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Looks like this one is just about good, just a few bits in the plot summary that need sourcing. :) BOZ ( talk) 21:09, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
"I, the copyright holder". Enough said. Oc t ane [ improve me? 17.05.09 0348 (UTC)
Ahem! [1] ;) — Martin ( MSGJ · talk) 07:29, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Could you explain why your bot changed <references/> once to {{reflist}} and then in another edit changed {{reflist}} to <references/>? Also, I understand that the correct format is <references /> with a blank preceding the closing slash. One way and the other -- Michael Bednarek ( talk) 14:19, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
User:AlexNewArtBot/DnDSearchResult/archive1 - I added several pages to the watchlist from there. :) BOZ ( talk) 16:51, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Delivered by SoxBot ( talk) at 12:47, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Do you have an opinion on this statement? – Quadell ( talk) 15:10, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Biography#Templates Bio Portals need to be placed just above catagories. No "See also" needed. Your "drilbot" is placing them in the wrong location. I changed it at: Phillip Pearsall Carpenter Jrcrin001 ( talk) 08:23, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
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Wow, thanks! – Drilnoth ( T • C • L) 12:32, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
It would be preferable not to correct this by bot at all. The MOS statement is largely historic; the preference against it derives largely from autoformatting, which needs a clean format (April 15 or 15 April, no modified forms) to start from.
You will get a large number of false positives: book titles, quotes, and deliberate usages for emphasis or euphony.
My congratulations on your bot, however. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 15:33, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Any claim that MOS is long-standing consensus on anything should be taken with several grains of salt. In this case, the two forms were originally chosen because they were amenable to autoformatting, and this far-reaching discussion touches upon the matter. I see little consensus there or anywhere else. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:49, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Drilnoth, thanks! I'm going to make sure a discussion report comes out next week, so anything you do for that would help a lot: Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2009-05-25/Discussion report. Piecemeal contributions to "News and notes" and "In the news" are also always appreciated (and drafts for those are usually linked from the planning room), and if there's a special story you want to write, just let me know (or just write it). There are a lot of academic studies of Wikipedia that either don't get covered in much depth or slip through the Signpost altogether (and often don't even get listed on that academic studies page), so if that's something that interests you, you could pick a few recent studies to report on.-- ragesoss ( talk) 16:02, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
If you would like any help with a discussion report, just ask me. I thought about volunteering, but I'm not confident I could help week after week. But I've found I work well with you, so if you're involved in something for it and want a hand, or if you're not sure how to word something, give me an orange bar. :) – Quadell ( talk) 01:51, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, but I have to question the value of changing all the image links from "image" to "Image" when the former worked perfectly well...? Thanks— GRM ( talk) 21:59, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Drilbot made a mistake
here - moved the comment about persondata away from {{persondata}}
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Erasing the whole section was a mistake, I just was making my bot trial and only fixed the local list, but I already putted the section back its place. Cheers Locos ~ epraix Beaste~ praix 02:32, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I suspect there's an issue with one of the modules. See my post at;
I've not yet tried AutoEd; have not read the whole page yet. This is the next thing, right? Cheers, Jack Merridew 11:27, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Confirmed; I just did the complete install and went back to Saipan and it offered to break the link again. Cheers, Jack Merridew 11:40, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure how common the use of the pipe is in URLs. That the census.gov CMS is using it would indicate that it's a common enough sort of link. See, although a lot are pipe-free. I expect that building a rule to handle both cases will be an elusive goal. In the meantime, I think it would be prudent to comment whatever bit out.
FYI, I forked the white-space code as I don't like some of the cuts it makes. There were some other issues I noticed with Formatter such as adding spaces around mdash and ndash where it was not appropriate. I think. Anyway, it's late here. Glad you like my user page; note the use of negative margins in the column layout. There are some cute tricks on some of the subpages, too. The Editnotices spook folks regularly (they change). Oh, skip the talkbacks, please (and your editnotice should say talk page, not userpage). Cheers, Jack Merridew 15:37, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello, I've seen your name on the project template and I permis myself to ask you help: I've just created a new portal Portal:Lyon and I would like to create the templates for the subways, trams, bus. They already exist on the french wikipedia of Lyon metro for example. would you accept to help me ? Thank you Lulu97417 ( talk) 16:41, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I didn't notice that posting on that page where we had our discussion would stop the bot from working. I would have written here otherwise. Sorry. Debresser ( talk) 19:09, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Your bot is creating a lot of work for me in Category:Articles with broken citations. Because of the "}}" brackets it fixes in citation templates like Cite web. Debresser ( talk) 20:45, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
{{cite web|url=www.example.com
as a citation, in my opinion. The cite web template requires a title parameter, and having the template not ended properly seems counterproductive. Anyway, there shouldn't be many more of those because I went through the list of articles with that error and bot-fixed those which could be. –
Drilnoth (
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Thanks for the updates to the article. I just have one more request: I'd like to see a sentence added to the lead that summarizes the 'Characters' section (per WP:LEAD). This will make it plain that Nameless One leads a party (rather than this being a single character game). Thank you.— RJH ( talk) 20:54, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Looking good! Three Supports and no Opposes! Clearly the best we've done so far. :) Don't know what the standard is for passing, but so far so good. BOZ ( talk) 00:20, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi Drilnoth, I support your closing, but would you mind harassing your admin colleagues a bit and try to find someone to close it completely. An outcome of no-consensus is mighty obvious (and pretty much everyone in the discussion agrees), but getting someone to do so would be nice. Hobit ( talk) 01:46, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Have a look; I put some work into The Complete Book of Humanoids! :) BOZ ( talk) 02:20, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello - I am trying to figure out how to edit the title of the page Salman agah -- For some reason his page has a lower case "a" in his last name instead of upper case. I have tried to change this but can not see where to do so. Your instruction would be greatly appreciated! Thank you. ( Asbk3 ( talk) 04:39, 20 May 2009 (UTC))
The bot is creating DEFAULTSORT keys with inappropriate capitalization, see e.g. [4], [5]. There is no reason to use other capitalization than in the article title. — Emil J. 10:05, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Salavat has added box images to about 20 D&D VG articles? :) BOZ ( talk) 16:12, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey thanks for the barnstar, very much appreciated. Salavat ( talk) 16:45, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Your bot is adding uppercased article names to articles and I was wondering why. :P For example, an article named "District of Columbia and United States Territories Quarter Program" had its title added to a DEFAULTSORT as "District Of Columbia And United States Territories Quarter Program" (note the uppercase "Of" and "And"). From what I've read at mediawiki.org this may be related to how entries are sorted within categories (uppercase letters come first it seems), but all things being equal, would this matter? =) — Locke Cole • t • c 19:46, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Don't begin sort keys with lower case letters, unless you want to create a separate sublist (the ordering places lower case letters after all capital letters). To ensure that entries differing by letter case appear together, apply the convention that initial letters of words are capitalized in the sort key, but other letters are lower case. For example, use "Dubois" in sort keys rather than "DuBois".
Hi. Three days ago, you tagged four maps (that I created and uploaded) as lacking a copyright licence tag. I've only just seen that. If you want the link, it's this one and three similar ones. I've put in a tag, hoping that it's the right one. I'd like to express concern, though, on the procedure. From what I understand, if I hadn't been around, those images would have been deleted four days from now, despite the fact that, when I created them, I explicitly included the following on their pages: "Own work, adapted from Wikipedia blank world map." I may not have put in the proper tag at the time, but surely their copyright status was evident. It couldn't have not been evident; the maps were clearly adapted from the Wikipedia blank map, and I specified that they were my own work. Would they really have been deleted despite this? That's quite simply absurd. Would it not have been possible for you to put the correct tag in yourself, if it needed to be done, rather than seek the deletion of images whose legitimate copyright status was evident and explicitly indicated? I realise you work hard for the sake of this encyclopedia, but your mistake in this case would have harmed the encyclopedia (very slightly). Would it be possible to amend the procedure to avoid the pointless and counter-productive deletion of images whose copyright status is actually indicated, albeit in written form rather than through a "tag"? Thank you in advance. Aridd ( talk) 08:25, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey Drilnoth. While I was looking over JagRoBot's edits, I saw that the bot frequently edited articles that had been previously cleaned by DrilBot, removing <br> in places where DrilBot had left it in. Examples: [7] [8] [9] [10]. Did you mean to leave those functions out of DrilBot's functionality? All the best, – Quadell ( talk) 21:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Delivered by SoxBot ( talk) at 03:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi. Just noticed this change to GWR 3300 Class. The issue is with the added defaultsort parameters, which have used "Gwr" instead of "GWR". I haven't corrected this yet, so that you can see the effect in Category:4-4-0 locomotives. I was surprised by this error, since I would have expected the bot to use the page name, where it clearly hasn't here.
In fact, I'm not sure that defaultsort is needed here at all, since the default sort order is simply the unchanged article name. See GWR 4100 Class and you'll see that the parameters work fine without resorting to defaultsort.
Will watch this page until I reckon our conversation is complete, unless the level of activity on your talk page threatens to swamp my watchlist!
EdJogg ( talk) 09:34, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Well, it speaks for itself:
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MrStalker (
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Sorry but I closed Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Dungeons & Dragons as not a WP:FPORT at this time. After two months at WP:FPOC there were no supports and still some unaddressed issues. Take some time to improve it further and address those points, and then try to resubmit at a later point in time. Let me know if you'd like help with something in particular. Also, the stuff by RichardF is pretty excellent to model off of, as well. Cirt ( talk) 07:16, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
I just want to commend you and say "thanks" for your prompt, informative, courteous, and downright professional handling of the issue at User talk:DrilBot#Moving location of lifetime template. I am posting here so I don't stop the bot again. I really, truly appreciate it. – BLACK FALCON ( TALK) 21:22, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
In this edit, the wondrous DrilBot changed:
Note the last two letters of "EvolutiOn". It looks like some code thought "I am going to change 'on' to 'On' everywhere". BTW an editor fixed the above by changing both back to "on" which I realize from the above discussion is not correct. Johnuniq ( talk) 11:18, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the prot. The issue was I was not sure if one was going to come up anytime soon (and the fact that I had removed the section in the first place), so I didn't prot. - Jeremy ( v^_^v Cardmaker) 18:25, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Your bot has added some Defaultsort tags to several radio and TV station pages. For example, with TV station WPSU-TV it added {{DEFAULTSORT:Wpsu-Tv}}. What exactly are these used for and why are most of them in lower case letters when call signs are all capital letters? - NeutralHomer • Talk • 20:21, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi Drilnoth, I'll sort out the reviews and interview for you tommorow. I'll probably scan them in and upload them to scribd (since AFAICT there is no copyright holder anymore). Thanks for your interest, Marasmusine ( talk) 16:51, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
I wussed out and just added the scans to flickr instead (Scribd requires messing about with PDFs)
You'll prolly need to click on "all sizes" to read the text. I've included an appropriate citation tag in the notes. Marasmusine ( talk) 11:22, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey man, good work on Neverwinter Nights 2: Mysteries of Westgate; were you planning on going solo with that? :) Check out my latest comments on the WikiProject talk page - looks like you signed off just as I was finishing! And I mean what I said about about Pool of Radiance! BOZ ( talk) 03:38, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Please see and comment here. -- mav ( talk)
Who knows? We may actually get it below 16K! Long way to go, though. Thanks for all you do around here! – Quadell ( talk) 19:23, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Add needs-photo to AssessorTags per request. – Drilnoth ( T • C • L) 02:53, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
The bot is changing the wording of the Duke of Wellington's Regiment (West Riding) article in the defaultsort to DEFAULTSORT:Duke Of Wellington'S Regiment (West Riding) I know the convention is to capitalise the first letters of words but in this case the capitalisation of 'of' to 'Of' and capitalising the 's' after the apostrophe in 'Wellington's' is incorrect. Can you do anything to correct that? Its getting boring having to correct the title manually everytime the bot is run! ;) Richard Harvey ( talk) 23:06, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Howdy. Quick note to mention DrilBot stumbled a little in fixing a selflink, here. I think the issue was the opening words were selflinked plus bolded already, and DrilBot de-linked leaving stray punctuation marks. I'll leave it in your capable hands. (No need to reply, though I'll see any reply here if need be.) – Whitehorse1 03:29, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm worried about this couple of reports in my talk page about Locobot bad edits. I think that those those bot errors were done by my customize AWB configuration or if they are an AWB bug, but I have stopped all my bot operations until I know the cause of this problem. (I have reported this to you because our bots do the same kind of edits) Locos ~ epraix Beaste~ praix 16:53, 31 May 2009 (UTC) PS: Maybe I have to check my recent bot edits (about 8000)
Delivered by SoxBot ( talk) at 22:20, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the response about a new version of AWB only de-linking if there are multiple links; that would seem to resolve that part of it.
As for bolding the current page in navigation, this is the right thing in most contexts (e.g. taxoboxes and navboxes). I couldn't find a policy on alphabetical navigation as in List of Canadian plants by family but I was operating under the assumption that the same style would be desirable. Self-links are bad when they show up as links (for example, when an article links to itself via a redirect), but when they show up as bolded non-links they are a pretty standard thing (at least when the link comes in via a template).
As for restarting the bot, I'll leave that to you (and/or the bot approval powers that be); I don't know whether these kinds of things are happening on a few pages or a lot. Kingdon ( talk) 13:46, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Royal broil 09:50, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
G7? From CSD? After a deletion discussion? (Not that it would qualify as G7 even if it hadn't been under discussion). I can't find the words. Yomangani talk 12:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Greetings. If the original uploader requests that the image be deleted, then it can be deleted by any admin speedily, without waiting for any other processes to expire. G7 does not say "unless it's listed at FFD". I would have made the same call. Yomangani, if you truly thought that Drilnoth's deletion was against policy, there are proper channels for this; you've said you don't intend to use them, so I'm not sure what more you intend to accomplish by making subtly insulting comments on his talk page. – Quadell ( talk) 14:40, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
I have signed the forms in triplicate and sent them in. Presumably they will now be to be sent back, queried, lost, found, subjected to public enquiry, lost again, and finally buried in soft peat for three months and recycled as firelighters. At least they are not locked in a filing cabinet in a cellar, stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying "Beware of the Leopard". Have a nice day! -- Testing times ( talk) 16:39, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Hey. It seems to miss if the template is formatted in the {{non-free reduced|1=May 19 2009}} with the "1=" instead of simply the time and date (as a lot of these images seem to be tagged). Mfield ( Oi!) 03:26, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
We should better wait for the next database scan. Locos ~ epraix Beaste~ praix 02:14, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Hello, I recorded an album (Alam) of some of my lute musics and it was edited in last may by the berliner label Humming Conch. It would be great that you add my name as an actual composer for the lute. Here are the links to the label and to my myspace lute music: http://www.hummingconch.net/releases/conch-003-christian-vasseur-alam http://www.myspace.com/chrisaturnevass
Best regards.
Christian Vasseur —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.80.254.163 ( talk) 18:56, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi there! Might want to check the bot... I don't think edits like these are necessary. 1) It will already sort in the categories under "Drosera binata", 2) binata is lowercase as it's a species epithet, and 3) some categories already have specialized category sorts, such as [[Category:Drosera|binata]] (notice the lowercase sort, since we at WP:PLANTS prefer lowercase species epithet sorts in the taxonomic categories). Hope this was just a one-time error and wasn't systematic. Cheers, Rkitko ( talk) 01:52, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
The original message has a valid point. For binomial names, the species epithet is always lowercase, and there is no existing problem with differently-cased entries not appearing together. But when the bot adds DEFAULTSORTs to such articles, we inevitably end up with a situation like the current Category:Chromis where, as of right now, the order of entries is is "C. abyssus", "C. brevirostris", "C.amboinensis", ... — because the first two have had a defaultsort added, but the next one has not. Since new species articles are added all the time, and there is no established tradition for giving them capitalized defaultsorts, the net effect of the bot is to make all the biological genus categories appear disorganized for the indefinite future.
In my opinion, trying to fix the alphabetization problem by adding defaultsorts to every article with more than one word in the title is the wrong approach. Defaultsort is a fine tool for things like sorting biography articles by last name, and perhaps also for removing diacritics, since those tasks may be hard to reliably mechanize completely. But if it's desired for category sorting to be case-insensitive (or for "a" to sort immediately after "A", instead of somewhere after "Z"), like what most readers expect, then that change should be added uniformly to the MediaWiki software (as you also write in the FAQ). I would suggest that you hold off on the controversial "capitalize each word" part of the bot, until the matter has been discussed somewhere central (eg. WP:VP) and there is a clear consensus to incorporate the new style as a prominent and unambiguous guideline at WP:DEFAULTSORT, that all editors are expected to follow. Thanks, Hqb ( talk) 14:23, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi, you weighed in on the "display time since last edit on article" discussion at the Village pump. I have now started a straw poll on the subject at WP:Village pump (proposals)#Straw poll. Your opinion would be appreciated. -- Cybercobra ( talk) 04:51, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Can you explain this edit? There seems to be no point adding a DEFAULTSORT with a parameter identical to the page name, which is its default collation key. Ian Spackman ( talk) 14:33, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
This diff shows a problem with named references. Rettetast ( talk) 14:48, 9 June 2009 (UTC) one more. Rettetast ( talk) 14:50, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
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Hey DrilNoth. "Turmoil in the Featured and Valued picture processes" was discussed at the Signpost. Should this be mentioned on the WP:WPIM message board? – Quadell ( talk) 16:11, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
This edit broke one of the links at the very end of the article. This is clearly a bug in the script, since it shouldn't be messing with link targets. No doubt this is a known issue (the edit was in March), but I'm letting you know just in case it isn't. Sławomir Biały ( talk) 01:44, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi Drilnorth,
You have queried the validity of photograph Image:Doug Macleod Promo Photo.jpg, and I would like to resolve the issue quickly.
I could obtain alternative images to use in the article about this artist, but believe that this is the most appropriate image to use and uploaded it on the principle that it was freely available in the press kit from the artist's own web site.
Ideally, I would like to retain this information with suitable justifications if possible, but firstly would you confirm that a press kit image can be defined as free-issue? This doesn't seem to be covered by the guidelines.
Thanks for your help,
Versificator ( talk) 06:23, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
So many users in that page keep on putting false claims about Regine Velasquez' achievements and talent, to the point that they make up fake 'achievements' about her so-called 'reign'. Velasquez is not famous all over the world, she has not sold one million records all over Asia. They keep sensationalizing her page by writing over hyped and false claims such as having a 'palatial house', albums selling over 10X platinum, that Regine rejected the Miss Saigon role, and so much more. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.104.22.195 ( talk) 22:47, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
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Hey Drilnoth. As you may know, I've got a toolserver account and am now tinkering with AWB code as well (though Reedy has to come along and improve the code I write before pushing it live). Anyhow, I thought I might try to combine the two, and create collaborative lists of find/replaces (basic level). IIRC this doesn't quite apply to you because you override the default interface and write them directly, but I thought you might be able to offer some advice. Here's the plan:
What would the advantages be? Better regexes, presumably, also, I find that I write regexes for the CW error I'm working on. Meanwhile, I could be fixing the page for other things as well. I suppose it ends up not too dis-similar from RegexTypoFix. Sorry to have taken up some much space on your userpage, I was sort of working it out as I went along! - Jarry1250 ( t, c) 12:47, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Great to see you're volunteering for that - though I have little weight attached to my name in Signpost circles for good reason - my sole own personal involvement is currently 15 minutes a week, writing up a proper "bots approved this week" section for the technology report. I had been adding a sentence giving ideas of bots in discussion (much less complete than your own, admittedly). If you're going to include those in your report every week (great, please do!), then I'll put in a crosslink ("A number of other bots are currently in discussion; you can read more about them in the Discussion report."), shall I? You might like to make it reciprocal, whatever fits really. Cheers, - Jarry1250 ( t, c) 16:33, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Hey there Drilnoth,
I'd like to get Chris' image sanctioned. He's pretty clear about being willing to let it be used on wikipedia. I can have him confirm via email or post a comment somewhere or something else.
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He's got a blog at the domain squeedlyspooch.com. Checking the WHOIS registry at whois.joker.com for that domain gives me this: $ whois -h whois.joker.com squeedlyspooch.com | head -2 domain: squeedlyspooch.com owner: Chris Toshok Further, squeedlyspooch.com resolves to 199.181.107.182: $ host squeedlyspooch.com squeedlyspooch.com has address 199.181.107.182 squeedlyspooch.com mail is handled by 10 still.hungry.com. the address 199.181.107.182 is part of the 199.181.107.0/24 subnet, which was registered by Toshok in 1994: $ whois -h whois.arin.net 199.181.107.182 OrgName: The Hungry Programmers OrgID: THEHUN-3 Address: CENSORED BY CJ City: CENSORED BY CJ StateProv: CENSORED BY CJ PostalCode: CENSORED BY CJ Country: CENSORED BY CJ NetRange: 199.181.107.0 - 199.181.107.255 CIDR: 199.181.107.0/24 NetName: HUNGRY-COM NetHandle: NET-199-181-107-0-1 Parent: NET-199-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Assignment NameServer: AGONY.HUNGRY.COM NameServer: NS.ISP.NET Comment: RegDate: 1994-07-26 Updated: 1998-04-22 RTechHandle: CT56-ARIN RTechName: Toshok, Chris RTechPhone: CENSORED BY CJ RTechEmail: CENSORED BY CJ |
If you feel that this sufficiently links Chris Toshok to the domain and address space above, I'll get confirmation via the email address listed in the ARIN WHOIS registry. If you have a preferred means of verifying that the conversation listed on the image page was indeed authentic and that he did indeed mean to release it into the public domain, I would be happy to do so in your preferred way.
Cheers,
C.J. Cjcollier ( talk) 23:21, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
No problem. I'm getting on it. I asked him yesterday to send me an email from the same address he uses for his ARIN POC. I couldn't find a PGP key for him, though, so you can't be certain it's him if I ever get an email confirmation. I'll read through the requesting doc you pasted above. Thanks.
C.J.
Cjcollier (
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Hey Drilnoth, I recently deleted File:Hazrat Ali, Afghan politician.jpg incorrectly because I thought it was db-author, and the uploader requested that I restore it. I tried to restore it, but it seems that all that was restored wa sthe file description—the file itself is gone. Do you know how to restore it fully? rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 18:24, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
I hadn't caught that Hekerui had accidentally switched the dates; thanks for noticing and fixing that. 67.175.176.178 ( talk) 03:40, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
So, your bot did it too, it has also happened to me, it seems something is broken with the AWB, did you already report it? Locos epraix ~ Beastepraix 17:28, 17 June 2009 (UTC) rev4477
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Drilnoth (
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L) 14:32, 18 June 2009 (UTC)See Wikipedia talk: AutoEd. It seems to be moderately serious for non-Firefox users. Plastikspork ( talk) 14:56, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Looks good. Thanks for the quick fix. When you have a chance, it would be great if you could have a look at the discussion about 'unicodify.js'. I was able to merge CharlotteWeb's suggested features, fixed a couple minor bugs, and regrouped things to try to improve the speed. I should really look into the admin thing so I can commit changes myself. My only worry is that it will require more time than I have to spend. Although I don't believe there is any strict time requirement for admins. Thanks again. Plastikspork ( talk) 15:57, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Thank you again, I accept the nomination. Plastikspork ( talk) 21:18, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Sorry about being less than helpful at first -- I was tired and cranky (as opposed to tired and emotional, in which state I have not yet had the good fortune to edit :-). -- SarekOfVulcan ( talk) 03:00, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Moved to bottom of page at #Sprite can image. – Drilnoth ( T • C • L) 02:31, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi Drilnoth, you have added lefteditlinks.js as a gadget. You have not discussed this addition following the long established process and as prominently requested on MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition and on Wikipedia:Gadget. It is important to have a discussion and code evaluation before putting gadgets online as they represent an essential part of the Wikipedia user interface and we have to make sure that gadgets do not break the system under a wide variety of browsers, operating systems, and skins. Please see also the minimal requirements for gadgets on Wikipedia:Gadget#General criteria for Gadgets. I have reverted your addition for now, please suggest this gadget on Wikipedia:Gadget/proposals. Cacycle ( talk) 18:12, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
the photo should not be copyrighted as the photo should be public it appeared in a book dedicated to the hms penelopes crew and most of the families of the crew have copies of the photo its what made the ship famous and led to the book hms pepperpot the association has it and i sent it to ww2 cruisers they will be posting the photo later in the week the photo was taken in gibraltar between the 10th and 13th 1942 but i will contact mike of the association and ask where the photo came from and who owns it i have loads of photos of the ship they have been sent to me by many people for the tribute video i made i will come back with more info on the picture and thanks for contacting me --Ciaran Carson 01:06, 21 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carsie100 ( talk • contribs)
Image File:Galang.jpg was deleted without discussion or review. See: Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2009 June 8. Can we please restore it?-- Knulclunk ( talk) 02:29, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
I took the picture myself. How could there b permission involved?-- WildMIKE123 ( talk) 01:39, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
{{self|GFDL|cc-by-sa-3.0|migration=redundant}}
. This would mean that you, the copyright holder, allow the image to be used under two licenses: The
GFDL and the
Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike 3.0 license. There are many different licensing choices if you took the picture; this is just one of the most commonly used licenses.Delivered by SoxBot ( talk) at 11:23, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Dear Drilnoth,
I noticed that you deleated two photos today. They are Princefranzofbavaria.JPG and 51b2 1.JPG. I contacted the persons who created these photos, a photo atelier owner and family member of the subject, and BOTH of these men confirmed for me that the files have been released under a "free license" into the public domain. The creators also permit anyone to reuse the image for any reason, including commercial purposes. One of them even took the time from his busy schedule to correct the appropriate tags. Still you have deleted it. I really do not known why this have been done. I understand that IP has to be protected (I work on protecting intellectual property with the WTO), but from legal stand point the creators of the image and I have done everything we could to show that the photos have been released by to the public domain. Wikipedia was legally protected, as the images were in fact given to you by the creators!! I believe you were wrong to delete these and sadly in the end your actions only hurt this encyclopedia. Regards from London. Mariaflores1955 ( talk) 10:51, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the barnstar, I appreciate it. I had some time to kill today, so I figured I clear out the backlog which had been sitting there for a while. The task was one of the duties I claimed I'd work on at my RfA and I try to keep an eye on it. It goes quickly when you got a few films to watch on the side! Hopefully the backlog doesn't get too big again soon (although the size reduction category is quite large...). Thanks again! --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 ( talk • contrib) 02:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Oops, didn't I subst it? I certainly meant to. - Jarry1250 ( t, c, rfa) 20:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Delivered by SoxBot ( talk) at 02:41, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Actually they're not missing their copyright information, which is that I am the copyright holder and release them into the public domain. Does your bot need some fine-tuning, perhaps? Masalai ( talk) 06:21, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Is it o.k. now? -- Kebeta ( talk) 12:58, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I acknowledge your comments :
Thanks!
Hi! Thanks for adding references to (among others) S. J. Samartha's article from Lynn de Silva's article. I'm glad to finally see such an article on Wikipedia! Regards, Ldesilva (talk) 06:43, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
I have a problem coming up for two articles which I created earlier. V. E. Christopher and Andhra Evangelical Lutheran Church (AELC). Someone keeps intruding into AELC and removes V. E. Christopher as Bishop of AELC and inserts Busi Suneel Bhanu. Similarly in V. E. Christopher the name Busi Suneel Bhanu is added in succession list.
No references in support are given for these intrusions. Not even one. Hence I tried to revert the edits more than once. The intruder is probably a novice to Wikipedia. Kindly see what can be done.-- Pradeep ( talk) 17:50, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
I have added a fair use rationale. Is it okay? -- Paperoverman ( talk) 12:17, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Go ahead and delete it, if you like. I only uploaded it to replace the main image on WP:TRIPLE. Durova rode by on her hummingbird and switched it back. Oh well. -- Cryptic C62 · Talk 03:29, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
I put a source for the picture of the current Kristina Davis on General Hospital. Don't delete the picture. Jester66 ( talk) 03:47, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
So Mr. Admin, Wiki-knowledge test ;) Is there some guideline about adding/not-adding foreing language reviews to video games on the English Wiki? On WP:VG/S I can only find a checklist on whether some such sources are reliable, but the review box doesn't contain these magazines and I wonder whether such reviews should be added at all, since the authors reviewed a dubbed version - OTOH it's the exact same game just in another language and having more reviews doesn't hurt, right? However, would one then say "magazine X reviewed the Y-language version of game Z, and found ..." I haven't looked at reviews in detail, just wanted some clarity. I recently found two German reviews of Planescape: Torment from two game magazines on the net and was surprised, because the game is so old. I have saved the links somewhere. Also, what should one argue to get one of these sources approved for the checklist (I ask because I wonder why a magazine that is quite popular here isn't approved)? Hekerui ( talk) 03:32, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
<<snip>>Thank you for uploading File:P-61-1NO 42-5488 in colour.jpg. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the file. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page <<snip>>
I left a comment after your proposed rewording to the rescaled images being deleted at any time (instead of waiting a week). I agree with this idea, and mentioned my support. It looks like it is going to get buried with the other discussions currently going on, so maybe a straw poll needs to be started? --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 ( talk • contrib) 16:46, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of File:Lou Gehrig stamp.png. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. JGHowes talk 22:57, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi! I'm just checking to see if you plan to do the discussion report this week... if you do, there are several tips on the tipline about various discussions. Thanks! -- phoebe / ( talk to me) 06:36, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Drilnoth, I don't understand why you deleted File:Foxtrotfarscape.png. I would much prefer to have that image in the FoxTrot article than the other one, if we are indeed limited to only one. Powers T 13:34, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Your bot looks very useful, but would you please have the bot avoid doing that delinking in any "[year] in poetry" pages? I think it did so because you programmed it to remove multiple links to the same page, but year-in-poetry pages are different from regular articles, where readers who are reading through the entire article might get annoyed by the unnecessary repetition of links. In these pages, which are lists, almost no readers are going to want to search all over the page to find the link to an article on poetry from a particular nation -- they'll find it useful near where they're looking -- Indian poetry in English in the Indian subsection of the "Works published in English" section, as well as next to the name of an Indian poet in the "Deaths" or "Births" section (see 1920 in poetry for a good example of this -- a page that still only covers a small part of its subject, meaning that as the article expands it will be even harder to find wikilinks if they're limited to one per page). Since the year-in-poetry pages are constantly being expanded, sometimes the links are initially in lines next to each other -- something that will likely change as more listings are added in alphabetical order. So multiple links and section-title links are very useful, whether or not some style guideline has caught up with the practice or not. Could you avoid having the bot change these pages? I hope this isn't too confusing. -- Reconsideration ( talk) 15:09, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | ← | Archive 3 | Archive 4 | Archive 5 | Archive 6 | Archive 7 | → | Archive 10 |
Looks like this one is just about good, just a few bits in the plot summary that need sourcing. :) BOZ ( talk) 21:09, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
"I, the copyright holder". Enough said. Oc t ane [ improve me? 17.05.09 0348 (UTC)
Ahem! [1] ;) — Martin ( MSGJ · talk) 07:29, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Could you explain why your bot changed <references/> once to {{reflist}} and then in another edit changed {{reflist}} to <references/>? Also, I understand that the correct format is <references /> with a blank preceding the closing slash. One way and the other -- Michael Bednarek ( talk) 14:19, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
User:AlexNewArtBot/DnDSearchResult/archive1 - I added several pages to the watchlist from there. :) BOZ ( talk) 16:51, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Delivered by SoxBot ( talk) at 12:47, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Do you have an opinion on this statement? – Quadell ( talk) 15:10, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Biography#Templates Bio Portals need to be placed just above catagories. No "See also" needed. Your "drilbot" is placing them in the wrong location. I changed it at: Phillip Pearsall Carpenter Jrcrin001 ( talk) 08:23, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
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Wow, thanks! – Drilnoth ( T • C • L) 12:32, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
It would be preferable not to correct this by bot at all. The MOS statement is largely historic; the preference against it derives largely from autoformatting, which needs a clean format (April 15 or 15 April, no modified forms) to start from.
You will get a large number of false positives: book titles, quotes, and deliberate usages for emphasis or euphony.
My congratulations on your bot, however. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 15:33, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Any claim that MOS is long-standing consensus on anything should be taken with several grains of salt. In this case, the two forms were originally chosen because they were amenable to autoformatting, and this far-reaching discussion touches upon the matter. I see little consensus there or anywhere else. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:49, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Drilnoth, thanks! I'm going to make sure a discussion report comes out next week, so anything you do for that would help a lot: Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2009-05-25/Discussion report. Piecemeal contributions to "News and notes" and "In the news" are also always appreciated (and drafts for those are usually linked from the planning room), and if there's a special story you want to write, just let me know (or just write it). There are a lot of academic studies of Wikipedia that either don't get covered in much depth or slip through the Signpost altogether (and often don't even get listed on that academic studies page), so if that's something that interests you, you could pick a few recent studies to report on.-- ragesoss ( talk) 16:02, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
If you would like any help with a discussion report, just ask me. I thought about volunteering, but I'm not confident I could help week after week. But I've found I work well with you, so if you're involved in something for it and want a hand, or if you're not sure how to word something, give me an orange bar. :) – Quadell ( talk) 01:51, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, but I have to question the value of changing all the image links from "image" to "Image" when the former worked perfectly well...? Thanks— GRM ( talk) 21:59, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Drilbot made a mistake
here - moved the comment about persondata away from {{persondata}}
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Erasing the whole section was a mistake, I just was making my bot trial and only fixed the local list, but I already putted the section back its place. Cheers Locos ~ epraix Beaste~ praix 02:32, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I suspect there's an issue with one of the modules. See my post at;
I've not yet tried AutoEd; have not read the whole page yet. This is the next thing, right? Cheers, Jack Merridew 11:27, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Confirmed; I just did the complete install and went back to Saipan and it offered to break the link again. Cheers, Jack Merridew 11:40, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure how common the use of the pipe is in URLs. That the census.gov CMS is using it would indicate that it's a common enough sort of link. See, although a lot are pipe-free. I expect that building a rule to handle both cases will be an elusive goal. In the meantime, I think it would be prudent to comment whatever bit out.
FYI, I forked the white-space code as I don't like some of the cuts it makes. There were some other issues I noticed with Formatter such as adding spaces around mdash and ndash where it was not appropriate. I think. Anyway, it's late here. Glad you like my user page; note the use of negative margins in the column layout. There are some cute tricks on some of the subpages, too. The Editnotices spook folks regularly (they change). Oh, skip the talkbacks, please (and your editnotice should say talk page, not userpage). Cheers, Jack Merridew 15:37, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello, I've seen your name on the project template and I permis myself to ask you help: I've just created a new portal Portal:Lyon and I would like to create the templates for the subways, trams, bus. They already exist on the french wikipedia of Lyon metro for example. would you accept to help me ? Thank you Lulu97417 ( talk) 16:41, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I didn't notice that posting on that page where we had our discussion would stop the bot from working. I would have written here otherwise. Sorry. Debresser ( talk) 19:09, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Your bot is creating a lot of work for me in Category:Articles with broken citations. Because of the "}}" brackets it fixes in citation templates like Cite web. Debresser ( talk) 20:45, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
{{cite web|url=www.example.com
as a citation, in my opinion. The cite web template requires a title parameter, and having the template not ended properly seems counterproductive. Anyway, there shouldn't be many more of those because I went through the list of articles with that error and bot-fixed those which could be. –
Drilnoth (
T •
C •
L) 22:15, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the updates to the article. I just have one more request: I'd like to see a sentence added to the lead that summarizes the 'Characters' section (per WP:LEAD). This will make it plain that Nameless One leads a party (rather than this being a single character game). Thank you.— RJH ( talk) 20:54, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Looking good! Three Supports and no Opposes! Clearly the best we've done so far. :) Don't know what the standard is for passing, but so far so good. BOZ ( talk) 00:20, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi Drilnoth, I support your closing, but would you mind harassing your admin colleagues a bit and try to find someone to close it completely. An outcome of no-consensus is mighty obvious (and pretty much everyone in the discussion agrees), but getting someone to do so would be nice. Hobit ( talk) 01:46, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Have a look; I put some work into The Complete Book of Humanoids! :) BOZ ( talk) 02:20, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello - I am trying to figure out how to edit the title of the page Salman agah -- For some reason his page has a lower case "a" in his last name instead of upper case. I have tried to change this but can not see where to do so. Your instruction would be greatly appreciated! Thank you. ( Asbk3 ( talk) 04:39, 20 May 2009 (UTC))
The bot is creating DEFAULTSORT keys with inappropriate capitalization, see e.g. [4], [5]. There is no reason to use other capitalization than in the article title. — Emil J. 10:05, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Salavat has added box images to about 20 D&D VG articles? :) BOZ ( talk) 16:12, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey thanks for the barnstar, very much appreciated. Salavat ( talk) 16:45, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Your bot is adding uppercased article names to articles and I was wondering why. :P For example, an article named "District of Columbia and United States Territories Quarter Program" had its title added to a DEFAULTSORT as "District Of Columbia And United States Territories Quarter Program" (note the uppercase "Of" and "And"). From what I've read at mediawiki.org this may be related to how entries are sorted within categories (uppercase letters come first it seems), but all things being equal, would this matter? =) — Locke Cole • t • c 19:46, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Don't begin sort keys with lower case letters, unless you want to create a separate sublist (the ordering places lower case letters after all capital letters). To ensure that entries differing by letter case appear together, apply the convention that initial letters of words are capitalized in the sort key, but other letters are lower case. For example, use "Dubois" in sort keys rather than "DuBois".
Hi. Three days ago, you tagged four maps (that I created and uploaded) as lacking a copyright licence tag. I've only just seen that. If you want the link, it's this one and three similar ones. I've put in a tag, hoping that it's the right one. I'd like to express concern, though, on the procedure. From what I understand, if I hadn't been around, those images would have been deleted four days from now, despite the fact that, when I created them, I explicitly included the following on their pages: "Own work, adapted from Wikipedia blank world map." I may not have put in the proper tag at the time, but surely their copyright status was evident. It couldn't have not been evident; the maps were clearly adapted from the Wikipedia blank map, and I specified that they were my own work. Would they really have been deleted despite this? That's quite simply absurd. Would it not have been possible for you to put the correct tag in yourself, if it needed to be done, rather than seek the deletion of images whose legitimate copyright status was evident and explicitly indicated? I realise you work hard for the sake of this encyclopedia, but your mistake in this case would have harmed the encyclopedia (very slightly). Would it be possible to amend the procedure to avoid the pointless and counter-productive deletion of images whose copyright status is actually indicated, albeit in written form rather than through a "tag"? Thank you in advance. Aridd ( talk) 08:25, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey Drilnoth. While I was looking over JagRoBot's edits, I saw that the bot frequently edited articles that had been previously cleaned by DrilBot, removing <br> in places where DrilBot had left it in. Examples: [7] [8] [9] [10]. Did you mean to leave those functions out of DrilBot's functionality? All the best, – Quadell ( talk) 21:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Delivered by SoxBot ( talk) at 03:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi. Just noticed this change to GWR 3300 Class. The issue is with the added defaultsort parameters, which have used "Gwr" instead of "GWR". I haven't corrected this yet, so that you can see the effect in Category:4-4-0 locomotives. I was surprised by this error, since I would have expected the bot to use the page name, where it clearly hasn't here.
In fact, I'm not sure that defaultsort is needed here at all, since the default sort order is simply the unchanged article name. See GWR 4100 Class and you'll see that the parameters work fine without resorting to defaultsort.
Will watch this page until I reckon our conversation is complete, unless the level of activity on your talk page threatens to swamp my watchlist!
EdJogg ( talk) 09:34, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Well, it speaks for itself:
[11] --
MrStalker (
talk) 19:21, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Sorry but I closed Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Dungeons & Dragons as not a WP:FPORT at this time. After two months at WP:FPOC there were no supports and still some unaddressed issues. Take some time to improve it further and address those points, and then try to resubmit at a later point in time. Let me know if you'd like help with something in particular. Also, the stuff by RichardF is pretty excellent to model off of, as well. Cirt ( talk) 07:16, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
I just want to commend you and say "thanks" for your prompt, informative, courteous, and downright professional handling of the issue at User talk:DrilBot#Moving location of lifetime template. I am posting here so I don't stop the bot again. I really, truly appreciate it. – BLACK FALCON ( TALK) 21:22, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
In this edit, the wondrous DrilBot changed:
Note the last two letters of "EvolutiOn". It looks like some code thought "I am going to change 'on' to 'On' everywhere". BTW an editor fixed the above by changing both back to "on" which I realize from the above discussion is not correct. Johnuniq ( talk) 11:18, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the prot. The issue was I was not sure if one was going to come up anytime soon (and the fact that I had removed the section in the first place), so I didn't prot. - Jeremy ( v^_^v Cardmaker) 18:25, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Your bot has added some Defaultsort tags to several radio and TV station pages. For example, with TV station WPSU-TV it added {{DEFAULTSORT:Wpsu-Tv}}. What exactly are these used for and why are most of them in lower case letters when call signs are all capital letters? - NeutralHomer • Talk • 20:21, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi Drilnoth, I'll sort out the reviews and interview for you tommorow. I'll probably scan them in and upload them to scribd (since AFAICT there is no copyright holder anymore). Thanks for your interest, Marasmusine ( talk) 16:51, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
I wussed out and just added the scans to flickr instead (Scribd requires messing about with PDFs)
You'll prolly need to click on "all sizes" to read the text. I've included an appropriate citation tag in the notes. Marasmusine ( talk) 11:22, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey man, good work on Neverwinter Nights 2: Mysteries of Westgate; were you planning on going solo with that? :) Check out my latest comments on the WikiProject talk page - looks like you signed off just as I was finishing! And I mean what I said about about Pool of Radiance! BOZ ( talk) 03:38, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Please see and comment here. -- mav ( talk)
Who knows? We may actually get it below 16K! Long way to go, though. Thanks for all you do around here! – Quadell ( talk) 19:23, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Add needs-photo to AssessorTags per request. – Drilnoth ( T • C • L) 02:53, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
The bot is changing the wording of the Duke of Wellington's Regiment (West Riding) article in the defaultsort to DEFAULTSORT:Duke Of Wellington'S Regiment (West Riding) I know the convention is to capitalise the first letters of words but in this case the capitalisation of 'of' to 'Of' and capitalising the 's' after the apostrophe in 'Wellington's' is incorrect. Can you do anything to correct that? Its getting boring having to correct the title manually everytime the bot is run! ;) Richard Harvey ( talk) 23:06, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Howdy. Quick note to mention DrilBot stumbled a little in fixing a selflink, here. I think the issue was the opening words were selflinked plus bolded already, and DrilBot de-linked leaving stray punctuation marks. I'll leave it in your capable hands. (No need to reply, though I'll see any reply here if need be.) – Whitehorse1 03:29, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm worried about this couple of reports in my talk page about Locobot bad edits. I think that those those bot errors were done by my customize AWB configuration or if they are an AWB bug, but I have stopped all my bot operations until I know the cause of this problem. (I have reported this to you because our bots do the same kind of edits) Locos ~ epraix Beaste~ praix 16:53, 31 May 2009 (UTC) PS: Maybe I have to check my recent bot edits (about 8000)
Delivered by SoxBot ( talk) at 22:20, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the response about a new version of AWB only de-linking if there are multiple links; that would seem to resolve that part of it.
As for bolding the current page in navigation, this is the right thing in most contexts (e.g. taxoboxes and navboxes). I couldn't find a policy on alphabetical navigation as in List of Canadian plants by family but I was operating under the assumption that the same style would be desirable. Self-links are bad when they show up as links (for example, when an article links to itself via a redirect), but when they show up as bolded non-links they are a pretty standard thing (at least when the link comes in via a template).
As for restarting the bot, I'll leave that to you (and/or the bot approval powers that be); I don't know whether these kinds of things are happening on a few pages or a lot. Kingdon ( talk) 13:46, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Royal broil 09:50, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
G7? From CSD? After a deletion discussion? (Not that it would qualify as G7 even if it hadn't been under discussion). I can't find the words. Yomangani talk 12:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Greetings. If the original uploader requests that the image be deleted, then it can be deleted by any admin speedily, without waiting for any other processes to expire. G7 does not say "unless it's listed at FFD". I would have made the same call. Yomangani, if you truly thought that Drilnoth's deletion was against policy, there are proper channels for this; you've said you don't intend to use them, so I'm not sure what more you intend to accomplish by making subtly insulting comments on his talk page. – Quadell ( talk) 14:40, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
I have signed the forms in triplicate and sent them in. Presumably they will now be to be sent back, queried, lost, found, subjected to public enquiry, lost again, and finally buried in soft peat for three months and recycled as firelighters. At least they are not locked in a filing cabinet in a cellar, stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying "Beware of the Leopard". Have a nice day! -- Testing times ( talk) 16:39, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Hey. It seems to miss if the template is formatted in the {{non-free reduced|1=May 19 2009}} with the "1=" instead of simply the time and date (as a lot of these images seem to be tagged). Mfield ( Oi!) 03:26, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
We should better wait for the next database scan. Locos ~ epraix Beaste~ praix 02:14, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Hello, I recorded an album (Alam) of some of my lute musics and it was edited in last may by the berliner label Humming Conch. It would be great that you add my name as an actual composer for the lute. Here are the links to the label and to my myspace lute music: http://www.hummingconch.net/releases/conch-003-christian-vasseur-alam http://www.myspace.com/chrisaturnevass
Best regards.
Christian Vasseur —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.80.254.163 ( talk) 18:56, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi there! Might want to check the bot... I don't think edits like these are necessary. 1) It will already sort in the categories under "Drosera binata", 2) binata is lowercase as it's a species epithet, and 3) some categories already have specialized category sorts, such as [[Category:Drosera|binata]] (notice the lowercase sort, since we at WP:PLANTS prefer lowercase species epithet sorts in the taxonomic categories). Hope this was just a one-time error and wasn't systematic. Cheers, Rkitko ( talk) 01:52, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
The original message has a valid point. For binomial names, the species epithet is always lowercase, and there is no existing problem with differently-cased entries not appearing together. But when the bot adds DEFAULTSORTs to such articles, we inevitably end up with a situation like the current Category:Chromis where, as of right now, the order of entries is is "C. abyssus", "C. brevirostris", "C.amboinensis", ... — because the first two have had a defaultsort added, but the next one has not. Since new species articles are added all the time, and there is no established tradition for giving them capitalized defaultsorts, the net effect of the bot is to make all the biological genus categories appear disorganized for the indefinite future.
In my opinion, trying to fix the alphabetization problem by adding defaultsorts to every article with more than one word in the title is the wrong approach. Defaultsort is a fine tool for things like sorting biography articles by last name, and perhaps also for removing diacritics, since those tasks may be hard to reliably mechanize completely. But if it's desired for category sorting to be case-insensitive (or for "a" to sort immediately after "A", instead of somewhere after "Z"), like what most readers expect, then that change should be added uniformly to the MediaWiki software (as you also write in the FAQ). I would suggest that you hold off on the controversial "capitalize each word" part of the bot, until the matter has been discussed somewhere central (eg. WP:VP) and there is a clear consensus to incorporate the new style as a prominent and unambiguous guideline at WP:DEFAULTSORT, that all editors are expected to follow. Thanks, Hqb ( talk) 14:23, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi, you weighed in on the "display time since last edit on article" discussion at the Village pump. I have now started a straw poll on the subject at WP:Village pump (proposals)#Straw poll. Your opinion would be appreciated. -- Cybercobra ( talk) 04:51, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Can you explain this edit? There seems to be no point adding a DEFAULTSORT with a parameter identical to the page name, which is its default collation key. Ian Spackman ( talk) 14:33, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
This diff shows a problem with named references. Rettetast ( talk) 14:48, 9 June 2009 (UTC) one more. Rettetast ( talk) 14:50, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
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Hey DrilNoth. "Turmoil in the Featured and Valued picture processes" was discussed at the Signpost. Should this be mentioned on the WP:WPIM message board? – Quadell ( talk) 16:11, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
This edit broke one of the links at the very end of the article. This is clearly a bug in the script, since it shouldn't be messing with link targets. No doubt this is a known issue (the edit was in March), but I'm letting you know just in case it isn't. Sławomir Biały ( talk) 01:44, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi Drilnorth,
You have queried the validity of photograph Image:Doug Macleod Promo Photo.jpg, and I would like to resolve the issue quickly.
I could obtain alternative images to use in the article about this artist, but believe that this is the most appropriate image to use and uploaded it on the principle that it was freely available in the press kit from the artist's own web site.
Ideally, I would like to retain this information with suitable justifications if possible, but firstly would you confirm that a press kit image can be defined as free-issue? This doesn't seem to be covered by the guidelines.
Thanks for your help,
Versificator ( talk) 06:23, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
So many users in that page keep on putting false claims about Regine Velasquez' achievements and talent, to the point that they make up fake 'achievements' about her so-called 'reign'. Velasquez is not famous all over the world, she has not sold one million records all over Asia. They keep sensationalizing her page by writing over hyped and false claims such as having a 'palatial house', albums selling over 10X platinum, that Regine rejected the Miss Saigon role, and so much more. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.104.22.195 ( talk) 22:47, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
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Hey Drilnoth. As you may know, I've got a toolserver account and am now tinkering with AWB code as well (though Reedy has to come along and improve the code I write before pushing it live). Anyhow, I thought I might try to combine the two, and create collaborative lists of find/replaces (basic level). IIRC this doesn't quite apply to you because you override the default interface and write them directly, but I thought you might be able to offer some advice. Here's the plan:
What would the advantages be? Better regexes, presumably, also, I find that I write regexes for the CW error I'm working on. Meanwhile, I could be fixing the page for other things as well. I suppose it ends up not too dis-similar from RegexTypoFix. Sorry to have taken up some much space on your userpage, I was sort of working it out as I went along! - Jarry1250 ( t, c) 12:47, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Great to see you're volunteering for that - though I have little weight attached to my name in Signpost circles for good reason - my sole own personal involvement is currently 15 minutes a week, writing up a proper "bots approved this week" section for the technology report. I had been adding a sentence giving ideas of bots in discussion (much less complete than your own, admittedly). If you're going to include those in your report every week (great, please do!), then I'll put in a crosslink ("A number of other bots are currently in discussion; you can read more about them in the Discussion report."), shall I? You might like to make it reciprocal, whatever fits really. Cheers, - Jarry1250 ( t, c) 16:33, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Hey there Drilnoth,
I'd like to get Chris' image sanctioned. He's pretty clear about being willing to let it be used on wikipedia. I can have him confirm via email or post a comment somewhere or something else.
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He's got a blog at the domain squeedlyspooch.com. Checking the WHOIS registry at whois.joker.com for that domain gives me this: $ whois -h whois.joker.com squeedlyspooch.com | head -2 domain: squeedlyspooch.com owner: Chris Toshok Further, squeedlyspooch.com resolves to 199.181.107.182: $ host squeedlyspooch.com squeedlyspooch.com has address 199.181.107.182 squeedlyspooch.com mail is handled by 10 still.hungry.com. the address 199.181.107.182 is part of the 199.181.107.0/24 subnet, which was registered by Toshok in 1994: $ whois -h whois.arin.net 199.181.107.182 OrgName: The Hungry Programmers OrgID: THEHUN-3 Address: CENSORED BY CJ City: CENSORED BY CJ StateProv: CENSORED BY CJ PostalCode: CENSORED BY CJ Country: CENSORED BY CJ NetRange: 199.181.107.0 - 199.181.107.255 CIDR: 199.181.107.0/24 NetName: HUNGRY-COM NetHandle: NET-199-181-107-0-1 Parent: NET-199-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Assignment NameServer: AGONY.HUNGRY.COM NameServer: NS.ISP.NET Comment: RegDate: 1994-07-26 Updated: 1998-04-22 RTechHandle: CT56-ARIN RTechName: Toshok, Chris RTechPhone: CENSORED BY CJ RTechEmail: CENSORED BY CJ |
If you feel that this sufficiently links Chris Toshok to the domain and address space above, I'll get confirmation via the email address listed in the ARIN WHOIS registry. If you have a preferred means of verifying that the conversation listed on the image page was indeed authentic and that he did indeed mean to release it into the public domain, I would be happy to do so in your preferred way.
Cheers,
C.J. Cjcollier ( talk) 23:21, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
No problem. I'm getting on it. I asked him yesterday to send me an email from the same address he uses for his ARIN POC. I couldn't find a PGP key for him, though, so you can't be certain it's him if I ever get an email confirmation. I'll read through the requesting doc you pasted above. Thanks.
C.J.
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Hey Drilnoth, I recently deleted File:Hazrat Ali, Afghan politician.jpg incorrectly because I thought it was db-author, and the uploader requested that I restore it. I tried to restore it, but it seems that all that was restored wa sthe file description—the file itself is gone. Do you know how to restore it fully? rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 18:24, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
I hadn't caught that Hekerui had accidentally switched the dates; thanks for noticing and fixing that. 67.175.176.178 ( talk) 03:40, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
So, your bot did it too, it has also happened to me, it seems something is broken with the AWB, did you already report it? Locos epraix ~ Beastepraix 17:28, 17 June 2009 (UTC) rev4477
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L) 14:32, 18 June 2009 (UTC)See Wikipedia talk: AutoEd. It seems to be moderately serious for non-Firefox users. Plastikspork ( talk) 14:56, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Looks good. Thanks for the quick fix. When you have a chance, it would be great if you could have a look at the discussion about 'unicodify.js'. I was able to merge CharlotteWeb's suggested features, fixed a couple minor bugs, and regrouped things to try to improve the speed. I should really look into the admin thing so I can commit changes myself. My only worry is that it will require more time than I have to spend. Although I don't believe there is any strict time requirement for admins. Thanks again. Plastikspork ( talk) 15:57, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Thank you again, I accept the nomination. Plastikspork ( talk) 21:18, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Sorry about being less than helpful at first -- I was tired and cranky (as opposed to tired and emotional, in which state I have not yet had the good fortune to edit :-). -- SarekOfVulcan ( talk) 03:00, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Moved to bottom of page at #Sprite can image. – Drilnoth ( T • C • L) 02:31, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi Drilnoth, you have added lefteditlinks.js as a gadget. You have not discussed this addition following the long established process and as prominently requested on MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition and on Wikipedia:Gadget. It is important to have a discussion and code evaluation before putting gadgets online as they represent an essential part of the Wikipedia user interface and we have to make sure that gadgets do not break the system under a wide variety of browsers, operating systems, and skins. Please see also the minimal requirements for gadgets on Wikipedia:Gadget#General criteria for Gadgets. I have reverted your addition for now, please suggest this gadget on Wikipedia:Gadget/proposals. Cacycle ( talk) 18:12, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
the photo should not be copyrighted as the photo should be public it appeared in a book dedicated to the hms penelopes crew and most of the families of the crew have copies of the photo its what made the ship famous and led to the book hms pepperpot the association has it and i sent it to ww2 cruisers they will be posting the photo later in the week the photo was taken in gibraltar between the 10th and 13th 1942 but i will contact mike of the association and ask where the photo came from and who owns it i have loads of photos of the ship they have been sent to me by many people for the tribute video i made i will come back with more info on the picture and thanks for contacting me --Ciaran Carson 01:06, 21 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carsie100 ( talk • contribs)
Image File:Galang.jpg was deleted without discussion or review. See: Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2009 June 8. Can we please restore it?-- Knulclunk ( talk) 02:29, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
I took the picture myself. How could there b permission involved?-- WildMIKE123 ( talk) 01:39, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
{{self|GFDL|cc-by-sa-3.0|migration=redundant}}
. This would mean that you, the copyright holder, allow the image to be used under two licenses: The
GFDL and the
Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike 3.0 license. There are many different licensing choices if you took the picture; this is just one of the most commonly used licenses.Delivered by SoxBot ( talk) at 11:23, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Dear Drilnoth,
I noticed that you deleated two photos today. They are Princefranzofbavaria.JPG and 51b2 1.JPG. I contacted the persons who created these photos, a photo atelier owner and family member of the subject, and BOTH of these men confirmed for me that the files have been released under a "free license" into the public domain. The creators also permit anyone to reuse the image for any reason, including commercial purposes. One of them even took the time from his busy schedule to correct the appropriate tags. Still you have deleted it. I really do not known why this have been done. I understand that IP has to be protected (I work on protecting intellectual property with the WTO), but from legal stand point the creators of the image and I have done everything we could to show that the photos have been released by to the public domain. Wikipedia was legally protected, as the images were in fact given to you by the creators!! I believe you were wrong to delete these and sadly in the end your actions only hurt this encyclopedia. Regards from London. Mariaflores1955 ( talk) 10:51, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the barnstar, I appreciate it. I had some time to kill today, so I figured I clear out the backlog which had been sitting there for a while. The task was one of the duties I claimed I'd work on at my RfA and I try to keep an eye on it. It goes quickly when you got a few films to watch on the side! Hopefully the backlog doesn't get too big again soon (although the size reduction category is quite large...). Thanks again! --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 ( talk • contrib) 02:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Oops, didn't I subst it? I certainly meant to. - Jarry1250 ( t, c, rfa) 20:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Delivered by SoxBot ( talk) at 02:41, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Actually they're not missing their copyright information, which is that I am the copyright holder and release them into the public domain. Does your bot need some fine-tuning, perhaps? Masalai ( talk) 06:21, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Is it o.k. now? -- Kebeta ( talk) 12:58, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I acknowledge your comments :
Thanks!
Hi! Thanks for adding references to (among others) S. J. Samartha's article from Lynn de Silva's article. I'm glad to finally see such an article on Wikipedia! Regards, Ldesilva (talk) 06:43, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
I have a problem coming up for two articles which I created earlier. V. E. Christopher and Andhra Evangelical Lutheran Church (AELC). Someone keeps intruding into AELC and removes V. E. Christopher as Bishop of AELC and inserts Busi Suneel Bhanu. Similarly in V. E. Christopher the name Busi Suneel Bhanu is added in succession list.
No references in support are given for these intrusions. Not even one. Hence I tried to revert the edits more than once. The intruder is probably a novice to Wikipedia. Kindly see what can be done.-- Pradeep ( talk) 17:50, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
I have added a fair use rationale. Is it okay? -- Paperoverman ( talk) 12:17, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Go ahead and delete it, if you like. I only uploaded it to replace the main image on WP:TRIPLE. Durova rode by on her hummingbird and switched it back. Oh well. -- Cryptic C62 · Talk 03:29, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
I put a source for the picture of the current Kristina Davis on General Hospital. Don't delete the picture. Jester66 ( talk) 03:47, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
So Mr. Admin, Wiki-knowledge test ;) Is there some guideline about adding/not-adding foreing language reviews to video games on the English Wiki? On WP:VG/S I can only find a checklist on whether some such sources are reliable, but the review box doesn't contain these magazines and I wonder whether such reviews should be added at all, since the authors reviewed a dubbed version - OTOH it's the exact same game just in another language and having more reviews doesn't hurt, right? However, would one then say "magazine X reviewed the Y-language version of game Z, and found ..." I haven't looked at reviews in detail, just wanted some clarity. I recently found two German reviews of Planescape: Torment from two game magazines on the net and was surprised, because the game is so old. I have saved the links somewhere. Also, what should one argue to get one of these sources approved for the checklist (I ask because I wonder why a magazine that is quite popular here isn't approved)? Hekerui ( talk) 03:32, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
<<snip>>Thank you for uploading File:P-61-1NO 42-5488 in colour.jpg. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the file. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page <<snip>>
I left a comment after your proposed rewording to the rescaled images being deleted at any time (instead of waiting a week). I agree with this idea, and mentioned my support. It looks like it is going to get buried with the other discussions currently going on, so maybe a straw poll needs to be started? --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 ( talk • contrib) 16:46, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of File:Lou Gehrig stamp.png. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. JGHowes talk 22:57, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi! I'm just checking to see if you plan to do the discussion report this week... if you do, there are several tips on the tipline about various discussions. Thanks! -- phoebe / ( talk to me) 06:36, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Drilnoth, I don't understand why you deleted File:Foxtrotfarscape.png. I would much prefer to have that image in the FoxTrot article than the other one, if we are indeed limited to only one. Powers T 13:34, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Your bot looks very useful, but would you please have the bot avoid doing that delinking in any "[year] in poetry" pages? I think it did so because you programmed it to remove multiple links to the same page, but year-in-poetry pages are different from regular articles, where readers who are reading through the entire article might get annoyed by the unnecessary repetition of links. In these pages, which are lists, almost no readers are going to want to search all over the page to find the link to an article on poetry from a particular nation -- they'll find it useful near where they're looking -- Indian poetry in English in the Indian subsection of the "Works published in English" section, as well as next to the name of an Indian poet in the "Deaths" or "Births" section (see 1920 in poetry for a good example of this -- a page that still only covers a small part of its subject, meaning that as the article expands it will be even harder to find wikilinks if they're limited to one per page). Since the year-in-poetry pages are constantly being expanded, sometimes the links are initially in lines next to each other -- something that will likely change as more listings are added in alphabetical order. So multiple links and section-title links are very useful, whether or not some style guideline has caught up with the practice or not. Could you avoid having the bot change these pages? I hope this isn't too confusing. -- Reconsideration ( talk) 15:09, 28 June 2009 (UTC)