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Hi: Please avoid edit summaries that are critical of a person (such as "…after Emico's biased edit"). They violate our policy on civility and I would ask you to consider how you would feel if someone said that they did something "after Ironbrew's biased edit". You know that all articles related to INC are the subject of high emotion and we need to make conscious efforts to keep our discussions calm if we are to write the best possible articles. Please help with this. — Theo (Talk) 18:41, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
How does it help us to point out that Emico's already deleted edit "was definitely unfair and POV against those who disagree with the INC". It is one thing to point out why you wish to make a change to an article, but your post feels like an attack: "Let's hear what wrongheaded Emico has to say". I think that it is very important for us to be gentle with each other as we collaborate on this controversial topic. You were generous toward me when I made a mistake. Please extend that generosity to other editors. — Theo (Talk) 00:25, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
I sympathise with your anger. I am trying to address inappropriate behaviours as they arise. It is important that we do do not compound the wrongs of others by misbehaving in turn. Keep doing the good things that you are doing. — Theo (Talk) 09:37, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
Sorry for overwriting you last edit on the INC article. I've been busy trying to correct the grammar errors of these latests anon edits. At this point, I'll WP:AGF and assume they don't come from Emico, I've decided to keep some of the facts he brought, but keep focus on the section by removing redundancy and quotes that would make the article sound self-contradictory. -- LBMixPro (Speak on it!) 08:07, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Please refrain from editing other users userpages w/o good reason. Although you posted a sock puppet notice, they did they same to you. This makes it seem like neither is true. If you wish to leave a comment for someone, please do so on their talk page. Thank you. ∞ Who ?¿? 20:34, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
That's understandable, and I have been trying to go through the histories and talk with admins involved. It was better at the time to just remove both banners and notitfy both users. If you are having problems with another user, its better to ask for help from an admin, and Don't feed the trolls, it will save you some heartache, even if only a little. thanks for responding, and I will try to find out whats going on with the other user. ∞ Who ?¿? 22:13, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
I accept. Please accept mine as well. Emico 17:25, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks so much for the comments and for doing what you did at the Bereans forum. But I can't help but be concerned about the direction the articles are about to turn. I recently read the anon's post about burying the hatchet, and the whole argument reminded me of the War on Terrorism.
Although everybody belives the radical muslims who bomb communities think of them as criminals, they fail to realize the terrorists did it to serve God. Although we're dealing with a different religion and a different location, it seems too similar. Someone has no knowledge of the laws and regulations of Jimmy Wales' website, makes edits which are blatanly against it. It seems that he doesn't care about the laws, he feels God has sent him specifically to save the Church from distortion, and would destroy everything which gets in his way. The people of the site believe he's out to ruin the integrity of it, in which he is, the attacks he maded only slowed progress with the site, as well as waste bandwidth and disk space. I'm here for Wikipedia. When I went to Wikipedia, I didn't do it because INC was there. I was registered at Wikipedia about 4 months before finding out about INC's article. INC is just another article, equally important. The only thing different is this article is prone to POV pushers, and clueless newbies. I care enough for this religion to contribute. I'm not editing the article for the INC, but at the same time, I am.
Although the article is about the INC, it's not made for it. I embrace the goal of this Encyclopedia, and the community behind it. But I'm not going to fight a holy war to defend this Wiki. Of course I'm not an expert, only minsters and high members are. But I know enough to make a useful contribution. If I didn't, I wouldn't have edited the article in the first place. Starbucks doesn't know me, he doesn't know my experiences with INC, but he commented as if he did. This is an enyclopedia which is designed for everybody to edit, completely against the view of Starbucks. But I'm not going to take the same road I took with Emico. I'm calling different channels, which are capable of explaining the intent of Wikipedia to people. If he wants to write a definite guide to INC, he can make a site of his own. But Wikipedia is not a place to put it. Starbucks doesn't own the article. INC doesn't own the article. I don't own the article. You don't own the article.
I can't stand the crap Starbucks throws at me, but after completely reading all the stuff he said today, (since the tension has gone down a bit) I'm going to cool off by leaving the article to only INC members, until the next Wikipedian comes and challenges his views. Hopefully it won't be a sysop. I don't know when I'll be back. But I have other articles, which are equally important as this one. All articles are equally important, and it pisses me off when someone tells me one article is less "serious" than another. They're a lot of wikipedians who make trivial edits to articles they believe have bad grammar. The problem will be when people like Starbucks attack them, because they don't see it as a grammar fix, but a twist to their doctorine.
Hopefully while I'm gone, you can help improve the article, at least to get that WP:V notice off the page. Until Ealva or Glenn comes back to the wiki and balance the integrity of the Wiki and the Iglesia. I can't deal with this problem alone, and I'm hoping people can get through to him. -- LBMixPro <Speak|on|it!> 23:57, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
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Iron, are you an sysop? I 'm thinking of blocking the disruptive anonymous user at the INC talk page. Have you requested a block? --
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Well if you could build your edit, article counts e.g. you would have a good chance. Behaviour will be scrutinized especially you behave under attacks. There is list of criterias. I'll focus on that later.-- Jondel 07:15, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
A long time long time ago , in a galax.....
when I used to be an anonymous, my comments at various talk and discussion pages would be removed/reverted even if relevant. If a person is anonymous, they can not expect that much recognition. We shouldn't entertain them . I will be
reverting or removing comments by anonymous people as appropriate.--
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At this point please edit using your best judgement. Do not be intimidated or ascribe to ' What is your source?' . Treat this demands with a grain of salt. Better not entertain Trolls. If the user does not register, he is not willing to be accountable and we should treated as persona non grata. You may of course choose to allow his comments if obeys rules of wiki behaviour. I'm more of an editor than admin but I've been trolled a few times already.-- Jondel 10:46, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
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Ouch. I just read the comment you wrote on Emico's talk page about rectracting your offer to help him:
Please don't take it personally. But I have to be fair and follow ArbCom's wishes and respect your personal attack parole. I have no choice but to block you from Wikipedia for 48 hours. I see your the problem with Emico. I'm thinking of ways to deal with it, now that WP has new features which could help issues like anonymous edits. -- LBMixPro <Sp e ak|on|it!> 12:49, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
At this moment, I'm trying to focus on getting the article improved, as much as Jondel is. Have you tried taking the issue to WP:AN/I
As I remember, the last spam that was handed out was on the 20th of December last year, so I think it's time for another update. First and foremost, the new Advisory Council and Administrator General have been elected. They consist of myself as Admin General and FireFox, Titoxd, Flcelloguy and Karmafist as the Advisory Council. We as a group met formally for the first time on the 31st of Decembe. The minutes of this meeting can be found at WP:ESP/ACM. The next one is planned for tonight (Sunday 29 January) at 20:30 UTC and the agenda can be found at WP:ESP/ACM2.
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I'm not sure if Rougeblossom ( talk · contribs) is Emico, but the username is suspect. To know that much about the doxology, the user is probably a choir member. How many doxologies INC has INC been through? In the 80s there was a different doxology not mentioned. I'm not sure about it's accuracy.
While we're at it, Can we do some work with the article? It's been stale for months, and it's almost been a year. I'd rather see the article restored by July, so we won't be in any more content disputes by the time the ArbCom remidies expire. -- LBMixPro <Sp e ak|on|it!> 17:24, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
I don't know who Emico is but I was a former choir member which explains how I know the lyrics. I agree that the lyrics to the hymns should probably not be posted on Wikipedia. However I see nothing wrong with a general description of the worship services.
I made a bulleted list of INC's beliefs in the Simple English version of the article. Could you proof read it? Although I tried to keep it to simple English, I'm not sure if some words may have different meanings to others. --20:11, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.
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I tried to get it semi'd (which has been around since November, so it's not that new) but they denied it saying there's not enough activity on the article. But I'll keep my eyes and watchlist out. BTW, I was reading the Primary Sources rule at WP:RS, and the letter about Felix's abuse is a primary source. Do you know if that letter was published elsewhere? Like a magazine, academic joural or whatever? -- LBMixPro <Sp e ak|on|it!> 21:25, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
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Please refrain from vandalizing and removing sourced content. Exacconwh 16:49, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
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Okay, I've taken care of it. BTW I'm begging you to take it up to WP:AIV next time. Also only admins can use the sockpuppet proven template because they can actually block. Also it would be a nice idea to write something on User:Onlytofind about what happened to the account, and why this one is used. -- wL< speak· check· chill> 07:11, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
I know it has been a while and I should have responded earlier. But please, do not accuse me again of being a sock puppet. RasterBlaster 19:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Created a work group on Iglesia ni Cristo at the location above. Took your name from the proposed project page. I will try to do what I can to help the project, but that might not be much, given my limited familiarity with the subject. John Carter 18:48, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
The Iglesia ni Cristo article received heavy editing today by new/unregistered users, which I noticed at WikiRage.com. The article may benefit from a good review. According to Wikipedia Page History Statistics, you are one of the top contributors to that page. If you have the time, would you please read over the article and make any necessary changes. Thanks. -- Jreferee ( Talk) 05:52, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
You might want to look at Wikipedia:Long term abuse/Primetime. He recently vandalized an INC related article that I've blocked him for. If he knows of what's been going on there, he's probably faking as Emico to start shit. That's why I'm username hardblocking any new Emico-style usernames as his sock. -- wL< speak· check> 05:11, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
You've been here for years, so you should be familiar with WP policies. Calling another editor a "jerk" isn't civil. Please treat other editors the way you'd want to be treated. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 03:30, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi Ironbrew,
According to Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry's talk page he "may be away from Wikipedia for long periods of time." That is also the case with me. Would you kindly help us keep an eye on the above articles. There is some problem with an editor called Dar_book who is using every trick in his "book" to whitewash the articles. He is quite quick, the moment I am gone he would edit them, like what happened today. It is getting on my nerves. Please see this link.
Thank you.
– Shannon Rose ( talk) 17:33, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
There is discussion regarding what if anything to do regarding the Iglesia ni Cristo work group at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Christianity/Iglesia ni Cristo work group#Fold back into parent project. Input from all listed members is more than welcome. Thank you. John Carter ( talk) 15:50, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Please don't vandalize my page again. RasterBlaster ( talk) 18:09, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello! I noticed that you edited the INC succession user box to indicate that the late Ka Erdy's son Eduardo is now the acting Executive Minister. Is there a confirmed source about this? Since I'm Catholic, I'm not familiar with how things work over at the INC. My impression, based on the news reports, if Ka Erdy's profile is a precedent, is that there will have first to be a formal election or convocation (or something like that, I'm not sure what term the INC uses) among the top INC ministers convened to name the next Executive Minister, and it is in this type of election that Eduardo Manalo is expected to be named. I have yet to see a news report that says he already assumed Acting Executive Minister duties after his father's death...or is this an automatic thing within the INC leadership, much like how a Vice President (of a country or corporation) is expected to succeed a President who died in office? Thanks in advance :) --- Tito Pao ( talk) 03:24, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.
Your recent long-term abuse report does not meet the criteria for inclusion, as it is not a long-term vandal. The user you reported was blocked, but LTA was not the place to file reports for vandalism. In the vast majority of cases Deny Recognition and Revert block ignore are more suitable approaches. Also, before submitting a report, please read the instructions, which included to list an entry on the main list and to transclude it on the full page. Netalarm talk 21:09, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
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Are you coffeemaker? -m — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.56.30.47 ( talk) 14:56, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
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Hi: Please avoid edit summaries that are critical of a person (such as "…after Emico's biased edit"). They violate our policy on civility and I would ask you to consider how you would feel if someone said that they did something "after Ironbrew's biased edit". You know that all articles related to INC are the subject of high emotion and we need to make conscious efforts to keep our discussions calm if we are to write the best possible articles. Please help with this. — Theo (Talk) 18:41, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
How does it help us to point out that Emico's already deleted edit "was definitely unfair and POV against those who disagree with the INC". It is one thing to point out why you wish to make a change to an article, but your post feels like an attack: "Let's hear what wrongheaded Emico has to say". I think that it is very important for us to be gentle with each other as we collaborate on this controversial topic. You were generous toward me when I made a mistake. Please extend that generosity to other editors. — Theo (Talk) 00:25, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
I sympathise with your anger. I am trying to address inappropriate behaviours as they arise. It is important that we do do not compound the wrongs of others by misbehaving in turn. Keep doing the good things that you are doing. — Theo (Talk) 09:37, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
Sorry for overwriting you last edit on the INC article. I've been busy trying to correct the grammar errors of these latests anon edits. At this point, I'll WP:AGF and assume they don't come from Emico, I've decided to keep some of the facts he brought, but keep focus on the section by removing redundancy and quotes that would make the article sound self-contradictory. -- LBMixPro (Speak on it!) 08:07, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Please refrain from editing other users userpages w/o good reason. Although you posted a sock puppet notice, they did they same to you. This makes it seem like neither is true. If you wish to leave a comment for someone, please do so on their talk page. Thank you. ∞ Who ?¿? 20:34, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
That's understandable, and I have been trying to go through the histories and talk with admins involved. It was better at the time to just remove both banners and notitfy both users. If you are having problems with another user, its better to ask for help from an admin, and Don't feed the trolls, it will save you some heartache, even if only a little. thanks for responding, and I will try to find out whats going on with the other user. ∞ Who ?¿? 22:13, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
I accept. Please accept mine as well. Emico 17:25, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks so much for the comments and for doing what you did at the Bereans forum. But I can't help but be concerned about the direction the articles are about to turn. I recently read the anon's post about burying the hatchet, and the whole argument reminded me of the War on Terrorism.
Although everybody belives the radical muslims who bomb communities think of them as criminals, they fail to realize the terrorists did it to serve God. Although we're dealing with a different religion and a different location, it seems too similar. Someone has no knowledge of the laws and regulations of Jimmy Wales' website, makes edits which are blatanly against it. It seems that he doesn't care about the laws, he feels God has sent him specifically to save the Church from distortion, and would destroy everything which gets in his way. The people of the site believe he's out to ruin the integrity of it, in which he is, the attacks he maded only slowed progress with the site, as well as waste bandwidth and disk space. I'm here for Wikipedia. When I went to Wikipedia, I didn't do it because INC was there. I was registered at Wikipedia about 4 months before finding out about INC's article. INC is just another article, equally important. The only thing different is this article is prone to POV pushers, and clueless newbies. I care enough for this religion to contribute. I'm not editing the article for the INC, but at the same time, I am.
Although the article is about the INC, it's not made for it. I embrace the goal of this Encyclopedia, and the community behind it. But I'm not going to fight a holy war to defend this Wiki. Of course I'm not an expert, only minsters and high members are. But I know enough to make a useful contribution. If I didn't, I wouldn't have edited the article in the first place. Starbucks doesn't know me, he doesn't know my experiences with INC, but he commented as if he did. This is an enyclopedia which is designed for everybody to edit, completely against the view of Starbucks. But I'm not going to take the same road I took with Emico. I'm calling different channels, which are capable of explaining the intent of Wikipedia to people. If he wants to write a definite guide to INC, he can make a site of his own. But Wikipedia is not a place to put it. Starbucks doesn't own the article. INC doesn't own the article. I don't own the article. You don't own the article.
I can't stand the crap Starbucks throws at me, but after completely reading all the stuff he said today, (since the tension has gone down a bit) I'm going to cool off by leaving the article to only INC members, until the next Wikipedian comes and challenges his views. Hopefully it won't be a sysop. I don't know when I'll be back. But I have other articles, which are equally important as this one. All articles are equally important, and it pisses me off when someone tells me one article is less "serious" than another. They're a lot of wikipedians who make trivial edits to articles they believe have bad grammar. The problem will be when people like Starbucks attack them, because they don't see it as a grammar fix, but a twist to their doctorine.
Hopefully while I'm gone, you can help improve the article, at least to get that WP:V notice off the page. Until Ealva or Glenn comes back to the wiki and balance the integrity of the Wiki and the Iglesia. I can't deal with this problem alone, and I'm hoping people can get through to him. -- LBMixPro <Speak|on|it!> 23:57, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
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Iron, are you an sysop? I 'm thinking of blocking the disruptive anonymous user at the INC talk page. Have you requested a block? --
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Well if you could build your edit, article counts e.g. you would have a good chance. Behaviour will be scrutinized especially you behave under attacks. There is list of criterias. I'll focus on that later.-- Jondel 07:15, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
A long time long time ago , in a galax.....
when I used to be an anonymous, my comments at various talk and discussion pages would be removed/reverted even if relevant. If a person is anonymous, they can not expect that much recognition. We shouldn't entertain them . I will be
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At this point please edit using your best judgement. Do not be intimidated or ascribe to ' What is your source?' . Treat this demands with a grain of salt. Better not entertain Trolls. If the user does not register, he is not willing to be accountable and we should treated as persona non grata. You may of course choose to allow his comments if obeys rules of wiki behaviour. I'm more of an editor than admin but I've been trolled a few times already.-- Jondel 10:46, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
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Ouch. I just read the comment you wrote on Emico's talk page about rectracting your offer to help him:
Please don't take it personally. But I have to be fair and follow ArbCom's wishes and respect your personal attack parole. I have no choice but to block you from Wikipedia for 48 hours. I see your the problem with Emico. I'm thinking of ways to deal with it, now that WP has new features which could help issues like anonymous edits. -- LBMixPro <Sp e ak|on|it!> 12:49, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
At this moment, I'm trying to focus on getting the article improved, as much as Jondel is. Have you tried taking the issue to WP:AN/I
As I remember, the last spam that was handed out was on the 20th of December last year, so I think it's time for another update. First and foremost, the new Advisory Council and Administrator General have been elected. They consist of myself as Admin General and FireFox, Titoxd, Flcelloguy and Karmafist as the Advisory Council. We as a group met formally for the first time on the 31st of Decembe. The minutes of this meeting can be found at WP:ESP/ACM. The next one is planned for tonight (Sunday 29 January) at 20:30 UTC and the agenda can be found at WP:ESP/ACM2.
In other news, Karmafist has set up a discussion about a new personal attack policy, which it can be found here. Other new pages include an introductory page on what to do when you sign up, So you've joined Esperanza... and a welcome template: {{ EA-welcome}} (courtesy of Bratsche). Some of our old hands may like to make sure they do everything on the list as well ;) Additionally, the userpage award program proposal has become official is operational: see Wikipedia:Esperanza/User Page Award to nominate a userpage or volunteer as a judge. Also see the proposed programs page for many new proposals and old ones that need more discussion ;)
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I'm not sure if Rougeblossom ( talk · contribs) is Emico, but the username is suspect. To know that much about the doxology, the user is probably a choir member. How many doxologies INC has INC been through? In the 80s there was a different doxology not mentioned. I'm not sure about it's accuracy.
While we're at it, Can we do some work with the article? It's been stale for months, and it's almost been a year. I'd rather see the article restored by July, so we won't be in any more content disputes by the time the ArbCom remidies expire. -- LBMixPro <Sp e ak|on|it!> 17:24, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
I don't know who Emico is but I was a former choir member which explains how I know the lyrics. I agree that the lyrics to the hymns should probably not be posted on Wikipedia. However I see nothing wrong with a general description of the worship services.
I made a bulleted list of INC's beliefs in the Simple English version of the article. Could you proof read it? Although I tried to keep it to simple English, I'm not sure if some words may have different meanings to others. --20:11, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.
As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Wikipedia:Esperanza/June 2006 elections.
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I tried to get it semi'd (which has been around since November, so it's not that new) but they denied it saying there's not enough activity on the article. But I'll keep my eyes and watchlist out. BTW, I was reading the Primary Sources rule at WP:RS, and the letter about Felix's abuse is a primary source. Do you know if that letter was published elsewhere? Like a magazine, academic joural or whatever? -- LBMixPro <Sp e ak|on|it!> 21:25, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
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Please refrain from vandalizing and removing sourced content. Exacconwh 16:49, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
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Okay, I've taken care of it. BTW I'm begging you to take it up to WP:AIV next time. Also only admins can use the sockpuppet proven template because they can actually block. Also it would be a nice idea to write something on User:Onlytofind about what happened to the account, and why this one is used. -- wL< speak· check· chill> 07:11, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
I know it has been a while and I should have responded earlier. But please, do not accuse me again of being a sock puppet. RasterBlaster 19:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Created a work group on Iglesia ni Cristo at the location above. Took your name from the proposed project page. I will try to do what I can to help the project, but that might not be much, given my limited familiarity with the subject. John Carter 18:48, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
The Iglesia ni Cristo article received heavy editing today by new/unregistered users, which I noticed at WikiRage.com. The article may benefit from a good review. According to Wikipedia Page History Statistics, you are one of the top contributors to that page. If you have the time, would you please read over the article and make any necessary changes. Thanks. -- Jreferee ( Talk) 05:52, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
You might want to look at Wikipedia:Long term abuse/Primetime. He recently vandalized an INC related article that I've blocked him for. If he knows of what's been going on there, he's probably faking as Emico to start shit. That's why I'm username hardblocking any new Emico-style usernames as his sock. -- wL< speak· check> 05:11, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
You've been here for years, so you should be familiar with WP policies. Calling another editor a "jerk" isn't civil. Please treat other editors the way you'd want to be treated. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 03:30, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi Ironbrew,
According to Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry's talk page he "may be away from Wikipedia for long periods of time." That is also the case with me. Would you kindly help us keep an eye on the above articles. There is some problem with an editor called Dar_book who is using every trick in his "book" to whitewash the articles. He is quite quick, the moment I am gone he would edit them, like what happened today. It is getting on my nerves. Please see this link.
Thank you.
– Shannon Rose ( talk) 17:33, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
There is discussion regarding what if anything to do regarding the Iglesia ni Cristo work group at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Christianity/Iglesia ni Cristo work group#Fold back into parent project. Input from all listed members is more than welcome. Thank you. John Carter ( talk) 15:50, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Please don't vandalize my page again. RasterBlaster ( talk) 18:09, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello! I noticed that you edited the INC succession user box to indicate that the late Ka Erdy's son Eduardo is now the acting Executive Minister. Is there a confirmed source about this? Since I'm Catholic, I'm not familiar with how things work over at the INC. My impression, based on the news reports, if Ka Erdy's profile is a precedent, is that there will have first to be a formal election or convocation (or something like that, I'm not sure what term the INC uses) among the top INC ministers convened to name the next Executive Minister, and it is in this type of election that Eduardo Manalo is expected to be named. I have yet to see a news report that says he already assumed Acting Executive Minister duties after his father's death...or is this an automatic thing within the INC leadership, much like how a Vice President (of a country or corporation) is expected to succeed a President who died in office? Thanks in advance :) --- Tito Pao ( talk) 03:24, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.
Your recent long-term abuse report does not meet the criteria for inclusion, as it is not a long-term vandal. The user you reported was blocked, but LTA was not the place to file reports for vandalism. In the vast majority of cases Deny Recognition and Revert block ignore are more suitable approaches. Also, before submitting a report, please read the instructions, which included to list an entry on the main list and to transclude it on the full page. Netalarm talk 21:09, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
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