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Hi! I would like to make another article on Elizabeth Lanza if that is fine, but this time according to the guidelines. I am sorry for the incidents as of late as to the undisclosed COI and copyright infringements.
Also, have I understood it correctly that I am encouraged not to edit these articles related to my work directly, only suggest edits? That would make my job a little harder, but I understand if that is required of me.
I might be a little confused right now, but is it sufficient to disclose the COI anywhere else than on my user page and on every related article?
-- André N. Dannevig ( talk) 15:17, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
Also, another point, which is not an answer to your message, but which may possibly be helpful to you. My advice to new editors is that it is best to start by making small improvements to existing articles, rather than creating new articles. That way any mistakes you make will be small ones, and you won't have the discouraging experience of repeatedly seeing hours of work deleted. Gradually, you will get to learn how Wikipedia works, and after a while you will know enough about what is acceptable to be able to write whole new articles without fear that they will be deleted. Over the years I have found that editors who start by making small changes to existing articles and work up from there have a far better chance of having a successful time here than those who jump right into creating new articles from the start.
Finally, it is normal to post new talk page sections at the bottom of the page. It doesn't matter that you posted at the top this time, but I'm letting you know for the future, as there is a danger that a new post at the bottom of a page may not be noticed, as editors are likely to look for new stuff at the bottom. The editor who uses the pseudonym " JamesBWatson" ( talk) 15:51, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
-- André N. Dannevig ( talk) 09:46, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
Why would you delete incoming links to an article which was deleted through copyvio? (Elizabeth Lanza). Surely the subject is still notable. Geschichte ( talk) 15:57, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
Hi James, this is John from Wikimedia UK. Here in the UK we are trying to collect and improve information on the history and current state of social housing estates in London. The Myatt's Fields South stub is part of this training with people who live on estates to get them to create articles that are missing on social housing estates. At the moment it is a stub, but I feel that it does meet the notability criteria because there has been significant recent coverage of the dispute between Lambeth Council and the residents, including articles on the BBC, Standard and Inside Housing. It is also a historically important example of social housing, and many of those references which exist in the Lambeth Archive are due to be added in due course. I am going to strongly argue for the fact that the subject is notable historically and recently, and I do feel it is a shame that people are so quick to put AfD requests on subjects that exist as stubs initially. There are many articles full of advertising copy which are out there, but this is an article on an important social housing area which has attracted enough coverage to prove it is notable. Could you please look again and review your assessment that it makes 'No evidence of satisfying Wikipedia's notability guidelines.' Thanks. -- Jwslubbock ( talk) 21:37, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
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Hey. I blinked at the text on User:Securitash, that you have now deleted, and showed it to my son, who said a "Markov babbler" will create text like that. We have the article Markov chain, but not the babbler specifically. Wouldn't it be a great way to create articles? :-) Bishonen | talk 20:17, 5 May 2017 (UTC).
Hi James,
I appreciate the response you have given which makes Wikipedia content reliable and trustworthy. However, I wish to state that I have given neutral material on the company and consciously avoided promotional statements, which I believe is acceptable to Wikipedia. I am writing about a notable company that has been in business for three decades. Further, since I did not have references in my earlier article, I added the references and reposted. It was not a blind repeat. Could you advise where I am going wrong specifically? Jacob.ki ( talk) 13:12, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
It's a humorous reference to socks. I wasn't going to use the term because Hypn0Toad and Lord High…L3X1 are valid alts per policy. Sorry for the confusion. d.g. L3X1 (distant write) 12:41, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
Hello. I suggest you take a close look at Special:Contributions/David Hedlund, an editor who was indeffed for POV-pushing and disruptive editing on articles relating to alcohol and euphoriants in 2014, and socked for quite some time after that, but was unblocked by you about three weeks ago. Because he is now once again getting dangerously close to the kind of edits/editing that he was originally blocked for (see their edits and talk page). Cheers, - Tom | Thomas.W talk 11:38, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
Please see here. -- Kansas Bear ( talk) 00:39, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
John from Idegon ( talk) 05:21, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
tag from
Psychomotorics, which you proposed for deletion. I found English-language sources that use the term. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}}
back to the file. Instead, feel free to list it at
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks!
BlackcurrantTea (
talk) 13:50, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
Giving you a heads-up regarding Padmanabh Singh, I've reverted the same plagiarism twice now. – Skywatcher68 ( talk)
2606:a000:4946:1400:6141:ed84:1737:ef60, 2606:a000:4946:1400:6c1f:b72f:3d8a:7f96, 2606:a000:4946:1400:8075:4267:45da:e4d1, 2606:a000:4946:1400:24bd:8544:e618:9296, and 2606:a000:4946:1400:388b:ef22:8f4b:e10c. Possibly 2605:a601:8057:d400:9d90:1d1d:4eb8:ffe0 and 2605:a601:8057:d400:d9ca:8c7e:5211:9e48 as well. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 16:59, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
You Care To Restore That Page About Me... I Think I'm Notable Now LOL This Article Explains http://www.inc.com/john-boitnott/how-to-use-your-talent-to-attract-the-attention-of-major-brands.html Or You Could Always Just Google Me. Also I Have A Huge Cult Following Now With Over A Million Followers On Twitter http://Twitter.com/DJMany DJ Many56 ( talk) 11:38, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
The editor who uses the pseudonym " JamesBWatson" ( talk) 11:44, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Other Articles About Me http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2016/03/14/dj-many-twitter-personality-emanuel-thomas.html https://dotesports.com/call-of-duty/mlg-signs-dj-many-9267 DJ Many56 ( talk) 12:13, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Dear Sir, I would like to clarify with you that there wasn't any intention of posting any promotional or advertising content in Wikipedia against its policies. Planys Technologies is a high tech Indian startup in the field of robotics and represents the honourable ==Make in India== initiative by the Indian Government. I'm working currently at Planys and a fresher as an editor in wiki and hence correcting as and when an editor is indicating any corrections. The previous comment from an editor was accepted and we did represent Planys in the ==International ROBOSUB competition held at Sandiego== but I wasn't able to get any articles mentioning anything specific and so I didn't know how to link some content to prove its innocence. Sir, I humbly request you to guide me through this as I'm unable to figure out what more should I do to publish this article without any errors and deletions. Please Sir, I would really appreciate if you could take some time out and let me know how to proceed on this further. Thank you so much. AjithaKumar ( talk)AjithaKumar AjithaKumar ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:55, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Feminist has asked for a deletion review of Hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. — Cryptic 16:27, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
consistent with CIR I'm not pinging anyone, but if you have time take a gander here, please. Nonresponsive to feedback, repeat submissions to AFC and AGF/NPOV problems at MFD. They have been given ARBAP notice. NewsAndEventsGuy ( talk) 13:54, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
Glad you blocked that user; we may both have had too much patience, but I suppose too much is better than too little. It's kind of annoying to see that stuff still on the userpage (that you deleted per U5), copied from Meta. That's something I wonder about every time I come across it, often via WP:UAA. Do you know if anything can be done? If the answer is to go to Meta and ask them to delete it, I don't think I will, somehow. Too boring. Bishonen | talk 11:37, 26 May 2017 (UTC).
point well taken. I have edited my sandbox and have developed a proposal for the Trump resistance wiki page. Others have indicated that wiki is under developed and it was suggested by others that I contribute to that wiki. The info I have edited in my sandbox, is that worthy of Wikipedia? Please advise. Let us eat lettuce ( talk) 18:17, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
Hi James, Please disregard my previous post: I disagree with you on some details, but concur completely with the thrust of your conclusions here. Regards, Nick-D ( talk) 23:23, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
Paris1127 ( talk) 06:59, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Hello. Could you please let me know what William Bayne Fisher looked like before you deleted it? I was going to start a stub by using this reference and possibly some book reviews via JSTOR, but perhaps there was already more? Please ping me when you reply. Thank you. Zigzig20s ( talk) 16:47, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
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I've just tagged Ziad k abdelnour as G4 but note you have several similarly named articles on your list at User:JamesBWatson/Links#Check. If the previous behaviour were more recent I'd be raising an SPI. If there's not quacking there's at least a hint of Hoisin sauce. Regards, Cabayi ( talk) 15:37, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
thanks for pointing this out. I thought I added valid content. please see my attempt to engage in consensus decision making. Regardless of the perceived slat of subject matter, the Trump syndrome may be an ongoing phenomenon/development that may be a future wiki. Can we engage in consensus decision making here? Let us eat lettuce ( talk) 19:42, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
Yes. It wasn't a mistake (although of course it may turn out to have been). The original article was much shorter, and the creator probably long since gone, but the other editor I notified, who on the surface appeared to me to be involved in exactly the same business, had amended it most recently. That latest contributor seemed to me to be making rather suspect edits so I thought it would be as well to notify them too. Maybe there are "other" editors I should also have notified. Deb ( talk) 21:11, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
Please can you tell me that how to delete Wikipedia account Mohd Abid 125 ( talk) 17:45, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
Would you be willing to unprotect the above article? I would guess the IP hopper has moved on from Wikipedia by this point in time (which is 6 years after the original protection). -- Izno ( talk) 13:17, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
I agree recreating the page with a different title was not constructive at all but I was just not directed much by anyone towards how to actually mend things. I was not given enough of time to create the article in a better way. I still wish to do it, so could you tell me how to? Should I contact the administrator who deleted it? Refering to UrbanClap Bulle Shah ( talk) 16:03, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
A few IPs in that range, most recently 27.59.72.224, have been involved in changing portions of articles related to Kannada people to the Kannada language. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 17:03, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
Re your edit here: [1] Just read the first letters. The same user has now created the identical attack page at Sebring High School Meters ( talk) 04:26, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi James. JohnMark1 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is an obvious sock of John Mark Salvacion Bartolome ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). He has created the spam article JM Bartolome.- Mr X 19:28, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
An IP, 198.109.219.254, is adding the exact same content at Jackson High School (Michigan). The IP belongs to the public library in Jackson, so whatever you think is best. Thanks. John from Idegon ( talk) 18:58, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
FYI: WP:ANI# It's nice to know the Federal Aviation Administration is a school PCHS-NJROTC (Messages)Have a blessed day. 22:05, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
Only 2600:1017:b41c:5729:f0a3:8523:fc45:908b & 2600:1017:b41d:1341:412e:7db2:83f:e6b6 so far but wanted to let you know. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 16:28, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
Just a FYI Ancientluv143 may have a sock Kt62345 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) - FlightTime ( open channel) 15:33, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
86.30.162.121. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 19:25, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
About this: We've had problems with people invoking WP:EL when they should be thinking about WP:RS for years. Apparently, it really is counter-intuitive, and we were pointing that out to get their attention (A: "This doesn't apply to refs!" B: "So about this ref..." A: "No! Really! This actually completely totally intentionally cross-my-heart-and-hope-to-die doesn't apply to refs!!!!" B: "Oh. Um, are you sure about that?").
But perhaps we are finally past that point. :-) WhatamIdoing ( talk) 18:26, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
Hello there James. I see you deleted the James Fell (author) page on June 14, 2017. /info/en/?search=James_Fell_(author) I was wondering if this might have been a mistake? DGG submitted it for deletion June 3, 2016 and the page was repaired soon afterward. The "Unambiguous advertising or promotion" cleaned up. The reason you give for your deletion in 2017 was for the same reason, but I can find no record of any comments or discussion. Possibly the dates looked like it has been 11 days between DGG's deletion and not a year and 11 days? Hoping to hear from you soon. Thanks! Sgerbic ( talk) 21:19, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
NBC News and ABC News articles in particular. I've added NBC News to requests for page protection. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 23:45, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
I'm sorry not for carefully following the Wikipedia guideline. I'm not an employee of this company, but a self-employed contractor. Although my intention was to summarize the information, my proposal is to delete these pages especially as the notability is thought to be trivial. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ktnk ( talk • contribs) 15:01, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
On Khal Drogo, both User:Arron-A and User:Eastwesteros are socks of User:User-4488 and User: MaxPrem respectively. Should I just revert to last clean version? 2600:387:6:805:0:0:0:B3 ( talk) 03:39, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
Hi JamesBWatson, I am sorry this was considered to be a promotional page. That was not the intent. KindLink has been featured in the news today (BBC Click programme: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08qlwlk/click-great-balls-of-fire). Since then, we have started receiving hundreds of requests for explanations and further information on the product - hence the decision to create a wiki page, as KindLink seems to be important to a considerable amount of people. All other giving platforms (Justgiving, globalgiving, localgiving, charity checkout etc) seems to have a page on wikipedia with similar contents and they have not been deleted. I am very happy to edit the page according to your/other admins' suggestions if you think it is too much promotional. -- AdrianoMancinelli ( talk) 11:40, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for advice on the Nathan Asher page. Truth is I just wanted to create a page I knew something about. It was not in any way promotional, as the band has been disbanded for at least eight years. I thought the sourcing was solid and written in the form of other bands on wikipedia. I don't know any one from the former band. I just used to listen to them years ago. I thought they deserved an entry, given their reach on the southeastern coast of America about a decade ago.
With that said, I hope you will look again at the page and see that it was not promotional and that it met the guidelines for a band.
Gregwrites ( talk) 20:54, 29 May 2017 (UTC)Gregwrites
Formerly dasEsArts
My mistake, I have also checked, it just says promotion. Not self. Apologies.
Thanks for the help — Preceding unsigned comment added by GriffinKemp97 ( talk • contribs) 16:59, 5 June 2017
I have read the comment you left. About how I am not capable of distinguishing promotion and neutral writing. It is therefore that I have specifically used a neutral, stable and reliable source for that part. How else am I supposed to explain what Playtech BGT Sports does without quoiting their website or other reliable sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thombinder ( talk • contribs) 15:10, 8 June 2017
Thank you for your comment. I'm working for the Korea Daily and there is no Wikipedia information about the company. I'm fixing the mistakes so let me know if you have more advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joongangdailynews ( talk • contribs) 22:02, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
2602:304:CE7C:140:0:0:0:0/64 ( block range · block log ( global) · WHOIS (partial))
Hi JamesBWatson,
Could you give this IP range another block? They've returned on 2602:304:CE7C:140:E4AF:9F33:93E0:4F5A ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) and although that IP is currently blocked, they will likely return shortly on another IP within the ::/64 range. Thanks. 193.106.43.180 ( talk) 22:07, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi James,
We did this on the advice of our professor for a final project. And yes, it is a team project with other members, it has been a steep learning curve for us in regards to adding substantial contributions and learning how to use the sandbox. Yes I am currently going through and adding our edits piece by piece so not to override other editors work, then we will continue to work on the opinions language. Any other advice would be greatly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Team4 2017 ( talk • contribs) 22:03, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
I am the only one editing using this account. We are doing the collaborations on another platform. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Team4 2017 ( talk • contribs) 01:50, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi JamesBWatson,
Would you mind blocking this IP range again? They've re-surfaced as 2601:805:4201:1737:28DD:F92:63E9:4899 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) (and although that individual IP is already blocked, blocking the /64 range for good measure won't hurt...) Thanks. 2A07:5740:600:0:0:0:A940:A7C4 ( talk) 04:50, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for your feedback and clear explanations to the edits you have made. In the future I will ensure I will take care of all the suggestions you have made for any new edits.
Priya2017 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Priya2017 ( talk • contribs) 04:58, 28 June 2017
Disruptive edits have been coming from the 2606:a000:45c7:9200 range since at least January of last year. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 02:17, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
2600:1017:b413:5531:bd01:d64a:eff:d619 @ Macy's talk page. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 19:44, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
2600:387:b:3::a2 was blocked, vandal switched to 2600:387:b:9::83. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 20:01, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
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?fuzzy=1
to the URL, as with
Special:Undelete?fuzzy=1. Currently the search only finds pages that exactly match the search term.I saw that you protected it to prevent malicious page moves, but you also protected it so only extended confirmed users could it in addition to moving it. Did you accidentally place edit protection on the page? (The log summary said "Repeatedly moved to a user talk page of a nonexistent user.") — MRD 20 14 00:15, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Do you remember anything about the deletion of Return of Kings (blog)? I can't find a discussion, maybe it was prodded? How do you find out this sort of thing? I ask because the article was recently re-created as Return of Kings. You removed the link to it at Roosh V so I thought you might remember, or know how to figure it out. Kendall-K1 ( talk) 23:47, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
Wallnot ( talk) 14:13, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Wallnot ( talk) 16:42, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi, James, I seem to have run foul of an editor on the From Russia with Love talk page. Rather than discussion of issues regarding the plot subsection, I'm getting ad hominem belligerency. Could you advise me how to get the dialogue transferred to a wider discussion forum than just the talk page? Thanks, Mzilikazi1939 ( talk) 13:33, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice. Personally I'd be happy to abide by a third opinion. It looks like we've got it sorted, though. Mzilikazi1939 ( talk) 12:24, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
Don't know what's going on with 2605:e000:7d or 2602:306:b8e8:d960 but they sure have a bee in their bonnet regarding Pep flags. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 02:45, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
Only 2601:989:8200:95e0:dd3e:d8e9:4f37:8eb1 (blocked) & 2601:989:8200:95e0:a131:6ce:3778:d466 (not yet blocked) so far. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 22:32, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi JamesBWatson. I noticed that a user named Trevorhacker1803 registered just the other day and has set about editing, whereas I noticed you blocked Trevorhacker ( talk · contribs) in May. Quite clearly a sockpuppet from the name alone. Ss 112 05:54, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
I noticed 51.235.28.240 & 78.95.229.131 recently started editing the same few articles in Arabic. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 01:35, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
I've just nominated Shayan Khan at AFD. While going through the AfD-notice routine, I discovered that you had blocked the article creator, User:MinkyThePet, in April 2016. My overheated imagination suggests that it might be worth having a look behind the scenes at those named and IP editors who have been heavily tweaking that article since July 2016... Yrs, Narky Blert ( talk) 19:24, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
Created the page with faithful refference Monuwara ( talk) 05:10, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Prem Khan (Actor to Prem Khan , unnecessary disambiguation Monuwara ( talk) 05:11, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Prem Khan (Actor Monuwara ( talk) 05:12, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
I hope you will block me for six months. I found your name in Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to consider placing self-requested blocks. -- Marvellous Spider-Man 06:24, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
Seems to me that administrators semi-protecting Johnny Ortiz for a week at a time hardly accomplishes anything. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 20:32, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
Hey JamesBWatson, can you help deal with these accounts JuiianPema, Juiianpe1, and JuiianPe. I Suspect they are sockpuppets and even after warning one of them, they still continue to do disruptive editing. I already posted them on the Administrators' noticeboard and hope could deal them as well. Nuobgu ( talk) 20:41, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi,James,
I am Blades from the ACC team.Can you shed some light on the block of User:172.97.236.171.I am comfortable with the email-route too!Cheers! Winged Blades Godric 13:52, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi there "James". First of all, I'm sorry that you feel I have not answered Maxim's question sufficiently and moreover, I apologize for not having answered your follow-up by now. I hope you don't mind me coming here for a quick inquiry. I've been mulling over that question for almost a day now but still am not completely sure what you expected. Do you mean cases like an AfD where people disagree whether a certain source is reliable and/or independent or whether the coverage is "significant" ( WP:GNG)? Regards So Why 14:38, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
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Hi, JamesB. 24.117.145.226 has yet to contribute anything other than word salad and hasn't been dissuaded by being blocked for a week. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 20:36, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi James - You just deleted the article for the Propane Education and Research Council for: Editor's summary: G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion ( TW)
I was working with User:Doc James to remove the sources that were a COI, and only reference the law enacted by Congress that mandated the creation of the council, which is located on congress.gov.
I posted the changes on the article's talk page as requested by Doc James for discussion. Were those suggested changes rejected? Ryandutcher ( talk) 20:53, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi @ JamesBWatson:, i am interested in writing an article about Chioma Obiadi, I wanted to know why this page was deleted. MiMi139 ( talk) 13:32, 5 August 2017 (UTC) Copied from Chioma obiadi. Narutolovehinata5 t c csd new 13:33, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
This ip address is blocked 2A03:2880:0:0:0:0:0:0/34 when I edit from it. This ip address is not a proxy. Please note that I am using this ip address from Free Basics website. Zafar24 Talk 22:13, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
Hello James B Watson -- I write to ask how this COI thing works, under the covers. Obnoxious posters I understand. Anyone who looks at their work can see. COI and sockpuppets require secret CU investigations. It reminds me of the FISA court. We citizens (the editors) need to have absolute confidence in the honesty of that court. We are trusting them to do the right thing for the right reasons. What kinds of checks are there on the deletion of articles? I understand the need to discipline the bad guys, but when a page is deleted, the work of every unwitting volunteer is deleted too. I point you to talk:INTTRA Inc.. The article is gone. I'm sure there are readers who would like to know how shipping documents find their way around the world.
I don't have any particular dog in the fight. Yes the company is just down the road from me. I worked for their competitor more than twenty years ago. And yes, there is some investigation going on about me, but I have heard nothing more since the initial allegation was made. Are the articles I created likely to be deleted too? Rhadow ( talk) 17:06, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Hello Kudpung กุดผึ้ง, Jasper Deng, and JamesBWatson -- Thank you all for reading my posts and taking the time to respond. It is time-consuming, I know, to respond to messages of more than 140 characters. The matter we are dealing with here is complicated. If WP is worth improving, then it is worth our time to lay out the issue in its entirety and discuss it. If we can together make a suggestion or two that improves the process then we will have done our parts. An ecosystem as large as WP doesn't stand revolution; it must improve by evolution. When the ship is large, so must be the rudder. It takes some loud shouts to be heard. I would like to address the totality of this situation as I see it. First, it requires a look at the individual parts, then a look at how they work together as a system. What looks like a good isolated policy may have unintended negative consequences when it is part of a complex system.
As to CU investigations and contact with the subject of an article suspected as being the work of a paid editor, it is only practical that these investigations be carried out by a sole, trusted member of the team. Because the task is so well defined, I'm not worried about the accuracy of the outcome. The investigator either discovers that there is IP address overlap, or not. The subject either admits he or she paid for editing or not. If I suspected the investigator would alter the findings before reporting to COIN or sockpuppet conversation, I wouldn't be here. You'll get no argument from me on these processes.
What triggers an investigation is problematic. You sent me to WP:COIN. There I found TxFactChecker, with whom I had disagreements about POV on a politician's page. I shed no tear when TxFactChecker left. The editing was annoying. A look at the history of Dan Huberty will show I wasn't the only one who felt this way. There was another feisty editor there, PoliticalPoster007, fighting on the same topics. The straightforward response would have been to take them both out the woodshed and chastise them for NPOV and rapid-revert conduct. Instead, TxFactChecker is cited on the COIN discussion. Having similar views to another is not sufficient evidence of collusion. COIN is, however, a means to a relatively prompt set of sanctions, up and including expulsion from the community. I get it; if you have an objective, you use the most expedient tool to accomplish the goal.
I'm not worried about automated sweeps of IP addresses either. Two editors sharing an IP address could be husband and wife. Fifteen could be students at a university. When shared addresses are working on the same politicians, garage bands, or commercial entities, then my eyebrows lift. At least, though, it's a robot looking at the population, not a specific set of people.
An investigation needs to start somewhere. Yes, it could be on the basis of a not-very-well-camouflaged userid or content copied from a subject's website. It becomes problematic when the charge originates from or is supported an editor's use of em-dash or the phrase, "my two cents." In that case the accuser needs only post the accusation and never return to support the position. It is a cost-free way to get into a fight. In politics, it's called, "ring and run." When there is no cost associated with making an accusation, especially an unfounded one, it's going to happen with some regularity. When no offense is discovered, it has wasted a lot of people's time. When the investigation proceeds to its conclusion and an innocent editor pays, that is ultimately bad for the community. How can that happen?
The DUCK theory troubles me. Where there is smoke there is fire. This is not simply a superstition held by an uneducated few. It is institutionalized. Indeed, an admin told me this, "However, with or without CU evidence, passing a duck test is often sufficient for a block." This was in support of statement that protesting one's innocence is evidence of guilt. Yes, it is a dunking stool test. If this theory were applied in the real world, a twenty-five year-old black man with a prior arrest would have not a chance of acquittal. Parenthetically, I observe that failing the duck test would be a more accurate description.
So here we are, a week after the first mention of me on the sockpuppet investigation page. We've wasted time, you (all) and me. I've been offered the platitude that all Wikipedians are invited to volunteer for any role. That my be the published policy, but individual discussions have a different flavor. To wit: "[T]here is a general consensus that users with less than 500 substantial manspace edits may not have had sufficient contact with our policies and guidelines to be implementing policies and guidelines regarding deletion." First of all, to a new editor, it's jargon. Second, it is a not-so-subtle put-down, hiding behind general consensus citation needed. It would be more straightforward to say, "I disagree with your recommendation to [keep / delete] this article. I predict that with five hundred or so edits, you'll likely agree with the consensus on this one." It's not worthwhile discussing this case. The original article and its talk page are gone. All that remains is a deletion discussion with this allegation: "Also, I observe that World's Lamest Critic has an interesting contribution history. Their very first edits included Jimbo's talk page, a sockpuppet investigation, and an AfD. These are not the sorts of edits one would expect from a new user. Looks like a duck to me." The problem is that it was made before a CU investigation was concluded. It therefore assumes facts not in evidence.
If there is one concrete change I suggest, it is the retention or deletion of articles and their associated talk pages in parallel with the discussions. This would require some thought. I understand it has to do with copyright law. Nevertheless, it would prevent the kinds of quicksand that gave rise to this particular thread. I stumbled onto this INTTRA article and worked on it. It interests me. The company is near me, and I used to work in that industry. What I didn't know at the time is that the article had already been created and deleted before, perhaps multiple times. Simply by touching it, I was ensaring myself in a long standing controversy. It was a tar baby. Now there will never again be an article about INTTRA, as far as I understand. If I had known that, I wouldn't have touched it in the first place. I suppose that a complete history cannot follow a now-empty namespace, but a warning would be nice. As my co-defendants have discovered, the deletion of talk pages takes the wind out of their own self-defense. All that remains is the accusation on a discussion page.
Please accept these observations for what they are, an attempt to build a healthier WP ecosystem. Rhadow ( talk) 14:56, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi again. 108.26.154.59, 108.56.149.132, and 108.49.239.226 make similar edits regarding Pixar movies, characters in the Cars franchise in particular. The latter two only seem to be active while the first is blocked. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 20:58, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
You blocked him for creating unsatisfactory stubs on educational institutions. OlloKHAN is now editing the same articles and creating more. Quack quack. SPI has been filed. Robert McClenon ( talk) 17:12, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
[9] On a serious note, on a duck call like that one should I have slapped a G5 on it without waiting for the SPI to close? Meters ( talk) 20:52, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi JamesBWatson. I've noticed a few more disruptive Littlemixfan!, a possible Hercules123! new account. It looks like a WP:DUCK. Destiny Leo ( talk) 15:57, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi, JamesB. 101.212.188.195 received a Level 4im and switched to 101.212.189.43. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 14:30, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
Normally, I would never waste an admin's time with a simple content dispute, but this guy needs an attitude adjustment, at very least. A month ago, on the Ted Bundy article, an editor changed "died in the electric chair" to "executed in the electric chair", which I thought was redundant and unnecessary. (Does anyone die of natural causes in an electric chair?) So I reverted, per WP:BRD, and invited him to discuss it. Apparently he didn't think it worth discussing, because he never responded; but another user reverted my revert with the message, "There, fuck your edit war, this is good enough". (One revert is an edit war?) I referred the matter to the talk page, where I received a series of insults, but no good argument for the change. I allowed 3 weeks for him to gain consensus for the change, with no responses at all, then changed it back. Of course, he immediately reverted me, citing a "3-week stable version" -- which is laughable. Ordinarily I would just walk away from a minor dispute, but last time I conceded a point to this guy, all I got was a bunch of gloating, and now this -- so I feel obliged to seek administrative assistance; sorry to trouble you. I'm already at 1.5RR on the article, so I can't even revert his silly revert without him accusing me of edit warring again. (A quick scan of his talk page shows that he's had other edit warring issues.) I don't care about the single-word change at issue -- I care that this guy is the kind of person who regards editing as a competition, and is driving away good content creators. (I may be leaving myself, after 8 years -- it just isn't worth the aggravation.) If you can help in any way, such as semi-protecting the article with the original wording until he can gain some consensus for his change, or explaining the facts of WP to him, I would greatly appreciate it. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/ talk to me! 13:00, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
On IBM, IP user added email addresses here (both in the edited text itself and in the edit summary). I've reverted the edit itself, but the personal information is still in the history (both places). Can you please revdel? (I pulled your id from Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to handle RevisionDelete requests). TJRC ( talk) 18:40, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
ʍaɦʋɛօtʍ ( talk) 00:36, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi, JamesB. A particularly confrontational block evading IP hopper is over there; I don't think a 31 hour block is going to do much. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 22:21, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2017).
Hi James, I saw you blocked Trevorhacker several months ago for evading their block and adding unsourced content. I'm quite sure they have re-registered as Pinkfan03, considering Pinkfan03 has edited both Pink and Jennifer Lopez topics (adding unsourced information to their articles yet again— here, for example), as well as even going to Trevorhacker's talk page saying they think they should be unblocked (quite obviously Trevor) and then blanking Trevorhacker's talk page of a block notice. Ss 112 03:37, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
Disclaimer: I am new to Wikipedia and don't know how this place works. This request concerns a page on Hinduism. If you believe that this issue does not come under your domain, then please don't ignore this; rather suggest the name of another admin who CAN handle this issue.
I wish to inform you that there has been an "edit war" between me and the user Ms Sarah Welch ( /info/en/?search=User:Ms_Sarah_Welch) regarding the article Isha Upanishad. I put "edit war in quotes because it got resolved pretty quickly, and was in no way an actual conflict(look here- /info/en/?search=Talk:Isha_Upanishad ,if you don't believe me). I only started nine days ago and she has been an established user for a long time. The reason for the "war" was that I had quoted from a non-RS based source, which was the version of the Isopanisad published by the Bhaktivedanta Book Trust, which is also the publisher of THE MOST widely read edition of the Bhagavad Gita ( /info/en/?search=Bhaktivedanta_Book_Trust), in the whole world. Therefore, in no way do I consider this version to be a poorly known version. The other editors who have come before me have quoted the book, and the book is included in the list of references in the article itself! Still, I agree that mantras can be interpreted in many ways, but at the very least, I should be able to post the original mantras, IN SANSKRIT, without translation. The original mantras of course, cannot differ. Only the translation differs. Therefore, I request that you have a word with her about this issue. While in no way do I question the fact that she is an established editor, I firmly disagree with her over this issue. The "edit war" took place 9 days ago, and during this time, I have put much thought into this. I also believe that the opinion of other editors should also be taken, and that Ms Sarah Welch should not have a Monopoly over the page. I expect a courteous response, admin. Thanks, Lie Cleaner HK.
PS : If you think that you are not the person I should be asking, then please suggest another admin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lie Cleaner HK ( talk • contribs) 12:49, 23 August 2017
I just went through the Wikipedia:Article_wizard and the article passed all the criteria for a Wikipedia article that I can tell. I contested the speedy deletion tag, and nobody ever responded to me on the talk page. Except User_talk:Robert_McClenon falsely accused me of "remov[ing] speedy deletion notices from pages [I] have created" Zaurus ( talk) 14:04, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
Sorry about linking CIA to Donald Trump, I thought it was odd what it said in the source article but I wasn't sure of what it was. It was an accident. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NoahRaso ( talk • contribs) 14:04, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your comments on Rodrigo Tavares. I further edited the text to ensure there is no connection with the Granito Partners page. I compared sentence by sentence. Using the copyright match software, the result was "Total match candidates found: 0 (before eliminating redundant matches)". I hope you will accept this new version. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Highpeak100 ( talk • contribs) 10:56, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
Hello JamesBWatson how are doing? I'm writing you concerning Jasmine dawda page, you've been on the page a while back and said there're certainly claims of significance and some other editors thinks so too, the speedy deletion tag was removed by an editor and a debate was started for the page but since then no top editor has contributed as to what the future of the page will be even though there have been 10 edits to improve the page by 4 different editors. References have been added and other major improvement have been done to the page. I will appreciate it if you can use your experience as a top editor in this community to take the decision as to what should be done to the page. I spent days piecing this page and the references together, I don't want to see it go to the bin like that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mode9 ( talk • contribs) 10:58, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi there,
Let me explain my situation to you so that we can help each other. I'm a former student of P. Porto and did a paper on Porto Design Factory (PDF) for the end of my degree. The main problem that I had with this was that it's difficult to find reliable information about PDF and the Design Factory Global Network (DFGN) on the internet without it being on their website. So I, personally, wanted to help other students with the same problem to have access to that information. I talked directly to Porto Design Factory asking them permission to use the text of their website in a Wikipedia article and they gave me permission to use it, knowing that the information that it's on Wikipedia can be edited and used by anyone without giving credit to the author. The situation is simple, I'm a former student that wants to help other students. I have no connection to PDF and they did not ask me to create the article to promote themselves. I just meet a lot of international students that didn't have any access to the information because the website is not very good for master degree papers for instance.
I would very much appreciate your opinion in what is the best solution to this situation. Thank you, DotPone — Preceding unsigned comment added by DotPone ( talk • contribs) 11:21, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
Hey James can you please take a look at: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special:Log/delete&page=HPE_OneView. You moved it for me a couple days ago, but DGG deleted it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Llrosa ( talk • contribs) 20:15, 21 July 2017
Just found another account he was using called Gggtt, can you block it or do you need a checkuser? 82.132.247.196 ( talk) 02:12, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
Can you please add a semi protection with longer period against hoax and vandalism on the following articles: List of radio stations in Central Luzon, List of radio stations in the Cordillera Administrative Region, List of radio stations in the Bicol Region, List of radio stations in Southern Tagalog, List of ABS-CBN Corporation channels and stations, List of People's Television Network stations and channels, List of GMA Network stations, List of Radio Philippines Network affiliate stations, List of GMA News TV stations, List of GMA Network radio stations, and My Only Radio.
Nikbert16 ( talk) 7:00, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
Hey James, just wanted to thank you for your support on my talk page ( /info/en/?search=User_talk:80.245.197.109).
You asked why I don't create an account...I actually do have an account ( /info/en/?search=User:Steevm), I've just forgotten the credentials and didn't particularly care, as I no longer edit Wiki as much as I used to (as you can probably tell given this reply is over a year since you messaged me). Generally I only edit when I'm reading an article and notice a typo/grammatical errors etc. - then I'll fix them. I appreciate that this makes communication difficult. Maybe I should just figure out what my credentials are again :) 80.245.197.109 ( talk) 13:41, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi,
I wanted to let you know that the article Pressterror, nominated for deletion, shouldn't be deleted. This topic is featured in an episode of Big Night Out, broadcasted by Viceland. In the episode there is plenty of objective information given about this musical project. I also added links of viceland's episode in the reference section of the Pressterror wiki page.
Let me know what you think about that.
Greetings — Preceding unsigned comment added by HeerJ ( talk • contribs) 10:34, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
I think Category:Lorde, which was deleted in 2013, can be created now. Precedent has typically deleted those eponymous categories with only albums and songs subcategory and maybe a discography page, but this is additional content now, including a "songs written by" category and and a list of awards page. If there is objection, perhaps it could be renominated. Thanks. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 01:14, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
Just saw your edit. Many sources talk about the erased content, what's Wikipedia usage for this ? Can i still use the links talking about this to source the article ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MangoZona ( talk • contribs) 20:05, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
You deleted /info/en/?search=UK_Onshore_Oil_and_Gas - I don't think this was necessary. A re-wording would have sufficed. Please restore this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UKOOG7 ( talk • contribs) 16:00, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi, you deleted this page stating "Pure vandalism and blatant hoaxes" and "Pages that disparage, threaten, intimidate, or harass their subject or some other entity, and serve no other purpose". I have no idea what article you were reading but nothing I put in the page I created, did any of those things. I listed our how the group, followed by over 100,000 people came to fruition and some reasons behind it. I did however, accidentally edit another page I had open, thinking it was the one I created?? Either way, my editing of the page I created were all valid and as it was a draft I assumed I could edit it until i got it correct. Could I please get a bit more information on it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TomJenx ( talk • contribs) 12:43, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
Highya,
Just wanted to find out why you have not posted a closing comment on the closing of the AfD?
regards -- Mickey ☠ Dangerez 16:50, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
I'm doing a page about a township in Mexico https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolfo_lopez_mateos_(localidad), but it gets keep being deleted as irrelevant by a dude from Spain, https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario:Tarawa1943 you can find the basic information about it here,
https://en.mexico.pueblosamerica.com/i/adolfo-lopez-mateos-zacatal/
http://www.telepaisa.com/pueblos.php?action=poblacion_ver&poblacion_id=257797
also I'm not creating pages in serbian, just adding information and will translate later https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolfo_L%C3%B3pez_Mateos,_Jes%C3%BAs_Carranza
https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Op%C5%A1tina_Jes%C3%BAs_Carranza,_Veracruz
maybe he should first move to Mexico before starting deleting towns there. I can post that information anywhere I want, because I created that page, you can find it here https://everipedia.org/wiki/adolfo-lopez-mateos-locality/
and on many places of the internet, you people do not own wikipedia, stop taking everything so serious and deleting other people's work — Preceding unsigned comment added by Usernet123u ( talk • contribs) 08:32, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
== please semi unprotect Dick Strawbridge talk page, need to add army abuse info from BBC news today — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.171.202.31 ( talk) 17:07, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
You moved this to a not very well done disam page without leaving redirects. Nearly 100 pages redirected there, all but one or two referring to the Titian. You then failed to do the post move clean-up. Thanks. Johnbod ( talk) 13:25, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
Given the last comment on the talk page (which ought to be blocked and revdeled) removing page protection is very probably not a good move. I'll let you know if the editor involved phones me again (we really do not need a replay of the malarkey on this page all over again). Andy Dingley ( talk) 19:56, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for your kind advice can you tell me how can I edit a existing article because my article got deleted even before completing it and now I find it difficult to retrieve it back and edit. " Bernadiene"( talk)
Hi, I have few questions! There are tons of other hotels they have their own wiki pages done but why can't this hotel have its wiki page done! Also I just did the content again I had more details added to justify why it needs to be up on Wikipedia. If other similar properties can have pages done why not this hotel, I mean its not fair to have a page deleted in less than 10 minutes once it's created. Can you kindly advise me how to have this page up and I will be putting few other pages up too on few other locations in Sri Lanka. My first article gets continuously rejected and but just because it was previously done by few other users doesn't mean that every article done on this page is not factual. Bernadiene" ( talk)
Thank you for welcoming me! I would love to see if I could help people with template requests. Meanwhile, I guess I will be generally improving Wikipedia.-- TruDev ( talk) 12:43, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
Hey James, long time no see. Just FYI, I've re-blocked that IP with an oversight block and suppressed all their edits. Their edits are libellous and so easily qualify for suppression. If or when they resurface, could you email the oversight team (oversight-en-wp at wikipedia.org or Special:EmailUser/Oversight)? I can't guarantee it'll be me who picks it up because I'm not so active these days and the time I do have I'm trying to devote to article-writing, but someone will deal with it. Thanks, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:57, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
Can you revoke TPA privileges for Megerflit ( talk · contribs)? Looks like he's now just resorting to just threats on his talk page after the appeal got declined. Thanks. theinstantmatrix ( talk) 18:36, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi James, probably you suggested a removal of my article without even reading it, not fair! There's a whole PDF laid out to materialise the facts you ignored. Thanks, LadyWilco ( talk) 22:22, 24 September 2017 (UTC)LW
Hey James, I have a blog opportunity I wanted to discuss with you. Could you email me when you get a change? Email is on my user page.
CMCreator900 ( talk) 00:18, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
Hey James,
I already emailed a few people and so Wiki throttled my usage temporarily. If you wouldn't mind emailing me though that would be great. Thank you.
CMCreator900 ( talk) 02:35, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
Hello, JamesBWatson, Thank you for your comments and suggestions. The powers that be here where I work are rather antsy to get this first basic article created and approved by the powers that be at Wikipedia. Reason for the antsyness, not known. So, I am in a position where I have to dive right in, absorb as much as possible and start creating this first article. I much appreciate your suggestion of smaller steps at first, however, not possible for me at this moment. I'm endeavoring to study as much as I can as I go along and to get things right to the greatest degree possible. I am backing the article up as I go along in PDF format. I read one Editor's Help request regarding their personal Sandbox having been wiped and that Editor had no backup. Suggestions were offered to that Editor as to how that Sandbox may be recovered - hence, the reason for my PDF backups of my Sandbox. Thank you for your input and suggestions. Please note that I am a paid editor and that the necessary declarations have been made on my User page and User/Talk page. Best regards, Verbwright981 ( talk) 20:09, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi
You deleted the page Gaurav Kotli under a A7 CSD tag. The article had sources in Hindu etc and I would like to see if I can restore it (by translating the sources, which I informed are reliable), I am not a sysop so can't see the page anymore, please could you paste a copy in my userspace. User:Aguyintobook/Articles/Gaurav Kotli. as this would save the time and hassle of a deletion review and whatnot. --- Α Guy Into Books™ § ( Message) - 20:44, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Sorry about Joeboy. I guess I sort of showed my Wikipedia:WikiBadger tendencies. Again sorry. I will go inactive a couple of days to punish myself. Bobherry Talk Edits 14:31, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
Heads up, User:Impedehim is back writing incoherent essays, you may want to block and nuke. – Train2104 ( t • c) 01:06, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Please forgive my ignorance; I'm new to Wikipedia.
It was my understanding that in my Wikipedia "sandbox," the content I create there isn't public (at least, that's what the sandbox description says). If that's the case, why did you delete the article I was experimenting with? I was just trying to learn some formatting by trial-and-error; I had no intention of actually having that content on Wikipedia at this time. Thanks for your time.
Thanks for your reply and restoring the content. I will definitely make sure I do my research before posting or editing publicly. Thanks again. Rieggs ( talk) 16:47, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi,
there is a new NJ State Law that has provisions that open many works to the public domain. I have added a citation to this page /info/en/?search=Copyright_status_of_work_by_U.S._subnational_governments#New_Jersey . You were the user who deleted the template based on old laws in ~2014.
The new law says: " Open data and datasets made available by an agency on the open data website, unless subject to a disclosed legal restriction, shall be treated as license-free, subject to reuse, and not subject to copyright restrictions. " ( https://njlaw.rutgers.edu/collections/njstats/showsect.php?title=52&chapter=18A§ion=234.5&actn=getsect ) which sounds as public domain as it can be :)
Any chance I can remake the template? 13:55, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2017).
Hi, JamesB. I'm recommending a rangeblock for 167.88.224.XXX. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 17:28, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
Tamil language was oldest surviving classical language Declared by UNESCO.
Oldest Tamil inscription dated 540 BCE. Tholkappiyam dated 540 BCE. But in you blog that was mentioned as 2 nd century BCE.
Tamil also one of Ancient classical languages.
Chinese, Hebrew, Sanskrit, latin, Greek and Tamil was Ancient classical languages of the world.
Proto Dravidian language also Tamil. You can read about that. I have written that in my Quora page. Parun3247 ( talk) 13:54, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
Much obliged; that had completely slipped my mind. Yunshui 雲 水 16:02, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
You got mail. Not all that important, and relatively short, at two paragraphs and 116 words, but it's mail nonetheless. :)
Drmies (
talk) 16:07, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
The answer's in my username. It's a placeholder for now, but when I have time, I'll be replacing most of the Rick Sanchez information. Sanchez Rick ( talk) 17:15, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
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Hi! I would like to make another article on Elizabeth Lanza if that is fine, but this time according to the guidelines. I am sorry for the incidents as of late as to the undisclosed COI and copyright infringements.
Also, have I understood it correctly that I am encouraged not to edit these articles related to my work directly, only suggest edits? That would make my job a little harder, but I understand if that is required of me.
I might be a little confused right now, but is it sufficient to disclose the COI anywhere else than on my user page and on every related article?
-- André N. Dannevig ( talk) 15:17, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
Also, another point, which is not an answer to your message, but which may possibly be helpful to you. My advice to new editors is that it is best to start by making small improvements to existing articles, rather than creating new articles. That way any mistakes you make will be small ones, and you won't have the discouraging experience of repeatedly seeing hours of work deleted. Gradually, you will get to learn how Wikipedia works, and after a while you will know enough about what is acceptable to be able to write whole new articles without fear that they will be deleted. Over the years I have found that editors who start by making small changes to existing articles and work up from there have a far better chance of having a successful time here than those who jump right into creating new articles from the start.
Finally, it is normal to post new talk page sections at the bottom of the page. It doesn't matter that you posted at the top this time, but I'm letting you know for the future, as there is a danger that a new post at the bottom of a page may not be noticed, as editors are likely to look for new stuff at the bottom. The editor who uses the pseudonym " JamesBWatson" ( talk) 15:51, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
-- André N. Dannevig ( talk) 09:46, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
Why would you delete incoming links to an article which was deleted through copyvio? (Elizabeth Lanza). Surely the subject is still notable. Geschichte ( talk) 15:57, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
Hi James, this is John from Wikimedia UK. Here in the UK we are trying to collect and improve information on the history and current state of social housing estates in London. The Myatt's Fields South stub is part of this training with people who live on estates to get them to create articles that are missing on social housing estates. At the moment it is a stub, but I feel that it does meet the notability criteria because there has been significant recent coverage of the dispute between Lambeth Council and the residents, including articles on the BBC, Standard and Inside Housing. It is also a historically important example of social housing, and many of those references which exist in the Lambeth Archive are due to be added in due course. I am going to strongly argue for the fact that the subject is notable historically and recently, and I do feel it is a shame that people are so quick to put AfD requests on subjects that exist as stubs initially. There are many articles full of advertising copy which are out there, but this is an article on an important social housing area which has attracted enough coverage to prove it is notable. Could you please look again and review your assessment that it makes 'No evidence of satisfying Wikipedia's notability guidelines.' Thanks. -- Jwslubbock ( talk) 21:37, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
References in the article
My searches
Hey. I blinked at the text on User:Securitash, that you have now deleted, and showed it to my son, who said a "Markov babbler" will create text like that. We have the article Markov chain, but not the babbler specifically. Wouldn't it be a great way to create articles? :-) Bishonen | talk 20:17, 5 May 2017 (UTC).
Hi James,
I appreciate the response you have given which makes Wikipedia content reliable and trustworthy. However, I wish to state that I have given neutral material on the company and consciously avoided promotional statements, which I believe is acceptable to Wikipedia. I am writing about a notable company that has been in business for three decades. Further, since I did not have references in my earlier article, I added the references and reposted. It was not a blind repeat. Could you advise where I am going wrong specifically? Jacob.ki ( talk) 13:12, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
It's a humorous reference to socks. I wasn't going to use the term because Hypn0Toad and Lord High…L3X1 are valid alts per policy. Sorry for the confusion. d.g. L3X1 (distant write) 12:41, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
Hello. I suggest you take a close look at Special:Contributions/David Hedlund, an editor who was indeffed for POV-pushing and disruptive editing on articles relating to alcohol and euphoriants in 2014, and socked for quite some time after that, but was unblocked by you about three weeks ago. Because he is now once again getting dangerously close to the kind of edits/editing that he was originally blocked for (see their edits and talk page). Cheers, - Tom | Thomas.W talk 11:38, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
Please see here. -- Kansas Bear ( talk) 00:39, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
John from Idegon ( talk) 05:21, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
tag from
Psychomotorics, which you proposed for deletion. I found English-language sources that use the term. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}}
back to the file. Instead, feel free to list it at
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks!
BlackcurrantTea (
talk) 13:50, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
Giving you a heads-up regarding Padmanabh Singh, I've reverted the same plagiarism twice now. – Skywatcher68 ( talk)
2606:a000:4946:1400:6141:ed84:1737:ef60, 2606:a000:4946:1400:6c1f:b72f:3d8a:7f96, 2606:a000:4946:1400:8075:4267:45da:e4d1, 2606:a000:4946:1400:24bd:8544:e618:9296, and 2606:a000:4946:1400:388b:ef22:8f4b:e10c. Possibly 2605:a601:8057:d400:9d90:1d1d:4eb8:ffe0 and 2605:a601:8057:d400:d9ca:8c7e:5211:9e48 as well. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 16:59, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
You Care To Restore That Page About Me... I Think I'm Notable Now LOL This Article Explains http://www.inc.com/john-boitnott/how-to-use-your-talent-to-attract-the-attention-of-major-brands.html Or You Could Always Just Google Me. Also I Have A Huge Cult Following Now With Over A Million Followers On Twitter http://Twitter.com/DJMany DJ Many56 ( talk) 11:38, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
The editor who uses the pseudonym " JamesBWatson" ( talk) 11:44, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Other Articles About Me http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2016/03/14/dj-many-twitter-personality-emanuel-thomas.html https://dotesports.com/call-of-duty/mlg-signs-dj-many-9267 DJ Many56 ( talk) 12:13, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Dear Sir, I would like to clarify with you that there wasn't any intention of posting any promotional or advertising content in Wikipedia against its policies. Planys Technologies is a high tech Indian startup in the field of robotics and represents the honourable ==Make in India== initiative by the Indian Government. I'm working currently at Planys and a fresher as an editor in wiki and hence correcting as and when an editor is indicating any corrections. The previous comment from an editor was accepted and we did represent Planys in the ==International ROBOSUB competition held at Sandiego== but I wasn't able to get any articles mentioning anything specific and so I didn't know how to link some content to prove its innocence. Sir, I humbly request you to guide me through this as I'm unable to figure out what more should I do to publish this article without any errors and deletions. Please Sir, I would really appreciate if you could take some time out and let me know how to proceed on this further. Thank you so much. AjithaKumar ( talk)AjithaKumar AjithaKumar ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:55, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Feminist has asked for a deletion review of Hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. — Cryptic 16:27, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
consistent with CIR I'm not pinging anyone, but if you have time take a gander here, please. Nonresponsive to feedback, repeat submissions to AFC and AGF/NPOV problems at MFD. They have been given ARBAP notice. NewsAndEventsGuy ( talk) 13:54, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
Glad you blocked that user; we may both have had too much patience, but I suppose too much is better than too little. It's kind of annoying to see that stuff still on the userpage (that you deleted per U5), copied from Meta. That's something I wonder about every time I come across it, often via WP:UAA. Do you know if anything can be done? If the answer is to go to Meta and ask them to delete it, I don't think I will, somehow. Too boring. Bishonen | talk 11:37, 26 May 2017 (UTC).
point well taken. I have edited my sandbox and have developed a proposal for the Trump resistance wiki page. Others have indicated that wiki is under developed and it was suggested by others that I contribute to that wiki. The info I have edited in my sandbox, is that worthy of Wikipedia? Please advise. Let us eat lettuce ( talk) 18:17, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
Hi James, Please disregard my previous post: I disagree with you on some details, but concur completely with the thrust of your conclusions here. Regards, Nick-D ( talk) 23:23, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
Paris1127 ( talk) 06:59, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Hello. Could you please let me know what William Bayne Fisher looked like before you deleted it? I was going to start a stub by using this reference and possibly some book reviews via JSTOR, but perhaps there was already more? Please ping me when you reply. Thank you. Zigzig20s ( talk) 16:47, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
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I've just tagged Ziad k abdelnour as G4 but note you have several similarly named articles on your list at User:JamesBWatson/Links#Check. If the previous behaviour were more recent I'd be raising an SPI. If there's not quacking there's at least a hint of Hoisin sauce. Regards, Cabayi ( talk) 15:37, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
thanks for pointing this out. I thought I added valid content. please see my attempt to engage in consensus decision making. Regardless of the perceived slat of subject matter, the Trump syndrome may be an ongoing phenomenon/development that may be a future wiki. Can we engage in consensus decision making here? Let us eat lettuce ( talk) 19:42, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
Yes. It wasn't a mistake (although of course it may turn out to have been). The original article was much shorter, and the creator probably long since gone, but the other editor I notified, who on the surface appeared to me to be involved in exactly the same business, had amended it most recently. That latest contributor seemed to me to be making rather suspect edits so I thought it would be as well to notify them too. Maybe there are "other" editors I should also have notified. Deb ( talk) 21:11, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
Please can you tell me that how to delete Wikipedia account Mohd Abid 125 ( talk) 17:45, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
Would you be willing to unprotect the above article? I would guess the IP hopper has moved on from Wikipedia by this point in time (which is 6 years after the original protection). -- Izno ( talk) 13:17, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
I agree recreating the page with a different title was not constructive at all but I was just not directed much by anyone towards how to actually mend things. I was not given enough of time to create the article in a better way. I still wish to do it, so could you tell me how to? Should I contact the administrator who deleted it? Refering to UrbanClap Bulle Shah ( talk) 16:03, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
A few IPs in that range, most recently 27.59.72.224, have been involved in changing portions of articles related to Kannada people to the Kannada language. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 17:03, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
Re your edit here: [1] Just read the first letters. The same user has now created the identical attack page at Sebring High School Meters ( talk) 04:26, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi James. JohnMark1 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is an obvious sock of John Mark Salvacion Bartolome ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). He has created the spam article JM Bartolome.- Mr X 19:28, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
An IP, 198.109.219.254, is adding the exact same content at Jackson High School (Michigan). The IP belongs to the public library in Jackson, so whatever you think is best. Thanks. John from Idegon ( talk) 18:58, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
FYI: WP:ANI# It's nice to know the Federal Aviation Administration is a school PCHS-NJROTC (Messages)Have a blessed day. 22:05, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
Only 2600:1017:b41c:5729:f0a3:8523:fc45:908b & 2600:1017:b41d:1341:412e:7db2:83f:e6b6 so far but wanted to let you know. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 16:28, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
Just a FYI Ancientluv143 may have a sock Kt62345 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) - FlightTime ( open channel) 15:33, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
86.30.162.121. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 19:25, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
About this: We've had problems with people invoking WP:EL when they should be thinking about WP:RS for years. Apparently, it really is counter-intuitive, and we were pointing that out to get their attention (A: "This doesn't apply to refs!" B: "So about this ref..." A: "No! Really! This actually completely totally intentionally cross-my-heart-and-hope-to-die doesn't apply to refs!!!!" B: "Oh. Um, are you sure about that?").
But perhaps we are finally past that point. :-) WhatamIdoing ( talk) 18:26, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
Hello there James. I see you deleted the James Fell (author) page on June 14, 2017. /info/en/?search=James_Fell_(author) I was wondering if this might have been a mistake? DGG submitted it for deletion June 3, 2016 and the page was repaired soon afterward. The "Unambiguous advertising or promotion" cleaned up. The reason you give for your deletion in 2017 was for the same reason, but I can find no record of any comments or discussion. Possibly the dates looked like it has been 11 days between DGG's deletion and not a year and 11 days? Hoping to hear from you soon. Thanks! Sgerbic ( talk) 21:19, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
NBC News and ABC News articles in particular. I've added NBC News to requests for page protection. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 23:45, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
I'm sorry not for carefully following the Wikipedia guideline. I'm not an employee of this company, but a self-employed contractor. Although my intention was to summarize the information, my proposal is to delete these pages especially as the notability is thought to be trivial. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ktnk ( talk • contribs) 15:01, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
On Khal Drogo, both User:Arron-A and User:Eastwesteros are socks of User:User-4488 and User: MaxPrem respectively. Should I just revert to last clean version? 2600:387:6:805:0:0:0:B3 ( talk) 03:39, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
Hi JamesBWatson, I am sorry this was considered to be a promotional page. That was not the intent. KindLink has been featured in the news today (BBC Click programme: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08qlwlk/click-great-balls-of-fire). Since then, we have started receiving hundreds of requests for explanations and further information on the product - hence the decision to create a wiki page, as KindLink seems to be important to a considerable amount of people. All other giving platforms (Justgiving, globalgiving, localgiving, charity checkout etc) seems to have a page on wikipedia with similar contents and they have not been deleted. I am very happy to edit the page according to your/other admins' suggestions if you think it is too much promotional. -- AdrianoMancinelli ( talk) 11:40, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for advice on the Nathan Asher page. Truth is I just wanted to create a page I knew something about. It was not in any way promotional, as the band has been disbanded for at least eight years. I thought the sourcing was solid and written in the form of other bands on wikipedia. I don't know any one from the former band. I just used to listen to them years ago. I thought they deserved an entry, given their reach on the southeastern coast of America about a decade ago.
With that said, I hope you will look again at the page and see that it was not promotional and that it met the guidelines for a band.
Gregwrites ( talk) 20:54, 29 May 2017 (UTC)Gregwrites
Formerly dasEsArts
My mistake, I have also checked, it just says promotion. Not self. Apologies.
Thanks for the help — Preceding unsigned comment added by GriffinKemp97 ( talk • contribs) 16:59, 5 June 2017
I have read the comment you left. About how I am not capable of distinguishing promotion and neutral writing. It is therefore that I have specifically used a neutral, stable and reliable source for that part. How else am I supposed to explain what Playtech BGT Sports does without quoiting their website or other reliable sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thombinder ( talk • contribs) 15:10, 8 June 2017
Thank you for your comment. I'm working for the Korea Daily and there is no Wikipedia information about the company. I'm fixing the mistakes so let me know if you have more advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joongangdailynews ( talk • contribs) 22:02, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
2602:304:CE7C:140:0:0:0:0/64 ( block range · block log ( global) · WHOIS (partial))
Hi JamesBWatson,
Could you give this IP range another block? They've returned on 2602:304:CE7C:140:E4AF:9F33:93E0:4F5A ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) and although that IP is currently blocked, they will likely return shortly on another IP within the ::/64 range. Thanks. 193.106.43.180 ( talk) 22:07, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi James,
We did this on the advice of our professor for a final project. And yes, it is a team project with other members, it has been a steep learning curve for us in regards to adding substantial contributions and learning how to use the sandbox. Yes I am currently going through and adding our edits piece by piece so not to override other editors work, then we will continue to work on the opinions language. Any other advice would be greatly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Team4 2017 ( talk • contribs) 22:03, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
I am the only one editing using this account. We are doing the collaborations on another platform. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Team4 2017 ( talk • contribs) 01:50, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi JamesBWatson,
Would you mind blocking this IP range again? They've re-surfaced as 2601:805:4201:1737:28DD:F92:63E9:4899 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) (and although that individual IP is already blocked, blocking the /64 range for good measure won't hurt...) Thanks. 2A07:5740:600:0:0:0:A940:A7C4 ( talk) 04:50, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for your feedback and clear explanations to the edits you have made. In the future I will ensure I will take care of all the suggestions you have made for any new edits.
Priya2017 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Priya2017 ( talk • contribs) 04:58, 28 June 2017
Disruptive edits have been coming from the 2606:a000:45c7:9200 range since at least January of last year. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 02:17, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
2600:1017:b413:5531:bd01:d64a:eff:d619 @ Macy's talk page. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 19:44, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
2600:387:b:3::a2 was blocked, vandal switched to 2600:387:b:9::83. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 20:01, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
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?fuzzy=1
to the URL, as with
Special:Undelete?fuzzy=1. Currently the search only finds pages that exactly match the search term.I saw that you protected it to prevent malicious page moves, but you also protected it so only extended confirmed users could it in addition to moving it. Did you accidentally place edit protection on the page? (The log summary said "Repeatedly moved to a user talk page of a nonexistent user.") — MRD 20 14 00:15, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Do you remember anything about the deletion of Return of Kings (blog)? I can't find a discussion, maybe it was prodded? How do you find out this sort of thing? I ask because the article was recently re-created as Return of Kings. You removed the link to it at Roosh V so I thought you might remember, or know how to figure it out. Kendall-K1 ( talk) 23:47, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
Wallnot ( talk) 14:13, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Wallnot ( talk) 16:42, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi, James, I seem to have run foul of an editor on the From Russia with Love talk page. Rather than discussion of issues regarding the plot subsection, I'm getting ad hominem belligerency. Could you advise me how to get the dialogue transferred to a wider discussion forum than just the talk page? Thanks, Mzilikazi1939 ( talk) 13:33, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice. Personally I'd be happy to abide by a third opinion. It looks like we've got it sorted, though. Mzilikazi1939 ( talk) 12:24, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
Don't know what's going on with 2605:e000:7d or 2602:306:b8e8:d960 but they sure have a bee in their bonnet regarding Pep flags. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 02:45, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
Only 2601:989:8200:95e0:dd3e:d8e9:4f37:8eb1 (blocked) & 2601:989:8200:95e0:a131:6ce:3778:d466 (not yet blocked) so far. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 22:32, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi JamesBWatson. I noticed that a user named Trevorhacker1803 registered just the other day and has set about editing, whereas I noticed you blocked Trevorhacker ( talk · contribs) in May. Quite clearly a sockpuppet from the name alone. Ss 112 05:54, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
I noticed 51.235.28.240 & 78.95.229.131 recently started editing the same few articles in Arabic. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 01:35, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
I've just nominated Shayan Khan at AFD. While going through the AfD-notice routine, I discovered that you had blocked the article creator, User:MinkyThePet, in April 2016. My overheated imagination suggests that it might be worth having a look behind the scenes at those named and IP editors who have been heavily tweaking that article since July 2016... Yrs, Narky Blert ( talk) 19:24, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
Created the page with faithful refference Monuwara ( talk) 05:10, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Prem Khan (Actor to Prem Khan , unnecessary disambiguation Monuwara ( talk) 05:11, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Prem Khan (Actor Monuwara ( talk) 05:12, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
I hope you will block me for six months. I found your name in Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to consider placing self-requested blocks. -- Marvellous Spider-Man 06:24, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
Seems to me that administrators semi-protecting Johnny Ortiz for a week at a time hardly accomplishes anything. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 20:32, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
Hey JamesBWatson, can you help deal with these accounts JuiianPema, Juiianpe1, and JuiianPe. I Suspect they are sockpuppets and even after warning one of them, they still continue to do disruptive editing. I already posted them on the Administrators' noticeboard and hope could deal them as well. Nuobgu ( talk) 20:41, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi,James,
I am Blades from the ACC team.Can you shed some light on the block of User:172.97.236.171.I am comfortable with the email-route too!Cheers! Winged Blades Godric 13:52, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi there "James". First of all, I'm sorry that you feel I have not answered Maxim's question sufficiently and moreover, I apologize for not having answered your follow-up by now. I hope you don't mind me coming here for a quick inquiry. I've been mulling over that question for almost a day now but still am not completely sure what you expected. Do you mean cases like an AfD where people disagree whether a certain source is reliable and/or independent or whether the coverage is "significant" ( WP:GNG)? Regards So Why 14:38, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
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Hi, JamesB. 24.117.145.226 has yet to contribute anything other than word salad and hasn't been dissuaded by being blocked for a week. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 20:36, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi James - You just deleted the article for the Propane Education and Research Council for: Editor's summary: G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion ( TW)
I was working with User:Doc James to remove the sources that were a COI, and only reference the law enacted by Congress that mandated the creation of the council, which is located on congress.gov.
I posted the changes on the article's talk page as requested by Doc James for discussion. Were those suggested changes rejected? Ryandutcher ( talk) 20:53, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi @ JamesBWatson:, i am interested in writing an article about Chioma Obiadi, I wanted to know why this page was deleted. MiMi139 ( talk) 13:32, 5 August 2017 (UTC) Copied from Chioma obiadi. Narutolovehinata5 t c csd new 13:33, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
This ip address is blocked 2A03:2880:0:0:0:0:0:0/34 when I edit from it. This ip address is not a proxy. Please note that I am using this ip address from Free Basics website. Zafar24 Talk 22:13, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
Hello James B Watson -- I write to ask how this COI thing works, under the covers. Obnoxious posters I understand. Anyone who looks at their work can see. COI and sockpuppets require secret CU investigations. It reminds me of the FISA court. We citizens (the editors) need to have absolute confidence in the honesty of that court. We are trusting them to do the right thing for the right reasons. What kinds of checks are there on the deletion of articles? I understand the need to discipline the bad guys, but when a page is deleted, the work of every unwitting volunteer is deleted too. I point you to talk:INTTRA Inc.. The article is gone. I'm sure there are readers who would like to know how shipping documents find their way around the world.
I don't have any particular dog in the fight. Yes the company is just down the road from me. I worked for their competitor more than twenty years ago. And yes, there is some investigation going on about me, but I have heard nothing more since the initial allegation was made. Are the articles I created likely to be deleted too? Rhadow ( talk) 17:06, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Hello Kudpung กุดผึ้ง, Jasper Deng, and JamesBWatson -- Thank you all for reading my posts and taking the time to respond. It is time-consuming, I know, to respond to messages of more than 140 characters. The matter we are dealing with here is complicated. If WP is worth improving, then it is worth our time to lay out the issue in its entirety and discuss it. If we can together make a suggestion or two that improves the process then we will have done our parts. An ecosystem as large as WP doesn't stand revolution; it must improve by evolution. When the ship is large, so must be the rudder. It takes some loud shouts to be heard. I would like to address the totality of this situation as I see it. First, it requires a look at the individual parts, then a look at how they work together as a system. What looks like a good isolated policy may have unintended negative consequences when it is part of a complex system.
As to CU investigations and contact with the subject of an article suspected as being the work of a paid editor, it is only practical that these investigations be carried out by a sole, trusted member of the team. Because the task is so well defined, I'm not worried about the accuracy of the outcome. The investigator either discovers that there is IP address overlap, or not. The subject either admits he or she paid for editing or not. If I suspected the investigator would alter the findings before reporting to COIN or sockpuppet conversation, I wouldn't be here. You'll get no argument from me on these processes.
What triggers an investigation is problematic. You sent me to WP:COIN. There I found TxFactChecker, with whom I had disagreements about POV on a politician's page. I shed no tear when TxFactChecker left. The editing was annoying. A look at the history of Dan Huberty will show I wasn't the only one who felt this way. There was another feisty editor there, PoliticalPoster007, fighting on the same topics. The straightforward response would have been to take them both out the woodshed and chastise them for NPOV and rapid-revert conduct. Instead, TxFactChecker is cited on the COIN discussion. Having similar views to another is not sufficient evidence of collusion. COIN is, however, a means to a relatively prompt set of sanctions, up and including expulsion from the community. I get it; if you have an objective, you use the most expedient tool to accomplish the goal.
I'm not worried about automated sweeps of IP addresses either. Two editors sharing an IP address could be husband and wife. Fifteen could be students at a university. When shared addresses are working on the same politicians, garage bands, or commercial entities, then my eyebrows lift. At least, though, it's a robot looking at the population, not a specific set of people.
An investigation needs to start somewhere. Yes, it could be on the basis of a not-very-well-camouflaged userid or content copied from a subject's website. It becomes problematic when the charge originates from or is supported an editor's use of em-dash or the phrase, "my two cents." In that case the accuser needs only post the accusation and never return to support the position. It is a cost-free way to get into a fight. In politics, it's called, "ring and run." When there is no cost associated with making an accusation, especially an unfounded one, it's going to happen with some regularity. When no offense is discovered, it has wasted a lot of people's time. When the investigation proceeds to its conclusion and an innocent editor pays, that is ultimately bad for the community. How can that happen?
The DUCK theory troubles me. Where there is smoke there is fire. This is not simply a superstition held by an uneducated few. It is institutionalized. Indeed, an admin told me this, "However, with or without CU evidence, passing a duck test is often sufficient for a block." This was in support of statement that protesting one's innocence is evidence of guilt. Yes, it is a dunking stool test. If this theory were applied in the real world, a twenty-five year-old black man with a prior arrest would have not a chance of acquittal. Parenthetically, I observe that failing the duck test would be a more accurate description.
So here we are, a week after the first mention of me on the sockpuppet investigation page. We've wasted time, you (all) and me. I've been offered the platitude that all Wikipedians are invited to volunteer for any role. That my be the published policy, but individual discussions have a different flavor. To wit: "[T]here is a general consensus that users with less than 500 substantial manspace edits may not have had sufficient contact with our policies and guidelines to be implementing policies and guidelines regarding deletion." First of all, to a new editor, it's jargon. Second, it is a not-so-subtle put-down, hiding behind general consensus citation needed. It would be more straightforward to say, "I disagree with your recommendation to [keep / delete] this article. I predict that with five hundred or so edits, you'll likely agree with the consensus on this one." It's not worthwhile discussing this case. The original article and its talk page are gone. All that remains is a deletion discussion with this allegation: "Also, I observe that World's Lamest Critic has an interesting contribution history. Their very first edits included Jimbo's talk page, a sockpuppet investigation, and an AfD. These are not the sorts of edits one would expect from a new user. Looks like a duck to me." The problem is that it was made before a CU investigation was concluded. It therefore assumes facts not in evidence.
If there is one concrete change I suggest, it is the retention or deletion of articles and their associated talk pages in parallel with the discussions. This would require some thought. I understand it has to do with copyright law. Nevertheless, it would prevent the kinds of quicksand that gave rise to this particular thread. I stumbled onto this INTTRA article and worked on it. It interests me. The company is near me, and I used to work in that industry. What I didn't know at the time is that the article had already been created and deleted before, perhaps multiple times. Simply by touching it, I was ensaring myself in a long standing controversy. It was a tar baby. Now there will never again be an article about INTTRA, as far as I understand. If I had known that, I wouldn't have touched it in the first place. I suppose that a complete history cannot follow a now-empty namespace, but a warning would be nice. As my co-defendants have discovered, the deletion of talk pages takes the wind out of their own self-defense. All that remains is the accusation on a discussion page.
Please accept these observations for what they are, an attempt to build a healthier WP ecosystem. Rhadow ( talk) 14:56, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi again. 108.26.154.59, 108.56.149.132, and 108.49.239.226 make similar edits regarding Pixar movies, characters in the Cars franchise in particular. The latter two only seem to be active while the first is blocked. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 20:58, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
You blocked him for creating unsatisfactory stubs on educational institutions. OlloKHAN is now editing the same articles and creating more. Quack quack. SPI has been filed. Robert McClenon ( talk) 17:12, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
[9] On a serious note, on a duck call like that one should I have slapped a G5 on it without waiting for the SPI to close? Meters ( talk) 20:52, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi JamesBWatson. I've noticed a few more disruptive Littlemixfan!, a possible Hercules123! new account. It looks like a WP:DUCK. Destiny Leo ( talk) 15:57, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi, JamesB. 101.212.188.195 received a Level 4im and switched to 101.212.189.43. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 14:30, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
Normally, I would never waste an admin's time with a simple content dispute, but this guy needs an attitude adjustment, at very least. A month ago, on the Ted Bundy article, an editor changed "died in the electric chair" to "executed in the electric chair", which I thought was redundant and unnecessary. (Does anyone die of natural causes in an electric chair?) So I reverted, per WP:BRD, and invited him to discuss it. Apparently he didn't think it worth discussing, because he never responded; but another user reverted my revert with the message, "There, fuck your edit war, this is good enough". (One revert is an edit war?) I referred the matter to the talk page, where I received a series of insults, but no good argument for the change. I allowed 3 weeks for him to gain consensus for the change, with no responses at all, then changed it back. Of course, he immediately reverted me, citing a "3-week stable version" -- which is laughable. Ordinarily I would just walk away from a minor dispute, but last time I conceded a point to this guy, all I got was a bunch of gloating, and now this -- so I feel obliged to seek administrative assistance; sorry to trouble you. I'm already at 1.5RR on the article, so I can't even revert his silly revert without him accusing me of edit warring again. (A quick scan of his talk page shows that he's had other edit warring issues.) I don't care about the single-word change at issue -- I care that this guy is the kind of person who regards editing as a competition, and is driving away good content creators. (I may be leaving myself, after 8 years -- it just isn't worth the aggravation.) If you can help in any way, such as semi-protecting the article with the original wording until he can gain some consensus for his change, or explaining the facts of WP to him, I would greatly appreciate it. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/ talk to me! 13:00, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
On IBM, IP user added email addresses here (both in the edited text itself and in the edit summary). I've reverted the edit itself, but the personal information is still in the history (both places). Can you please revdel? (I pulled your id from Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to handle RevisionDelete requests). TJRC ( talk) 18:40, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
ʍaɦʋɛօtʍ ( talk) 00:36, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi, JamesB. A particularly confrontational block evading IP hopper is over there; I don't think a 31 hour block is going to do much. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 22:21, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
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Hi James, I saw you blocked Trevorhacker several months ago for evading their block and adding unsourced content. I'm quite sure they have re-registered as Pinkfan03, considering Pinkfan03 has edited both Pink and Jennifer Lopez topics (adding unsourced information to their articles yet again— here, for example), as well as even going to Trevorhacker's talk page saying they think they should be unblocked (quite obviously Trevor) and then blanking Trevorhacker's talk page of a block notice. Ss 112 03:37, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
Disclaimer: I am new to Wikipedia and don't know how this place works. This request concerns a page on Hinduism. If you believe that this issue does not come under your domain, then please don't ignore this; rather suggest the name of another admin who CAN handle this issue.
I wish to inform you that there has been an "edit war" between me and the user Ms Sarah Welch ( /info/en/?search=User:Ms_Sarah_Welch) regarding the article Isha Upanishad. I put "edit war in quotes because it got resolved pretty quickly, and was in no way an actual conflict(look here- /info/en/?search=Talk:Isha_Upanishad ,if you don't believe me). I only started nine days ago and she has been an established user for a long time. The reason for the "war" was that I had quoted from a non-RS based source, which was the version of the Isopanisad published by the Bhaktivedanta Book Trust, which is also the publisher of THE MOST widely read edition of the Bhagavad Gita ( /info/en/?search=Bhaktivedanta_Book_Trust), in the whole world. Therefore, in no way do I consider this version to be a poorly known version. The other editors who have come before me have quoted the book, and the book is included in the list of references in the article itself! Still, I agree that mantras can be interpreted in many ways, but at the very least, I should be able to post the original mantras, IN SANSKRIT, without translation. The original mantras of course, cannot differ. Only the translation differs. Therefore, I request that you have a word with her about this issue. While in no way do I question the fact that she is an established editor, I firmly disagree with her over this issue. The "edit war" took place 9 days ago, and during this time, I have put much thought into this. I also believe that the opinion of other editors should also be taken, and that Ms Sarah Welch should not have a Monopoly over the page. I expect a courteous response, admin. Thanks, Lie Cleaner HK.
PS : If you think that you are not the person I should be asking, then please suggest another admin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lie Cleaner HK ( talk • contribs) 12:49, 23 August 2017
I just went through the Wikipedia:Article_wizard and the article passed all the criteria for a Wikipedia article that I can tell. I contested the speedy deletion tag, and nobody ever responded to me on the talk page. Except User_talk:Robert_McClenon falsely accused me of "remov[ing] speedy deletion notices from pages [I] have created" Zaurus ( talk) 14:04, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
Sorry about linking CIA to Donald Trump, I thought it was odd what it said in the source article but I wasn't sure of what it was. It was an accident. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NoahRaso ( talk • contribs) 14:04, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your comments on Rodrigo Tavares. I further edited the text to ensure there is no connection with the Granito Partners page. I compared sentence by sentence. Using the copyright match software, the result was "Total match candidates found: 0 (before eliminating redundant matches)". I hope you will accept this new version. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Highpeak100 ( talk • contribs) 10:56, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
Hello JamesBWatson how are doing? I'm writing you concerning Jasmine dawda page, you've been on the page a while back and said there're certainly claims of significance and some other editors thinks so too, the speedy deletion tag was removed by an editor and a debate was started for the page but since then no top editor has contributed as to what the future of the page will be even though there have been 10 edits to improve the page by 4 different editors. References have been added and other major improvement have been done to the page. I will appreciate it if you can use your experience as a top editor in this community to take the decision as to what should be done to the page. I spent days piecing this page and the references together, I don't want to see it go to the bin like that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mode9 ( talk • contribs) 10:58, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi there,
Let me explain my situation to you so that we can help each other. I'm a former student of P. Porto and did a paper on Porto Design Factory (PDF) for the end of my degree. The main problem that I had with this was that it's difficult to find reliable information about PDF and the Design Factory Global Network (DFGN) on the internet without it being on their website. So I, personally, wanted to help other students with the same problem to have access to that information. I talked directly to Porto Design Factory asking them permission to use the text of their website in a Wikipedia article and they gave me permission to use it, knowing that the information that it's on Wikipedia can be edited and used by anyone without giving credit to the author. The situation is simple, I'm a former student that wants to help other students. I have no connection to PDF and they did not ask me to create the article to promote themselves. I just meet a lot of international students that didn't have any access to the information because the website is not very good for master degree papers for instance.
I would very much appreciate your opinion in what is the best solution to this situation. Thank you, DotPone — Preceding unsigned comment added by DotPone ( talk • contribs) 11:21, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
Hey James can you please take a look at: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special:Log/delete&page=HPE_OneView. You moved it for me a couple days ago, but DGG deleted it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Llrosa ( talk • contribs) 20:15, 21 July 2017
Just found another account he was using called Gggtt, can you block it or do you need a checkuser? 82.132.247.196 ( talk) 02:12, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
Can you please add a semi protection with longer period against hoax and vandalism on the following articles: List of radio stations in Central Luzon, List of radio stations in the Cordillera Administrative Region, List of radio stations in the Bicol Region, List of radio stations in Southern Tagalog, List of ABS-CBN Corporation channels and stations, List of People's Television Network stations and channels, List of GMA Network stations, List of Radio Philippines Network affiliate stations, List of GMA News TV stations, List of GMA Network radio stations, and My Only Radio.
Nikbert16 ( talk) 7:00, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
Hey James, just wanted to thank you for your support on my talk page ( /info/en/?search=User_talk:80.245.197.109).
You asked why I don't create an account...I actually do have an account ( /info/en/?search=User:Steevm), I've just forgotten the credentials and didn't particularly care, as I no longer edit Wiki as much as I used to (as you can probably tell given this reply is over a year since you messaged me). Generally I only edit when I'm reading an article and notice a typo/grammatical errors etc. - then I'll fix them. I appreciate that this makes communication difficult. Maybe I should just figure out what my credentials are again :) 80.245.197.109 ( talk) 13:41, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi,
I wanted to let you know that the article Pressterror, nominated for deletion, shouldn't be deleted. This topic is featured in an episode of Big Night Out, broadcasted by Viceland. In the episode there is plenty of objective information given about this musical project. I also added links of viceland's episode in the reference section of the Pressterror wiki page.
Let me know what you think about that.
Greetings — Preceding unsigned comment added by HeerJ ( talk • contribs) 10:34, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
I think Category:Lorde, which was deleted in 2013, can be created now. Precedent has typically deleted those eponymous categories with only albums and songs subcategory and maybe a discography page, but this is additional content now, including a "songs written by" category and and a list of awards page. If there is objection, perhaps it could be renominated. Thanks. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 01:14, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
Just saw your edit. Many sources talk about the erased content, what's Wikipedia usage for this ? Can i still use the links talking about this to source the article ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MangoZona ( talk • contribs) 20:05, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
You deleted /info/en/?search=UK_Onshore_Oil_and_Gas - I don't think this was necessary. A re-wording would have sufficed. Please restore this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UKOOG7 ( talk • contribs) 16:00, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi, you deleted this page stating "Pure vandalism and blatant hoaxes" and "Pages that disparage, threaten, intimidate, or harass their subject or some other entity, and serve no other purpose". I have no idea what article you were reading but nothing I put in the page I created, did any of those things. I listed our how the group, followed by over 100,000 people came to fruition and some reasons behind it. I did however, accidentally edit another page I had open, thinking it was the one I created?? Either way, my editing of the page I created were all valid and as it was a draft I assumed I could edit it until i got it correct. Could I please get a bit more information on it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TomJenx ( talk • contribs) 12:43, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
Highya,
Just wanted to find out why you have not posted a closing comment on the closing of the AfD?
regards -- Mickey ☠ Dangerez 16:50, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
I'm doing a page about a township in Mexico https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolfo_lopez_mateos_(localidad), but it gets keep being deleted as irrelevant by a dude from Spain, https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario:Tarawa1943 you can find the basic information about it here,
https://en.mexico.pueblosamerica.com/i/adolfo-lopez-mateos-zacatal/
http://www.telepaisa.com/pueblos.php?action=poblacion_ver&poblacion_id=257797
also I'm not creating pages in serbian, just adding information and will translate later https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolfo_L%C3%B3pez_Mateos,_Jes%C3%BAs_Carranza
https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Op%C5%A1tina_Jes%C3%BAs_Carranza,_Veracruz
maybe he should first move to Mexico before starting deleting towns there. I can post that information anywhere I want, because I created that page, you can find it here https://everipedia.org/wiki/adolfo-lopez-mateos-locality/
and on many places of the internet, you people do not own wikipedia, stop taking everything so serious and deleting other people's work — Preceding unsigned comment added by Usernet123u ( talk • contribs) 08:32, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
== please semi unprotect Dick Strawbridge talk page, need to add army abuse info from BBC news today — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.171.202.31 ( talk) 17:07, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
You moved this to a not very well done disam page without leaving redirects. Nearly 100 pages redirected there, all but one or two referring to the Titian. You then failed to do the post move clean-up. Thanks. Johnbod ( talk) 13:25, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
Given the last comment on the talk page (which ought to be blocked and revdeled) removing page protection is very probably not a good move. I'll let you know if the editor involved phones me again (we really do not need a replay of the malarkey on this page all over again). Andy Dingley ( talk) 19:56, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for your kind advice can you tell me how can I edit a existing article because my article got deleted even before completing it and now I find it difficult to retrieve it back and edit. " Bernadiene"( talk)
Hi, I have few questions! There are tons of other hotels they have their own wiki pages done but why can't this hotel have its wiki page done! Also I just did the content again I had more details added to justify why it needs to be up on Wikipedia. If other similar properties can have pages done why not this hotel, I mean its not fair to have a page deleted in less than 10 minutes once it's created. Can you kindly advise me how to have this page up and I will be putting few other pages up too on few other locations in Sri Lanka. My first article gets continuously rejected and but just because it was previously done by few other users doesn't mean that every article done on this page is not factual. Bernadiene" ( talk)
Thank you for welcoming me! I would love to see if I could help people with template requests. Meanwhile, I guess I will be generally improving Wikipedia.-- TruDev ( talk) 12:43, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
Hey James, long time no see. Just FYI, I've re-blocked that IP with an oversight block and suppressed all their edits. Their edits are libellous and so easily qualify for suppression. If or when they resurface, could you email the oversight team (oversight-en-wp at wikipedia.org or Special:EmailUser/Oversight)? I can't guarantee it'll be me who picks it up because I'm not so active these days and the time I do have I'm trying to devote to article-writing, but someone will deal with it. Thanks, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:57, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
Can you revoke TPA privileges for Megerflit ( talk · contribs)? Looks like he's now just resorting to just threats on his talk page after the appeal got declined. Thanks. theinstantmatrix ( talk) 18:36, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi James, probably you suggested a removal of my article without even reading it, not fair! There's a whole PDF laid out to materialise the facts you ignored. Thanks, LadyWilco ( talk) 22:22, 24 September 2017 (UTC)LW
Hey James, I have a blog opportunity I wanted to discuss with you. Could you email me when you get a change? Email is on my user page.
CMCreator900 ( talk) 00:18, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
Hey James,
I already emailed a few people and so Wiki throttled my usage temporarily. If you wouldn't mind emailing me though that would be great. Thank you.
CMCreator900 ( talk) 02:35, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
Hello, JamesBWatson, Thank you for your comments and suggestions. The powers that be here where I work are rather antsy to get this first basic article created and approved by the powers that be at Wikipedia. Reason for the antsyness, not known. So, I am in a position where I have to dive right in, absorb as much as possible and start creating this first article. I much appreciate your suggestion of smaller steps at first, however, not possible for me at this moment. I'm endeavoring to study as much as I can as I go along and to get things right to the greatest degree possible. I am backing the article up as I go along in PDF format. I read one Editor's Help request regarding their personal Sandbox having been wiped and that Editor had no backup. Suggestions were offered to that Editor as to how that Sandbox may be recovered - hence, the reason for my PDF backups of my Sandbox. Thank you for your input and suggestions. Please note that I am a paid editor and that the necessary declarations have been made on my User page and User/Talk page. Best regards, Verbwright981 ( talk) 20:09, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi
You deleted the page Gaurav Kotli under a A7 CSD tag. The article had sources in Hindu etc and I would like to see if I can restore it (by translating the sources, which I informed are reliable), I am not a sysop so can't see the page anymore, please could you paste a copy in my userspace. User:Aguyintobook/Articles/Gaurav Kotli. as this would save the time and hassle of a deletion review and whatnot. --- Α Guy Into Books™ § ( Message) - 20:44, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Sorry about Joeboy. I guess I sort of showed my Wikipedia:WikiBadger tendencies. Again sorry. I will go inactive a couple of days to punish myself. Bobherry Talk Edits 14:31, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
Heads up, User:Impedehim is back writing incoherent essays, you may want to block and nuke. – Train2104 ( t • c) 01:06, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Please forgive my ignorance; I'm new to Wikipedia.
It was my understanding that in my Wikipedia "sandbox," the content I create there isn't public (at least, that's what the sandbox description says). If that's the case, why did you delete the article I was experimenting with? I was just trying to learn some formatting by trial-and-error; I had no intention of actually having that content on Wikipedia at this time. Thanks for your time.
Thanks for your reply and restoring the content. I will definitely make sure I do my research before posting or editing publicly. Thanks again. Rieggs ( talk) 16:47, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi,
there is a new NJ State Law that has provisions that open many works to the public domain. I have added a citation to this page /info/en/?search=Copyright_status_of_work_by_U.S._subnational_governments#New_Jersey . You were the user who deleted the template based on old laws in ~2014.
The new law says: " Open data and datasets made available by an agency on the open data website, unless subject to a disclosed legal restriction, shall be treated as license-free, subject to reuse, and not subject to copyright restrictions. " ( https://njlaw.rutgers.edu/collections/njstats/showsect.php?title=52&chapter=18A§ion=234.5&actn=getsect ) which sounds as public domain as it can be :)
Any chance I can remake the template? 13:55, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2017).
Hi, JamesB. I'm recommending a rangeblock for 167.88.224.XXX. – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 17:28, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
Tamil language was oldest surviving classical language Declared by UNESCO.
Oldest Tamil inscription dated 540 BCE. Tholkappiyam dated 540 BCE. But in you blog that was mentioned as 2 nd century BCE.
Tamil also one of Ancient classical languages.
Chinese, Hebrew, Sanskrit, latin, Greek and Tamil was Ancient classical languages of the world.
Proto Dravidian language also Tamil. You can read about that. I have written that in my Quora page. Parun3247 ( talk) 13:54, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
Much obliged; that had completely slipped my mind. Yunshui 雲 水 16:02, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
You got mail. Not all that important, and relatively short, at two paragraphs and 116 words, but it's mail nonetheless. :)
Drmies (
talk) 16:07, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
The answer's in my username. It's a placeholder for now, but when I have time, I'll be replacing most of the Rick Sanchez information. Sanchez Rick ( talk) 17:15, 5 October 2017 (UTC)