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Thank you very much for your feedback regarding my work so far. However I am quite confused regarding your decision to nominate my wordlist for transfer to Wikitonary. Why is it that the Portuguese wordlist should be moved while the French, English and Spanish lists remain as articles? Would it be helpful for me to mark these lists, or in the case of the Spanish one, the list portion, for transfer to Wikitonary? Wachowich 21:44, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Could you pleae move Qadaa to Kaza? Kaza is the more common term in English. I proposed the move on Talk:Qadaa over a week ago and there were no objections. I had previously merged the old Kaza article (about the Ottoman term) and the Qadaa article (about the modern use in Arab-speaking countries). Thanks, and Happy New Year! -- Macrakis 17:08, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Why didn't you warn Dodona for personal attacks? Miskin 09:36, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
That was an accident. Ranting or not I found his last edit really offensive. Miskin 10:58, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Hey, can you take a quick look here. I am having some serious problems with civility on Tajik's part. I tried being nice, being formal, being humorous, but he still comes back with all types of personal attacks and degrading comments, both about me, about Turks and about I don't know what. I reported him for 3RR yesterday, but nothing happened. But the main problem is with civility. Thanks Baristarim 01:07, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your catch on this article. I wasn't sure which to go with, I just knew that it neeed to start heading toward the door. Pastordavid 12:34, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
I just saw your edit summary - looks like you went to the trouble of filing that for nothing. -- Steel 13:18, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Haven't seen the "Nazi" thing, although he identified as a " white supremacist" in his userpage. And regarding the "help me help him" comment, I and a lot of other Greek editors here have really tried. A lot. Niko Silver 14:21, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
I did answer the questions though! Thanks for the info. I have to have 100 post?
Hi FTS. There is not exact date on which modern Greek literature begins. Conveniently we consider "Digenis Akritas" as the first script of the modern Greek literature, the first script that is different from medieval (Byzantine) Greek. Emmanuel Legrand, Mario Vitti, and others argue in their works about when modern Greek literature begins: 9th, 10th, 11th, 1204, 1453 or 1669. The truth is that none can come to a conclusion, since the differences between modern and Byzantine Greek are very few. The θα in the future tense came in usage after the Hellenistic-Roman times, about the same time when οσπίτιον->σπίτι replaced οικία and νεαρόν->νερόν ύδωρ replaced ύδωρ; this, on its own is not enough to say that the song is older. The Swiss Samuel Baud-Bovy, in his La chanson grecque (pages 163-174) places the song in the 9th century; so does Linos Politis, in his History of modern Greek literature (5. Το Δημοτικό τραγούδι, Κυρίως άσματα, σελ. 103). Also, Fauriel, the man who made the Demotika songs known in the West, referred to their ancient roots, and the early composition of this specific one. Goethe, in a letter to his son, Augustus, on July 5 1815, referred to the demotika songs' early origins (I will write it in German, since I have it:)...): Ein Freud der Neugriechen war bei mir, der Lieder dieses Volkes mit sich fürt, das Köstlichste in dem Sinne der lyrisch-dramatisch-epischen Poesie, was wir kennen (K. Dieterich, "Goethe und die neugriechische Volksdichtung", Hellas-Jahrbuch, 1929, pp 61-81, and, for the Greek translation that I've read Σ.Β. Κουγέας, Νέα Εστία 11, 1932, σελ. 621 και εξής). Also, "Digenis Akritas" seems to have arisen from the demotika songs (Linos Politis "L' epopee byzantine de Digenis Akritas. Problemes de la tradition du texte et des rapports avec les chansons akritiques" in "Atti del Convegno Internationale sul tema: La poesia epica e la sua formazione", Rome, Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei, 1970, pp 551-581. Also, the works of A. Pertusi); some academics say that it is in fact a composition of smaller demotika songs (the fact that in some places in Greece, only parts of this epic poem have survived during the ages, e.g. Η μονομαχία του Διγενή με τον Χάρο στα Μαρμαρένια Αλώνια, gives more credit to the demotika songs as an early modern Greek poetry-also have in mind that the link is unbroken, both towards ancient and modern times). Δεν έχω καταλάβει τί ακριβώς μου ζητάς για τις μελωδίες, την ηλικία και τη μετάδοση. Θα ψάξω να βρω παραπάνω στοιχεία για τη μετάδοση σε άλλους λαούς. Προς το παρόν, βρήκα αναλογία με την "Μπαλλάντα της Λεονώρας" στους δυτικούς ευρωπαϊκούς λαούς. You are right about the version that I have used in the article; it is the most widely known version, and the one I first read in my region. Unnecessary to refer to other versions, since there are too many. Apropos, the differences among them are, in fact, of no importance. The version I linked to is not the one I used for the translation (if u've noticed, line 39 of the translation, is missing from the link). Much regards Hectorian 19:00, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
That's strange, I just did a test print and it was quite large and legible. What kind of printer settings or browser are you printing off of? Also, what may be the interest in printing my page if I may ask :)? ¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 19:30, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes! Nice to be here! Do I have to change something in the page? I read something about changing the time. Do I have to? And if yes, what time exactly?!! At the top? The time of Aldux' signature? Thanks!-- Yannismarou 20:08, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I really hope this reasoning is not an one-off case. (I'm refering to this vs that) Niko Silver 22:49, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
If the Maniots article was to be merged then would all the infomation be added onto the Mani Peninsula article? Kyriakos 11:56, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
PLease have a look at what I said at the Maniots article talk page. Thanks. Kyriakos 12:02, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
My one true weakness. Tombseye 06:04, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. The checkuser actually wasn't done on wiki, but I can forward you the email if you want. I don't mind at all about the redirect either. Cheers, Khoi khoi 11:29, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm just trying to get information. I have never seen a process open to move the article; Ottoman Muslim casualties of World War I to Ottoman casualties of World War I. The current content does not include other parts of the Ottoman millet such as Ottoman Armenian casualties. If there is one could you give me the link. Or are you willing to collect all these articles under the article that you moved the content? Also what is your base on moving these articles? Historically speaking I do not know anything, if you give me some citations for this action, I would appreciate. -- OttomanReference 19:01, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
I replied here. There are some serious problems with that reasoning, and I will be applying it here as well. In fact you are right. The latest title can stay, but I hope that you will stick behind your reasoning and back me up when I will have moved the other article very soon. Thanks Baristarim 19:35, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Dear FPaS, Thanks for your contribution in template and sample use in Çanakkale. We have allready another variable there, "image" which has exactly same value as "sortkey". I am planning to delete "image" variable and use "sortkey" variable instead it, to keep as simple as possible. If I use, "sortkey" variable, for example in; "Image:{{{:sortkey}}} Turkey provinces Locator.jpg" will there be any problem with this variable.?
Regards Must TC 20:56, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. Regards. Must TC 21:15, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
You may right in hierarchical point of wiev.
Regards. Must TC 22:07, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
If you offer still stands, I'm willing to try and run the gauntlet... yandman 09:10, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Hello, Fut.Perf., Our intention at Phantis was indeed to create a free wiki, under GFDL, for yourselves - and anyone else - to freely use, copy, etc. At one point, it was brought to our attention that it was wrong for us to copy information from you without proper acknowledgement. We then created the "Credit Wikipedia" template which you may have noticed on several of our articles. Should you think that a better way exists, all suggestions are welcome. Hope this has been of help, if not, please contact Lazarus - the man who pays the bills in Phantis - for further discussion. I will let him know you contacted me. Many thanks for doing so and I hope we may continue to aid one another in our ultimate goal which is to spread knowledge freely on the web - -- Irlandos 11:33, January 22, 2007 (EST)
See my latest additions to Talk:Names of Istanbul. -- Macrakis 21:24, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
hello already i read your mensage and I see that you do not like my name of user not itself because I bother you my USERNAME of user that name it choised I because i like, i don't understand that ask me about my user and i don't know do that!!!-- Hjncfkdnmhbjk 00:57, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for having sounded like a process-wank. The entry just stuck out, and my brain was on auto-reply-mode. Personally I'd just have prodded that template, it really doesn't need a full blown TfD :) Charon X/ talk 01:33, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks 4 everything; I'm looking for the Ottoman Armenian casualties, I hope you show the same sensibility. -- OttomanReference 01:29, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Hmmm...this is a tough one. The current title is indeed ridiculous. The main problem that I see, is that the article is almost a POV fork of the Armenian Genocide page, making it seem like it was just a civil war. I know that Fadix wrote the Ottoman Armenian casualties article, he might be someone to ask. Another person I recommend is Cglassey—he is a historian who knows a great deal about the Ottoman Empire during World War I. However, to be honest, I really don't like either of those titles, and would prefer Something Completely Different... I need some time to think about this one I guess. Khoi khoi 09:01, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I think the new title will be fine, since it is a valid title and a topic that needs to be covered. However my point was that it would have been much better if another article was created and the content moved from "Muslim". Now it is the other article that has its history. Oh well.. On the other hand, I still have to register for the record that how this move happened was very disturbing. There should have been more consultation in the talk page, particularly since it was pointed out in the AfD that anybody could create the "Ottoman" article. Soon enough I am sure that there will be a new article at "Muslim" - but I know for a fact that many people are still going to vote delete or merge, no matter what BS they said in the AfD. There are people who cannot take the fact that there can be a seperate article - which is pretty racist IMO. FP.. Nearly every third-party editor in the PGG RfCs (including the first one (way back when) have voiced miscontent with the title (including many other third-party editors who are simply too afraid to step into the talk page). And every single new title is being rejected by the same editors on the same exact grounds. Not to mention the "revenge" at TRNC title-tag. What is your take on the situation? Baristarim 17:21, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm finding all this very annoying. The reasons why Baristarim & co. are so insistent on having "Muslim" in the title is so blatantly obvious that even Winnie the Pooh can work out what they are, and they are not in the BS the opposition to that view are being fed. The ulterior motives (which ultimately come down to Turkish-pushing) are crystal clear and were confirmed yet again with OttomanReference's dab page. Baris, do everyone a favor and stop accusing people of revenge (and other ad hominems), başarmıyacak... // Dirak 17:45, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
I confirm that Meta user m:User:Future Perfect at Sunrise, making this edit [4], is me. Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:01, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
... in good faith adding the article to AFD, having the decision be a resounding keep but move, then have this done and then have a new MFD promptly created? By all rights, I should have just speedy kept the AFD. If you would like, I can alert everyone. - Ta bu shi da yu 11:28, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Hiya, I just saw you extended Mitsos's block for evasion. I noticed an IP had been editing the page, but was hesitant to take action myself in case someone accuses me of picking on him. I've reverted the IP's edits per
WP:BLOCK, and semi-protected Hrisi Avgi. The protection is set to expire at exactly the same time as Mitsos's block
[5]
[6] (I've been waiting for a chance to try out that new toy feature). Just a heads up. --
Steel 13:23, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
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Hi, just wanted to talk to you about my user page. I don't really think that having a billingual list of cities in northern Greece is a big deal. But what really concerns me is the amount of offending content on other userpages and Wikipedians don't seem to mind at all, and they are wasting their time removing content from my page when really there are real discrimatory content on other pages. For example, User:Makedonas has on his userpage content that states my language doesn't exist and that its a dialect of another language, he is dening my nation saying that its "Tito's invention" and he also has political songs (no song is more political than an anthem), and he has an article of the city Kozani, and nowhere does it say that it that its not a Wikipedia Article but a user page. My userpage is not dening anyones language, race, or religion, his user page also says "Macedonia, 3000 years Greek history", if put on my user page "Macedonia, 3000 years of Macedonian history" it will probably get reverted. How about User:Asteraki ? Look at all the articles on his page, yet for some reason you are more concerned about a billingual list on my page. Macedonia 21:22, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Hello FP. A few days ago you blocked me due to what you saw a revert war between me and User: NisarKand on the Afghanistan article. What was actually happening was that Nisarkand was making a false claim and then using a FAKE (pretend) source to back it. By that I mean that he says one thing in the article but his source says something else. And that is why I had to revert. It was Nisarkand that was making a SERIOUS VIOLATION of Wiki's rules, providing false sources. I think that I should not have been given that ban and that Nisarkand should have punished accordingly to his violation. I will list a few times he has done this.
Now these are 2 major instances of Nisarkand providing fake sources for false claims. I have caught a few others but those were more minor. Additionally, User: Tajik has also caught this several times and he may also report a few examples of this violation.
Also the other day he uploaded a picture and gave it a total made up filename and description. I told other Admins about that and they deleted the picture so I can't show it to you now, but that was another one of his dishonest violations.
This, making stuff up and providing fake sources, is a very serious offense, so please try to do something about User: NisarKand. I think this is a very serious violation of the rules and I wouldn't be surprised if he was banned for it.
Thanks. -- Behnam 03:46, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Do you mind if I protect all the articles that Mywayyy is currently using as a playground? Khoi khoi 05:14, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
What is Wikipedia doing about those other articles on Smyrna 1922 (Destruction of Smyrna, Burning of Smyrna etc) that automatically revert to the ridiculous "Great Fire of Smyrna". Is this a turkish website or can alternative postings be accessed? THIS ISSUE MUST BE RESOLVED.-- Tedblack 12:54, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
οκ λοιπον, θα σεβαστω την αποψη σου μιας και το εχεις ψαξει περισσοτερο. ΑΧαχχααχ μα γιατι σε οποιον μιλαω για το μαρκοπουλο μου λεει για τα μουστοκουλουρα του Δαρεμα? Περαν την πλακα, οντως δεν υπαρχουν καλυτερα! Θα ηταν χαρα μου να σου στειλω κανα κιλο. Ελλαδα μενεις? ;)-- KaragouniS 15:18, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
ok φιλε, νασαι καλα τοτε :P -- KaragouniS 15:36, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Sorry που δεν απαντησα νωριτερα αλλα για καποιον λογο δεν ειχα δει το μυνημα σου. Οχι, δυστυχως δεν ξερω σχεδον καθολου αρβανιτικα εξαιτιας του οτι πλεον εχει ερθει πολυς ξενος κοσμος στο μαρκοπουλο (και γενικοτερα στα μεσογεια) και μιλαμε μονο με την κοινη ελληνικη. Μαλλον αυτη η γλωσσα χανεται σιγα σιγα...-- KaragouniS 17:30, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi Future. The map is still the same map of. However, it was reprinted in 2001. The source of it is the communist government of 1985, and thus, the map has no license. Tājik 16:57, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Δεν είμαι πια καλτσέμπορας! 23:54, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
It has come to my attention that you may have unfairly blocked ColtsXLI as he had only made one vandalizing edit and that was one that appears to have a possibility of being purely accidental.I only ask that in the future you first display a warning before jumping on the block train. Please do not treat it as a witch hunt everyone makes mistakes. Cylonhunter 02:45, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
I have editted the Maniots article so that it is not only the history of Mani but also the enthnology and culture. Could you please take a look at it and tell me what you hink and wether or not it should be merged with the Mani Peninsula article. Thanks. :) Kyriakos 08:33, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
OK!-- Yannismarou 08:39, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
It was Netsnipe who officially declined the request, btw. I don't really believe his story here, but I think we can't do much but to watch him. – Chacor 15:34, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
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Thank you.-- Yannismarou 20:31, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Bad little user! Steal Bishzilla's Supports! [13] Bad moon rising! Bishzilla | grrrr! 20:32, 25 January 2007 (UTC).
First, I didn't notice at all that I have violated 3RR rule before some day and that I have been reported. I agree, I shouldn't involve in edit warring, but sometimes it is hard to resist when someone is constantly reverting your edits. About Kicevo article, you cannot say I was going against consensus in that article (there is no previous consensus as I know, at least not in the article discussion page). Before some time, I and several other users agreed to have the following consensus about some of the Macedonian and Greek cities: if a special Name section exists, then any relevant name can be mentioned and explained there. That way we solved the edit warring in Bitola article, in Florina article and in other articles as well. Kicevo article also has a Name section. If you take a better look, you will see that I tried to discuss my actions in the discussion page, so they aren't blind reverts without any explanation. In addition, by further examination you can notice that other users were involved in edit warring as well: Khoikhoi did 3 reverts in the same day (23 January 2007), however, he/she at least discussed it in the discussion page, FunkyFly without any discussion did 3 reverts on 25 January 2007. I'm open for discussion and I hope we will find a consensus about that article. MatriX 12:22, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
No problem. As for the plainlinks, here's what my sig looks like on my computer:
I'm not sure why you don't see anything... Khoi khoi 07:24, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi Future, an attempt has just begun to resolve the Pontian Greek Genocide dispute through an arbitration committee. Since you have mediated there before, could you please voice your support or objection to such a measure here. Thanks, -- A.Garnet 16:33, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Any chance you'd be willing to let me know what you think of the concern I brought up on Jan. 10? As a classicist with no expertise whatsoever in phonology, I have long accepted the account in Allen, which I was taught. This account may be wrong, but what I really find unsettling is that it seems to have been falsely attributed to Allen in our Wikipedia articles. I'll be grateful for any response you may care to offer, either here or at the article's talk page. Wareh 17:15, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Hey future - the map looks great, could be used for both - however, the only suggestion you need is called an "overview". This is the little 'square' in the corner that shows a bigger area (like an entire map of Turkey) to show the user the area that your map covers... much like they do in National Geographic, or like I did with the Districts of Turkey maps. Thank you for the neutral input. Rarelibra 13:46, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
FP can you re-upload that map without the annoying (and off-centered) white border? It doesn't align with the rest of the pics in the infoboxes (and anywhere else). I'd do it myself, but I'd have to export the result in anything except svg (which is not supported by neither of my apps). Niko Silver 23:46, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
That one! |
:-) Niko Silver 23:55, 28 January 2007 (UTC) |
POSTSCRIPT - Ick! That phrase is like a swear word. I haven't found an easy way around it, and in many cases, I bypass the frustrations and attempts to counter its affects by doing things the 'old way' - digitizing manually. I know this doesn't help if you don't have a software with snap and autotrace... what are you using to capture the data into svg? At this point, I hit a brick wall because my experience with SVG is 'zero'. :( Rarelibra 14:26, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Wow! Great maps! Can you also learn me to make maps?! What programs do I need? Is it easy to learn? Can I easily uploap them then to Wikipedia?! I'm now reading the Aegean dispute article, and I intend to write a detailed review in its talk page.-- Yannismarou 15:52, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Awesome maps, awesome work in the article about the Aegean dispute. When you finish, you definitely need to feature it! Niko Silver 00:12, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
For Patras, how about comprmising with the Cypriot pronounciation of Batra or is it m'batra? That should keep us all democratically unhappy... kidding :-). Nice maps, takes ages to download. Politis 13:01, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Hey, can you keep an eye on the Turkey page for a while because of User:TedBlack? I don't know if you have been observing it but he is sneakily adding a lot of information to that article in a way to disrupt it blatantly. After the etymology addition was reverted, he added that the inflation was 27percent citing an unaccessible figure even thought the accessible inflation figure says it is 9 something. Thanks Baristarim 18:48, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for bringing that to my attention. After looking into things a bit more, I've unblocked and responded at User talk:Nwwaew. Luna Santin 19:19, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Are these users still under your informal revert parole? It looks like they've definitely violated it here: [14], and like E104421 has violated it here [15], and he's also racked up 3 more reverts today at a related article [16]. Dmcdevit· t 23:26, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
You hit the nail on the head- I edit from school, which uses the IP's 208.108.145.3/4/11/12. My home IP (24.50.211.226) is static, and only used at my home. But hey, if my temporary block gets rid of a lot of vandal sockpuppets and sleepers, then its worth it! Nwwaew ( Talk Page) ( Contribs) ( E-mail me) ( Review me!) 12:43, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
This'll be the one and only RfA thanks message I'll send out, because I don't think there's much point in them. Thanks for the offer and the eloquent nomination: hopefully my future administrative abuses won't reflect too poorly on yourself... :-) Cheers! yandman 08:06, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
The customary English spelling is Lemnos; as long as you are tweaking the map of Tenedos... Septentrionalis PMAnderson 19:20, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for you help on that page. I think I can sleep much better knowing that wikipedia no longer thinks appositives are literary devices. Whew. :) - grubber 22:56, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Ok thanks. But please let me know first before doing so. Maybe I put the wrong license or maybe I can justify the fair use better. But before deleting them, give me some time so I can check. Give me about 6 hours. Behnam 13:04, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Well apparently he doesn't intend to stop harassing the article. Even with my answers removed he keeps on replying anyway. I don't think he's ever gonna stop unless someone puts him into place. The only thing that frustrates me is that I can't reply as I would really want to. He clearly violates NPA with his personal attacks and racial comments, I don't think my replying is the real source the problem, nor that my silence will be its most efficient resolve. Miskin 00:30, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi Future,
I know i've already asked you, but since you were to a degree involved in the PGG article, could you give us your view on the arbitration attempt we are trying to get going. I'd appreciate if you could add your name either in favour or opposition to such a measure here. Thanks, -- A.Garnet 20:20, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Is there any policy or guideline on english wikipedia regarding to disapproval of group accounts? Hessam 23:14, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
He just broke the 1RR on Golden Horde and Huns. Is there any thing you can do about it? Khoi khoi 09:11, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
It is interesting that you have left no such message for Baristarim. His provocative statements that I am masking my true ID obviously do not carry the same weight. You have not heard the last of me. -- Tedblack 10:56, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Here's another sock puppet [ [17]]. He is not editing here on Wikipedia. He is now on WikiCommons and up to no good there. He's doing alot of vandalizing there. Take a look at his recent contributions [18]. If he is banned from here shouldn't he also be banned from Commons, Wiktionary, and others? Please take a look at that. His recent edits are all vandalism and he won't quit pushing for his POV even there. And if you can just please remove all his edits and undo all his edits. I know I should have contacted that other Admin, but you are most familiar with the situation so I decided to contact you. Thanks Behnam 07:34, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Ethnic idenitifcation is not independent of descent buddy, and thats a pretty ridiculous stement. THe vast majority of group requir e common descent as one of the main parts of an ethnos (people). Ethnos means "people", not merely nationality, culture or language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.92.92.176 ( talk • contribs)
FP, maybe you should shed a little light into this dark situation. I wouldn't like being the only Greek speaker to verify this, so just read my last comment and say if you agree. Thanks. Niko Silver 14:36, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Please watch the article List of Turkic states and empires. Some IP/newly registered user is vandalizing the article by deleting sources etc, and by replacing them with a POV copy from the Turkish wikipedia, with wrong English and stylistic mistakes. Tājik 18:28, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
irani, afhgani peoples arent care for turkic people. turkic history is written by turk. ok? i am official association personal in turkey. i will phone with england office of wikipedia. ok... tajik is saying lie... he often changes it.-- Offical 18:45, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Regarding this, I never really liked those kind of moves because you can't follow conversations from already existing diffs. Of course the policy doesn't really condemn either form of archiving and if it prevents Dodona reverting, then brilliant. Can you think of a good notice to place at the top of the page advising against general discussion on the talkpage.-- Domitius 13:49, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
As I'm sure you've noticed, socks are reverting at List of Turkic states and empires.-- Domitius 16:13, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
There seems to be a dead end in Slavic language (Greece). Any ideas for a way forward? In my opinion leaving the article as it is is a problem. We need to change it or mark it as POV. Generally though, I am a little bit disappointed. -- Michkalas 17:34, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of A Shanty No Lemon. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. GRBerry 03:56, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Yes, I saw that. In fact, it seems that u were not happy with most of the additions I made... However, u did not have to remove this, since I quote the specific articles, it is sourced by the Hellenic Ministry of foreign affairs, and I had editted it in a NPOV way (Greece claims that...). also, this was with regard to res inter alios acta further down. In the Convention between Italy and Turkey, 1932, u have practically explained thouroughly the Turkish position, but u have made no mention to the position of Greece and Italy, who consider the whole of the Convention valid. Hectorian 09:23, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
If you look HERE you will see that User:Shuppiluliuma is continuing to violate WP:CIVIL. I really don't appreciate his offensive and personal comments, such as "Blinded by nationalist pride, perhaps?" and "Some people are not only illiterate, but blind as well" (see diff). I warned him on his talk page, and he has now changed it... maybe there is hope, after all. Rarelibra 16:14, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I'd like a neutral opinion on an important matter which is getting out of hand. I'm of the opinion that the article Cretan Turks tends to become (and is in its current state) a POV-fork of Cretan Muslims. Certain editors do not agree and for that reason I'm trying to gather some non-partisan views. It doesn't require any specific knowledge on the topic, except keeping in mind that Cretan Muslims is well sourced and accepted by all editors. The problem lies in the fact that some editors insist on expressing a different (unreferenced) version of the story in a separate article. Thanks in advance. Miskin 17:32, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Yes it is supposed to be like you described, except that certain editors tend to edit the head of Cretan Turks in a way to describe Cretan Muslims, by making it its POV-fork. The current version is like that, and they don't intend to change it back despite its lack of sources. In other words, one version of the head makes Cretan Turks the Cretan Muslims of Turkey, and the second version (by Cretanforever) makes Cretan Turks = Cretan Muslims. I would only like from a non-partisan to acknowledge my theory on this - imagine that it's the only topic where me and Macrakis are on the same side. But if don't have time it's ok, it's not that urgent, besides it's a matter of time until the POV-fork is revealed. The most ironic thing is that they won't even let me a "disputed" tag. Miskin 18:09, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
The most annoying thing however is User:Khoikhoi's unjust behaviour. He reverted my edits 3 times supposedly because I needed a consensus before making edits (which were in fact a restoration of a 'stable' version) [20], though he had never asked for consensus from the edits which turned the original version into a POV-fork [21]. Furthermore, notice how sarcastic and provokative are his edit summaries when he reverts my versions. And notice how uncooperative he's been with me on several occasions [22]. And it's all about the specific article because I once said the phrase "end of story". I don't expect from you to be neutral about something that concerns another "fellow admin" but I'm letting you know anyway. On the specific article, Khoikhoi has been in several occasions reverting a clearly justified version (which always happens to be on my edit) supposedly enforcing people to reach a consensus. This attitude however enforces people who are trying to pass a POV, to continue supporting that POV (eventhough they are aware of it), precisely because their edit-war gets support from non-partisans - in this case an admin. And I'm willing to take the matter further. Miskin 18:29, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
You said: "Hi Yamla, in the interest of not-BITEing, I'm inclined to unblock 129.31.65.133 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) whose request you declined. From his edits before the issue with the cite template, I'm quite certain there was no intent to vandalise but a good-faith effort at improving the article. This was just a newbie failure to understand the cite template and a failure to get the message when warned."
Honestly, I too knew that the RfC was frivilous, but I thought it was a good opportunity to spell out why the user should be look into. I was actually surprised that the user had actually not been banned by now, so I wanted to write out exactly what the problem was. Kelvinc 00:16, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't think the comparsion of Miskin and Barış' edit proves anything, because he edited the page through AWB. Miskin's edits were clear whitewashing of the exodus of the Cretan Turks. Do you think they chose to leave Crete? I am surprised that you are taking Miskin's side on this, just look at his insults on the talk page to understand why I don't want to talk to him. Khoi khoi 02:08, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you with this article again. I think that during the rather prolonged discussion there I have cited some sources supporting the claim that the heading and the content of the article was POV. The content is now less so (tough it needs to be more consistent with the citations). Trudgill's quote shows that referring to the Slavonic languages in Greece as simply "Slavika" or, as in the heading of the article, "Slavic language (Greece)" is POV. "Greek non-linguists, when they acknowledge the existence of these dialects at all, frequently refer to them by the label Slavika, which has the implication of denying that they have any connection with the languages of the neighboring countries. " We need thus a new heading. I believe either "Macedonian language in Greece" (explaining in the article their exact classification and geographic distribution) or "Slavic languages in Greece" (in that case Pomakika should have an equal part in the article) are good headings. The choice for "Macedonian language in Greece" is also endorsed by the fact that the rest of the article, that is the Abecedar, Metaxas and Rainbow, refers to Macedonian. The part on "Bulgarian Human Rights in Macedonia" can maybe included in the article on Minorities in Greece. I am writing these to you and not at the article talk page, because you can maybe propose something which can be acceptable by everybody, while my proposal could be faced with suspicion. I can not promise that, because I called you, I will not necessarily disagree :), but I do not want to have another quarrel over this with Dometius and Kekrops and I would prefer to see a consensus on the changes needed. Thanks for your time, -- Michkalas 13:40, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
He is using this ip address [25] -- Behnam 13:56, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Would you explain what does "invalid fair-use claim" mean? http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Battle_of_Karbala&diff=107367802&oldid=107367147 Best. Farhoudk 19:10, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, as a commons admin, could you perhaps have a look at the contributions of commons:User:Ibrahimjon there? He's uploaded a number of images, for instance Image:Abuali Sino Avicenna.jpg, credited to a painter called "Immodinova C." and at the same time claimed to be released as "own work" - but his own real name as per his userpage doesn't match, he calls himself Ibrahimjon Rustamov there. Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:14, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
I have deleted the image (and put a photograph to the article). Sorry about it, this is an afterglow of the {{ PD-USSR}} license. Alex Bakharev 22:28, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
...then it is the responsibility of the law-maker to shut those windows. Just see WT:U#Countries et al and try to distance yourself from familiar cases. Niko Silver 22:32, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the prompt reply to my appeal of the blocking of my user name (Silent Sphinctre). I won't be bothering you any further about this, but I do find it a bit hypocritical that a place called Wikipedia bans mention of an anatomical feature which is primarily concerned with inoffensive functions (see Sphincter). Honest, the first time I saw the name Wikipedia, my filthy little mind made a connection to the indecent meanings of wick right away. As I said, I won't be bothering you further about this, and you have given me an explanation, so no reply is necessary. Anyway, I won't be logging in again under that name and wouldn't see it.
A good read, I'll read through it again later, a few thoughts of my own.
pgk 13:01, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
[26] Khoi khoi 15:37, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Iconic status of the image "Ashura afternoon" is a reality in various countries in the middle east which may be unknown for other people around the world. The same things may happen for image of Picasso's Guernica, to be unknown for the people in the middle east. Is there any exact definition for the term "iconic" to help us better underestand which image could be used and which one should not be used in a specific article? Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Battle_of_Karbala#Fair_use_image_of_Farshchiyan_http:.2F.2Ffarshchianart.com
Also See: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Battle_of_Karbala&diff=107573235&oldid=107528877
Best. Farhoudk 16:14, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Fut.Per. I'm very sorry about the latest trouble i brought about the parole. Dmcdevit is quite right in his decision about the revert parole. Sorry, i misled you, cause i really forgot the Golden Horde is in the list. Apologizing. Best wishes. E104421 21:19, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the help with Shup(etc). I tried to reason with him, but for whatever reason he decided to go off the deep end. Hopefully he will catch his breath for a while and come back to make more meaningful contributions.
On another note, I need your assistance, if possible. User:Pmanderson is attempting to slander me due to personal disagreements he and I have had. The diff is HERE, I don't think it is allowed for him to slander me in a professional discussion on a talk page due to disagreements that he and I have had (and we were both blocked for 24 hrs punishment for 3RR). He is upset that I disagree on his philosophy on a certain topic and is trying to get back at me due to my involvement in the discussion. Rarelibra 22:31, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Well it seemed pretty clear to me based on the fact that he reverted to AP's versions on all those 10 pages, and was extremely persistent in it. Also, if he isn't his sockpuppet, based on the comments on his talk page, I guess we could call him a meatpuppet, and according to the policy:
The Arbitration Committee has ruled that, for the purpose of dispute resolution, when there is uncertainty whether a party is one user with sock puppets, or several users acting as meatpuppets, they may be treated as one individual.
However, I guess we could assume good faith and unblock him, on the condition that he not revert the articles anymore, and try to get consensus for his edits. How does that sound? Khoi khoi 02:45, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks:) I'll try to contribute positively to wikipedia Ceha 02:45, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Tigran's court image had the wrong tag. It was not a fair use image. It originally had the pd soviet tag, when that became defunct it was erroniously replaced with the fair use tag instead of the applicable pd russia tag.-- Ευπάτωρ Talk!! 18:03, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Thought you might be interested in Jimbo's comment, certainly seems to suggest the intent of the recent announcement is to tighten our policies. -- pgk 20:32, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Hey FPS, can you please point me to the diff where Mursili tells you that he's not Greier but his brother or something like that? He just doesn't intend to stop making socks and refuses it to the last moment. I'm after some more of his socks and I need some evidence on his persistence in order to blow his cover. Miskin 22:12, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Is there any proof of the RFC he once started against me? Miskin 22:16, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
He's been creating socks one after the other, check here [30] here [31] and here [32]. As usually he doesn't admit any of it and blames it on me. I've been enforcing the WP:BAN advice of reverting a banned user's edits. This makes his sockpuppets easily detectable as he can't help himself from getting into disputes and rv-wars. Miskin 23:16, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Oh and sorry about the section thing, it's just that some people (like Nikosilver) prefer it the other way around. Miskin 23:17, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
There is a banned user; who is constantly trying to revert the article to a version that has copy right issues. user is User:Shuppiluliuma he has been using different IP numbers to change the version with the copyrighted images. The review is [ review]. The last edited revision is. Thanks 4Ur help. -- OttomanReference 01:53, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Could you do something about the socks at Skopje (s-protection maybe). Dirak 15:02, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
These articles seem to have reached an impasse. Most of the editors are pushing one POV or the other, and refuse to engage in constructive dialogue. Most of the editors are being uncivil and confrontational. Well-sourced content has been removed. Yet another POV fork has been created ( Crete Province, Ottoman Empire) with content which is an unformatted cut-and-paste from Cretan Muslims (some of that page really should go onto a general History of Ottoman Crete page, but not all of it). The non-English you complained about has been restored. I don't have the time to deal with all this bullshit, which is why I avoided the articles in the first place. Is there some way to move things forward? -- Macrakis 18:04, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
A. Garnet the Pontian Greek Genocide is a dissimilar example - at least it does meet consensus in Greek sources. Cretanforever's caprices in Cretan Turks and the likes are a clear violation of WP:POLICY. Miskin 22:05, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I am blocked by the spam filter from reverting a simple anon vandalism at Ottoman Empire. I left a note at meta, but I just can't seem to nail down which web-site is concerned and how it ended up in the spam list. What can be done? By the way, I am sorry for not replying to you earlier about your post about user Offical.. I was away for a couple of days.. I will try to keep an eye on the situation. Cheers! Baristarim 22:21, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
As for the other articles.. Unfortunately the same old, sorry about that... Baristarim 22:21, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Is this to be reverted? Can you give it a look please? Niko Silver 10:37, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your efforts about the Babek picture. Unfortunately, it seems those CAIS people failed to tell you that they themselves based their page on Wikipedia, both the text (which is obviously based on the earlier text we had here) and probably the image (their copy seems to be a scaled-down version of ours, which in turn was taken earlier from the azeripainting site.) And of course, they've provided no explanation how they came to own the painter's copyright. Do they own the original painting? - Sorry, but I can't see how they can then license that thing back to us. Fut.Perf. ☼ 21:48, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for the late reply. Yep, that e-mail should make it clear that the new version is okay, since they plausibly claim to own the copyright and they have clearly released it under GFDL. Thanks for your efforts and your patience in dealing with this! Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:16, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Dear Fut.Perf. Is there any possibility to delete the image [34] that I originally uploaded on 15th February at 07:29 [35] to prevent any future confusion? Regards ← ← Parthian Shot (Talk) 15:40, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Could you check the Atatürk page regarding User:DragutBarbarossa. I believe DragutBarbarossa and his friend having a personal vendetta against my edits. Thanks -- OttomanReference 02:48, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
I noticed you deleted the Robert Horry pic. Being as it was listed under a creative commons license I'm wondering why. Although I also have doubts as to whether it was taken by the fan, the angle it was taken from it looks like it was coming from the stands and I/like you have no proof it actually wasn't. Assuming you don't have evidence it was a copyvio can you tell my you deleted it? Here's the source again by the way: [36] Quadzilla99 15:13, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, I think I'm going to have to keep it semiprotected when I'm not online. yandman 18:14, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I'm sure you know there's been a fuss around this. I really don't understand how unexplained reverts may be tolerated there. Espaecially with the audacity of asking for explanations that have been provided in all sorts of places including your talk above, and with the further audacity of invoking a consensus to which they haven't taken part. I look forward to your help in sorting this out. Niko Silver 01:35, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi FPaS, I am sorry if I caused trouble. I removed all links to this image, but I honestly don't understand why you think it's a problem. I mean the picture isn't a candiate for the pultizer price, or contains something creative. We will profit nothing if we post it here. It is also used by other sites [37], including the website you posted. This website [38] is not the original owner, You can see the "author" field there empty, i.e. they themselve don't know the author ;) Anyway, the image isn't that important. Jidan 01:47, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
I, i have noticed that you have deleted sports trainer article, was the only reason for the deletion because it was created by a banned user? If so is it ok for me to re-create it?
( James West (Force Pavilion) 05:23, 20 February 2007 (UTC))
Well You seemed not to know the situation here..Fan events and talk shows drags hundreds of fans and with the modern cameras they poses coupled with image soft wares any one can create perfect professional looking photos..I can accept your argument about the first photo, even though that one is certainly not copyrighted..unless you prove that later photos are copyrighted,I don't think your threatens going to stop me from adding them,rightfully, I would say.thanks -- Iwazaki 16:00, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Some events in the story I have to tell take place before the time in which the story takes place, which is already in the past. It’s these past-perfect events that leave some people guessing, I guess.-- ЦпғогgеттаЫе 07:15, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I've changed the copyright status. Now, if something is incorrect, you can fix it too. thnx for the advice.. Armando.O talk • Ev 18:17, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Somewhere in the last two days I apologized for removing the tag. I misread the text where it said the tag could be removed if a valid FU rationale was posted. I missed the part about being an admin. In any case, I would like to see some sort of global discussion about these images. -- evrik ( talk) 15:24, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Hello. Was just wondering why you removed the "Permission" magazine cover from the Pauley Perrette page. Thanks.... SVRTVDude ( Yell - Toil) 22:59, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Could you please tell me how wikipedia is better off without Sports trainer article, and why you think that this article should not be on wikipedia? Thank You. ( Kylie 04:36, 24 February 2007 (UTC))
I am going to re-create the Sports trainer article, i have improved it, and am not a banned user, so there is no reason why it should be deleted again. Thank You ( Kylie 04:48, 24 February 2007 (UTC))
Right, but who owns the images? I have searched and searched and you can find most of them on google just because there the owners doesn't mean anything, I have a website also I can upload images and claim its my website but no info on who owns the images. Artaxiad 14:05, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Looks like someone tries very hard to clean wikipedia of images, uploaded by Azerbaijani users. These images were uploaded by their respective owners, and are used with permission. I don't think that they should be deleted. This will deprive many articles of good illustrations and will not benefit wikipedia. Grandmaster 16:08, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
The Surreal Barnstar | ||
I, Evilclown, award you this barnstar for the block you made on Macedonia. I think the move was great, seeing it was not a standard block at all. Evilclown93 18:01, 25 February 2007 (UTC) |
Do you think this is a personal attack?-- Domitius 18:11, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
There is a problem with the opinion of some Greeks about Macedonia. The other side can write whatever free!!!: ( user:Macedonian, user:Makedonia, user:Realek, user:Vlatkoto)......Nice politic in a free encyclopedia! Bravo!!!-- makedonas 23:25, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
NPWatcher is one of several semi-automated deletion tools available. It works just like VandalProof, and I've found it to be very useful thus far. As for the images, I don't have time to opine on them, but I feel there are probably better ones that there that don't have to be under fair use.. — P ilotguy push to talk 23:49, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
I saw you deleted the images at Abahlali baseMjondolo. Did you find their source? There was an editor who claimed that some of them were theirs. I'm just asking to see if you knew for sure that they weren't. Thanks, Smmurphy( Talk) 05:50, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Hmmm, maybe we should move that here? What ya reckon? Glen 13:14, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I notified the bot owner User_talk:ST47 Andreas (T) 15:49, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi! I was wondering, why you decided to delete the image Das.jpg? According to the log, you deleted because it was orphaned, and it wasn`t. It the scanned logo from the Departamento Administrativo de Seguridad, source: personal documents. Another editor added the quick deletion tag under the argumentation that it wasn`t the real logo, but in fact he created another one (with a very low quality, too low even for a fair use image and with the wrong scheme of color, by the way). Also you say that my image was superceded by Image:DepAdSegColombia.png which is false, because this is far away from the real logo, blue is wrong it lacks definition and it`s in 2D. Aaaaaand previously it have a self work coyrigth tag, which cannot happend since the owner of the copyrigth is the Colombian goverment. Image:Das.jpg is a low quality-more accurate representation, and it would be more usefull for the article.-- ometzit<col> 16:23, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I thought you might want to look at this IFD regarding an image of a playboy model. I notice that you deleted many such images. I have tagged some, and this one has been closed stating that fair use applies. The model is still alive. Care to contribute? -- Bob 16:50, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Greetings! Is it possible under fair use for me to upload one image of Kris at Deal or No Deal for the KDOND article, and another image of her at GKNB for the GKNB article? Thank you. John earlm 21:35, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I've unblocked Limetolime ( talk · contribs) per his request; he stated that he had read the image related policies per your request. Your block message indicated this as a pre-req, so I assumed it would not be an issue. Please feel free to reset the block if I made an incorrect assumption. Kuru talk 01:08, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Lee Nysted 03:27, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
I see you've previously warned this user for personal attacks. You might be interested in his latest comment at Talk:Great Fire of Smyrna:
Alexius they are not supported by any scholarly research. The Turkish bastards are supported by the NPOV policy which means that any Turkish act that portrays them in a bad light is not neutral and the sources are therefore biased. Please notice that the article on the Armenian genocide has to be blocked from editing (its history shows that even this widely acknowledged event was disputed by the Turkish editors). Lets hope this fascist nation stays out of Europe. -- Tedblack 14:36, 27 February 2007 (UTC) [43]
Please do something about it. Thanks, Khoi khoi 06:28, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Now he is using this IP [44]. Please RV all his edits and ban this IP. Thanks. Behnam 02:57, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Wow...I honestly thought that it wouldn't be able to be changed--I figured it was autoblocked automatically due to the number of times the IP had vandalized. But thank you so much for changing it to softblock! I can finally change that typo on my userpage! As well as go back to stopping vandals the minute I notice they've vandalized instead of waiting until I get home or hoping someone else notices. So thank you very, very much!! Irish ♣ Pearl 17:42, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I have put my view of things on the talk page of Genesis. I am not sure it will help, but maybe...
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Thank you.-- Yannismarou 18:30, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Hey -- I found a couple of playboy cover images you tagged as replacable fair use. I undid that in a couple of instances because I felt that the playboy cover adds much more to the article than a mere illustration of the person's appearance: it illustrates an important achievement of theirs. But then I found a couple more and I guess there might be a large pattern here I wasn't aware of. I do think my FU rationales have merit but since you were the one who had a problem with them, I wanted to ask what you think. (Part of the trouble is that the playmate infobox doesn't allow for a caption. When I readded the images, I put a caption explaining the importance of the image in the article). Mango juice talk 05:06, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Do you think you can get rid of the United Macedonia bit here? Thanks. /FunkyFly.talk_ 17:31, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Jabuuti ( talk · contribs) - I don't know what he's up to, but Macedonia (Greece) does not have a " Macedonian language" amongst its official languages. I tried to talk, no response. What do you think I should do?-- Domitius 20:21, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
This image Image:SI cover Feb 1999 Kathy Ireland.jpg violates fair use counterexample #7 which states "An image of a magazine cover, used only to illustrate the article on the person whose photograph is on the cover. However, if that magazine issue itself is notable enough to be a topic within the article, then fair use may apply." does not meet the criteria for fair use. [ [45]]. Please re-read fair use criteria. Wikidudeman (talk) 23:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
I would like to take an objection against block of Rex Germanus I can't see what wrong he did. You are mentioning moves in the article Konrad von Wallenrode, but I can't see what wrong he did. You also mentioned Antman's discussion with him, but I must note that Antman's edits and behavior are disruptive. On one side he calls for english usage on Wikipedia (as he showed many times) but in fact he refuses attempts in other article - interesting huh ? He is in broil with more editors and his userpage contained personal attacks and attack userbox (about Rex Germanus and other editors). Thus his conversation with Rex Germanus should not be included as a reason for his block. ≈Tulkolahten≈ ≈talk≈ 14:51, 5 March 2007 (UTC) Comment: check Antman's moves without consensus [49], does he deserve block for the same as Rex Germanus? apparently not. ≈Tulkolahten≈ ≈talk≈ 14:53, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
I condone and congratulate the block of Rex Germanus. I posted a comment onto his talk under the Block section, but he removed it. I do not believe his ban is too long. I have tried to reason with him in the past to no avail. He claims that I try to change articles to German equivalents; I am merely trying to change them to a name that is in ENGLISH already, with English taking precedence over foreign nomenclature. I have never tried to change Rhine to Rhein, though I can't say the same for my Polish counterparts ( Oder to Odra). He mass-edited articles knowing full-well the possible consequences and to simply make a point (to me, I am assuming); that should not go unpunished. Antman -- chat 20:40, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the alert, Future Perfect; what appears to be amiss...? David Kernow (talk) 07:45, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I removed it because it is a formal request for unblock review with pure objections on the talk page of completely independent administrator not involved in the conflict, Antman is involved in the conflict and his opinion in this request is completely irrelevant and disruptive, he did not provide any evidence he just screams it is a good block. Obviously for him, because he now took an advantage and in fact won the conflict. I still did not view correct reasons for his block, it is not about who wants or who doesn't, it is about the evidence and I did not see any. ≈Tulkolahten≈ ≈talk≈ 09:34, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Is it not bad form to remove entire reports from WP:ANI. While the user may desire to vanish, the truth is, there contributions here will always remain in the history. Should this user or a sockpupet of this user return, the information at that WP:ANI report, although a version is buried in the revision history, will not have its proper location in the archives. I am not going to revert what you did, I however am now openly stating now that I disagree with such actions. Btw, thanks for extending the block. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 16:27, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
"Some where else" could be a problem. They could move it very up. Hence keep them both in depiction as they are right now. please. --- ALM 17:39, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Hey, future. I've reverted the images back to the status quo for the time being. Nothing there should stop you from trying to generate a consensus for the veiled-at-top version, but as of this exact moment, it was clearly wrong of me to make that change, so i've reverted it back. ALM and company don't like it, Prob and company don't like it, and honestly I don't like it even though it was my suggestion! lol. I appreciate your attempt to make peace, but until that peace has been made, let's just stick with the policy at it currently stands. -- Alecmconroy 00:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
On second thought, I guess I'll reply at ANI, though someone appears to have overwritten your post. Could you formally close the still-open, unblock request box on User talk:Rex Germanus? Sandstein 20:17, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I would like to compliment you on the very diplomatic and fair way you handled the recent blocking of Rex. That was a pretty complicated and muddled issue. I think you showed the best spirit of adminship by not hiding behind the rules but in seeing the other's point of view/interests/rights, even when it did not coincide with your own. Arnoutf 08:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Can you please make it so that it preserves the history of Accession of Bulgaria to the European Union? Thanks. /FunkyFly.talk_ 21:59, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi Fut. Perf., you blocked two sockpuppets of User:DiamondVoice, User:TabloidPsyco and User:BLUNDERWOMAN. Would you mind taking a look at Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/DiamondVoice, where one more suspected sock is listed? It's User:REMOVALS, who's made some edits like DiamondVoice's. Thanks! --Akhilleus ( talk) 16:32, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for checking into that. Is there any chance you could look at some of the other cases on SSP? For some of them, it seems like there's strong evidence of sockpuppet use. For example, in Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/VacuousPoet (2nd) the users have self-identified as socks. Some other relatively clear cases are Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Bradles 01 (3rd), Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Winkers6767 (more self-identification), Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Rsbj66, and Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Terryfilene22. Thanks! --Akhilleus ( talk) 17:40, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Aerospace1980 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Khoi khoi 07:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Take a look (again) at my comment at User talk:Macedonia#Image tagging for Image:Macedonianlanguage2.jpg. Niko Silver 13:09, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
I think you missunderstood my point. I was about to give out with this and let wikipedia use a horrible image for the Das logo but finally someone make my point clear, i suck to explain things xD. so if you could please look at the review and comment about it. Ohh and another thing: please consider archiving again your talk page, since leaving this message is taking for ever-- ometzit<col> 17:40, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
With this IP address http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/202.134.132.248. Behnam 02:00, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Future Perfect at Sunrise. You're cordially invited to join the discussion on this page. By the way, how are you? I was very busy with my projects and could not edit for long time. With warmest regards. E104421 23:22, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
I would like to bring to your attention one of the most "anti-constructive" behaviours I've seen in a while - and I've seen many. This behaviour is even worse than the "old me", if you know what I mean. The editor intially came up with some, violently put, yet valid points, which made me conduct some further research and present a consensus. Then monsieur wasn't happy with the sourced information as it didn't agree to his personal opinion, thus he fared me well with what I consider a clear personal attack [55]. I may have not been affected if the PA if it weren't for the rest. I had shown my best and most co-operative self, by being open to all suggestions, providing referenced information etc, and what I got was a C class P.A. Then I insisted on knowing the cause of Mister's displeasing [56], but received a semi-sarcastic tag in the main article as a response [57]. But it doesn't end there. I swallowed everything and made another sincere effort to co-operate with the user, by leaving a message in his talk page. Little did I know, for he had been obsessing himself over the subject at such a degree, that he blanked out my message for no given reason [58]. He did the same with my second message [59], except that there, he responded with more hostility and sarcasm [60]. I removed those edits which I regarded offensive, but Mister judged for a moment that they were important enough to stay and reverted me in my own talk page [61]. He quickly remedied this action, probably after he realised that he was heading straight for a block. However, he chose that those edits were too good to be lost, and moved them altogether to his Talk page [62]. The conversation terminates after one more session of hostility, insults and bad sense of humour. I have never bothered with someone over a non-content-dispute issue before. However, this case is almost surreal, and the actor is a proper bully. It makes me feel that a disturbed individual goes around freely in the wp community. Such an obsessive behaviour, accompanied by unwillingness to co-operate, borderline personal attacks, uncivilty and sarcasm, is something that I find intolerable. What makes it even worse, is that he received a civil and cooperative behaviour from the very beginning, and that despite his prior insolent behaviour - not only did he not apologise - but rejected my further efforts reconciliation. Miskin 03:06, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi there. You helped me before with a non-notable trucker-related article, so I come to you again for a bit of help - I hope you don't mind. :-)
I don't think that Iloveblog.com is a very notable site, so I slapped a {db-web} tag onto the page like you suggested last time, but a user keeps deleting the tag. User:Foress created the page and removed the original tag, and what is probably that same user, User:60.50.23.74, recently did the same. Do you have any advice as to what I should do? Or maybe is there something that you can do, being an admin and all...
Anyway, I'll leave it in your capable hands for now. Thanks for reading. - GilbertoSilvaFan 13:33, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I read on WP:PUI that you tried to contact the editor, User:CalicoJackRackham , who uploaded those pictures. Did you had any luck on that? Personally I think all those images should be deleted, since he is not the photographer of all, but to be sure.... Garion96 (talk) 17:01, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Do you know much about Frisia and the Frisians? Khoi khoi 00:58, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Are you sure that this was a good idea considering that the last political rant was posted at the same time you delivered the warning (you both probably pressed "save" at the same time). Ehh, never mind, we can look forward to some quiet now :) -- Domitius 11:48, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
User Future Perfect at Sunrise (comment) wrote:
Hi, the transliteration we are using here at Wikipedia isn't "Greeklish", it's an internationally accepted standard, proposed by ELOT and adopted for official use at the UN and elsewhere (see [1]). Well, you even seem to be aware of that... It also isn't "simply wrong" but makes very sound sense linguistically. Anyway, it's not up to us as wikipedia editors to invent our own new transliteration schemes; we'd better stick with those that exist. I'd strongly advise you against pushing such a huge change against long-standing consensus here.
the internationally used ,for centuries or millenia, transliteration of greek to european latin-derived alphabets is not elot based.
elot transliteration doesn't make very sound sense linguistically.
it's not up to us as wikipedia editors to invent our own new transliteration schemes.
very true.but I didn't invent any personal scheme.If you check out any foreign (non neohellenic) academic source (universitities,texts,etc) on how greek to english (or any other western european language) transliterations take and have taken place,I believe that you will see a long standing tradition opposed to neohellenic ignorance.as I have mentioned
here ,
here and
here, greeklish in general or elot greeklish in particular is wrong from any perspective.
see you
Thanatos666 20:43, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
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Thank you very much for your feedback regarding my work so far. However I am quite confused regarding your decision to nominate my wordlist for transfer to Wikitonary. Why is it that the Portuguese wordlist should be moved while the French, English and Spanish lists remain as articles? Would it be helpful for me to mark these lists, or in the case of the Spanish one, the list portion, for transfer to Wikitonary? Wachowich 21:44, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Could you pleae move Qadaa to Kaza? Kaza is the more common term in English. I proposed the move on Talk:Qadaa over a week ago and there were no objections. I had previously merged the old Kaza article (about the Ottoman term) and the Qadaa article (about the modern use in Arab-speaking countries). Thanks, and Happy New Year! -- Macrakis 17:08, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Why didn't you warn Dodona for personal attacks? Miskin 09:36, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
That was an accident. Ranting or not I found his last edit really offensive. Miskin 10:58, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Hey, can you take a quick look here. I am having some serious problems with civility on Tajik's part. I tried being nice, being formal, being humorous, but he still comes back with all types of personal attacks and degrading comments, both about me, about Turks and about I don't know what. I reported him for 3RR yesterday, but nothing happened. But the main problem is with civility. Thanks Baristarim 01:07, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your catch on this article. I wasn't sure which to go with, I just knew that it neeed to start heading toward the door. Pastordavid 12:34, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
I just saw your edit summary - looks like you went to the trouble of filing that for nothing. -- Steel 13:18, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Haven't seen the "Nazi" thing, although he identified as a " white supremacist" in his userpage. And regarding the "help me help him" comment, I and a lot of other Greek editors here have really tried. A lot. Niko Silver 14:21, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
I did answer the questions though! Thanks for the info. I have to have 100 post?
Hi FTS. There is not exact date on which modern Greek literature begins. Conveniently we consider "Digenis Akritas" as the first script of the modern Greek literature, the first script that is different from medieval (Byzantine) Greek. Emmanuel Legrand, Mario Vitti, and others argue in their works about when modern Greek literature begins: 9th, 10th, 11th, 1204, 1453 or 1669. The truth is that none can come to a conclusion, since the differences between modern and Byzantine Greek are very few. The θα in the future tense came in usage after the Hellenistic-Roman times, about the same time when οσπίτιον->σπίτι replaced οικία and νεαρόν->νερόν ύδωρ replaced ύδωρ; this, on its own is not enough to say that the song is older. The Swiss Samuel Baud-Bovy, in his La chanson grecque (pages 163-174) places the song in the 9th century; so does Linos Politis, in his History of modern Greek literature (5. Το Δημοτικό τραγούδι, Κυρίως άσματα, σελ. 103). Also, Fauriel, the man who made the Demotika songs known in the West, referred to their ancient roots, and the early composition of this specific one. Goethe, in a letter to his son, Augustus, on July 5 1815, referred to the demotika songs' early origins (I will write it in German, since I have it:)...): Ein Freud der Neugriechen war bei mir, der Lieder dieses Volkes mit sich fürt, das Köstlichste in dem Sinne der lyrisch-dramatisch-epischen Poesie, was wir kennen (K. Dieterich, "Goethe und die neugriechische Volksdichtung", Hellas-Jahrbuch, 1929, pp 61-81, and, for the Greek translation that I've read Σ.Β. Κουγέας, Νέα Εστία 11, 1932, σελ. 621 και εξής). Also, "Digenis Akritas" seems to have arisen from the demotika songs (Linos Politis "L' epopee byzantine de Digenis Akritas. Problemes de la tradition du texte et des rapports avec les chansons akritiques" in "Atti del Convegno Internationale sul tema: La poesia epica e la sua formazione", Rome, Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei, 1970, pp 551-581. Also, the works of A. Pertusi); some academics say that it is in fact a composition of smaller demotika songs (the fact that in some places in Greece, only parts of this epic poem have survived during the ages, e.g. Η μονομαχία του Διγενή με τον Χάρο στα Μαρμαρένια Αλώνια, gives more credit to the demotika songs as an early modern Greek poetry-also have in mind that the link is unbroken, both towards ancient and modern times). Δεν έχω καταλάβει τί ακριβώς μου ζητάς για τις μελωδίες, την ηλικία και τη μετάδοση. Θα ψάξω να βρω παραπάνω στοιχεία για τη μετάδοση σε άλλους λαούς. Προς το παρόν, βρήκα αναλογία με την "Μπαλλάντα της Λεονώρας" στους δυτικούς ευρωπαϊκούς λαούς. You are right about the version that I have used in the article; it is the most widely known version, and the one I first read in my region. Unnecessary to refer to other versions, since there are too many. Apropos, the differences among them are, in fact, of no importance. The version I linked to is not the one I used for the translation (if u've noticed, line 39 of the translation, is missing from the link). Much regards Hectorian 19:00, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
That's strange, I just did a test print and it was quite large and legible. What kind of printer settings or browser are you printing off of? Also, what may be the interest in printing my page if I may ask :)? ¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 19:30, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes! Nice to be here! Do I have to change something in the page? I read something about changing the time. Do I have to? And if yes, what time exactly?!! At the top? The time of Aldux' signature? Thanks!-- Yannismarou 20:08, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I really hope this reasoning is not an one-off case. (I'm refering to this vs that) Niko Silver 22:49, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
If the Maniots article was to be merged then would all the infomation be added onto the Mani Peninsula article? Kyriakos 11:56, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
PLease have a look at what I said at the Maniots article talk page. Thanks. Kyriakos 12:02, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
My one true weakness. Tombseye 06:04, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. The checkuser actually wasn't done on wiki, but I can forward you the email if you want. I don't mind at all about the redirect either. Cheers, Khoi khoi 11:29, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm just trying to get information. I have never seen a process open to move the article; Ottoman Muslim casualties of World War I to Ottoman casualties of World War I. The current content does not include other parts of the Ottoman millet such as Ottoman Armenian casualties. If there is one could you give me the link. Or are you willing to collect all these articles under the article that you moved the content? Also what is your base on moving these articles? Historically speaking I do not know anything, if you give me some citations for this action, I would appreciate. -- OttomanReference 19:01, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
I replied here. There are some serious problems with that reasoning, and I will be applying it here as well. In fact you are right. The latest title can stay, but I hope that you will stick behind your reasoning and back me up when I will have moved the other article very soon. Thanks Baristarim 19:35, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Dear FPaS, Thanks for your contribution in template and sample use in Çanakkale. We have allready another variable there, "image" which has exactly same value as "sortkey". I am planning to delete "image" variable and use "sortkey" variable instead it, to keep as simple as possible. If I use, "sortkey" variable, for example in; "Image:{{{:sortkey}}} Turkey provinces Locator.jpg" will there be any problem with this variable.?
Regards Must TC 20:56, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. Regards. Must TC 21:15, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
You may right in hierarchical point of wiev.
Regards. Must TC 22:07, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
If you offer still stands, I'm willing to try and run the gauntlet... yandman 09:10, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Hello, Fut.Perf., Our intention at Phantis was indeed to create a free wiki, under GFDL, for yourselves - and anyone else - to freely use, copy, etc. At one point, it was brought to our attention that it was wrong for us to copy information from you without proper acknowledgement. We then created the "Credit Wikipedia" template which you may have noticed on several of our articles. Should you think that a better way exists, all suggestions are welcome. Hope this has been of help, if not, please contact Lazarus - the man who pays the bills in Phantis - for further discussion. I will let him know you contacted me. Many thanks for doing so and I hope we may continue to aid one another in our ultimate goal which is to spread knowledge freely on the web - -- Irlandos 11:33, January 22, 2007 (EST)
See my latest additions to Talk:Names of Istanbul. -- Macrakis 21:24, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
hello already i read your mensage and I see that you do not like my name of user not itself because I bother you my USERNAME of user that name it choised I because i like, i don't understand that ask me about my user and i don't know do that!!!-- Hjncfkdnmhbjk 00:57, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for having sounded like a process-wank. The entry just stuck out, and my brain was on auto-reply-mode. Personally I'd just have prodded that template, it really doesn't need a full blown TfD :) Charon X/ talk 01:33, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks 4 everything; I'm looking for the Ottoman Armenian casualties, I hope you show the same sensibility. -- OttomanReference 01:29, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Hmmm...this is a tough one. The current title is indeed ridiculous. The main problem that I see, is that the article is almost a POV fork of the Armenian Genocide page, making it seem like it was just a civil war. I know that Fadix wrote the Ottoman Armenian casualties article, he might be someone to ask. Another person I recommend is Cglassey—he is a historian who knows a great deal about the Ottoman Empire during World War I. However, to be honest, I really don't like either of those titles, and would prefer Something Completely Different... I need some time to think about this one I guess. Khoi khoi 09:01, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I think the new title will be fine, since it is a valid title and a topic that needs to be covered. However my point was that it would have been much better if another article was created and the content moved from "Muslim". Now it is the other article that has its history. Oh well.. On the other hand, I still have to register for the record that how this move happened was very disturbing. There should have been more consultation in the talk page, particularly since it was pointed out in the AfD that anybody could create the "Ottoman" article. Soon enough I am sure that there will be a new article at "Muslim" - but I know for a fact that many people are still going to vote delete or merge, no matter what BS they said in the AfD. There are people who cannot take the fact that there can be a seperate article - which is pretty racist IMO. FP.. Nearly every third-party editor in the PGG RfCs (including the first one (way back when) have voiced miscontent with the title (including many other third-party editors who are simply too afraid to step into the talk page). And every single new title is being rejected by the same editors on the same exact grounds. Not to mention the "revenge" at TRNC title-tag. What is your take on the situation? Baristarim 17:21, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm finding all this very annoying. The reasons why Baristarim & co. are so insistent on having "Muslim" in the title is so blatantly obvious that even Winnie the Pooh can work out what they are, and they are not in the BS the opposition to that view are being fed. The ulterior motives (which ultimately come down to Turkish-pushing) are crystal clear and were confirmed yet again with OttomanReference's dab page. Baris, do everyone a favor and stop accusing people of revenge (and other ad hominems), başarmıyacak... // Dirak 17:45, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
I confirm that Meta user m:User:Future Perfect at Sunrise, making this edit [4], is me. Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:01, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
... in good faith adding the article to AFD, having the decision be a resounding keep but move, then have this done and then have a new MFD promptly created? By all rights, I should have just speedy kept the AFD. If you would like, I can alert everyone. - Ta bu shi da yu 11:28, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Hiya, I just saw you extended Mitsos's block for evasion. I noticed an IP had been editing the page, but was hesitant to take action myself in case someone accuses me of picking on him. I've reverted the IP's edits per
WP:BLOCK, and semi-protected Hrisi Avgi. The protection is set to expire at exactly the same time as Mitsos's block
[5]
[6] (I've been waiting for a chance to try out that new toy feature). Just a heads up. --
Steel 13:23, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
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Hi, just wanted to talk to you about my user page. I don't really think that having a billingual list of cities in northern Greece is a big deal. But what really concerns me is the amount of offending content on other userpages and Wikipedians don't seem to mind at all, and they are wasting their time removing content from my page when really there are real discrimatory content on other pages. For example, User:Makedonas has on his userpage content that states my language doesn't exist and that its a dialect of another language, he is dening my nation saying that its "Tito's invention" and he also has political songs (no song is more political than an anthem), and he has an article of the city Kozani, and nowhere does it say that it that its not a Wikipedia Article but a user page. My userpage is not dening anyones language, race, or religion, his user page also says "Macedonia, 3000 years Greek history", if put on my user page "Macedonia, 3000 years of Macedonian history" it will probably get reverted. How about User:Asteraki ? Look at all the articles on his page, yet for some reason you are more concerned about a billingual list on my page. Macedonia 21:22, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Hello FP. A few days ago you blocked me due to what you saw a revert war between me and User: NisarKand on the Afghanistan article. What was actually happening was that Nisarkand was making a false claim and then using a FAKE (pretend) source to back it. By that I mean that he says one thing in the article but his source says something else. And that is why I had to revert. It was Nisarkand that was making a SERIOUS VIOLATION of Wiki's rules, providing false sources. I think that I should not have been given that ban and that Nisarkand should have punished accordingly to his violation. I will list a few times he has done this.
Now these are 2 major instances of Nisarkand providing fake sources for false claims. I have caught a few others but those were more minor. Additionally, User: Tajik has also caught this several times and he may also report a few examples of this violation.
Also the other day he uploaded a picture and gave it a total made up filename and description. I told other Admins about that and they deleted the picture so I can't show it to you now, but that was another one of his dishonest violations.
This, making stuff up and providing fake sources, is a very serious offense, so please try to do something about User: NisarKand. I think this is a very serious violation of the rules and I wouldn't be surprised if he was banned for it.
Thanks. -- Behnam 03:46, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Do you mind if I protect all the articles that Mywayyy is currently using as a playground? Khoi khoi 05:14, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
What is Wikipedia doing about those other articles on Smyrna 1922 (Destruction of Smyrna, Burning of Smyrna etc) that automatically revert to the ridiculous "Great Fire of Smyrna". Is this a turkish website or can alternative postings be accessed? THIS ISSUE MUST BE RESOLVED.-- Tedblack 12:54, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
οκ λοιπον, θα σεβαστω την αποψη σου μιας και το εχεις ψαξει περισσοτερο. ΑΧαχχααχ μα γιατι σε οποιον μιλαω για το μαρκοπουλο μου λεει για τα μουστοκουλουρα του Δαρεμα? Περαν την πλακα, οντως δεν υπαρχουν καλυτερα! Θα ηταν χαρα μου να σου στειλω κανα κιλο. Ελλαδα μενεις? ;)-- KaragouniS 15:18, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
ok φιλε, νασαι καλα τοτε :P -- KaragouniS 15:36, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Sorry που δεν απαντησα νωριτερα αλλα για καποιον λογο δεν ειχα δει το μυνημα σου. Οχι, δυστυχως δεν ξερω σχεδον καθολου αρβανιτικα εξαιτιας του οτι πλεον εχει ερθει πολυς ξενος κοσμος στο μαρκοπουλο (και γενικοτερα στα μεσογεια) και μιλαμε μονο με την κοινη ελληνικη. Μαλλον αυτη η γλωσσα χανεται σιγα σιγα...-- KaragouniS 17:30, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi Future. The map is still the same map of. However, it was reprinted in 2001. The source of it is the communist government of 1985, and thus, the map has no license. Tājik 16:57, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Δεν είμαι πια καλτσέμπορας! 23:54, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
It has come to my attention that you may have unfairly blocked ColtsXLI as he had only made one vandalizing edit and that was one that appears to have a possibility of being purely accidental.I only ask that in the future you first display a warning before jumping on the block train. Please do not treat it as a witch hunt everyone makes mistakes. Cylonhunter 02:45, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
I have editted the Maniots article so that it is not only the history of Mani but also the enthnology and culture. Could you please take a look at it and tell me what you hink and wether or not it should be merged with the Mani Peninsula article. Thanks. :) Kyriakos 08:33, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
OK!-- Yannismarou 08:39, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
It was Netsnipe who officially declined the request, btw. I don't really believe his story here, but I think we can't do much but to watch him. – Chacor 15:34, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
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Thank you.-- Yannismarou 20:31, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Bad little user! Steal Bishzilla's Supports! [13] Bad moon rising! Bishzilla | grrrr! 20:32, 25 January 2007 (UTC).
First, I didn't notice at all that I have violated 3RR rule before some day and that I have been reported. I agree, I shouldn't involve in edit warring, but sometimes it is hard to resist when someone is constantly reverting your edits. About Kicevo article, you cannot say I was going against consensus in that article (there is no previous consensus as I know, at least not in the article discussion page). Before some time, I and several other users agreed to have the following consensus about some of the Macedonian and Greek cities: if a special Name section exists, then any relevant name can be mentioned and explained there. That way we solved the edit warring in Bitola article, in Florina article and in other articles as well. Kicevo article also has a Name section. If you take a better look, you will see that I tried to discuss my actions in the discussion page, so they aren't blind reverts without any explanation. In addition, by further examination you can notice that other users were involved in edit warring as well: Khoikhoi did 3 reverts in the same day (23 January 2007), however, he/she at least discussed it in the discussion page, FunkyFly without any discussion did 3 reverts on 25 January 2007. I'm open for discussion and I hope we will find a consensus about that article. MatriX 12:22, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
No problem. As for the plainlinks, here's what my sig looks like on my computer:
I'm not sure why you don't see anything... Khoi khoi 07:24, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi Future, an attempt has just begun to resolve the Pontian Greek Genocide dispute through an arbitration committee. Since you have mediated there before, could you please voice your support or objection to such a measure here. Thanks, -- A.Garnet 16:33, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Any chance you'd be willing to let me know what you think of the concern I brought up on Jan. 10? As a classicist with no expertise whatsoever in phonology, I have long accepted the account in Allen, which I was taught. This account may be wrong, but what I really find unsettling is that it seems to have been falsely attributed to Allen in our Wikipedia articles. I'll be grateful for any response you may care to offer, either here or at the article's talk page. Wareh 17:15, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Hey future - the map looks great, could be used for both - however, the only suggestion you need is called an "overview". This is the little 'square' in the corner that shows a bigger area (like an entire map of Turkey) to show the user the area that your map covers... much like they do in National Geographic, or like I did with the Districts of Turkey maps. Thank you for the neutral input. Rarelibra 13:46, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
FP can you re-upload that map without the annoying (and off-centered) white border? It doesn't align with the rest of the pics in the infoboxes (and anywhere else). I'd do it myself, but I'd have to export the result in anything except svg (which is not supported by neither of my apps). Niko Silver 23:46, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
That one! |
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POSTSCRIPT - Ick! That phrase is like a swear word. I haven't found an easy way around it, and in many cases, I bypass the frustrations and attempts to counter its affects by doing things the 'old way' - digitizing manually. I know this doesn't help if you don't have a software with snap and autotrace... what are you using to capture the data into svg? At this point, I hit a brick wall because my experience with SVG is 'zero'. :( Rarelibra 14:26, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Wow! Great maps! Can you also learn me to make maps?! What programs do I need? Is it easy to learn? Can I easily uploap them then to Wikipedia?! I'm now reading the Aegean dispute article, and I intend to write a detailed review in its talk page.-- Yannismarou 15:52, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Awesome maps, awesome work in the article about the Aegean dispute. When you finish, you definitely need to feature it! Niko Silver 00:12, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
For Patras, how about comprmising with the Cypriot pronounciation of Batra or is it m'batra? That should keep us all democratically unhappy... kidding :-). Nice maps, takes ages to download. Politis 13:01, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Hey, can you keep an eye on the Turkey page for a while because of User:TedBlack? I don't know if you have been observing it but he is sneakily adding a lot of information to that article in a way to disrupt it blatantly. After the etymology addition was reverted, he added that the inflation was 27percent citing an unaccessible figure even thought the accessible inflation figure says it is 9 something. Thanks Baristarim 18:48, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for bringing that to my attention. After looking into things a bit more, I've unblocked and responded at User talk:Nwwaew. Luna Santin 19:19, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Are these users still under your informal revert parole? It looks like they've definitely violated it here: [14], and like E104421 has violated it here [15], and he's also racked up 3 more reverts today at a related article [16]. Dmcdevit· t 23:26, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
You hit the nail on the head- I edit from school, which uses the IP's 208.108.145.3/4/11/12. My home IP (24.50.211.226) is static, and only used at my home. But hey, if my temporary block gets rid of a lot of vandal sockpuppets and sleepers, then its worth it! Nwwaew ( Talk Page) ( Contribs) ( E-mail me) ( Review me!) 12:43, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
This'll be the one and only RfA thanks message I'll send out, because I don't think there's much point in them. Thanks for the offer and the eloquent nomination: hopefully my future administrative abuses won't reflect too poorly on yourself... :-) Cheers! yandman 08:06, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
The customary English spelling is Lemnos; as long as you are tweaking the map of Tenedos... Septentrionalis PMAnderson 19:20, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for you help on that page. I think I can sleep much better knowing that wikipedia no longer thinks appositives are literary devices. Whew. :) - grubber 22:56, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Ok thanks. But please let me know first before doing so. Maybe I put the wrong license or maybe I can justify the fair use better. But before deleting them, give me some time so I can check. Give me about 6 hours. Behnam 13:04, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Well apparently he doesn't intend to stop harassing the article. Even with my answers removed he keeps on replying anyway. I don't think he's ever gonna stop unless someone puts him into place. The only thing that frustrates me is that I can't reply as I would really want to. He clearly violates NPA with his personal attacks and racial comments, I don't think my replying is the real source the problem, nor that my silence will be its most efficient resolve. Miskin 00:30, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi Future,
I know i've already asked you, but since you were to a degree involved in the PGG article, could you give us your view on the arbitration attempt we are trying to get going. I'd appreciate if you could add your name either in favour or opposition to such a measure here. Thanks, -- A.Garnet 20:20, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Is there any policy or guideline on english wikipedia regarding to disapproval of group accounts? Hessam 23:14, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
He just broke the 1RR on Golden Horde and Huns. Is there any thing you can do about it? Khoi khoi 09:11, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
It is interesting that you have left no such message for Baristarim. His provocative statements that I am masking my true ID obviously do not carry the same weight. You have not heard the last of me. -- Tedblack 10:56, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Here's another sock puppet [ [17]]. He is not editing here on Wikipedia. He is now on WikiCommons and up to no good there. He's doing alot of vandalizing there. Take a look at his recent contributions [18]. If he is banned from here shouldn't he also be banned from Commons, Wiktionary, and others? Please take a look at that. His recent edits are all vandalism and he won't quit pushing for his POV even there. And if you can just please remove all his edits and undo all his edits. I know I should have contacted that other Admin, but you are most familiar with the situation so I decided to contact you. Thanks Behnam 07:34, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Ethnic idenitifcation is not independent of descent buddy, and thats a pretty ridiculous stement. THe vast majority of group requir e common descent as one of the main parts of an ethnos (people). Ethnos means "people", not merely nationality, culture or language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.92.92.176 ( talk • contribs)
FP, maybe you should shed a little light into this dark situation. I wouldn't like being the only Greek speaker to verify this, so just read my last comment and say if you agree. Thanks. Niko Silver 14:36, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Please watch the article List of Turkic states and empires. Some IP/newly registered user is vandalizing the article by deleting sources etc, and by replacing them with a POV copy from the Turkish wikipedia, with wrong English and stylistic mistakes. Tājik 18:28, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
irani, afhgani peoples arent care for turkic people. turkic history is written by turk. ok? i am official association personal in turkey. i will phone with england office of wikipedia. ok... tajik is saying lie... he often changes it.-- Offical 18:45, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Regarding this, I never really liked those kind of moves because you can't follow conversations from already existing diffs. Of course the policy doesn't really condemn either form of archiving and if it prevents Dodona reverting, then brilliant. Can you think of a good notice to place at the top of the page advising against general discussion on the talkpage.-- Domitius 13:49, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
As I'm sure you've noticed, socks are reverting at List of Turkic states and empires.-- Domitius 16:13, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
There seems to be a dead end in Slavic language (Greece). Any ideas for a way forward? In my opinion leaving the article as it is is a problem. We need to change it or mark it as POV. Generally though, I am a little bit disappointed. -- Michkalas 17:34, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of A Shanty No Lemon. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. GRBerry 03:56, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Yes, I saw that. In fact, it seems that u were not happy with most of the additions I made... However, u did not have to remove this, since I quote the specific articles, it is sourced by the Hellenic Ministry of foreign affairs, and I had editted it in a NPOV way (Greece claims that...). also, this was with regard to res inter alios acta further down. In the Convention between Italy and Turkey, 1932, u have practically explained thouroughly the Turkish position, but u have made no mention to the position of Greece and Italy, who consider the whole of the Convention valid. Hectorian 09:23, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
If you look HERE you will see that User:Shuppiluliuma is continuing to violate WP:CIVIL. I really don't appreciate his offensive and personal comments, such as "Blinded by nationalist pride, perhaps?" and "Some people are not only illiterate, but blind as well" (see diff). I warned him on his talk page, and he has now changed it... maybe there is hope, after all. Rarelibra 16:14, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I'd like a neutral opinion on an important matter which is getting out of hand. I'm of the opinion that the article Cretan Turks tends to become (and is in its current state) a POV-fork of Cretan Muslims. Certain editors do not agree and for that reason I'm trying to gather some non-partisan views. It doesn't require any specific knowledge on the topic, except keeping in mind that Cretan Muslims is well sourced and accepted by all editors. The problem lies in the fact that some editors insist on expressing a different (unreferenced) version of the story in a separate article. Thanks in advance. Miskin 17:32, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Yes it is supposed to be like you described, except that certain editors tend to edit the head of Cretan Turks in a way to describe Cretan Muslims, by making it its POV-fork. The current version is like that, and they don't intend to change it back despite its lack of sources. In other words, one version of the head makes Cretan Turks the Cretan Muslims of Turkey, and the second version (by Cretanforever) makes Cretan Turks = Cretan Muslims. I would only like from a non-partisan to acknowledge my theory on this - imagine that it's the only topic where me and Macrakis are on the same side. But if don't have time it's ok, it's not that urgent, besides it's a matter of time until the POV-fork is revealed. The most ironic thing is that they won't even let me a "disputed" tag. Miskin 18:09, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
The most annoying thing however is User:Khoikhoi's unjust behaviour. He reverted my edits 3 times supposedly because I needed a consensus before making edits (which were in fact a restoration of a 'stable' version) [20], though he had never asked for consensus from the edits which turned the original version into a POV-fork [21]. Furthermore, notice how sarcastic and provokative are his edit summaries when he reverts my versions. And notice how uncooperative he's been with me on several occasions [22]. And it's all about the specific article because I once said the phrase "end of story". I don't expect from you to be neutral about something that concerns another "fellow admin" but I'm letting you know anyway. On the specific article, Khoikhoi has been in several occasions reverting a clearly justified version (which always happens to be on my edit) supposedly enforcing people to reach a consensus. This attitude however enforces people who are trying to pass a POV, to continue supporting that POV (eventhough they are aware of it), precisely because their edit-war gets support from non-partisans - in this case an admin. And I'm willing to take the matter further. Miskin 18:29, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
You said: "Hi Yamla, in the interest of not-BITEing, I'm inclined to unblock 129.31.65.133 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) whose request you declined. From his edits before the issue with the cite template, I'm quite certain there was no intent to vandalise but a good-faith effort at improving the article. This was just a newbie failure to understand the cite template and a failure to get the message when warned."
Honestly, I too knew that the RfC was frivilous, but I thought it was a good opportunity to spell out why the user should be look into. I was actually surprised that the user had actually not been banned by now, so I wanted to write out exactly what the problem was. Kelvinc 00:16, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't think the comparsion of Miskin and Barış' edit proves anything, because he edited the page through AWB. Miskin's edits were clear whitewashing of the exodus of the Cretan Turks. Do you think they chose to leave Crete? I am surprised that you are taking Miskin's side on this, just look at his insults on the talk page to understand why I don't want to talk to him. Khoi khoi 02:08, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you with this article again. I think that during the rather prolonged discussion there I have cited some sources supporting the claim that the heading and the content of the article was POV. The content is now less so (tough it needs to be more consistent with the citations). Trudgill's quote shows that referring to the Slavonic languages in Greece as simply "Slavika" or, as in the heading of the article, "Slavic language (Greece)" is POV. "Greek non-linguists, when they acknowledge the existence of these dialects at all, frequently refer to them by the label Slavika, which has the implication of denying that they have any connection with the languages of the neighboring countries. " We need thus a new heading. I believe either "Macedonian language in Greece" (explaining in the article their exact classification and geographic distribution) or "Slavic languages in Greece" (in that case Pomakika should have an equal part in the article) are good headings. The choice for "Macedonian language in Greece" is also endorsed by the fact that the rest of the article, that is the Abecedar, Metaxas and Rainbow, refers to Macedonian. The part on "Bulgarian Human Rights in Macedonia" can maybe included in the article on Minorities in Greece. I am writing these to you and not at the article talk page, because you can maybe propose something which can be acceptable by everybody, while my proposal could be faced with suspicion. I can not promise that, because I called you, I will not necessarily disagree :), but I do not want to have another quarrel over this with Dometius and Kekrops and I would prefer to see a consensus on the changes needed. Thanks for your time, -- Michkalas 13:40, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
He is using this ip address [25] -- Behnam 13:56, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Would you explain what does "invalid fair-use claim" mean? http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Battle_of_Karbala&diff=107367802&oldid=107367147 Best. Farhoudk 19:10, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, as a commons admin, could you perhaps have a look at the contributions of commons:User:Ibrahimjon there? He's uploaded a number of images, for instance Image:Abuali Sino Avicenna.jpg, credited to a painter called "Immodinova C." and at the same time claimed to be released as "own work" - but his own real name as per his userpage doesn't match, he calls himself Ibrahimjon Rustamov there. Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:14, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
I have deleted the image (and put a photograph to the article). Sorry about it, this is an afterglow of the {{ PD-USSR}} license. Alex Bakharev 22:28, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
...then it is the responsibility of the law-maker to shut those windows. Just see WT:U#Countries et al and try to distance yourself from familiar cases. Niko Silver 22:32, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the prompt reply to my appeal of the blocking of my user name (Silent Sphinctre). I won't be bothering you any further about this, but I do find it a bit hypocritical that a place called Wikipedia bans mention of an anatomical feature which is primarily concerned with inoffensive functions (see Sphincter). Honest, the first time I saw the name Wikipedia, my filthy little mind made a connection to the indecent meanings of wick right away. As I said, I won't be bothering you further about this, and you have given me an explanation, so no reply is necessary. Anyway, I won't be logging in again under that name and wouldn't see it.
A good read, I'll read through it again later, a few thoughts of my own.
pgk 13:01, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
[26] Khoi khoi 15:37, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Iconic status of the image "Ashura afternoon" is a reality in various countries in the middle east which may be unknown for other people around the world. The same things may happen for image of Picasso's Guernica, to be unknown for the people in the middle east. Is there any exact definition for the term "iconic" to help us better underestand which image could be used and which one should not be used in a specific article? Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Battle_of_Karbala#Fair_use_image_of_Farshchiyan_http:.2F.2Ffarshchianart.com
Also See: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Battle_of_Karbala&diff=107573235&oldid=107528877
Best. Farhoudk 16:14, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Fut.Per. I'm very sorry about the latest trouble i brought about the parole. Dmcdevit is quite right in his decision about the revert parole. Sorry, i misled you, cause i really forgot the Golden Horde is in the list. Apologizing. Best wishes. E104421 21:19, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the help with Shup(etc). I tried to reason with him, but for whatever reason he decided to go off the deep end. Hopefully he will catch his breath for a while and come back to make more meaningful contributions.
On another note, I need your assistance, if possible. User:Pmanderson is attempting to slander me due to personal disagreements he and I have had. The diff is HERE, I don't think it is allowed for him to slander me in a professional discussion on a talk page due to disagreements that he and I have had (and we were both blocked for 24 hrs punishment for 3RR). He is upset that I disagree on his philosophy on a certain topic and is trying to get back at me due to my involvement in the discussion. Rarelibra 22:31, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Well it seemed pretty clear to me based on the fact that he reverted to AP's versions on all those 10 pages, and was extremely persistent in it. Also, if he isn't his sockpuppet, based on the comments on his talk page, I guess we could call him a meatpuppet, and according to the policy:
The Arbitration Committee has ruled that, for the purpose of dispute resolution, when there is uncertainty whether a party is one user with sock puppets, or several users acting as meatpuppets, they may be treated as one individual.
However, I guess we could assume good faith and unblock him, on the condition that he not revert the articles anymore, and try to get consensus for his edits. How does that sound? Khoi khoi 02:45, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks:) I'll try to contribute positively to wikipedia Ceha 02:45, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Tigran's court image had the wrong tag. It was not a fair use image. It originally had the pd soviet tag, when that became defunct it was erroniously replaced with the fair use tag instead of the applicable pd russia tag.-- Ευπάτωρ Talk!! 18:03, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Thought you might be interested in Jimbo's comment, certainly seems to suggest the intent of the recent announcement is to tighten our policies. -- pgk 20:32, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Hey FPS, can you please point me to the diff where Mursili tells you that he's not Greier but his brother or something like that? He just doesn't intend to stop making socks and refuses it to the last moment. I'm after some more of his socks and I need some evidence on his persistence in order to blow his cover. Miskin 22:12, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Is there any proof of the RFC he once started against me? Miskin 22:16, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
He's been creating socks one after the other, check here [30] here [31] and here [32]. As usually he doesn't admit any of it and blames it on me. I've been enforcing the WP:BAN advice of reverting a banned user's edits. This makes his sockpuppets easily detectable as he can't help himself from getting into disputes and rv-wars. Miskin 23:16, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Oh and sorry about the section thing, it's just that some people (like Nikosilver) prefer it the other way around. Miskin 23:17, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
There is a banned user; who is constantly trying to revert the article to a version that has copy right issues. user is User:Shuppiluliuma he has been using different IP numbers to change the version with the copyrighted images. The review is [ review]. The last edited revision is. Thanks 4Ur help. -- OttomanReference 01:53, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Could you do something about the socks at Skopje (s-protection maybe). Dirak 15:02, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
These articles seem to have reached an impasse. Most of the editors are pushing one POV or the other, and refuse to engage in constructive dialogue. Most of the editors are being uncivil and confrontational. Well-sourced content has been removed. Yet another POV fork has been created ( Crete Province, Ottoman Empire) with content which is an unformatted cut-and-paste from Cretan Muslims (some of that page really should go onto a general History of Ottoman Crete page, but not all of it). The non-English you complained about has been restored. I don't have the time to deal with all this bullshit, which is why I avoided the articles in the first place. Is there some way to move things forward? -- Macrakis 18:04, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
A. Garnet the Pontian Greek Genocide is a dissimilar example - at least it does meet consensus in Greek sources. Cretanforever's caprices in Cretan Turks and the likes are a clear violation of WP:POLICY. Miskin 22:05, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I am blocked by the spam filter from reverting a simple anon vandalism at Ottoman Empire. I left a note at meta, but I just can't seem to nail down which web-site is concerned and how it ended up in the spam list. What can be done? By the way, I am sorry for not replying to you earlier about your post about user Offical.. I was away for a couple of days.. I will try to keep an eye on the situation. Cheers! Baristarim 22:21, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
As for the other articles.. Unfortunately the same old, sorry about that... Baristarim 22:21, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Is this to be reverted? Can you give it a look please? Niko Silver 10:37, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your efforts about the Babek picture. Unfortunately, it seems those CAIS people failed to tell you that they themselves based their page on Wikipedia, both the text (which is obviously based on the earlier text we had here) and probably the image (their copy seems to be a scaled-down version of ours, which in turn was taken earlier from the azeripainting site.) And of course, they've provided no explanation how they came to own the painter's copyright. Do they own the original painting? - Sorry, but I can't see how they can then license that thing back to us. Fut.Perf. ☼ 21:48, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for the late reply. Yep, that e-mail should make it clear that the new version is okay, since they plausibly claim to own the copyright and they have clearly released it under GFDL. Thanks for your efforts and your patience in dealing with this! Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:16, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Dear Fut.Perf. Is there any possibility to delete the image [34] that I originally uploaded on 15th February at 07:29 [35] to prevent any future confusion? Regards ← ← Parthian Shot (Talk) 15:40, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Could you check the Atatürk page regarding User:DragutBarbarossa. I believe DragutBarbarossa and his friend having a personal vendetta against my edits. Thanks -- OttomanReference 02:48, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
I noticed you deleted the Robert Horry pic. Being as it was listed under a creative commons license I'm wondering why. Although I also have doubts as to whether it was taken by the fan, the angle it was taken from it looks like it was coming from the stands and I/like you have no proof it actually wasn't. Assuming you don't have evidence it was a copyvio can you tell my you deleted it? Here's the source again by the way: [36] Quadzilla99 15:13, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, I think I'm going to have to keep it semiprotected when I'm not online. yandman 18:14, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I'm sure you know there's been a fuss around this. I really don't understand how unexplained reverts may be tolerated there. Espaecially with the audacity of asking for explanations that have been provided in all sorts of places including your talk above, and with the further audacity of invoking a consensus to which they haven't taken part. I look forward to your help in sorting this out. Niko Silver 01:35, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi FPaS, I am sorry if I caused trouble. I removed all links to this image, but I honestly don't understand why you think it's a problem. I mean the picture isn't a candiate for the pultizer price, or contains something creative. We will profit nothing if we post it here. It is also used by other sites [37], including the website you posted. This website [38] is not the original owner, You can see the "author" field there empty, i.e. they themselve don't know the author ;) Anyway, the image isn't that important. Jidan 01:47, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
I, i have noticed that you have deleted sports trainer article, was the only reason for the deletion because it was created by a banned user? If so is it ok for me to re-create it?
( James West (Force Pavilion) 05:23, 20 February 2007 (UTC))
Well You seemed not to know the situation here..Fan events and talk shows drags hundreds of fans and with the modern cameras they poses coupled with image soft wares any one can create perfect professional looking photos..I can accept your argument about the first photo, even though that one is certainly not copyrighted..unless you prove that later photos are copyrighted,I don't think your threatens going to stop me from adding them,rightfully, I would say.thanks -- Iwazaki 16:00, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Some events in the story I have to tell take place before the time in which the story takes place, which is already in the past. It’s these past-perfect events that leave some people guessing, I guess.-- ЦпғогgеттаЫе 07:15, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I've changed the copyright status. Now, if something is incorrect, you can fix it too. thnx for the advice.. Armando.O talk • Ev 18:17, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Somewhere in the last two days I apologized for removing the tag. I misread the text where it said the tag could be removed if a valid FU rationale was posted. I missed the part about being an admin. In any case, I would like to see some sort of global discussion about these images. -- evrik ( talk) 15:24, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Hello. Was just wondering why you removed the "Permission" magazine cover from the Pauley Perrette page. Thanks.... SVRTVDude ( Yell - Toil) 22:59, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Could you please tell me how wikipedia is better off without Sports trainer article, and why you think that this article should not be on wikipedia? Thank You. ( Kylie 04:36, 24 February 2007 (UTC))
I am going to re-create the Sports trainer article, i have improved it, and am not a banned user, so there is no reason why it should be deleted again. Thank You ( Kylie 04:48, 24 February 2007 (UTC))
Right, but who owns the images? I have searched and searched and you can find most of them on google just because there the owners doesn't mean anything, I have a website also I can upload images and claim its my website but no info on who owns the images. Artaxiad 14:05, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Looks like someone tries very hard to clean wikipedia of images, uploaded by Azerbaijani users. These images were uploaded by their respective owners, and are used with permission. I don't think that they should be deleted. This will deprive many articles of good illustrations and will not benefit wikipedia. Grandmaster 16:08, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
The Surreal Barnstar | ||
I, Evilclown, award you this barnstar for the block you made on Macedonia. I think the move was great, seeing it was not a standard block at all. Evilclown93 18:01, 25 February 2007 (UTC) |
Do you think this is a personal attack?-- Domitius 18:11, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
There is a problem with the opinion of some Greeks about Macedonia. The other side can write whatever free!!!: ( user:Macedonian, user:Makedonia, user:Realek, user:Vlatkoto)......Nice politic in a free encyclopedia! Bravo!!!-- makedonas 23:25, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
NPWatcher is one of several semi-automated deletion tools available. It works just like VandalProof, and I've found it to be very useful thus far. As for the images, I don't have time to opine on them, but I feel there are probably better ones that there that don't have to be under fair use.. — P ilotguy push to talk 23:49, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
I saw you deleted the images at Abahlali baseMjondolo. Did you find their source? There was an editor who claimed that some of them were theirs. I'm just asking to see if you knew for sure that they weren't. Thanks, Smmurphy( Talk) 05:50, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Hmmm, maybe we should move that here? What ya reckon? Glen 13:14, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I notified the bot owner User_talk:ST47 Andreas (T) 15:49, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi! I was wondering, why you decided to delete the image Das.jpg? According to the log, you deleted because it was orphaned, and it wasn`t. It the scanned logo from the Departamento Administrativo de Seguridad, source: personal documents. Another editor added the quick deletion tag under the argumentation that it wasn`t the real logo, but in fact he created another one (with a very low quality, too low even for a fair use image and with the wrong scheme of color, by the way). Also you say that my image was superceded by Image:DepAdSegColombia.png which is false, because this is far away from the real logo, blue is wrong it lacks definition and it`s in 2D. Aaaaaand previously it have a self work coyrigth tag, which cannot happend since the owner of the copyrigth is the Colombian goverment. Image:Das.jpg is a low quality-more accurate representation, and it would be more usefull for the article.-- ometzit<col> 16:23, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I thought you might want to look at this IFD regarding an image of a playboy model. I notice that you deleted many such images. I have tagged some, and this one has been closed stating that fair use applies. The model is still alive. Care to contribute? -- Bob 16:50, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Greetings! Is it possible under fair use for me to upload one image of Kris at Deal or No Deal for the KDOND article, and another image of her at GKNB for the GKNB article? Thank you. John earlm 21:35, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I've unblocked Limetolime ( talk · contribs) per his request; he stated that he had read the image related policies per your request. Your block message indicated this as a pre-req, so I assumed it would not be an issue. Please feel free to reset the block if I made an incorrect assumption. Kuru talk 01:08, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Lee Nysted 03:27, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
I see you've previously warned this user for personal attacks. You might be interested in his latest comment at Talk:Great Fire of Smyrna:
Alexius they are not supported by any scholarly research. The Turkish bastards are supported by the NPOV policy which means that any Turkish act that portrays them in a bad light is not neutral and the sources are therefore biased. Please notice that the article on the Armenian genocide has to be blocked from editing (its history shows that even this widely acknowledged event was disputed by the Turkish editors). Lets hope this fascist nation stays out of Europe. -- Tedblack 14:36, 27 February 2007 (UTC) [43]
Please do something about it. Thanks, Khoi khoi 06:28, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Now he is using this IP [44]. Please RV all his edits and ban this IP. Thanks. Behnam 02:57, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Wow...I honestly thought that it wouldn't be able to be changed--I figured it was autoblocked automatically due to the number of times the IP had vandalized. But thank you so much for changing it to softblock! I can finally change that typo on my userpage! As well as go back to stopping vandals the minute I notice they've vandalized instead of waiting until I get home or hoping someone else notices. So thank you very, very much!! Irish ♣ Pearl 17:42, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I have put my view of things on the talk page of Genesis. I am not sure it will help, but maybe...
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Thank you.-- Yannismarou 18:30, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Hey -- I found a couple of playboy cover images you tagged as replacable fair use. I undid that in a couple of instances because I felt that the playboy cover adds much more to the article than a mere illustration of the person's appearance: it illustrates an important achievement of theirs. But then I found a couple more and I guess there might be a large pattern here I wasn't aware of. I do think my FU rationales have merit but since you were the one who had a problem with them, I wanted to ask what you think. (Part of the trouble is that the playmate infobox doesn't allow for a caption. When I readded the images, I put a caption explaining the importance of the image in the article). Mango juice talk 05:06, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Do you think you can get rid of the United Macedonia bit here? Thanks. /FunkyFly.talk_ 17:31, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Jabuuti ( talk · contribs) - I don't know what he's up to, but Macedonia (Greece) does not have a " Macedonian language" amongst its official languages. I tried to talk, no response. What do you think I should do?-- Domitius 20:21, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
This image Image:SI cover Feb 1999 Kathy Ireland.jpg violates fair use counterexample #7 which states "An image of a magazine cover, used only to illustrate the article on the person whose photograph is on the cover. However, if that magazine issue itself is notable enough to be a topic within the article, then fair use may apply." does not meet the criteria for fair use. [ [45]]. Please re-read fair use criteria. Wikidudeman (talk) 23:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
I would like to take an objection against block of Rex Germanus I can't see what wrong he did. You are mentioning moves in the article Konrad von Wallenrode, but I can't see what wrong he did. You also mentioned Antman's discussion with him, but I must note that Antman's edits and behavior are disruptive. On one side he calls for english usage on Wikipedia (as he showed many times) but in fact he refuses attempts in other article - interesting huh ? He is in broil with more editors and his userpage contained personal attacks and attack userbox (about Rex Germanus and other editors). Thus his conversation with Rex Germanus should not be included as a reason for his block. ≈Tulkolahten≈ ≈talk≈ 14:51, 5 March 2007 (UTC) Comment: check Antman's moves without consensus [49], does he deserve block for the same as Rex Germanus? apparently not. ≈Tulkolahten≈ ≈talk≈ 14:53, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
I condone and congratulate the block of Rex Germanus. I posted a comment onto his talk under the Block section, but he removed it. I do not believe his ban is too long. I have tried to reason with him in the past to no avail. He claims that I try to change articles to German equivalents; I am merely trying to change them to a name that is in ENGLISH already, with English taking precedence over foreign nomenclature. I have never tried to change Rhine to Rhein, though I can't say the same for my Polish counterparts ( Oder to Odra). He mass-edited articles knowing full-well the possible consequences and to simply make a point (to me, I am assuming); that should not go unpunished. Antman -- chat 20:40, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the alert, Future Perfect; what appears to be amiss...? David Kernow (talk) 07:45, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I removed it because it is a formal request for unblock review with pure objections on the talk page of completely independent administrator not involved in the conflict, Antman is involved in the conflict and his opinion in this request is completely irrelevant and disruptive, he did not provide any evidence he just screams it is a good block. Obviously for him, because he now took an advantage and in fact won the conflict. I still did not view correct reasons for his block, it is not about who wants or who doesn't, it is about the evidence and I did not see any. ≈Tulkolahten≈ ≈talk≈ 09:34, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Is it not bad form to remove entire reports from WP:ANI. While the user may desire to vanish, the truth is, there contributions here will always remain in the history. Should this user or a sockpupet of this user return, the information at that WP:ANI report, although a version is buried in the revision history, will not have its proper location in the archives. I am not going to revert what you did, I however am now openly stating now that I disagree with such actions. Btw, thanks for extending the block. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 16:27, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
"Some where else" could be a problem. They could move it very up. Hence keep them both in depiction as they are right now. please. --- ALM 17:39, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Hey, future. I've reverted the images back to the status quo for the time being. Nothing there should stop you from trying to generate a consensus for the veiled-at-top version, but as of this exact moment, it was clearly wrong of me to make that change, so i've reverted it back. ALM and company don't like it, Prob and company don't like it, and honestly I don't like it even though it was my suggestion! lol. I appreciate your attempt to make peace, but until that peace has been made, let's just stick with the policy at it currently stands. -- Alecmconroy 00:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
On second thought, I guess I'll reply at ANI, though someone appears to have overwritten your post. Could you formally close the still-open, unblock request box on User talk:Rex Germanus? Sandstein 20:17, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I would like to compliment you on the very diplomatic and fair way you handled the recent blocking of Rex. That was a pretty complicated and muddled issue. I think you showed the best spirit of adminship by not hiding behind the rules but in seeing the other's point of view/interests/rights, even when it did not coincide with your own. Arnoutf 08:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Can you please make it so that it preserves the history of Accession of Bulgaria to the European Union? Thanks. /FunkyFly.talk_ 21:59, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi Fut. Perf., you blocked two sockpuppets of User:DiamondVoice, User:TabloidPsyco and User:BLUNDERWOMAN. Would you mind taking a look at Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/DiamondVoice, where one more suspected sock is listed? It's User:REMOVALS, who's made some edits like DiamondVoice's. Thanks! --Akhilleus ( talk) 16:32, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for checking into that. Is there any chance you could look at some of the other cases on SSP? For some of them, it seems like there's strong evidence of sockpuppet use. For example, in Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/VacuousPoet (2nd) the users have self-identified as socks. Some other relatively clear cases are Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Bradles 01 (3rd), Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Winkers6767 (more self-identification), Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Rsbj66, and Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Terryfilene22. Thanks! --Akhilleus ( talk) 17:40, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Aerospace1980 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Khoi khoi 07:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Take a look (again) at my comment at User talk:Macedonia#Image tagging for Image:Macedonianlanguage2.jpg. Niko Silver 13:09, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
I think you missunderstood my point. I was about to give out with this and let wikipedia use a horrible image for the Das logo but finally someone make my point clear, i suck to explain things xD. so if you could please look at the review and comment about it. Ohh and another thing: please consider archiving again your talk page, since leaving this message is taking for ever-- ometzit<col> 17:40, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
With this IP address http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/202.134.132.248. Behnam 02:00, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Future Perfect at Sunrise. You're cordially invited to join the discussion on this page. By the way, how are you? I was very busy with my projects and could not edit for long time. With warmest regards. E104421 23:22, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
I would like to bring to your attention one of the most "anti-constructive" behaviours I've seen in a while - and I've seen many. This behaviour is even worse than the "old me", if you know what I mean. The editor intially came up with some, violently put, yet valid points, which made me conduct some further research and present a consensus. Then monsieur wasn't happy with the sourced information as it didn't agree to his personal opinion, thus he fared me well with what I consider a clear personal attack [55]. I may have not been affected if the PA if it weren't for the rest. I had shown my best and most co-operative self, by being open to all suggestions, providing referenced information etc, and what I got was a C class P.A. Then I insisted on knowing the cause of Mister's displeasing [56], but received a semi-sarcastic tag in the main article as a response [57]. But it doesn't end there. I swallowed everything and made another sincere effort to co-operate with the user, by leaving a message in his talk page. Little did I know, for he had been obsessing himself over the subject at such a degree, that he blanked out my message for no given reason [58]. He did the same with my second message [59], except that there, he responded with more hostility and sarcasm [60]. I removed those edits which I regarded offensive, but Mister judged for a moment that they were important enough to stay and reverted me in my own talk page [61]. He quickly remedied this action, probably after he realised that he was heading straight for a block. However, he chose that those edits were too good to be lost, and moved them altogether to his Talk page [62]. The conversation terminates after one more session of hostility, insults and bad sense of humour. I have never bothered with someone over a non-content-dispute issue before. However, this case is almost surreal, and the actor is a proper bully. It makes me feel that a disturbed individual goes around freely in the wp community. Such an obsessive behaviour, accompanied by unwillingness to co-operate, borderline personal attacks, uncivilty and sarcasm, is something that I find intolerable. What makes it even worse, is that he received a civil and cooperative behaviour from the very beginning, and that despite his prior insolent behaviour - not only did he not apologise - but rejected my further efforts reconciliation. Miskin 03:06, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi there. You helped me before with a non-notable trucker-related article, so I come to you again for a bit of help - I hope you don't mind. :-)
I don't think that Iloveblog.com is a very notable site, so I slapped a {db-web} tag onto the page like you suggested last time, but a user keeps deleting the tag. User:Foress created the page and removed the original tag, and what is probably that same user, User:60.50.23.74, recently did the same. Do you have any advice as to what I should do? Or maybe is there something that you can do, being an admin and all...
Anyway, I'll leave it in your capable hands for now. Thanks for reading. - GilbertoSilvaFan 13:33, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I read on WP:PUI that you tried to contact the editor, User:CalicoJackRackham , who uploaded those pictures. Did you had any luck on that? Personally I think all those images should be deleted, since he is not the photographer of all, but to be sure.... Garion96 (talk) 17:01, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Do you know much about Frisia and the Frisians? Khoi khoi 00:58, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Are you sure that this was a good idea considering that the last political rant was posted at the same time you delivered the warning (you both probably pressed "save" at the same time). Ehh, never mind, we can look forward to some quiet now :) -- Domitius 11:48, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
User Future Perfect at Sunrise (comment) wrote:
Hi, the transliteration we are using here at Wikipedia isn't "Greeklish", it's an internationally accepted standard, proposed by ELOT and adopted for official use at the UN and elsewhere (see [1]). Well, you even seem to be aware of that... It also isn't "simply wrong" but makes very sound sense linguistically. Anyway, it's not up to us as wikipedia editors to invent our own new transliteration schemes; we'd better stick with those that exist. I'd strongly advise you against pushing such a huge change against long-standing consensus here.
the internationally used ,for centuries or millenia, transliteration of greek to european latin-derived alphabets is not elot based.
elot transliteration doesn't make very sound sense linguistically.
it's not up to us as wikipedia editors to invent our own new transliteration schemes.
very true.but I didn't invent any personal scheme.If you check out any foreign (non neohellenic) academic source (universitities,texts,etc) on how greek to english (or any other western european language) transliterations take and have taken place,I believe that you will see a long standing tradition opposed to neohellenic ignorance.as I have mentioned
here ,
here and
here, greeklish in general or elot greeklish in particular is wrong from any perspective.
see you
Thanatos666 20:43, 12 March 2007 (UTC)