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You mean that the sources are not provided? The Wiki-links do work. "Archaic" and "outdated" betrays a lack of understanding. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 20:11, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus, I didn't understand why you did this revert [1]. I think that sentence has been there for a while. It would be more productive if you open discussions on the talk page rather than reverting edits. My principle is, don't revert anything unless the edit was totally totally wrong. That is not the case here. Anyway, please look under "Sources" for the sources that have been cited. Cheers, Kautilya3 ( talk) 13:25, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus, would you have the expertise to cross check the recent edits to the Somanath page [2]? We will need to work on cleaning it up at some stage but, for the time being, let us at least make sure that it doesn't get any worse. Cheers, Kautilya3 ( talk) 13:11, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi, Could you please upload a Flag/logo for the Bharatiya Janata Party article. There was a logo but unfortunately it was delete due to license issue. Therefore, please upload valid license logo for BJP make sure its in SVG format and uploaded in commons section, so that it can be put in other languages as well. Thank You-- ♥ Kkm010 ♥ ♪ Talk ♪ ߷ ♀ Contribs ♀ 13:30, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus, can you please do discussions on the talk pages instead of the edit summaries? It is so much more civilized that way! Cheers, Kautilya3 ( talk) 18:25, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
See /info/en/?search=History_of_India#Vedic_period_.281750_BCE_-_500_BCE.29 and on the left, there are two templates, that's why you don't have to insert maps outside the template when they are already inserted inside. Bladesmulti ( talk) 14:36, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
@ Joshua Jonathan , do have a look at History of India page. It seems that there is a problem/resistance to depict/insert the Aryan Migration template in clear pictures.That's why @ Bladesmulti is insisting to keep a floating template you inserted on 13th Jan only. Look into the matter and I have nothing more to see or do.But, I have seen such tendencies before also to Aryan migration theory.I can not revert anymore. It was better before 13th Jan. Thanks. Ghatus ( talk) 04:38, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus, is there a historian called V. K. Agnihotri? His book is being cited on a host of pages like this one [3], which look quite flakey to me. Kautilya3 ( talk) 14:14, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the thanks! Highly appreciated. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 13:56, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
Most of what you had recovered back to the page, [4] it was removed by a user as it was copied from here. Bladesmulti ( talk) 07:28, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
@ Bladesmulti, if there is copyright problem, change the language then. No need to delete the section. Ghatus ( talk) 11:36, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
This source does not appear to be reliable, not to mention you copy & pasted from it which is plagiarism. Also, the paragraph you plagiarized does not appear to be supported by The Life and Works of Sultan Alauddin Khalji, by Ghulam Sarwar Khan Niazi. Therefore, since you have plagiarized this paragraph, I will be removing it. Please do not re-add said plagiarism or unreliable source, since this would be a violation of policy. -- Kansas Bear ( talk) 18:36, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
None can hide history. Proper sources are given. One can find in any book on alauddin Khilji the killing of "New Muslims". Even, page number is given in OUP book. Have changed the language totally. Oxford University Press is not an unreliable source. Ghatus ( talk) 04:21, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
You're right! And point 4, "The impact of the "Aryans" [...] on the formation of a race or nation" is the most interesting point. The Kuru Kingdom is most relevant in this respect, since that's the place and the time when the "Vedic fold" was formed, which has enveloped most of India, it's culture, and it's societal organisation. These two sources were highly informative for me, on this topic:
Best regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 06:46, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus, I hadn't noticed that you had removed my tags [5]. Please check now what the other sources say. You should note that the Sangh Parivar fans always want to create Wiki pages based on what the organisations say. They don't believe in third party sources. All such articles should be tagged just like I did. Cheers, Kautilya3 ( talk) 20:43, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
Maratha's lost many engagements during 1680-1707, however you are removing the battles in which Maratha's lost against the Mughals, which demonstrates clear bias and is a violation of Wikipedia's NPOV policy. You have been warned. Xtremedood ( talk) 03:03, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus. I don't know if you've got access to scientific journals, but this article may be of interest to you. Best regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 05:51, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
"The early beginnings of the Indian systems of philosophy take us back to the pre-Buddhist era. They develop gradually, the Brahminical systems side by side with the Buddhist, often criticizing each other, often borrowing from one another. Before the beginning of the Christian era, six Brahminical systems had taken shape and crystallized themselves, out of the welter of many such systems. Each one of them represents an independent approach, a separate argument, and yet they were not isolated from each other but rather parts of a larger plan.
The six systems are known as: (1) Nyaya, (2) Vaishesika, (3) Samkhya, (4) Yoga, (5) Mimamsa, and (6) Vedanta...
...The next system (here Fifth) of philosophy is known as the Mimamsa. This is ritualistic and tends towards polytheism. Modern popular Hinduism as well as Hindu Law have been largely influenced by this system and its rules which lay down the dharma or the scheme of right living as conceived by it. It might be noted that the poly-theism of the Hindus is of a curious variety, for the devas, the shining ones or gods, for all their special powers are supposed to be of a lower order of creation than man. Both the Hindus and Buddhists believe that human birth is the highest stage that the Being has reached on the road to self-realization. Even the devas can only achieve this freedom and realization through human birth. This conception is evidently far removed from normal polytheism. Buddhists say that only man can attain the supreme consummation of Buddhahood...'"
Ghatus ( talk) 06:23, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
For "destroying Buddhism," see http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/kumaarila/. And for Advaita practice, see N. Dalal (2009), Contemplative practice and textual Agency in Advaita Vedanta. My point is: India's intellectual history may be much more complex than we all realise, or are even able to know. "Historicity," being aware of historicity, is an aspect of this (lack of) awareness & knowledge. I'm bothering Gathus with this because of his interest in history; somehow he made me aware of the importance of being aware of historicity, and a possible lack of such a notion with some Indian editors. Best regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 09:29, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
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Gentlemen, thanks for the nice conversation. Plaeae have a cup of tea! Best regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 10:20, 1 April 2015 (UTC) |
Thank you for contributing there. But you really don't have to add separate headings like you did here. It also speaks about your knowledge of WP:ARE and how they are formatted. Thank you. OccultZone ( Talk • Contributions • Log) 12:05, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus, these guys say all our standard history is still colonial: [6]. What do you think? Kautilya3 ( talk) 18:46, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for your contributions. I would request you not to use WP:TW on good faith edits like you did here. Please also read " when to use rollback". Thank you. OccultZone ( Talk • Contributions • Log) 15:40, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Are you sure about this? [8] Most of our historian friends think the Arabs were preoccupied with the Byzantium and didn't have the resources to open another front in India. Trying reading the Jethmalani article that I cited yesterday. [1] Cheers, Kautilya3 ( talk) 13:38, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
It seems like a fairy tale. History taught me that every imperial power, as rightly uttered by Akbar, has to go for conquest or they will be conquered. This part can not be true - "Umar, the second Rashid of the Rashidun Caliphate was opposed to attacking India, even when he was told that "Indian rivers are pearls, her mountains rubies, her trees perfumes," for he regarded India as a country of complete freedom of thought and belief where Muslims and others were free to practice their faith." It seems like a propaganda. Ghatus ( talk) 14:24, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
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He seems like a genius. See [10]. I am surprised we don't have more about him on Wikipedia. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 13:26, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
@ Kautilya3:, I will respond/reply after 20th May. My exam is on from 11th to 20th.:-) Ghatus ( talk) 14:42, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus, can I urge you to be nice to the newbies? We need good new editors who can battle the POV-pushers. We should mentor them to become productive. Blanket reverts like this [11] will either demoralise them or turn them into edit-warriors themselves. Please check the talk page, where I have had a discussion with the editor, and he self-reverted a lot of the changes he did. If there are still remaining problems with his edit, please explain them to him, either on the article talk page or his personal talk page. - Kautilya3 ( talk) 08:43, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
BTW, have you seen my responses in Mahmud of Ghazni talk page. The whole article is a communal propaganda and it needs to be re-written. Ghatus ( talk) 08:53, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi, You have reverted my edits in Indian Armed Forces page and noted to discuss. I have tried to provide citations which are most authentic i.e Ministry of Home Affairs' Office Memorandum for CAPFs nomenclature, ICG history from their official website.. I am not sure how to discuss and where to discuss. I am new to wikipedia talks. Please direct/advise me to take to discuss page. I will be much grateful for your assistance. Thanks Hvvk89 ( talk) 07:32, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
Kautilya3 & Ghatus Thanks. I will do it. Hvvk89 ( talk) 11:55, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
Have a look to [ [13]] The two users [Faizan,Mar4d] misused the rollback rights. They'd been making unnecessary reverts and pushing there POV on the article! I will request you to pls visit this article: [ [14]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.245.158.109 ( talk) 09:08, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
Dear Ghatus! Please read this and add few points to the indo-Pak air war of 1965! This source also can helpful in correcting WP:FICTREF claims in other indo-Pak articles! Thanks 101.60.204.248 ( talk) 13:13, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
You are engaged in an edit war on page Indo-Pakistani War of 1965 within same contents since two days 1 2 3 and you do not want to discuss on talk page. Its clear violation of WP:AVOIDEDITWAR. BTW per WP:BALANCE Neutrality assigns weight to viewpoints in proportion to their prominence. However, when reputable sources contradict one another and are relatively equal in prominence per WP:BALANCE. 1965 War was not Indian Victory. Since many sources describe the war as Pakistan Victory, Indian Victory, Draw, Stalemate and Inconclusive so there is source contradict and are relatively equal in prominence. So I have to undo your revert per WP:BALANCE . HIAS ( talk) 16:54, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
@ Kautilya3:, @ Faizan: Sorry for the delay. I was busy in some works. So, here the point is whether a pic of Pak Army capturing a fort in R'stan should be inserted or not in addition to the existence of a similar kind of a photo already in the specific section.
Hi, Any idea how to change the armed forces components in Portal:Military of India It is semi-protected and only autoconfirmed users can edit it. Thanks Hvvk89 ( talk) 17:18, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus, You reverted edits on Indo-Pakistan war of 1965 referring to the talk page. But the talk page has unanswered comments by Wikibaba. Can you answer them please? - Kautilya3 ( talk) 10:21, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus, you can bookmark this link [16] and use it for generating full citations from Google Books urls. It is a lot more professional than plain URL's. Cheers, Kautilya3 ( talk) 11:44, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
[ https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=History_of_India&curid=13890&diff=686651307&oldid=686650507 Vandalism?] Neh... Could be worse, much worse. Best, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 13:48, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus. I've taken the liberty to add MiszaBot to your talkpage. The first archive will be created automatically tomorrow. Best regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 05:46, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
Hey Ghatus, Can you please have a look to this " Indo-Pakistani War of 1965 ? Have a look to the recent POV Addition by one of the Pakistani editor "Wikibaba1977" ! "According to neutral assessments and the most recent estimates Pakistan held 1600 square miles of Indian territory ( 1300 of it in dessert ) while India holding 350 square miles of Pakistan territory but of greater strategic value in Lahore , Sialkot and Kashmir Sector[50][51][52][53]" ! Please check the reliability of the sources given..... MBlaze Lightning ( talk) 05:17, 3 November 2015 (UTC) MBlaze Lightning ( talk) 05:17, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
And have a look to this too [17] "A Pakistan another bias and obvious fake claim ? MBlaze Lightning ( talk) 05:29, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
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Suppose Delhi had developed an Islamic community, which eventually grew powerful enough to take over the surrounding kingdoms. Then you would call it the "rise of Muslim powers." But that is not what happened. The Muslim rulers from the surrounding regions of India came to conquer. Should it be called a "Muslim conquest," i.e., was religion a factor? The answer is again yes, because the Turko-Persian literature of the time is full of Islamist ideology. - Kautilya3 ( talk) 10:04, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Yes, it was indeed a "conquest" in 1206. But, it was not the only conquest to single out. More than a dozen of such conquests took place in the preceding 2000 years having profound impacts. Either mention them all or mention them not at all. Again, only 2 out of 7 Muslim dynasties that dominated North India came into being through conquest. Other five, which include dynasties like Khiljis, Tughlaqs, Suris etc, grabbed power by dint of Coups, not conquest. So, "Muslim rule or Muslim Powers" and "conquests" are not synonymous. Ghatus ( talk) 05:21, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
You haven't noticed this insertion of Punjab [18], have you? - Kautilya3 ( talk) 09:37, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
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Regarding Capitals00's edit here. The source is unverifiable, via google books, and I found nothing about Arif Haroon after a quick search. My concern lies with the reliability of the source. Figured you might know something about the author or source. Thanks. -- Kansas Bear ( talk) 18:00, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
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Please note that there is an ongoing discussion on Talk:Subhas Chandra Bose and the page will soon be reorganized. We would welcome your comments on the talk page, but would be grateful if you would hold off making major edits for now, as the reorganizing process will become harder and more confusing. Thanks for reducing the captions of the images! Best regards, Fowler&fowler «Talk» 13:11, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus, glad to see you back! We are debating the issues of slavery at Dasa and Religion and slavery. Hope to see your expertise help us there. - Kautilya3 ( talk) 09:50, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
You are mentioned here [19], in regards to the dispute in the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971 in the arbitration request noticeboard. Xtremedood ( talk) 02:21, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
Dear, Ghatus. This is to inform you that, Indo-Pakistani War of 1971 has been vandalised again by bunch of pakistani POV warriors. You are an experienced editor, so its my humble request to you, to revert edits by those POV pushers on Indo-Pakistani War of 1971. thanks. 101.60.155.226 ( talk) 09:33, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
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Please reply to the on-gooing dispute at Talk:Indo-Pakistani War of 1971. 14.98.84.194 ( talk) 05:09, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
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Hi Ghatus, please don't do big reverts like that. They are very demoralising to the editors and only help to inflame opinions. Three editors are currently under ARBIPA sanctions. You risk getting there too if you act in this way. Please feel free to open talk page discussions. Cheers, Kautilya3 ( talk) 15:31, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus, you might have noticed that MBlaze Lightning has gotten blocked for having socked. There is now an ongoing effort to revert all of his edits. Please look through these reverts and make sure that they are proper. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 12:00, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
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Hello. I tried posting this before but seems to be edit conflict or soemthing lol. Anyway here goes. We both seem to be going around in circles biting at each other over petty little things. So how about we do something about this bad faith eh? I see that you are interested in South Asia, and you can see that so am I so lets create an article together about the old history of the subcontinent, something without politics, about agriculture, some history article perhaps or even one about the environment. We can use my sandbox for this article, feel free to edit it as you wish. I will let you decide whichever article you want to pick and we can work on it before getting it into mainspace. FreeatlastChitchat ( talk) 09:16, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus, it seems that you feel quite strongly about this issue [20]. However note that calling it a "fact" does not settle the matter. Different people might see different "facts" and Wikipedia is not an investigation agency or a court of law to determine whose facts are actually facts. RfC's are indeed the established mechanism on Wikipedia to determine the appropriate content. So "withdrawing from the RfC" isn't productive. Please calm down and get an understanding of how Wikipedia works. Pinging Joshua Jonathan and RegentsPark to offer further advice. Cheers, Kautilya3 ( talk) 12:41, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Relax, relax, relax. Wikipedia has seen hundreds of battles like this one. So has the Indian subcontinent. I started this RfC in order to calm things down. If some people want to bet their life on it, let them. You don't need to do it as well. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 13:35, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
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Hi Ghatus, I don't know why you are wasting time on this. We can't do anything sensible until better facts are available. We have better things to do than fight over this. Cheers, Kautilya3 ( talk) 18:17, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
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Hi Ghatus, your historical expertise would be useful here. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 13:33, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
I am sitting here listening to Radio XL and the Pakistani compere is taking requests from Hindu ladies, whose names he can't figure out ("Saudamini"), but nevertheless admiring their choice of songs. That is real world. I look at my screen and find this nationalist-fundamentalist bullshit. This is the Internet world. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 19:40, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Interesting guy [21]. I am looking forward to his book, apparently called "Jinnah's orphans." -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 11:22, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
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Can you prove I made a mathematical error on the China Pakistan Economic Corridor page? or that I've reached an irrational or illogical conclusion? Because such basic calculations do NOT appear to contradict Wikipedia's own stated standards regarding OR. Willard84 ( talk) 17:06, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
same OR here on China–Pakistan Economic Corridor (Section- Comparison to Chabahar Port) added by Willard84. Do delete OR and irrelevant materials. Thanks, -- ArghyaIndian ( talk) 07:27, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
The article is POV from top to bottom, Pakistan POV has been presented as NPOV and the Indian government and Iranian president statements have been deleted on blatantly spurious grounds. -- ArghyaIndian ( talk) 05:10, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
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That is a funny question to ask, and I know that all of India's liberals will jump up and down and say I am wrong. But, come on, we know that Indian nationalism always had a large dose of Hindu nationalism in it, to the extent of having a borderline Hindu nationalist as a deputy PM, who let RSS off the hook and paved the way for RSS pracharaks to eventually become PMs themselves. RSS can participate in politics as long as they do so via Congress, according to him. They basically laughed it off. And, Indira Gandhi was essentially a Hindu nationalist by the end of her career, and PV was no better. I know that, domestically, India needs to be secular, and it can't survive without secularism. But it doesn't seem like India has a right to brandish secularism as an ideological weapon to the rest of the world or even to India's Muslims, especially Kashmir's Muslims, who actually have a better record of secularism than we do. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 22:19, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
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You mean that the sources are not provided? The Wiki-links do work. "Archaic" and "outdated" betrays a lack of understanding. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 20:11, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus, I didn't understand why you did this revert [1]. I think that sentence has been there for a while. It would be more productive if you open discussions on the talk page rather than reverting edits. My principle is, don't revert anything unless the edit was totally totally wrong. That is not the case here. Anyway, please look under "Sources" for the sources that have been cited. Cheers, Kautilya3 ( talk) 13:25, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus, would you have the expertise to cross check the recent edits to the Somanath page [2]? We will need to work on cleaning it up at some stage but, for the time being, let us at least make sure that it doesn't get any worse. Cheers, Kautilya3 ( talk) 13:11, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi, Could you please upload a Flag/logo for the Bharatiya Janata Party article. There was a logo but unfortunately it was delete due to license issue. Therefore, please upload valid license logo for BJP make sure its in SVG format and uploaded in commons section, so that it can be put in other languages as well. Thank You-- ♥ Kkm010 ♥ ♪ Talk ♪ ߷ ♀ Contribs ♀ 13:30, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus, can you please do discussions on the talk pages instead of the edit summaries? It is so much more civilized that way! Cheers, Kautilya3 ( talk) 18:25, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
See /info/en/?search=History_of_India#Vedic_period_.281750_BCE_-_500_BCE.29 and on the left, there are two templates, that's why you don't have to insert maps outside the template when they are already inserted inside. Bladesmulti ( talk) 14:36, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
@ Joshua Jonathan , do have a look at History of India page. It seems that there is a problem/resistance to depict/insert the Aryan Migration template in clear pictures.That's why @ Bladesmulti is insisting to keep a floating template you inserted on 13th Jan only. Look into the matter and I have nothing more to see or do.But, I have seen such tendencies before also to Aryan migration theory.I can not revert anymore. It was better before 13th Jan. Thanks. Ghatus ( talk) 04:38, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus, is there a historian called V. K. Agnihotri? His book is being cited on a host of pages like this one [3], which look quite flakey to me. Kautilya3 ( talk) 14:14, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the thanks! Highly appreciated. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 13:56, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
Most of what you had recovered back to the page, [4] it was removed by a user as it was copied from here. Bladesmulti ( talk) 07:28, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
@ Bladesmulti, if there is copyright problem, change the language then. No need to delete the section. Ghatus ( talk) 11:36, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
This source does not appear to be reliable, not to mention you copy & pasted from it which is plagiarism. Also, the paragraph you plagiarized does not appear to be supported by The Life and Works of Sultan Alauddin Khalji, by Ghulam Sarwar Khan Niazi. Therefore, since you have plagiarized this paragraph, I will be removing it. Please do not re-add said plagiarism or unreliable source, since this would be a violation of policy. -- Kansas Bear ( talk) 18:36, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
None can hide history. Proper sources are given. One can find in any book on alauddin Khilji the killing of "New Muslims". Even, page number is given in OUP book. Have changed the language totally. Oxford University Press is not an unreliable source. Ghatus ( talk) 04:21, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
You're right! And point 4, "The impact of the "Aryans" [...] on the formation of a race or nation" is the most interesting point. The Kuru Kingdom is most relevant in this respect, since that's the place and the time when the "Vedic fold" was formed, which has enveloped most of India, it's culture, and it's societal organisation. These two sources were highly informative for me, on this topic:
Best regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 06:46, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus, I hadn't noticed that you had removed my tags [5]. Please check now what the other sources say. You should note that the Sangh Parivar fans always want to create Wiki pages based on what the organisations say. They don't believe in third party sources. All such articles should be tagged just like I did. Cheers, Kautilya3 ( talk) 20:43, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
Maratha's lost many engagements during 1680-1707, however you are removing the battles in which Maratha's lost against the Mughals, which demonstrates clear bias and is a violation of Wikipedia's NPOV policy. You have been warned. Xtremedood ( talk) 03:03, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus. I don't know if you've got access to scientific journals, but this article may be of interest to you. Best regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 05:51, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
"The early beginnings of the Indian systems of philosophy take us back to the pre-Buddhist era. They develop gradually, the Brahminical systems side by side with the Buddhist, often criticizing each other, often borrowing from one another. Before the beginning of the Christian era, six Brahminical systems had taken shape and crystallized themselves, out of the welter of many such systems. Each one of them represents an independent approach, a separate argument, and yet they were not isolated from each other but rather parts of a larger plan.
The six systems are known as: (1) Nyaya, (2) Vaishesika, (3) Samkhya, (4) Yoga, (5) Mimamsa, and (6) Vedanta...
...The next system (here Fifth) of philosophy is known as the Mimamsa. This is ritualistic and tends towards polytheism. Modern popular Hinduism as well as Hindu Law have been largely influenced by this system and its rules which lay down the dharma or the scheme of right living as conceived by it. It might be noted that the poly-theism of the Hindus is of a curious variety, for the devas, the shining ones or gods, for all their special powers are supposed to be of a lower order of creation than man. Both the Hindus and Buddhists believe that human birth is the highest stage that the Being has reached on the road to self-realization. Even the devas can only achieve this freedom and realization through human birth. This conception is evidently far removed from normal polytheism. Buddhists say that only man can attain the supreme consummation of Buddhahood...'"
Ghatus ( talk) 06:23, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
For "destroying Buddhism," see http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/kumaarila/. And for Advaita practice, see N. Dalal (2009), Contemplative practice and textual Agency in Advaita Vedanta. My point is: India's intellectual history may be much more complex than we all realise, or are even able to know. "Historicity," being aware of historicity, is an aspect of this (lack of) awareness & knowledge. I'm bothering Gathus with this because of his interest in history; somehow he made me aware of the importance of being aware of historicity, and a possible lack of such a notion with some Indian editors. Best regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 09:29, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
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Gentlemen, thanks for the nice conversation. Plaeae have a cup of tea! Best regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 10:20, 1 April 2015 (UTC) |
Thank you for contributing there. But you really don't have to add separate headings like you did here. It also speaks about your knowledge of WP:ARE and how they are formatted. Thank you. OccultZone ( Talk • Contributions • Log) 12:05, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus, these guys say all our standard history is still colonial: [6]. What do you think? Kautilya3 ( talk) 18:46, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for your contributions. I would request you not to use WP:TW on good faith edits like you did here. Please also read " when to use rollback". Thank you. OccultZone ( Talk • Contributions • Log) 15:40, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Are you sure about this? [8] Most of our historian friends think the Arabs were preoccupied with the Byzantium and didn't have the resources to open another front in India. Trying reading the Jethmalani article that I cited yesterday. [1] Cheers, Kautilya3 ( talk) 13:38, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
It seems like a fairy tale. History taught me that every imperial power, as rightly uttered by Akbar, has to go for conquest or they will be conquered. This part can not be true - "Umar, the second Rashid of the Rashidun Caliphate was opposed to attacking India, even when he was told that "Indian rivers are pearls, her mountains rubies, her trees perfumes," for he regarded India as a country of complete freedom of thought and belief where Muslims and others were free to practice their faith." It seems like a propaganda. Ghatus ( talk) 14:24, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
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He seems like a genius. See [10]. I am surprised we don't have more about him on Wikipedia. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 13:26, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
@ Kautilya3:, I will respond/reply after 20th May. My exam is on from 11th to 20th.:-) Ghatus ( talk) 14:42, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus, can I urge you to be nice to the newbies? We need good new editors who can battle the POV-pushers. We should mentor them to become productive. Blanket reverts like this [11] will either demoralise them or turn them into edit-warriors themselves. Please check the talk page, where I have had a discussion with the editor, and he self-reverted a lot of the changes he did. If there are still remaining problems with his edit, please explain them to him, either on the article talk page or his personal talk page. - Kautilya3 ( talk) 08:43, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
BTW, have you seen my responses in Mahmud of Ghazni talk page. The whole article is a communal propaganda and it needs to be re-written. Ghatus ( talk) 08:53, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi, You have reverted my edits in Indian Armed Forces page and noted to discuss. I have tried to provide citations which are most authentic i.e Ministry of Home Affairs' Office Memorandum for CAPFs nomenclature, ICG history from their official website.. I am not sure how to discuss and where to discuss. I am new to wikipedia talks. Please direct/advise me to take to discuss page. I will be much grateful for your assistance. Thanks Hvvk89 ( talk) 07:32, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
Kautilya3 & Ghatus Thanks. I will do it. Hvvk89 ( talk) 11:55, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
Have a look to [ [13]] The two users [Faizan,Mar4d] misused the rollback rights. They'd been making unnecessary reverts and pushing there POV on the article! I will request you to pls visit this article: [ [14]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.245.158.109 ( talk) 09:08, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
Dear Ghatus! Please read this and add few points to the indo-Pak air war of 1965! This source also can helpful in correcting WP:FICTREF claims in other indo-Pak articles! Thanks 101.60.204.248 ( talk) 13:13, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
You are engaged in an edit war on page Indo-Pakistani War of 1965 within same contents since two days 1 2 3 and you do not want to discuss on talk page. Its clear violation of WP:AVOIDEDITWAR. BTW per WP:BALANCE Neutrality assigns weight to viewpoints in proportion to their prominence. However, when reputable sources contradict one another and are relatively equal in prominence per WP:BALANCE. 1965 War was not Indian Victory. Since many sources describe the war as Pakistan Victory, Indian Victory, Draw, Stalemate and Inconclusive so there is source contradict and are relatively equal in prominence. So I have to undo your revert per WP:BALANCE . HIAS ( talk) 16:54, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
@ Kautilya3:, @ Faizan: Sorry for the delay. I was busy in some works. So, here the point is whether a pic of Pak Army capturing a fort in R'stan should be inserted or not in addition to the existence of a similar kind of a photo already in the specific section.
Hi, Any idea how to change the armed forces components in Portal:Military of India It is semi-protected and only autoconfirmed users can edit it. Thanks Hvvk89 ( talk) 17:18, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus, You reverted edits on Indo-Pakistan war of 1965 referring to the talk page. But the talk page has unanswered comments by Wikibaba. Can you answer them please? - Kautilya3 ( talk) 10:21, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus, you can bookmark this link [16] and use it for generating full citations from Google Books urls. It is a lot more professional than plain URL's. Cheers, Kautilya3 ( talk) 11:44, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
[ https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=History_of_India&curid=13890&diff=686651307&oldid=686650507 Vandalism?] Neh... Could be worse, much worse. Best, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 13:48, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus. I've taken the liberty to add MiszaBot to your talkpage. The first archive will be created automatically tomorrow. Best regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 05:46, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
Hey Ghatus, Can you please have a look to this " Indo-Pakistani War of 1965 ? Have a look to the recent POV Addition by one of the Pakistani editor "Wikibaba1977" ! "According to neutral assessments and the most recent estimates Pakistan held 1600 square miles of Indian territory ( 1300 of it in dessert ) while India holding 350 square miles of Pakistan territory but of greater strategic value in Lahore , Sialkot and Kashmir Sector[50][51][52][53]" ! Please check the reliability of the sources given..... MBlaze Lightning ( talk) 05:17, 3 November 2015 (UTC) MBlaze Lightning ( talk) 05:17, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
And have a look to this too [17] "A Pakistan another bias and obvious fake claim ? MBlaze Lightning ( talk) 05:29, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
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Suppose Delhi had developed an Islamic community, which eventually grew powerful enough to take over the surrounding kingdoms. Then you would call it the "rise of Muslim powers." But that is not what happened. The Muslim rulers from the surrounding regions of India came to conquer. Should it be called a "Muslim conquest," i.e., was religion a factor? The answer is again yes, because the Turko-Persian literature of the time is full of Islamist ideology. - Kautilya3 ( talk) 10:04, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Yes, it was indeed a "conquest" in 1206. But, it was not the only conquest to single out. More than a dozen of such conquests took place in the preceding 2000 years having profound impacts. Either mention them all or mention them not at all. Again, only 2 out of 7 Muslim dynasties that dominated North India came into being through conquest. Other five, which include dynasties like Khiljis, Tughlaqs, Suris etc, grabbed power by dint of Coups, not conquest. So, "Muslim rule or Muslim Powers" and "conquests" are not synonymous. Ghatus ( talk) 05:21, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
You haven't noticed this insertion of Punjab [18], have you? - Kautilya3 ( talk) 09:37, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
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Regarding Capitals00's edit here. The source is unverifiable, via google books, and I found nothing about Arif Haroon after a quick search. My concern lies with the reliability of the source. Figured you might know something about the author or source. Thanks. -- Kansas Bear ( talk) 18:00, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
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Please note that there is an ongoing discussion on Talk:Subhas Chandra Bose and the page will soon be reorganized. We would welcome your comments on the talk page, but would be grateful if you would hold off making major edits for now, as the reorganizing process will become harder and more confusing. Thanks for reducing the captions of the images! Best regards, Fowler&fowler «Talk» 13:11, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus, glad to see you back! We are debating the issues of slavery at Dasa and Religion and slavery. Hope to see your expertise help us there. - Kautilya3 ( talk) 09:50, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
You are mentioned here [19], in regards to the dispute in the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971 in the arbitration request noticeboard. Xtremedood ( talk) 02:21, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
Dear, Ghatus. This is to inform you that, Indo-Pakistani War of 1971 has been vandalised again by bunch of pakistani POV warriors. You are an experienced editor, so its my humble request to you, to revert edits by those POV pushers on Indo-Pakistani War of 1971. thanks. 101.60.155.226 ( talk) 09:33, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
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Please reply to the on-gooing dispute at Talk:Indo-Pakistani War of 1971. 14.98.84.194 ( talk) 05:09, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
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Hi Ghatus, please don't do big reverts like that. They are very demoralising to the editors and only help to inflame opinions. Three editors are currently under ARBIPA sanctions. You risk getting there too if you act in this way. Please feel free to open talk page discussions. Cheers, Kautilya3 ( talk) 15:31, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus, you might have noticed that MBlaze Lightning has gotten blocked for having socked. There is now an ongoing effort to revert all of his edits. Please look through these reverts and make sure that they are proper. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 12:00, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
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Hello. I tried posting this before but seems to be edit conflict or soemthing lol. Anyway here goes. We both seem to be going around in circles biting at each other over petty little things. So how about we do something about this bad faith eh? I see that you are interested in South Asia, and you can see that so am I so lets create an article together about the old history of the subcontinent, something without politics, about agriculture, some history article perhaps or even one about the environment. We can use my sandbox for this article, feel free to edit it as you wish. I will let you decide whichever article you want to pick and we can work on it before getting it into mainspace. FreeatlastChitchat ( talk) 09:16, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi Ghatus, it seems that you feel quite strongly about this issue [20]. However note that calling it a "fact" does not settle the matter. Different people might see different "facts" and Wikipedia is not an investigation agency or a court of law to determine whose facts are actually facts. RfC's are indeed the established mechanism on Wikipedia to determine the appropriate content. So "withdrawing from the RfC" isn't productive. Please calm down and get an understanding of how Wikipedia works. Pinging Joshua Jonathan and RegentsPark to offer further advice. Cheers, Kautilya3 ( talk) 12:41, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Relax, relax, relax. Wikipedia has seen hundreds of battles like this one. So has the Indian subcontinent. I started this RfC in order to calm things down. If some people want to bet their life on it, let them. You don't need to do it as well. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 13:35, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
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Hi Ghatus, I don't know why you are wasting time on this. We can't do anything sensible until better facts are available. We have better things to do than fight over this. Cheers, Kautilya3 ( talk) 18:17, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
I notice that you have gotten into trouble at WP:ANI as well as WP:AN3 for edit-warring at Kulbhushan Yadav. I can stick my neck out and support you, provided you promise to stay away from this page. You are valuable editor, and we need you, with a clean block record!-- Kautilya3 ( talk) 19:35, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
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Hi Ghatus, your historical expertise would be useful here. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 13:33, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
I am sitting here listening to Radio XL and the Pakistani compere is taking requests from Hindu ladies, whose names he can't figure out ("Saudamini"), but nevertheless admiring their choice of songs. That is real world. I look at my screen and find this nationalist-fundamentalist bullshit. This is the Internet world. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 19:40, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Interesting guy [21]. I am looking forward to his book, apparently called "Jinnah's orphans." -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 11:22, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
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Can you prove I made a mathematical error on the China Pakistan Economic Corridor page? or that I've reached an irrational or illogical conclusion? Because such basic calculations do NOT appear to contradict Wikipedia's own stated standards regarding OR. Willard84 ( talk) 17:06, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
same OR here on China–Pakistan Economic Corridor (Section- Comparison to Chabahar Port) added by Willard84. Do delete OR and irrelevant materials. Thanks, -- ArghyaIndian ( talk) 07:27, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
The article is POV from top to bottom, Pakistan POV has been presented as NPOV and the Indian government and Iranian president statements have been deleted on blatantly spurious grounds. -- ArghyaIndian ( talk) 05:10, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
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That is a funny question to ask, and I know that all of India's liberals will jump up and down and say I am wrong. But, come on, we know that Indian nationalism always had a large dose of Hindu nationalism in it, to the extent of having a borderline Hindu nationalist as a deputy PM, who let RSS off the hook and paved the way for RSS pracharaks to eventually become PMs themselves. RSS can participate in politics as long as they do so via Congress, according to him. They basically laughed it off. And, Indira Gandhi was essentially a Hindu nationalist by the end of her career, and PV was no better. I know that, domestically, India needs to be secular, and it can't survive without secularism. But it doesn't seem like India has a right to brandish secularism as an ideological weapon to the rest of the world or even to India's Muslims, especially Kashmir's Muslims, who actually have a better record of secularism than we do. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 22:19, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
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Could you check the edits of Ayonpradhan? They seem to be adding arbitrary links to certain articles. -- Kansas Bear ( talk) 06:42, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
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It's been almost an year since " Indian collaboration of the month" was active. Firstly we need to restart this as soon as possible for development of India-related articles to greater heights. The members page was blanked, where many of them are inactive. This mass message is to all the members of WikiProject India, about this and interested editors interested will sign up. After this message gets delivered, we'll wait for 7 days before we start a discussion under a thread on the collaboration's talk page, among the members. The discussion will include what to clean-up of sub-pages, a new set of guidelines for smooth and uninterrupted functioning of the collaboration etc. Please keep all the discussions under this thread only, so that it will easier for future reference. MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 00:19, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
It's been almost an year since " Indian collaboration of the month" was active. Firstly we need to restart this as soon as possible for development of India-related articles to greater heights. The members page was blanked, where many of them are inactive. This mass message is to all the members of WikiProject India, about this and interested editors interested will sign up. After this message gets delivered, we'll wait for 7 days before we start a discussion under a thread on the collaboration's talk page, among the members. The discussion will include what to clean-up of sub-pages, a new set of guidelines for smooth and uninterrupted functioning of the collaboration etc. Please keep all the discussions under this thread only, so that it will easier for future reference. MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 00:19, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
You are invited to join the Indian military history work-group, an initiative of the Military history WikiProject. This group is to exclusively deal with the topics related to Indian military. If you're interested, please add you name to the participants list. Ignore if you are already a member. MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 14:06, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
You are requested to participate in the discussion of Wiki Loves Indian defence services on the talk page of WikiProject India. MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 04:44, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi. You reverted my change to List of countries by military expenditures without providing a reason or leaving a comment in the relevant section of the talk page. Would you mind providing a reason here now? Pipping ( talk) 18:59, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
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It is being planned to organize Wikigraphists Bootcamp in India, please fill out the survey form to help the organizers. Your responses will help organizers understand what level of demand there is for the event (how many people in your community think it is important that the event happens). At the end of the day, the participants will turn out to have knowledge to create drawings, illustrations, diagrams, maps, graphs, bar charts etc. and get to know to how to tune the images to meet the QI and FP criteria. For more information and link to survey form, please visit Talk:Wikigraphists Bootcamp (2018 India). MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 12:46, 15 January 2018 (UTC)