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I've noticed your mention of a javascript for softblocking or self-blocking using monobook.js. Can you tell me how this works and how to use it? I've tried testing it on my monobook.js and it doesn't seem to work, but I think I'm doing it wrong. Can you help? Neapolitan Sixth ( talk) 15:16, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
That's another good editor I've fooled into thinking I'm an admin :D
Please, don't take this the wrong way, but I'd appreciate you removing me from your list of "community ban" participants. I just contributed to the RfC, is all. Hoping this produces a Δdrama < 0, SHEFFIELDSTEEL TALK 20:09, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I thought you might be interested that your user page came up in a discussion regarding some minor improvements to the logo image, at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#New_logo. Also seen you around at administrators noticeboard and just wanted to say hi and give you a much-belated welcome. :-) Let me know if there's ever anything I can help out with, and happy editing. Dcoetzee 01:55, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
I just wanted to apologise for posting what amounted to an accusation against you on AN. I really didn't mean it to come out that way; I just wanted to try to encourage everyone to calm down. I had a vision of a whole bunch of admins I respect going out of control like a row of dominoes, and I wanted to try and stop it. Sorry I did such a poor job, and you caught the worst of it. SHEFFIELDSTEEL TALK 02:59, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your support at my recent Request for adminship. It’s been my pleasure to work with you, too, and I hope to do so again. I hope you find I live up to your expectations. Best, Risker ( talk) 14:08, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
User:LaraLove/Userbox/RacistOnlyOnWP, a page you created, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:LaraLove/Userbox/RacistOnlyOnWP and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:LaraLove/Userbox/RacistOnlyOnWP during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. ⇒ SWATJester Son of the Defender 15:30, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
As long as the comments stand in the Arbitration case, I'm going to point out what the community has endorsed. I'm not removing the message from my talk page as I feel it's more important to let this ride out and give the community an opportunity to correct a grossly inappropriate accusation, or set a precedence that it's acceptable for one user to falsely accuse another of being a racist, but not acceptable for the falsely accused to voice their disgust. Lara ❤ Love 18:40, 16 May 2008 (UTC) Also note that this can also have a negative affect on Wikipedia as it gives right for users to label others based on the articles they edit. This may lead to a feeling that one cannot edit taboo articles, even to correct the NPOV, without risking being labeled inaccurately, and in a way that may damage their reputation. In that regard, this is not simply a personal attack, but rather a community endorsement that could negatively impact the encyclopedia. Lara ❤ Love 20:20, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
WP:ANI#User:LaraLove's controversial userbox. Equazcion •✗/ C • 22:31, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Heya Lara. Just wanted to give you a message of support about what's going on. No matter what else is going on, we need to be supportive of each other. If you need someone to vent at or whatever, just shoot me an email ok? (ugh, stupid flu medicine :D) SirFozzie ( talk) 23:41, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
I love you, you know I do. Email is there. dihydrogen monoxide ( H2O) 00:15, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you all!! I needed this. Sigh. I'm disgusted and baffled by the ignorance and hypocrisy that surrounds this situation, and it's very good to know that I'm not alone in viewing SWAT's comments as inappropriate. In that some still peg me as a racist, after I've clearly detailed that I am not, I'm just utterly floored. How awesomely stupid some people can be. Lara ❤ Love 08:20, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Here's some support from me too; you two are being railroaded over absolutely nothing but some vacuous accusation of thoughtcrime. What's worse than the accusations of racism is that they were done, not on their own empty merits, but solely in order to complain about an admin action, and then to deride anyone who defended said person or even their admin action; I believe that is in the "ad hominem" section in my book of logical fallacies. Keep up the good fight and don't let them get you down. :) -- Golbez ( talk) 18:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
...are getting really boring. Forget about this junk and have a nice weekend. Raymond Arritt ( talk) 02:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
I regret bringing the userbox business to ANI. The last thing I intended to do was start a huge continuation of the previous drama, but I guess I should've known that's what it would turn into. So, sorry abut that. Equazcion •✗/ C • 12:29, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
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I hereby award you the newly-invented Inadvertent Drama Award, for your singular achievement in provoking the discussion with the highest (discussion length)/(things worth discussing) ratio yet. Congratulations, and commiserations to WT:RFA for being beaten into second place. — iride scent 16:50, 17 May 2008 (UTC) |
Ah. Finally it's over and I can laugh. Thanks, haha. Lara ❤ Love 07:41, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
I would have voted a Strong Keep. I have been nursing an infected leg and have thus been limiting my time on wiki. I have participated in many anti-racist civil rights marches over the years and I agree with you about wiki. and I do not find your comments to be racist. The fact that the community voted for the deletion is a strong case in point. Anyway I still have your page on my watchlist and my leg is much improved. So I am going to make a point of chiming in if you get in more trouble pursuant to this matter. Be Well. Danny Weintraub Albion moonlight ( talk) 19:41, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
To be honest, I gave up practical politics twenty years ago. It was physically exhausting trying to put forward a "live and let live" philosophy when I was part of a group of five, albeit enthusiastic, within a larger cohort of forty, all with entrenched and, of course, "entirely correct", points of view. Sometimes, it isn't worth the candle. I keep away from politics here partly for that reason, but also because there are other things to do; I have article projects to tackle; it would be good to get a Triple Crown as time permits. But I applaud your tenacity. Stick with it, Lara. While some editors are apparently heading to hell in a handcart, you stick with it, kiddo. I'm with you, and Chip. Much love, and kudos. -- Rodhull andemu 20:21, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
My deepest appreciation to everyone who supported me during all this, both on-wiki, in IRC and via e-mail. It's been a life lesson, to say the least. For all the ignorant people that continued to call me a racist after all that shit, it's a drop kick to the face from reality that I'm ignorant myself. Coming from white European ancestry, I have great pride in how this country came to be. Risking everything, traveling an ocean, building a democracy. Political and religious freedom. Unalienable rights. I had to sit down and really think about all this today. Because everything went so fast this week that I never stopped to think about any of it. I turned to one of my closest friends here and got a reality check after discussing it with a couple of my friends at work.
I think it's just a feeling I got as a kid, learning about the foundation of this country, an overwhelming sense of pride, knowing my ancestors had done this, and that feeling has never faded. Talking to my dad about this as a kid, sharing my excitement with this newfound knowledge, he said to me, "Sweet pea, that's white pride." So that's always stuck with me. When I talked about this with my friends at work, they were with me. So I guess it's just a matter of how we're raised here. Now, putting greater thought into it, my dad (who, for the record, I hate and have not spoken to for eight years now) is a white supremacist, which is not something I grew up knowing... you just don't realize this shit as a kid. To give him a shred of credit (not really), he hates everyone, including white people, pretty equally, but he's still totally racist. But he never identified as a white prider. So as I got older and learned what his views meant, as far as racism goes, that became pretty obvious. But still, for me, living in the south where I do, white pride != white supremacy.
So, anyway, in my reality check, I was told "Well, that's more like proud to be an American." But for me, that's more about being proud of what America is today. Not to say I'm not proud to be an American, but again, this is just sort of something that has stuck with me since my childhood that I never knew was perceived so totally different elsewhere, which is where my ignorance comes in. The totally ironic part being that I'm called a racist when a big part of my pride regards how awesome it is to live in such diversity. I married a German, I have an Italian best friend, a German best-wiki-friend, a Mexican best-work-friend. And my other friends include black, Jewish, Polish, Asian, Pacific Islander... and of various religions. It's really quite cool, in my opinion.
I never intended to offend anyone. I was just too blown away by being called a racist to stop and see why there was a double standard on pride and how so many people believed that pride could ever be supremacy. I do, however, stand by the fact that there are white priders that do not hold racist views. Perhaps the title is forever tarnished for being abused by racists, but there are people, like myself, that were raised to believe something different than much of the world apparently perceives. Poorly educated in regards to racism, I may be. But I'm not racist. Lara ❤ Love 07:08, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
You seem very interesting (and beautiful) and I saw you had an Encyclopedia Dramatica article. They are a sorry bunch. I do not think you are a racist. Electricbassguy ( talk) 08:35, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
I would like to know too. If you find out, you could teach me your tricks, so I could get an article about me in ED as well. Electricbassguy ( talk) 12:31, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
I like attention in all its forms. Electricbassguy ( talk) 02:59, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
...why would it matter if I did sign in, even if I could. Partisan actions like that is part of what made me so sick of this place. Looks like people supported my revert anyway... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.198.97.129 ( talk) 03:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Just thaught Id say thanks for all your work on Tool. Im a huge fan and I know I can always use wiki for accurate news on 'em. Go you!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iowaseven ( talk • contribs) 11:46, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Funnily enough I had been dissing the word 'unencyclopedic' but might have to revise my opinion....
OK, you may have an opinion on this...mnemonic - good or poor taste? Cheers, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 13:36, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
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For a very pretty user page. Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk | Sign 20:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC) |
Lara, you need to fix your conom. You changed stances on his third RfA. That is where the GA issue came about, by his fourth RfA you were supporting---which is why I suggested you as a conom. Balloonman ( talk) 04:46, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Your nom has the following line an issue with caused me to lose a lot of trust in him. An issue with what? Balloonman ( talk) 05:58, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
OMG VBULLETIN! Could you register an account for me, and send me the password via wiki mail? OMG VBULLETIN! I will try and get a bathrobe soon, within the next 3 years. OMG VBULLETIN! <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 05:52, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
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I've noticed your mention of a javascript for softblocking or self-blocking using monobook.js. Can you tell me how this works and how to use it? I've tried testing it on my monobook.js and it doesn't seem to work, but I think I'm doing it wrong. Can you help? Neapolitan Sixth ( talk) 15:16, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
That's another good editor I've fooled into thinking I'm an admin :D
Please, don't take this the wrong way, but I'd appreciate you removing me from your list of "community ban" participants. I just contributed to the RfC, is all. Hoping this produces a Δdrama < 0, SHEFFIELDSTEEL TALK 20:09, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I thought you might be interested that your user page came up in a discussion regarding some minor improvements to the logo image, at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#New_logo. Also seen you around at administrators noticeboard and just wanted to say hi and give you a much-belated welcome. :-) Let me know if there's ever anything I can help out with, and happy editing. Dcoetzee 01:55, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
I just wanted to apologise for posting what amounted to an accusation against you on AN. I really didn't mean it to come out that way; I just wanted to try to encourage everyone to calm down. I had a vision of a whole bunch of admins I respect going out of control like a row of dominoes, and I wanted to try and stop it. Sorry I did such a poor job, and you caught the worst of it. SHEFFIELDSTEEL TALK 02:59, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your support at my recent Request for adminship. It’s been my pleasure to work with you, too, and I hope to do so again. I hope you find I live up to your expectations. Best, Risker ( talk) 14:08, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
User:LaraLove/Userbox/RacistOnlyOnWP, a page you created, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:LaraLove/Userbox/RacistOnlyOnWP and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:LaraLove/Userbox/RacistOnlyOnWP during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. ⇒ SWATJester Son of the Defender 15:30, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
As long as the comments stand in the Arbitration case, I'm going to point out what the community has endorsed. I'm not removing the message from my talk page as I feel it's more important to let this ride out and give the community an opportunity to correct a grossly inappropriate accusation, or set a precedence that it's acceptable for one user to falsely accuse another of being a racist, but not acceptable for the falsely accused to voice their disgust. Lara ❤ Love 18:40, 16 May 2008 (UTC) Also note that this can also have a negative affect on Wikipedia as it gives right for users to label others based on the articles they edit. This may lead to a feeling that one cannot edit taboo articles, even to correct the NPOV, without risking being labeled inaccurately, and in a way that may damage their reputation. In that regard, this is not simply a personal attack, but rather a community endorsement that could negatively impact the encyclopedia. Lara ❤ Love 20:20, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
WP:ANI#User:LaraLove's controversial userbox. Equazcion •✗/ C • 22:31, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Heya Lara. Just wanted to give you a message of support about what's going on. No matter what else is going on, we need to be supportive of each other. If you need someone to vent at or whatever, just shoot me an email ok? (ugh, stupid flu medicine :D) SirFozzie ( talk) 23:41, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
I love you, you know I do. Email is there. dihydrogen monoxide ( H2O) 00:15, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you all!! I needed this. Sigh. I'm disgusted and baffled by the ignorance and hypocrisy that surrounds this situation, and it's very good to know that I'm not alone in viewing SWAT's comments as inappropriate. In that some still peg me as a racist, after I've clearly detailed that I am not, I'm just utterly floored. How awesomely stupid some people can be. Lara ❤ Love 08:20, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Here's some support from me too; you two are being railroaded over absolutely nothing but some vacuous accusation of thoughtcrime. What's worse than the accusations of racism is that they were done, not on their own empty merits, but solely in order to complain about an admin action, and then to deride anyone who defended said person or even their admin action; I believe that is in the "ad hominem" section in my book of logical fallacies. Keep up the good fight and don't let them get you down. :) -- Golbez ( talk) 18:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
...are getting really boring. Forget about this junk and have a nice weekend. Raymond Arritt ( talk) 02:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
I regret bringing the userbox business to ANI. The last thing I intended to do was start a huge continuation of the previous drama, but I guess I should've known that's what it would turn into. So, sorry abut that. Equazcion •✗/ C • 12:29, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
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The Inadvertent Drama Award | |
I hereby award you the newly-invented Inadvertent Drama Award, for your singular achievement in provoking the discussion with the highest (discussion length)/(things worth discussing) ratio yet. Congratulations, and commiserations to WT:RFA for being beaten into second place. — iride scent 16:50, 17 May 2008 (UTC) |
Ah. Finally it's over and I can laugh. Thanks, haha. Lara ❤ Love 07:41, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
I would have voted a Strong Keep. I have been nursing an infected leg and have thus been limiting my time on wiki. I have participated in many anti-racist civil rights marches over the years and I agree with you about wiki. and I do not find your comments to be racist. The fact that the community voted for the deletion is a strong case in point. Anyway I still have your page on my watchlist and my leg is much improved. So I am going to make a point of chiming in if you get in more trouble pursuant to this matter. Be Well. Danny Weintraub Albion moonlight ( talk) 19:41, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
To be honest, I gave up practical politics twenty years ago. It was physically exhausting trying to put forward a "live and let live" philosophy when I was part of a group of five, albeit enthusiastic, within a larger cohort of forty, all with entrenched and, of course, "entirely correct", points of view. Sometimes, it isn't worth the candle. I keep away from politics here partly for that reason, but also because there are other things to do; I have article projects to tackle; it would be good to get a Triple Crown as time permits. But I applaud your tenacity. Stick with it, Lara. While some editors are apparently heading to hell in a handcart, you stick with it, kiddo. I'm with you, and Chip. Much love, and kudos. -- Rodhull andemu 20:21, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
My deepest appreciation to everyone who supported me during all this, both on-wiki, in IRC and via e-mail. It's been a life lesson, to say the least. For all the ignorant people that continued to call me a racist after all that shit, it's a drop kick to the face from reality that I'm ignorant myself. Coming from white European ancestry, I have great pride in how this country came to be. Risking everything, traveling an ocean, building a democracy. Political and religious freedom. Unalienable rights. I had to sit down and really think about all this today. Because everything went so fast this week that I never stopped to think about any of it. I turned to one of my closest friends here and got a reality check after discussing it with a couple of my friends at work.
I think it's just a feeling I got as a kid, learning about the foundation of this country, an overwhelming sense of pride, knowing my ancestors had done this, and that feeling has never faded. Talking to my dad about this as a kid, sharing my excitement with this newfound knowledge, he said to me, "Sweet pea, that's white pride." So that's always stuck with me. When I talked about this with my friends at work, they were with me. So I guess it's just a matter of how we're raised here. Now, putting greater thought into it, my dad (who, for the record, I hate and have not spoken to for eight years now) is a white supremacist, which is not something I grew up knowing... you just don't realize this shit as a kid. To give him a shred of credit (not really), he hates everyone, including white people, pretty equally, but he's still totally racist. But he never identified as a white prider. So as I got older and learned what his views meant, as far as racism goes, that became pretty obvious. But still, for me, living in the south where I do, white pride != white supremacy.
So, anyway, in my reality check, I was told "Well, that's more like proud to be an American." But for me, that's more about being proud of what America is today. Not to say I'm not proud to be an American, but again, this is just sort of something that has stuck with me since my childhood that I never knew was perceived so totally different elsewhere, which is where my ignorance comes in. The totally ironic part being that I'm called a racist when a big part of my pride regards how awesome it is to live in such diversity. I married a German, I have an Italian best friend, a German best-wiki-friend, a Mexican best-work-friend. And my other friends include black, Jewish, Polish, Asian, Pacific Islander... and of various religions. It's really quite cool, in my opinion.
I never intended to offend anyone. I was just too blown away by being called a racist to stop and see why there was a double standard on pride and how so many people believed that pride could ever be supremacy. I do, however, stand by the fact that there are white priders that do not hold racist views. Perhaps the title is forever tarnished for being abused by racists, but there are people, like myself, that were raised to believe something different than much of the world apparently perceives. Poorly educated in regards to racism, I may be. But I'm not racist. Lara ❤ Love 07:08, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
You seem very interesting (and beautiful) and I saw you had an Encyclopedia Dramatica article. They are a sorry bunch. I do not think you are a racist. Electricbassguy ( talk) 08:35, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
I would like to know too. If you find out, you could teach me your tricks, so I could get an article about me in ED as well. Electricbassguy ( talk) 12:31, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
I like attention in all its forms. Electricbassguy ( talk) 02:59, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
...why would it matter if I did sign in, even if I could. Partisan actions like that is part of what made me so sick of this place. Looks like people supported my revert anyway... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.198.97.129 ( talk) 03:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Just thaught Id say thanks for all your work on Tool. Im a huge fan and I know I can always use wiki for accurate news on 'em. Go you!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iowaseven ( talk • contribs) 11:46, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Funnily enough I had been dissing the word 'unencyclopedic' but might have to revise my opinion....
OK, you may have an opinion on this...mnemonic - good or poor taste? Cheers, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 13:36, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
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The Excellent Userpage Award | |
For a very pretty user page. Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk | Sign 20:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC) |
Lara, you need to fix your conom. You changed stances on his third RfA. That is where the GA issue came about, by his fourth RfA you were supporting---which is why I suggested you as a conom. Balloonman ( talk) 04:46, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Your nom has the following line an issue with caused me to lose a lot of trust in him. An issue with what? Balloonman ( talk) 05:58, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
OMG VBULLETIN! Could you register an account for me, and send me the password via wiki mail? OMG VBULLETIN! I will try and get a bathrobe soon, within the next 3 years. OMG VBULLETIN! <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 05:52, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
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The influence of your efforts to clean up the Elvis Presley notes, footnotes, etc. is still being felt and much appreciated. I'd give you a hug, but my arms aren't quite long enough... Rikstar ( talk) 13:39, 31 May 2008 (UTC)