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I was just watching the Colbert Report when I realized that the update of the template might create an interesting issue. Previously, we have either slapped the pages with the airport and structure templates, and then called it a day. Sometimes there would be disagreement about what should be there, but no one was harmed. Now, we have the ability to slap one tag on the page, which is fine for installations that own the runways, but what do you think we should do for Air Guard bases and other installations which are co-located at the installation, but do not operate the installations outright? Should we create a guideline that explains this, because I see no reason why Mansfield Lahm Air National Guard Base should have runway information, while that information is already located on the airport civilian page, and thus would be redundant. @ Bwmoll3:, you might also might want to chime in here. Kevin Rutherford ( talk) 04:50, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Sorry about that, didn't realize it was a redirect. Hamish59 ( talk) 22:24, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
Gavbadger Hi. I am hoping that this is the correct method of dropping you a line to pose some puzzlers but I cannot be certain, being such a newcomer to the editor versions of wikipedia. My question(s): I have been adding suggested amendments to talk pages of articles. Recently checking back through the (silent) responses, I realised that portal and project pages also have a form of article watchlists. An example: I have added a suggestion to a talk page. I am reticent to adjust the article, as I have suggested on the talk page, a/ because I am not sure that directly editing a page is advisable without confirmation from a third-party that the edit is acceptable, and b/ I now realise that project/portal articles talks, discussions can also feature on relevant portal/project pages, in this example . Should I edit the appropriate portal/project 'announcement and tasks' areas to highlight the discussions I have raised on talk pages to attract confirmations of accurate edits and further discussion, or is it advisable to go ahead with the edit and watch out for further discussion? Many thanks in advance Foxsch ( talk) 18:24, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
That's perfectly clear Gavbadger, thank you. Foxsch ( talk) 19:07, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi - I have toned down the ensign in the infobox in the Tidworth Camp article that I am working on. I note that according to Template talk:Infobox military installation the ensign is "optional" not mandatory. There are few things on wiki where it is mandatory to include it (other than references!). I just think it is a bit garish - just an opinion. Best wishes. Dormskirk ( talk) 00:19, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
My father-in-law was stationed at Danby Beacon and elsewhere supporting radar (particularly GEE) during wwII. He might have persona pictures of staff personnel that you'd want for your collection. If so, please drop me an email and tell me how we can send info to you... or I can send you his email address if you want to email directly.
Thanks... jrsnyder@pobox.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.151.140.191 ( talk) 20:13, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Apologies for the edit with the |controlledby =. I'm new at this and saw that controlled by being used at other 8th air force bases, and just thought it looked a lot better inside the box as the others were. Actually, those graphics at the top of the infobox seem to be a bit of a clutter, and would look better inside as well somewhere. Just a thought Connor P. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Connor7617 ( talk • contribs) 20:54, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
You're welcome and ty :) Connor7617 ( talk) 23:25, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
Hello, just wanted to say that you have been doing a great job creating articles related to the RAF, but you might want to apply for Autopatrolled rights so you don't spam the new pages feed. Thanks! Winner 42 Talk to me! 22:22, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Hello, on behalf of 167 Catering Support Regitment RLC we would be greatful if you could delete this page, as it no longer valid.
Thank you.
Good Day,
Thank you for your message. I have an issue with the attribution of the message which begins We have lots of new friends on the Falklands conflict page.
I worked for Cable and Wireless as an Engineer at the time and was the one who typed the message. It's always been wrong on Wiki. I am trying to put it right more for my children than anything.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6514011.stm
mentions this is this a suitable citation.
Grateful for any help or assistance you can give.
Kind regards
Charles Keenleyside Charlesk1953 ( talk) 19:50, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Just so you know (if you have not already been pinged), I nominated you for the Autopatrol user right here. I figure you might have some use for it, since you have created so many pages, and military articles are not controversial for the most part. Kevin Rutherford ( talk) 07:33, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi Gavbadger, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the patroller right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! — MusikAnimal talk 21:36, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
I think I used these sites
http://www.orbat.info/history/historical/uk/gulforbat1990.html
http://www.raf.mod.uk/history/BritishForcesinvolvedinOperationGranby.cfm
http://es.rice.edu/projects/Poli378/Gulf/gwtxt_ch8.html
you can add the links. Phd8511 ( talk) 12:49, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you'are the person to pass this on to but the above page claims that "Barnbow was Britain's top shell factory between 1914 and 1918, and by the end of the war on 11 November 1918, a total of 566,000 tons of ammunition had been shipped overseas." Chilwell filling factory's memorial quotes over 1 million tons filled so maybe a small edit is in order.
Mark Wilson — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.147.242.223 ( talk) 08:51, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
Gavbadger,
I appreciate that you have taken an interest in the school and your concern is noted.
The changes I have made are legitimate. I am updating the page to reflect the current situation at the school, in a more official capacity.
I am at present, updating the page on behalf of the schools Officer Commanding, so will be making more changes in the not so distant future. The information that will be placed on the page will be relevant, and will not be harmful in any respect.
Again, thanks for your concern.
gbinfi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gbinfi ( talk • contribs) 13:25, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
Surely this name is out of date and we should update it to the new name and update info? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.2.147.21 ( talk) 16:14, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
You do RAF units, and appear to keep current with AFM. Can you winkle out anywhere an up-to-date unit list for 38 Group? Buckshot06 (talk) 19:17, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for all your hard work on the AVMF. Unfortunately AFM is not reliable in this area - a better source can be seen in the extensive pages of Michael Holm, drawing on many Russian sources [3] and Sources. I've made amendments to the 100 and 279 OKIAP listings in line with that information. Tally Ho!! Buckshot06 (talk) 20:54, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi, I was wondering why you merged 8 Flight ACC into 658 Squadron AAC. These are two different AAC units. 658 Squadron AAC has its own history . I would have kept the 8 Flight article stating that it had been disbanded/re-designated as 658 Sqn. 658 Sqn was re-raised after it had been disbanded on 1 April 2009 when it was then part of the 7 Regiment AAC (Volunteers). The 658 Squadron AAC article history section should only be on the 658 in the AAC. At present it has the history of No. 8 Independent Reconnaissance Flight AAC and 8 Flight AAC and also has a section for history of the 658 Sqn ACC. Regards, -- Melbguy05 ( talk) 20:15, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi gavbadger, thank you for your welcome, I’m alittle confused at your message re conflict of interest, my edits have only been to provide users an accurate picture of what the current status is at Bruntingthorpe/Cold war Jets Collection and particularly the Classic British Jets Collection which is one of several aviation preservation groups based a Bruntingthorpe. My only interest is proving users better info and hopefully encourage them to visit Bruntingthorpe and support the aircraft/volunteers based there preserving the aircraft for the future.
Kind regards Mark Classic British Jets Collection ( talk) 14:19, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
Just checking with you if 1989 Portuguese Army order of battle is also a copyright violation? Look at the reference.
Thanks
Sammartinlai ( talk) 04:46, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
Is it acceptable or shoud it go for an AfD?
Asking since you deal more with army historical stuff.
Thanks
Sammartinlai ( talk) 04:12, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
I've got hold of another gold-standard source which you will see I've referenced at No. 3 Squadron IqAF and List of Iraqi Air Force aircraft squadrons. Both several books by Tom Cooper, and this Israeli intelligence analyst Malovany make clear that Iraqi squadrons were designated by ordinals (3rd) rather than cardinals (No. 3) in line with Commonwealth practice. In line with WP:MILMOS#UNITNAME I believe we should reflect that, and thus I am going to move them to '3rd Squadron' rather than 'No. 3 Squadron'. Since you were the original creator though and put some hard work into creating the articles in the first place, I thought I would drop a courtesy note to you. Hope that's all clear. Kind regards Buckshot06 (talk) 09:50, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Given that Combat Aviation Brigade, 10th Mountain Division is a GA, and that the naming has been dicussed on its talk page, albiet with no clear consensus and some time ago, and there there was no move proposal that I can see, i am not going nto delete 10th Combat Aviation Brigade, and do a move. Please start a move discussion, I would think on Talk:Combat Aviation Brigade, 10th Mountain Division. If there is consensus for a move, or at least afte a week or moe no opposition, then you might try again. Until then G6 speedy delete declined. DES (talk) DESiegel Contribs 22:49, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
The same applies to Combat Aviation Brigade, 101st Airborne Division another undiscussed move. DES (talk) DESiegel Contribs 22:52, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
There are many references to Lake 1999 in there, but you didn't give the full citation. Would you mind adding it? Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 04:36, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
I just tried setting it out with Child groups and lists. I think it makes the different groups of units clearer but what do you think? I believe the colour of the sub groups can be turned off. GraemeLeggett ( talk) 20:01, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, I hadn't read your request properly. I missed that you'd checked the same Halley as I did. I honestly did not intend to embarrass you or show you up. As I found three references, on re-reading, I was keen for you to know there was no malice in my reply on the Military WikiProject talk page. Regards. The joy of all things ( talk) 17:36, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
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Please, please stop creating redirects for tiny, tiny, RAF subunits and flights like this that will never likely in 50 years even have enough data for an article, because there's not enough mention of them in WP:RELIABLESOURCES. Much much better just to create the list articles, and leave the data there; or put the data in a higher-unit or base article, like I am doing wherever I find an OTU that never moved bases. 2861 LAA Regiment RAF Regt would be a good article, worth creating, that could have mention of every subordinate flight that got merged into it. A regiment is much more likely to have had things written about it than a shortlived LAA flight. Creating large numbers of redirects that don't provide much more data at the referred page does not add to the encyclopedic value of the site, much; it just creates redirects that we have to categorize and administer.. Buckshot06 (talk) 13:43, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for your efforts at editing Southend airport. I am wondering whether listing every single RAF unit that was at Southend at some point might be going too far for most readers of the Southend airport page. By all means discuss the presence of the RAF at Southend, but perhaps we could list just the units which spent a significant amount of time at an airfield rather than a brief presence ? It would at least ensure that the info provided is notable. There is a huge amount of military aviation history info (as well as other info about Southend airport, eg all about the terminal construction process) that could be provided... unfortunately wikipedia's generalist nature means it can't hold all the specialist details. Pmbma ( talk) 22:10, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
Dear Gavbadger you created a redirect for the 55th Independent Helicopter Regiment on 22 May 2016, but it only pointed to Korenovsk, no doubt what was reported as the regiment's base at the time. There was no data added about the regiment to the Korenovsk article. There is much more data on the regiment available at 4th Air and Air Defence Forces Army. The regiment is now fighting in Ukraine, and our watchers there have added it to the order of battle at Order of battle for the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. I have just linked the redirect. It would be much better if there was actually an article attached to the redirect, which could be set up, even as a simple one line stub, with the information available at https://www.ww2.dk/new/air%20force/regiment/ovp/55ovp.htm.
A similar page at https://www.ww2.dk/new/air%20force/regiment/ovp/487ovp.htm is also available if you could create a starter article for 487th Independent Helicopter Regiment, which you set up in the same manner on 2 May 2016. Buckshot06 (talk) 23:50, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
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Hi, in this edit you introduced an sfn reference "Marshall 1990", unfortunately you didn't define the reference. I suspect it will be Marshall, Chris (1990). The World's Great Military Helicopters. New York City: Gallery Books. ISBN 0-8317-9679-0. but do not have it to check. If you could check this and fix the article that would be great. DuncanHill ( talk) 21:55, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
Hello @ Gavbadger, I've edited your recent changes to RAF Edzell, specifically the location. I've used the location of Edzell Woods which lies immediately adjacent to the former airfield and was the location for housing on the base. These changes are all consistent with the wider location of Aberdeenshire. Obviously the fact that the base shares the name of the nearby village in a neghbouring county has slightly complicated matters but I believe the above change should provide sufficient clarity that all can agree on. Would be happy to discuss further if you have other thoughts on the matter. Regards, Stroness ( talk) 20:40, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
Dear Gavbadger I have just restored the Category:Russian Air Force bases to this page. You were absolutely right, the data on the page when you removed the category showed no indication that the RuAF had actively used the aerodrome after 1992. But when I saw what you had done, I wondered whether Michael Holm's excellent site held any more clues. So I ran a search string, "Slavgorod site:www.ww2.dk/new/" in Google, and yes, it was a training aviation regiment site for the Barnaul Higher Military Aviation School of Pilots in the Siberian Military District. B.Velikov had actually already added it to the Siberian MD page. So please consider, as you amend the Soviet/Russian airbase pages, checking Michael Holm's site in the same way. It's based off the best Russian book sources that he could source, and he has had extensive discussions with some of the book authors. Buckshot06 (talk) 05:42, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
How carefully did you check the reverts you have just made here? Among other things, the Brigade des pompiers de l’air is carefully referenced to an official source of 10 September 2021. Buckshot06 (talk) 11:01, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
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Dear Gavbadger this organization was not a brigade.
The categories appropriate to it are Category:Aviation units and formations of the United States Army and Category:Groups of the United States Army.
If you have a unclear situation with an article and you cannot exactly determine which correct category it goes in, please, do not hesitate to seek my or other third party advice. Buckshot06 (talk) 22:40, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
There is absolutely zero requirement for an infobox name to match the article page name. As per all other Wikipedia infoboxes, the infobox title should match the full correct legal name of the entity. Militum professio scriniarii ( talk) 16:00, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
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Where is the consensus for the mass changes to reference format you are making with no or misleading edit summaries - such as [ [4]], [ [5]] and [ [6]] where you removed the forenames of authors. Where does it say that authors' first names should be replaced by initials? How do these edits comply with WP:CITEVAR. Nigel Ish ( talk) 17:29, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
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I saw that you had been doing some reformatting of lists of aircraft in aviation museum article. I tend to disagree with these changes, so I reverted them ( AZ, SMAM, YAM). However, I didn't want to get into an edit war or cause any hard feelings, so I figured I would lay out my arguments for retaining the existing format so that we could try to develop some sort of consensus.
Including the year introduced, type and "developed from" information seems to be rather excessive and unnecessary detail for this type of article as this information can be found by simply clicking the internal link on each entry. As I argued in my proposal for a standardized table for aircraft manufacturer articles, the list of aircraft should be a summary of the aircraft in the collection, not a detailed breakdown. If any additional information is to be included, it should be relevant to the overall subject of the article. I could potentially see some sort of utility for year introduced and type, since they could help show relationships between aircraft, but none at all for "developed from". However, I am still inclined to argue that any details other than the model of aircraft is too much, since the goal of an aviation museum article is not to illustrate the history of aviation, but instead describe the museum.
Furthermore, the data tends to be a bit less comparable when the aircraft don't all have some sort of unifying characteristic such as being built by the same manufacturer or coming from the same time period. For instance, comparing a glider to a drone to single engine monoplane to a multirole fighter jet.
I know this is sort of a backwards argument coming from me, since I was the one who was arguing for standardized tables for aircraft manufacturer articles (which actually uses a similar format to your table), but in this case I am somewhat against it. (For more points, see my comments in the discussion about tables for surviving aircraft lists.) Using a table is not a bad idea, per se, but with no information other than the aircraft type, there is nothing that needs to be sorted. The only other bit of information that is worth including is the airframe identity, but given that there is not really any value in sorting it, it is not enough to justify the inclusion of a table.
Furthermore, they also don't accommodate non-sortable data well – such as notes like "replica" or "cockpit only". Yes, that can be placed in a "comments" or "notes" column, but it is less than ideal. Similarly, if this information is not available for all of the aircraft, then the section left with blank cells in the table.
Lastly, the tables both add extra whitespace and make the article significantly longer because there is no way to make them multi-column as is the case with the div col template.
Generally, I would argue that the lists shouldn't be broken up into separate sections except where strictly necessary. For example, in extreme cases where the collection is excessively large as is the case with the National Museum of the United States Air Force. Even then, the sections are divided by display location, not time period – although in this case they correspond with time period. (However, I do acknowledge that when aviation museums subdivide their collections "era" is the most common choice.) As a matter of fact, breaking up the list would seem to negate some of the advantage of tables, as the inability to work across subsections would prevent the main benefit of the sort function – comparison – from being fully utilized.
On this note, how to structure aviation museum articles so that they have a uniform look is something that I've struggled with for a while. To that end, I actually created a template just the other day as a culmination of the conventions I had been developing on the subject. It also functions as a remind of the areas that can be covered when starting a new article. Although the "collection" section is only one portion of that, please feel free to take a look at it if you like.
I realize the reverts I did can seem combative, so I just want to say I appreciate all of the hard work that went into your edits and apologize if they gave the wrong impression. I don't want to seem unreasonable and try to keep an open mind, so if you have arguments in favor of your format, I would very much like to hear them. – Noha307 ( talk) 02:36, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
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I was just watching the Colbert Report when I realized that the update of the template might create an interesting issue. Previously, we have either slapped the pages with the airport and structure templates, and then called it a day. Sometimes there would be disagreement about what should be there, but no one was harmed. Now, we have the ability to slap one tag on the page, which is fine for installations that own the runways, but what do you think we should do for Air Guard bases and other installations which are co-located at the installation, but do not operate the installations outright? Should we create a guideline that explains this, because I see no reason why Mansfield Lahm Air National Guard Base should have runway information, while that information is already located on the airport civilian page, and thus would be redundant. @ Bwmoll3:, you might also might want to chime in here. Kevin Rutherford ( talk) 04:50, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Sorry about that, didn't realize it was a redirect. Hamish59 ( talk) 22:24, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
Gavbadger Hi. I am hoping that this is the correct method of dropping you a line to pose some puzzlers but I cannot be certain, being such a newcomer to the editor versions of wikipedia. My question(s): I have been adding suggested amendments to talk pages of articles. Recently checking back through the (silent) responses, I realised that portal and project pages also have a form of article watchlists. An example: I have added a suggestion to a talk page. I am reticent to adjust the article, as I have suggested on the talk page, a/ because I am not sure that directly editing a page is advisable without confirmation from a third-party that the edit is acceptable, and b/ I now realise that project/portal articles talks, discussions can also feature on relevant portal/project pages, in this example . Should I edit the appropriate portal/project 'announcement and tasks' areas to highlight the discussions I have raised on talk pages to attract confirmations of accurate edits and further discussion, or is it advisable to go ahead with the edit and watch out for further discussion? Many thanks in advance Foxsch ( talk) 18:24, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
That's perfectly clear Gavbadger, thank you. Foxsch ( talk) 19:07, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi - I have toned down the ensign in the infobox in the Tidworth Camp article that I am working on. I note that according to Template talk:Infobox military installation the ensign is "optional" not mandatory. There are few things on wiki where it is mandatory to include it (other than references!). I just think it is a bit garish - just an opinion. Best wishes. Dormskirk ( talk) 00:19, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
My father-in-law was stationed at Danby Beacon and elsewhere supporting radar (particularly GEE) during wwII. He might have persona pictures of staff personnel that you'd want for your collection. If so, please drop me an email and tell me how we can send info to you... or I can send you his email address if you want to email directly.
Thanks... jrsnyder@pobox.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.151.140.191 ( talk) 20:13, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Apologies for the edit with the |controlledby =. I'm new at this and saw that controlled by being used at other 8th air force bases, and just thought it looked a lot better inside the box as the others were. Actually, those graphics at the top of the infobox seem to be a bit of a clutter, and would look better inside as well somewhere. Just a thought Connor P. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Connor7617 ( talk • contribs) 20:54, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
You're welcome and ty :) Connor7617 ( talk) 23:25, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
Hello, just wanted to say that you have been doing a great job creating articles related to the RAF, but you might want to apply for Autopatrolled rights so you don't spam the new pages feed. Thanks! Winner 42 Talk to me! 22:22, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Hello, on behalf of 167 Catering Support Regitment RLC we would be greatful if you could delete this page, as it no longer valid.
Thank you.
Good Day,
Thank you for your message. I have an issue with the attribution of the message which begins We have lots of new friends on the Falklands conflict page.
I worked for Cable and Wireless as an Engineer at the time and was the one who typed the message. It's always been wrong on Wiki. I am trying to put it right more for my children than anything.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6514011.stm
mentions this is this a suitable citation.
Grateful for any help or assistance you can give.
Kind regards
Charles Keenleyside Charlesk1953 ( talk) 19:50, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Just so you know (if you have not already been pinged), I nominated you for the Autopatrol user right here. I figure you might have some use for it, since you have created so many pages, and military articles are not controversial for the most part. Kevin Rutherford ( talk) 07:33, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi Gavbadger, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the patroller right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! — MusikAnimal talk 21:36, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
I think I used these sites
http://www.orbat.info/history/historical/uk/gulforbat1990.html
http://www.raf.mod.uk/history/BritishForcesinvolvedinOperationGranby.cfm
http://es.rice.edu/projects/Poli378/Gulf/gwtxt_ch8.html
you can add the links. Phd8511 ( talk) 12:49, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you'are the person to pass this on to but the above page claims that "Barnbow was Britain's top shell factory between 1914 and 1918, and by the end of the war on 11 November 1918, a total of 566,000 tons of ammunition had been shipped overseas." Chilwell filling factory's memorial quotes over 1 million tons filled so maybe a small edit is in order.
Mark Wilson — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.147.242.223 ( talk) 08:51, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
Gavbadger,
I appreciate that you have taken an interest in the school and your concern is noted.
The changes I have made are legitimate. I am updating the page to reflect the current situation at the school, in a more official capacity.
I am at present, updating the page on behalf of the schools Officer Commanding, so will be making more changes in the not so distant future. The information that will be placed on the page will be relevant, and will not be harmful in any respect.
Again, thanks for your concern.
gbinfi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gbinfi ( talk • contribs) 13:25, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
Surely this name is out of date and we should update it to the new name and update info? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.2.147.21 ( talk) 16:14, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
You do RAF units, and appear to keep current with AFM. Can you winkle out anywhere an up-to-date unit list for 38 Group? Buckshot06 (talk) 19:17, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for all your hard work on the AVMF. Unfortunately AFM is not reliable in this area - a better source can be seen in the extensive pages of Michael Holm, drawing on many Russian sources [3] and Sources. I've made amendments to the 100 and 279 OKIAP listings in line with that information. Tally Ho!! Buckshot06 (talk) 20:54, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi, I was wondering why you merged 8 Flight ACC into 658 Squadron AAC. These are two different AAC units. 658 Squadron AAC has its own history . I would have kept the 8 Flight article stating that it had been disbanded/re-designated as 658 Sqn. 658 Sqn was re-raised after it had been disbanded on 1 April 2009 when it was then part of the 7 Regiment AAC (Volunteers). The 658 Squadron AAC article history section should only be on the 658 in the AAC. At present it has the history of No. 8 Independent Reconnaissance Flight AAC and 8 Flight AAC and also has a section for history of the 658 Sqn ACC. Regards, -- Melbguy05 ( talk) 20:15, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi gavbadger, thank you for your welcome, I’m alittle confused at your message re conflict of interest, my edits have only been to provide users an accurate picture of what the current status is at Bruntingthorpe/Cold war Jets Collection and particularly the Classic British Jets Collection which is one of several aviation preservation groups based a Bruntingthorpe. My only interest is proving users better info and hopefully encourage them to visit Bruntingthorpe and support the aircraft/volunteers based there preserving the aircraft for the future.
Kind regards Mark Classic British Jets Collection ( talk) 14:19, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
Just checking with you if 1989 Portuguese Army order of battle is also a copyright violation? Look at the reference.
Thanks
Sammartinlai ( talk) 04:46, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
Is it acceptable or shoud it go for an AfD?
Asking since you deal more with army historical stuff.
Thanks
Sammartinlai ( talk) 04:12, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
I've got hold of another gold-standard source which you will see I've referenced at No. 3 Squadron IqAF and List of Iraqi Air Force aircraft squadrons. Both several books by Tom Cooper, and this Israeli intelligence analyst Malovany make clear that Iraqi squadrons were designated by ordinals (3rd) rather than cardinals (No. 3) in line with Commonwealth practice. In line with WP:MILMOS#UNITNAME I believe we should reflect that, and thus I am going to move them to '3rd Squadron' rather than 'No. 3 Squadron'. Since you were the original creator though and put some hard work into creating the articles in the first place, I thought I would drop a courtesy note to you. Hope that's all clear. Kind regards Buckshot06 (talk) 09:50, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Given that Combat Aviation Brigade, 10th Mountain Division is a GA, and that the naming has been dicussed on its talk page, albiet with no clear consensus and some time ago, and there there was no move proposal that I can see, i am not going nto delete 10th Combat Aviation Brigade, and do a move. Please start a move discussion, I would think on Talk:Combat Aviation Brigade, 10th Mountain Division. If there is consensus for a move, or at least afte a week or moe no opposition, then you might try again. Until then G6 speedy delete declined. DES (talk) DESiegel Contribs 22:49, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
The same applies to Combat Aviation Brigade, 101st Airborne Division another undiscussed move. DES (talk) DESiegel Contribs 22:52, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
There are many references to Lake 1999 in there, but you didn't give the full citation. Would you mind adding it? Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 04:36, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
I just tried setting it out with Child groups and lists. I think it makes the different groups of units clearer but what do you think? I believe the colour of the sub groups can be turned off. GraemeLeggett ( talk) 20:01, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
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Please, please stop creating redirects for tiny, tiny, RAF subunits and flights like this that will never likely in 50 years even have enough data for an article, because there's not enough mention of them in WP:RELIABLESOURCES. Much much better just to create the list articles, and leave the data there; or put the data in a higher-unit or base article, like I am doing wherever I find an OTU that never moved bases. 2861 LAA Regiment RAF Regt would be a good article, worth creating, that could have mention of every subordinate flight that got merged into it. A regiment is much more likely to have had things written about it than a shortlived LAA flight. Creating large numbers of redirects that don't provide much more data at the referred page does not add to the encyclopedic value of the site, much; it just creates redirects that we have to categorize and administer.. Buckshot06 (talk) 13:43, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for your efforts at editing Southend airport. I am wondering whether listing every single RAF unit that was at Southend at some point might be going too far for most readers of the Southend airport page. By all means discuss the presence of the RAF at Southend, but perhaps we could list just the units which spent a significant amount of time at an airfield rather than a brief presence ? It would at least ensure that the info provided is notable. There is a huge amount of military aviation history info (as well as other info about Southend airport, eg all about the terminal construction process) that could be provided... unfortunately wikipedia's generalist nature means it can't hold all the specialist details. Pmbma ( talk) 22:10, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
Dear Gavbadger you created a redirect for the 55th Independent Helicopter Regiment on 22 May 2016, but it only pointed to Korenovsk, no doubt what was reported as the regiment's base at the time. There was no data added about the regiment to the Korenovsk article. There is much more data on the regiment available at 4th Air and Air Defence Forces Army. The regiment is now fighting in Ukraine, and our watchers there have added it to the order of battle at Order of battle for the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. I have just linked the redirect. It would be much better if there was actually an article attached to the redirect, which could be set up, even as a simple one line stub, with the information available at https://www.ww2.dk/new/air%20force/regiment/ovp/55ovp.htm.
A similar page at https://www.ww2.dk/new/air%20force/regiment/ovp/487ovp.htm is also available if you could create a starter article for 487th Independent Helicopter Regiment, which you set up in the same manner on 2 May 2016. Buckshot06 (talk) 23:50, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
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Hi, in this edit you introduced an sfn reference "Marshall 1990", unfortunately you didn't define the reference. I suspect it will be Marshall, Chris (1990). The World's Great Military Helicopters. New York City: Gallery Books. ISBN 0-8317-9679-0. but do not have it to check. If you could check this and fix the article that would be great. DuncanHill ( talk) 21:55, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
Hello @ Gavbadger, I've edited your recent changes to RAF Edzell, specifically the location. I've used the location of Edzell Woods which lies immediately adjacent to the former airfield and was the location for housing on the base. These changes are all consistent with the wider location of Aberdeenshire. Obviously the fact that the base shares the name of the nearby village in a neghbouring county has slightly complicated matters but I believe the above change should provide sufficient clarity that all can agree on. Would be happy to discuss further if you have other thoughts on the matter. Regards, Stroness ( talk) 20:40, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
Dear Gavbadger I have just restored the Category:Russian Air Force bases to this page. You were absolutely right, the data on the page when you removed the category showed no indication that the RuAF had actively used the aerodrome after 1992. But when I saw what you had done, I wondered whether Michael Holm's excellent site held any more clues. So I ran a search string, "Slavgorod site:www.ww2.dk/new/" in Google, and yes, it was a training aviation regiment site for the Barnaul Higher Military Aviation School of Pilots in the Siberian Military District. B.Velikov had actually already added it to the Siberian MD page. So please consider, as you amend the Soviet/Russian airbase pages, checking Michael Holm's site in the same way. It's based off the best Russian book sources that he could source, and he has had extensive discussions with some of the book authors. Buckshot06 (talk) 05:42, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
How carefully did you check the reverts you have just made here? Among other things, the Brigade des pompiers de l’air is carefully referenced to an official source of 10 September 2021. Buckshot06 (talk) 11:01, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
You must provide copyright attribution in the edit summary accompanying your translation by providing an interlanguage link to the source of your translation. A model attribution edit summary is Content in this edit is translated from the existing Russian Wikipedia article at ru:Африканда (аэродром); see its history for attribution.
Dear Gavbadger this organization was not a brigade.
The categories appropriate to it are Category:Aviation units and formations of the United States Army and Category:Groups of the United States Army.
If you have a unclear situation with an article and you cannot exactly determine which correct category it goes in, please, do not hesitate to seek my or other third party advice. Buckshot06 (talk) 22:40, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
There is absolutely zero requirement for an infobox name to match the article page name. As per all other Wikipedia infoboxes, the infobox title should match the full correct legal name of the entity. Militum professio scriniarii ( talk) 16:00, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
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I saw that you had been doing some reformatting of lists of aircraft in aviation museum article. I tend to disagree with these changes, so I reverted them ( AZ, SMAM, YAM). However, I didn't want to get into an edit war or cause any hard feelings, so I figured I would lay out my arguments for retaining the existing format so that we could try to develop some sort of consensus.
Including the year introduced, type and "developed from" information seems to be rather excessive and unnecessary detail for this type of article as this information can be found by simply clicking the internal link on each entry. As I argued in my proposal for a standardized table for aircraft manufacturer articles, the list of aircraft should be a summary of the aircraft in the collection, not a detailed breakdown. If any additional information is to be included, it should be relevant to the overall subject of the article. I could potentially see some sort of utility for year introduced and type, since they could help show relationships between aircraft, but none at all for "developed from". However, I am still inclined to argue that any details other than the model of aircraft is too much, since the goal of an aviation museum article is not to illustrate the history of aviation, but instead describe the museum.
Furthermore, the data tends to be a bit less comparable when the aircraft don't all have some sort of unifying characteristic such as being built by the same manufacturer or coming from the same time period. For instance, comparing a glider to a drone to single engine monoplane to a multirole fighter jet.
I know this is sort of a backwards argument coming from me, since I was the one who was arguing for standardized tables for aircraft manufacturer articles (which actually uses a similar format to your table), but in this case I am somewhat against it. (For more points, see my comments in the discussion about tables for surviving aircraft lists.) Using a table is not a bad idea, per se, but with no information other than the aircraft type, there is nothing that needs to be sorted. The only other bit of information that is worth including is the airframe identity, but given that there is not really any value in sorting it, it is not enough to justify the inclusion of a table.
Furthermore, they also don't accommodate non-sortable data well – such as notes like "replica" or "cockpit only". Yes, that can be placed in a "comments" or "notes" column, but it is less than ideal. Similarly, if this information is not available for all of the aircraft, then the section left with blank cells in the table.
Lastly, the tables both add extra whitespace and make the article significantly longer because there is no way to make them multi-column as is the case with the div col template.
Generally, I would argue that the lists shouldn't be broken up into separate sections except where strictly necessary. For example, in extreme cases where the collection is excessively large as is the case with the National Museum of the United States Air Force. Even then, the sections are divided by display location, not time period – although in this case they correspond with time period. (However, I do acknowledge that when aviation museums subdivide their collections "era" is the most common choice.) As a matter of fact, breaking up the list would seem to negate some of the advantage of tables, as the inability to work across subsections would prevent the main benefit of the sort function – comparison – from being fully utilized.
On this note, how to structure aviation museum articles so that they have a uniform look is something that I've struggled with for a while. To that end, I actually created a template just the other day as a culmination of the conventions I had been developing on the subject. It also functions as a remind of the areas that can be covered when starting a new article. Although the "collection" section is only one portion of that, please feel free to take a look at it if you like.
I realize the reverts I did can seem combative, so I just want to say I appreciate all of the hard work that went into your edits and apologize if they gave the wrong impression. I don't want to seem unreasonable and try to keep an open mind, so if you have arguments in favor of your format, I would very much like to hear them. – Noha307 ( talk) 02:36, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
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