lisbon:
WikiData Days 2020. Call for proposals is open until April 15.
Program submissions for the
Celtic Knot Conference are open until March 30th. Submissions about languages on Wikidata, GLAM or supporting minority languages are very welcome.
Wikidata graph builder is a front-end on top of the Query service, allowing to easily build graphs.
Other Noteworthy Stuff
The
Wikidata Languages Landscape dashboard provides insights into the ways languages are organized and used in Wikidata and across the Wikimedia projects that reuse Wikidata.
The
Great Britain and Ireland Destubathon began on 1 March and runs for the entire month. Expansion of any stubs related to Great Britain and Ireland is welcome, inclusive of taxa. There are also monetary prizes for winners of specific categories in the form of Amazon gift cards. PetScan could be useful here to find the intersection of Stub-class articles and other categories:
Biota of Ireland;
Biota of Great Britain;
Biota of the Isle of Man
Immunofluorescence staining of a mouse intestine, "Microscopy" (Australia)
Bat scientist Lauri Lutsar determining the age of a bat, "People In Science" (Estonia)
Close-up view of a bioluminescent beetle
Elateroidea, "Wildlife and Nature" (France)
Coral fluorescence, "General Category" (Russia)
Paleoanthropologist at work, "People in Science" (Italy)
Ammonite fossil from Morocco, "General Category" (Spain)
Yellow orange-tip male (Ixias pyrene), "Wildlife and Nature" (India)
The spread of coronavirus across Wikipedia
With the outbreak of a novel coronavirus dominating news coverage, Wikipedia content related to the virus has seen much higher interest. Tree of Life content of particular interest to readers has included viruses, bats, pangolins, and masked palm civets. Viruses saw the most dramatic growth in readership:
Coronavirus, which was the 105th most popular virus article in December 2019 with about 400 views per day, averaged over a quarter million views each day of January 2020. Total monthly viewership of the top-10 virus articles ballooned from about 1.5 million to nearly 20 million.
From October 2019 – December 2019, the top ten most popular bat articles fluctuated among 16 different articles, with the December viewership of those 10 articles at 209,280. For
January 2020, three articles broke into the top-10 that were not among the 16 articles of the prior three months:
Bat as food,
Horseshoe bat, and
Bat-borne virus. Viewership of the top-10 bat articles spiked nearly 300% to 617,067 in January.
While bats have been implicated as a possible natural reservoir of
SARS-CoV-2, an intermediate host may be the bridge between bats and humans.
Pangolins have been hypothesized as the intermediate host for the virus, causing
a large spike in typical page views of 2-3k each day up to more than 60k in a day.
Masked palm civets, the intermediate host of
SARS, saw a
modest yet noticeable spike in page views as well, from 100 to 300 views per day to as many as 5k views per day.
With an increase in viewers came an increase in editors. In an interview, longtime virus editor Awkwafaba identified the influx of editors as the biggest challenge in editing content related to the coronavirus. They noted that these newcomers include "novices who make honest mistakes and get tossed about a bit in the mad activity" as well as "experienced editors who know nothing about viruses and are good researchers, yet aren't familiar with the policies of WP:ToL or WP:Viruses." Disruption also increased, with
extended confirmed protection (also known as the 30/500 rule, which prevents editors with fewer than 30 days tenure and 500 edits from making edits and is typically used on a very small subset of Wikipedia articles) temporarily applied to
Coronavirus and still active on
Template:2019–20 coronavirus outbreak data. New editors apparently seeking to correct misinformation continuously edited the article
Bat as food to remove content related to China:
Videos of Chinese people eating bat soup were misrepresented to be current or filmed in China, when at least one such video was several years old and filmed in Palau. However, reliable sources confirm that bats are eaten in China, especially Southern China, so these well-meaning edits were mostly removed.
Another level of complexity was added by the fluctuating terminology of the virus.
Over a dozen moves and merges were requested within WikiProject Viruses. To give you an idea of the musical chairs happening with article titles, here are the move histories of two articles:
Awkwafaba noted that "the main authorities,
WHO and
ICTV, don't really have a process for speedily naming a virus or disease." Additionally, they have different criteria for naming. They said, "I remember in a move discussion from the article then called Wuhan coronavirus that a virus name cannot have a geographical location in it, but this is a WHO disease naming guideline, and not an ICTV virus naming rule. ICTV may have renamed Four Corners virus to Sin Nombre orthohantavirus but there are still plenty of official virus species names that don't abide by WHO guidelines."
February DYKs
Thistle broomrape
Painting of the Shelton Oak
Female A. diabolicum flowers with curled stigmas
... that juvenile ornate surgeonfish are quite different in colouring from the adult fish? (1 February)
... that Quarry Moor is one of the few locations in England where the rare parasitic plant thistle broomrape(example pictured) grows? (2 February)
... that the hollow Shelton Oak(pictured) near
Shrewsbury was so big that a party of eight could dance a
quadrille inside it? (3 February)
... that growth in the brown seaweed Zanardinia typus occurs at the base of the hairs that grow around the edge of the frond? (4 February)
... that entomologist Karim Vahed led the team that found
a cricket species in which the
testes accounted for 14 percent of the insect's body mass? (4 February)
... that although the bird of paradise fly was first described from an Angophora tree, it is quite likely that this is not the insect's host plant? (11 February)
Querying the URL datatype with haswbstatement is now possible (
phab:T243693). It will take two to three months before URLs are indexed for all Wikidata items.
Wikidata Bridge: more style fixes, preparing a prototype to show how we will display references
Fixing various production errors
Monitoring the run of wb_terms migration
Fixing an issue with the Commons files search field (
phab:T196165)
Indonesia report: Proposing collaboration with museums in Bali; First Wikisource training in the region
Netherlands report: Students write articles about Media artists, Public Domain Day 2020, Wiki Goes Caribbean, WikiFridays at Ihlia - Wikimedia Nederland in January & February 2020
Norway report: Wikipedia editing workshop with the Norwegian Network for Museums
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UnitedStatesian (
talk)
02:05, 15 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Wikidata weekly summary #407
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
Note: Due to the ongoing COVID-19 situation, most meetups, including all those funded by Wikimedia Foundation grants, have been cancelled, or moved online, for the foreseeable future.
All identifiers are now sorted mostly alphabetically according to
the RfC regarding the sorting of identifiers, which remains open if you have improvement proposals. Feel free to comment
here!
Maximilian Klein applied for
a project grant to merge and improve
WHGI and
Denelezh, tools that heavily rely on Wikidata to provide statistics about gender gap and biographical content in Wikimedia projects.
QuickStatements change (
4 March). QuickStatements is now executing "run in background" batches with the same priority as direct batches run from the browser. Background batches may now run many times faster than they previously did (
discussion), when the WDQS updater can handle this.
Why did you list her as "living=no", twice, in the project banners? She appears to be alive. If you know she is not, then please update her article. Thanks.
PamD19:39, 16 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Sir, Requested please review the page this is Currently Submitted. you see the draft articles and in my talk page add tag Done or Not done.(thanks for taking) 3:50 pm, 18 March2020 (UTC).
Vivek ji123 (
talk)
David Beal
Thank you JarrahTree for your encouragement on the photographer bios I have been writing! Always good to know someone out there is keeping a critical (as in helpful) eye on things. David Beal was certainly important - lots of pics on Trove, SLNSW, but bio details are very impossible to track down...he's still alive, somewhere. I'm interested in that cracker shot of the running emus on your page - do tell me more!
But you have to be there, be alert, and have a camera!
Jamesmcardle(talk)21:44, 19 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Fremantle Fortress
Thank you for the source provided, it was invaluable for the
Fremantle Fortress article. Just one question, drawing on your local knowledge. The only one of the batteries I could not pin point the location for is Swanbourne Battery (See table). I presume it was near where
Campbell Barracks (Western Australia) are now but haven't been able to find anything definitive. Have you got any knowledge on the exact location?
Calistemon (
talk)
06:01, 3 May 2020 (UTC)reply
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