Please note: To preserve context, my replies (if any) will be posted here, not on your Talk page, so add this page to your watch. Thanks. HistoryBuffEr
Hi HistoryBuffEr, I feel it is my duty to let you know that we have a 3 Revert Rule here at Wikipedia. Reverting an article more than 3 times in 24 hours is generally considered taboo, and extremely obessive reverting can result in a 24-hour block.
Best, Node 06:58, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Please take a moment to read the NPOV policy and NPOV tutorial in their entirety, whether you have read them before or not. Note the admonition that "NPOV is absolute and non-negotiable." This means that people who make remarks like "NPOV schmPOV" or "Resistance is futile" in regard to NPOV disputes should work on articles that are at less risk of dispute. You should read the section about "writing for the enemy" a few times as it applies specifically to difficulties you have had.
From your comments on the VfD page, it's clear that you have not learned the techniques WP uses to resolve these disputes. We do not write up our POVs in full and then fight over which complete version is "right." Work a couple sentences at a time, so there is a chance for people to raise objections. You must consider their objections, in exchange for their consideration of yours. Think about ways to reword your changes that avoid their objections while making your point. If possible, step back from general conclusions to the underlying details. Do not change wording that is factually accurate. A statement that someone takes a particular position on a disputed question is a fact; A statement that the position is "right" is POV.
If you have any questions or comments about your understanding of NPOV dispute resolution, or about your experiences trying to modify Israeli-Palestinian conflict, you can leave them on my talk page. Please don't post a diatribe there trying to convince me that "Occupation of Palestine" is the right term. I am not on any "side" and you will only waste your time Gazpacho 16:11, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)
HistoryBuffEr, I appreciate your desire to improve Wikipedia's content, but I think the way you are going about it is counter-productive. Rather that replacing existing articles with your own significantly different versions, I strongly recommend bringing edits one at a time to Talk: pages for discussion. The is especially true for highly contentious articles, and is standard Wikipedia practice. Also, I very strongly recommend that your restrict your comments on Talk: pages to discussions of article content, rather than comments about the people making the edits. This is also standard Wikipedia practice. Thanks. Jayjg 00:25, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Removing comments from your user talk page because you disagree with what was said is a violation of Wikipedia etiquette. See also Wikipedia:Avoiding common mistakes. Wikipedia is a collaborative project and if you choose not to approach it collaboratively, much of your effort will be wasted. Have you noticed that my addition of the phrase "occupation of Palestine" to the intro of Israeli-Palestinian conflict has gone unchallenged in subsequent edits? Maybe, just maybe, my advice is worth paying attention to. Gazpacho 18:56, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
You have removed comments from your talk page (i.e. this page) because they are critical, and you have announced that you do so willingly. This is a violation of Wikipedia etiquette. It is easy enough for you to find out what is and is not part of that etiquette, and all users are well-advised to do so. Gazpacho 08:16, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
We don't have to agree on anything but I'd like you to know that I find your attitude towards other users and your edits in regards to Israel offensive and harmful to WP. This is an encyclopedia, not a hate forum. ← Humus sapiens← Talk 09:21, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
HistoryBuffEr, I'm going to request again that instead of replacing large portions of text with entirely different texts, you please bring suggested changes here first for discussion. This has been perhaps the single most difficult problem with your edits ever since you joined Wikipedia. You know these pages are highly contentious at best, and contentious edits are best worked out on Talk: pages so that edit wars do not develop. I have yet to see you actually propose a change on any page before going ahead and making it, and this is, in my view, a recipe for continued strife. Jayjg 16:23, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
That's four reverts in one day on Arab anti-Semitism, HistoryBuffEr. You know this is a violation of guidelines. Jayjg 05:36, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I doubt if I am qualified to co-sponsor this. Have you tried Alberuni, Gadykozma, Jfdwolff, or Jayjg? Susvolans 13:16, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Hi, so far HistoryBuffer has not contacted me at all and seems to prefer to think of me as "foaming-at-the-mouth". Now what exactly is implied by such a vicious comment? IZAK 04:14, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Please check [ Requests_for_comment/IZAK]. If you agree with the complaint please add your sig to certify the basis for dispute (1 more sig is needed within 24 hours.) Thanks. HistoryBuffEr 02:43, 2004 Oct 6 (UTC)
You might not have had me specifically in mind, but I take the above personally: the shoe fits, so I'm wearing it. I am an admin as such I've tried hard NOT to use my priviliges to impose my viewpoint. Often I fail, and I need to be reminded -- just as a dancer or hockey player needs a coach to point out errors during a performance or game. I can't simultanously 'see myself' and 'do things' -- only the great ones can 'see themselves in action'.
The 'thousand cuts' approach rarely works. Someone finally has to take the bull by the horns and do a full rewrite. Gary D. did this for Prem Rawat (no, that's not part of the Arab-Israeli conflict).
You're a thoughtful chap. I think we can work togther. That is, assuming my estimation that you really want to see ALL points of view expressed rather than the "objective truth" exalted and endorsed. -- Uncle Ed 19:19, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Have a look @ [1]. Apparently were sockpuppet-brothers, or some scheiße. Cheers, Sam [ Spade] 22:41, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Sure, and "you guys" think Anti-Semitism is "normal", right? IZAK 00:01, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
HistoryBuffEr, do not take it upon yourself to remove a valid notice in regard to this RfC. I engaged you on this extensively and you refuse to follow the clear guidleines at the top of the RfC. Ed Poor may well have engaged IZAK but he has not posted the evidence on the RfC, as required. I would caution you that your easy resort to sarcasm and ad hominem attacks does not comport well for someone who would bring RfCs against others. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 19:15, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Looking at the discussion and noticing that eventually several threads collapsed into personal attack rounds, I was trying to "lower the total mass well below critical" by moving the relevant threads to the relevant talk pages. The remaining text still includes the references for easier tracing of the whole discussion, yet remains focused on the VfD. I did it out of assuming the good faith of those who were insulting each other, letting them to cool down and discuss the things together in a slightly more "private" atmosphere (of course, one can watch any talk page, but I believe you understand what I mean). It is for the same reason that I didn't just move it over to the discussion – the threads collapsed didn't really belong together on the same page, they were more of isolated mutual labeling and POV-accusatory off-topic speech of various degrees of intensity. Hopefully I made myself more clear now. As I was trying to cool the things down, I really would like to get the responses on my talk page rather than there in order to keep the discussion farther from the conflict. Hoping for more understanding next time, BACbKA 23:42, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Nice to meet you. Alberuni 02:27, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Heh, these paranoid Zionistas need to make up their mind whether it's the whole world that is after them or it's just one sock-puppet.
Btw, unless all those who certified dispute on your RfC have personally contacted you regarding the dispute and were rebuffed by you, you should remove those who did not from the cert list (or, better yet, first ask Cecropia to do it because she enjoyed removing users from IZAK RfC cert list.) HistoryBuffEr 03:25, 2004 Oct 15 (UTC)
Historybuff... I'm just curious. What do you think of Jewish people in general? Rickyrab 19:20, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Dear HistoryBuffEr,
Please find attached the motion of support I felt necessary on behalf of the current campaign against you! Thank you!
Dear All,
Please refrain from putting tags on people and remain logical, civilized and without passions taking over. Bile and jugulars have no precedence over the white and gray matter :O). Tags are neither nice, nor arguments. Instead of using so much time, energy and bandwidth to wait for people and stick it on their forhead, why don't you rest, smell flowers, walk in public gardens and admire automn in this beautiful northern hemisphere :O) As an experienced editor, medical doctor, victim of
Securitate, libelled/arbitrated/rfc/banned/tagged/smeared colleague, please stop ! -
irismeister 23:26, 2004 Oct 16 (UTC)
Please note that Wikipedia policy is that one user may only revert an article three times in one 24 hour period. Rick K 04:51, Oct 24, 2004 (UTC)
HistoryBuffEr hi. While I would be surprised that a Wikipedia lawyer such as yourself would not know about the three revert rule, still it would seem you don't since in the last 2 hours you have reverted Occupation of Palestine 4 times. This might be a good time to try and negotiate on the talk page. Thanks. Gadykozma 04:20, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I have answered your strange complaint on my own talk page. Now, if you want to see the history of a protected redirect, when you see the little text that says "redirected from Struggle over Palestine" just at the top, hit that link. You will now be able to view the history and edit the page if it's not protected. HTH. Gadykozma 18:24, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I assume you are looking for Talk:Occupation of Palestine or Talk:Struggle over Palestine. As for protection, next time try Wikipedia:Protection log. BTW, I accused you somewhere that you yourself moved Occupation of Palestine to Struggle over Palestine, if this is not true, I apologize. Gadykozma 20:04, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Proteus has deleted discussion of his actions from his Talk. The discussion is reporoduced below to preserve history. (See Proteus Talk for full context)
Proteus: You have reverted and protected Struggle over Palestine with this explanation "(revert to version favoured by those not breaking 3 revert rule (this redirect is now protected))".
However, you actually reverted to the version favored by those who reverted 11 times. "Jayjg" reverted the article 6 times, "IZAK" reverted the article 4 times, and "Gadykozma" reverted the article 1 time. All these 11 reverts were to the version you reverted to, as shown the article history:
Also, I did not break the revert rule. I was editing the article in between and trying to restore the original Talk (which was moved by the redirects).
Curiously, you have also redirected and protected the related article Occupations of Palestine, with similar history.
Could you explain your strange description and your apparently biased actions? HistoryBuffEr 19:16, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Manipulative dweeb versus expert witness. I laughed out loud.-- Alberuni 01:04, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Care to vote? -- Alberuni 02:08, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Good afternoon. Thanks for clarifying on that discussion on the Deletion Policy page. I didn't mean to come across as a humorless stick-in-the-mud. Unfortunately, it's very difficult to tell the difference between sarcasm and an intentional attack in written communications. Subtle humor just doesn't come through well and is frequently misunderstood. Anyway, thanks for clarifying. Rossami 16:29, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Hi HistoryBuffEr, I've requested mediation with you; please see WP:RFM Jayjg 16:24, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
As you have definitively dismissed Mediation, I have requested Arbitration with you. Jayjg 18:36, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)
On October 25th, HistoryBuffEr was asked to provide specific items, that may be addressed by the Wikipedia community, which he believes are factually incorrect. HistoryBuffEr has declined to do so during the intervening two weeks. Remove totallydisputed till specific, addressable items are cited. Lance6Wins 11:21, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Your Nov12:20-30 blanket revert of major portions of this article [2] (marked as a 'minor edit') have overwritten my changes to the illness and death section. Other changes by other contributors have presumably also been overwritten by that and your subsequent reverts. If you want to wage war about the content of the page please avail of the existing Wikipedia dispute resolution mechanisms, including locking the page. Due to your revert, the rest of us are currently wasting our time making changes.
If you are making your changes in the interests of factual accuracy, you will appreciate my attempt to record that Arafat's illness was first reported on Oct 25 and not Oct 28, as specified in the version you inserted.
If you feel the need to do a wholesale revert in the article again, please include my version of the Illness and Death section.
I have posted the same message to Jayjg - Rye1967 23:55, Nov 13, 2004 (UTC)
Would you please place evidence under this heading on the evidence pages of your arbitration case which show you have made edits to Jewish, Zionist and Palestinian related topics which demonstrate NPOV editing.
If I understand the case, one of the accusations is that you engage regularly in POV editing. I will put provisional findings of fact in the proposed decision which document POV editing, but wish to offer you an opportunity to demonstrate that your editing is more balanced than it appears in the complaint. Fred Bauder 17:43, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)
Hi HistoryBuffEr, Could you explain why you removed the material I inserted about Arafat's alleged links to Munich? I provided three published sources, two secondary and one primary: a respected Arab newspaper, which I believe is regarded as Jordan's main news source; an Israeli historian (regarded as on the left and, by some in Israel, as pro-Palestinian; and as a primary source, a Palestinian who says he was the commander of the Munich operation. I feel that, in providing three disparate sources, the material should be acceptable for a Wikipedia entry. If you know of reputable sources on the other side, by all means add that, but I feel you shouldn't simply delete material like this, especially without an entry on the Talk page. I'd appreciate your views on this. Many thanks, Slim 00:03, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
Hi HistoryBuffEr, I think you archived my comment by mistake. It is a specific query about an article's content, not just a general comment, as follows: Could you explain why you removed the material I inserted about Arafat's alleged links to Munich? I provided three published sources, two secondary and one primary: a respected Arab newspaper, which I believe is regarded as Jordan's main news source; an Israeli historian (regarded as on the left and, by some in Israel, as pro-Palestinian; and as a primary source, a Palestinian who says he was the commander of the Munich operation. I feel that, in providing three disparate sources, the material should be acceptable for a Wikipedia entry. If you know of reputable sources on the other side, by all means add that, but I feel you shouldn't simply delete material like this, especially without an entry on the Talk page.
I'd appreciate hearing back from you about this. Slim 07:54, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert an article to a previous version more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you.
Good morning. I just saw your comments. I had not been on Wikipedia in the ten-hour period between when you first left me a message and when you filed an RfC. It would be polite to leave more time for people to respond before filing complaints. That way Wikipedia won't get bogged down in spurrious RfCs that could have been dealt with in other ways.
I will review the edit history of the articles in question and respond shortly. Regards, – Quadell ( talk) ( help)[[]] 13:50, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)
I have reviewed the edit history of Rachel Corrie, and it appears I was wrong. You had reverted the page four times in a 26 hour period, not a 24 hour period. I apologize.
It seems you have subsequently reverted the page four times in a second 26 hour period. You must be aware that this is violating the spirit, though not the letter, of the 3RR. My advice to you would be to revert less frequently. If you continue to get as close to breaking the 3RR as possible, then it's possible another sysop will make the same innocent mistake I did. Best regards, – Quadell ( talk) ( help)[[]] 14:26, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)
Hey, I'm not meaning to be confrontational -- I don't understand your comment on my arbitration effort. Could you let me know what kind of "stream of bias" I've been showing in my edits? I feel completely clueless as to what biases I've been showing in my edits. I'd be happy to discuss any bias you think I have, although if you'd prefer just to spell out what you mean by bias, that'd be nice too. -- Improv 05:22, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
HistoryBuffEr, please look at this complaint and if you are doing this, please quit. Fred Bauder 12:15, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)
HistoryBuffEr, please do not move my comments on the arbitration page between you and Jayjg. If I've put them in the wrong place, the arbitrators will move them, or I will, but please don't do it yourself. Slim 07:40, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)
HistoryBuffEr,
You have violated the 3RR on the Ariel Sharon article. Here are the reverts.
All these reverts were made within 24 hours. I have therefore blocked you for 24 hours, as is Wikipedia policy. Please take this time to cool off, and use the talk pages in the future to resolve these sorts of conflicts with other users. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. – Quadell ( talk) ( help)[[]] 16:40, Dec 3, 2004 (UTC)
Quadell,
You have blocked HistoryBuffEr (and any IP used by HistoryBuffEr) without any justification again.
I appreciate your close attention to my posts, but this is getting ridiculous. Despite the extensive discussion of your previous unwarranted blocking just days ago, you've made the same mistake again, only one day after the RfC closed.
I did not violate the 3RR, my posts were different.
I do not need to remind you that abusing your sysop privileges for personal disputes is a violation of rules.
Please unblock this user immediately.
HistoryBuffEr 19:34, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
P.S. If you insist on enforcing your own 3RR "standard" that any edit is a revert, there is plenty of work for you. Check edit history of your friends.
(discussion began and continued at Ta bu shi da yu Talk)
Firstly, you did violate the 3RR. You may not edit an old copy of a page and then add new material and expect that we won't call it a revert. Second, I have readded your material. Evidently those who reverted you didn't see the changes to the biography. I can see why, because you'd been reverting them continuously over a period of several days. Thirdly, whether you disendorsed me or not I couldn't give a damn as I've withdrawn from the arbitration vote anyway. Fourthy, provide evidence of Ambi and Mirv not supporting the second block please. Ambi did actually did finally support the block. See [7] on Quadell's page. So that's two admins who agree with Quadell's second decision. Fifthly, I have provided evidence on your arbcom evidence page that details how you do use the edit summary to engage in discussion. This needs to stop immediately and you need to immediately start using the talk pages to justify your edits. Sixthly, the edit [8] you gave me is for 15:56, 24 Oct 2004, however the edits that caused you to be blocked are:
This is 4 reverts under 24 hours. You get blocked for violation of the 3RR.
With regards to Jayjg, some of the reverts I see aren't good, very true. However, some of the reverts I saw were reverts where several users were reverting yourself because you refused to use the talk page correctly. I can't see why it was so hard to use it to detail the reasons your edits should stay! But it's a good point that Jayjg has been reverting too much also. You'll note I didn't block your originally, I simply enforced the block that is already in place.
I am going to place a note on Jayjg's page asking him to pursue a different course of action next time he feels the urge to revert more than three times. I suggest you also to also take a different course of action next time you feel like reverting. My advise for you is to: use the talk page to explain detailed changes. Don't rely on the edit summary to explain changes. That's not the purpose of this. Try to come a compromise on contentious issues. Put up an RFC or request for page protection if revert wars are ongoing. Stop making personal attacks and giving warnings (I've seen you do this a few times). Stop reverting!!!!
HTH. - Ta bu shi da yu 07:27, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Look, it's unfortunate that you seem to have been one of the first to get blocked for violation of the 3RR. If you check, I have asked Jayjg to also cease reverting. I really do try to be impartial, and I'm sorry that you feel that I'm biased against you. I certainly have nothing personal against you, and I said that you have plenty of information to impart to us in my views on the evidence page.
With regards to the evidence page, there are a few things I would request. I maintain that you haven't been using the talk page nearly enough. Would you agree with me to use it more when you get stuck in tricky edit situations? It wasn't clear to me why you were reverting on Israeli West Bank barrier, and I feel I'm relatively impartial on this matter. If you had posted stuff on the discussion forum while the reverts were ongoing, things might have turned out differently. I hate to say this, but I'm still in the dark about a few of those edits. I think this tells you how unclear and volatile things were getting, and why everyone was getting hot under the collar. But I digress. I am going to oppose your 30 day blocks because I think this is a silly decision (for the record, I'm going to object to Jayjg's blocks also). What I will request is that:
I feel that this is a much better and fairer remedy than blocking you for an extended period of time. I think that we will lose an valuable editor if we block you, and I am totally against the block. What do you say about this?
I agree that it would be best to get clarification of the 3RR, and I will make an ammendment to the 3RR, once I work out how this should best be done. If you would be able to suggest things, that would be great.
With regards to User:FamilyFord_car4less. Your assurance that this is not your sock puppet is quite good enough for me. I will place "HistoryBuffEr assures me that this is not his account on the user page." If you would prefer no text, I am happy to do this also. I'm sorry if either myself or another admin has not assumed good faith on this matter. With all the confusion, I might or might not have agreed with the sock puppet assertion. If I have (and my memory can be somewhat hazy at times) then you have my full and unreserved apology.
I hope that I have come to some sort of fair resolution with you over these issues. If there are any other issues I'm not an ogre (though I can be quite direct at times, sometimes this borders on rudeness: my problem I need to work out), and I'm quite willing to listen to your complaints and respond as best I can, and in a manner that is fair to yourself and other parties.
Ta bu shi da yu 22:26, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I have messaged Fred Bauer about his proposed 30 day blocks. I have an alternative proposal, only I am not part of the arbcom so am unsure whether I should add to the proposed decision. However, so you are aware of what I would suggest in your arbitration, this is what I've requested:
"I would like to request that the 30 day block not be used. Both editors have valuable contributions for Wikipedia. It would be inadvisable to stop them from editing Arab-Israeli articles, and it would be also not advisable to block them for 30 days from edits. I feel that this will just inflame matters. Instead, I would like arbcom to find the following before taking those sort of actions:
Ta bu shi da yu 23:32, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Just saw your next message on my page. This whole issue is getting bigger than Ben Hur! Look, give me a chance to catch up with what's happening here... it's getting a little hectic and I'm on my lunch break at the moment. - 02:48, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Concerning my request for arbitration iwth CheeseDreams -- what are you talking about? Snowspinner mentions the process at RfC, and I mention both RfC and RfM. When you claim that I haven't mentioned any attempts at mediation, what do you mean? What else is there? Slrubenstein
That's an interesting interpretation of facts.
QED. HistoryBuffEr 20:20, 2004 Dec 6 (UTC)
I totally agree with you that the sock puppet bit of your arbcom decision needs to be removed immediately. I have posted to the page to prove my point. Check the page. I will be leaving a message on the arbcom members talk pages. This is not on, and I'll be fighting for you on this one. - Ta bu shi da yu 05:25, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I was just looking at some of the evidence you present. Almost none of it includes diffs to the edits you are referring to. Here is the language from the top of the evidence page for your reference:
It is extremely important in order that your submitted evidence be considered by the Arbitrators that when you cite evidence to provide a link to the exact edit which displays the transaction, links to the page itself are not sufficient. For example, to cite the edit by Mennonot to the article Anomalous phenomenon adding a link to Hundredth Monkey use this form: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Anomalous_phenomenon&diff=0&oldid=5584644]
[16].
Fred Bauder 22:30, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:
OR
Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man ( comment| talk)
Due to its disorganization and unmanageable length, I have moved the material from the evidence page, 495 kb, to a new location and set up a new page. Please summarize your evidence at the new page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/HistoryBuffEr and Jayjg/Evidence, putting your evidence in a separate section, following the date and time format and limiting your presentation to no more than 1000 words and 100 diffs. Fred Bauder 13:17, Dec 13, 2004 (UTC)
I note that you remarked on the manner in which certain cases were quickly ignored, but others taken up with relish. So, I pose the question,
If an active arbitrator admitted that they are a right wing POV warrier who has, in real life, even acted in such a way as to have been suspended from practicing law, are they fit to continue in their post and meet out judgements on others.
Wikipedia:Current surveys/FrBaArbQuality
CheeseDreams 01:29, 2004 Dec 18 (omitted sig added)
Following the various tos-and-fros on WP:VIP, I have made a request for arbitration. You are one of a handful of users in the "Various" request. Sockatume 21:50, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I also have problems involving user: Veriditas. I'd suggest ignoring him, although he and user: Jewbacca have launched a campaign, re: arbitration, and the operant idea with such things is 'fighting like hell.' I find these people distracting and annoying. Sorry you had to deal with them. Auto movil 04:28, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
The case against you has closed. It is the decision of the Arbitration Committee that you are to be banned for sixty days ending 17 March 2005. You are also prohibited for a period of one year from editing any article which relates to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict except in the following manner: each edit shall involve insertion or removal of one discrete piece of information which shall be referenced either by comment or footnote to a specific page in a book published in English and readily available in libraries or by purchase. References to URLs are acceptable only if the site is in English and the information referenced is readily located by consulting the webpage. You shall be placed on personal attack parole for three months; if you make an edit which an administrator judges to be a personal attack you may be banned for up to three days. All information added by you to Israeli-Palestinian conflict articles must be adequately referenced, and you may not remove adequately referenced information from Israeli-Palestinian conflict articles, and you also may not revert edits which are purely organisational. For further details, please consult the Committee's final decision. -- Grun t 🇪🇺 01:47, 2005 Jan 16 (UTC)
Please note: To preserve context, my replies (if any) will be posted here, not on your Talk page, so add this page to your watch. Thanks. HistoryBuffEr
Hi HistoryBuffEr, I feel it is my duty to let you know that we have a 3 Revert Rule here at Wikipedia. Reverting an article more than 3 times in 24 hours is generally considered taboo, and extremely obessive reverting can result in a 24-hour block.
Best, Node 06:58, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Please take a moment to read the NPOV policy and NPOV tutorial in their entirety, whether you have read them before or not. Note the admonition that "NPOV is absolute and non-negotiable." This means that people who make remarks like "NPOV schmPOV" or "Resistance is futile" in regard to NPOV disputes should work on articles that are at less risk of dispute. You should read the section about "writing for the enemy" a few times as it applies specifically to difficulties you have had.
From your comments on the VfD page, it's clear that you have not learned the techniques WP uses to resolve these disputes. We do not write up our POVs in full and then fight over which complete version is "right." Work a couple sentences at a time, so there is a chance for people to raise objections. You must consider their objections, in exchange for their consideration of yours. Think about ways to reword your changes that avoid their objections while making your point. If possible, step back from general conclusions to the underlying details. Do not change wording that is factually accurate. A statement that someone takes a particular position on a disputed question is a fact; A statement that the position is "right" is POV.
If you have any questions or comments about your understanding of NPOV dispute resolution, or about your experiences trying to modify Israeli-Palestinian conflict, you can leave them on my talk page. Please don't post a diatribe there trying to convince me that "Occupation of Palestine" is the right term. I am not on any "side" and you will only waste your time Gazpacho 16:11, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)
HistoryBuffEr, I appreciate your desire to improve Wikipedia's content, but I think the way you are going about it is counter-productive. Rather that replacing existing articles with your own significantly different versions, I strongly recommend bringing edits one at a time to Talk: pages for discussion. The is especially true for highly contentious articles, and is standard Wikipedia practice. Also, I very strongly recommend that your restrict your comments on Talk: pages to discussions of article content, rather than comments about the people making the edits. This is also standard Wikipedia practice. Thanks. Jayjg 00:25, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Removing comments from your user talk page because you disagree with what was said is a violation of Wikipedia etiquette. See also Wikipedia:Avoiding common mistakes. Wikipedia is a collaborative project and if you choose not to approach it collaboratively, much of your effort will be wasted. Have you noticed that my addition of the phrase "occupation of Palestine" to the intro of Israeli-Palestinian conflict has gone unchallenged in subsequent edits? Maybe, just maybe, my advice is worth paying attention to. Gazpacho 18:56, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
You have removed comments from your talk page (i.e. this page) because they are critical, and you have announced that you do so willingly. This is a violation of Wikipedia etiquette. It is easy enough for you to find out what is and is not part of that etiquette, and all users are well-advised to do so. Gazpacho 08:16, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
We don't have to agree on anything but I'd like you to know that I find your attitude towards other users and your edits in regards to Israel offensive and harmful to WP. This is an encyclopedia, not a hate forum. ← Humus sapiens← Talk 09:21, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
HistoryBuffEr, I'm going to request again that instead of replacing large portions of text with entirely different texts, you please bring suggested changes here first for discussion. This has been perhaps the single most difficult problem with your edits ever since you joined Wikipedia. You know these pages are highly contentious at best, and contentious edits are best worked out on Talk: pages so that edit wars do not develop. I have yet to see you actually propose a change on any page before going ahead and making it, and this is, in my view, a recipe for continued strife. Jayjg 16:23, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
That's four reverts in one day on Arab anti-Semitism, HistoryBuffEr. You know this is a violation of guidelines. Jayjg 05:36, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I doubt if I am qualified to co-sponsor this. Have you tried Alberuni, Gadykozma, Jfdwolff, or Jayjg? Susvolans 13:16, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Hi, so far HistoryBuffer has not contacted me at all and seems to prefer to think of me as "foaming-at-the-mouth". Now what exactly is implied by such a vicious comment? IZAK 04:14, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Please check [ Requests_for_comment/IZAK]. If you agree with the complaint please add your sig to certify the basis for dispute (1 more sig is needed within 24 hours.) Thanks. HistoryBuffEr 02:43, 2004 Oct 6 (UTC)
You might not have had me specifically in mind, but I take the above personally: the shoe fits, so I'm wearing it. I am an admin as such I've tried hard NOT to use my priviliges to impose my viewpoint. Often I fail, and I need to be reminded -- just as a dancer or hockey player needs a coach to point out errors during a performance or game. I can't simultanously 'see myself' and 'do things' -- only the great ones can 'see themselves in action'.
The 'thousand cuts' approach rarely works. Someone finally has to take the bull by the horns and do a full rewrite. Gary D. did this for Prem Rawat (no, that's not part of the Arab-Israeli conflict).
You're a thoughtful chap. I think we can work togther. That is, assuming my estimation that you really want to see ALL points of view expressed rather than the "objective truth" exalted and endorsed. -- Uncle Ed 19:19, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Have a look @ [1]. Apparently were sockpuppet-brothers, or some scheiße. Cheers, Sam [ Spade] 22:41, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Sure, and "you guys" think Anti-Semitism is "normal", right? IZAK 00:01, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
HistoryBuffEr, do not take it upon yourself to remove a valid notice in regard to this RfC. I engaged you on this extensively and you refuse to follow the clear guidleines at the top of the RfC. Ed Poor may well have engaged IZAK but he has not posted the evidence on the RfC, as required. I would caution you that your easy resort to sarcasm and ad hominem attacks does not comport well for someone who would bring RfCs against others. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 19:15, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Looking at the discussion and noticing that eventually several threads collapsed into personal attack rounds, I was trying to "lower the total mass well below critical" by moving the relevant threads to the relevant talk pages. The remaining text still includes the references for easier tracing of the whole discussion, yet remains focused on the VfD. I did it out of assuming the good faith of those who were insulting each other, letting them to cool down and discuss the things together in a slightly more "private" atmosphere (of course, one can watch any talk page, but I believe you understand what I mean). It is for the same reason that I didn't just move it over to the discussion – the threads collapsed didn't really belong together on the same page, they were more of isolated mutual labeling and POV-accusatory off-topic speech of various degrees of intensity. Hopefully I made myself more clear now. As I was trying to cool the things down, I really would like to get the responses on my talk page rather than there in order to keep the discussion farther from the conflict. Hoping for more understanding next time, BACbKA 23:42, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Nice to meet you. Alberuni 02:27, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Heh, these paranoid Zionistas need to make up their mind whether it's the whole world that is after them or it's just one sock-puppet.
Btw, unless all those who certified dispute on your RfC have personally contacted you regarding the dispute and were rebuffed by you, you should remove those who did not from the cert list (or, better yet, first ask Cecropia to do it because she enjoyed removing users from IZAK RfC cert list.) HistoryBuffEr 03:25, 2004 Oct 15 (UTC)
Historybuff... I'm just curious. What do you think of Jewish people in general? Rickyrab 19:20, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Dear HistoryBuffEr,
Please find attached the motion of support I felt necessary on behalf of the current campaign against you! Thank you!
Dear All,
Please refrain from putting tags on people and remain logical, civilized and without passions taking over. Bile and jugulars have no precedence over the white and gray matter :O). Tags are neither nice, nor arguments. Instead of using so much time, energy and bandwidth to wait for people and stick it on their forhead, why don't you rest, smell flowers, walk in public gardens and admire automn in this beautiful northern hemisphere :O) As an experienced editor, medical doctor, victim of
Securitate, libelled/arbitrated/rfc/banned/tagged/smeared colleague, please stop ! -
irismeister 23:26, 2004 Oct 16 (UTC)
Please note that Wikipedia policy is that one user may only revert an article three times in one 24 hour period. Rick K 04:51, Oct 24, 2004 (UTC)
HistoryBuffEr hi. While I would be surprised that a Wikipedia lawyer such as yourself would not know about the three revert rule, still it would seem you don't since in the last 2 hours you have reverted Occupation of Palestine 4 times. This might be a good time to try and negotiate on the talk page. Thanks. Gadykozma 04:20, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I have answered your strange complaint on my own talk page. Now, if you want to see the history of a protected redirect, when you see the little text that says "redirected from Struggle over Palestine" just at the top, hit that link. You will now be able to view the history and edit the page if it's not protected. HTH. Gadykozma 18:24, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I assume you are looking for Talk:Occupation of Palestine or Talk:Struggle over Palestine. As for protection, next time try Wikipedia:Protection log. BTW, I accused you somewhere that you yourself moved Occupation of Palestine to Struggle over Palestine, if this is not true, I apologize. Gadykozma 20:04, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Proteus has deleted discussion of his actions from his Talk. The discussion is reporoduced below to preserve history. (See Proteus Talk for full context)
Proteus: You have reverted and protected Struggle over Palestine with this explanation "(revert to version favoured by those not breaking 3 revert rule (this redirect is now protected))".
However, you actually reverted to the version favored by those who reverted 11 times. "Jayjg" reverted the article 6 times, "IZAK" reverted the article 4 times, and "Gadykozma" reverted the article 1 time. All these 11 reverts were to the version you reverted to, as shown the article history:
Also, I did not break the revert rule. I was editing the article in between and trying to restore the original Talk (which was moved by the redirects).
Curiously, you have also redirected and protected the related article Occupations of Palestine, with similar history.
Could you explain your strange description and your apparently biased actions? HistoryBuffEr 19:16, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Manipulative dweeb versus expert witness. I laughed out loud.-- Alberuni 01:04, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Care to vote? -- Alberuni 02:08, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Good afternoon. Thanks for clarifying on that discussion on the Deletion Policy page. I didn't mean to come across as a humorless stick-in-the-mud. Unfortunately, it's very difficult to tell the difference between sarcasm and an intentional attack in written communications. Subtle humor just doesn't come through well and is frequently misunderstood. Anyway, thanks for clarifying. Rossami 16:29, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Hi HistoryBuffEr, I've requested mediation with you; please see WP:RFM Jayjg 16:24, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
As you have definitively dismissed Mediation, I have requested Arbitration with you. Jayjg 18:36, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)
On October 25th, HistoryBuffEr was asked to provide specific items, that may be addressed by the Wikipedia community, which he believes are factually incorrect. HistoryBuffEr has declined to do so during the intervening two weeks. Remove totallydisputed till specific, addressable items are cited. Lance6Wins 11:21, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Your Nov12:20-30 blanket revert of major portions of this article [2] (marked as a 'minor edit') have overwritten my changes to the illness and death section. Other changes by other contributors have presumably also been overwritten by that and your subsequent reverts. If you want to wage war about the content of the page please avail of the existing Wikipedia dispute resolution mechanisms, including locking the page. Due to your revert, the rest of us are currently wasting our time making changes.
If you are making your changes in the interests of factual accuracy, you will appreciate my attempt to record that Arafat's illness was first reported on Oct 25 and not Oct 28, as specified in the version you inserted.
If you feel the need to do a wholesale revert in the article again, please include my version of the Illness and Death section.
I have posted the same message to Jayjg - Rye1967 23:55, Nov 13, 2004 (UTC)
Would you please place evidence under this heading on the evidence pages of your arbitration case which show you have made edits to Jewish, Zionist and Palestinian related topics which demonstrate NPOV editing.
If I understand the case, one of the accusations is that you engage regularly in POV editing. I will put provisional findings of fact in the proposed decision which document POV editing, but wish to offer you an opportunity to demonstrate that your editing is more balanced than it appears in the complaint. Fred Bauder 17:43, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)
Hi HistoryBuffEr, Could you explain why you removed the material I inserted about Arafat's alleged links to Munich? I provided three published sources, two secondary and one primary: a respected Arab newspaper, which I believe is regarded as Jordan's main news source; an Israeli historian (regarded as on the left and, by some in Israel, as pro-Palestinian; and as a primary source, a Palestinian who says he was the commander of the Munich operation. I feel that, in providing three disparate sources, the material should be acceptable for a Wikipedia entry. If you know of reputable sources on the other side, by all means add that, but I feel you shouldn't simply delete material like this, especially without an entry on the Talk page. I'd appreciate your views on this. Many thanks, Slim 00:03, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
Hi HistoryBuffEr, I think you archived my comment by mistake. It is a specific query about an article's content, not just a general comment, as follows: Could you explain why you removed the material I inserted about Arafat's alleged links to Munich? I provided three published sources, two secondary and one primary: a respected Arab newspaper, which I believe is regarded as Jordan's main news source; an Israeli historian (regarded as on the left and, by some in Israel, as pro-Palestinian; and as a primary source, a Palestinian who says he was the commander of the Munich operation. I feel that, in providing three disparate sources, the material should be acceptable for a Wikipedia entry. If you know of reputable sources on the other side, by all means add that, but I feel you shouldn't simply delete material like this, especially without an entry on the Talk page.
I'd appreciate hearing back from you about this. Slim 07:54, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert an article to a previous version more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you.
Good morning. I just saw your comments. I had not been on Wikipedia in the ten-hour period between when you first left me a message and when you filed an RfC. It would be polite to leave more time for people to respond before filing complaints. That way Wikipedia won't get bogged down in spurrious RfCs that could have been dealt with in other ways.
I will review the edit history of the articles in question and respond shortly. Regards, – Quadell ( talk) ( help)[[]] 13:50, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)
I have reviewed the edit history of Rachel Corrie, and it appears I was wrong. You had reverted the page four times in a 26 hour period, not a 24 hour period. I apologize.
It seems you have subsequently reverted the page four times in a second 26 hour period. You must be aware that this is violating the spirit, though not the letter, of the 3RR. My advice to you would be to revert less frequently. If you continue to get as close to breaking the 3RR as possible, then it's possible another sysop will make the same innocent mistake I did. Best regards, – Quadell ( talk) ( help)[[]] 14:26, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)
Hey, I'm not meaning to be confrontational -- I don't understand your comment on my arbitration effort. Could you let me know what kind of "stream of bias" I've been showing in my edits? I feel completely clueless as to what biases I've been showing in my edits. I'd be happy to discuss any bias you think I have, although if you'd prefer just to spell out what you mean by bias, that'd be nice too. -- Improv 05:22, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
HistoryBuffEr, please look at this complaint and if you are doing this, please quit. Fred Bauder 12:15, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)
HistoryBuffEr, please do not move my comments on the arbitration page between you and Jayjg. If I've put them in the wrong place, the arbitrators will move them, or I will, but please don't do it yourself. Slim 07:40, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)
HistoryBuffEr,
You have violated the 3RR on the Ariel Sharon article. Here are the reverts.
All these reverts were made within 24 hours. I have therefore blocked you for 24 hours, as is Wikipedia policy. Please take this time to cool off, and use the talk pages in the future to resolve these sorts of conflicts with other users. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. – Quadell ( talk) ( help)[[]] 16:40, Dec 3, 2004 (UTC)
Quadell,
You have blocked HistoryBuffEr (and any IP used by HistoryBuffEr) without any justification again.
I appreciate your close attention to my posts, but this is getting ridiculous. Despite the extensive discussion of your previous unwarranted blocking just days ago, you've made the same mistake again, only one day after the RfC closed.
I did not violate the 3RR, my posts were different.
I do not need to remind you that abusing your sysop privileges for personal disputes is a violation of rules.
Please unblock this user immediately.
HistoryBuffEr 19:34, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
P.S. If you insist on enforcing your own 3RR "standard" that any edit is a revert, there is plenty of work for you. Check edit history of your friends.
(discussion began and continued at Ta bu shi da yu Talk)
Firstly, you did violate the 3RR. You may not edit an old copy of a page and then add new material and expect that we won't call it a revert. Second, I have readded your material. Evidently those who reverted you didn't see the changes to the biography. I can see why, because you'd been reverting them continuously over a period of several days. Thirdly, whether you disendorsed me or not I couldn't give a damn as I've withdrawn from the arbitration vote anyway. Fourthy, provide evidence of Ambi and Mirv not supporting the second block please. Ambi did actually did finally support the block. See [7] on Quadell's page. So that's two admins who agree with Quadell's second decision. Fifthly, I have provided evidence on your arbcom evidence page that details how you do use the edit summary to engage in discussion. This needs to stop immediately and you need to immediately start using the talk pages to justify your edits. Sixthly, the edit [8] you gave me is for 15:56, 24 Oct 2004, however the edits that caused you to be blocked are:
This is 4 reverts under 24 hours. You get blocked for violation of the 3RR.
With regards to Jayjg, some of the reverts I see aren't good, very true. However, some of the reverts I saw were reverts where several users were reverting yourself because you refused to use the talk page correctly. I can't see why it was so hard to use it to detail the reasons your edits should stay! But it's a good point that Jayjg has been reverting too much also. You'll note I didn't block your originally, I simply enforced the block that is already in place.
I am going to place a note on Jayjg's page asking him to pursue a different course of action next time he feels the urge to revert more than three times. I suggest you also to also take a different course of action next time you feel like reverting. My advise for you is to: use the talk page to explain detailed changes. Don't rely on the edit summary to explain changes. That's not the purpose of this. Try to come a compromise on contentious issues. Put up an RFC or request for page protection if revert wars are ongoing. Stop making personal attacks and giving warnings (I've seen you do this a few times). Stop reverting!!!!
HTH. - Ta bu shi da yu 07:27, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Look, it's unfortunate that you seem to have been one of the first to get blocked for violation of the 3RR. If you check, I have asked Jayjg to also cease reverting. I really do try to be impartial, and I'm sorry that you feel that I'm biased against you. I certainly have nothing personal against you, and I said that you have plenty of information to impart to us in my views on the evidence page.
With regards to the evidence page, there are a few things I would request. I maintain that you haven't been using the talk page nearly enough. Would you agree with me to use it more when you get stuck in tricky edit situations? It wasn't clear to me why you were reverting on Israeli West Bank barrier, and I feel I'm relatively impartial on this matter. If you had posted stuff on the discussion forum while the reverts were ongoing, things might have turned out differently. I hate to say this, but I'm still in the dark about a few of those edits. I think this tells you how unclear and volatile things were getting, and why everyone was getting hot under the collar. But I digress. I am going to oppose your 30 day blocks because I think this is a silly decision (for the record, I'm going to object to Jayjg's blocks also). What I will request is that:
I feel that this is a much better and fairer remedy than blocking you for an extended period of time. I think that we will lose an valuable editor if we block you, and I am totally against the block. What do you say about this?
I agree that it would be best to get clarification of the 3RR, and I will make an ammendment to the 3RR, once I work out how this should best be done. If you would be able to suggest things, that would be great.
With regards to User:FamilyFord_car4less. Your assurance that this is not your sock puppet is quite good enough for me. I will place "HistoryBuffEr assures me that this is not his account on the user page." If you would prefer no text, I am happy to do this also. I'm sorry if either myself or another admin has not assumed good faith on this matter. With all the confusion, I might or might not have agreed with the sock puppet assertion. If I have (and my memory can be somewhat hazy at times) then you have my full and unreserved apology.
I hope that I have come to some sort of fair resolution with you over these issues. If there are any other issues I'm not an ogre (though I can be quite direct at times, sometimes this borders on rudeness: my problem I need to work out), and I'm quite willing to listen to your complaints and respond as best I can, and in a manner that is fair to yourself and other parties.
Ta bu shi da yu 22:26, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I have messaged Fred Bauer about his proposed 30 day blocks. I have an alternative proposal, only I am not part of the arbcom so am unsure whether I should add to the proposed decision. However, so you are aware of what I would suggest in your arbitration, this is what I've requested:
"I would like to request that the 30 day block not be used. Both editors have valuable contributions for Wikipedia. It would be inadvisable to stop them from editing Arab-Israeli articles, and it would be also not advisable to block them for 30 days from edits. I feel that this will just inflame matters. Instead, I would like arbcom to find the following before taking those sort of actions:
Ta bu shi da yu 23:32, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Just saw your next message on my page. This whole issue is getting bigger than Ben Hur! Look, give me a chance to catch up with what's happening here... it's getting a little hectic and I'm on my lunch break at the moment. - 02:48, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Concerning my request for arbitration iwth CheeseDreams -- what are you talking about? Snowspinner mentions the process at RfC, and I mention both RfC and RfM. When you claim that I haven't mentioned any attempts at mediation, what do you mean? What else is there? Slrubenstein
That's an interesting interpretation of facts.
QED. HistoryBuffEr 20:20, 2004 Dec 6 (UTC)
I totally agree with you that the sock puppet bit of your arbcom decision needs to be removed immediately. I have posted to the page to prove my point. Check the page. I will be leaving a message on the arbcom members talk pages. This is not on, and I'll be fighting for you on this one. - Ta bu shi da yu 05:25, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I was just looking at some of the evidence you present. Almost none of it includes diffs to the edits you are referring to. Here is the language from the top of the evidence page for your reference:
It is extremely important in order that your submitted evidence be considered by the Arbitrators that when you cite evidence to provide a link to the exact edit which displays the transaction, links to the page itself are not sufficient. For example, to cite the edit by Mennonot to the article Anomalous phenomenon adding a link to Hundredth Monkey use this form: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Anomalous_phenomenon&diff=0&oldid=5584644]
[16].
Fred Bauder 22:30, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:
OR
Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man ( comment| talk)
Due to its disorganization and unmanageable length, I have moved the material from the evidence page, 495 kb, to a new location and set up a new page. Please summarize your evidence at the new page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/HistoryBuffEr and Jayjg/Evidence, putting your evidence in a separate section, following the date and time format and limiting your presentation to no more than 1000 words and 100 diffs. Fred Bauder 13:17, Dec 13, 2004 (UTC)
I note that you remarked on the manner in which certain cases were quickly ignored, but others taken up with relish. So, I pose the question,
If an active arbitrator admitted that they are a right wing POV warrier who has, in real life, even acted in such a way as to have been suspended from practicing law, are they fit to continue in their post and meet out judgements on others.
Wikipedia:Current surveys/FrBaArbQuality
CheeseDreams 01:29, 2004 Dec 18 (omitted sig added)
Following the various tos-and-fros on WP:VIP, I have made a request for arbitration. You are one of a handful of users in the "Various" request. Sockatume 21:50, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I also have problems involving user: Veriditas. I'd suggest ignoring him, although he and user: Jewbacca have launched a campaign, re: arbitration, and the operant idea with such things is 'fighting like hell.' I find these people distracting and annoying. Sorry you had to deal with them. Auto movil 04:28, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
The case against you has closed. It is the decision of the Arbitration Committee that you are to be banned for sixty days ending 17 March 2005. You are also prohibited for a period of one year from editing any article which relates to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict except in the following manner: each edit shall involve insertion or removal of one discrete piece of information which shall be referenced either by comment or footnote to a specific page in a book published in English and readily available in libraries or by purchase. References to URLs are acceptable only if the site is in English and the information referenced is readily located by consulting the webpage. You shall be placed on personal attack parole for three months; if you make an edit which an administrator judges to be a personal attack you may be banned for up to three days. All information added by you to Israeli-Palestinian conflict articles must be adequately referenced, and you may not remove adequately referenced information from Israeli-Palestinian conflict articles, and you also may not revert edits which are purely organisational. For further details, please consult the Committee's final decision. -- Grun t 🇪🇺 01:47, 2005 Jan 16 (UTC)