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Hello! I wanted to discuss the use of the word “mainly” for the ABA article. I feel that if “mainly” means “more than anything else,” then I feel that perfectly applies to ABA controversies as it is clear that the vast majority of sources indicate that manor controversy is reserved for the autism rights movement, and nearly every major organization that has opined on the topic deals with autism. The article does not, outside of research done by non-autistic researchers, mention at any notable length, figures, governments, and organizations outside the Austism Rights Movement on this controversy. Some organizations have opined on things like shock collars, but these are not uses exclusively in ABA practices and opposition to them is universal with regards to their application. So that is my rationale for “mainly.” To be honest, I have been looking to disengage with this article for some time but cannot seem to find an easy way out. I suggested a DRN but if one is made I do not think I would be apt to engage in it simply due to my desire for some peace of mind. I would hope more users can provide alternative perspective. Barbarbarty ( talk) 21:03, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
For the sake of preserving some senae of order I reverted it as I feel “especially” can be seen as adequate, though I would like your perspective on this matter still. Sorry again if things have been getting testy, had I known this discourse would go on for so long perhaps I might have kept my nose out of it! No worries! Barbarbarty ( talk) 21:06, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
Also I feel that it is wrong to state that a list of applications of ABA should not belong in the lead simply because not every single application is discussed in detail. Leads should provide context and it is important to note to people that ABA is used in other areas outside of autism. If we are to remove it, then the idea that ABA is controversial “outside the autistic rights movement” should definitely not belong, as not only os the original sources pretty weak (compared to the myriad of sources for something universally controversial like Conversion Therapy), but also due to the fact that controversies with ABA in the article outside of journal articles are almost exclusively written by autism advocacy groups in the body. This is my view. I would feel for ABA applications if we can find a better source such as a textbook or something similar that would do much to alleviate the situation. I have been told that Wikipedia provides free access but I am kind of a geezer trying to navigate this so hopefully the DRN will bring a more technologically competent user :O Barbarbarty ( talk) 19:31, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
I should state that the above is not am attempt to be antagonistic! Please do not get me wrong! I just feel it would be useful to explain my perspective a bit more clearly. The talk page devolved in a direction that was obviously unhelpful so I feel that I warrant an explanation on my positions to other users involved. Frankly the idea of this going on is very tense to me! I hope I did not contribute to any stress on your part. Barbarbarty ( talk) 03:25, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your input on the ABA page, it's been really helpful.
Perhaps inevitably, I have now initiated formal Wikipedian dispute resolution. I've named you in it as a participant; I hope this doesn't cause you any trouble. Let's hope this brings us somewhere closer to achieving consensus on this perennially contentious topic! Oolong ( talk) 15:04, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
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Hi @ HaiFire3344, your claim that sex is the same as gender is incorrect. In the academic discourse these are not the same, and it continues to cause issues when people use these terms to mean the same thing.
Sex is a biological trait, that can be somewhat modified by taking hormones. Gender is a social construct and a role assignment. Gender is often assigned based on sex, but gender is not the same thing as sex.
https://cihr-irsc.gc.ca/e/48642.html
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https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/gender-and-health 1.144.111.181 ( talk) 02:51, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
Hello, I'm Glane23. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions—specifically this edit to Itch.io—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help desk. Thanks. Geoff | Who, me? 17:05, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
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Hello! I wanted to discuss the use of the word “mainly” for the ABA article. I feel that if “mainly” means “more than anything else,” then I feel that perfectly applies to ABA controversies as it is clear that the vast majority of sources indicate that manor controversy is reserved for the autism rights movement, and nearly every major organization that has opined on the topic deals with autism. The article does not, outside of research done by non-autistic researchers, mention at any notable length, figures, governments, and organizations outside the Austism Rights Movement on this controversy. Some organizations have opined on things like shock collars, but these are not uses exclusively in ABA practices and opposition to them is universal with regards to their application. So that is my rationale for “mainly.” To be honest, I have been looking to disengage with this article for some time but cannot seem to find an easy way out. I suggested a DRN but if one is made I do not think I would be apt to engage in it simply due to my desire for some peace of mind. I would hope more users can provide alternative perspective. Barbarbarty ( talk) 21:03, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
For the sake of preserving some senae of order I reverted it as I feel “especially” can be seen as adequate, though I would like your perspective on this matter still. Sorry again if things have been getting testy, had I known this discourse would go on for so long perhaps I might have kept my nose out of it! No worries! Barbarbarty ( talk) 21:06, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
Also I feel that it is wrong to state that a list of applications of ABA should not belong in the lead simply because not every single application is discussed in detail. Leads should provide context and it is important to note to people that ABA is used in other areas outside of autism. If we are to remove it, then the idea that ABA is controversial “outside the autistic rights movement” should definitely not belong, as not only os the original sources pretty weak (compared to the myriad of sources for something universally controversial like Conversion Therapy), but also due to the fact that controversies with ABA in the article outside of journal articles are almost exclusively written by autism advocacy groups in the body. This is my view. I would feel for ABA applications if we can find a better source such as a textbook or something similar that would do much to alleviate the situation. I have been told that Wikipedia provides free access but I am kind of a geezer trying to navigate this so hopefully the DRN will bring a more technologically competent user :O Barbarbarty ( talk) 19:31, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
I should state that the above is not am attempt to be antagonistic! Please do not get me wrong! I just feel it would be useful to explain my perspective a bit more clearly. The talk page devolved in a direction that was obviously unhelpful so I feel that I warrant an explanation on my positions to other users involved. Frankly the idea of this going on is very tense to me! I hope I did not contribute to any stress on your part. Barbarbarty ( talk) 03:25, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your input on the ABA page, it's been really helpful.
Perhaps inevitably, I have now initiated formal Wikipedian dispute resolution. I've named you in it as a participant; I hope this doesn't cause you any trouble. Let's hope this brings us somewhere closer to achieving consensus on this perennially contentious topic! Oolong ( talk) 15:04, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
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Hi @ HaiFire3344, your claim that sex is the same as gender is incorrect. In the academic discourse these are not the same, and it continues to cause issues when people use these terms to mean the same thing.
Sex is a biological trait, that can be somewhat modified by taking hormones. Gender is a social construct and a role assignment. Gender is often assigned based on sex, but gender is not the same thing as sex.
https://cihr-irsc.gc.ca/e/48642.html
https://www.coe.int/en/web/gender-matters/sex-and-gender
https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/gender-and-health 1.144.111.181 ( talk) 02:51, 10 January 2024 (UTC)