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... for fixing my typo on the RfA. Regards, Newyorkbrad ( talk) 17:21, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Hello Sir ,
I am just not much familiar to Wiki in editing and posting information but i regularly vist your page for information and i would now like to add DPS Azaad Nagar as a Part of Wikipedia's info page. We are an Education Based Society in Kanpur India and believe in Education as right in the society. I would like to dispaly information for my school in wiki so plz kindly help me publishing the same. I am concerned about "Speedy Deletion Process". I abide by your rules for not posting any promotional content. I see my page only provides information of school for education purpose. i want my page to be displayed as /info/en/?search=Delhi_Public_School,_R._K._Puram#History
Kindly help me regarading the same
Alok Singh (aks2103@gmail.com) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aks2103 ( talk • contribs) 07:38, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
Google search is your friend. For redirects recently created, ie the original name is recently created then we are pretty safe to delete. But for old names, eg a year old there is a good chance that the file or page will have been referenced off Wikipedia by someone else. We may think that mirrors or others copying images are not important. But we break their legal requirement to give attribution by a link if we take away their target. Graeme Bartlett ( talk) 20:09, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks sir for your reply and guidence and reply .. ok once i am done with the article can that be approved you ? i am afraid if i post and its caught under speedy deletion criteria under a new section , so is that possible before posting we can get it approved by you ? Awating your positive reply !
Alok (aks2103@gmail.com) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aks2103 ( talk • contribs) 04:46, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
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![]() | On 11 September 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Osuwa Daiko, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Osuwa Daiko was one of the first groups to popularize taiko music through its performance at the 1964 Summer Olympics in Tokyo? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Osuwa Daiko. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project ( nominate) 00:03, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
I'm absolutely certain you know it, your fingers just didn't do what your brain told them, but the Good Doctor spelt his name with one s and two as. I'd've corrected it, but it's on your user page, and i don't believe that's for me to edit. Cheers, Lindsay Hello 18:28, 11 September 2013 (UTC) PS: I'm kinda sorry to have noted the name-change; i liked your previous one.
![]() | On 14 September 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Eitetsu Hayashi, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Eitetsu Hayashi (pictured), along with other group members of Ondekoza, repeatedly ran the Boston Marathon just prior to taiko performances? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Eitetsu Hayashi. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project ( nominate) 00:02, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
hello sir jethro. seeing as ive been able to see a part of your lifes activities I hope you don't mind me sharing a bit of mine with you. im 50 ,live in northern alberta Canada,an avid science seeker from a young age . my grade three teacher instill me with some very intriguing devices ,only one,a simple way to make browns gas, have I seen to date. the ancient knowledge quite possably stumbled apon by gentlemen like mr tesla and ed may very well be hiden in a Bosnian pyramid waiting to be rediscovered. coral castle in florida where ed cut and levitated huge coral blocks ,used this technology, and the simplest bare bones of this device still exists there to day, . my small group ,are all ready generating hundreds apon hundred of volts ,and with the device having a larger capacitance into the millions. from there understanding the devices for cutting the stone, like whats left from the past, to levitating them into place, are all ready a reality . you can also make a self levitating device for space exploration, or simply lifting materials to outer orbit. but really no need as materials are made from the gasses and all the elements can be created threw the device explained under the heading/plasma interaction with hydrogen oxygen nitrogen and carbon to create the fundamental elements. I understand the difficulties Wikipedia must have to keep everything together,lol and greatly appreciate the opportunity to share and express my views and findings.im sure in the end we are all searching for the same truths and all hope for the same outcome, a peacefull planet. to be honest , ive only had this computer for a year and am still trying to figure it out. lol, an update to /electron spin reversal in a d.c. circuit terminating into ie. space. had the circuit run for 20 days after initiation and a 10 day half life before stopping. mr. Tesla drove around in a car with an antenna as part of his circuit terminating into space. I use ie. as an example as there are more than one way to terminate the circuit. most people that I interact with understand the implication of these ancient devices. some are happy witheach level of technology, they have achieved , from levitation to transmutation to production of materials,,there still exists more and probably always will. please note that the page under absorption by carbon was kept short and simple. carbon simply absorbs electro magnetic energy , it is why there is a loss of voltage at the brush, and why it absorbs radio frequency when it is interacted with a secondary plasma field created and using the expanded energy from the initial plasma field. words terms and phrases lol hope to talk again ron Ronald sykes ( talk) 05:09, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
I understand the difficulties Wikipedia must have to keep everything together,lol and greatly appreciate the opportunity to share and express my views and findings.
its simply me not being able to interact properly with Wikipedia due to my lack of knowledge of the computer. it was given to me last Christmas by a friend ,otherwise I still probably would never have started learning how to use it. Ronald sykes ( talk) 05:59, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi I JethroBT! I've just come across one of your edits (or that you have been patrolling new pages), and noticed that you might appreciate some help with references.
I case you're not aware, you might consider using this tool – it makes your life a whole heap easier, by filling in complete citation templates for your links. All you do is install the script:
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onto Special:MyPage/skin.js, then paste the bare URL between your <ref></ref> tabs, and you'll find a clickable link called Reflinks in your toolbox section of the page (probably in the left hand column). Then click that tool. It does all the rest of the work (provided that you remember to save the page! It doesn't work for everything (particularly often not for PDF documents), but for pretty much anything ending in "htm" or "html" (and with a title) it will do really, really well. You may consider taking on Category:Articles needing link rot cleanup. So long! -- Sp33dyphil © hat ontributions 07:09, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
I thought you should be aware of this. Cheers, Stalwart 111 07:50, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
SarahStierch ( talk) 20:02, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
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Not wanting to dredge up the whole thing again, and agreeing that we can disagree, I want to ask you why the obvious self-promotion of this guy and his use of Wikipedia for that purpose seemed to have so little traction for you (see WP:NOTPROMOTION). Between us, I think you can see that this guy is bullshit artist, as did others in the discussion. If he's successful at getting middlebrow executives to part with their money for his brand of training... well, he's making a comfortable living. But what concerns me is the exploitation of Wikipedia and your comments never really addressed that. You dwelt on notability... we don't have to get into that because we already did... but what do you think about balancing things with regard to self-promotion? Non promotion is a real Wikipedia concern. Notability is one too. I didn't see any balance in your comments, just a laser-like focus on notability.
I'd like to make an observation without wanting to seem like an attack on you, so not being able to find the words, let me just be direct... You said some things about PR that were showed little practical knowledge and seemed to be naive about how marketing professionals operate nowadays. You doubted somewhat incredulously that mainstream magazines could be used as PR vehicles. The reality is that they can be. I work with some corporate marketing guys and know first hand how they operate and the level of deception involved nowadays. One particular acquaintance of mine (not exactly a friend) quit because he couldn't stomach the deception anymore... and it was his job specifically to place product/services into news stories of mainstream magazines and newspapers. Seriously, that was his job. Guys like him would say that a lapses in journalism ethics wasn't their problem, it was the journalists' problem. In some instances the marketers write the "news" story copy for the journalists to use simply use, as is, *unattributed*... and they give themselves high fives whenever they pull it off. This happens very easily as one might imagine in small, local newspapers and in industry newsletters/journals. But big guys like WSJ, Forbes, etc are constantly targeted. And it works (!!!) there too not because of lack of editorial control but because of different needs of the mega-media organizations, namely, they have a ravenous need for web content. WSJ and Forbes, for example have extensive blogs, so one strategy for the marketers is to target the journalist blog to pick up your item, then wait and push it to the news editors, being able to point out it was already part of WSJ or Forbes etc website content. The editors know this is poor journalism (a necessary evil, lazy, bad, unethical... the rationalizations vary) but they have a content beast to feed so they do it. You're not going to find this taught in business schools but that's common practice. So it's wrong to think something is notable just because it appears in a newpaper / magazine.... mostly it is, but a minority of things are exploitations of the system.
This is the way the neuroleadership guy did it. Several of his initial targets were news organization blogs, then other news organizations would cite each other. What I was trying to do when showing how many articles there were in the academic literature and then tracing it back to the neuroleadership guy's website... that wasn't "original research" as you characterized it, rather it was objectively showing how he got his marketing stuff into the secondary sources of seeming repute... the ones that you were doggedly focused on. He got is company and services recognized, but he did not create a new field. BTW, looking at your photo, I've got about about 20 years more on you with a lot of experience in a variety of fields. Also, I see that you do really good work. So please take my "experienced" advice to be less black & white about things like the notability issue and others... more nuance will benefit Wikipedia as well as yourself. The reason I'm following up is not because I lack better things to do but precisely because you obviously do good work and are dedicated... and I'd like to influence that dedication. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lapabc ( talk • contribs) 19:31, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Your
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Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Socks cat 1.JPG, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Adam Cuerden ( talk) 16:28, 20 September 2013 (UTC) |
[1] What does this mean? Your closure doesn't make any sense. As I said in the discussion "You can't word things in a way that make it sound like he might be racist, trying to lead people to that assumption, since that violates BLP." Someone calls the police to report crimes in the area, and by chance these people just happen to be of a different race. Why would you mention that if it has no possible relevance at all? He had black friends, he mentored black youths, his black neighbor spoke well of him. This violates BLP to try to give undue weight to ridiculously bias media sources. There is no possible way to word it without it making him sound racists. Dream Focus 21:56, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
When you crossed out the old reviewer, I think you must have done something wrong, because it's messing up Wikipedia:Good article nominations/Topic lists/Media and drama. Could you fix this, please? Taylor Trescott - my talk + my edits 11:02, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
Is there some way to get a contents list on the talk page? -- Sriram speak up 08:01, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks you for completing the review in such a short time. By the way, I have replied to some comments in the discussion section. Can you take a look and let me know what you think? -- Sriram speak up 08:15, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi!
Can you please have a look at Anna Quick and let me know if it's ok now? I'm new at this and it took me a while to figure out how to include references.
Thanks!
-- LovesFilmandTV ( talk) 19:29, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
I Jeth, sorry for pocking my nose, but I was wandering around and don't know how I hit on your userpage, and I read again and I saw this My name is Jethro. It was a nickname given to me by some friends of mine who liked. -- I am racking my brains, is Jethro your name or your nickname? Sorry, you don't have to answer this... I am being too curious. Miss Bono [hello, hello!] 19:45, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I think I could have a go at being a Teahouse maître d' for a few dates in the near future. What exactly does it involve? Cheers, -- LukeSurl t c 00:35, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
Please be patient as I have just spent almost 3 months being homeless thanks to the city of Los Angeles having decided that the apartment I WAS living in didn't exist (at least on paper) even though every other apartment in the building did... so I'm a bit burnt out. I'll get it straightened out the best I can as soon as possible, but it's not going to be easy for me. By the way, I like the way you have set up a link to leave you a message. Perhaps some day I can do something like it. Right now, my computer is over-heating, and my back is killing me from being in an awkward location in order to get online... so all in time. DonaldKronos ( talk) 00:54, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
Hey hello! Regarding the Gemini article, I got some information about the story of the hooligans on whom the film is based. I intend to add a brief background about them and how the director was inspired by it, each about a paragraph. I am in a dilemma. I don't know under what section heading should I add them so that it doesn't violate Manual of Style and where to put it. Can you suggest me regarding the same? Thanks in advance. -- Sriram speak up 16:25, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi, JethroBT, thanks for looking over the DYK nomination for IQ classification and making your helpful suggestion there. I would be glad to go with your idea about the hook. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 19:14, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
When closing a discussion at WP:NFCR, please always substitute {{ archive top}}. If it isn't substituted, then the archive bot will mess up the wikicode when the discussion is archived. -- Stefan2 ( talk) 20:21, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Hey mate! I have opened peer review for Gemini (2002 Tamil film) in an attempt to elevate it to FA class. So, can I request you to leave your comments and suggestions here. Thanks. -- Sriram speak up 16:58, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi there, I have reviewed the requirements that wiki sets forth to determine whether a band submission has the appropriate notoriety for creating a wiki page, and I honestly think I can make a strong argument that it indeed does. Can you please take a peek at the talk page for the submission? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Azeltroth ( talk • contribs) 06:17, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
First, thanks for taking the time to close the discussion. Those are hard things to do. I want to point out that your point #2 on the "pro" side was "There are some meaningful chemical differences in RoundUp that differentiate it from glyphosate, or". That is true, but it misses the point. Glyphosate is the active ingredient; Roundup is a brand for a line of formulations (glyphosate + other stuff). Here is the problem - there are scads (say 50) commercial formulations of glyphosate, of which there are maybe 5 different ones branded "Roundup". ("Roundup" is not one thing, but a product line, each of which has " meaningful chemical differences" from one another.) And of the say 44 others, there are ones exactly the same as the Roundup-branded ones. Roundup is the most famous for sure, and the anti-GMO people focus on Roundup since it made by Monsanto and was a key in their GMO strategy. But for about a decade already, since glyphosate went off patent ~2000, Roundup has not been unique compared to all the other formulations. So we are going to end up with duplicative material in the glyphosate article, where we cover formulations, and in the Roundup article. Sorry to ask, but do you get that? Thanks. And thanks again, I know it is a lot of work to close. Jytdog ( talk) 22:56, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
Having a separate article on a specific brand of glyphosate could be seen as...
Round-up is just a brand name stuck on glyphosate.
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article
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Hi! Could you review the article that I wrote for Value Pack 1? It has been reviewed and the sources that I were provided were deemed unreliable by Sulfurboy. Thank you. Malcolmrevere ( talk) 19:30, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
I thank you for closing that long, drawn out, and somewhat idiotic discussion. I had just checked back to see of an further discussion since my post on Sept. 29 to find that there had been an unnecessary two-day argument over me putting "Option # - per AA, BB, CC, and DD." I couldn't believe that. United States Man ( talk) 04:01, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
the current situation seems fine. There is no official meaning of a "superstorm"..., which is an argument that had already come up very, very early in the discussion from you yourself. I suppose there is an argument for leaving the discussion open longer, but with 12 days of discussion and the present level of participation, I do not think that argument is particularly compelling. You are, of course, welcome to request re-opening the RfC through the proper channels. I, JethroBT drop me a line 05:26, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
Thank you as well for closing the debate, closing heated debates is not an easy thing to do. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 04:58, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
Just to jump in here, and I really don't care one way or another whether debate stays open, but as this may be relevant, I feel that I should disclose it (as it appears I've indirectly led to this spat): in order to gather more input on the discussion, I notified the relevant meteorological Wikiprojects and top editors to the page (who had not yet commented, and I left out one who explicitly noted that he has retired from Wikipedia and is working only on Wikidata now). One of the "two new editors" was someone who I had notified (and is part of the projects). I was unaware that Knowledgekid had asked for a formal RFC closure; had I been aware of this, I would not have posted the notifications; however, since all of that is in the past, I think it is best to disclose this and let you all discuss amongst yourselves whether reopening the RFC is appropriate. Again, I have no dog in the race, and I don't care either way. Inks.LWC ( talk) 05:42, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
To toss in my two cents.... The result was close to my second choice, and I can live with it. Still, though I can allow that it was done in good faith, I don't at all like the way this closure was handled. I am not a Meteorology Wikiproject member, but I contributed some to this article (mostly editing, cleanup, etc.), including a fair amount to the present discussion. At the very least, I, as well as all others who "!voted", should have been notified that this RfC had been submitted. Also, United States Man, just because you disagree with some of the participants in the discussion does not justify calling it "idiotic". And it is not at all true that Kafziel was the only one in favor of Option F. There were at least two others besides myself. The way this was abruptly ended without most of us being told about what was going on does not sit well with me. It smacks of a secret "back-room deal". That's not the way we are supposed to do things on Wikipedia. As a result, there has been considerable confusion (e.g., Inks.LWC acting in his own way since he had no idea of this RfC either). And it looks like it has triggered an edit war on the talk page, to boot. -- Alan W ( talk) 06:33, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Sorry folks, I've had a busy weekend, so let me now respond and comment on some of what's been discussed above. Given the current state of the discussion, I still stand by my close, but there are two points that give me some pause. 1) Knowledgekid87 put up a notice on WP:ANRFC without informing the rest of the participants in the discussion. While this is not explicitly required, it is a general courtesy so that others are aware and can agree/disagree with a need to close. Clearly, some felt like the close was somewhat abrupt here. 2) Inks.LWC contacted a number of individuals and Wikiprojects to weight in on the discussion, which conceivably could have shifted consensus, which I was only aware of after my close. Few of those people had a chance to weigh in. None of the options on the table are in conflict with policy or editing guidelines. Given these two points, I think it may be best to reopen the RfC, and will be doing so shortly. I'm sorry if some people want this to be over, but given the circumstances, that doesn't really seem very fair. I will recontact the individuals notified by Inks, and let them know they can still participate in the discussion. Please do not post again at WP:ANRFC without leaving a note at the discussion itself AND please wait until the discussion has clearly died down. If folks would like, someone else can close the discussion this time around; it doesn't matter much to me either way. I, JethroBT drop me a line 17:11, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
I think you mean to be commenting on MilesMoney's edit adding "untrained" prior to the protection, but the wording make it seem like you are opposing the edit request from Yworo. Yworo is asking for implementation of the RFC you just closed as consensus, so it's kind of confusing. -- RL0919 ( talk) 18:42, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
As you previously participated in related discussions you are invited to comment at the discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/RfC for AfC reviewer permission criteria. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 03:11, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
I had a tough night, couldn't sleep, so about 11pm I turned on the TV and guess what? They were broadcasting a Star Trek movie. I thought about you. It wasn't the beginning of the movie, so I cannot tell which movie was. I don't know if it was The Voyage Home or The Search for Spock. Two of the characters were having disagreements because of Mr. Spock staying at The Enterprise... or something.
Done.
JohnCD (
talk) 21:45, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
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Now that it's been 10 days without any further discussion, would you like to re-close the discussion? I think it's clear it has run its course. Inks.LWC ( talk) 19:21, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for catching that mistype of mine - pretty embarrassing!-- Jimbo Wales ( talk) 16:54, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
I will be late, on my way. - Prabodh — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.249.85.18 ( talk) 15:50, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
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![]() | On 28 October 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article William Foley (artist), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that as a World War II rifleman, William Foley protected his sketches during wartime by storing them in a cardboard tube that originally held a mortar shell? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/William Foley (artist). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project ( nominate) 00:03, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
![]() | On 28 October 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Oedo Sukeroku Taiko, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that prior to forming Oedo Sukeroku Taiko, founder Seidō Kobayashi and other members performed in Bon Festival drumming competitions to impress young women? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project ( nominate) 16:04, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
![]() | On 28 October 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Seidō Kobayashi, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that prior to forming Oedo Sukeroku Taiko, founder Seidō Kobayashi and other members performed in Bon Festival drumming competitions to impress young women? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project ( nominate) 16:04, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
![]() | On 31 October 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kiki (Kiki's Delivery Service), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Hayao Miyazaki has compared Kiki's plight of becoming a full-fledged witch to the challenges of an aspiring cartoonist moving to Tokyo? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kiki (Kiki's Delivery Service). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project ( nominate) 00:03, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for noting the Petronilla RfC close at WP:CLOSE. I should have thought of that but it's my first close and I'm still learning the procedure. Thanks again for your help! — Keithbob • Talk • 14:02, 1 November 2013 (UTC) |
Hi there. I have checked out the ref that you put in the hook, which refers to pages 277 through 279 in Frank. However, although those pages discuss the subject, they do not support that particular fact. However, further digging in the same book shows that on page 415 the claim is supported. I notice that references 8 and 9 in the article are essentially the same, has there been a slight mixup with the references perhaps? I'm happy to say that it qualifies for DYK but we should fix this up before putting it forward. Lankiveil ( speak to me) 06:33, 3 November 2013 (UTC).
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I have added a citation to this section, also it is common practice to include celebrities support of football clubs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.243.208.150 ( talk) 16:11, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the tweak. Haven't nominated a photograph for a featured picture before! kencf0618 ( talk) 03:23, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Hello JethroBot, saw your post over at WP:RETENTION, so I investigated you a little. I have not seen the movie (your friends are correct), but I read the book into tatters. I seem to recall *very* clearly one of the protagonists, a powerful politician of some sort, whose father was unable to walk, ended up proving their humanity by eating an apple, and then punching a heckler in the jaw.
Don't worry.
Your secret is safe with me.
As befits someone bound by the three laws (or four if you like the sequels), your WP:IMAGINE is very helpful to us humans. I've been trying to put together something like that on my own, but will be happily directing people to your essay from now on. Thanks for improving wikipedia, see you around. 74.192.84.101 ( talk) 00:08, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Jethro, I very much appreciated your kind words, thanks.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 00:59, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
“ | The word is associated with sports, high merriment, [1] and amusement. Although its etymology is uncertain, it may be derived from fonne (fool) and fonnen (the one fooling the other). [2] Its meaning in 1727 was "cheat, trick, hoax", a meaning still retained in the phrase "to make fun of". [3] | ” |
Hello I JethrobBT! I offer up this tidbit I helped reference and write as part of TAFI some time ago in a reply to your statement that fun is not the first thing you think of when thinking of Wikipedia. From the above I can see why you would feel that way. Many of our vandals and disruptive editors are having fun with us at the project's expense an should be seen through more than just a critical eye. However (isn't there almost always one of those) what is fun to one may not b to the other. I started out on Wikipedia because I enjoyed writing. I derived pleasure from it and the experience and constant re-enforcement led to longer intervals of...writing. On Wikipedia, it is difficult to write much if you don't research and I have always "enjoyed" that aspect of work. With more leisure time on my hands, of course that simply gave me more time to learn which I really can't help but admit I really enjoy. Learning to me is a discovery and that sparks an emotional response, enjoyment. I know what you meant and am not trying to get at you. I just remembered this snippet from our article when I read your Editor Retention comments and thought, well...if the fun was to ever really go out of volunteering here (and I try many different ways to keep this enjoyable) then I would probably contemplate semi retirement. I look at how we are regarded as editors by some who would use are material unattributed (and as Jimbo said it isn't that big a deal) and then look at those who regard us as a collective of writers who should at the very least be attributed. What I see is one group that makes use of our material and another that notices to begin with that the material is ours. If that gives us satisfaction then our fun has at least achieved recognition and that at least means we're being read. I think we want to be read and that if you can find some joy in the work, it's a net plus. ;-)
By the way, never heard anything from the artist of those military paintings.-- Mark Miller ( talk) 21:39, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
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... for fixing my typo on the RfA. Regards, Newyorkbrad ( talk) 17:21, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Hello Sir ,
I am just not much familiar to Wiki in editing and posting information but i regularly vist your page for information and i would now like to add DPS Azaad Nagar as a Part of Wikipedia's info page. We are an Education Based Society in Kanpur India and believe in Education as right in the society. I would like to dispaly information for my school in wiki so plz kindly help me publishing the same. I am concerned about "Speedy Deletion Process". I abide by your rules for not posting any promotional content. I see my page only provides information of school for education purpose. i want my page to be displayed as /info/en/?search=Delhi_Public_School,_R._K._Puram#History
Kindly help me regarading the same
Alok Singh (aks2103@gmail.com) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aks2103 ( talk • contribs) 07:38, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
Google search is your friend. For redirects recently created, ie the original name is recently created then we are pretty safe to delete. But for old names, eg a year old there is a good chance that the file or page will have been referenced off Wikipedia by someone else. We may think that mirrors or others copying images are not important. But we break their legal requirement to give attribution by a link if we take away their target. Graeme Bartlett ( talk) 20:09, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks sir for your reply and guidence and reply .. ok once i am done with the article can that be approved you ? i am afraid if i post and its caught under speedy deletion criteria under a new section , so is that possible before posting we can get it approved by you ? Awating your positive reply !
Alok (aks2103@gmail.com) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aks2103 ( talk • contribs) 04:46, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
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![]() | On 11 September 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Osuwa Daiko, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Osuwa Daiko was one of the first groups to popularize taiko music through its performance at the 1964 Summer Olympics in Tokyo? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Osuwa Daiko. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project ( nominate) 00:03, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
I'm absolutely certain you know it, your fingers just didn't do what your brain told them, but the Good Doctor spelt his name with one s and two as. I'd've corrected it, but it's on your user page, and i don't believe that's for me to edit. Cheers, Lindsay Hello 18:28, 11 September 2013 (UTC) PS: I'm kinda sorry to have noted the name-change; i liked your previous one.
![]() | On 14 September 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Eitetsu Hayashi, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Eitetsu Hayashi (pictured), along with other group members of Ondekoza, repeatedly ran the Boston Marathon just prior to taiko performances? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Eitetsu Hayashi. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project ( nominate) 00:02, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
hello sir jethro. seeing as ive been able to see a part of your lifes activities I hope you don't mind me sharing a bit of mine with you. im 50 ,live in northern alberta Canada,an avid science seeker from a young age . my grade three teacher instill me with some very intriguing devices ,only one,a simple way to make browns gas, have I seen to date. the ancient knowledge quite possably stumbled apon by gentlemen like mr tesla and ed may very well be hiden in a Bosnian pyramid waiting to be rediscovered. coral castle in florida where ed cut and levitated huge coral blocks ,used this technology, and the simplest bare bones of this device still exists there to day, . my small group ,are all ready generating hundreds apon hundred of volts ,and with the device having a larger capacitance into the millions. from there understanding the devices for cutting the stone, like whats left from the past, to levitating them into place, are all ready a reality . you can also make a self levitating device for space exploration, or simply lifting materials to outer orbit. but really no need as materials are made from the gasses and all the elements can be created threw the device explained under the heading/plasma interaction with hydrogen oxygen nitrogen and carbon to create the fundamental elements. I understand the difficulties Wikipedia must have to keep everything together,lol and greatly appreciate the opportunity to share and express my views and findings.im sure in the end we are all searching for the same truths and all hope for the same outcome, a peacefull planet. to be honest , ive only had this computer for a year and am still trying to figure it out. lol, an update to /electron spin reversal in a d.c. circuit terminating into ie. space. had the circuit run for 20 days after initiation and a 10 day half life before stopping. mr. Tesla drove around in a car with an antenna as part of his circuit terminating into space. I use ie. as an example as there are more than one way to terminate the circuit. most people that I interact with understand the implication of these ancient devices. some are happy witheach level of technology, they have achieved , from levitation to transmutation to production of materials,,there still exists more and probably always will. please note that the page under absorption by carbon was kept short and simple. carbon simply absorbs electro magnetic energy , it is why there is a loss of voltage at the brush, and why it absorbs radio frequency when it is interacted with a secondary plasma field created and using the expanded energy from the initial plasma field. words terms and phrases lol hope to talk again ron Ronald sykes ( talk) 05:09, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
I understand the difficulties Wikipedia must have to keep everything together,lol and greatly appreciate the opportunity to share and express my views and findings.
its simply me not being able to interact properly with Wikipedia due to my lack of knowledge of the computer. it was given to me last Christmas by a friend ,otherwise I still probably would never have started learning how to use it. Ronald sykes ( talk) 05:59, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi I JethroBT! I've just come across one of your edits (or that you have been patrolling new pages), and noticed that you might appreciate some help with references.
I case you're not aware, you might consider using this tool – it makes your life a whole heap easier, by filling in complete citation templates for your links. All you do is install the script:
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I thought you should be aware of this. Cheers, Stalwart 111 07:50, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
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Not wanting to dredge up the whole thing again, and agreeing that we can disagree, I want to ask you why the obvious self-promotion of this guy and his use of Wikipedia for that purpose seemed to have so little traction for you (see WP:NOTPROMOTION). Between us, I think you can see that this guy is bullshit artist, as did others in the discussion. If he's successful at getting middlebrow executives to part with their money for his brand of training... well, he's making a comfortable living. But what concerns me is the exploitation of Wikipedia and your comments never really addressed that. You dwelt on notability... we don't have to get into that because we already did... but what do you think about balancing things with regard to self-promotion? Non promotion is a real Wikipedia concern. Notability is one too. I didn't see any balance in your comments, just a laser-like focus on notability.
I'd like to make an observation without wanting to seem like an attack on you, so not being able to find the words, let me just be direct... You said some things about PR that were showed little practical knowledge and seemed to be naive about how marketing professionals operate nowadays. You doubted somewhat incredulously that mainstream magazines could be used as PR vehicles. The reality is that they can be. I work with some corporate marketing guys and know first hand how they operate and the level of deception involved nowadays. One particular acquaintance of mine (not exactly a friend) quit because he couldn't stomach the deception anymore... and it was his job specifically to place product/services into news stories of mainstream magazines and newspapers. Seriously, that was his job. Guys like him would say that a lapses in journalism ethics wasn't their problem, it was the journalists' problem. In some instances the marketers write the "news" story copy for the journalists to use simply use, as is, *unattributed*... and they give themselves high fives whenever they pull it off. This happens very easily as one might imagine in small, local newspapers and in industry newsletters/journals. But big guys like WSJ, Forbes, etc are constantly targeted. And it works (!!!) there too not because of lack of editorial control but because of different needs of the mega-media organizations, namely, they have a ravenous need for web content. WSJ and Forbes, for example have extensive blogs, so one strategy for the marketers is to target the journalist blog to pick up your item, then wait and push it to the news editors, being able to point out it was already part of WSJ or Forbes etc website content. The editors know this is poor journalism (a necessary evil, lazy, bad, unethical... the rationalizations vary) but they have a content beast to feed so they do it. You're not going to find this taught in business schools but that's common practice. So it's wrong to think something is notable just because it appears in a newpaper / magazine.... mostly it is, but a minority of things are exploitations of the system.
This is the way the neuroleadership guy did it. Several of his initial targets were news organization blogs, then other news organizations would cite each other. What I was trying to do when showing how many articles there were in the academic literature and then tracing it back to the neuroleadership guy's website... that wasn't "original research" as you characterized it, rather it was objectively showing how he got his marketing stuff into the secondary sources of seeming repute... the ones that you were doggedly focused on. He got is company and services recognized, but he did not create a new field. BTW, looking at your photo, I've got about about 20 years more on you with a lot of experience in a variety of fields. Also, I see that you do really good work. So please take my "experienced" advice to be less black & white about things like the notability issue and others... more nuance will benefit Wikipedia as well as yourself. The reason I'm following up is not because I lack better things to do but precisely because you obviously do good work and are dedicated... and I'd like to influence that dedication. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lapabc ( talk • contribs) 19:31, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
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[1] What does this mean? Your closure doesn't make any sense. As I said in the discussion "You can't word things in a way that make it sound like he might be racist, trying to lead people to that assumption, since that violates BLP." Someone calls the police to report crimes in the area, and by chance these people just happen to be of a different race. Why would you mention that if it has no possible relevance at all? He had black friends, he mentored black youths, his black neighbor spoke well of him. This violates BLP to try to give undue weight to ridiculously bias media sources. There is no possible way to word it without it making him sound racists. Dream Focus 21:56, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
When you crossed out the old reviewer, I think you must have done something wrong, because it's messing up Wikipedia:Good article nominations/Topic lists/Media and drama. Could you fix this, please? Taylor Trescott - my talk + my edits 11:02, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
Is there some way to get a contents list on the talk page? -- Sriram speak up 08:01, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks you for completing the review in such a short time. By the way, I have replied to some comments in the discussion section. Can you take a look and let me know what you think? -- Sriram speak up 08:15, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi!
Can you please have a look at Anna Quick and let me know if it's ok now? I'm new at this and it took me a while to figure out how to include references.
Thanks!
-- LovesFilmandTV ( talk) 19:29, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
I Jeth, sorry for pocking my nose, but I was wandering around and don't know how I hit on your userpage, and I read again and I saw this My name is Jethro. It was a nickname given to me by some friends of mine who liked. -- I am racking my brains, is Jethro your name or your nickname? Sorry, you don't have to answer this... I am being too curious. Miss Bono [hello, hello!] 19:45, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I think I could have a go at being a Teahouse maître d' for a few dates in the near future. What exactly does it involve? Cheers, -- LukeSurl t c 00:35, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
Please be patient as I have just spent almost 3 months being homeless thanks to the city of Los Angeles having decided that the apartment I WAS living in didn't exist (at least on paper) even though every other apartment in the building did... so I'm a bit burnt out. I'll get it straightened out the best I can as soon as possible, but it's not going to be easy for me. By the way, I like the way you have set up a link to leave you a message. Perhaps some day I can do something like it. Right now, my computer is over-heating, and my back is killing me from being in an awkward location in order to get online... so all in time. DonaldKronos ( talk) 00:54, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
Hey hello! Regarding the Gemini article, I got some information about the story of the hooligans on whom the film is based. I intend to add a brief background about them and how the director was inspired by it, each about a paragraph. I am in a dilemma. I don't know under what section heading should I add them so that it doesn't violate Manual of Style and where to put it. Can you suggest me regarding the same? Thanks in advance. -- Sriram speak up 16:25, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi, JethroBT, thanks for looking over the DYK nomination for IQ classification and making your helpful suggestion there. I would be glad to go with your idea about the hook. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 19:14, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
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Hey mate! I have opened peer review for Gemini (2002 Tamil film) in an attempt to elevate it to FA class. So, can I request you to leave your comments and suggestions here. Thanks. -- Sriram speak up 16:58, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi there, I have reviewed the requirements that wiki sets forth to determine whether a band submission has the appropriate notoriety for creating a wiki page, and I honestly think I can make a strong argument that it indeed does. Can you please take a peek at the talk page for the submission? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Azeltroth ( talk • contribs) 06:17, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
First, thanks for taking the time to close the discussion. Those are hard things to do. I want to point out that your point #2 on the "pro" side was "There are some meaningful chemical differences in RoundUp that differentiate it from glyphosate, or". That is true, but it misses the point. Glyphosate is the active ingredient; Roundup is a brand for a line of formulations (glyphosate + other stuff). Here is the problem - there are scads (say 50) commercial formulations of glyphosate, of which there are maybe 5 different ones branded "Roundup". ("Roundup" is not one thing, but a product line, each of which has " meaningful chemical differences" from one another.) And of the say 44 others, there are ones exactly the same as the Roundup-branded ones. Roundup is the most famous for sure, and the anti-GMO people focus on Roundup since it made by Monsanto and was a key in their GMO strategy. But for about a decade already, since glyphosate went off patent ~2000, Roundup has not been unique compared to all the other formulations. So we are going to end up with duplicative material in the glyphosate article, where we cover formulations, and in the Roundup article. Sorry to ask, but do you get that? Thanks. And thanks again, I know it is a lot of work to close. Jytdog ( talk) 22:56, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
Having a separate article on a specific brand of glyphosate could be seen as...
Round-up is just a brand name stuck on glyphosate.
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Hi! Could you review the article that I wrote for Value Pack 1? It has been reviewed and the sources that I were provided were deemed unreliable by Sulfurboy. Thank you. Malcolmrevere ( talk) 19:30, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
I thank you for closing that long, drawn out, and somewhat idiotic discussion. I had just checked back to see of an further discussion since my post on Sept. 29 to find that there had been an unnecessary two-day argument over me putting "Option # - per AA, BB, CC, and DD." I couldn't believe that. United States Man ( talk) 04:01, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
the current situation seems fine. There is no official meaning of a "superstorm"..., which is an argument that had already come up very, very early in the discussion from you yourself. I suppose there is an argument for leaving the discussion open longer, but with 12 days of discussion and the present level of participation, I do not think that argument is particularly compelling. You are, of course, welcome to request re-opening the RfC through the proper channels. I, JethroBT drop me a line 05:26, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
Thank you as well for closing the debate, closing heated debates is not an easy thing to do. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 04:58, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
Just to jump in here, and I really don't care one way or another whether debate stays open, but as this may be relevant, I feel that I should disclose it (as it appears I've indirectly led to this spat): in order to gather more input on the discussion, I notified the relevant meteorological Wikiprojects and top editors to the page (who had not yet commented, and I left out one who explicitly noted that he has retired from Wikipedia and is working only on Wikidata now). One of the "two new editors" was someone who I had notified (and is part of the projects). I was unaware that Knowledgekid had asked for a formal RFC closure; had I been aware of this, I would not have posted the notifications; however, since all of that is in the past, I think it is best to disclose this and let you all discuss amongst yourselves whether reopening the RFC is appropriate. Again, I have no dog in the race, and I don't care either way. Inks.LWC ( talk) 05:42, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
To toss in my two cents.... The result was close to my second choice, and I can live with it. Still, though I can allow that it was done in good faith, I don't at all like the way this closure was handled. I am not a Meteorology Wikiproject member, but I contributed some to this article (mostly editing, cleanup, etc.), including a fair amount to the present discussion. At the very least, I, as well as all others who "!voted", should have been notified that this RfC had been submitted. Also, United States Man, just because you disagree with some of the participants in the discussion does not justify calling it "idiotic". And it is not at all true that Kafziel was the only one in favor of Option F. There were at least two others besides myself. The way this was abruptly ended without most of us being told about what was going on does not sit well with me. It smacks of a secret "back-room deal". That's not the way we are supposed to do things on Wikipedia. As a result, there has been considerable confusion (e.g., Inks.LWC acting in his own way since he had no idea of this RfC either). And it looks like it has triggered an edit war on the talk page, to boot. -- Alan W ( talk) 06:33, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Sorry folks, I've had a busy weekend, so let me now respond and comment on some of what's been discussed above. Given the current state of the discussion, I still stand by my close, but there are two points that give me some pause. 1) Knowledgekid87 put up a notice on WP:ANRFC without informing the rest of the participants in the discussion. While this is not explicitly required, it is a general courtesy so that others are aware and can agree/disagree with a need to close. Clearly, some felt like the close was somewhat abrupt here. 2) Inks.LWC contacted a number of individuals and Wikiprojects to weight in on the discussion, which conceivably could have shifted consensus, which I was only aware of after my close. Few of those people had a chance to weigh in. None of the options on the table are in conflict with policy or editing guidelines. Given these two points, I think it may be best to reopen the RfC, and will be doing so shortly. I'm sorry if some people want this to be over, but given the circumstances, that doesn't really seem very fair. I will recontact the individuals notified by Inks, and let them know they can still participate in the discussion. Please do not post again at WP:ANRFC without leaving a note at the discussion itself AND please wait until the discussion has clearly died down. If folks would like, someone else can close the discussion this time around; it doesn't matter much to me either way. I, JethroBT drop me a line 17:11, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
I think you mean to be commenting on MilesMoney's edit adding "untrained" prior to the protection, but the wording make it seem like you are opposing the edit request from Yworo. Yworo is asking for implementation of the RFC you just closed as consensus, so it's kind of confusing. -- RL0919 ( talk) 18:42, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
As you previously participated in related discussions you are invited to comment at the discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/RfC for AfC reviewer permission criteria. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 03:11, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
I had a tough night, couldn't sleep, so about 11pm I turned on the TV and guess what? They were broadcasting a Star Trek movie. I thought about you. It wasn't the beginning of the movie, so I cannot tell which movie was. I don't know if it was The Voyage Home or The Search for Spock. Two of the characters were having disagreements because of Mr. Spock staying at The Enterprise... or something.
Done.
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XAЯAbИAM 03:09, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
Now that it's been 10 days without any further discussion, would you like to re-close the discussion? I think it's clear it has run its course. Inks.LWC ( talk) 19:21, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for catching that mistype of mine - pretty embarrassing!-- Jimbo Wales ( talk) 16:54, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
I will be late, on my way. - Prabodh — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.249.85.18 ( talk) 15:50, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for all your hard work helping with the meetup! The Library staff enjoyed hosting the Wikipedians.
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talk) 14:24, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
Volume 1, Issue 1, October 2013
by The Interior ( talk · contribs), Ocaasi ( talk · contribs)
Greetings Wikipedia Library members! Welcome to the inaugural edition of Books and Bytes, TWL’s monthly newsletter. We're sending you the first edition of this opt-in newsletter, because you signed up, or applied for a free research account: HighBeam, Credo, Questia, JSTOR, or Cochrane. To receive future updates of Books and Bytes, please add your name to the subscriber's list. There's lots of news this month for the Wikipedia Library, including new accounts, upcoming events, and new ways to get involved...
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Wikipedia Loves Libraries: Off to a roaring start this fall in the United States: 29 events are planned or have been hosted.
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New ideas: OCLC innovations in the works; VisualEditor Reference Dialog Workshop; a photo contest idea emerges
News from the library world: Wikipedian joins the National Archives full time; the Getty Museum releases 4,500 images; CERN goes CC-BY
Announcing WikiProject Open: WikiProject Open kicked off in October, with several brainstorming and co-working sessions
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The Interior 20:12, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
![]() | On 28 October 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article William Foley (artist), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that as a World War II rifleman, William Foley protected his sketches during wartime by storing them in a cardboard tube that originally held a mortar shell? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/William Foley (artist). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project ( nominate) 00:03, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
![]() | On 28 October 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Oedo Sukeroku Taiko, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that prior to forming Oedo Sukeroku Taiko, founder Seidō Kobayashi and other members performed in Bon Festival drumming competitions to impress young women? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project ( nominate) 16:04, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
![]() | On 28 October 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Seidō Kobayashi, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that prior to forming Oedo Sukeroku Taiko, founder Seidō Kobayashi and other members performed in Bon Festival drumming competitions to impress young women? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project ( nominate) 16:04, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
![]() | On 31 October 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kiki (Kiki's Delivery Service), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Hayao Miyazaki has compared Kiki's plight of becoming a full-fledged witch to the challenges of an aspiring cartoonist moving to Tokyo? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kiki (Kiki's Delivery Service). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project ( nominate) 00:03, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for noting the Petronilla RfC close at WP:CLOSE. I should have thought of that but it's my first close and I'm still learning the procedure. Thanks again for your help! — Keithbob • Talk • 14:02, 1 November 2013 (UTC) |
Hi there. I have checked out the ref that you put in the hook, which refers to pages 277 through 279 in Frank. However, although those pages discuss the subject, they do not support that particular fact. However, further digging in the same book shows that on page 415 the claim is supported. I notice that references 8 and 9 in the article are essentially the same, has there been a slight mixup with the references perhaps? I'm happy to say that it qualifies for DYK but we should fix this up before putting it forward. Lankiveil ( speak to me) 06:33, 3 November 2013 (UTC).
Hi, if you haven't already, you should consider signing up for WikiCup 2014. Cheers, -- Sp33dyphil © hat ontributions 01:50, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
I have added a citation to this section, also it is common practice to include celebrities support of football clubs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.243.208.150 ( talk) 16:11, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the tweak. Haven't nominated a photograph for a featured picture before! kencf0618 ( talk) 03:23, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Hello JethroBot, saw your post over at WP:RETENTION, so I investigated you a little. I have not seen the movie (your friends are correct), but I read the book into tatters. I seem to recall *very* clearly one of the protagonists, a powerful politician of some sort, whose father was unable to walk, ended up proving their humanity by eating an apple, and then punching a heckler in the jaw.
Don't worry.
Your secret is safe with me.
As befits someone bound by the three laws (or four if you like the sequels), your WP:IMAGINE is very helpful to us humans. I've been trying to put together something like that on my own, but will be happily directing people to your essay from now on. Thanks for improving wikipedia, see you around. 74.192.84.101 ( talk) 00:08, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Jethro, I very much appreciated your kind words, thanks.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 00:59, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
“ | The word is associated with sports, high merriment, [1] and amusement. Although its etymology is uncertain, it may be derived from fonne (fool) and fonnen (the one fooling the other). [2] Its meaning in 1727 was "cheat, trick, hoax", a meaning still retained in the phrase "to make fun of". [3] | ” |
Hello I JethrobBT! I offer up this tidbit I helped reference and write as part of TAFI some time ago in a reply to your statement that fun is not the first thing you think of when thinking of Wikipedia. From the above I can see why you would feel that way. Many of our vandals and disruptive editors are having fun with us at the project's expense an should be seen through more than just a critical eye. However (isn't there almost always one of those) what is fun to one may not b to the other. I started out on Wikipedia because I enjoyed writing. I derived pleasure from it and the experience and constant re-enforcement led to longer intervals of...writing. On Wikipedia, it is difficult to write much if you don't research and I have always "enjoyed" that aspect of work. With more leisure time on my hands, of course that simply gave me more time to learn which I really can't help but admit I really enjoy. Learning to me is a discovery and that sparks an emotional response, enjoyment. I know what you meant and am not trying to get at you. I just remembered this snippet from our article when I read your Editor Retention comments and thought, well...if the fun was to ever really go out of volunteering here (and I try many different ways to keep this enjoyable) then I would probably contemplate semi retirement. I look at how we are regarded as editors by some who would use are material unattributed (and as Jimbo said it isn't that big a deal) and then look at those who regard us as a collective of writers who should at the very least be attributed. What I see is one group that makes use of our material and another that notices to begin with that the material is ours. If that gives us satisfaction then our fun has at least achieved recognition and that at least means we're being read. I think we want to be read and that if you can find some joy in the work, it's a net plus. ;-)
By the way, never heard anything from the artist of those military paintings.-- Mark Miller ( talk) 21:39, 6 November 2013 (UTC)